Masa Son on SoftBank's WeWork Investment

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  • SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son joins CNBC's David Faber to discuss the value of WeWork and why he sees it more than just a real estate company. They also look at SoftBank's valuation and debt. Son also states he's an Alibaba believer.
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ความคิดเห็น • 276

  • @0x0michael
    @0x0michael 5 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    WeWork is the real estate Theranos.

    • @gabonaqui7
      @gabonaqui7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Write an article about this please

    • @gabonaqui7
      @gabonaqui7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Semaphore Smith Oh thanks! I'll look into it :)

    • @gabonaqui7
      @gabonaqui7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Semaphore Smith this is quite a lax way of writing but thank you for the article!

    • @tc5102
      @tc5102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Michael Abia .....worst then Theranos in financial terms...WeWork will loose billions

    • @VinesGrapesAndWines
      @VinesGrapesAndWines 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      real estate tesla as well

  • @faro717
    @faro717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Sometimes it doesn’t take much to hook a really big fish...Neumann hooked the excitable Masa in epic proportions...

  • @stevensmith8876
    @stevensmith8876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I do my banking online. My bank is a tech company!

  • @NBegian
    @NBegian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    This is nothing compared to Netflix or Facebook. When netflix’s customer base increases , their cost doesnt increase. The cost Pretty much remains the same for Netflix whether they have thousand customers, 100 thousand or a million.
    With we work the more customers they have the more buildings they have to rent therefore the more their cost goes up. So If they cant make money now, How are they going to make money in the future

    • @fitrianhidayat
      @fitrianhidayat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      And here I thought the server cost would increase too

    • @HunterAdamHaley
      @HunterAdamHaley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how they "could" make money, they have fixed long term leases, with inflation they should be able to increase their prices over time

    • @JiuJitsuislife
      @JiuJitsuislife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Narek Begian Business term of the week: s-c-a-l-e

    • @bluedrag00n
      @bluedrag00n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How about these investment in Netflix content? Billions spent on trash.

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Netflix is screwed too but for different reasons. Exclusivity deals are going to kill streaming. Nobody is going to buy 10 different services.

  • @patilprasadc2007
    @patilprasadc2007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It is not right to compare WeWork and Netflix. Netflix user subscribe digital products while WeWork has a real tangible estate which costs money for upkeep and maintenance while it’s value is depreciating.

  • @karthikkal4599
    @karthikkal4599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Comedian of investing

  • @AlexVoxel
    @AlexVoxel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    It would be interesting to know his take on Regus and comparing it to WeWork

  • @jyee2217
    @jyee2217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Let Masa invest his personal money and not just investor money.

  • @babylondon204
    @babylondon204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Dear Mr. Son,
    Money gone 💸

  • @economixxxx
    @economixxxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Regus actually MAKES money, is MUCH bigger and is valued at a billion dollars. Wework loses money and is much smaller but valued at 50 billion. Its ridiculous.

    • @arifgunawan9329
      @arifgunawan9329 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      seems like you have a brain dead

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Strong financial background of owner, Only. Just like teasla.

    • @andrewkim2743
      @andrewkim2743 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes because they already went through this period of acquiring a large customer base and started profiting years ago - WeWork is more than 20 years younger than Regus, so obviously they need more time to get to the level Regus is at and they will quickly surpass them afterwards

    • @beamboy14526
      @beamboy14526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Good lord all these comments make me want to sell all my stocks and invest in gold. All you people are crazy, the current market is unreasonably overvalued beyond any rational comprehension. Why in gods name would you want to buy WeWork for $60 billion when it's only making $1.8 billion in revenue and LOSING $1.9 billion when you can buy Regus for $3 billion? And Regus generates $3 billion in revenue and makes $300 million per year.

  • @kenc8359
    @kenc8359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    WeWork was valued at USD47 billion because it has USD47 billion in office lease liabilities? Go figure.

  • @sf2998
    @sf2998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "thank u for worrying about me..." lol

  • @hamzaharfaoui1411
    @hamzaharfaoui1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this man

  • @shuyuantang5331
    @shuyuantang5331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol the precision of his time management
    Wow

  • @adonistopofmen2571
    @adonistopofmen2571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    good interview …….

  • @Mexicotravelltd.
    @Mexicotravelltd. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love it , especially when he replayed ( thanks for worriying about me )

  • @78g476
    @78g476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    More like WeBroke.

  • @ericsonnen5248
    @ericsonnen5248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When I buy into these types of second class shares, I value my EPS by voting rights. If I have a 1/1,000,000 voting right, then I figure I own 1/1,000,000 of the company and base EPS thereon. The losses are another story.

