I don’t think many buyers would be comparing the Mac Studio with the base Mac mini. A more realistic question would be, can I do what I need to do with a maxed-out Mac mini, or do I need to jump to the Studio model, for perhaps only a couple hundred dollars more. I don’t think you’ve answered that question.
I am one of those few who had that question 😅 I was thinking on moving full to Mac because I am a 3D animator, so I really need power, I own a PC with 64GB of ram, R9 3950x and a 2080ti gpu... But I am also an app's developer so I need a Mac no matter what but actually the base Mac mini is perfectly enough, so I was thinking on upgrading my PC and my old Mac or go full for a Mac Studio, but I found out that with a Mac mini and upgrading my PC was more convenient for the price
Actually I searched out this video to see if the base Mac mini is suitable for my needs compared to Mac Studio cause I wanna know if spending £700 vs £1500 for what I’m gonna use it for.
Found your channel a while back when i was looking for a tablet and have been subscribed ever since. I like the way you go through every detail of a product one by one. Not too flashy or anything and No artificial hype. Keep it up man 👍🏼
I bought a Mac mini right after the studio came out. Took the 16gb ram model and shoved a satachi dock with the sata m.2 drive. I threw in a 1tb drive in and haven’t looked back. 👍
Excellent video! Technically I only needed the Mini but I wanted to Studio. I purchased the Studio a couple of weeks after release and I couldn't be happier and feel that I will stay that way for many years and I just got the base model. Thus far it chews through anything I throw at it with ease.
Great comparison. For my use case, I’ve come to the conclusion that the Mini is sufficient and by far the best value. The only reason to delay is the rumoured release of the M2 redesigned Mini in Oct/Nov but that’s almost 6 months away and no guarantee that the M2 Mini won’t actually come out until next Spring. Also, I can’t see much scope for ‘redesign’ with the Mini - it’s just basically a box shaped desktop computer.
@@rajb3388 I’m waiting for the m2, if you know you’re getting that computer to last you for years and years, then I came to the conclusion to wait a couple months and get a better version of a Mac for hopefully the same price
Thank you for posting. For anyone reading these comments.. I picked up Mac mini M1 16g with 2TB of storage.. If I was buying today I would have gotten the Mac Studio for my work flow... The Mac Studio was not available or even announce, and in my work flow, my 2014 MBP 15" was needing to be retired.. the M1 Mini is great. for video editing FCPX is great. for editing my Blackmagic BMPCC4K BRAW it's capable, though if you got the 6K BRAW or higher I would think you would need to drop resolution. My 3D animation is vastly improved over my older laptop, though if I was making money rendering then obviously get Studio $4,000 version. I purchased my Mini because I knew SOMETHING better was coming but I needed SOMETHING NOW and I don't regret it. I got the 2Tb version since I knew at some point my Mini would become 2nd tier computer and be just for music creation with Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol (plug ins alone are over 1 TB of storage plus other 3rd party.. (if you ever had plug ins across multiple HDD's you know the nightmare it is) so I went for max storage. Next year I will likely get a Mac Studio.. and it might be the $2,000 version with some bumps up or the $4,000 hard to say. What I will say is that still most software does not utilize the GPU cores well or Apple's Metal, so a lot of the potential of the hardware is underutilized by 3rd party software. but it is improving. Rumors abounded for a year now about a higher tier mini M1 Pro/Max or a M2 around the corner, and maybe now it is around the corner (september) If not? get what you ned now. better to get something and vastly improve what you had before like some Intel laptop like I did.. the saving can be spent on a Blackmagic pocket cinema camera, or if you prefer a Panasonic G5/G6 or what ever your hobby/business is. For most though, honestly a Mac mini M1, 16g and say 512 or even 1TB storage is more than enough unless you know you have some real reason to spend more..
For me the formative difference is that the mac studio locks you into subscription based access to essential software like adobe premier. I am very willing to live with an older operating system if I'm not having to pay $60 a month for software. It's an absolute deal breaker for me. You can consider that "base price" to then be $infinity if you rely on this software for work.
I’m loving my Mac Mini! Was really considering the Mac Studio, but with that Hub and 16GB of RAM and 1TB I’m all set, and like you said I keep most of my stuff on external drives. Awesome video man! I have a lot to catch up on : )
@@TechGearTalk How much Ram does Monterey use on an M1 at the present update cycle? My only concern is someone stated that the OS was using 13 GB out of 16 while totally idle. I think it was hooked up to a Studio Display. But do you see this kind of Ram usage at the moment on an M1 Mini? My concern is that it’s already not very future proofed even just a few years later with the OS getting a bit chunky on the memory usage. However my wallet would prefer the Mini for certain.
A great comparison. I am upgrading from a 2011 27” iMac, which has been a workhorse but now suffers from unravelling version support from apps, so I mostly use it in target display model from my 2019 MacBook Pro. I’ve been able to upgrade the iMac myself, replacing the HDD with a SSD, and maxing memory out to 16GB, but my MacBook Pro is stuck with 8GB and I regret not getting more memory. I decided to go with the Mac Studio Max. Starting price here in NZ is $3,599 NZD (equivalent to $2,235 USD). I maxed it out to 64GB and doubled internal SSD to 1TB (to avoid access speed issues reported recently). Now I’m shopping for a 49” monitor. While this feels over the top now, it was definitely a decision to future-proof to a degree.
Hi David. Just curious -- I did the same things you did to my 2010 iMac, and I also use it as display for my PC work-issued laptop. I'm now looking to upgrade as my photo editing apps are in dire need of upgrade (sluggish and using older versions of the apps). Do you think it's possible to use my 2010 iMac as monitor paired with Mac Studio? thanks!
As a photographer, I feel like I would need something new i 2 years or less if I went with a maxed out mini, where with the studio with the specs I’m thinking of I wouldn’t need anything new for 5-7 years. This alone makes the studio more cost effective in my mind.
