I love the take on Wunder, honestly as a fan I was unsure how to react to the signing, I wasnt fully aware of the Adam drama and was fully expecting him to be back for spring. But honestly now I'm quite happy we brought Wunder in to solidify the top lane with a presence that can weak side and be a huge factor in team fights. Loved watching his Akali earlier in the split.
The Dutch idiom he mentioned actually exists: "je weet nooit hoe een koe een haas vangt"; you never know how a cow catches a hare. It means the Impossible/unlikely scenario might occur even though you can't see how prior to it happening.
So glad I quit in Jan. Still watch the LEC and the boys trifecta when i notice it but playing* league is a waste of time. Also totally sober. Feelsgoodman. Working on vehicles, aggressive inline, disk golf, bowling, arm wrestling, writng rhymes, playing Yugioh and MTG are way better activites.
Theres always talks about leaders but theres rarely a time that a co-captain is talked about. A plane is flown with a pilot and copilot, a chef has a sous chef etc etc. A second voice is just as important as having a leader and often times makes a leader even great. G2 with Perkz and Jankoz was a great example of this, you can debate who was the leader but it was well known that though they often didnt see eye to eye on how they played the game they did respect each others decision.
Talking about Jg champ pools, why is Poppy not higher in prio in EU or NA ? She does well into lee, Xin, J4 individually. She stops them in team fights. I think proactive poppy ganks in pro play may need hexflash or some high iq play, but still.
@@kklap3219 Olaf and poppy do two completely different things. But because you probably don't know poppy has 37 games across lpl and lck. While in eu it's 2 and na is 6 counting lockin. The massive difference in a Champs picked between east and west is always weird.
Dom's prediction for MAD Lions was 5th place; with Excel and Misfits fighting for 6th and 7th. Instead Misfits have heavily overperformed thanks to MVP Vetheo and an improved looking Neon. And Excel upgraded by buying poor abandoned Mikyx. To me it just makes sense MAD would be the ones to get booted out into 7th given what Misfits and Excel have done this split. They're underperforming to be tied with SK at 5 wins but I don't think they're underperforming to be 7th because taking 2 rookies especially in pivotal roles like Mid and ADC is always risky. If MAD wants back into the Top 6 I'd be looking at replacing Reeker with Lider. Reeker isn't terrible but I think it's safe to say Lider would be an immediate upgrade unless Reeker starts playing a lot better.
As a G2 fan, I have to admit I have been underwhelmed this entire season by their wins. I agree with Dom. It’s like they don’t know how to win the game. It’s crazy to think because Jankos and Caps are veterans of the old 2019 roster and you’d think they’d get better but the shot calling just isn’t there. I’m still hopeful for playoffs but still underwhelmed. 🥺🥺😔
I said it before and I will say it again. Caps and Jankos are supportive players, who need direction to trigger plays. You can't have a core without a trigger happy player, as you then gamble on getting a playmaker. So G2 really had to bite the bullet and get a player that is known for agression, like Bwipo/Selfmade/Lider/Perkz/Humanoid/Upset/Hylisang. As we can see, they did not get a fully developed playmaker this last offseason, so it is not a surprise that G2 oftentimes look dead in the water. Worst of all with that is , that most likely all the knowledge to make the correct decisions is there, there is just no one who pulls the trigger to actually make plays. So until G2 fixes that, they will have massive problems.
@@peterfischer2039 well fuck. If you were able to deduce the issue so quickly, I wonder why the coaching staff can’t. Or they’re aware and pushing Jankos to be more of what Perkz was for the team. I mean I did hear he’s sort of the “captain” right now. Idk.
@@CrimsonArclight pretty sure they know the issues but the thing is to apply them on rift not just to identify them but so far theyr problem from my perspective is that they are not a team yet to click as one , take mad from last year..sure they had flaws but they were a unit ...there's still time anyway
1 word as to why Jinx hasn't been nerfed: Arcane. Same reason why certain champs immediately get compensation buffs, but others are left to rot for years.
I like how they try to find some legit explanation for this when in reality League of Legends is now just a funny video game based on a popular tv series.
So glad I quit in Jan. Still watch the LEC and the boys trifecta when i notice it but playing* league is a waste of time. Also totally sober. Feelsgoodman. Working on vehicles, aggressive inline, disk golf, bowling, arm wrestling, writng rhymes, playing Yugioh and MTG are way better activites.
