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This is Berserker slander. Honestly, the worst Berserker has ever done to me is hit something that counterattacks with a wide-spread attack. If you set it up with a Thornlet and a Gaia Hammer, it does pretty good damage. Dragoon gets spears that are either highly situational or just plain weak. Its best weapons for the endgame are either super rare steals or the Holy Lance, which some of the more annoying enemies in the Interdimensional Rift are immune to or absorb. What's more, unlike Knight, Berserker and Dancer that get bonuses to battle power, they decided Dragoon's Jump should get a bonus to... multipliers. Oh and the kicker to all of this is that Dragoon can't use doublegrip with a spear. You know -- the TRADITIONALLY TWO-HANDED WEAPON.
"Let's make a class that specializes in dragon riding and dragon slaying. It'll even wear armor designed to look like a dragon." "That's awesome! Will it be really strong?" "That's the best part! It'll be one of the worst classes in the game!"
I love the Dragoon job visually, but I'm always a tad saddened that their gimmick is barely worthwhile. The only use I found for them was in Final Fantasy 3 3D Remake (might be true for the pixel remaster as well, I don't know yet) where you can jump with 3 Dragoons to guarantee your countering Monk actually gets hit. Since Counter is strong and multiple bosses can get countered several times per turn, it's actually kind of a decent use of the job. Provided they are fast enough.
Fun fact, at least in the snes version if the game, the man eater knife is programmed as a spear for jumping, and xdeath is considered human. So you could have made your life a lit easier lol
I'm looking forward to the Mystic Knight run. Sure they can just dish out basic damage with elemental blades but I seem to recall status enchants have guaranteed accuracy if the enemy isnt immune which might make for some possibly interesting strategy.
Dragoon is meant to be a tank class with a decent physical option, pair it with a more primary damage dealer like a Knight, Samurai, Berserker, hell even a Ninja and have a good method of keeping HP up and the dragoon can output serious consistant damage. This is kind of true to real life since spears are a great balance of defense and offense. Also, whoever drew Melusine and Calofisteri (and Barbariccia from FF4) was putting in a lot of detail for only using one foot to draw them.
All the jobs you listed absolutely trounce Dragoon in terms of damage output. Its not even close. Dragoon just doesnt do what it needs to do in these games.
@@BacklogBuster Oh yeah I never said it had a GOOD physical, this video actually reminded me that spears aren't as strong as I recall on the ps1 days. I just said it was decent since it's not concerned with attacks as much as it is tanking, since you're realistically not intended to set it to all four characters. I like playing around with them, in my current file with one point in strength difference Faris as a Dragoon is beating out Galuf in Samurai in terms of normal physical, and that's with a spear too.
In my only playthrough of this game (so far, I wanna replay it someday) that I did in 2022, I never touched Dragoons because I was having a blast with Knights, Samurai, Ninja and Rangers on my physical characters (Bartz and Lenna, the others were dedicated mages), and by the end of the game I was kinda feeling bad that I didn't use Dragoons, but now I see I wasn't missing out on anything interesting, good to know.
dragoon is kind of a weird selfish tank. good armor and shields plus the ability to hang out in the back row and jump to avoid all damage, but jump makes everyone else take more damage as a consequence.
@@BacklogBuster Worse jobs with which to solo you mean? I love dragoons, but for some reason always find them coming up short when I actually try to have one.
Personally, i wouldnt mind if you used a modded save file where every job starts out unlocked. That way the challenge actually starts much sooner, and could make things more interesting.
FF5 is my second favorite Final Fantasy after 6. I don't use Dragoon often as I have other classes I prefer so I was completely blind sided that theirs an anti jump ability lol.
Freya's alright. Her best niche is it's possible to get her endgame weapon near the beginning of Disc 3 and crush rest of the game with it. Also probably helps that FF9 mages have the best defense in the game so jumping doesn't really put anyone in danger.
it really feels like you were supposed to be able to choose physical or magic to specialize in as dragoon but they forgot and just left them with the nearly completely useless lance skill
Whenever I make a Dragoon class for TTRPGs I give them Lance (physical) and Breath Weapons (magical) so ppl can go either way. Would love to see Final Fantasy take this approach.
i love watching these. when i got anthology in the late 90s, i enjoyed 5's lack of plot and story compared to 6. and i still cant get into 6. but this game... something about it that just appeals to me more. your content has been awesome w/ this OP next to the "4 job fiesta" where you make due with what you are given and seeing how far you can take it, im humbled by the patience and work that goes into these videos i admire the dedication and the commentary has yet to be annoying or irritating (that is a compliment, it just doesnt come across when texting) me on the other hand? oh, i just completely lose my $hit in ff8 triple triad when the SAME rule fu¢ks me over AGAIN.