As always, I enjoyed your video. I got the base M1 Studio Max in March and it was definitely a "want" rather than a "need" so I still have a bit of buyers remorse. However, it's an amazing computer that I'll have for a long time, so I've convinced myself I did some future proofing 😊. (just a side note, the base Studio Max starts with 32GB of unified memory, not 16)
Good information. I upgraded from a 2012 Mac mini with 16 GB RAM. I didn't think 8GB would be enough with Logic Pro. I'm pleasantly surprised with the base model using external drives.
In Australia M1 base model studio A$3099 M1 base mini A$1099 So crazy on price still thinking should i big mac the mini or just get the base studio what you 🤔 think.
My only problem with the M1 MacMini is that support only two external monitors (I need at least three) and it has only 16GB of ram. Let's hope the next one with M2 will overcome this limitations.
Great video, thank you! I've a MacBook Air M1 base and a Mac Mini M1 base. I am a 'normal' office, multimedia, internet user guy. Both are moooooore than enough for me. I am using cloud services, NAS at home and at the office so the 256GB SSD more than enough for me. Both Mac are quiet and fast, i love them. The Mac Mini's price in Hungary (Mid-Europe country) is about 875USD. I love your videos, keep going! :) Thank You!
Just discovered this channel. Great videos! As an editor, I feel everyone is sharing flawed logic regarding render speed being only a rare benefit. I just got an M1 Mini to test with a 4K H264 project (Panasonic Lumix source). The computer can’t reliably play an edit without dropping frames. Especially with LUTs, re-sizes, and speed adjustments applied. The solution to this is to *render the timeline* , which I find myself doing *constantly* . On a simple short edit, a Mac studio would likely save 30-50% of my working time due to render speeds. If it has the power to avoid rendering while cutting, that would be an even larger productivity leap. So faster renders are not just about export, but about quicker *uninterrupted workflow* (if the project is more demanding), which is vitally important for reaching that creative flow-state, impressing clients, and making money faster. (The mac mini may become my media server, but will not remain an editing machine)
Just to follow up, I upgraded to the Studio Ultra. The Mini was nearly unusable for certain projects… like 6 days of rendering estimated wait times. That same render was done in under 7 mins on the Ultra. No contest for me - the Studio is 100% in the *need* category for getting work done.
In Japan, the Apple Store sells the M1 Mac Mini base model at 92,800 yen, which at today’s (10 Jul ‘22) is about 680USD. I need one but am waiting to see the elusive M2 version first.
The Studio is superior in every possible way for any serious computing tasks and software development. The mini, although a very capable device, is also a very entry level machine suitable for casual, single screen user activities and software testing of performance on an original M1 chip. So, re the Studio, I (definitely) DO NEED IT!
I found the base Mac Mini to be limiting. I am a developer not really a creative type. But once you start running some processes the base M1 mini start slowing down. So you considered upgrading to a mini with 16GB and 512 GB drive and now you are pushing 1100 and still living with the restrictions in terms of ports, monitors, 16 GB of memory, etc. So I decided to upgrade to the base Studio. Having the addition ports is great as is 512GB of drive plus 32 gb of memory. In addition, my external drive in m.2 enclose is also faster.
Very nice video.. so I have a M1 Macbook Air and it works great, I don't use it for hardcore work but the entire experience it great. I got the M1 Mac Mini after WWDC and no new M2 mac Mini. I hate the M1 Mini, it's sluggish. I'm always seeing stuttering just in the interface. When switching app, desktop, or using expose. I am using it in a dual monitor setup, a 4K and a 1080P. It's possible it's an issue with the lack of memory on the 8 GB version. I'm never going to max out the Mac Studio but I hate slow computers. Just ordered a Mac Studio, hope it solves the sluggishness and future proofs my purchase. We'll see
Great comparison! For what I do I'm always on the fence between future proofing or pay for what I need since specs is always getting better and previous models gets more affordable.
You could probably buy the Mini - use it for a few years, then upgrade to the next Mini, and still spend less than the Mac Studio. However, the Mac Studio is a fantastic option if you need that additional performance!
I fully agree. Apple gave us the Mac Studio that nobody asked for ... then removed both the 27-inch iMac Pro and 27-inch iMac models and did not give us what we had been asking for ... a "mac mini pro" with a more powerful processor, more RAM, and more thunderbolt ports. However, Apple, Inc. learned one lesson from the G4 Cube which, was to stop selling your "like" systems. If they were still selling new 27-inch iMac's and a new mac mini pro model, then very few people would be trying to buy a Mac Studio (smile...smile).
Unfortunately the Mac Mini only supports a maximum 16GB RAM. This is not enough for my requirements as a web developer who routinely hits a consistent 20GB memory usage.
The base model of studio is 32G Ram not 16. So that is a big difference when comparing upgrade cost on mini to meet base cost of studio. You can't even upgrade to 32 on mini but if you could it'd be like $400. Plus $200 for SSD to 512 plus $100 Ethernet plus $100 hub. But w a slower chip, slower SSD, less gpu. Still cheaper Amd still a powerful system compared To my 2012 MBP. I've been debating but I'm leaning toward the base studio w just an upgrade on SSD to 1 TB. For music production. I think I would hit walls w an upgraded mini. I am tired of hitting walls. The base studio would take care of all my needs as far as Ram & Chip speed. Use external drives for libraries. And I should be good for liek 10 years. I might hold out a few more months to see if there's a new mini w the M1pro and 32gb. Which would be just fine.
I got the mini in July 2021 so no Studio option but one of the big limitations of the mini is that it only supports 2 external displays. I found a very nice DisplayLink adapter which fixes that problem but now I have the issue of RAM limitations. 24 GB would be perfect, 32 GB even better. I also have an iMac on my desk with 32 GB of RAM and run stuff that uses a lot of RAM but not CPU-intensive programs on that. So it works. But it would be nice to have it all in one system. So the limitations are RAM, number of monitors, GPU cores (I often use 80% of the GPU cores and that's with a partial workload). It would be nice to have something in-between but it would be difficult to price. Seven monitors is impressive. I only have 4 right now. I have gone back and forth between 4 and 5 but I'm using 4 right now.
