ENGINE FIRE shortly after takeoff. Atlas Air Boeing 747 returns to Miami with MAYDAY. Real ATC
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- THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
18-JAN-2024. An Atlas Air Boeing 747-8 (B748), registration N859GT, performing flight GTI95 / 5Y95 from Miami International Airport, FL (USA) to San Juan Luis Munoz Marin International Airport (Puerto Rico) after departure, about at 3000 feet, declared MAYDAY, reported engine number 2 fire and requested return back to the airport of departure. After landing the airplane vacated the runway and stopped on taxiway for inspection.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Description of situation
00:17 Initial climb after takeoff
00:38 MAYDAY, engine fire. The airplane returns back to Miami
01:37 Engine number two is out
04:14 The pilots contact Tower controller
04:38 Landing. Communications on the ground at Miami International
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Very good communication by the pilot and the ATC. The pilot did an excellent job in this situation.
Very calm too
A little soft on the 5 hours and 5 souls on board by ATC - took a repeat - probably had stuff going on in the tower.
@@randominternet5586 agreed. there were several repeated questions.
@@randominternet5586 Took a repeat since it is rare a 747 only has 5 souls onboard
@@targetmann100ify it's a freight airline, I'm sure ATC knows that based on the call sign too
Glad to hear a proper mayday call for once
The phraseology was very recently changed in the US. Until about 2 years ago, MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY was not how American crews were trained to declare. We were taught to say we are declaring an emergency. The emphasis in my recurrent training has been on using the mayday mayday call per ICAO standards, which the rest of the world follows.
@@cflyin8 Good to know there's a push to change that
It was 2/3 proper!!!
Cool, calm. collected. If only the news reported the story in the same way.
Not calm, faking it. lol
I love how the media is reporting AIRCRAFT CATCHES ON FIRE
i wish they would, but people who don’t know much about aviation would have trouble understanding but i think it would be clear enougb
Pilot: yeah we had an incident
American media: AIRCRAFT EXPLODES 💥!!!!!!!!!
I am telling you those pilots are freaking out... they are not calm but if they want to stay alive they have to communicate properly. just because someone sounds calm does not mean they are.
Calm and organized by both ATC and the 74. Nice job all
Regardless if people are wondering whether “74 Gear Kelsey” is flying, these pilots were true professionals from the audio heard!!👍🏽🇺🇸
I came here to see if anyone else thought it was him.
Didn't sound like him@@sammoore6136 . Will be interesting to see if he covers it.
@@sammoore6136 me too. Didn't sound like him, but then the accent left me ????
My son is an Atlas captain. Very professional crew and ATC
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Does he know Kelsey Hughes From 74Gear? He recently got his upgrade to Captain.
@@KevinWindsor1971 No, he doesn’t know him
Does he ever fly in/out of Huntsville? I see Atlas 747s over there at the cargo terminal fairly often. I can usually (just) hear them taking off if the house is quiet enough and they're departing from 36R. Those and the UPS 757s seem to make the most noise.
@@philipstaite4775 Years ago he did for a short time
The media blaming Boeing is insane because Boeing doesn't make engines.
If you sh*t on yourself enough times people will eventually begin to simply assume the foul odor in the room is coming from you. It is unfortunate but also the current reality for Boeing.
And also they don,t know how many engines exploded on the A380... indeed it is the engines manufacturer not Boeing or Airbus.
You lost me when you said "media." LOL
Yeah the "media" need to rebuild their credibility. So sleezy at this point.
There is a difference between reality and optics. The reality is that it was a GE engine that so happened to be mounted on a Boeing jet. The optics are everything Boeing has done in since 2018 oscillates between negligence and incompetence.
When I pulled that audio, i was just so amazed how calm everyone was, and stayed that way.
*For those commenting on "ATC should leave them alone", A) this is a compressed time video, B) information is needed/required, and C) crew can tell ATC if they need time to set things before communicating.*
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No, no, NO.....Remember the 3 tasks and they are always in order. Aviate, Navigate and Communicate. They would give ATC a 'standby' if they were too busy to communicate. They were heavy into the task of changing from climb-out procedures, to approach and landing ones. I wonder if they had another pilot as a dead head, that may have helped out. 5 souls onboard makes it likely.