Last episode you touched base on Deficio's GMing for keeping Vetheo or resigning to sell him. I don't know if the video was recorded before Misfits announced the signing of Magifelix, where do you think is going? is Misfits getting ready to sell Vetheo next split?
It's because mad lions is already expected to win because of their legacy as opposed to misfits who were given more time because as a team or an org there was less pressure put on them
The reason why Jinx is doing so well is in part because of the Teleport changes. The lane phase lasts a lot longer than it used to, which gives Jinx more time to scale up. Until these Teleport changes happened Jinx was rarely played in pro.
@@LegendaryBilly Jayce and viktor were meta before arcane. Only jinx came back with some slight buffs and LT changes, but she already was picked here and there, the same way graves suddenly became a priority pick in top, he has been good for over a year. What you are implying is just not there.
@@kklap3219 My comment was meant to be ironic to exemplify how the argument that it is because of arcane is flawed upon any further analysis. Tone is not something well transmitted through the internet so I understand.
i wonder how hard is it for dom to hear thorin say absolute mad false statement not only game knowledge wise but also reputation wise finn overrated ?????????? man was labled dogshit since the first split he played
I don't think vetheo carries that game without a yuumi and g2 throwing absurdly, he played akali well but like for fucks sake he got spoon fed kills, super minions, a baron and a cat. As well as he played it, I think any competent akali player could've done similar shit to g2 the way they played the mid/late game fights and map.
Noone will ever be able to explain to me why Dajor and Reeker, Xmatty, Jezu, ... are playing in LEC while LIDER and Crownshot are chilling in ERL / streaming. I swear these GMs see a guy who could be the 7th best Orianna / Jinx player in LEC at his peak and sign him because he's such a talent. Remember VIT last year with LIDER? The one that got to playoffs in summer within 3 months of playing together? Took Fnatic (who went to the finals that year to 5 games? Yeah, nah I'm sure these 19 year old superstars will all become the next faker.
@@andersphilipsen4352 It could but what's the point of having a 20+ million asset (LEC slot) if you're not willing to invest 100k to get from 10th to 6th at least and get your brand out there. Orgs like Astralis and SK are actually pulling down the value of being in the LEC because everyone should realize by now players, investors and sponsors would all rather smurf in LFL and get 5x the viewership than being such a waste of time as every Astralis game with 0 fans behind you.
I didnt know reeker before lec but many lec players considered reeker to be rookie of the split so i guess they value him highly. He doesnt play good enough but mayby there is the potential to be the best? Just a random thought
Funny, I actually thought today about how useless these vod reviews seem to be. Like even if you would never do the same mistake again, how likely is it that you will ever end up in that same situation again, especially if it‘s in super late game? Probably zero.
It's helpful for players that are lower level at the game. For example a gold player doing a vod review can be extremely helpful realize concepts in the game.
There are specific situations, but broad stimulations can lead to broad concepts that can shift your entire Teamplay up a notch. It's just that looking wow you did that wrong there and here is useless, vod reviews should always be about synergy.
I have to say, I'm starting to question more and more the narrative that Perkz is a "great leader". There is no denying that at G2 he was the mastermind but he was already well established in the org (veteran status) and he was surrounded by people who, although extremely talented, were pretty quiet. Jankos is loud but he isn't so willing to lead. On top of that he was respected has one of the most gifted players so those players easily accepted being lead by him. But then he went to C9 and it didn't seem that he was the leader of that team. He was the new guy and people like Blaber and Fudge are pretty strong minded/vocal. Plus his performance was underwhelming so he couldn't lead by success. And now he is in a roaster filled with not only excellent mechanical players but also people who have a clear idea of how THEY want to play aside from Labrov. And here again, his personal performance has been lackluster. Listening at some of their coms, it doesn't feel like he is the mastermind. And that's fine he isn't now or later in the future but like Caps' personal talent to be godlike in the midlane, his leader isn't some plug and play shit you guys are making it to be. For comparison, I'm pretty sure what happened to G2 and Perkz is happening right now with Misfit and Vetheo. If you ask any of the players, they are going to tell you that their leader is Vetheo. Although he is also a pretty quiet guy, he is leading by example (inside and outside the game) and he is surrounded by people who are even more quiet than him. So yeah to me, Perkz being a leader similar to Michael Jordan is something I don't buy
I think we can all agree, NA is just better than EU this split whether it's a comparison of the whole league 1-10, or a top 3 teams vs top 3 teams of each respective region, even bottom 3 versus bottom 3, NA wins out in every way possible. Hope EU sort some things out and become competitive again.
