Speaking of E.T. lost media, there's a Playstation 2 game that never got released called "E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial: Return to the Green Planet". You can find the game's rating on the ESRB's website, indicating that it was indeed finished, and the composer uploaded the soundtrack onto TH-cam.
I've heardf stories about how deeply upset Drew Barrymore was when she thought E.T was actually dying. But to see actual behind the scenes footage with her and Spielberg and seeing her actually upset hit me right in the feels.. ;_;
Hearing Spielberg talk about how they played the production in a way that used real emotion from their actors, and cutting the final ending to just let the impact of that heartwarming scene sit...This is what separates Art from Agenda
I dunno. I understand why that ending scene takes away from that moment, but it doesn't make it a bad ending scene nor making it about an "Agenda." It's like the Tosche Station scene from A New Hope. It explains a hell of a lot of what's going on, but it gets in the way of the pacing. This ending doesn't work not because of some agenda or something, but because it's emotional whiplash with what we get in the final film. It's a good scene, ties things up well, and brings the story back to Elliot learning to be a better kid, but it's too different from that final scene (plus makes little sense if he's not autistic).
@@ScooterinAB no, ET isn't about agenda, it's art. I'm comparing the movie's production to the modern mentality of studio filmmaking where everything is thrown together and boxes and checked and it's not about story or emotional connection, it's about proving a point
Wanting a certain audience/viewer response is an agenda. Everyone generally has an agenda. But, I’d agree larger political/social agendas really seem out of hand at the moment to me. And when it comes to historical or older films you’re much more often getting ones that stood above the rest. Having watched movies from every decade for decades that’s the conclusion I’ve come to. We just don’t have to be inundated by crap of the past like we experience in our current place in time.
@Purplesubmariner Oh please. What about the anti-Christian agenda using The Creation of Adam visual to sell an anti-Christian movie theme? What about the changes they made regarding gun control propaganda? No agenda. HA! Yeah, I really admire his restraint and artistic focus. lol
I got what you were saying. Some people can't see past their own projections. You made your points clear and concise. And not once did I feel the need to stomp or cut into it with my childhood, preconceived notions or any personal baggage to sh*t on your point. Stay poetic.
I guess, the movie works the best it was finally cut. ET was one of my late mom's fave films. As a teacher she watched the film on original release with her class in theater. 2 decades later she watched the Anniversary Edition with me in theater. She liked the bonding parts, but agreed that the first cut worked the best.
Hershey is not a Canadian company. It is headquartered in the USA, in Hershey, Pennsylvania. However, Hershey does have a massive factory in Ontario, Canada.
I wish I had a time machine so I could save lost media. I don’t think it really would help with this case of media but stuff like the lost Shining ending would be awesome to save for today
I had heard that Warner Brothers does have it but in keeping with the wishes of the Estate that stuff will never be seen. Never say never. I'm holding my breath for the original 2001 cut.
Yeah. As much as I understand what Spielberg was trying to do (the effects were limited by what was possible then), the CG shots just don't work. The best effects are the ones you don't notice, especially when you have something like an alien. It's a problem if I can look out of the corner of my eye and immediately spot that this is CG, and that takes me out of the movie.
A cgi overacting ET gives a cringe. They should keep the puppet as much as they can and just replicate another puppet like effect or create another puppet and put it there with masking. Phisical effects are always better.
