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- On today's #EverydayStruggle, Maino joined Joe Budden and DJ Akademiks to talk about NYC hip-hop and whether or not 50 Cent did actually kill it back in the day.
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New York Radio killed NYC Hiphop smh
Tim Kruse yep
POINT BLANK PERIOD!
Yep. They never wanted to support their local artists
Tim Kruse Its really Corporations buying nyc radio stations and telling them what to play killed nyc hiphop. Cant break new artist from your state if your playing a billboard top 10 every hour. Cant create a new york mainstream spund if all you play on the radio is the hotest nyc artist at the time and then atl music. However thanks to the internet, nyc hiphop has no excuse any more for following the south style. But they are. Maybe from copying rhe south nyc can develop something new from it to call our own
Tim Kruse 💯
This video is so disrespectful towards 50. He has one of the most iconic albums ever in hip hop.
Lol they weren't disrespecting him
Complex fans are hipsters...
His first 2 albums were really good after those albums his music been trash. Yes he had hits but his run that's keeping him on top is shit he doing outside of music. 50 stopped ja on some sucka shit when ja had the radio on smash than the fan out of no where started rocking with all these dumb ass record coming out the south
Mikey Neptune for white people. Hip hop reached a plateau in 96/97 and it tailed off. 50 is trash and overrated.
j black what are you talking about
50 IS NY HIP HOP...FOH even thinking he killed it. The fans control what's popping and not popping.
BIG CHACHI although I would agree that 50 didnt kill it, I wouldn't necessarily say that fans always control what's popping and whats not. For example, many new age artists are big because people have come to accept what's big. You know how many people say music is trash, until it keeps getting played and then they start feeling it? (Including myself). Its one of those things that media like the radio stations have big power over
BIG CHACHI 50 and Jay z is NY hip hop
Meteor Bars yep Jay too
Rakim,Big L, Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane, Wu -tang, Big Pun, Biggie Smalls, Nas, Mobb Deep,Krs 1, The Lox and many other are New York hip hop over 50 cent. In the words of Jada Kiss dissing 50 "Your not the King of New York , You live in Connecticut'
Not "fans" but what sells more.
50 is a hip hop icon, wtf y'all talkin bout
Smokey Dopey they not debating that😂
yall aint watch the video lol they aint say the man was trash
It didnt help that the NY rappers coming ul during the mid 2000s abadoned the NY sound into a more southern sound
Smokey Dopey m.th-cam.com/video/8_gNqegbNqo/w-d-xo.html
MrKing8050 m.th-cam.com/video/8_gNqegbNqo/w-d-xo.html
50 was one of the only legit rappers of the 2000s.. He's a legend you can't say he killed any form of hip hop
Tyler Rodriguez He did by being petty beefing with anyone who stood next to Ja on sum Mean Girls shit
I hate 50 cent fans to a degree cause y'all treat him like he some type of saint or something stop ignoring the fact he got hot because he damn near died ppl act like he wasn't a rat and was trying to stop music out of ny get they shine
Bars&Hooks HipHopTV Facts his whole gimmick was being shot,they still bring that up til this day
JERU thats the dumbest shit ive heard in my life holy shit
Myro What u said was simple minded get shot and talk about it like it's accomplishment. I only quoted the sneak diss Jay took at 50 y'all respect the person who gets shot I respect the shooter
Bruhh 50 cent held it down for hip hop in his prime!
Jk Deez undisputed comment
For 2 years after 2005 he was done
Blaze Thomas 2007*
50 made music for clubs
😂
50 held it down for hip hop when it was at its lowest (2000’s) 50 is a legend
La Flamin Boomin #FuckjcoLe when I said 2000’s I meant that whole decade including the mid 2000s. Hip hop was getting dry after 97
Same for Lil Wayne and Kanye and TI
Mid 2000's was when it was at its lowest.
La Flamin Boomin #FuckjcoLe you trippin. If you compare how many great hip hop albums there were 2000-2005 to 2010-2015 you’d see that 2010s is a better era for hip hop. Old school rappers like Scarface and too short even call this era the second golden era
La Flamin Boomin #FuckjcoLe bruh how can you even argue that early mid 2000s wasn’t a bad era? Jay Z brought mafioso rap to an end, biggie was gone, Pac was gone, lollipop rappers were coming up, hip hop was losing its grittiness, most 90s rappers had lost their touch etc. late 2000’s was good that’s why 2010s are great. Hip hop got back on track this decade
Smh better stop disrespecting kanan like that
LordNBA Kenan of Kenan & Kel?