No, why do you think G2 was good? it was Perkz who lead the team always shotcalling and making sure the team was focussed every day. You will notice this if you've seen enough G2 content since they entered the EU LCS. Now that he has been to NA he has become trash but he will recover in a year hopefully.
I love the show but it just triggers me so hard how Thorin pronounces Vetheo and even more when he then goes on with some delusional takes. In the past few weeks it even got worse and i literally only watch his shows for Monte, Dom ...
Dom's points about vod review discourse elevated him in new levels in my estimation. Congrats. Brilliant episode.
yes, that was super interesting
I love the take on Wunder, honestly as a fan I was unsure how to react to the signing, I wasnt fully aware of the Adam drama and was fully expecting him to be back for spring. But honestly now I'm quite happy we brought Wunder in to solidify the top lane with a presence that can weak side and be a huge factor in team fights. Loved watching his Akali earlier in the split.
The Dutch idiom he mentioned actually exists: "je weet nooit hoe een koe een haas vangt"; you never know how a cow catches a hare. It means the Impossible/unlikely scenario might occur even though you can't see how prior to it happening.
Jinx nerfs are probably coming a few weeks after the new skins she's getting are released... Good episode, really love the show
gotta milk the arcane money
So glad I quit in Jan. Still watch the LEC and the boys trifecta when i notice it but playing* league is a waste of time. Also totally sober.
Feelsgoodman. Working on vehicles, aggressive inline, disk golf, bowling, arm wrestling, writng rhymes, playing Yugioh and MTG are way better activites.
@@Habeev07 hell ye quitting PLAYING league and getting/staying sober are such great things for your life i swear hahaha
Theres always talks about leaders but theres rarely a time that a co-captain is talked about. A plane is flown with a pilot and copilot, a chef has a sous chef etc etc. A second voice is just as important as having a leader and often times makes a leader even great. G2 with Perkz and Jankoz was a great example of this, you can debate who was the leader but it was well known that though they often didnt see eye to eye on how they played the game they did respect each others decision.
The effective VOD review segments was very insightful!
"G2" and "not being able to finish games" in the same sentence feels so weird but sadly it is what we have come to.
Talking about Jg champ pools, why is Poppy not higher in prio in EU or NA ? She does well into lee, Xin, J4 individually. She stops them in team fights.
I think proactive poppy ganks in pro play may need hexflash or some high iq play, but still.
Im guessing she isnt great in scrims.
jankos seems willing to play her but I actually dont remember anyone else doing so
she has relatively slow clear and you can just pick olaf into all of those champs.
Maybe clear speed? Not sure how she does for single target camps.
@@kklap3219 Olaf and poppy do two completely different things. But because you probably don't know poppy has 37 games across lpl and lck. While in eu it's 2 and na is 6 counting lockin. The massive difference in a Champs picked between east and west is always weird.
Dom's prediction for MAD Lions was 5th place; with Excel and Misfits fighting for 6th and 7th. Instead Misfits have heavily overperformed thanks to MVP Vetheo and an improved looking Neon. And Excel upgraded by buying poor abandoned Mikyx. To me it just makes sense MAD would be the ones to get booted out into 7th given what Misfits and Excel have done this split. They're underperforming to be tied with SK at 5 wins but I don't think they're underperforming to be 7th because taking 2 rookies especially in pivotal roles like Mid and ADC is always risky. If MAD wants back into the Top 6 I'd be looking at replacing Reeker with Lider. Reeker isn't terrible but I think it's safe to say Lider would be an immediate upgrade unless Reeker starts playing a lot better.
As a G2 fan, I have to admit I have been underwhelmed this entire season by their wins. I agree with Dom. It’s like they don’t know how to win the game. It’s crazy to think because Jankos and Caps are veterans of the old 2019 roster and you’d think they’d get better but the shot calling just isn’t there.
I’m still hopeful for playoffs but still underwhelmed. 🥺🥺😔
I said it before and I will say it again.
Caps and Jankos are supportive players, who need direction to trigger plays.
You can't have a core without a trigger happy player, as you then gamble on getting a playmaker.
So G2 really had to bite the bullet and get a player that is known for agression, like Bwipo/Selfmade/Lider/Perkz/Humanoid/Upset/Hylisang.
As we can see, they did not get a fully developed playmaker this last offseason, so it is not a surprise that G2 oftentimes look dead in the water.