I guess I'm going to have to be the one to talk about the last 12 minutes of this video I actually know the scene and reasons why ET is hovering over Elliot's mother In the novelization of ET there is a lot of extra information you get from ET because you actually hear his thought process throughout the novel in the scene in question though the reason behind him actually hovering over Elliot's mother. is that he's in love and infatuated with her and he's creepily pining over her while she sleeps what makes the scene even more creepier is the book elaborates on how old ET actually is and he is well over the age to be considered an old man. The novel novelization is a very interestingly weird and worth the read they're also some people on TH-cam who have read the novel I recommend finding them the novel is a bit of a long read
That originally intended last airual crane shot pulling back meant to finish the film before fade out is like cutting out the final shot from Citizen Kane and leaving the Rosebud reveal on the cutting room floor. That pull out POV to reveal E.T. left Elliot a homemade satellite transmitter communication unit on the roof suggesting that Elliot and E.T. will be able to continue their connection and establish the furthest long distance relationship in the cosmos. I mean, I get fade to black at the absolute exact Pinnacle and emotional peak that is the heart of the movie a la Rocky and The Karate Kid. It leaves the audience on an all-time gargantuan adrenaline high. But, the deleted original ending actually leaves me with an even bigger, more profound and deeper satisfying high that's fulfilling to the soul. I always thought Elliot was saying goodbye forever aa a kid watching it and this would be a relationship that would define Elliot as having experienced sonething phenomenal, but would also haunt him his entire life the way losing your best friend in childhood always will have a bitter-sweet lasting effect, E.T. is kinda a hard act to beat. But now, forty years later, I can recontextualize their chances of reuniting by E.T. leaving an actual DIY inner-stellar CB hand radio. Breaker, breaker good buddy, ten-four. Space Cowboy over.
ET was a near perfect movie for me. Spielberg hated the fact it looked like a puppet and that it could only move so much. Just like George Lucas & Yoda. But audiences never saw a puppet. We saw ET & we saw Yoda. I always respected Spielberg for releasing his vision and the original. I always wanted a sequel because ET was like a friend. I went through the same emotions as Elliott. I wanted to see more ET. But I also wanted more Terminator movies too. An ending is bittersweet, but sometimes it's better than the alternative.
@DamonCzanik That whole nonsense was just trying to say "we didn't change it for greed or agendas or to make people think they missed out on something so they'd buy the same movie again; we made it the way we should've made it before". Yeah, right! Dry that one out and you can fertilize the state of Texas. lol
Read the script for Night Skies it's a shame it never got made, would have been a great sequel. So Matteson took the autistic part from the character Jaybird, never knew that. BTW that cute alien at the end of the vid is named Buddie.
Kindersley is a Canadian truck company, often mistaken Hershey. Its fleet of trailers are painted brown with white lettering like the candybar 🍫 wrapping.
@@Jaydogg222 not sure what video you’re referencing but a documentary series on Netflix touched on this subject and it is extremely interesting and definitely worth a watch. Once you know the backstory of ET the video game you understand how everything fell apart and it almost makes you feel bad for the creators.
Elliot having ASD changes how I am going to see the movie. I now want to watch it with that in mind. I understand why the ending D&D scene is removed, but in light of Elliot having ASD, I really like it. It makes the movie about Elliot again and for the message to be able how ET helped him learn how to be a friend and be less "weird." The same is true for many of the other scenes; they only work if he's autistic and really add to that, but I understand that the movie stalls too much with some of these scenes. Regarding the guns, and maybe this is because I'm a traumatized 80s kid, butt I'm a fan of Don Bluth's approach. You can show these government agents trying to shoot children as long as the movie has a happy ending. That adds more weight and motivation to the flying thing; it's not that they're flying because the agents are in the way. They're flying because they're about to get shot, and that to me makes a lot more sense. Kids are going to be able to understand at least part of that, but yeah, it's dark as hell.
You must tell the story Of Night Skies which was a horror movie and Rick Baker did the effects. And his work was taken by the studio when ET story changed.
There’s a scene where the boys are talking about their dad in the garage. Somebody’s listening in you can see the profile. I always thought that was Harrison Ford.