@@bugsysdadenterprises *why are you saying 'no no no'? My point C tells what you said so just scratching my head but not really caring*
I goofed on reading your comment. I have no clue why I wrote no, no, no. Indeed your point C is absolutely correct. Apologies, I guess another day of Alzheimer's goes into the books...LOL . 😞
@@bugsysdadenterprises A dollar for every occasion where I had to redo something I wrote would make me a very rich raccoon.
Impressive calmness & communication between both Pilots & ATC. Sounds like @74Gear Kelsey on the radio from 1:45. Happy to see everyone got back safely.
I was wondering if he was on the flight. Not sure if that is his voice or not though.
It's a flight bound for South America, and Kelsey's flight vlogs are usually flights bound to South America
The picture of professionalism all around. Not a hint of panic. Sounded like folks with a high degree of training and confidence.
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Nice to have four engines😊
Robots with 0% emotions. First I though it was a conversation between androids.
He even reminds them its "0"95 heavy instead of them calling him 95 heavy lol
Really good job done by the atc and the pilots quite calm and providing all the help...it doesn't get better 👍🏼
I'm sorry what? ATC with repeat questions, pestering about more fuel questions even after getting told the engine fire is still ongoing and then the use of non standard phraseology necessitating repeat questions and time wasted on talking plus giving the entire METAR in response to the question regarding temperature??? How in the hell is that great job by the ATC? You would never ever get such a poor performance by ATC in Europe. Ever.
@@markor2476he asked for field conditions if you listened properly. And little do you know he was actually still guiding other airplanes to the ground as well while dealing with this emergency. Juggling lots of things at the same time, coordinating for fire fighters to be there for them on the ground
@@danilocastillo5714 chill bro let him think whatever he/she wants 😂
@@danilocastillo5714 He asked for wind and then for temp, not the whole METAR
@@markor2476he literally said “say wind AND field conditions for Giant 95 heavy” quoted lol yall don’t listen or pay attention
These pilots are a credit to their company so cool and professional in a very dangerous situation.
Interesting: the pilot called MAYDAY MAYDAY and ATC reacted to it immediately and without question. Compare this to the countless instances of pilots saying "We're declaring an emergency...", only for ATC to respond "Say again..."
Exactly. I say this every time.
Yep, there's really good reasons by MAYDAY x3 is ICAO standard
They flew over my building last night and so I am especially happy that all went well.
"Mayday, Mayday". See how easy and beautiful that was?
No, "mayday" shouldn't really be used here. Pan Pan would be more appropriate. A mayday call implies the plane is in serious danger, going down, and needs all available resources now. A 74 popping an engine isn't really that big of deal, especially fairly light. I don't know where pilots in the US got trained to call mayday for every little emergency but it has caused major issues when having smaller "urgency" situations everywhere else in the world. Using a mayday everywhere else brings all ATC to a halt, all hands on deck for a crashing airplane. They kind of pissed when they scramble everything for a what should have been a "pan pan" urgency call.
Guess some will never be happy. 🤣
@@bradskis81ummmm. Popping an engine? It was actively on fire....What do you fly?
@@thud9797 Well, not me.. I could give two shits. Just recommend using the correct phraseology when operating anywhere else in the world. I guess the people who aren't happy and that do have an issue with it are the governments and aviation authorities in numerous other countries around the world. They've all sent multiple notices and threats of huge fines to multiple US carriers who improperly throw out the old mayday call for a minor issue, shutting down their airports and airspace for something minor. That's all I'll say about it.
@@tpspc03 MD-11
Congratulations to everybody who made a safe landing possible
Wow, sounded very professional by both ATC and the aircrew! Nicely handled!
Professional pilots and controllers. You can’t and don’t get better.
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wow, you can tie a ribbon on this tape. calm, accurate and to the point.
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This same aircraft has had to return to land immediately after takeoff 3 times in the past few months. NOT normal.
For anyone wondering this was not the final 747 built as the final one is registered as N863GT and the one in the video is N859GT however it is the exact same aircraft model.
The new presidential planes won't be the final 747s?
@@AnuraniaNope. They are actually older by a few years.
Just for clarification, Atlas did receive the last 747 built.
