Which 12v Impact Driver is Best?
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I have both, the m12 fuel and 12v extreme. I prefer the DeWalt due to the ergonomics. The grip isn't bulky like the m12 and hangs from my belt better. I enjoy using both and am happy I have both.
Love the new format and the Olympic podium style graphics - looks good and it's easy to track where the tools performed for each test!
Great test. I considered both the Milwaukee and Dewalt 12V Impact drivers (and drills), but went with Milwaukee. While I agree that the Dewalt's grip is more comfortable and its halo led light is better, I didn't care for its wobbly hex chuck. Also, Milwaukee's extensive line of 12V tools is a huge advantage over 12V offerings from Dewalt and the others.
I do agree that investing into the m12 line is a smart decision.
I was in the same boat, but went Dewalt because the grip and 12v and 20v both use the same charger. If Dewalt didn't finally release ratchets, I would have bought Milwaukee. Splitting hairs though.
@@nismomike3182 love my M12 Fuel high speed ratchet although its max torque is only 35 ft/lbs and end up assisting it quite more often that I'd like to remove nuts and bolts. How's the DeWalt in that area?
Not only that pretty sure the Dewalt only has a 3/8 Chuck other drill not a half inch.
The M 12 GEN3 releases next month and it has the tri light on it this dude (hard working Dave) didn’t see it because he wasn’t invited to pipeline but it has 30% more power seems like a nice upgrade.I’m sure he (honest Dave) knows about it just chooses not to talk about it
I agree with the other comments. Great upgrade in keeping it action-packed!
Thank you Metroid
Had the fuel m12 for two years now, it’s my go-to tool. It’s light, compact, precise and over powered. To think that Milwaukee came with an even more compact and even more OP gen 3 m12 fuel just blows my mind.
Makita isn't known really for power. Mainly for precision, comfort feeling slick
I’ve had 20v dewalt for a couple years and got the 12v extreme almost a year now and don’t even remember where the 20v is . 12 is way more light and has plenty of power I’d definitely get it especially if they have offers with free 5ah batteries !
Even on an 18volt tool I’d pre drill those lags!
New look for the tool graphic to go along with the new look of the cave. I like it and well done.
we will see how it develops in the future :)
I have the Skil, and do fan and light assembly with it. I love them, and have lots of PwrCore 12 Skil tools. I have been very impressed with all of them. I am planning on getting an m12 for slightly harder tasks.
Why not just get a m18 for the heavier duty jobs
@@rayamat01 I do. I have loads of m18 stuff
I have larger hands, so the m12 grip isn’t a problem for me. I have both DeWalt and Milwaukee 12v tools. My little gen 2 m12 hammer drill is a handy little tool. I just used it to tear apart my air handler to clean out the evaporator coils.
I am big fan for Makita tools,but that DeWalt is awesome.
Had them all but Hilti is my favourite 12v
How can he say Dewalt is 1st when clearly milwaukee came in first for every test except the 4in bolt.
Great comparisons! I wonder where the Bosch 12v brushless impact would fit in against these.
I think the Bosch might be where the Makita is but not as good ergonomics.
@@donaldstepp4850as someone with both, you’re absolutely right.
Hi Dave. This video seemed very crisp and clean. I almost felt like I was there. Just my imagination? I really like your new approach. The logs were fun, but this seemed more “real world.”
I’m far from an expert, very much a tool newby but for some reason I love tool videos! I enjoy these comparisons and appreciate your objectivity. I would be interested in seeing a comparison between the 12 volt tools and their bigger brothers from the same brand. I’m not sure if that would be popular or just me being the class idiot? 😃
Thank you for continuing to make these videos and for the upgrades. The new improved workshop is AWESOME!!! 👍👍👍
Loved it! I like that we get your thought at the end knowing the numbers. Before we it was "I haven't seen the time" but now it's great. Also maybe I missed it but price points would be good to talk about.
I thought id try to put the specs of the tools in the description. but I can add that in as well to the video. :)
@@ManCaverTools oh I see it now. Sorry I hardly go into the video description unless I'm looking for a link or directed to do so for something I need. My bad. Great video.