@@sertiana2512 that’s it isn’t it, they’ve never been better than passing grade (not counting the MMOs since they have lots of balance changes over their lifespan so dragoon will naturally do well sometimes)
12:50 I HATED that enemy as a kid. Every time I was in taht room I was in such a hurry to get out of it. Really the only enemy I remember from the game.
I'm watching these in reverse order, so I guess I'm nearing the end/beginning. I'm kinda hoping you do something like this for X-2 or Tactics...or III (that one has a job system, right? I've never actually played it). At least with X-2's new game plus feature, you can actually play through the game from the beginning with whatever dressphere. Unless, of course, you're one of those who doesn't like that game. Then I guess it wouldn't be too fun for you.
!Lance is magic base where dragon gets the -12 mag but its usefull on your mages. Dragoons would be better if there where more Spears or polearms like in ff4 or more skills like ff9, ffta.
Have you ever considered having multiple save files right before each crystal that way each challenger doesn't require you to play up to the point every time as a freelancer.
I wonder, does this mean the classes that have to equip the Bone Mail instantly mark them as bad classes since it seems most classes can finish bosses quick enough for statuses to not matter when they come up or are Neo Exdeath and you want to rush it down?
Most likely yes. Classes like Blue Mage and Chemist have dirty tricks behind their sleeve, while Black Mage has raw power to steamroll almost anything. Even Knight is a decent class for having Two Handed and good equipment support.
@@BacklogBuster you could make a new save file before each crystal and just start from there for each episode. Its all the same till each challenge starts
Answering your statement from the previous video. Dragoon is not the worst class every time it's been used. FF3, FF4, and FF6 called. FF3 is a speed runners best weapon, I've beaten the game in 3ish hours because of it. FF4 has Kain, who can equip a blood spear, making him nigh unkillable. Then we have FF6, which has TWO technical dragoons in Edgar, and Mog. These two are the only ones that can equip spears, and get access to the powerful jump and multi jump extension. Because it's str based, any point about 80 str which is easy to do starts hitting 9999 each hit, upwards to FOUR times. Making this the second strongest attack in the game next to two of Cyans 4 hit Bushido abilities.
@BacklogBuster also you inspired me to finally finish Final Fantasy 5. It was my first in the series, and I played it as a kid. There has been so much nostalgia and I'm now further in the game than I've ever been
I would suggest keeping a stock save for each of the latter crystal jobs, since you're just doing the same thing for each of them anyway. No sense wasting time playing the game from scratch when you can just start from the moment you pick the job. You can even redub older footage, nobody will know.
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11:43 - Dragoon Unlocked
I can't wait for the super exciting, and deep gameplay of the berserker.
Berserker is actually surprisingly interesting. You're just rooting for them to actually succeed.
@@veghesther3204yessss grind to 99 montage of like 70 level ups will be so much fun for him to record and edit and for us to watch
@@BacklogBusterTook like 20+ hours for this for DonYagamoth to even get in a position to try…
20 hours? Rookie numbers. SNES version took me over 100 hours to beat
My comment about how much fun recording and editing a level up montage taking Berserkers to 99 seems to have disappeared but I’m getting comment reply notifications :0
Man, I want more Job System games like Final Fantasy V or the Bravely series.
Square just needs to make a new pixel FF with a job system and it would sell like hot cakes. They're just too cowardly.
Ah yes, Dragoon, aka “At least it’s not Berserker”
This is Berserker slander. Honestly, the worst Berserker has ever done to me is hit something that counterattacks with a wide-spread attack. If you set it up with a Thornlet and a Gaia Hammer, it does pretty good damage.
Dragoon gets spears that are either highly situational or just plain weak. Its best weapons for the endgame are either super rare steals or the Holy Lance, which some of the more annoying enemies in the Interdimensional Rift are immune to or absorb. What's more, unlike Knight, Berserker and Dancer that get bonuses to battle power, they decided Dragoon's Jump should get a bonus to... multipliers.
Oh and the kicker to all of this is that Dragoon can't use doublegrip with a spear. You know -- the TRADITIONALLY TWO-HANDED WEAPON.
"Let's make a class that specializes in dragon riding and dragon slaying. It'll even wear armor designed to look like a dragon."
"That's awesome! Will it be really strong?"
"That's the best part! It'll be one of the worst classes in the game!"
being Lancer is suffering.
"Easiest Necrophobe so far" was not a phrase I expected from this run, given everything else up to that point.