My case was: I am 3D animator and Android/iOS Developer. I was wondering on upgrading my PC and my old MacBook or go full Mac and buy a Mac Studio. At the end of the day, exactly what this man said was exactly what I considered, that power was gonna be an overkill, because a Mac mini is enough for developing and compiling iOS apps and certainly I don't need any MacOS app for my work, where in that case that power would be busy and won't let me develop while it's rendering, so it doesn't matter if I have to switch between computers but it matters if I have one available to keep working while the other is working
I love my M1 Mac Mini but I am finding that my memory just keeps maxing out at every turn. When I’m editing on FCP, using Photoshop it struggles… forget about browsing the internet if I’m looking for content. Great balanced look! I feel the same way. PS.. My Mac Studio is arriving next week.. lol
Base Mac Studio comes with 32GB of ram, not 16. And if you config the Mini to some of the amenities that are included with the studio such as 512GB internal SSD and 10 gigabit ethernet, it's only $800 difference in price. If you could configure it with 32GB ram and included the cost of a good USB C hub as the mini can be just shy of enough ports even for casual use, the difference would be a mere $500. You can't even get reliable bluetooth 5.0 with the mini no matter the cost. Every content creator already released this PSA that the mini is good and pushes the idea that you don't "need" a studio. As someone who owned a M1 mini (and have been a mini user since inception), there are certainly merits for casual users to get a studio aside from "just wanting it".
I live in Santiago, Chile. The price for the base model Mac Studio as of dec 2022 is $2,529 but that includes a 19% VAT so the pre tax cost is $2,125. If you are a company, you can get the tax back under certain circumstances, but if you are an individual, you pay all of it.
If you take a Mac Mini M1, 16Gb, 512gb, 10 Gb Ethernet, ($1,200), add $400 to theoretically bring it to 32 Gb, plus a nice Thunderbolt dongle, you’re at about $1,700. Get a refurbished Mac Studio for $1,799.- The expensive Apple RAM pays for your M1 Max chip.
Most important reminder: want vs need. I have M1 MacMini and it was a great upgrade for me that’s going to do great for next few years - most work I do is video editing in FCPX
Apple should just use the Mac Mini case for Max Studio. Up to max single M1/M2 chip, not dual. The Mac Mini had enough cooling power, hey, it cooled Intel furnace CPU's. Also, on Mac Mini case you can add ports on the front and back. The port selection doesn't really matter as Apple can stick them in where ever they want. Don't need a bigger case for more ports. There are 5 sides in a Mac Mini case, Front, Back, 2 sides and Top. Apple just needs to CNC them in.
As a video editor I got both and I'd say get the Studio. The Mini is underwhelming for video tasks. Comparable with my old iMac. The Mini also only has 1gb ethenet as opposed to 10gb on the Studio.
I only wanted to upgrade to the Pro chip & 16gb RAM but there’s never a sale on custom configurations. So, I waited for a sale on the Studio base model and jumped on one at $1750. More computer than I need but it’s everything I could want & more for a few hundred more. Over the next 7 years, I’ll be happy with the purchase.
Excellent video as always Sagi. I'm going to wait for at least the M2 Studio or M2 iMac. Apple have been squeezing out some quick releases this last year. It wouldn't surprise me if they announce M3 studio/imac in September.
Considering that I could run a 16gb M1 Mac mini out of RAM with a multitasking office workload, I think more people might need the studio for RAM alone than anything else. A M1 pro or eve M2 with 24GB might alleviate that, but 16GB is not enough for ARM and 8GB is a joke unless you are more or less focused on one thing at a time.
In Australia RRP: Base Mac mini A$1,099/US$704.55 Base Mac Studio A$3,099/US$1,986.40 We regularly have 10% discount sales and you can use those occasions to negotiate a better price on the discounts.
I have no need whatsoever for the Mac Studio, but I bought an M1 Ultra version anyway. Why? I wanted a good small form factor Mac desktop with some actual horsepower, and I expect it to last me for years.
One of the worst decisions Apple ever made was taking the Mini backwards in terms of upgradeability. The 2012 model, you could add RAM later on. Every later version: They cheaped out with soldered on RAM. That's not consumer-friendly, that's not environmentally friendly.
Im from Mexico, the prices here are: Mac mini base model 887 dlls Mac studio base model 2562 dlls If you wanna uograde the prices are too expensive, I think mac mini will get a better price when mac mini m2 arrives.
Nice one ... here are the converted prices and options in Sweden... US $2.500 - Mac Studio M1 Max --- 10‑core CPU, 24-core GPU, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD US $5.000 - Mac Studio M1 Ultra --- 20-core CPU, 64GB RAM 1000GB SSD Are they good products??? I don't doubt it!!! But, it kinda makes more sense to just build a MONSTER PC for $5000 than to get the Mac Studio one...or am I wrong?
Thanks for the info! It all depends on what you’re doing. They are worth it if you’re using professionally for what they are best at. But if you’re a gamer - for example - PC for sure
A lot of people are willing to pay more for an operating system that they like. Some operating systems are just better suited for certain tasks. If you're a hardcore gamer, it would be a very poor choice to go with a MacOS. If you are professional developer, you will more than likely appreciate MacOS more. I get that last bit of advice can come off as a bit subjective, but it really reigns true especially if you don't really use Microsoft stuff.
@@evan7D0 How many people are gamers, vs 'professional developers' ? A Windows PC is clearly superior for the vast majority of people. Macs used to be able to run Boot Camp, which was wonderful: almost 100% compatibility with Windows software, and very good for Windows games too. With M1, Macs now can only run a VERY limited selection of software. And then people are going to pay $5000 for that crippled/gimped experience? Seems like a VERY poor value for the money.
