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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2017
- On today's special episode of #EverydayStruggle, Joe Budden, DJ Akademiks and Nadeska break down Cam'ron's legendary career and try and figure out his all-time rank in rap history.
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Cam would've been a superstar if social media back then was anything like it is now.
Jaison Waiste FACTS
Jaison Waiste indeed, FACTS! The man was an innovator, especially on the Fashion Tip
Jaison Waiste he is a star fuk u meen hes the shooter of shooters
Jaison Waiste off the thinkable like sad we could not have it like that
Jaison Waiste 110% agree.
Dipset was massive in London
ashley campbell they don't know the ting! Dipset was huge over here 🇬🇧
But didn't Dipset get fucced up out there?
ashley campbell
Y'all didn't know any better.
You're forgiven my son.
S.a.s
Johnny X you sound drunk dude
I still listen to Come home with me & Purple Haze and Killa Season..
Supa Piffy HighSnuka 40 Cal went off on that intro
That Nigga Ghost STILL
yelp bro to me those 3 albums was when Cam was in his prime to me my favorite is Purple Haze
I like all of Cam work even Crime Pays and The Program was a sleeper.
3 great albums back to back to back. Something not a lot of artists have done....
Hes not overrated and he's not underrated... He's camron lol
Hi It's me Hes overrated
Hi It's me basically
Underrated as in they overlook him
Purple Haze is a fucking classic fuck you mean Cam'ron is overrated
Ik cam was one of the few old new York dudes that had good production
Purple Haze is top 25 albums ever for me. I agree he has NEVER been overrated.
Thy Smithy I liked SDE and Come Home With Me
Dead or alive one of my sleeper favs
Thy Smithy facts
Camron is super underrated.nowhere near overrated.dumb ass question is this? lol
+oubre swishh your comment is overrated lol
Purple Haze was an absolute #Classic! S.D.E. was a Cult Classic...
Toney Elam FACTS
Cam is a legend.
The Dips where way cooler than G-Unit.
music wise g unit was better
Ronell Deadrick you look like akademiks
aristide murwanashyaka na everyone on the dips was fire, everyone!!
Ronell Deadrick dips was spittin crack n gunz the unit was jewlry and guns
Ronell Deadrick Yea Miami fuck wit dipset killa n jimmy way more than g unit movement remember them boys on Collins 04 to 09 some of the best years
People born in the 70's & 80s'- "Yo Cam is funny"
People born in the 90's- "I like the way he dresses"
People born in the 00's- "He does dance though"
People born in the 10's- "Does he have medicaid?"
Regardless of how you feel. The man used unfiltered Harlem culture and touched 4 generations of people. Dont take that lightly.
Cam'ron's impact can not be denied he is a legend
Canary burgundy I call it lemon red/yellow diamonds in my ear I call them 🍋 heads/lemon head end up dead ice like winneapeg/gem stones flinestones so you can say I'm friends with Fred...#🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 #ClassicCamVerse
Just because an artist is good doesn't mean they're top 5-10-20 worthy lmfao. This era thinks someone is either trash or the goat. It's ok to be in between
Facts
Diplomatic immunity was a classic album !!!!! I know it was a compilation but definitely a classic.
Frost Money The second one was a complication first one was all Dipset
Come home with me was a classic too
Cam'ron Created Swag 💯💯💯
Try again nigga. Ric Flair is the original pioneer of swag and he wasn't even a rapper
Donte Henderson facts
BXCKET HAT BOI RIC flairs persona was a made up playboi cam was swag ..in every way ..swag was created in Harlem by the cats selling in the 80's ..did y'all see paid in full that shit was real ..i grew up in that shit ..cam was a product of that and took it sky high
Donte Henderson nah kanye created swag
Neezus Brist lmao kanye created swag foh
Cam'ron purple haze album is classic.
Come home with me was a classic too.
Cam'ron freestyle on Rap City The Basement is STILL undefeated
No it's not
Cam inspired A$AP Rocky's ''pretty'' persona.
Str8 up
I never thought bout you right tho
Harlem.
Cam'ron a LEGEND !