U mean Ghost as in Ghostface Killah? I love wu tang
LordNBA 50 cent is a bitch
LordNBA Right
Yall don't know who Kanan is?! ABC?! Whaaaat?!
50 a fucking legend. Don't throw dirt on 50 name. Only mf I know that could take 9 shots and still go on with his rap
Steeeve Maaadden If 1 album makes you a leged??? I guess...
Chuck Taylor name another person in the rap game that took 9 shots and lived, then later make music
Steeeve Maaadden Get Rich or Die Trying came out 14 years ago... People get shot all the time, he's lucky Dr Dre produced his first and only good album.
Chuck Taylor y'all called Nas a legend just from illmatic so why can't 50 be one from grodt????
dumbass, I guess his multiple classic mixtapes don't count
50 did that shit - Kanan Voice
Yellow Synth underrated comment
Guilty as fuck
50 Cent changed the game to a more melodic sound it was balanced he had that gangsta shit and melodic shit. He raised the bar on how to make a rap hit in the early 2000's I remember when his debut came out he was the biggest rapper in the world his debut was unlike anything else before it. I'd say he was one of the people who pushed hip hop even more into the mainstream. Everybody knows "In Da Club" even your grandparents did if they ever heard it at least once.
you mean bonethugs and the Memphis underground?
JO7FUL ? Bone Thugs and Harmony are legends too
JO7FUL ? But who had more success tho? 50 changed it and had the wave way better
The same shit he accused Ja for doing.
Hazel Ninja wrong! 50 ain't do shit but copy ja rule. Ja had the radio on mash doing the sing shit for years ja has waaay mor hits than fif. Fif copied ja doing the candy shop that shit was garbage the only dude from ny the perfected the melodic sound was Max b. The south stole Max b wave an is winning with it an is shitting on ny when they should be thanking ny because Max b formula has everyone using I don't care who u are or where u from if you song is on the radio today Max b influence is in. Max didn't blow up because he got locked up
He told AK don't say a fucking word
50 was the hottest thing ever at the time so they try to blame him 4 everything
He was beefing wit most of the NY artists
@@354allday and that brought the best out of ny rap
I’m from the South and 50 made a lot of NY rappers look wack to us. G unit and Dipset was was like the only NY hip hop being loved out here. Dudes like me who was hip hop nerds still rock with NY but even I looked at some different after 50. I miss that crazy NY sound. We need that
In the long run how you feel about now ? Cause being from the south I feel you. Imo I think 50 did kinda ruin it lol
That was a good take shawty!
50 definitely ruined it he broke up Dipset and ended Murda Ink ending all possible rivals to the South
How To Rob... And bruh did yall not forget that 50 beefed with every nigga in NY? Jada, Fat Joe(shout out to Terror Squad) Ja, Nas, Jay and any nigga that did a song or had any ties to Murder Inc. But at the same time its on the Dj too. If the only thing you play is Aftermath/Shady, then what do expect. Your Dj's were not supporting your own artists. And at the same time, the shift in culture and the real fact that NY lost it. Period.
pSmurf954 if John John tried to kill you wouldn't you go after every person that attach themselves to John John yes or no
TheBrob1983 not disagreeing with the actions, just saying they played a part. Tbh, I more than likely would have done the same shit. In the words of my brother, "#EBK Everybody Killah. If you on that bullshit, anybody can get it. Give a fuck about race, nationality, creed or background. Respect me how I respect you"...
if 50 Cent would have made a second Get Rich or Die Tryin he would have been labeled the greatest rapper right now facts
Shawn Young he did it was called “The Massacre”
Trence Kinney i think if his other albums after grodt and massacre like curtis nd bisd were more critically acclaimed then defo the goat
The Massacre is a great album
50 tried to make another GRODT and he couldnt......
POTD
50 is Hip-Hop!
Fuck New York hip hop is greater than this piece of shit it's just the spirits of our African ancestors speaking through us that we created this divine culture but it's inspired by living in hell which is the ghetto and trying to get out
metaphyzmusic your so cringe bro
as long as Nas is alive, my city can’t be dead
Nas is fuckin trash reall hip hop is migos nd future SIMPLE
SAUCEAHOLIC shut up lonzo
SAUCEAHOLIC lhfh
John He he needs to have them tunes bumpin for that to be true
or Az mobb deep premier jedi mind tricks and immortal technique
Budden bullies akademiks.
The Pro364 It makes me feel bad for him.
The Pro364
Pure comedy lol
Lmao, you can see the fear in akademiks eyes when Joe leans over that table!
Yeah, he did him wrong here.
Not maino tho
It’s funny how Joe picks and chooses who to get crazy with on here.