For years I didn't watch it again; then the classical station was playing the theme and I decided it would be worth watching again just for the music; so I did and I got seriously addicted to it. Same with Close encounters.
saw ET special screening for the anniversary locally. they left the guns and all the CG shit out and it was glorious. when I heard Spielberg talking about how he wished the father in close encounters didnt do everything because a "family man" wouldn't do that.. give me a break. these guys had the money to decimate and ruin their films. Lucas with all his stupid ass CG additions (color grading and matte removal is fine..no problems). rant over, im pissed
Wait....your example of Elliot possibly being on the spectrum is him showing E.T. his Star Wars figures? Nearly every 10 year old kid in America in 1982 had, played with, and gleefully showed off their Star Wars figures 😂
No, it's him being an isolated weirdo, not taking social cues, drawing on the wall, and everything else in the film that shows him having ASD. Lining up his action figures is one example taken with a number of other examples.
@@ScooterinAB he was behaving that way because he was unaware he was empathically connecting with E.T. ...not because he was supposed to be autistic in the final cut. They un-sync during the medical scenes towards the end.
@@opinian1068 So ignoring that he's a misfit in the first parts of the movie, the point is that he learned how to better relate to people over the duration of the film (just as those with ASD can more consciously learn how to manage their behaviour). So them "unsyncing" at the end is just that. However, I don't think this is the case. I'd have to rewatch it, but his behaviour during the medical scenes still resonates as autistic. What we'd need is a deep dive into this topic,. not a one-liner in a TH-cam video that isn't meant to be a deep dive. What this section of the video did was reveal that this was the plan. It isn't meant to tie in every part of the movie as proof.
@@ScooterinAB Yeah totally I see your point. He's not really a misfit he's just trying to fit in with older boys - as most young boys do - plus the entire family is in the aftermath a the patents separating. The dad is almost an invisible character in it. Spielberg's angle story-wise was a bit autobiographical in response to his own parents divorce. E.T. arrives when the family is super vulnerable. I think Elliot is totally normal. He's as curious and imaginative as any kid.
It really made me crack up when you said autistic person compared to an "able bodied" person lol. I think you meant neurotypical. You're clearly trying to be respectful though, no shade your way.
Hershey is an American company. M&Ms were actually invented by Bruce Murrie who was the son of the president of the Hershey's company. They were made with Hershey's chocolate during the war and it was until 1948 when Forrest Mars (the other M) bought out Murrie and became a competitor. Also I'm going to assume you mean Dungeon Master.
I think he said "ringmaster" or whatever because the film would have wanted to stay away from the Satanic Panic of D&D, and probably avoid dealing with licensing, since Gygax was a huge dick.
Speaking of E.T. lost media, there's a Playstation 2 game that never got released called "E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial: Return to the Green Planet". You can find the game's rating on the ESRB's website, indicating that it was indeed finished, and the composer uploaded the soundtrack onto TH-cam.
I'm working on a video documentary on that game and it's source book.
@@AdventureMaster18 Oh, cool! I wouldn't mind seeing that when it's finished.
I've heardf stories about how deeply upset Drew Barrymore was when she thought E.T was actually dying. But to see actual behind the scenes footage with her and Spielberg and seeing her actually upset hit me right in the feels.. ;_;
Hearing Spielberg talk about how they played the production in a way that used real emotion from their actors, and cutting the final ending to just let the impact of that heartwarming scene sit...This is what separates Art from Agenda
I dunno. I understand why that ending scene takes away from that moment, but it doesn't make it a bad ending scene nor making it about an "Agenda." It's like the Tosche Station scene from A New Hope. It explains a hell of a lot of what's going on, but it gets in the way of the pacing. This ending doesn't work not because of some agenda or something, but because it's emotional whiplash with what we get in the final film. It's a good scene, ties things up well, and brings the story back to Elliot learning to be a better kid, but it's too different from that final scene (plus makes little sense if he's not autistic).
@@ScooterinAB no, ET isn't about agenda, it's art. I'm comparing the movie's production to the modern mentality of studio filmmaking where everything is thrown together and boxes and checked and it's not about story or emotional connection, it's about proving a point
Wanting a certain audience/viewer response is an agenda. Everyone generally has an agenda. But, I’d agree larger political/social agendas really seem out of hand at the moment to me.
