This guy’s living the life overlanding around the American west in his “summer weeks.” Clearly put some TLC into this cool rig and a good sport for giving it a shot on this course.
I think the rear locker would’ve gotten you through. ATRAC is rad but has limitations. I recently got stuck in a spot where I needed a front locker. Winch got me through that spot. :-)
As a fellow T4R SR5 owner, I really appreciate the build on that rig. Nicely done! Goes to show the TFL course isn't as easy as the haters like to claim it is. Nice video from Case and Alex, btw. Keep up the great work guys.
I LOVE this series! Its so interesting to see what folks put into/onto their trucks to "make them their own". There is just a pride in ownership that these enthusiasts have that cant be matched.
Props for rocking the SR5 and standing by it through and through! Massive respect! Most impressive thing was perfectly bending that carrier back into place at the end
I know he needed that rear tire carrier to haul that big spare, but man. What a boat anchor. Really needs more of an aftermarket steel rear bumper with an integrated tire carrier. This one just destroys his departure angle.
Yeah, i still don't get the heavy bulky tent on top thing. My two man tent weighs 5 pounds, sets up in 10 minutes and doesnt cut my mileage by 20%. Plus if im staying at a campsite for a few days i dont have to pack it up when i go exploring for the day. If I'm in bear country, i can just sleep in back of my rig. I guess i just like simplicity but to each their own. Nice set up he has though.
Not to bash on the dude. It fits his need on his home turf then that’s awesome. But as you can tell here is a clear example of lockers before lights and unnecessary weight.
Nice set up and video!! We have a 2014 Trail 4Runner. We are Overlanders as well. A bit lighter without the rooftop tent drawers or spare tire carrier. Have rock sliders a front 12000 winch on a hitch mount, Redarc controller with dual Optima batteries with a EcoFlow Delta battery pack and 2 100 watt solar panels. ICECO fridge. We are a bit lighter and can remove the front hitch for approach angle. With the rear locker 3" OME lift and 33" Baja Boss A/T's we might be able to clear some of that mud. Would be interesting to try...
Picked up a '23 ORP last week, with only 4,000 miles (w/ KDSS). Tires, winch, ARB front locker is about all I need for my easy- to medium-level offroading.
I think those 34’s aired down would fit in the spare slot, give you more rear clearance. I couldn’t imagine using the at hitch tire carrier on some of these Colorado trails. I feel like I drag my trail hitch ALL THE TIME on trails here. The trailer hitch and bumper were an issue on China Wall a few weekends back. I’m already looking at rear frame chop high clearance custom bumpers because of how that weekend and my rear end went. Lol
Countercounterpoint lol. Keep the 34s and get an actual rear bumper with a tire carrier. Those hitch tire carriers are already so expensive it's not that much of a jump. Or just put the spare in your trunk if you have the space!
I have a 2020 4runner trd orp with the same exact lift. Great suspension. Also I have been running spider trax wheel spacers for over two years now and have been on all type of terrain and I have never had a problem with the spacers. Jst always toque to spec
33s might have been the better choice… and the tire in the back seems to get in the way quite a bit. The weight of the roof rack, drawers, ect really hurt the performance…But cool video and nice looking 4Runner.
Man, that well equipped 4runner SR5, however CBI Or C4 fab low pro front bumper (winch compatible) with integrated 30 inch rigid light bar, an A-pillar amber lights etc.. Will not only enhance the capability of the 4runner off the road. You can go places which are challenging for the rig with the current setup.
Your title say "Skip the TRD" but your video says otherwise... LOL! If that guy wanted to have any chance, he should have lower the tire pressure way more. On such big tires, going from 36 psi to 20 doesn't move the needle. In that case, he should have been able to come out of that mud with A-trac.
Another thing I want to point out is those two front hooks aren’t strength rated for recoveries. Those two hooks are primarily used to tie down your vehicle to a tow truck.
Want to see TFL test tall and wide tires vs tall and skinny tires. From what I’ve scene looks like tall and skinny tires are the advantage but not people run them because of how it looks.
Tires are too wide. Adding spacer will poke them out which changes scrub radius which requires more cutting - plenty of information on TH-cam on this. In addition, narrower tires will cut through mud better.
That's what I was thinking as soon as he mentioned the size. Wide tires look cool, but the 4Runner doesn't like them. Pizza cutters are the way to go on these.