>Dragooner
>let's *jump* right into it
God the cheesy commentary is amazing
As someone who mains Dragoon in Final Fantasy XIV before it was cool, I appreciate your dedication.
Kind of funny seeing Dragoon being a backline job
It's a good thing Jump ignores rows, otherwise FF5 dragoon would be much worse
@@sertiana2512 Kain's jump did so too, as all other instances of jump I can think of, we just didn't really notice in the moment.
@@silverauron7850 No, Kain's Jump is not backrow compatible
@@sertiana2512 Yes it is, al least it is in every version that I have played, which is all of them bar the "ff II" us release.
The Dancer run won't be so bad. No enemy has a resistance to **strikes pose** DISCO FEVER!
So that’s where Kain went after the events of FF4..
If I had to guess, I'd say that throwing an elixir at an undead would set them to critical hp. So throwing a second elixir would deal
Your dedication to this series is incredible. So excited to watch all of them
I love the Dragoon job visually, but I'm always a tad saddened that their gimmick is barely worthwhile. The only use I found for them was in Final Fantasy 3 3D Remake (might be true for the pixel remaster as well, I don't know yet) where you can jump with 3 Dragoons to guarantee your countering Monk actually gets hit. Since Counter is strong and multiple bosses can get countered several times per turn, it's actually kind of a decent use of the job. Provided they are fast enough.
Fun fact, at least in the snes version if the game, the man eater knife is programmed as a spear for jumping, and xdeath is considered human. So you could have made your life a lit easier lol
Im pretty sure maneater is Dancer/Freelancer only. I know I definitely grabbed it for Dancers.
@@BacklogBuster aaa, makes sense.
I'm looking forward to the Mystic Knight run. Sure they can just dish out basic damage with elemental blades but I seem to recall status enchants have guaranteed accuracy if the enemy isnt immune which might make for some possibly interesting strategy.
Dragoon is meant to be a tank class with a decent physical option, pair it with a more primary damage dealer like a Knight, Samurai, Berserker, hell even a Ninja and have a good method of keeping HP up and the dragoon can output serious consistant damage. This is kind of true to real life since spears are a great balance of defense and offense.
Also, whoever drew Melusine and Calofisteri (and Barbariccia from FF4) was putting in a lot of detail for only using one foot to draw them.
All the jobs you listed absolutely trounce Dragoon in terms of damage output. Its not even close. Dragoon just doesnt do what it needs to do in these games.
@@BacklogBuster Oh yeah I never said it had a GOOD physical, this video actually reminded me that spears aren't as strong as I recall on the ps1 days. I just said it was decent since it's not concerned with attacks as much as it is tanking, since you're realistically not intended to set it to all four characters. I like playing around with them, in my current file with one point in strength difference Faris as a Dragoon is beating out Galuf in Samurai in terms of normal physical, and that's with a spear too.
I'll say it again, you deserve to blow up. Great edits and a funny script, keep it up my guy.
👍
i sure hope this one doesn't drag on for too long
Do you mean, drag oon?
The Ninja Scroll comment hit me like the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction.
Can’t wait to see the under rated Geomancer run
Loving these videos, man. Even for these Earth crystals one, you keep the freelancer part entertaining. Keep it up :D
I didn't know Dragoons were...bad.
Been looking forward to this one, always love the Backlog Buster upload.
That's no random werewolf, it's Tsuze!
That Ninja Scroll joke was beautifully layered. 😂❤
In my only playthrough of this game (so far, I wanna replay it someday) that I did in 2022, I never touched Dragoons because I was having a blast with Knights, Samurai, Ninja and Rangers on my physical characters (Bartz and Lenna, the others were dedicated mages), and by the end of the game I was kinda feeling bad that I didn't use Dragoons, but now I see I wasn't missing out on anything interesting, good to know.
dragoon is kind of a weird selfish tank.
good armor and shields plus the ability to hang out in the back row and jump to avoid all damage,
but jump makes everyone else take more damage as a consequence.
I saw the title and immediately dreaded the upcoming frustration and self loathing.
There are worse jobs. Dragoon is mostly frustrating because Squaresoft forgot to put spears in the game.
@@BacklogBuster Worse jobs with which to solo you mean?
I love dragoons, but for some reason always find them coming up short when I actually try to have one.
@@reloadpsiDragoon offers no meaningful abilities to share with other classes, and their stats are pretty mediocre
@@sertiana2512 Exactly. Such a shame.
Personally, i wouldnt mind if you used a modded save file where every job starts out unlocked. That way the challenge actually starts much sooner, and could make things more interesting.