Please tell these clowns he is def top 20 I wonder what they would say bout juelz and fab as far lyrics drake don't write his shit cam least u know he wrote his shit brought his own style niggas gon uzi better then cap next
Neezus Brist drake not a cornball??cornball
Isaiah Thurley who
WE AGREE
Cam is a legend. He's neither over or under rated. He's a rap legend.
Cam an the dipset Fam them Boyz had a good run nigga we was in the south with the Bandana's on the hat with the matching Mitchell & Ness jerseys lmaaaaao man early 2000,s
Mike Clark and the xxl t-shirts lol
Lorne Green facts bro facts
Camron said, I give em an earful... it's tearful... told my mother I hustle... she said be be careful! Cam is absolutely top 20 ever
Nope
The like before that was crazier, “yeah I get it cheaper, I cop bricks like sneakers, and if the cops come I just hit amnesia” 🔥
If social media was what it was NOW, back THEN...Cam would easily be a legend. No debate!!! He was certainly an innovator, especially on the Fashion side. The entire Dipset Movement was almost legendary, as far as how they handled business. Don't forget they had bars!
Joe is speaking facts!!!
Sorcery Shazmah if social media was around with 50 he would have sold 20 million copies. Nigga went diamond in that era
,😄😄😄😄😚😚😚😚😚😚
Cam is a legend.
Purple Haze is a classic.
"I get the boosters boosting, I get computers 'puting
Y'all get shot at; call me, I do the shooting."
That shit as a whole was HARD!!!
Word... People Never Mention the Line that Follows... Computers 'Puutin' 🤣
Why joe act like his opinion is fact??
biggerthanuchump he’s a virgo. virgos are know it alls
Purple haze is classic
Joe is so right about Dipset co signing Lil Wayne back in the early 2000’s. Wayne even took Dipset’s clothing style and beat style.
Cam’Ron is UNDERRATED because they overlook him. He makes classics
" And I'm Never Scared Ma Unless You Miss Your Period " - Cam
His verse on champions is iconic
cam'ron is underrated in my opinion! legendary
Most definitely and a legend aswell
@@abrahampalmer1153he's garbage 🗑
Camron is the equivalent of Allen Iverson in the rap game
Come Home With Me is a CLASSIC!
Great discussion! I have never sat down and listened to Cam'ron or Dipset, but everything mentioned in this segment made me want to check it out. Interesting exchange of ideas between the three of them is why I keep coming back to Everyday Struggle. Keep it up Complex!
Cam'ron is a legend! And is very underrated!
Indeed
Camron is trash
I fukked with that computers puting line.
Plug Industries man I thought that was thee hardest so on mtvraps when I was a kid.
Plug Industries Nobody cared about that line until 50 only reason why it's bought up Cam got too many styles to narrow it down to computers puting
what that mean
@@354allday disagree, I thought it was HARD as a whole when you look at the whole bar. Came right after he got shot up.
@@Cappadonna72 I'm not disagreeing wit the bar I'm talking about how ppl didn't have a problem wit til 50 tried to clown him. Get Em Girls came out before he got shot that was Purple Haze,Get Em Daddy remix was after he got shot
Underrated.. I remember debating Comfessions of Fire when N. O. R. E dropped... That's was a classic summer.
Tyrone
Both albums were WACK! Lol
Tyrone 98 was crazy damn near everybody who came out that yr was on Banned from Tv except DMX and Canibus
Just know without dipset no Max B without Max b no French
Robert Grullon exactly 💯💯💯💯💯💯.
Joe budded insight on music and its influence over time is something to be reckoned with .
Ya'll had to live in NY during the dipset era to know how influential and dope Cam was. Dipset owned NY during that era. Highly underrated.
Purple Haze is Classic
Come Home With Me is DEFINITELY a classic.
Dipolmats mixtape vol. 1-5, Dipolmats 2 albums, all cam solo albums, the boss of all bosses tapes with vado, his lastest 6 part ep. Cam is a legend top 20 easy how you have redman over him?
Casey Jones without Cam No Kanye Drake and southern mumble Type rap
I think he meant just lyrically with Redman but cam has added more to the game then him in my opinion
"Back in the day we was slave whips and chains its tradition all I got whips and chains."