@cameronj9890 Yup... dont' know what the heck WW-wf8tu is even talking about. A common sized set of pizza cutters for this truck is 285/55/17 and 280/55/17 which are 34" and 33" narrow. It effectively is the same diameter as the tires the 4runner in the video has. If anything the pizza cutters will rub less. just cause you go skinni doesn't mean you need to go larger in diameter than the guys running fatter tires. and not to mention the benefits in gas milage opposed to the fatter tires.
Interesting I think you proved the point and reason why people who go off roading buy the trd off road. .he learned you could see that first mud drop the rear the right tire was not even moving the lockers would done it .
Have you taken your rig up to the mountain mine in Kingman Wash? It was the first thing I tried when I got my 4R venture this year. I did the mine run as a newbie with zero experience but it was super cool. You can dive up to and turn around right at the mine but try not to drive too far past it. The turn-around space past it gets smaller so If you decide to try it yourself please be careful take your time & enjoy! To ensure you know... don't drive past the mine at the top of the hill.
Surprised those tire fit, sheesh. For a 34 tho, maybe look at 285/75R17 instead of spacers...but you just bought tires so not really the best option now, would have been good earlier. Have that size in my truck and was a great choice, especially with a matching spare
is going slow through obstacles like this more of a deliberate test? ive been wheeling all my life, and I would NEVER go that slow thru some of these parts just crawling like that...
Probably time for mud tires and a locker. The problem with traction control, it doesn't like mud or snow. There are just some things a locker can do a lot better.
Contact Overland Pacific Northwest. They are based out of OR. And they got their TRD's dialed in. See if they would be interested in coming out and give your ranch a go. They got the steel bumpers, winches, lockers and a lift. Driving the TRD's with all that, they tackle most things effortlessly.
Great SR5 video, The build is not quite done. Add some Off Road tires less air & try wheeling with a pair of Maxtrax will get you out of some ugly snags. Looking forward to your next Adventure!!
The Magic of SR5 , and all 4runners that comes as 4x4 have A-Track , this A-Track does it all , you no need any other thing such as locker or etc on the Mordred off-road . I am running Ironman 4x4 and these are the best ,and i am running only 2 inch lift , but always remember more then 2 inch is not good for road dynamics and you no need upper control arm at all .
@@JAMESWUERTELE it's common on the forums with people who put a lot of miles on. The front transfer case doesn't like the angle and wears out one of the bearings prematurely.
I have a 94 Toyota 4runner SR5 4×4 offroad V6 with a 5 speed manual transmission I would like to try out or trails out and I like your video it was very good I live in marianna Florida and Pensacola Florida too my name is William Hughes
Nothing they’ve tested has made the mud pit look easy thus far. I think a jeep on 37’s was the only thing to come out the other side without assistance.
Bizarre to me to spend all that money on lifts, tents and refrigerators but not add the one thing that actually helps you get unstuck? ATRAC is great don’t get me wrong but it doesn’t work in mud.
SR5 saves a TON of money to buy-- and anything needed can be added and that way you DON"T get all the B..sh..t electronic hogwash to deal with and can drive your OWN truck without dumbass robotic assist!!! Lockers are easy to add, and easy to get. no biggie. I'd SUPERCHARGE it too.. and STILL save a ton over the TURD (trd)... and cheaper to maintain that way..
Guess guy needs better tires and arb dual locker setup. And absolutely a Warren 10k synthetic line winch. Perfect vehicle and setup all the way around! I love my 4th gen 4 runner SR5 4x4.
This guy’s living the life overlanding around the American west in his “summer weeks.” Clearly put some TLC into this cool rig and a good sport for giving it a shot on this course.
I think the rear locker would’ve gotten you through. ATRAC is rad but has limitations. I recently got stuck in a spot where I needed a front locker. Winch got me through that spot. :-)
Love that he's rocking the SR5. Ive hung with many in mine when i take my off roading trips in Nov with buddies in Rubicons, LCs, and pickups...
As a fellow T4R SR5 owner, I really appreciate the build on that rig. Nicely done! Goes to show the TFL course isn't as easy as the haters like to claim it is. Nice video from Case and Alex, btw. Keep up the great work guys.
I LOVE this series! Its so interesting to see what folks put into/onto their trucks to "make them their own". There is just a pride in ownership that these enthusiasts have that cant be matched.
Kudos to the owner for being a sport. He obviously built his 4runner for a different purpose and yet willing to go through the deal... 👍
Very nice rig. Weight is the big drawback in any off-road rig. As far as lockers you can add aftermarket anytime (front and rear)
Didn't seem like A-Trac was kickin in. Time to get a rear locker. Getting an aftermarket locker on an SR5 is a lot cheaper than a TRD.