    • @kennethsouthard6042
      @kennethsouthard6042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That theory pretty much goes out the window when the insider shares outvote you 10 to 1 as in this case.

  • @PeterPan-qb3tb
    @PeterPan-qb3tb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This guy got screwed and so have all his investors.

  • @sabrinalian1123
    @sabrinalian1123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Haha, guess there's always a greater fool, until some kid calls out the king has no clothes

  • @tomast1323
    @tomast1323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where are the variable costs??

  • @hugol648
    @hugol648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We Worked

  • @calbastian
    @calbastian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Like any investment, it could make or lose money. WeWork is NOT Netflix.

  • @cfrincon
    @cfrincon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    In my opinion he’s all about saving face at this point.

    • @V0YAG3R
      @V0YAG3R 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carlos Rincon Japanese are just like Chinese, the Carlos Ghosn saga showed the whole world that, only difference is the perfume. Badly perfumed face 👌🏻

    • @verasamantha6954
      @verasamantha6954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@V0YAG3R he is a South Korean 😁

  • @henrydervishi6318
    @henrydervishi6318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Initial investment is just initial investment” lol with recurring Facebook revenues from subscriptions comes recurring expenses from IP/actors show directors, agencies etc, who are looking for their best price across the entire SVOD market. Good luck!

  • @seph9980
    @seph9980 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What he should do right now is prepare a possible candidates of successors. A successor should be able to take reins and manage once Masa Son decides to retire.
    Perhaps, a list of young men, lady managers, outsiders, should fill the list of candidates.

    • @rgosain
      @rgosain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rajeev Misra is his successor.

  • @jeandelaleau4823
    @jeandelaleau4823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Masayoshi Son is just so much above the crowd. Visionary

    • @shazamkhan7771
      @shazamkhan7771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @C🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @elsebas1978
      @elsebas1978 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This aged like milk

    • @AmazianLinsation82
      @AmazianLinsation82 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      $0.23. Visionary indeed

    • @lenhua1947
      @lenhua1947 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AmazianLinsation82 better privated it

  • @Skb2005
    @Skb2005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Lol to use Netflix as an example. Another example of a new company in an old business.
    He def gonna get to invest more lol

  • @tseamus8288
    @tseamus8288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My cafè isn't just cafè its tech company and lifestyle. It'a called "Eat Chill Work"

  • @mpk927
    @mpk927 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Masayoshi's gig is up

  • @julieta203
    @julieta203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He probably actually thinks they are a Tech Company after visiting their spaces and no one actually told him what they actually do :D

    • @V0YAG3R
      @V0YAG3R 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SFB They have cubicles... and inside those cubicles they have computers, COMPUTERS! And computers mean tech, therefore WeWork is clearly a tech company. THE END
      👌🏻

  • @Corgiking521
    @Corgiking521 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Companies going under now.
    This guy is either delusional or knew it was a desperate attempt to pump the stock.

  • @oneandonlyflow
    @oneandonlyflow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wonder what Masa would say now if he watches this vid...

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      More great things about WeWork. He has 10 billion in it.

  • @liyexiang666
    @liyexiang666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Masa is the biggests risk taker" that is true. he lose a lot on 2000s and Wework. But sometimes i wonder whether it actually work, cuz he still gets rich. MEANWHILE, tons of fund manager who "diversified" keep making less than 10% and lose their clients money over the long run

  • @khunopie9159
    @khunopie9159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whoops!

  • @cultivocustozero
    @cultivocustozero 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    É ver esse vídeo após um ano prova que esses investidores e ceos de startups não sabem de nada!

  • @kennethsouthard6042
    @kennethsouthard6042 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much satisfaction and happiness are those employees having now?

  • @lijie6431
    @lijie6431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you think if wework cuts back on cap ex they would be profitable?

  • @technologyandinnovation4586
    @technologyandinnovation4586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is investor point of view Mr Son, I have a property and I see you reducing expense by 40% to stay in business I will reduce by 41% until I run you out of town. If this does not work I will team with local tangent business to give customer turn key solution and I will run you out of town. Your model is .... Walmart of Landlord.

  • @nishantaadi
    @nishantaadi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In pandemic we are laughing here.

    • @sekar9901
      @sekar9901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Softbank invested a lot of their money on red doors. Red doors also screw up.

  • @nararing3
    @nararing3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If WeWork start to use special kind of tech tool in their offices. what would you say folks? This mus be the next and Mr.Son is seeing that.

    • @hyprolxag
      @hyprolxag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nararing3 except it is not his money but others money and he is just a fund manager who are push by a demand to create profit from thin air like WeWork

  • @sadmansakib6753
    @sadmansakib6753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Lol. Masa took a huge L!