Great vid. During pipeline, Milwaukee claimed their new Gen3 M12 FUEL impact was the most powerful sub-compact impact driver, even more powerful than some of their sub-compact 18-volt competitors. I would love to see some of these 12-volts vs their higher voltage counterparts.
I can't wait to test those new Milwaukee tools out
I really enjoyed this video, as not many 12v comparison videos on TH-cam that are evaluating tools I'm primarily concerned with.
When you get into the low voltage segment, a lot of people are looking for things battery run time, the tools weight with the battery already attached(something you do always, as far as I can tell.), the overall size, possibly even lower torque.
To me, I don't really notice the Milwaukee's handle girth, but with my size, I get in my own way.
Thank you so much for your time 🙏🔥🔥🔥
I am not sure how Milwaukee wins most tests but the winning decision is based upon ergonomics? Why do all the other testing then?
like it says in the video that Milwaukee won the tests but it not only about power
I have the Milwaukee and I was using it to drive some lag bolts in a wood shed. They were good size, I believe 1/2"x 6". The tool couldn't do it. I had to pre drill. If it had less power it would have been even worse. As far as how the tool feels in the hand that is totally subjective. I think you would need multiple people to come up with something useful.
Good question sir
Kind of what I was wondering. 🤔 I'm thinking, geez is he sponsored by DeWalt? 😒 I mean, it seemed pretty obvious which was the overall top performer. The winner is determined by... small hands? 😅 But seriously, would have been nice to see a summary table for the results and how much time overall the Milwaukee saved. ✌🏼
Exactly.. I have my Milwaukee but I swear.. makita's grip is miles ahead.
In fact, I'm returning a Milwaukee 18 volt sander because the damn battery is on my way. All Milwaukee things about is power and they forget about ergonomics.
Great upgrade for the video! You go pro man!
The new format is awesome Dave. Your video quality looks better as well.
I thank you and it will get better as we go along.
I like this video format where you voiceover the footage after the fact. That way you know the results and can comment on the performance differences.
I love my PWRCORE 12 tools. They are not the most powerful but you can't beat them for the price. I'd be interested to see where their new impact sets in this lineup. It is more compact and more powerful.
I have the Milwaukee 2553 and the Surge (2551) as well as the Makita 18v Subcompact (XDT15) but when I want a small, light impact driver I find myself grabbing the Bosch PS42. It would be nice to see that in your test mix.
Would a washer signal the lag is fully driven in and not under or over? Also looking forward to the one+ orbital sander comparison
Great test man. Back when I was choosing a 12v line it came down to what could fit in a spare hammer loop. Milwaukee's barrel style fit nicely so I went with Milwaukee. No regrets. The M12 line is huge. Only flop is their 5 3/8 circ saw. Even their extremely weak brushed M12 drills have a place in the cabinet world.
Dave ,went to lowes and saw the size of the dewalts 12v drill and impact .I did not grasp that they were so small.From seeing them and watching your review I see why you chose them .
Very happy with my Skil for half the price.
Dyi guy. Dewalt tool user. But if I was to start again I’d look hard at Milwaukee or Makita. Dewalt does the job I’m not complaining. Thanks for vid
I thank you Craps
Pleasure as always Sir!
I thank you Tommy
Another great review from my favorite sauced up tool reviewer
I see by the gloves you've learned how hot those screws and bolts get when driven into solid wood 😀
I've been doing this for years. These lags burn through most gloves. they get hot quick
DeWalt 12V DCF801 Xtreme impact driver is the best for me along with the DCF601 Screw driver these tools are a precision tools for me. For daily use decking and framing my old DeWalt 20V DCF885 is doing fine so does my old dcf888. When it comes to power and torque my Flex 24V Quick Eject Brushless Impact Driver with 6.0Ah Stack Lithium pouch cell battery destroys every Milwaukee, Makita and Hilti in the jobsite. Otherwise my Ryobi 18V PBLID02 HP impact driver is my alternative tool to make the other contractor in the jobsite to make fun of me because they didn't know I got the best tools hiding in my truck the Flex 24V tools
Great video. I can see why it took more time to edit though. THere was quite of bit of material there. Good video though. It'll be interesting to see how this all sits after the Milwaukee Gen 3 Update next month.
it is far more editing than usual. but it is worth it
@@ManCaverTools which made the video far better, do this with all your videos please.