It doesn’t look like they offer a-trac until you get into the off-road model, at least that’s what I see from Toyotas website.
It was the tires, not A-Trac that failed. He had plenty of wheel on the ground, just no traction.
@@Mr_Kirk_ At 11:47, you can see that the right rear wheel is not spinning. And at 18:18, it appears the left front isn't spinning.
Props for rocking the SR5 and standing by it through and through! Massive respect! Most impressive thing was perfectly bending that carrier back into place at the end
I know he needed that rear tire carrier to haul that big spare, but man. What a boat anchor. Really needs more of an aftermarket steel rear bumper with an integrated tire carrier. This one just destroys his departure angle.
All the weight was the real handicap
Yeah, i still don't get the heavy bulky tent on top thing. My two man tent weighs 5 pounds, sets up in 10 minutes and doesnt cut my mileage by 20%. Plus if im staying at a campsite for a few days i dont have to pack it up when i go exploring for the day. If I'm in bear country, i can just sleep in back of my rig. I guess i just like simplicity but to each their own. Nice set up he has though.
Not to bash on the dude. It fits his need on his home turf then that’s awesome. But as you can tell here is a clear example of lockers before lights and unnecessary weight.
Or real tires...
@@andrewm.4168I thought Toyo open country were well known?
What about a winch before locker?
@@JC-cv3upusually those two go hand in hand 🤙🏻
A nice rig for overlanding, but a bit heavy for mud. Great video!
Owner here, appreciate it! Yeah, didn’t build it for hard wheeling in the mud, wanted an overland rig. 👍🏻
@@IAMTRASHMAN267It's not built exclusively for mud, but it looks like a great overlander.
Too heavy and too top heavy. Roof rack not safe, overloaded . Needs some traction boards at least if he has none.
Kudos for taking his rig and finding the limits…in a controlled environment…..build…test not brake…and keep on building👊
Nice set up and video!! We have a 2014 Trail 4Runner. We are Overlanders as well. A bit lighter without the rooftop tent drawers or spare tire carrier. Have rock sliders a front 12000 winch on a hitch mount, Redarc controller with dual Optima batteries with a EcoFlow Delta battery pack and 2 100 watt solar panels. ICECO fridge. We are a bit lighter and can remove the front hitch for approach angle. With the rear locker 3" OME lift and 33" Baja Boss A/T's we might be able to clear some of that mud. Would be interesting to try...
Picked up a '23 ORP last week, with only 4,000 miles (w/ KDSS). Tires, winch, ARB front locker is about all I need for my easy- to medium-level offroading.
Had those same tires on an F-150. They are Scary on snowy mud in the mountains!
Gotta hold that atrac around 2k rpms for a bit for it to figure it out.
I think those 34’s aired down would fit in the spare slot, give you more rear clearance. I couldn’t imagine using the at hitch tire carrier on some of these Colorado trails. I feel like I drag my trail hitch ALL THE TIME on trails here. The trailer hitch and bumper were an issue on China Wall a few weekends back. I’m already looking at rear frame chop high clearance custom bumpers because of how that weekend and my rear end went. Lol
Sadly a 33 is the biggest tire you can fit in the stock 4Runner spare location. But agreed on the hitch carrier not helping
Counterpoint, the gains in 34s over 33s don’t overcome the rear overhang with the rear tire carrier.
Countercounterpoint lol. Keep the 34s and get an actual rear bumper with a tire carrier. Those hitch tire carriers are already so expensive it's not that much of a jump. Or just put the spare in your trunk if you have the space!
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I have a 2020 4runner trd orp with the same exact lift. Great suspension. Also I have been running spider trax wheel spacers for over two years now and have been on all type of terrain and I have never had a problem with the spacers. Jst always toque to spec
33s might have been the better choice… and the tire in the back seems to get in the way quite a bit. The weight of the roof rack, drawers, ect really hurt the performance…But cool video and nice looking 4Runner.
4wheeling in Sandals. Hard Core.
well done rig. looks great. i will keep my lockers thanks. also it helps to have a set of 34x10.50/17 swampers on a spare set of oem wheels.
Man, that well equipped 4runner SR5, however CBI Or C4 fab low pro front bumper (winch compatible) with integrated 30 inch rigid light bar, an A-pillar amber lights etc.. Will not only enhance the capability of the 4runner off the road. You can go places which are challenging for the rig with the current setup.