  • @alanr1491
    @alanr1491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It’s funny watching this interview 6 months later. When’s this guy gonna get fired

    • @zoounta
      @zoounta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He will never get fired, he is the decision maker!

    • @hepthegreat4005
      @hepthegreat4005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      12 months later with a quarantine is even funnier.

  • @kwolf21
    @kwolf21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In this interview, Mr. Son sounds eerily similar to an old Korean business mogul (failed), Kim Woo-Jung. Big dream with no sound economics. The world will suffer greatly when his big, unrealistic dream fails, as Korea came to suffer from Kim Woo-Jing's failure a couple of decades ago.

  • @KKB-tt4lj
    @KKB-tt4lj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stats says there is a 30% reduction in productivity...

  • @markmccorrie3905
    @markmccorrie3905 ปีที่แล้ว

    He makes running a $100bn fund look easy

  • @westfield90
    @westfield90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We never learnt anything from the tech bubble and housing bubble. Different generation, Same story, same ending. None of these companies make a profit but once again they become darlings of the media and investors. The founders and management walk away with millions and the average worker is out of a job. This is just the start. This millennium generation has a hard fall ahead. Six figure starting salaries at startups cannot be sustained.

  • @wjun0131
    @wjun0131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think Netflix and Facebook are good comparisons.

  • @PeterXian
    @PeterXian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good for customers, bad for business.

  • @IchimokuCloud
    @IchimokuCloud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Faber let him completely off the hook on WeWork. "Losses are just accounting." Uh Huh.

  • @pepeka1772
    @pepeka1772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Masa is a risk investor. This kind of investor knows that they need to put their money in companies with potential. If they don't do it, soon or later, other "player" will do it. In 10 cases, 1 of these companies will become itself a Google. They know it and they accept the risk. WeWork was one of this cases. Masa betted and lost. But can you realize the huge frustration if he don't put his money on this, other investor comes and does and the company becomes a new Google? For this reason, investors like Masa invested a huge amount of money in companies like WeWork and they will keep doing it, forever. This is the world of risk investor.

  • @theemacsen1518
    @theemacsen1518 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thought it was overvalued company?

    • @V0YAG3R
      @V0YAG3R 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      BEERUS SAMA I did all the time, they didn't fool me. It was obvious they were just a real state company all along, renting office space to small companies and startups. Nothing TECH about such business at all.
      Ridiculously overvalued too, just like many other noisy companies, even the likes of WhatsApp, which the equally psycho Zuckerberg, paid 20 billion dollars for 👌🏻

  • @seeker4430
    @seeker4430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Oh shut up! Productivity in shared work spaces is low. Lower than private offices.

  • @thewkovacs316
    @thewkovacs316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wewiork is a real estate company....why was he comparing it to online platforms?

  • @mercedessl8718
    @mercedessl8718 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does anyone split their % 97/3 ????

  • @TheDaftySage
    @TheDaftySage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ 0:40:
    - But right now they're losing money.
    - Ooum, accounting wise [...] but it's a recurring revenue.

    • @RubyBandUSA
      @RubyBandUSA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      he's an idiot, sorry

  • @JizzMasterTheZeroth
    @JizzMasterTheZeroth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It isn't though, but sure..

  • @MSH3423
    @MSH3423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most WeWork places does not provide parking space. People are not happy working in WeWork Space.

  • @rv9497
    @rv9497 ปีที่แล้ว

    Highly leveraged. House of cards coming down soon.

  • @minyaksayur
    @minyaksayur 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well lets ask him again after $9.2 billion write off, and Adam Neumann being investigated by NY AG for fraud.

  • @TheEtrepreneur
    @TheEtrepreneur 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "accounting wise" , that's why Masa is Masa, and the reporter, well...

    • @mark95pb
      @mark95pb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comment of the video !

  • @paulkim244
    @paulkim244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:45 Guys, he's not fruslated.

  • @jhonnyspeed4513
    @jhonnyspeed4513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oct 2019 - Well that didn't work. SoftBank just had to take over these pieces of crap.

  • @antaeusguy
    @antaeusguy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now look at WeWork share price... from high of $14 per share and drop to 12 cents now? 😄

  • @economychannelpremium2576
    @economychannelpremium2576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    a genius

  • @inezqtaish6467
    @inezqtaish6467 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inez Qtaish is writing" black lines drug fact XL glitter tan black lines

  • @ricardogolia4148
    @ricardogolia4148 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is an éternan colar to march

  • @Batman_911
    @Batman_911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Trying to unload his bags on the public ......lol

  • @pyromcr
    @pyromcr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't wait for the next crash. All these new companies are so shit and unsustainable

  • @atindranathsarkar8284
    @atindranathsarkar8284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the greatest investor of all time...:)

    • @pomp4401
      @pomp4401 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now bankrupt.