For the 12v tool, Milwaukee win because of their battery design for compact. I own both Milwaukee M12 and Makita 18v line. When M12 does not provide enough power, I pull out my Makita 18v.
I have the 12v Hilti, it’s a charm, it sits screws better than my 22v impact driver at times, only thing I’d say is the connects for the tool that holds the battery can go bad and Hilti has this weird thing that they try to prove to you that isn’t their batteries but they never fixed my drill
Great job l like the new style keep it up!!!!
I thank you Kenneth
Love that new style your nailed it
Nice test. This is what I been looking for... finally someone is weighing the tools. I have a the dewalt 850 with a powerstack on my belt every day and still weights alot. Been debating to get a 12v drill just to do electrical trimming... the milwaukee and dewalt you presented are those the best and the lightest tools they offer?
I like milwaukee but the position of the belt hook though.
I just overall feel like the dewalt 12volt is the way to go overall I have both and just gravitate towards the dewalt
Would like to see a comparison between 3/8 impact wrench with adapter vs the 1/4 driver, all being 12v
Milwaukee for me and the gen 4 m18 is a beast too
More test videos are coming :)
Used to own that Milwaukee little beast. Still got a few M12 tools but now own 18V impacts.
One can only wonder how much ahead will Milwaukee get with the just-released Gen 3
Gen 4? With the tri led… that’s what I’m wondering too
@@chrisleslie1988 The 2022 M12 Fuel impact and drill driver are 3rd gen. The M18 tools are 4th gen
Well.... The best tool, Hmmm! depends on what you mean by best. Yes the DeWalt is more comfortable and has a better light, but the Milwaukee is anywhere from 30-50% faster in some cases. While the M12 is not as ergonomic as the DeWalt, you also don't have to hold it as long because it get things done much faster!!! (i own the Milwaukee and the Dewalt and prefer the DeWalt but usually grab the Milwaukee.
Like like the dewalt but the only down side with them for me is the handle is to short for my hand so I went with the m12 and I like the big m12 platform
I bought the newest Milwaukee impact and drill. But I'm considering returning it and getting the Makita. I'm not liking the post battery. Also don't like the the selector on top. I know Makita doesn't have as much capability and doesn't have the same features. I see it's in last place. Would Dewalt be a good choice?
Any suggestions would be helpful.
Makita 12v tools aren't bad either. it would be a good choice :)
Prefer the DW12V myself. Very strong, light, and affordable. But they don't have the line M12 has. I love the M12 Surge. (DCF601) Screwdriver gets most use for me. Wonderful on a gun bench.
You forgot the Bosch.
To be fair the dewalt jas a 5.0 ah battery. As an electrician I can tell you that certainly adds some extra power to the performance
Hello
I want to buy an impact driver for home use, what do you recommend?
dewalt 801or Milwaukee gen 2,3 or dewalt 887
Besides the Skil and Makita, they basically all do the job in about 8.5 seconds
--I do wonder though, at what point does switching to bigger batteries make it weigh heavier than a faster more powerful 18v with a size-1P battery? Have fun; and experiment! 👋
these 12v tools are a good option to have. Not all tasks require a high voltage tool
Nice reviews sir
The milwaukee is the best hands down. Are you kidding me?
Yep that's what the test proved. It's just silly. Oh by the way I own both and like both brands but that was silly.
Same! He must be sponsored by Dewalt 😂😂😂😂
He just displayed that Milwaukee is the best and says that Dewalt is the best, makes no sense, Milwaukee all the way.
Milwaukee also costs 2x more than the skil....it's not always worth it
I love Mikita tools but their 12 volts need more power.
The Dewalt DCF840 with powerstack blows the M12 Milwaukee out of the park and is lighters and grip is smaller.
I'm a Dewalt guy, but if the Milwaukee came in first in every test except 1 or 2 that I remember, why did you choose Dewalt?
because its not only about the power of tool. Milwaukee was the winner but I actually dont use the milwaukee impact driver. id go with something I can use for a long time and be comfortable in the hand. it feel more natural to hold
I honestly think some of the impacts have too much power sometimes the 12 volts have never really made me spin out on a screw i tend to use my m12 before i grab my m18
I am not any seeing posts from people who claim to make a living using any brand 12v impact drivers all day long. I don’t own any 12v branded drivers so I have no expertise to answer this comparison. I am looking into buying 12v soon & would love to hear what people who use them daily over & over have to say about power vs ergonomics.