@@evan7D0 It's easy to *choose* *premium* *parts* , buy them from Amazon or Newegg, and then pay a neighborhood PC shop $300 or $400 to assemble, test, and install Windows on the PC. You will still save THOUSANDS of dollars, compared to a Mac Studio. Trust me when I say that I work in IT, and have built many PCs over the years. Building now, in 2022, is easier than ever. Windows 10 has almost all the drivers built-in, it is now an easy process. You could have a tech-savvy friend help you. Since Windows has 92% market share, there are a LOT of tech-savvy friends out there. And Mac only has good support if you pay A LOT extra for Applecare, otherwise after 90 days (or whatever) you are on your own. Apple doesn't want to help you for free. Apple's turbo-charged ARM chip (from a cell phone) is certainly not sitting anywhere close to the top of all processors right now! The raw speed of a processor means NOTHING if it cannot run the software that you need, and run it well. Mac Studio with M1 Ultra is about $5000. At that price, -M1 is terrible for gaming -M1 is terrible for 3D modeling -M1 cannot run Boot Camp and 100% of Windows apps -M1 cannot be upgraded, repaired, or serviced -M1 is not compatible with many hardware peripherals -M1 native software is VERY limited Oh and by the way, a $2000 Windows PC with 12th-generation Intel processor, and RTX 3080 GPU is going to *SMOKE* the Mac Studio, performance-wise. Price vs Performance, Windows PC is light-years beyond Mac Studio.
I have used the m1 max Mac studio for 1 week and I returned it, because the 3d performance is way under my expectation so decide to use back pc for unreal engine stuff. Then for daily use and Xcode learning, 16gb Mac mini is a better choice for me (bought used for $700). I really like the smaller form factor and lighter weight of mac mini, and it is quieter too. I can connect to 2 monitors, enough for me.
No I don't recall Apple said it. I installed Unreal engine 5 in PC with 1060 3gb, and m1 mac studio, for the same game scene PC has 30fps Mac studio only 25ish..I was expecting 50+..
@@flymanhawaii m1 mac studio costs 1000's of dollars. 1060 3gb is old and obsolete. Try comparing m1 mac studio vs an RTX 3070, which costs less than $600 today. Test your game scene at 1080p high or ultra quality. Maybe 4x AA too. Mac Studio will get *blown* *away* by 3070 plus Ryzen or Alder Lake.
The prices in Denmark are $820 for the base model Mac mini and $2359 for the base Mac Studio. The studio monitor is $1835 for the cheapest model. We pay 25% purchase tax in Denmark.
Found this video to be very beneficial. I am struggling between selecting a Mac Studio (Max version) vs Mac Mini. I'm leaning toward the Mac Studio; however, your analysis was VERY beneficial. Keep up the great comparisons in the future.
David, I noticed your comment was 4 months ago. I am trying to decide now between Mini and Studio. Did you make a decision and if you were trying to decide now, would you make a different decision?
@@billg7813 I have not made a decision yet but leaning more toward the Mac Studio primarily because of the RAM increase and because the M1 is being phased out. The MAX version would likely hold its value longer.
I have an M1 Mac Mini 16GB/512GB that handles FCP pretty well. I do get memory warnings occasionally but not enough to jump to the Studio yet. By staying with the Mac Mini I was able to get the Studio Display that the Mini handles beautifully. It would be great to see a M2 Mac Mini with additional ports, RAM etc.
I have the same M1 Mac Mini configuration as you but with a 2k BenQ monitor and a second HD monitor. The HD monitor is likely to be replaced. I can’t make up my mind whether to go for a 4K monitor or another 2K monitor. Although I think the 4K monitor is more likely. I mainly use my Mac for photo editing.
Ports. More ports on the Studio. That said, I bought an M1 Mac Mini with a Satechi dock/stand incorporating an M.2 SSD slot and SDXC card slots. It's fine.
Happy with my Mac Studio.. I’ve had it since March.. I’ve come to realize that in my rush to purchase I didn’t spec it right.. I’m going to sell mine and repurchase so I can upgrade my internal HD and go with 64gb ram.. I am a sound designer and I do preproduction work so I just want to be future proof for the next 6+ yrs.. the Mac mini M1 is nice but 16 gb just won’t cut it
Hi, could you help me choose a 27” display for Mac Mini? I can’t afford a Mac display. I live in India. Almost all the monitors are available here. I work majorly in InDesign, Photoshop, and Illustrator. Currently, I am using 27” iMac (mid 2015). Wanted a Mac Studio but what I need is a Mac Mini. Thank god, I saw your video. Thank you for making this.
A much needed video... My elder brother wants Mac studio even though Mac mini is capable to do his job...and I showed him this video and finally he's ready to get mac mini... he's saying that maybe he'll go for macbook air M1 for more portability else maybe mac mini... Thanks for the video... Using ipad 9th gen from past 2½ months and I am happy that I haven't spent much and I've got my job done 🤗❣️...When I crave for something expensive...I just go with your video you just break things down and make me realise that the budget is the best option for me ...and would have been an overkill if I would have bought the expensive gadget... Thanks man.. You're just lit 🔥❣️
As a photo content creator in TH-cam and landscape photographer with strong requirements about photo editing (large PSB files, very large panoramas with deep post processing) and windows user I have to say that I have just begin to work (just to try) with a Mac Mini 16B and...IIT´S INCREDIBLE how it works...for me it´ enough to edit my photos, in fact Photoshop and Da vinci resolve runs faster tham my windows CPU (Ryzen 2700 + 32Gb Ram + rx radeon 580 + ssd nvme 2) even demanding plugins/apps like Dxo Pure raw...Just perfect. About videos I dont have really super strong requiermentes (just the normal youtube videos I edit) but anyway...If somebody just want to create "normal" videos and photo edit ...really you don´t need more than mac mini m1 16b for sure
You asked for comparative prices: In Australia the cheapest M1 Mac Mini is AU$1,099. The cheapest Mac Studio is AU$3,099. At time of writing (20 Oct 2022) those prices equate to US$693.44 and US$1,920.
im getting the mini with 1tb storage and 16 gb unified memory, was super temtped to get the studio but i think im better of saving the difference which is around a grand (extra 600 for the storage upgrade rip), atm i have a 2017 macbook air, maxed out storage because im cursed when it comes to hard drives, 256 gb 8 gb ram, mac mini should blow it out of the water, and i can still get a mac studio down the line. i do a little video editing but my work is in audio
I have been using computers for a long time and have found out that scrimping on a computer especially a computer that isn't upgrade-able is setting yourself up for future disappointment. Now don't get me wrong if all you ever have done is surf the web and doing some light computer then the mini is for you. However, if you do extensive computer the studio is for you (duh) and if you think you might be using computer for heavier tasks in the future the Studio PROBABLY is for you. Do be stuck with a 4-cyclinder when you need a 8-cyclider motor.