Prince Watlington Yea he was real careful on how he expressed himself
IG: Britt_l17 THats facts. But remember when Yachty came on? He picks and chooses who to get crazy with.
Bigdickgenius92 that’s super facts! I fuck wit him tho but I ain’t taking that
Maino is certified though
If maino wasn't there dj akademiks would of been shitting on NY hiphop on some 2pac shit.
Its good Maino was their. I dont think AK would be able to hold up with Joe on this topic. Maino did though
mayham pac from ny
So we just gonna ignore Nas and Jay-Z right before that, Jay-Z and Prodigy, Beanie (know it's Philly) and Jada, Roca-Fella dissing everybody in NY, to the point where half the time we didn't even know the person they were talking about (ex: Jayo Felony).....but we gonna blame 50. All them upcoming artist that roca-fella dissed never made it either.
Then they mention unity in the south.....Jeezy vs. Gucci, TI vs. Flip (and a bunch of others). Didn't Boosie literally (get charged with) kill the dude that he was beefing with? Jeezy vs. Ross (BMF issues). Point is, hip hop has always been competitive, 50 didn't do anything new, so you can't blame him for doing what everyone else did.
They don’t hear you though!
Mid 2000s The Crunk/Snap movement took over mainstream around the same 50 was beefing with JA, Fat Joe, D Block, Cam ect... Diddy was focusing on making the band and going pop, then in between all of that Wayne BLEW UP, then Nas made Hip Hop is Dead...Joe wasn't doing shit either....Battle rap was in its infancy...from then on Hot 97 was barely breaking or playing anymore new NYC acts until Nicki Minaj came along who got a co-sign from ironically a southern rapper in lil wayne. It wasn't until the digital mixtape/myspace/youtube era started with Wiz Khalifa when artist who been trying to get on labels said fuck it I can do it myself and go independent.
Couldn’t agree more.
French Blew him self up to in the streets
50 is the LAST of the gangster rap generation, one of the godfather's even the OGs say the same
Actually NY got too Devided and everything started sounding the same, most of the music was murder music. The people wanted a break from all of that, they wanted music that was fun and carefree and that's when the south swept them off their feet. The slogan is real and it goes for everything, together we stand and divided we fall.
The south was paying dj to play they shit they didn't get they shit popping like that every where because they shit was that hot or good yes they had the strip clubs on lock but getting international play they payed djs and the east coast didnt do shit like that that's why the game fucked up now
will walker, These rappers don't understand that collaboration brings them more money
AK's skinny fat hands always bother me lmao
Tiggie _ True
Tiggie _ I love you 😭😭😭 now thats going to bother me forever 😩😩😩
You’re gay.
(Laughs in West Coast)
@Agent Smith The Best rappers right now are from the west , the south are just mumbling & the east is dead
@Agent Smith Kendrick >>>>NY
@Agent Smith lol Meek mill ?? That nigga is straight up garbage lol foh he got bodied by an RnB singing cat lol , East coast been dead for a min .
@Agent Smith Nipsey hussle victory lap is better than anything that dropped outta the east this year & that's why the album is nominated for a Grammy .
@Agent Smith who's popping outta the east ?? Gay ass Rainbow boy Tekashi ??lol or Stripper Cardi B ??? Fr fool I don't who's producing the weakest rappers in the game ..the east or the south ?😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bobby shmurda couldve revived ny hip-hop with his NY inspired sound as a national hit but then got arrested. Young MA then came back with a banger but she dont have the image. Bobby was the perfect dude but messed it all
Up
There were a lot of artists that could have brought it back that were making noise and trying to bring it back 2007-2011, Tru Life, Uncle Murda, French, Max B, Stack bundles, Ra Diggs. Problem was all them dudes got locked or killed except for Uncle murda and French. French the only one that popped off and he sold out. In recent times like you said bobby was the one that should have brought it back. Tekashi kind of did but he's a fraud and is merely an image created by a collective of people.
Aaron Murrell Wasn’t really NY inspired, Hot Nigga sounded a lot like a Chicago Drill song
Nah bobby wanted to be chief keef of NY he was lowkey inspired by sosa
Dave East and Joey Badass revived it.
facts
It never died.. Just sat back and watched
Patrice barely, dave east has yet to release a national hit and joey barely scratched the surface with devastated
Flatbush Zombies been on the come up too.
Aaron Murrell it's not about hit records. It's about real hip hop.
The South tends to produce more party music New York rap is so dark and all about the streets
50 was so big nobody could top him single handedly, which is why he killed it. He was so nice he set the bar so high.
