House of Commons Debate on French Words 1995

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  • House of Commons 5th June 1994 debate on the use of French Words on Debate. Also includes during the division an excellent example of the old way of making a point of order wearing a Top Hat.

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  • @niamhoconnor8986
    @niamhoconnor8986 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    BRING BACK THE HAT RULE!!!

    • @hellogoodbye177
      @hellogoodbye177 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      AND THE SPEAKERS WHIG!!

  • @hugehandelfan
    @hugehandelfan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    17:21 is the point of order in question

  • @fryersoncaptain
    @fryersoncaptain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    "if someone will go get the hat out, I'll hear him, otherwise I can't"

  • @RickJasonObrero11
    @RickJasonObrero11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    17:30 "Get the hat, I'll hear him. Otherwise, I can't."
    LOL

  • @Siasske
    @Siasske 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I love Betty Boothroyd so much, she was such an outstanding speaker! Also it feels good to see and hear her smiling and laughing rather than shouting for order like so many footages we have on TH-cam!

    • @zeryphex
      @zeryphex 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "so much footage" would be proper English grammar

  • @zerofox7347
    @zerofox7347 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    17:26 He tried to get away with holding papers over his head at first.😂

  • @xyman
    @xyman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    "Deux morceaux de pain avec quelque chose au millieu" instead of sandwich Lmao

  • @apothecurio
    @apothecurio ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This title reads exactly like a Monty Python skit.

  • @grantharmon3654
    @grantharmon3654 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    this video goes to show that even the business of government can't be taken to seriously

  • @unknownperson8541
    @unknownperson8541 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You have agree they're way cooler than current MP's and Speaker's 😎😎😎

    • @taterdemalion1
      @taterdemalion1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s hard to agree when you haven’t finished the sentence!!!

  • @JonathanSims-qf2oh
    @JonathanSims-qf2oh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesomeness in discourse!

  • @pickledegg1989
    @pickledegg1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    10:43 Wild Tony Blair appears.

  • @Javeec
    @Javeec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    "Deux morceaux de pain avec quelque chose au millieu" xD

  • @Pelicanus88
    @Pelicanus88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks for sharing, but the correct date is 5 July 1994.

  • @valeriolibratti9643
    @valeriolibratti9643 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As an italian I have much respect for the procedures and the history of the british parliament, we are a parliamentarian republic (even if the right is pushing for semi parliamentarism or even semi presidentialism for some unknown reasons) but our traditions and institutions are nothing compared to all of this

  • @pkpb8133
    @pkpb8133 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Mike Fabricant laughing at 10:41 is so wholesome

    • @timemechanic5055
      @timemechanic5055 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just goes to show that's he's not just a Boris Johnson tribute act.

  • @lukerigg
    @lukerigg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Is that Geoffrey Dickens MP on the Tory backbenches? Must have been one of his final appearances as he died in office in 1995.

    • @retropaganda8442
      @retropaganda8442 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's from 1994 actually. The date is wrong

  • @sociobiologist5141
    @sociobiologist5141 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Anthony Charles Lynton Blair, top right, 11:50?

    • @liamb8644
      @liamb8644 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Standing around like some backbencher, he was leader of the opposition at the time!

    • @RickyYTWLD
      @RickyYTWLD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@liamb8644 He wasn't actually. The date of this debate was 5th June 1994 as says in the description. He became leader of the opposition at the end of July :P

    • @StrongandStable17
      @StrongandStable17 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@liamb8644 John Smith was opposition leader at that time.

    • @liamb8644
      @liamb8644 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RickyYTWLD Thanks for that clarification, it makes much more sense now. But to the comment above me, I must be pedantic and correct this: John Smith had unfortunately died by this point and Labour was being led on an interim basis by Margaret Beckett.

    • @WilliamSmith-mx6ze
      @WilliamSmith-mx6ze ปีที่แล้ว

      He was a frontbencher at this time (Shadow Home Secretary) and candidate for the leadership. He wouldn't have been sitting in the side benches near the Speaker's chair. He would have been on the opposition front bench.

  • @KielKermel
    @KielKermel 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best Madam Speaker ❤❤❤❤

  • @GA-wq8xq
    @GA-wq8xq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great 10 minute bill, glad we had Conservative member of parliament

  • @Waldi2
    @Waldi2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    05:13 Is this man really putting his feets on the desk? Would this ever have been a appropiate behaviour?

    • @eliwhaley4804
      @eliwhaley4804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's normal.

    • @tsetienchu2482
      @tsetienchu2482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you can even lie down if you wish.