  • @user-jk5rn1nm5j
    @user-jk5rn1nm5j 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    さすが世界の孫正義社長の英語はパーフェクトですね。Good Iuck to you.

  • @lenhua1947
    @lenhua1947 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    masa, what happen to we-work now?

    • @ShyamS-sx7xt
      @ShyamS-sx7xt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      are you really questioning him? he can buy your whole ancestors up to the chimps, multiple times..

  • @adamlee9347
    @adamlee9347 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Really? How is wework valued over 50 billion

    • @Hawktotalwar
      @Hawktotalwar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he doesn't, he just throws money to discourage competition in this field.

    • @tigranmedici1993
      @tigranmedici1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fat Guy It’s not his money it’s his investors money

  • @Jefemcownage
    @Jefemcownage 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's better to have 100% cost reduction and work from your house.

  • @MrCapitalizer
    @MrCapitalizer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you or I lost billions they would have our asses in prison.

  • @ethantrout1524
    @ethantrout1524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wework is spending a bunch of money so they can establish international standing. There are synergies that exist from an international presence and it diversifies away risk from any particular countries real estate market crashing. Smart move if it pays off in the end. There's a lot of money to play around with in the markets so peoples willingness to throw money at gambles like this and tolerate the risk is there.

    • @user-wn8mc1yc1g
      @user-wn8mc1yc1g 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but - they lost a tremendous amount in asia and almost half their revenue comes from the USA.

  • @arenaslettuce
    @arenaslettuce 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A que don machachochichon

  • @hyouzanren1846
    @hyouzanren1846 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Theranos 2.0! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @dennisx
    @dennisx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Masa low key loves Adam, he got sold and lost his analytical mind

    • @xolampungose
      @xolampungose 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the WeCrashed series it was revealed that Masa only invested in WeWork cause he believed in Adam, not the company.

  • @charlestan5295
    @charlestan5295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Masa son must be on weeds

  • @MohammedAzad91
    @MohammedAzad91 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder if he still thinks the same

  • @TopShot501st
    @TopShot501st 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah that one was a miss fam...

  • @Zen_Power
    @Zen_Power 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is like listening to Jack Ma talk about AI in the open discussion with Elon Musk. The more he talks the more foolish he sounds.

    • @mipmip5759
      @mipmip5759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      both elon and jack are fools

    • @chiquita683
      @chiquita683 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mipmip5759 And Elon

    • @V0YAG3R
      @V0YAG3R 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Power of Zen Both are pathological, manipulative psychopaths just like WeWork's Neumann and Elizabeth Holmes, only difference is that the first 3 know how to hustle their way in Wall Street👌🏻

    • @itxt1633
      @itxt1633 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is equivalent to saying ronaldo is bad at soccer bc he didnt win one match. Touch grass 😂

  • @gukes-etf
    @gukes-etf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hating the fake expression by the journalist

  • @linglee5759
    @linglee5759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    WeWork will collapse

  • @AverageAngel
    @AverageAngel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    undervalued, below book value

  • @MANJEET19891189
    @MANJEET19891189 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can't defend, don't fake

  • @jasonmarriott69
    @jasonmarriott69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Financial Titanic story ... You can't have a super loose narc as CEO navigating ...

  • @TamLe-fg8xx
    @TamLe-fg8xx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Jack Ma's Father

    • @haruki5360
      @haruki5360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And masa's son

  • @benrivera3298
    @benrivera3298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WeWork= Solindra.

  • @papi8334
    @papi8334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Masayoshi , você já conseguiu tudo que queria na vida, porém a vida te mostrará que você (Masayoshi) está correndo atrás do vento e que logo o medo de perder dinheiro te trará um câncer terrível, tão terrível que te matará , é só uma questão de tempo , pouco tempo ".........................
    (Português)

  • @mipmip5759
    @mipmip5759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    he should go back to spend 97% in operations

  • @bharat_arora
    @bharat_arora 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't put all your eggs in one basket

  • @pennygeno5629
    @pennygeno5629 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    he doesn't care, its not his money anyway, its just printed

  • @korgond
    @korgond 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy knows what he is talkin'

  • @richiemello3447
    @richiemello3447 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This did not age well.

  • @IssabekovR
    @IssabekovR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    he is a buyer lol

  • @epicscoreCS2
    @epicscoreCS2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sad the WW ceo is a prick, this guy seems to be solid.

  • @timblu5029
    @timblu5029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Overvalued

    • @zachsidana350
      @zachsidana350 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wework sure, not SoftBank

  • @moviesjean23
    @moviesjean23 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Summary : I fucked up
    The end
    Saved you time