What I want is something in between, it will probably be a new formfactor but the specs will be more like a Macbook Pro, a Mac Mini with an option for a tier higher of M2 chips but more importantly, more I/O and the ability to have more displays without dongles, that’s what I wanted.
I want to get the M2 Mac Mini 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD and pair that with my 1TB SanDisk Extreme v2 SSD. I’m hoping they make the 16gb RAM mini the base model.
Thank you, for another excellent video. Your last comment for a more power M1 mac mini with a more power processor, more RAM, and more thunderbolt ports (a mac mini pro model) is just what, I had been waiting for Apple to introduce for over two years. However, a couple of months ago gave up waiting and picked-up a used 2014, trash can size 8-core/D700 Mac Pro and paired it with my Apple 27-inch Cinema LED (none thunderbolt) display and everything is working great (smile...smile).
Thanks for this great video !! I’ve been looking for so long for a reliable and detailed comparison between the two models. Here’s my question to you. I use 4 monitors for trading . Do you thing 16gb ram Mac mini would be enough (using plugable docking station) or would you go with the base model at 32gb ram (is that enough for 4 monitors?)
I mainly use my iMac for graphic design and rendering simple object in Blender. Upgrading Mac Mini M1 is huge leap I can render an object at a fraction of time compared to my 2011 iMac.
I think I'm going to bite the bullet on a Mac Studio, M1 Max, 64GB, 2TB. Need the extra USB-C ports, even with running a Caldigit Element Hub. Need the processing power too for running multitrack projects in Logic Pro.
I have the Mini M1 with 8g ram, it is certainly great for lightroom, photoshop, adobe audition and 4k video editing (With proxies). It only lags behind in video a bit but is still doable. this is in comparison to my core I7 10th gen laptop. The laptop may have a slight advantage, but minimal. I think I would get the 16g version to cutdown on the "spinning Beachball" hourglass stalls. I wouldn't hesitate to by the m2 when it comes out but 16gig ram
As a photographer getting into video, I was on the fence between the Mini and Studio, but if you're getting beachballs it's leading me in the direction of the Studio (no pun intended).
I agree that the studio is probably overkill for a majority of people. I’m in Australia and here the base Mac Mini = A$1,099.00 (US$768). The base Mac Studio = A$3,099.00 (US$2,165.75). US$ exchange rate for comparison as at 31st July 2022.
Great video as always, man. Once I heard this; "people always get what they want versus what they need" and we all know how publicity works. The Mac Studio is a nice piece of art though and so those monitors! Thanks for all the info. Cheers
Australia $ 1099 fit the M1 , $3099 for the studio , just replaced my 2019 iMac with a M1 mini with 16 gig and it had to be made and shipped , only got it a week after the M2 was released , and was panicking that apple pulled the same stunt with the ssd , as all my work is done on external Nvme drives so I only bought the 256 gig model , thankfully nothing has changed and it’s slightly faster than my M1 MacBook Air
Great video as always, I am in a debating stage to either get a Destop imac or a max mini But aiming more for a max mini with a good monitor, can you recommend which LG or a good 27 inch monitor that works well with the mini. One more question what software comes with the mini can I add photoshop or lightroom or any additional software to the mini 🤔
In my view, the last model of the 27-inch iMac is still the best overall value. They are equal in performance to a 27-inch iMac Pro but, you can add in extra RAM on your own, plus you get a built-in 5K display, keyboard, and mouse (smile...smile).
I have to have a windows machine because of software, have a rtx 2060 super and it blows my m1 away in Illustrator especially when there’s a lot of vertices but I like macOS way better, still I have around 3200 in my win machine and a comparable studio around 4g if it can handle the load, of course the win machine is literally a fan and a heater…
Prices in Apple Store Thailand: Base Mac Studio - 10 Core is $1,911.00. Mac Studio 20 Core is $3,825.35. Studio Display 27 Inch $$1,501.00 and 32 Inch $4,235.00!! Mac Mini M1 8-core only $817.00!!!
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I don’t think many buyers would be comparing the Mac Studio with the base Mac mini. A more realistic question would be, can I do what I need to do with a maxed-out Mac mini, or do I need to jump to the Studio model, for perhaps only a couple hundred dollars more. I don’t think you’ve answered that question.
This is my question precisely!!! 😬
Personally, I would go with the $2,400 Studio Max configuration. That's an excellent buy.
I am one of those few who had that question 😅 I was thinking on moving full to Mac because I am a 3D animator, so I really need power, I own a PC with 64GB of ram, R9 3950x and a 2080ti gpu... But I am also an app's developer so I need a Mac no matter what but actually the base Mac mini is perfectly enough, so I was thinking on upgrading my PC and my old Mac or go full for a Mac Studio, but I found out that with a Mac mini and upgrading my PC was more convenient for the price
Mac mini m2 pro, mac studio killer
Actually I searched out this video to see if the base Mac mini is suitable for my needs compared to Mac Studio cause I wanna know if spending £700 vs £1500 for what I’m gonna use it for.