Oh wow! I tried Dragoon in FFV but never used it as a main class.
How can it suck so badly???!!
Did not...know Dragoon was bad...always one of my favorites in the series. especially in tactics.
I know, BB, just how you feel
You got to roll with the punches to get to what's real
Jumpman Jumpman Jumpman Jumpman
A dragoon...the sad knight who couldn't catch a break in this game
FF5 is my second favorite Final Fantasy after 6. I don't use Dragoon often as I have other classes I prefer so I was completely blind sided that theirs an anti jump ability lol.
Can't watch it yet, but I'll drop a like and let it play then watch later
i think the most Powerful and Useful Dragoon was Freya from IX.
Never got that far in 9
Freya's alright. Her best niche is it's possible to get her endgame weapon near the beginning of Disc 3 and crush rest of the game with it. Also probably helps that FF9 mages have the best defense in the game so jumping doesn't really put anyone in danger.
"the classic in and out" @22.34 got me
A bit late than usual me arriving also love your series bro keep up added I call this job land tanks on ff14
Nice video man .
becoming the "lord of the dance" will be an interesting run.
it really feels like you were supposed to be able to choose physical or magic to specialize in as dragoon but they forgot and just left them with the nearly completely useless lance skill
Whenever I make a Dragoon class for TTRPGs I give them Lance (physical) and Breath Weapons (magical) so ppl can go either way. Would love to see Final Fantasy take this approach.
Summoner is the one Im most looking forward to
i love watching these. when i got anthology in the late 90s, i enjoyed 5's lack of plot and story compared to 6.
and i still cant get into 6. but this game... something about it that just appeals to me more.
your content has been awesome w/ this OP
next to the "4 job fiesta" where you make due with what you are given and seeing how far you can take it, im humbled by the patience and work that goes into these videos
i admire the dedication and the commentary has yet to be annoying or irritating (that is a compliment, it just doesnt come across when texting)
me on the other hand? oh, i just completely lose my $hit in ff8 triple triad when the SAME rule fu¢ks me over AGAIN.
Wait a minute you REALLY just reused the same clip for the Freelancer part, same audio, same everything! ---Absolute time genius.
IM GONNA DO IT AGAIN TOO
@@BacklogBuster insert Goofy laugh.
Why is this in my feed and why do I HAVE to spend the next 43 minutes watching it.
You're a man of culture and taste of course.
Dragoon is so iconic yet so consistently terrible why
Petition Square-Enix to make them not bad. I'd sign it.
Kain was good in IV and Freya was good in IX
FF4 Kain is fine, but Rydia can nuke things faster than him.
@@sertiana2512 that’s it isn’t it, they’ve never been better than passing grade (not counting the MMOs since they have lots of balance changes over their lifespan so dragoon will naturally do well sometimes)
@@Bazzlieo Dragoons are overrated because of Kain and other iconic figjres, but gameplay-wise you can do things just fine without them
12:50
I HATED that enemy as a kid. Every time I was in taht room I was in such a hurry to get out of it. Really the only enemy I remember from the game.
I'm watching these in reverse order, so I guess I'm nearing the end/beginning. I'm kinda hoping you do something like this for X-2 or Tactics...or III (that one has a job system, right? I've never actually played it).
At least with X-2's new game plus feature, you can actually play through the game from the beginning with whatever dressphere. Unless, of course, you're one of those who doesn't like that game. Then I guess it wouldn't be too fun for you.
!Lance is magic base where dragon gets the -12 mag but its usefull on your mages. Dragoons would be better if there where more Spears or polearms like in ff4 or more skills like ff9, ffta.
I would have thought synchronized jumps would be better. But I guess it's no good without the weapons to back it up.
With dual wield and 8 dragon lances, a party of four dragoons could take Shinryu down in one turn.
Yes I did spend hours resetting and attempting to steal dragon lances from jura aevis to make the ultimate dragoon team.
also you can dual wield lances (how) but you can't two-hand them (even though you're supposed to use two hands for spears), wtf
Pity you can't get a javelin from the bears.
Who's that whackin it in my FFV?
Are you obsessed with FF 5?
No
Oh wow, I had no idea interceptor was a thing.
Have you ever considered having multiple save files right before each crystal that way each challenger doesn't require you to play up to the point every time as a freelancer.
Thats what I did here. I'm going to be doing pairs/triples depending on the job. There will be some singles though. Keeps the videos interesting.
@@BacklogBuster Is that why I saw you switching from Samurai to Dragoon? :P
I was expecting some Van Halen 😂
I dont think I've listened to Van Halen since I was in College.