Joe Budden usually be super animated and cutting Ak off mid sentence. He's showing the utmost respect to Maino tho. Lmfao.
with reason lol
Dame he ain't crazy he know how Maino get down
And one other thing. Outkast Speakerboxxx/The love Below was out in 03/04 too. That was the biggest album in the world and solidified Atlanta as the new mecca in Hip Hop. They are the only hip hop group to this day to win Album of the Year at the Grammys. That killed NY hip hop. All eyes were on the A from that point forward.
It also encouraged a lot of rappers to sing mediocre.
NY rap died when lil Wayne, ludicris, T.I. came with that 🔥🔥🔥
Everyone talking about NY rap dying but west coast ain't had a heartbeat in years. Only artist is Game.
lifestraight You smoking dust. West coast been more relevant than the rest coast. The bay area, and Compton are always releasing hits. They're going through a renaissance at this moment.
Not really. I mean you got Game, Kendrick, and Schoolboy I'll give you that, but only the first two can rap. I don't really count Nipsey Hussle like that but if he making noise out there I guess I got to give him props.
It's all about the South now. Chicago had a wave from 2012-2015 2016 is debatable but besides the Drill wave and this new SoundCloud wave it's just all Trap
lifestraight Kendrick dead?
I love this discussion my guys
I really do!
I bleed hip hop
And everything you guys are saying are dead on!
I agree with all of your points and opinions.Soooo valid
I love it
This was one of the best debates in everyday struggle . RIP
50 didn’t kill New York rap, he built it up in his prime. And don’t forget g unit.
LMAO. 50 was literally at war against his own city in his prime. Especially anyone who dared side with Ja Rule.
Jay-Z and 50 Cent killed NYC RapJay-Z vs Nas/Mobb Deep was the first wave in the NYC beefing that ended the relevancy of the city. When Jay retired, 50 Cent vs everybody in NYC was the deathblow, which left the gate open for the South to takeover. Jay-Z started embracing the south rappers; T.I., Lil Wayne, Rick Ross. With Jay-Z running Def Jam, he shelved a lot of New York albums, which is why DMX, LL Cool J and even Budden dissed him
Fly King Jay never retired he dropped how many more albums after the g-unit murder inc beef
Well a lot of NY rappers on Def Jam got zero promo (Ghostface, Meth, LL Cool J, DMX, etc.) while Kingdom Come was getting all type of promo so that's one point. But I think the up and coming NY rappers could not surprass the cats who came before. Fab is cool, but he ain't Jay!!! Kiss keep it street and is lyrical, but Nas is next level!!! Busta and Fat Joe had hits thru the South run so NY wasn't not getting attention. The NY mixtape rapper of 2000 just didn't make DOPE records for the time. NY producers got neglected and NY DJs started playing all type of South rappers PERIOD!!!
TheBrob1983 Jay Z was retired during G-Unit's dominance(2004-2006). Jay held New York albums back at Def Jam while 50 was destroying the city with Rap Beef.
Honestly 50 Cent and Kanye killed NY hip hop, that sales competition really ended 50's run, while Kanye was taking in the glory
Fly King damn good point
This is why this is realest Hip Hop show on the tube. Excellent conversation
These episodes were so good man
Maino is right I’m from the south but my dad is from NY spent a lot of time in NY growing up. When I was up there I heard more south than NY rappers on the radio. I gotta blame the New York radios.
Big Gucci exactly dude the djs in Ny Nj supporting south Music and left out east coast
I remember Phife Dawg (RIP) said something to that effect in 2000 after he moved to Atlanta visiting New York.
Get 50 on the show so he can tell Joe wassup!
God this was such a great segment!
I like Maino with them... This energy was everything!!!
Its well known 50 & G-Unit were threatening broadcasters not to play Murder Inc. artists...Dre & Em were guilty of that shit too
Really?
Murder Inc was already falling off before 50 exploded. Nelly ran hip hop in 02. He is criminally disrespected.
the wack rappers ruined it
Parthion Plays what wack rapper
JERU maino
Cam'Ron Purple Haze came out in November of 2004 and was fire and was his last album on Rocafella...
Damn! Good looking out maino!! I totally forgot about Joe Buddens' FOCUS!!!! WHAT A FUCKIN' BANGER!!!! THAT BEAT!??? WHEWWWW STRAIGHT COKE!!!!!!!
50 look like he was gonna cry he was so mad
People need to stop believing the myth that "Everybody in the south gets along and works with each other."
Gucci beefed with Young Jeezy and T.I.; T.I. beefed with Lil Flip and Shawty Lo; Bankroll Fresh beefed with No Plug; Cash Money beefed with No Limit; Master P beefed with Pimp C....