@@gamechanger835Older than what. Read his comment again.
@@RLTtizMEOlder than the last 747s ever built
Heard some sub standard emergencies lately, this was not one of them. Great job by both pilots and ATC and good use of actually saying / declaring mayday.
Wow amazed at how professional they are communicating like just another day at the office!
Cool , Professional Airmanship and good ATC Coordination !!! Excellent Job Guys !!!
Wonder if Kelsy from 74 gear was on board? I'm sure he'll make a video on this one.
I was actually just thinking that kinda sounds like Kelsey at times I'm half tempted to message him and ask him.
@@alexdavidson56 you should contact him and ask...
One of the voices definitely sounds like Kelsey @74gear Maybe we’re hearing the stress?
Captain Kelsy versus an engine explosion... Kinda sounds like him.
Kinda of sounds like @74Gear, but I'm would say it's not. Different pitch in the voice. I'm sure we're either right or wrong, but I'm sure he will upload something on his channel/instagram regarding this incident 😊 happy weekend y'all
And that, is how professionals operate. Absolute respect to the crew who clearly worked the issue and got the job done. 👏👏👏👏👏
Kelsey? That you?
It sure sounds like him. Like really sounds like him at times
My dear, what a profesional pilot/captain
Just saw on news and I KNEW you would gave this! Thank you...
👍 Thank you
LoL I had the exact same thought.
Fire in engine is always serious, but I think it helps keeping calm knowing you still have 3 engines left.
yep, but in some situations, it may be required to shut the RWY down... or close the airport itself until inspection + excess fuel is cleaned up from tarmac.
Most times, Tower will also assign a private call sign if Pilot and crew need to coordinate next steps with Airport Fire & Rescue after landing. Sometimes, they will also ask if additional medical assistance will be needed at the gate... such as 🚑
Second half sounds like Mr 74Gear.
What's ironic about people wondering whether it was Kelsey flying or not is that just a few days after this incident he posted an Instagram reel of him flying N858GT, a Polar Air 747-8 (Polar is a subsidiary of Atlas) and the aircraft involved is N859GT. Kinda makes it unlikely that he was the one flying since he was flying for Polar around the time, but if it was him and it's still possible that it was him, then it gives him alot more credibility.
Viral debrief………..coming up.
Do you think it sounds like him? I feel like it sounds 70% like him so not sure but several people have pointed out it does sound like Kelsey so hmm
@@instant_mintI think maybe a stressed but handling it well Kelsey? There seem to be two separate voices, making the radio calls from the plane.
@@viridimontes It is very common in an emergency to have the first officer be pilot flying and also handle the radios, while the captain does all the coordination work necessary
He needed to return for snacks.😂
@@viridimontes hmm maybe. I thought the enunciation of certain words didn't sound exactly like him but I guess it could be just the stress. Certainly possible it could be him. Gonna be interesting to see
Glad all are ok. Solid queen
There's a video of this! Someone saw this plane from the ground and recorded a 15-20 second clip on TikTok. Lots of large sparks shooting out the back of the engine
No worries - those sparks were likely just remnants of compressor and/or turbine blades.😟
Captain sound like Kelsey from 74 Gear?
Who else here’s first thought was “I wonder if that was Kelsey from 74Gear”?
I was too. I wonder if he'll comment on this mishap.
it sounds like him
It does sound like him
Wow, such a non-event. Super professionals.
The video of the engine on fire while flying was impressive
Cool as a cucumber. Nice job crew!
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Awesome job amigos!!!!
Very calm focused
Does this sound like Kelsey?
Southern Hospitality at its best. Listening to ATC is like talking to a buddy. Don't even try asking the same question twice up here.
Pilot stayed so calm because he has 3 engines left to fly that plane
Solid content
Calm and professional. “Oh, by the way, Mayday, Mayday, we have a fire”.
Really good job 🤩😍🥰
I work at Atlas, great company. Great pilot group and one of the best kept secrets in the industry if you can manage the time away from home. These guys nailed it and I'm not remotely surprised.
I didn't know half your fleet was 747. Atlas is the largest operator of 747 with 54 in service. Amazing.
Good job Atlas Air. One of your shortest sorties yet!