Worst of all with that is , that most likely all the knowledge to make the correct decisions is there, there is just no one who pulls the trigger to actually make plays.
So until G2 fixes that, they will have massive problems.
@@peterfischer2039 well fuck. If you were able to deduce the issue so quickly, I wonder why the coaching staff can’t. Or they’re aware and pushing Jankos to be more of what Perkz was for the team. I mean I did hear he’s sort of the “captain” right now. Idk.
@@CrimsonArclight pretty sure they know the issues but the thing is to apply them on rift not just to identify them but so far theyr problem from my perspective is that they are not a team yet to click as one , take mad from last year..sure they had flaws but they were a unit ...there's still time anyway
@@GoldLegYan Actually think it's Targamas that will develop that talent if anyone.
1 word as to why Jinx hasn't been nerfed: Arcane. Same reason why certain champs immediately get compensation buffs, but others are left to rot for years.
I like how they try to find some legit explanation for this when in reality League of Legends is now just a funny video game based on a popular tv series.
Well she’s just been given a prestige skin and they need to sell it.
well, there is also the fact that she isnt truly OP, the meta just fits her
So glad I quit in Jan. Still watch the LEC and the boys trifecta when i notice it but playing* league is a waste of time. Also totally sober.
Feelsgoodman. Working on vehicles, aggressive inline, disk golf, bowling, arm wrestling, writng rhymes, playing Yugioh and MTG are way better activites.
YEAAAH THORINNN, OLD SCHOOL HIIIPPPHOOPPP
1:02:19 Rekkles did say Selfmade was overrated in LEC Pop Quiz 2021 & then Selfmade calls himself overrated as well.
Really nice episode, seems like you had even more energy than usual
i wont judge G2 until playoff begins! Yeah their shotcalls have been kinda underwhelmed but it is sayed they are the strongest team in scrims!
Does this also have an rss feed or is it yt only for now?
The show is great and anything, but if Dom keeps wearing a Seahawks Hoodie I can't help but start to hate every take from him.
Loving the show keep it up
Spotify please
Last episode you touched base on Deficio's GMing for keeping Vetheo or resigning to sell him. I don't know if the video was recorded before Misfits announced the signing of Magifelix, where do you think is going? is Misfits getting ready to sell Vetheo next split?
Vetheo going to NA baby :)
They forgot the Jinx Prestige Skin
great show and all but when is thorins onlyfans coming?
Would both g2 and vit be better if they traded junglers? Perks always did great with teamplay facilitators
(And caps can get lane control for an agressive jungler still)
hasnt Jinx been in this state for ages and just came back into the meta because TP was changed and people started remembering that she exists?
That and Arcane lol
@@CrimsonArclight "remembered that she exists"
@@LiveErrors lethal tempo changes
Idk why is everyone super against Reeker, its his first split. VTO didnt played really good in his first split too.
It's because mad lions is already expected to win because of their legacy as opposed to misfits who were given more time because as a team or an org there was less pressure put on them
The reason why Jinx is doing so well is in part because of the Teleport changes. The lane phase lasts a lot longer than it used to, which gives Jinx more time to scale up. Until these Teleport changes happened Jinx was rarely played in pro.
Possibly.
Also possible is that all arcane champions are being played, well, except Ekko, Caitlyn and Vi. Hmmmm
She was played alot in China before the changes though she's always been good and hasn't been tagged like other ADC's
@@LegendaryBilly Jayce and viktor were meta before arcane. Only jinx came back with some slight buffs and LT changes, but she already was picked here and there, the same way graves suddenly became a priority pick in top, he has been good for over a year. What you are implying is just not there.
@@kklap3219
My comment was meant to be ironic to exemplify how the argument that it is because of arcane is flawed upon any further analysis.
Tone is not something well transmitted through the internet so I understand.
So while that'll help any scaling adcs it's mostly people playing her.
Banger
When bjerg was coach and they did vod reviews it was cringe how nobody cared or took them seriously
i wonder how hard is it for dom to hear thorin say absolute mad false statement not only game knowledge wise but also reputation wise finn overrated ??????????
man was labled dogshit since the first split he played
I don't think vetheo carries that game without a yuumi and g2 throwing absurdly, he played akali well but like for fucks sake he got spoon fed kills, super minions, a baron and a cat. As well as he played it, I think any competent akali player could've done similar shit to g2 the way they played the mid/late game fights and map.
Mad Lions did the TL will summer split matter?