50 strategically made himself a legend, not too many people have the wind or the guts to do what he did in hip hop
Joe is the essence of everyday struggle
Joe schooling these young men tho!
50 controlled the rap game from 2003-2007 he's a icon
Joe Budden voice sounds like that one drunk uncle that used to get high and smokes a lot of cigarettes and always got a story to tell.
Funny how Joey barking at Akademiks, but mad mellow with Maino 😂🤣
New York Killed New York music...
I agree with Joe it was real shame that Ja's career died because his shit was FIRE
Shady aftermath + fifty cent = my childhood happiness
Great input from nadeska...
Street battlers and guys that just had a passion for spitting for they surroundings kepted hip hop alive while the industry had celebrities selling they soul....so hip hop nevered,,died in the streets,,,,just the industry.......real talk
Ebro Killed NYC hip-hop radio. plain and simple.
Peep the stare joe gave Ak at 13:05 like “who said you can laugh bitch” lmao
It's a combination of things, not just 5cent...you got the Labels, radio program director & DJs that played a part in it..
50 is the reason it remained alive.
Now its Joey Badass carrying NYC on his back.
Grassy Lungs fbz too
joey badass is weak asf DAVE EAST AND DON Q
50 cent and g unit had the mainstream and the mixtape game lock away from dipset at the time 03-06 people didnt care about any other new york artist bcuz 50 was such a monster. he had the greatest run in hip hop history.
Popsy Sheldon Only G Unit fans think like that
Joe's song "Focus" was so cold..one of my favorite of all time
Diamond information in the video
West Coast is low-key movin right now
Jeezy and gucci had beef
This is the best debate I’ve seen so far, a debate with AK goes nowhere
I feel that’s what going on in Houston, Tx
50 saved hip hop. Before 50 it was trash ja rule Grease records.
And thank 50 for what mixtapes are today.
TruthHurts thank u
TruthHurts Real shit
How old are you
+Sergio
Ja Rule was a pop artist not a rapper. No way anyone named “Sergio” knows anything about hip hop.
Joe bodied that I swear. I used to think 50 caused a divide in the city. 50 isn't a factor but not whole reason. The internet does have a major effect on ny run.
Shot By Nolan the internet wasn't a factor till after 08 09 that's when the streaming started and all the youtube rappers
That raiders hat is fire
my laptops speaker is quiet as fuck unless joe is talking
Where tf has Maino been????
BIG CHACHI hes been in the closet
Fucking melo wife
BIG CHACHI Brooklyn
joe crcok bruuuuuuuh 😂😂😂
Shooting tupac
How y'all blame 50 and Ebro and not funkflex He The Main Reason TBH
Billionaire Dreamin it’s most of the East coast djs bro
If one man can kill a whole scene in NY, then you didn't have a strong enough scene to begin with.
Like the West after 2Pac died?
I like that red Raiders cap.
No, record companies in NY did when they started signing southern ringtone rappers.
HipHopR&BLover Jon that's part of it cause they stop looking at talent an wanted rappers who they can control with those 360 deals an selling out for money
Every comment here starts with "50"
Sanjay Kalra Probably because this video's about him
minimization is that a word? - maino hahaha my nikka
Maino need to come teach my Pop. Culture course one day...
Joe out here schooling the whole shits
50 said I'm from new york but I sound southern. He switched the sound of hip hop to Atlanta.
He does not sound southern at ALL
He's the voice of New York hip hop he paved the way
50 created a divide in New York with the all the beef shit & ppl got tired of it and just wanted to enjoy music for the clubs and just happen 2 put the light back on ATL
Ebro be on some new crack wave
music evolution killed hip hop
Its barely Hip Hop anymore. Rapping still exists tho
50 would always say " I ain't gonna let y'all eat" after each song haha
50 made Hip hop worldwide. How can you say 50 cent ended new york rap when he couldn’t even get a deal in new york
Yo maino schooled Joe. I've been saying this whole time all Joe does is speak theories rarely any facts. Always what he assumes and believes whatever he assumes.
Ras kass . Kendrick . Kurupt . daz . Tde . Planet Asia . Krooked I . Suga free . Holding it down westcoast style 👍👍👍
Get Rich or Die Trying is still the best gym album of all time till this day 😎💪🏻👊🏻
50 was a final chess piece for Jimmy Iovine and the Interscope machine.
"These rappers keep sayin' they're bringin' New York back. I ain't go nowhere I am New York, jack." - 50 Cent
*Early gang*
I'm from Cali and 50cent was the only artist out of New York I would listen to at that point.
What about fabolous and the lox. Or the new rappers after 05.