Cam'ron is one of the greatest of all time
I'm hulk hogan, randy savage bob backlyn pa actin haha who they think they car jackin?
**Bob Backlund, Paul Atkins......
Hawk hawkin
Purple haze, SDE, classic
cam top 25 all time
Cam will leave Joe Budden holey moley
No it's " I'll leave you wholey wholey, they'll say wholey moley"
Cam did do that 'Neva scared' remix but jadakiss was on it . Then he did the bout it bout it remake with Master P. Then Bird Call with Weezy did put the southern artist over the top !
Underrated. And I'm not even gonna watch this shit lol
Cam'ron is the Patrick Ewing of hip hop. #Str8Legend
Know The Ledge GTFOH!!!!!!!
duron bryant tell me how he isn't. He's influenced the game. Plus he's put on a lot of rappers. Cam is Harlem, he's really able to bring that to the world.
Cam is a legend, tell me you niggas didn't wear pink tees when hey ma came out?
My Little Dicky Keeping it G, I didn't but I was fucking with the movement, HARD.
My Little Dicky fuck no
Everybody at my school was wearing pink tees and throwback jerseys after the Dipset blew up. Feeling old AF
My Little Dicky I rock eit Cam but didn't do the pink tees
Na trick was wearing pink polo shit in 97 down here in Miami. Cam made it a global look tho
Killa & dipset was a hella of Movement.. one of the best era's in Hip Hop... from 2000-2006...
Cam'ron is top 20 NY rappers but top 20 of all time nah top 40-50 maybe there's a lot of people you could name before that no disrepect to Cam
Capital Productions agree
Capital Productions clearly cam is your cousin lmao
Exactly what I said..
u smoking.. period! u caint name 20 of the best rappers and not name KILLA CAM.. foh
937dboy
1. Nas
2. 2 Pac
3. Biggie
4. Big L
5. Big Pun
6. Eminem
7. 50 Cent
8. Snoop Dogg
9. Dr. Dre
10. Ice Cube
11. Hov
12. Andre 3000
13. Eazy E
15. Method Man
16. Red Man
17. Jadakiss
18. Styles P
19. Beanie Sigel
20. Mos Def
He's kinda underrated
Free Max B
Facts
max out in a year
Before Eminem Cam was rhyming words nobody thought could be put together,,in layers,,,,underrated frfr!!
Come Home With Me, Purple Haze & Diplomatic Immunity all classics! fuck you mean overrated..? Cam is the reason why you see dudes wear pink.
Them man created mega and mayhem s.a.s
Cam is way better than Joe Budden that's for sure..
Duh nigga that's not an argument
IHateDannyK nah, and cam is probably my favorite rapper. Cam can't handle budden on bars
Vincent Laurence it ain't all about bars cam has it all he's better
KombatJunkeeTV rapping ain't about bars?
Vincent Laurence just having bars doesn't make you the better artist
Glad to see all these positive comments..and real comments..cam is ao different there will never be another cam..bars u gotta listen and catch em..nigga swag is crazy
Cam'ron is a Unicorn not Porzingus 🦄, One of my favorite rappers ever
Top 10 (personal taste)
1. Biggie
2. Nas
3. Kane
4. Scarface
5. Big Pun
6. Jay Z
7. Mos Def
8. Andre 3k
9. Eminem
10. Big L
Cam on a good day might be 35-40 on the all-time list, but he's easily top 3 most influential rappers out of Harlem. if Big L never died, he was gonna be the face of Harlem
infam0usP 😂lol what up P?!
Will Willis haha whaddup slime!
Cam in his prime was cold though. If you're judging his lyrical content after "Come Home with me" I think he loses a lot of points. Confessions was dope, SDE was dope. Come Home with me was kinda like the break point. At that point, he's putting his fam on(Juelz, Jim, Zeeky). Hip Hop heads could probably liken that to when EPMD introduced the Hit Squad proteges.
Killa is a legend man...nice with the wordplay although he did try that "I keep computers Puting" line...
Killa never aimed to be a top 10 MC. He one of the best to ever do it.