And when it comes to historical or older films you’re much more often getting ones that stood above the rest. Having watched movies from every decade for decades that’s the conclusion I’ve come to. We just don’t have to be inundated by crap of the past like we experience in our current place in time.
@Purplesubmariner Oh please. What about the anti-Christian agenda using The Creation of Adam visual to sell an anti-Christian movie theme? What about the changes they made regarding gun control propaganda? No agenda. HA! Yeah, I really admire his restraint and artistic focus. lol
I got what you were saying. Some people can't see past their own projections. You made your points clear and concise. And not once did I feel the need to stomp or cut into it with my childhood, preconceived notions or any personal baggage to sh*t on your point. Stay poetic.
Nowadays the original “Dungeons & Dragons” ending could’ve been an after-credits scene.
Give this person a medal!!
That is a perfect way to reintroduce it.
I guess, the movie works the best it was finally cut. ET was one of my late mom's fave films. As a teacher she watched the film on original release with her class in theater. 2 decades later she watched the Anniversary Edition with me in theater. She liked the bonding parts, but agreed that the first cut worked the best.
Hershey is not a Canadian company. It is headquartered in the USA, in Hershey, Pennsylvania. However, Hershey does have a massive factory in Ontario, Canada.
Nightmares for weeks, this movie gave me.
I wish I had a time machine so I could save lost media. I don’t think it really would help with this case of media but stuff like the lost Shining ending would be awesome to save for today
I had heard that Warner Brothers does have it but in keeping with the wishes of the Estate that stuff will never be seen. Never say never. I'm holding my breath for the original 2001 cut.
It’s archived
Ehhh...if you are interested I do know this scientist named Doc Emmett Brown. ⌚⏲
I actually like the ideas for the extra scenes but the CG ET just stands out sooo much
The CG scenes stick out like a sore thumb. Physical effect E.T. still looks real to me.
Yeah. As much as I understand what Spielberg was trying to do (the effects were limited by what was possible then), the CG shots just don't work. The best effects are the ones you don't notice, especially when you have something like an alien. It's a problem if I can look out of the corner of my eye and immediately spot that this is CG, and that takes me out of the movie.
A cgi overacting ET gives a cringe. They should keep the puppet as much as they can and just replicate another puppet like effect or create another puppet and put it there with masking. Phisical effects are always better.
I guess I'm going to have to be the one to talk about the last 12 minutes of this video I actually know the scene and reasons why ET is hovering over Elliot's mother
In the novelization of ET there is a lot of extra information you get from ET because you actually hear his thought process throughout the novel in the scene in question though the reason behind him actually hovering over Elliot's mother. is that he's in love and infatuated with her and he's creepily pining over her while she sleeps what makes the scene even more creepier is the book elaborates on how old ET actually is and he is well over the age to be considered an old man.
The novel novelization is a very interestingly weird and worth the read they're also some people on TH-cam who have read the novel I recommend finding them the novel is a bit of a long read
Yeah I'm glad we didn't get pervy ET that would have been weird!
lol His mom dressed and wore clothes and her hair like a boy; et must be gay.
That originally intended last airual crane shot pulling back meant to finish the film before fade out is like cutting out the final shot from Citizen Kane and leaving the Rosebud reveal on the cutting room floor. That pull out POV to reveal E.T. left Elliot a homemade satellite transmitter communication unit on the roof suggesting that Elliot and E.T. will be able to continue their connection and establish the furthest long distance relationship in the cosmos. I mean, I get fade to black at the absolute exact Pinnacle and emotional peak that is the heart of the movie a la Rocky and The Karate Kid. It leaves the audience on an all-time gargantuan adrenaline high. But, the deleted original ending actually leaves me with an even bigger, more profound and deeper satisfying high that's fulfilling to the soul. I always thought Elliot was saying goodbye forever aa a kid watching it and this would be a relationship that would define Elliot as having experienced sonething phenomenal, but would also haunt him his entire life the way losing your best friend in childhood always will have a bitter-sweet lasting effect, E.T. is kinda a hard act to beat. But now, forty years later, I can recontextualize their chances of reuniting by E.T. leaving an actual DIY inner-stellar CB hand radio. Breaker, breaker good buddy, ten-four. Space Cowboy over.