Massive respect 🫡🔝😎 ✈️ 👨✈️ 👨💼
Everyone handled it so well
Pilots are rock stars
That pilot was phenomenal in his recall and professionalism.
The video of the plane in the air on fire is pretty freightning. Glad they made it back to the airport ok!
That's not an engine failure. That's a rapid unscheduled disassembly.
the video of it circling back to MIA looked scary for a bit. Glad it wasn't worse.
Professionalism at its best from all involved here.
I'll add my 2 cents here. THAT is how professionals aviate and communicate.😁 The FO was calm enough when changing freqs to give the controller a 'good night'. Of course the media jerks are quick to point out that it is a Boeing aircraft. They are clueless and probably couldn't tell you what that jet uses for fuel.
most planes use Diesel
I guess a great thing about a 747, if you lose one engine, you got 3 more! Well, assuming the fire remains isolated and controlled that is!
text book comms, i like it!
Aviate ,Communicate, navigate
If pilots can be this calm with the aircraft literally on fire, no need to panic passengers😂
Engine fires are not that big of a deal. If everything works right once you pull the fire handle the fires out. The plane can easily fly on 3 engines. A more scary incident is when the engine falls apart or has an uncontained failure. Those often create enormous aerodynamic drag and serious flying issues for the crew.
its a cargo plane
Cargo don’t complain
@@davidpearson3304 lmao
What a great controller.
Would be cool if we could sync the cellphone video to the timing of the radio.
So calm... First thought is "had they seen the video of the fire, they wouldn't be as calm," but then I realized it's the innate character developed.
Anyone know why he asked for the temperature?
Afternoon all.
Almost got the Mayday call correct.
Please don't be Kelsey from 74Gear was my first thought.
On takeoff there is a lot going on on the cockpit already, an emergency on takeoff is a lot for the pilots to handle and procedures to follow… it’ll be nice is ATC gave pilots room to work and go trough procedures instead of asking them how many pounds and fuel time they have on board 10 times,, when they clearly took off 3 mins ago heading for a 3 hour flight,,, absolutely unnecessary and putting more stress on pilots
my be tough going through life being so stupid , comms are not real time
@@ogc90 that plane was in the air for less than 20 mins, and if they asked on different occasions that means they got it the first time and they are just asking it to confirm something that is not relevant, at the time for that flight, (again more workload for pilots). If pilots stated that they could land the plane and weight was under MLW then no other questions about fuel and time should’ve been asked, they clearly had more than 3 hours of fuel on board. The ATC knew they were going to PR which is 3h flight, so no point overwhelming the pilots asking them the same question 3 times.
Was the fire put out in the air?
Anyone know if this was 74Gear?
After seeing video of the plane in the air the pilot was a rock.
74gear??
More information in the initial Mayday call would have assisted ATC.
There's a video of this, it was spitting fire.........
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Is this a passenger/cargo? I noticed an Atlas 747 flew the Michigan football team to the Rose Bowl and National Championship. I know they carry troops on these massive jets
This was a cargo plane, but Atlas has a handful of 767 and 747 passenger planes.
HAZMAT on-board?! 😨 could have been mad. Well done to those involved 🙏
It’s a cargo plane. They are almost always carrying Hazmat. Standard question so first responders know what they’re dealing with if they wind up TU on the runway.
HAZMAT can be anything from oil in a car to lithium batteries to radioactive. It's not always dangerous.
The Fire Captain would be pulling the manifests and DG Declarations while the aircraft was maneuvering for landing. I was the DG manager for a global manufacturer and personally knew the Atlas Air Dangerous Goods compliance manager. She was extremely knowledgeable and competent.
someone posted video and it's quite dramatic of a plane engulfed in flames through the sky. i've never seen anything like it. is it really as dramatic as it looks or is it more lightshow of runoff fuel burning away? [not that an engine fire isn't dramatic, but it's not michael bay level catastrophic]
Pretty sure the engine had been reduced to idle or shut down completely depending on the situation. The fire looks like fuel burn off related to a leak due to internal engine damage but the hole in the wing above the engine is concerning.
How much of that 52 tons is fuel or is that freight?
It's only fuel.
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When will ATC finally recognize “QNH” instead of altimeter
QNH is nonstandard phraseology in the United States. "Altimeter" is standard.