Cam is top 10.Hip hop culture.If you been around since the 90s and still relevant..Holla.
Indeed same with jadakiss aswell
Saw Dipset on a firetruck in Harlem hahaha. Good Times.
Lemme find out complex lurking on boxden and ktt for topics.
Cam is the ambassador of HARLEM. ...when Big L died he really took that torch and ran with it. Put soo many people on forget aboot itttt
agthaog1986 facts
Noooooooooooo u can't tie Dipset with G Unit..fuck outta here milkdud headass boi. DIPSET had niggas reppin birdgang, Santana, Jim, Writer in his prime, Araab Beats..nigga is delusional as fuck!
RDJetz Da Pilot G-unit was always 3rd behind D-Block and Dipset
JERU I Disagree, I Feel G-Unit was one... because they had a bigger impact because they followed up after 50's GRODT
G-unit all went platinum
It was Park West high school! I remember Cam out there exactly how Buddens described it.
That album 'come home with me' is a classic
how Budden leave Wu-Tang out of top NYC groups? RZA GZA Raekwon Ghostface > All of Dipset + G-Unit
Justin Gulati that group wasn't in joe Buddens era
Justin Gulati hell fucking no
IceCreamMan 79 He mentioned Rae and Ghost
Justin Gulati how he leave Krs One
Raekwon slapped joe buddens years ago,,, he know what it is....
Cam first 2 albums was the shit
Appreciate what you got before it's gone... #NoJoeNoShow
Can't believe I actually like this show so much it's my wake and bake....lmao
Totally disagree with Joe Budden on Cam'ron being responsible for saying it was cool to rock with Wayne. In the late 90s, Juvenile was the man to rock with because of that song "HA" and "Back That Ass Up". It was definitely getting crazy play up here at the time. Jay Z hopped on the "HA" (remix) and it exploded even more in NYC. Juvenile was actually on A LOT of east coast tracks specifically Roc A Fella (Juve was on Jay Z's album) and Ruff Ryders (specifically the 1st Double R complication album. Never Forget. Down Bottom. Down Bottom was a massive hit single).
Off the strength of Juvenile's single "HA", his collabos with Jay Z and Ruff Ryders Compilation feature, it got the East Coast in the late 90s to rock with Cash Money as a whole on major levels. One thing, I will never forget seeing in HS in NYC was folks buying Juve, BG, Big Tymers, Hot Boys, and Lil Wayne albums from 1998-2000. I remember when folks out here were screaming for Turk's album heavy! Even though Lil Wayne had the fan fare back then in his teen years, everyone on the low in the east coast loved Turks flow. So Joe is incorrect because folks were already rocking with Lil' Wayne and Cash Money well before this so-called Cam'ron "co-signed Wayne" claim. People out here in NYC were already rocking with "The Block is Hot" and the "Lights Out" albums. So "all praise due to Cam'ron" is incorrect. It's all praise due to Juvenile and how hot his singles were. We also saw an influx of down south MCs doing stuff with East Coast MCs because of the Juve HA record and Back That Ass Up record. Again, Jay Z and Juve (HA Remix/Snoopy Track); Prodigy and BG (YBE); Noreaga/Lil Wayne/Juve (were on Melvin Flynt Da Hustler album), were all features around the time Cash Money was popping across the country that was definitely between 1998-2000.
George Brobbey Big Facts bruh. I remember that Down Bottom with Drag-On and Juvie. And you can't forget the tour that happened too. I believe it was The Roc, Ruff Ryders, and Cash Money all on one stage. Or it could of been just CM/RR on the tour. Can't recall.
George Brobbey good point. there was or was supposed to be a Ruff Ryder's / Cash Money tour
There MOST definitely was a Ruff Ryders Cash Money Tour!!! That's why I don't understand what the HELL Joe Budden is talking about that Cam'ron gets all praises due for making Lil Wayne ok to listen to. Mind you I'm not even a Lil Wayne fan but I remember these things about Lil Wayne's early portions of his career.