Your title say "Skip the TRD" but your video says otherwise... LOL! If that guy wanted to have any chance, he should have lower the tire pressure way more. On such big tires, going from 36 psi to 20 doesn't move the needle. In that case, he should have been able to come out of that mud with A-trac.
Another thing I want to point out is those two front hooks aren’t strength rated for recoveries. Those two hooks are primarily used to tie down your vehicle to a tow truck.
They held up fine.
@@Offshore1977
You were yanking on them pretty hard! Maybe their stronger than everyone thinks! You may have just proved everyone wrong 😂
For how long?
Want to see TFL test tall and wide tires vs tall and skinny tires. From what I’ve scene looks like tall and skinny tires are the advantage but not people run them because of how it looks.
Low range doesn't do too good in mud, you need momentum.
Oregon in the TFL house let’s go!
This is proof that a locker is something that you would rather have and not need than need and not have.
Sounds expensive for something you don’t actually need to do most trials in the state.
Love the 4Runner content
Tires are too wide. Adding spacer will poke them out which changes scrub radius which requires more cutting - plenty of information on TH-cam on this. In addition, narrower tires will cut through mud better.
That's what I was thinking as soon as he mentioned the size. Wide tires look cool, but the 4Runner doesn't like them. Pizza cutters are the way to go on these.
Nice set up especially the Fridge and power unit
I prefer narrow tyres
Narrow tires have their place. But when rigs like this already have rubbing issues, the height becomes a factor.
@cameronj9890 Yup... dont' know what the heck WW-wf8tu is even talking about. A common sized set of pizza cutters for this truck is 285/55/17 and 280/55/17 which are 34" and 33" narrow. It effectively is the same diameter as the tires the 4runner in the video has. If anything the pizza cutters will rub less. just cause you go skinni doesn't mean you need to go larger in diameter than the guys running fatter tires. and not to mention the benefits in gas milage opposed to the fatter tires.
@@pyronic120120I'm not sure you understand how metric tire sizes work. The 285 is the width in mm. The 50 and 55 is that percentage of that width.
You guys serve up some serious humble pie!
I'd hate to see the aftermath of an accident when the driver's knee slams into that CB radio/bracket.
Interesting I think you proved the point and reason why people who go off roading buy the trd off road. .he learned you could see that first mud drop the rear the right tire was not even moving the lockers would done it .
I have a trd off road however I have also had the sr5 and agree it’s all you need
I love the underdog. Keep building and adding my friend. Little bites at a time, and before you know it, it'll be a monster.
Have you taken your rig up to the mountain mine in Kingman Wash? It was the first thing I tried when I got my 4R venture this year. I did the mine run as a newbie with zero experience but it was super cool. You can dive up to and turn around right at the mine but try not to drive too far past it. The turn-around space past it gets smaller so If you decide to try it yourself please be careful take your time & enjoy! To ensure you know... don't drive past the mine at the top of the hill.
Weird, I only had lateral slides when I had Toyo AT3 tires, but zero slip on my Cooper STT Pro lol.
Nice build, cool dude, but really surprising to not see a winch on there. It’s the most important recovery tool.
Surprised those tire fit, sheesh. For a 34 tho, maybe look at 285/75R17 instead of spacers...but you just bought tires so not really the best option now, would have been good earlier. Have that size in my truck and was a great choice, especially with a matching spare
Nice truck...that course is tough but you still took a good shot at it.. that muds pretty deep in some areas
You'll obliterate your steering rack eventually with those 34s. Get rid of the drawers. 4runner is already a$$ heavy and those are too much weight
I need to take my 4Runner there.
What kind of MPG does a 3” lifted 4Runner with 34s get?
Rear diff locker needed ?
It's all the stickers. Added so much weight in stickers it sunk
Lol I guess that locker might have came in handy.
This is why I never talk down on things that work.
That’s a really nice rig the way it is. That’s a tough course, not something I’d attempt at an overlanding trip anyway.
How much would a traction board have helped in these situations?
Honda pioneers are badass. Had one on my land for years, doing similar recoveries.
I had the same size and tire on my Power wagon. They were garbage offroad. Gone back to BFG's.
As much hate as KO2s get, I’ve never though “if only I had a better tire”.
Good vidjéo, cool rig and an excellent owner with a good sense of humour🤙
“The locker sure is nice….”😂
is going slow through obstacles like this more of a deliberate test? ive been wheeling all my life, and I would NEVER go that slow thru some of these parts just crawling like that...
Boys and their toys. LUV it !