Will be interesting to see how the new 3rd gen M12 impact stacks up. Looks like the Dewalt and Hilti and gen2 M12 are the only real competitors
I can't wait to test them out
Why they gonna loose because you don't like the grip lmao 🤣
That Makita hasn't been updated in over 5 years. Of course there are brand/model differences, but the better performers tend to be the ones updated more recently.
Makita needs to upgrade it soon
Wish you had not said one was best .maybe most powerful instead . I love your 12v reviews and look forward to more . I like the 12v for there size , not there power though I want speed . I would want info on which 12v is the smallest and lightest .
Is there a redeeming quality of the Makita? Something a Makita fan boy can give me some input on?
Have the td111 impact, DF032 screwdriver, HP332 Combi Drill and the tm30 multitool. Love them all and haven't failed me apart from a non genuine makita battery, the rest originals. Did buy the milwaukee impact and screwdriver for advertised more power but didn't like the grip and sold them. What I would say is dewalt grip is similar to makita and dewalt now have a larger range of 12v brushless so I'd say they looks good also, would probably go dewalt now for the extra tools available.
Milwaukee kicks everyone
I don’t understand how the Milwaukee dominated everything but yet the Dewalt was the winner make that make sense just because of the grip it’s a 12 V that grip is not very big
It's not only about power. Agronomics/design also are factors. I say the Milwaukee won the tests, but I would choose the Dewalt. a lot of people dont like the m12 handles.
the only m12 tool that I use is the baby chainsaw. I dont use any other m12 power tools anymore because of that handle. I manly use HILTI and Dewalt Extreme for my 12v tools when I actually use my tools
Haven’t seen anyone test out Craftsman tools. Especially the drills..What’s really going on?? Lmk what’s up
Hilti is just not impressing me at the diyer and residential construction level. The demo hammers/ jack hammers, absolutely suck. Maybe they last a long time, which is my number one concern, but I’m just not feeling them right now.
when it comes to HILTI 12v tool, its their 12v screw driver that I love. That impact driver does slack a bit on power
Damn. My Makita XDT15RB sub compact impact driver with a 2ah battery is about the same size of all these 🤔
Everybody likes Milwaukee
Ok Milwaukee won 🏆 everything but the 3 inch lag which was i feel deliberately put in a knot and yet you declared dewalt the winner wtf awesome video love the way it was edited but you after all the times Milwaukee won bro you can't say because I like this grip more its the winner lmao come on Dave
It won most but not all tests. His caption even stated it won. His preference simply came down to ergonomics.
Like it's grip? Milwaukee doesn't even like it's grip- that's why m18s have completely different ergonomics. It is a limitation of their battery design. The small differences in these testing would not overcome that issue for a lot of people.
@@ccbowers regardless Milwaukee has more power point blank. And gen 3 has even more not to mention how many tools 🤔 😳 😅 I cannot in good faith say any is my favorite they all have there places I don't like bias and just because it doesn't fit your hand doesn't mean it doesn't fit mine 😉 😜
@@TacticalThib Is power the only criterion you are interested in? It is a poorly ergonomic grip and that's why the m18 (nor any other slide battery tool) don't have the same grip. If you've gotten accustomed to it, congrats. Do you think when Milwaukee redesigns the battery for m12 (or its replacementin the future), the grips will be the same bulbous shape? Of course not.
I wanted higher levels of power than other 12V tools could offer, I'd use an 18V tool. Too many people look at power alone, but that is rarely the deciding factor once you get to a certain quality of tool, other than youtube challenge videos.
@@ccbowers what was this test for brushless 12v challenge correct? Who won regardless of what you feel ergo should be is your hand my hand? So don't pretend that because you feel this way everyone feels the same thanks
Reason you get a 12v is to do like 80 percent of your task but easier to carry and ergonomic
exactly, they are so powerful they do so many tasks
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You sure makita was on highest setting?
I go with the dewalt
Gee. Milwaukee came out on top, accept for one test and you chose Dewalt. Also you used the Gen 2 Milwaukee instead of the Gen 3, which is lighter and out performs the Gen 2. Just curious.