@@BacklogBuster You'd probably get flagged for copyright anyway 🤣
That was rough but will the Dancer be worse. We shall find out soon.
The answer may surprise you.
Dancer's only shortcoming is their relatively low stats. But they're surprisingly strong, albeit a little random.
Might as well Jump.
If dragoon is a TCG deck, all their cards would be jump.
Dragon oooooooon
"Big Juump!"
I wonder, does this mean the classes that have to equip the Bone Mail instantly mark them as bad classes since it seems most classes can finish bosses quick enough for statuses to not matter when they come up or are Neo Exdeath and you want to rush it down?
Most likely yes. Classes like Blue Mage and Chemist have dirty tricks behind their sleeve, while Black Mage has raw power to steamroll almost anything. Even Knight is a decent class for having Two Handed and good equipment support.
Didn’t you just lay down samurai only. Damn you are getting quicker. Cant wait for rod breaker only i mean freelancer
It was like a week ago. I really need to up the pace of getting these out. I'd like to be done them sooner rather than later.
@@BacklogBuster you could make a new save file before each crystal and just start from there for each episode. Its all the same till each challenge starts
Answering your statement from the previous video. Dragoon is not the worst class every time it's been used. FF3, FF4, and FF6 called. FF3 is a speed runners best weapon, I've beaten the game in 3ish hours because of it. FF4 has Kain, who can equip a blood spear, making him nigh unkillable.
Then we have FF6, which has TWO technical dragoons in Edgar, and Mog. These two are the only ones that can equip spears, and get access to the powerful jump and multi jump extension. Because it's str based, any point about 80 str which is easy to do starts hitting 9999 each hit, upwards to FOUR times. Making this the second strongest attack in the game next to two of Cyans 4 hit Bushido abilities.
Feeling like a very sweaty cope session there chief.
I'm so ready for white mage only
its number 20 lmao. Youll be waiting awhile.
@BacklogBuster big sad, but I'll be watching and waiting very patiently
@BacklogBuster also you inspired me to finally finish Final Fantasy 5. It was my first in the series, and I played it as a kid. There has been so much nostalgia and I'm now further in the game than I've ever been
Let's go!
Does anybody else hear the song jump by the house of pain every time he says jump
Hey any possibility that the next run can either be GEOMANCER or CHEMIST. Both are my favoured jobs when I get to them. Thanks
Also can you do a FF12 the zodiac age challenge runs with all on job
FF5 Dragoon is 100% style and 0% substance
Marc M should make a song about bassy booty bombs
Its definitely in his wheelhouse.
Heres a question, what if one person mastered every job? I was always curious if it was possible to make one character a jack of all, master of all
Then they're super powerful with access to all abilities?
@@BacklogBuster so you CAN do that. Nice to know
oh lol, i return to play ff5 for 8th time and i found this videos xD
Dead rising remaster, time for a revival of the tale of Frank West.
Nah Im good.
@@BacklogBuster no worries. Do the content that you want. Keep up the good work.
Commentus Maximus
I wonder what job you will chose next time =D
Tell me please
no actually don't tell me, keep it a surprise !!
oh but I wanna know so bad x_x
I would suggest keeping a stock save for each of the latter crystal jobs, since you're just doing the same thing for each of them anyway. No sense wasting time playing the game from scratch when you can just start from the moment you pick the job. You can even redub older footage, nobody will know.
Thats what I did?
Why do you keep name changing Buttz to Bartz?
Its funny.
Is omniscent vulnerable to !Lance?
I'm pretty sure anything thats not !White, !Black, !Blue, !Time and !Summon triggers a return.
@@BacklogBusterMystic Knights can use silence blade to avoid Return
@@veghesther3204 As long as the attack hits, the silence will proc, so it doesn't matter that it only lasts one turn.
It's supposed to be an RPG, what role are the dragoons playing, the bloody victim?
Someone high up at Square was personally slighted by a Dragoon one time and will forever be there making them awful in every game they exist in.
Guess we're playing one of the mario rpgs today instead of ff5
Why don't you use mods/cheats to unlock the jobs from the start?
ah i see, playing the same game over and over again, sure breaking that backlog arent you
Well, I wanted to do this. Backlog Buster is coming back in a big way once this is done.
Wwwah... Wohoo... Yippeeeh! Hahaa!
Could you not have lanced omniscient to death to you know not fail the challenge.
No, Omniscient will counter anything thats not White, Black, Blue, Time and Summon magic with Return.
as with everything in games the cool looking class is bad.
But rat girl from 9 is cool
Dragoons are much better in FFT.
Necromancer playthrough lol
love this game1