Found your channel a while back when i was looking for a tablet and have been subscribed ever since. I like the way you go through every detail of a product one by one. Not too flashy or anything and No artificial hype. Keep it up man 👍🏼
Thank you so much for the feedback and for being part of the channel!
I bought a Mac mini right after the studio came out. Took the 16gb ram model and shoved a satachi dock with the sata m.2 drive. I threw in a 1tb drive in and haven’t looked back. 👍
Sehr gute Wahl !!! 👍
Genauso habe ich es auch gemacht…… jedoch 2 tb ssd.
Excellent video! Technically I only needed the Mini but I wanted to Studio. I purchased the Studio a couple of weeks after release and I couldn't be happier and feel that I will stay that way for many years and I just got the base model. Thus far it chews through anything I throw at it with ease.
Great comparison. For my use case, I’ve come to the conclusion that the Mini is sufficient and by far the best value. The only reason to delay is the rumoured release of the M2 redesigned Mini in Oct/Nov but that’s almost 6 months away and no guarantee that the M2 Mini won’t actually come out until next Spring. Also, I can’t see much scope for ‘redesign’ with the Mini - it’s just basically a box shaped desktop computer.
@@sebastianstubenreuther4373 hey Sebastian, did you get the mm1 ,I'm too confused about buying a mm1 or wait for the m2 version...
@@rajb3388 I’m waiting for the m2, if you know you’re getting that computer to last you for years and years, then I came to the conclusion to wait a couple months and get a better version of a Mac for hopefully the same price
I would be happy if the M1 Mini had an option for 32g RAM. This would be a big help for some with intensive media oriented apps.
or m1 pro as bto option
M2 Mac mini stepped into the room. Lol
Thank you for posting. For anyone reading these comments.. I picked up Mac mini M1 16g with 2TB of storage.. If I was buying today I would have gotten the Mac Studio for my work flow... The Mac Studio was not available or even announce, and in my work flow, my 2014 MBP 15" was needing to be retired.. the M1 Mini is great. for video editing FCPX is great. for editing my Blackmagic BMPCC4K BRAW it's capable, though if you got the 6K BRAW or higher I would think you would need to drop resolution. My 3D animation is vastly improved over my older laptop, though if I was making money rendering then obviously get Studio $4,000 version. I purchased my Mini because I knew SOMETHING better was coming but I needed SOMETHING NOW and I don't regret it. I got the 2Tb version since I knew at some point my Mini would become 2nd tier computer and be just for music creation with Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol (plug ins alone are over 1 TB of storage plus other 3rd party.. (if you ever had plug ins across multiple HDD's you know the nightmare it is) so I went for max storage. Next year I will likely get a Mac Studio.. and it might be the $2,000 version with some bumps up or the $4,000 hard to say. What I will say is that still most software does not utilize the GPU cores well or Apple's Metal, so a lot of the potential of the hardware is underutilized by 3rd party software. but it is improving. Rumors abounded for a year now about a higher tier mini M1 Pro/Max or a M2 around the corner, and maybe now it is around the corner (september) If not? get what you ned now. better to get something and vastly improve what you had before like some Intel laptop like I did.. the saving can be spent on a Blackmagic pocket cinema camera, or if you prefer a Panasonic G5/G6 or what ever your hobby/business is. For most though, honestly a Mac mini M1, 16g and say 512 or even 1TB storage is more than enough unless you know you have some real reason to spend more..
For me the formative difference is that the mac studio locks you into subscription based access to essential software like adobe premier. I am very willing to live with an older operating system if I'm not having to pay $60 a month for software. It's an absolute deal breaker for me. You can consider that "base price" to then be $infinity if you rely on this software for work.
I’m loving my Mac Mini! Was really considering the Mac Studio, but with that Hub and 16GB of RAM and 1TB I’m all set, and like you said I keep most of my stuff on external drives.
Awesome video man! I have a lot to catch up on : )
I really appreciate you sharing your actual experience Oscar - thanks for watching!!!
No heating issues with that hub?
@@ventoe3520 The hub is getting pretty warm but nothing too overwhelming.
@@TechGearTalk How much Ram does Monterey use on an M1 at the present update cycle?
My only concern is someone stated that the OS was using 13 GB out of 16 while totally idle. I think it was hooked up to a Studio Display. But do you see this kind of Ram usage at the moment on an M1 Mini?
My concern is that it’s already not very future proofed even just a few years later with the OS getting a bit chunky on the memory usage. However my wallet would prefer the Mini for certain.
A great comparison. I am upgrading from a 2011 27” iMac, which has been a workhorse but now suffers from unravelling version support from apps, so I mostly use it in target display model from my 2019 MacBook Pro. I’ve been able to upgrade the iMac myself, replacing the HDD with a SSD, and maxing memory out to 16GB, but my MacBook Pro is stuck with 8GB and I regret not getting more memory. I decided to go with the Mac Studio Max. Starting price here in NZ is $3,599 NZD (equivalent to $2,235 USD). I maxed it out to 64GB and doubled internal SSD to 1TB (to avoid access speed issues reported recently). Now I’m shopping for a 49” monitor. While this feels over the top now, it was definitely a decision to future-proof to a degree.
Hi David. Just curious -- I did the same things you did to my 2010 iMac, and I also use it as display for my PC work-issued laptop. I'm now looking to upgrade as my photo editing apps are in dire need of upgrade (sluggish and using older versions of the apps). Do you think it's possible to use my 2010 iMac as monitor paired with Mac Studio? thanks!
As a photographer, I feel like I would need something new i 2 years or less if I went with a maxed out mini, where with the studio with the specs I’m thinking of I wouldn’t need anything new for 5-7 years. This alone makes the studio more cost effective in my mind.
👏🏾👏🏾 my same thought process I’m looking to be future proof for the next 6+ yrs
As always, I enjoyed your video. I got the base M1 Studio Max in March and it was definitely a "want" rather than a "need" so I still have a bit of buyers remorse. However, it's an amazing computer that I'll have for a long time, so I've convinced myself I did some future proofing 😊.