Great informative video as always
ET was a near perfect movie for me. Spielberg hated the fact it looked like a puppet and that it could only move so much. Just like George Lucas & Yoda. But audiences never saw a puppet. We saw ET & we saw Yoda. I always respected Spielberg for releasing his vision and the original.
I always wanted a sequel because ET was like a friend. I went through the same emotions as Elliott. I wanted to see more ET. But I also wanted more Terminator movies too. An ending is bittersweet, but sometimes it's better than the alternative.
@DamonCzanik That whole nonsense was just trying to say "we didn't change it for greed or agendas or to make people think they missed out on something so they'd buy the same movie again; we made it the way we should've made it before". Yeah, right! Dry that one out and you can fertilize the state of Texas. lol
Wow, I had never seen Elliot in the school nurse's room drawing on the walls, that's cool.
Read the script for Night Skies it's a shame it never got made, would have been a great sequel. So Matteson took the autistic part from the character Jaybird, never knew that. BTW that cute alien at the end of the vid is named Buddie.
Thank you for making this. I’ve always wanted to find out all why the deleted scenes happened
So I’ve been sitting on that laserdisc for 5 years, with no idea there was such a wealth of extra material!
Yeah; I found mine in a thrift store for 50 cents. The one with both versions.
Never saw these deleted scenes awesome
Kindersley is a Canadian truck company, often mistaken Hershey. Its fleet of trailers are painted brown with white lettering like the candybar 🍫 wrapping.
Wow this was a great video, very interesting cool facts 😊thank you
I always wonder if Spielberg played that infamous video game though given the reputation, it would be very likely not.
He did actually. He had to sign off on it. There is an interview on TH-cam where he talks about playing it...
@@Jaydogg222 not sure what video you’re referencing but a documentary series on Netflix touched on this subject and it is extremely interesting and definitely worth a watch. Once you know the backstory of ET the video game you understand how everything fell apart and it almost makes you feel bad for the creators.
If Steven speilberg directs a movie it must have been someone's childhood!!!!
And or someone like Chris Columbus who Was inspired By Spielberg And reminized His style like what he did with his Harry Potter movies! :-)
lets hope its not Saving Private Ryan.
@@purefoldnz3070 Or Jaws...
@@Jaydogg222 yeah but Jaws is quite tame these days
@@purefoldnz3070 not when your in the water...
Not lost if you had that old anniversary vhs, the first one with the walkie talkie edit? Yeah I had that copy and saw the deleted scenes.
Film them
I have the 2 disc anniversary DVD that these were on
I have the 'special edition remastered • with unseen footage' 115m in length and released in 2002, dont know if the footage is still unseen
6:54 did I hear a bit of disappear by phutureprimitive?
Elliot as Dungeon Master scene would be a post credits stinger if this movie was released now.
Elliot having ASD changes how I am going to see the movie. I now want to watch it with that in mind.
I understand why the ending D&D scene is removed, but in light of Elliot having ASD, I really like it. It makes the movie about Elliot again and for the message to be able how ET helped him learn how to be a friend and be less "weird." The same is true for many of the other scenes; they only work if he's autistic and really add to that, but I understand that the movie stalls too much with some of these scenes.
Regarding the guns, and maybe this is because I'm a traumatized 80s kid, butt I'm a fan of Don Bluth's approach. You can show these government agents trying to shoot children as long as the movie has a happy ending. That adds more weight and motivation to the flying thing; it's not that they're flying because the agents are in the way. They're flying because they're about to get shot, and that to me makes a lot more sense. Kids are going to be able to understand at least part of that, but yeah, it's dark as hell.
Cool
I liked the bits with Elliot and ET in the bathroom. The rest really didn't seem necessary.
Anyone see the sequel?
What world in the multiverse did they release it on?