It's beyond false. I lived through this era as a late teen and I remember friends going to this tour. Some kids born post 90s/early 2000s would probably take his comments to be true but it's terribly off. The sad thing is Budden is only two/three years older than me and even I remember these events LOLOL. Complex need to do better for real.
George Brobbey everything you said was valid. Okay so you know how there's that "old" c.o.t.c / c.o.f / s.d.e Cam, then you got the newer "Killa Cam" ...... the same could kinda be said with Lil Wayne the block is hot lights out, and "Weezy F Baby" Carter 1 and beyond ...... So it's kinda safe to say that Cam made it known that him & his camp fuck with Weezy & all his new shit .... that "Fireman " "Go DJ" Weezy was a different breed ....... overall both Cam'ron & Lil Wayne reinvented themselves for the new millennium era
facts! Again Joe only sounds intelligent to dumb nuccaz
Waaaaaaaaay underated Cam is that nigga fuck what any body says
Come home with me, SDE, Purple haze, and Killa season are all classics
i would love to see this convo about ludacris
Drake is NOT better than Black Thought. No fucking way.
JuKe Jones black thought is wack as fuck fuck the roots they r corny
Chuma Robinson you wack
Drake is just a pop star.. def not on my top 100
JuKe Jones yawl fail to realize they are taking everything into account. Albums sales, trends, hits and not just bars.
It depends on who you ask and what the mood is..... people don't just listen to hip hop to hear conscious rap... sometimes we wanna hear the melodious hits such as drakes
Killa Cam is definitely top 10 all time in rap hands down
nah lol but he is a legend Outkast 2pac nas biggie ice cube scarface Kendrick Eminem jay z Rakim Ghostface Raekwon
Dwayne Sharpe You exaggerating. I can name 30 artists better than Cam tbh, but he's up there. And he's top 10 for NY artists
Bmore24 t please stop wit this dumb kendrick bull shit
Chuma Robinson bro you ain't never lie kenny is cool but definitely overrated
All time ?? Nooooo....... He has never been in the top ten discussion , ever ! He may be in the top 15-20 in NY alone .
@3:21 I made the same face Joe made as soon as I heard the question, thats tuff to answer and I'm from NY
Roots appreciation episode do it do it !!
Killa Kam > Cam'ron
Budden is trippin, camron defo a superstar, im a 90s baby and i vividly remember my uncles nem fuccin heavy with cam and dipset, and im from holland.. salute cam, crazy ass nigga lol..
soundcloud.com/always-macaroni-time/bitches-everywhere-freestyle
SO SA what the fuck is Holland?
D-Repa slp
Wow, u a whole dummy. 😊
SO SA lmao okay where I'm from Sosa means something else so I thought you were from here
I swear I always doubted AK but when he was asked about Cam classic album and he said S.D.E
I realized he gets it. He deserves the platform he built and dominates. 👏👏👏 For Dj Ak
I always put CAM with kiss styles n sigel. he a legend 2 me
Joe Budden wants to say something that matters so bad but can't
Does anyone know the song where cam says "we at the skii slopes, with the weed smoke...with some white folks, we joke "you need coke?"
Dame never made it into song format, it was one of those Dipset takeover Hot 97 freestyles with JR Writer & Hell Rell. it's on TH-cam
harlemdiplo I can never find it, I remember that shit from when I was little but I'm been looking for a while and found nothing
Dame search for Funkmaster Flex Dipset 15 min freestyle .... I believe it's in there. "on the serious tip, that OG note, hit me up if you do, it's right here in the pea coat"
Killa Cam is that dude, lyrically speaking. He shouldn't be slept on, as far as that aspect is concerned. @Complex
Cam's classic album is "Killa Season" because it gives you that whole DipSet feel. Purple Haze is dope, but U don't get that feel.
cam'ron has always been underrated and overrated.
Joe made an amazing point when he spoke on Wayne's rise in the East due to Cam
I'll never forget going to Footlocker and everything in the window was pink.
lil uzi vert aka luzifer is overrated
Boolin Coolin but he's not. that new album is super hot fire
he sold his soul for you. i fucks wit conscious rap. not him and he gets named way too often. its my opinion and you cant change it
Boolin Coolin lu cif ert