(just a side note, the base Studio Max starts with 32GB of unified memory, not 16)
Thank you for sharing your experience AND for the correction! I appreciate you!
Good information. I upgraded from a 2012 Mac mini with 16 GB RAM. I didn't think 8GB would be enough with Logic Pro. I'm pleasantly surprised with the base model using external drives.
I just got a Mini M1 8GB and it can handle A LOT of plugins and audio, no issues at all
Trust me you need the mac studio if you want to edit fast and have a smooth experience. I just got my mac studio and it's fucking amazing
UK prices are Studio £2000 ($2400) and £620 ($745) we have always had near £-$ parity with no account taken of exchange rates!
Wow! Apple stuff is already way overpriced in US dollars, and Brits have to pay an additional 20% penalty.
In Australia
M1 base model studio A$3099
M1 base mini A$1099
So crazy on price still thinking should i big mac the mini or just get the base studio what you 🤔 think.
My only problem with the M1 MacMini is that support only two external monitors (I need at least three) and it has only 16GB of ram.
Let's hope the next one with M2 will overcome this limitations.
Maybe you can explain the benefit of using multiple monitors to me please since we have multiple desktops on a Mac anyway just by swiping.
Great video, thank you! I've a MacBook Air M1 base and a Mac Mini M1 base. I am a 'normal' office, multimedia, internet user guy. Both are moooooore than enough for me. I am using cloud services, NAS at home and at the office so the 256GB SSD more than enough for me. Both Mac are quiet and fast, i love them.
The Mac Mini's price in Hungary (Mid-Europe country) is about 875USD.
I love your videos, keep going! :) Thank You!
Just discovered this channel. Great videos!
As an editor, I feel everyone is sharing flawed logic regarding render speed being only a rare benefit. I just got an M1 Mini to test with a 4K H264 project (Panasonic Lumix source). The computer can’t reliably play an edit without dropping frames. Especially with LUTs, re-sizes, and speed adjustments applied. The solution to this is to *render the timeline* , which I find myself doing *constantly* . On a simple short edit, a Mac studio would likely save 30-50% of my working time due to render speeds. If it has the power to avoid rendering while cutting, that would be an even larger productivity leap.
So faster renders are not just about export, but about quicker *uninterrupted workflow* (if the project is more demanding), which is vitally important for reaching that creative flow-state, impressing clients, and making money faster.
(The mac mini may become my media server, but will not remain an editing machine)
Just to follow up, I upgraded to the Studio Ultra. The Mini was nearly unusable for certain projects… like 6 days of rendering estimated wait times. That same render was done in under 7 mins on the Ultra. No contest for me - the Studio is 100% in the *need* category for getting work done.
i appreciate your input!!!
In Japan, the Apple Store sells the M1 Mac Mini base model at 92,800 yen, which at today’s (10 Jul ‘22) is about 680USD. I need one but am waiting to see the elusive M2 version first.
The Studio is superior in every possible way for any serious computing tasks and software development. The mini, although a very capable device, is also a very entry level machine suitable for casual, single screen user activities and software testing of performance on an original M1 chip. So, re the Studio, I (definitely) DO NEED IT!
I found the base Mac Mini to be limiting. I am a developer not really a creative type. But once you start running some processes the base M1 mini start slowing down. So you considered upgrading to a mini with 16GB and 512 GB drive and now you are pushing 1100 and still living with the restrictions in terms of ports, monitors, 16 GB of memory, etc. So I decided to upgrade to the base Studio. Having the addition ports is great as is 512GB of drive plus 32 gb of memory. In addition, my external drive in m.2 enclose is also faster.
Just out of curiosity, what kind of developer are you? Do you prefer developing on Mac over Windows?
Very nice video.. so I have a M1 Macbook Air and it works great, I don't use it for hardcore work but the entire experience it great. I got the M1 Mac Mini after WWDC and no new M2 mac Mini. I hate the M1 Mini, it's sluggish. I'm always seeing stuttering just in the interface. When switching app, desktop, or using expose. I am using it in a dual monitor setup, a 4K and a 1080P. It's possible it's an issue with the lack of memory on the 8 GB version. I'm never going to max out the Mac Studio but I hate slow computers. Just ordered a Mac Studio, hope it solves the sluggishness and future proofs my purchase. We'll see
Great comparison!
For what I do I'm always on the fence between future proofing or pay for what I need since specs is always getting better and previous models gets more affordable.
You could probably buy the Mini - use it for a few years, then upgrade to the next Mini, and still spend less than the Mac Studio. However, the Mac Studio is a fantastic option if you need that additional performance!
It's always that: "but what if I need to edit a bunch of 24K footage" that gets you ;)
I fully agree. Apple gave us the Mac Studio that nobody asked for ... then removed both the 27-inch iMac Pro and 27-inch iMac models and did not give us what we had been asking for ... a "mac mini pro" with a more powerful processor, more RAM, and more thunderbolt ports. However, Apple, Inc. learned one lesson from the G4 Cube which, was to stop selling your "like" systems. If they were still selling new 27-inch iMac's and a new mac mini pro model, then very few people would be trying to buy a Mac Studio (smile...smile).
@@TechGearTalk look at my comment
Looks like a Scam
As always, your videos are clear, to the point, and useful for the tech user. Keep up the super work.
Thank you so much, Chris
Unfortunately the Mac Mini only supports a maximum 16GB RAM. This is not enough for my requirements as a web developer who routinely hits a consistent 20GB memory usage.
The base model of studio is 32G Ram not 16. So that is a big difference when comparing upgrade cost on mini to meet base cost of studio. You can't even upgrade to 32 on mini but if you could it'd be like $400. Plus $200 for SSD to 512 plus $100 Ethernet plus $100 hub. But w a slower chip, slower SSD, less gpu. Still cheaper Amd still a powerful system compared
To my 2012 MBP. I've been debating but I'm leaning toward the base studio w just an upgrade on SSD to 1 TB. For music production. I think I would hit walls w an upgraded mini. I am tired of hitting walls. The base studio would take care of all my needs as far as Ram & Chip speed. Use external drives for libraries. And I should be good for liek 10 years. I might hold out a few more months to see if there's a new mini w the M1pro and 32gb. Which would be just fine.