When I was in Afghanistan we used both, and guessed whether to use millibars or inHg based on the pilot's accent. Fun times.
First American pilot use “May day May Day”
These guys fly all over the world, mostly international. So they probably had more exposure to ICAO phraseology than domestic pilots. I hope more international phraseology becomes the standard.
With QNH request, not convinced American.
people get so triggered over this, I never used it in 15 years and controllers knew exactly what "declaring an emergency, engine failure" was
As a former 5Y pilot myself, we’re trained to use ICAO phraseology, and use Qne/Qnh /Qfe because Atlas flies all over the world. These guys did an exceptional job.
If you fly overseas a lot, as a 74 crew would, you tend to revert to ICAO.
I hope Kelsey wasn't aboard!! It sounds like him....
It does sound like him, huh?
I was thinking the same thing I just messaged him.
I see I’m not the only one wondering if it was Kelsey.
Oh my god
Oh my god
Oh my god
Even though the engine failed on climb, would the runway be checked for FOD?
I think that is why the controller asked if it failed on the runway or in flight. The response was on climb out. Still, out of an abundance of caution if they could switch to 8R and at least do a cursory inspection of 9 that would seem like a good idea. Granted 8R is "only" 10500 compared to 9's 13000 ft length. But winds were not a factor - 3 or 4 kts. Maybe that's why they directed them back to 9. After they landed, they'll see if they dropped anything on takeoff or landing. Limit the potential FOD to one runway.
Yes
After take-off checklist, Declaring an emergency, climb checklist, engine fire checklist, check aircraft weight, communications with ATC and company, FMC flight planning change to ILS RW09R, Descent checklist, Aircraft Performances check, Crew Briefing, ATC comms , Weather check, Fly the plane, Before Landing Checklist, Land….This is why pilots have a big payday ( but not so at Atlas Air - freightdogs as they are called worksuper hard for their $ )…😅
They both did a good job in this situation, but it sure seemed like ATC asked a lot of additional unnecessary questions in the moment.
For instance, was it on runway or on climb out?….At that moment, it didnt matter when. I understand the fuel and souls question, though the pilot answered the 5 hours already and was asked again. Lot going on in the cockpit to have to keep answering question and question like that. That were asked a total of 11 questions during all of that.
If the engine had blown on takeoff they would have had to close the runway and do a FOD inspection, FYI
@@johnstreet797 …. Understand, but just seemed like an inopportune time to be asking those type questions. Like I mentioned, in the moment it didnt matter. Just think sometimes ATC doesnt realize how much those pilots have going on in such situations
@@jay-rus4437the pilots can always say “standby” if they don’t have the time to answer. These questions are apart of ATC’s job
Kelsey…? That you?
Kelsy? Is that you?
It may have been an emergency that can be done "by the book" yet it is still an emergency and that fire can always turn into a blaze covering the whole wing (nr 2 is an inbound engine after all). They handled it very calm and well.
I wonder if it was an overweight landing, though.
747 can hold around 165 tons of fuel so this is nothing.
Probably not an overweight landing. It was only in a short hop to Puerto Rico.
Engine fires don’t really spread to the wing. They are contained.
@@saxmanb777 if it is just the engine that is on fire. I was thinking of air france 4590 when I wrote my statement. In this case it actually wasm't even the engine that was on fire, but parts of the wing.
Could this be @74Gear
Chrost Atc asleep ...how many times he gonna ask fuel and souls on board.. then which engine
.ffs
You know those atc people tend to have a few things going on at once. On top of that it's not like they each sit in there own quiet office. God forbid they need to ask for a repeat under such circumstances.
How busy do you think the flight crew are with alarms going off ffs ... yeah repeat yourself 4 or 5 times shur the lads will be just drinking coffee🙄
So, how many souls onboard and hours of fuel was this again?
He didn't mention fuel weight the first time though
cargo flight
@kaptanbaha is that you? :)
Wait that’s captain joe he used to fly for air berlin till they went belly up…check his chanel…captain joe
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When he asks if they have HazMat, is he asking if they have the suits or if they have hazardous materials?
Hazardous materials
Oh no. The dreaded 3 engine landing.