You should get some impact sockets bro
I need to get the 3/8 sockets
Seems no matter what impact or drill your using everyone can agree on is using Dewalt bits lol
Dewalt bits are fantastic
milwaukee pretty good and dewalt.
Bro how come you didn't spread them out? You realize as you're drilling into that board and making holes in it you're just making it easier for the Milwaukee when it's finally its turn? That's kind of silly. I'm a Milwaukee fan I own Milwaukee 12 volt tools that's the tool line I decided to go with but well your test is pretty obviously flawed my friend.
wheres bosch??
I didnt have a brushless bosch at the time
I really wish you would elaborate a little bit more as to why you would skip over the M12 after it acing every single test you made for them. Do you have any other criteria that you didnt tell us? Is it personal preference? Im guessing the thickness of the grip has something to do with this, but dont really feel like that was clear. Personally I prefer the Milwaukee / Bosch variant with the battery in the grip, makes the whole package so much smaller with compact batteries, but it does take some time getting used to. Usually I will hold mine with middle finger on the trigger and index finger along the side of it, and it sits alot better in the hand then. Biggest dislike with the M12 for me is the light placement (which the new one coming out fixes) and that batteries doesnt feel very secure in place.
Anyway it just seemed very abrupt with M12 winning every test then suddenly at the end DeWalt is the winner. As if it was evaluated on something completely different than the tests you made for it. Might be a good idea to talk more about that during the testing if you have problems with it, or even find other points to evaluate on such as perceived comfort, noise, vibration etc.
Power of the tool isn't everything. I declared the Milwaukee the winner of the tests. but as a suggested preference. Id go for the Dewalt extreme. I and many others think that the m12 tool handles are a bit awkward to hold. I just prefer the Dewalt and people in many comments asked to give an opinion on what tool I would prefer to use after these test videos. so now I have that in here :)
@@ManCaverTools By all means, I don't have a problem with that at all. It's a good idea. I just personally wish there would be more of your thoughts on why spesifically you don't like the M12 and what spesifically you like about the dewalt.
But hey, this is just me airing my thoughts in the hope it may be useful, nothing more ^^
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I really want to like Makita's 12V tools, but the Skil Pwrcore12 tools just outperform Makita, for less money. I love my Skil Pwrcore12 drill and oscillating multi tool.
The DeWalt 12V line is hit-or-miss when it comes to beating Milwaukee. The impact driver is not as strong, but the drill (dcd701) is stronger than the M12 Fuel hammer drill. And the DeWalt line is A LOT more comfortable.
Those lags are a bit Over the top tbh, you’d never ever use that tool for that.
but it makes a great motor test
@@ManCaverTools true!! Wasn’t surprised the Makita lost tbh, was surprised at how well the Hilti did though
Bogus, Milwaukee beat DeWalt practically every time and yet you declare DeWalt the winner I don't know dude
this isn't a race. it also has to do with how to tool performes and handles. like I say in the video, Milwaukee won but I would recommend the dewalt. dont like it? to bad
Lol 😂 milwaukee won most of the tests and he says dewalt won. Must be a dewalt fan boy. Also you should run more than just once for each test in case there is a knot in the wood you can't see.
Lol milwaukee wins every round, by a large margin
End of video: he says his opinion is dewault wins 🤔
Makita should be ashamed
You are bias towards DeWalt
First
Interesting, the Milwaukee wiped the floor with the DeWalt and you would choose the DeWalt. Why??? You make no sense at all. The Milwaukee won every test but one.
Overall makita 12v is trash just dont buy it
the makita 12v could be better, but the reality is these are all 12v tools performing tasks above their pay grade and what people normally wont use these tools for
@@ManCaverTools i know its Made for many small screws not big ones but all Tools of makita 12v arent great i hat some and gave them to somebody that only needs small Tools but for me i need some Power for holesaws and stuff
Why no Flex
These are 12v tools
@WomenHateShortMen 🧐 this was my first video of a voice over. give me a break. it will get better within a few videos
@WomenHateShortMen 🧐 Flex doesn't make 12v tools bro. that's why flex is not in this video. its common sense to not have a higher voltage tool brand in a 12v tool video.