    • @matteomontagnese5116
      @matteomontagnese5116 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      MOST appropriate and most traditional. Members often were listening to debates covered and in a nearly recumbent position. Tables were left close to the front benches after the Post war reconstruction of the chambers specifically to allow front benchers to lay their legs on the table.

    • @t.b.g.504
      @t.b.g.504 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tsetienchu2482 as taken advantage of by Jacob Rees-Mogg!

  • @timtranslates
    @timtranslates ปีที่แล้ว +14

    ménage à trois - the phrase everyone thinks the French use, even though they don't.

    • @zeryphex
      @zeryphex 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ... but did the Norman-French / Anglo-Normans use that phrase?

    • @retropaganda8442
      @retropaganda8442 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh, we certainly use it

  • @Anakin313NZ
    @Anakin313NZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    29:08 Looking good Jeremy!

  • @cghklu
    @cghklu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When I hear French I tell myself that I God would have wanted French as a world language but that as the French cut off the king's head and chased religion out of the public space ... God punished the French to because of that and he put English instead

    • @minstead
      @minstead 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really interesting quote. Can you tell me where it's from?

  • @alishalileh
    @alishalileh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant

  • @user-qg9hf2ip2u
    @user-qg9hf2ip2u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The French is so bad they could be in the Canadian House of Commons.

  • @mizzyroro
    @mizzyroro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    5:14 wtf! Can he do that?

    • @eliwhaley4804
      @eliwhaley4804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yes

    • @indukulkarni347
      @indukulkarni347 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Brilliant interchange of the evolution of language such close countries. Historically so dependent on each other.cheers to the arguments.language has to be enriched to understand

  • @timtranslates
    @timtranslates ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "English is a mélangé"
    What?

    • @appleislander8536
      @appleislander8536 ปีที่แล้ว

      Case in point

    • @zeryphex
      @zeryphex 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      French for "mixed" ... which is true.
      I'm not sure if the politician used the word with correct tense grammar, and would it use English tense grammar or French tense grammar?
      No idea.

  • @JamesWilsonMD
    @JamesWilsonMD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So much class here compared to today!

  • @timemechanic5055
    @timemechanic5055 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the way Gilles Brandeth had to rifle through his notes because he'd obviously written them in crayon, and had the larger part of a bottle of cognac inside him = anyhow, Up Yours, DeLors!

  • @tjc89
    @tjc89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can anyone explain the reason for tbe top hat and the history?

    • @coljaxparliament1290
      @coljaxparliament1290  4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Traditionally to raise a point of order, during an division you had to wear an opera hat. the reasons for this has been lost in the mists of time - like many things that take place in Parliament - this was changed in 2001.

    • @tjc89
      @tjc89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coljaxparliament1290 source? Thanks

    • @eliwhaley4804
      @eliwhaley4804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think the particular reason was so that the speaker could see the m.p attempting to make the point of order throughout the commotion of a division. As you can see when a division happens you have mps going every which way which could blind the speaker from seeing the member is attempting a point of order.

    • @rin_etoware_2989
      @rin_etoware_2989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      another reason is that, when everyone still wore hats, you would typically remove it as a mark of respect to whoever you're talking to. thus, while MPs did usually wear top hats while in session, they'd remove it while speaking to the Speaker during a debate.
      but, since during a division there is no debate, you can keep your hat on. hence, MPs wearing a hat while addressing the Speaker came to mean that the MP is just speaking, not debating. then, when everyone stopped wearing hats, they presumably just bought two collapsible hats in to keep up the custom.

  • @HalianTheProtogen
    @HalianTheProtogen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    17:35 Nice throw.

  • @namelessnobody7611
    @namelessnobody7611 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant.

  • @Dennan
    @Dennan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why are people moving around all the time, why are they seated? it looks so messy when they dont sit down.

  • @KingCharles3
    @KingCharles3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    who is the MP with the hat?

    • @fde7
      @fde7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tony marlow

  • @ramonecotta518
    @ramonecotta518 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    " l Anglais ce n est jamais que du Français mal prononcé " dixit Georges Clemenceau

  • @nyracingfan
    @nyracingfan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A young Jeremy Corbyn!

  • @Ydk7775
    @Ydk7775 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    REVELATION 22:12-13

  • @sakyahsamad5702
    @sakyahsamad5702 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Comment thank you

  • @bluchu22
    @bluchu22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeremy corbyn got to be a teller!

  • @ramonecotta518
    @ramonecotta518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    mdrrrrrrrrrrr sacrés Rosbifs !

  • @NoName-hg6cc
    @NoName-hg6cc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brexit showed what should have been obvious: uk is a big Monty Python/Benny Hill show. 😂
    It was hidden behind a tin veil of seriousness