No Jinx nerfs yet and no patch for 4 weeks xD
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Lmao
ty
Definitely
mad went from top to bottom, kind of like how v5 went from bottom to top. Lol
Noone will ever be able to explain to me why Dajor and Reeker, Xmatty, Jezu, ... are playing in LEC while LIDER and Crownshot are chilling in ERL / streaming. I swear these GMs see a guy who could be the 7th best Orianna / Jinx player in LEC at his peak and sign him because he's such a talent.
Remember VIT last year with LIDER? The one that got to playoffs in summer within 3 months of playing together? Took Fnatic (who went to the finals that year to 5 games? Yeah, nah I'm sure these 19 year old superstars will all become the next faker.
well, one thing that could have an influence, is the price of a lider contract compared to dajor/reeker
@@andersphilipsen4352 It could but what's the point of having a 20+ million asset (LEC slot) if you're not willing to invest 100k to get from 10th to 6th at least and get your brand out there.
Orgs like Astralis and SK are actually pulling down the value of being in the LEC because everyone should realize by now players, investors and sponsors would all rather smurf in LFL and get 5x the viewership than being such a waste of time as every Astralis game with 0 fans behind you.
I didnt know reeker before lec but many lec players considered reeker to be rookie of the split so i guess they value him highly. He doesnt play good enough but mayby there is the potential to be the best? Just a random thought
Oomll
Looking at it now they should have kept crownshot because he made labrov last year a elite support in lec
Nice
Sigma Dominica showing off his infinite knowledge 29:28
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Everyone loves dGon man cmon
Funny, I actually thought today about how useless these vod reviews seem to be. Like even if you would never do the same mistake again, how likely is it that you will ever end up in that same situation again, especially if it‘s in super late game? Probably zero.
It's helpful for players that are lower level at the game. For example a gold player doing a vod review can be extremely helpful realize concepts in the game.
There are specific situations, but broad stimulations can lead to broad concepts that can shift your entire Teamplay up a notch.
It's just that looking wow you did that wrong there and here is useless, vod reviews should always be about synergy.
Is this another hating on caps episode?
@@joaovieira4785 both bad
I have to say, I'm starting to question more and more the narrative that Perkz is a "great leader".
There is no denying that at G2 he was the mastermind but he was already well established in the org (veteran status) and he was surrounded by people who, although extremely talented, were pretty quiet. Jankos is loud but he isn't so willing to lead. On top of that he was respected has one of the most gifted players so those players easily accepted being lead by him.
But then he went to C9 and it didn't seem that he was the leader of that team. He was the new guy and people like Blaber and Fudge are pretty strong minded/vocal. Plus his performance was underwhelming so he couldn't lead by success.
And now he is in a roaster filled with not only excellent mechanical players but also people who have a clear idea of how THEY want to play aside from Labrov. And here again, his personal performance has been lackluster. Listening at some of their coms, it doesn't feel like he is the mastermind.
And that's fine he isn't now or later in the future but like Caps' personal talent to be godlike in the midlane, his leader isn't some plug and play shit you guys are making it to be.
For comparison, I'm pretty sure what happened to G2 and Perkz is happening right now with Misfit and Vetheo. If you ask any of the players, they are going to tell you that their leader is Vetheo. Although he is also a pretty quiet guy, he is leading by example (inside and outside the game) and he is surrounded by people who are even more quiet than him.
So yeah to me, Perkz being a leader similar to Michael Jordan is something I don't buy
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I think we can all agree, NA is just better than EU this split whether it's a comparison of the whole league 1-10, or a top 3 teams vs top 3 teams of each respective region, even bottom 3 versus bottom 3, NA wins out in every way possible. Hope EU sort some things out and become competitive again.
Are you telling me you think tsm can beat astalis? Reggie is from America he hasn't even HEARD of taxes before
No, why do you think G2 was good? it was Perkz who lead the team always shotcalling and making sure the team was focussed every day. You will notice this if you've seen enough G2 content since they entered the EU LCS. Now that he has been to NA he has become trash but he will recover in a year hopefully.
I’ve seen Perkz talking and interacting in twitch chat and he’s a good kid. They should have replaced Perkz with Hjarnan though.
funny cause he was pretty bad in NA don’t think doing to NA had anything to do with that enjoy perkz tho
I love the show but it just triggers me so hard how Thorin pronounces Vetheo and even more when he then goes on with some delusional takes. In the past few weeks it even got worse and i literally only watch his shows for Monte, Dom ...