I love that.. With enhanced visual effects........of 2002. Yeah dated digital effects are noticable.
You must tell the story Of Night Skies which was a horror movie and Rick Baker did the effects. And his work was taken by the studio when ET story changed.
Gotta say the 20th anniversary edition is my favourite version.
There’s a scene where the boys are talking about their dad in the garage. Somebody’s listening in you can see the profile. I always thought that was Harrison Ford.
I used to be super scared of this movie as a kid!! But now it not only is my favorite movie ever, but it also has the best OST in any movie
For years I didn't watch it again; then the classical station was playing the theme and I decided it would be worth watching again just for the music; so I did and I got seriously addicted to it. Same with Close encounters.
saw ET special screening for the anniversary locally. they left the guns and all the CG shit out and it was glorious. when I heard Spielberg talking about how he wished the father in close encounters didnt do everything because a "family man" wouldn't do that.. give me a break. these guys had the money to decimate and ruin their films. Lucas with all his stupid ass CG additions (color grading and matte removal is fine..no problems). rant over, im pissed
Can you PLEASE do a video about the lost "Pancho Villa" film??
I liked this video it was fab
Cleeborb is ET's official name in Robot Chicken.
ET looks drunk on the thumbnail
I prefer watching the original 1982 version.
Bro im on the spectrum
Wait....your example of Elliot possibly being on the spectrum is him showing E.T. his Star Wars figures? Nearly every 10 year old kid in America in 1982 had, played with, and gleefully showed off their Star Wars figures 😂
No, it's him being an isolated weirdo, not taking social cues, drawing on the wall, and everything else in the film that shows him having ASD. Lining up his action figures is one example taken with a number of other examples.
@@ScooterinAB he was behaving that way because he was unaware he was empathically connecting with E.T. ...not because he was supposed to be autistic in the final cut. They un-sync during the medical scenes towards the end.
@@opinian1068 So ignoring that he's a misfit in the first parts of the movie, the point is that he learned how to better relate to people over the duration of the film (just as those with ASD can more consciously learn how to manage their behaviour). So them "unsyncing" at the end is just that. However, I don't think this is the case. I'd have to rewatch it, but his behaviour during the medical scenes still resonates as autistic.
What we'd need is a deep dive into this topic,. not a one-liner in a TH-cam video that isn't meant to be a deep dive. What this section of the video did was reveal that this was the plan. It isn't meant to tie in every part of the movie as proof.
@@ScooterinAB Yeah totally I see your point. He's not really a misfit he's just trying to fit in with older boys - as most young boys do - plus the entire family is in the aftermath a the patents separating. The dad is almost an invisible character in it. Spielberg's angle story-wise was a bit autobiographical in response to his own parents divorce. E.T. arrives when the family is super vulnerable. I think Elliot is totally normal. He's as curious and imaginative as any kid.
Agreed, it seems people are mis- or over-diagnosed and no one wants to admit it.
The E.T sequel was going to be really dark
War of the Worlds?
Not the sequel; his following movie. It wasn't meant to be an ET sequel.
hi
Do you know what would be great? If you showed the deleted scenes in full rather than just talking about them.
It really made me crack up when you said autistic person compared to an "able bodied" person lol. I think you meant neurotypical. You're clearly trying to be respectful though, no shade your way.
“The 1984 horror / comedy Christmas film” that came out in June.
Gotta get that summer movie money! 🤣😂
Hershey is an American company. M&Ms were actually invented by Bruce Murrie who was the son of the president of the Hershey's company. They were made with Hershey's chocolate during the war and it was until 1948 when Forrest Mars (the other M) bought out Murrie and became a competitor. Also I'm going to assume you mean Dungeon Master.
I think he said "ringmaster" or whatever because the film would have wanted to stay away from the Satanic Panic of D&D, and probably avoid dealing with licensing, since Gygax was a huge dick.
@@ScooterinAB Fair point. It's been awhile since I've seen the movie.
The CGI version is awefull.
This guy has the same problem as Minty.
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