Probably time for mud tires and a locker. The problem with traction control, it doesn't like mud or snow. There are just some things a locker can do a lot better.
Contact Overland Pacific Northwest. They are based out of OR. And they got their TRD's dialed in. See if they would be interested in coming out and give your ranch a go. They got the steel bumpers, winches, lockers and a lift. Driving the TRD's with all that, they tackle most things effortlessly.
This truck is cool, would be nice to see compared to a lightweight / unmodified Pro 4R
Great SR5 video, The build is not quite done. Add some Off Road tires less air & try wheeling with a pair of Maxtrax will get you out of some ugly snags. Looking forward to your next Adventure!!
Awesome sr5 content! Need more!
Well done! And quite a nice 4Runner!
Guess you guys David to post a "1 locker required" sign
Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸, Chase I want to run my Tremor Maverick.
Best truck ever!
You guys should give out patches and stickers
Those ditches at the ranch are stupid. They only serve to damage vehicles they dont prove anything. Fix them a bit.
Oregon in the house
The problem with a 4runner is you have to live with it. 13mpg on the highway with bigger tires and a rooftop tent gets expensive.
Man. Lockers or no, Tommy’s demise seems to eat any suv or truck without mud tires
What is a black ring on the middle finger mean?
I have ADHD. I keep it on for times when I just need to keep my hands busy. How I stopped biting my fingernails.
mudding with flipflops only in Oragen
The Magic of SR5 , and all 4runners that comes as 4x4 have A-Track , this A-Track does it all , you no need any other thing such as locker or etc on the Mordred off-road .
I am running Ironman 4x4 and these are the best ,and i am running only 2 inch lift , but always remember more then 2 inch is not good for road dynamics and you no need upper control arm at all .
And you ruin your suspension downward travel. Always 2" or less
Haha. Beauty job on the carrier. Loved that.
SC and lockers with a long range tank and let’s fkn Goooooooo
I heard the 4runners have major issues with the front diff or the transfer case when you lift it.
Are you sure about that
@@JAMESWUERTELE it's common on the forums with people who put a lot of miles on. The front transfer case doesn't like the angle and wears out one of the bearings prematurely.
@@paulm1237 they don’t but sure 👍🏻
I think weight was his greatest drawback. Remove several hundred pounds and it would have walked it through.
If you want snow performance you need duratracs, tires was your problem
Too much weight for technical 4wheeling. Better tire option may have made the difference.
Sandals!?!? No….
I like to live the Jesus lifestyle
Do you guys ever run Jeeps through this course ?
I’d like to see a stock Sahara with tires and Willy’s to compare
The last vehicle to make it through was a Jeep Gladiator on 37's I believe. I don't think anything stock has made it through everything.
@joelnichols9055 yep your correct, didn't they have 2 that day in the video, can't remember
It was the Gladiator and an LJ @@kylefrey9280
trail damage?
Needs lockers
I have a 94 Toyota 4runner SR5 4×4 offroad V6 with a 5 speed manual transmission I would like to try out or trails out and I like your video it was very good I live in marianna Florida and Pensacola Florida too my name is William Hughes
That course is beyond easy...
Nothing they’ve tested has made the mud pit look easy thus far. I think a jeep on 37’s was the only thing to come out the other side without assistance.
Idk why but the owner of the 4Runner reminds me of Sal from Impractical Jokers or is it just me.
Bizarre to me to spend all that money on lifts, tents and refrigerators but not add the one thing that actually helps you get unstuck? ATRAC is great don’t get me wrong but it doesn’t work in mud.
Sigh. Nobody knows how ifs works. Dont go above a 2" lift
SR5 saves a TON of money to buy-- and anything needed can be added and that way you DON"T get all the B..sh..t electronic hogwash to deal with and can drive your OWN truck without dumbass robotic assist!!! Lockers are easy to add, and easy to get. no biggie. I'd SUPERCHARGE it too.. and STILL save a ton over the TURD (trd)... and cheaper to maintain that way..
Not interested in David's foley catheter. Lol. Now if you are running David's Folly, that's a different story
Guess guy needs better tires and arb dual locker setup. And absolutely a Warren 10k synthetic line winch. Perfect vehicle and setup all the way around! I love my 4th gen 4 runner SR5 4x4.
This 4Runner is pretty much a write off after this trail. It is too advance for a stock vehicle.
This is exactly why I bought an Xterra over a 4runner and saved money.
Did he really just say mt means max traction? 😂
2 wheel peel
I hate mud...........