I got the mini in July 2021 so no Studio option but one of the big limitations of the mini is that it only supports 2 external displays. I found a very nice DisplayLink adapter which fixes that problem but now I have the issue of RAM limitations. 24 GB would be perfect, 32 GB even better. I also have an iMac on my desk with 32 GB of RAM and run stuff that uses a lot of RAM but not CPU-intensive programs on that. So it works. But it would be nice to have it all in one system. So the limitations are RAM, number of monitors, GPU cores (I often use 80% of the GPU cores and that's with a partial workload). It would be nice to have something in-between but it would be difficult to price. Seven monitors is impressive. I only have 4 right now. I have gone back and forth between 4 and 5 but I'm using 4 right now.
My case was: I am 3D animator and Android/iOS Developer.
I was wondering on upgrading my PC and my old MacBook or go full Mac and buy a Mac Studio. At the end of the day, exactly what this man said was exactly what I considered, that power was gonna be an overkill, because a Mac mini is enough for developing and compiling iOS apps and certainly I don't need any MacOS app for my work, where in that case that power would be busy and won't let me develop while it's rendering, so it doesn't matter if I have to switch between computers but it matters if I have one available to keep working while the other is working
I love my M1 Mac Mini but I am finding that my memory just keeps maxing out at every turn. When I’m editing on FCP, using Photoshop it struggles… forget about browsing the internet if I’m looking for content.
Great balanced look! I feel the same way.
PS.. My Mac Studio is arriving next week.. lol
Thanks for sharing! I can't wait to hear about how the Mac Studio works for you - CONGRATS!!!
@@TechGearTalk Thanks! I will for sure do a video on it…
Base Mac Studio comes with 32GB of ram, not 16. And if you config the Mini to some of the amenities that are included with the studio such as 512GB internal SSD and 10 gigabit ethernet, it's only $800 difference in price. If you could configure it with 32GB ram and included the cost of a good USB C hub as the mini can be just shy of enough ports even for casual use, the difference would be a mere $500. You can't even get reliable bluetooth 5.0 with the mini no matter the cost. Every content creator already released this PSA that the mini is good and pushes the idea that you don't "need" a studio. As someone who owned a M1 mini (and have been a mini user since inception), there are certainly merits for casual users to get a studio aside from "just wanting it".
I live in Santiago, Chile. The price for the base model Mac Studio as of dec 2022 is $2,529 but that includes a 19% VAT so the pre tax cost is $2,125. If you are a company, you can get the tax back under certain circumstances, but if you are an individual, you pay all of it.
If you take a Mac Mini M1, 16Gb, 512gb, 10 Gb Ethernet, ($1,200), add $400 to theoretically bring it to 32 Gb, plus a nice Thunderbolt dongle, you’re at about $1,700. Get a refurbished Mac Studio for $1,799.- The expensive Apple RAM pays for your M1 Max chip.
Most important reminder: want vs need. I have M1 MacMini and it was a great upgrade for me that’s going to do great for next few years - most work I do is video editing in FCPX
Apple should just use the Mac Mini case for Max Studio.
Up to max single M1/M2 chip, not dual.
The Mac Mini had enough cooling power, hey, it cooled Intel furnace CPU's.
Also, on Mac Mini case you can add ports on the front and back.
The port selection doesn't really matter as Apple can stick them in where ever they want. Don't need a bigger case for more ports. There are 5 sides in a Mac Mini case, Front, Back, 2 sides and Top.
Apple just needs to CNC them in.
I’m Australia I think the Mac Studio is like $3,000 and the mini is $1,099
As a video editor I got both and I'd say get the Studio. The Mini is underwhelming for video tasks. Comparable with my old iMac. The Mini also only has 1gb ethenet as opposed to 10gb on the Studio.
I only wanted to upgrade to the Pro chip & 16gb RAM but there’s never a sale on custom configurations. So, I waited for a sale on the Studio base model and jumped on one at $1750. More computer than I need but it’s everything I could want & more for a few hundred more. Over the next 7 years, I’ll be happy with the purchase.
Get what you want, not just what you need, and you’ll never be disappointed.
Excellent video as always Sagi. I'm going to wait for at least the M2 Studio or M2 iMac.
Apple have been squeezing out some quick releases this last year. It wouldn't surprise me if they announce M3 studio/imac in September.
I love the logic that you put in your videos. Great analysis and comments. I find you analyze things very accurately and put things in perspective.
Thank you very much for the kind words. I’m glad the videos are helpful. Thank you for being part of the channel!
Considering that I could run a 16gb M1 Mac mini out of RAM with a multitasking office workload, I think more people might need the studio for RAM alone than anything else. A M1 pro or eve M2 with 24GB might alleviate that, but 16GB is not enough for ARM and 8GB is a joke unless you are more or less focused on one thing at a time.
I can't wait for the option for additional RAM!
In Australia RRP:
Base Mac mini A$1,099/US$704.55
Base Mac Studio A$3,099/US$1,986.40
We regularly have 10% discount sales and you can use those occasions to negotiate a better price on the discounts.
I really appreciate the insight, Peter!
I have no need whatsoever for the Mac Studio, but I bought an M1 Ultra version anyway. Why? I wanted a good small form factor Mac desktop with some actual horsepower, and I expect it to last me for years.
CONGRATS!!! You got an absolutely incredible computer.
One of the worst decisions Apple ever made was taking the Mini backwards in terms of upgradeability. The 2012 model, you could add RAM later on. Every later version: They cheaped out with soldered on RAM. That's not consumer-friendly, that's not environmentally friendly.
Im from Mexico, the prices here are:
Mac mini base model 887 dlls
Mac studio base model 2562 dlls
If you wanna uograde the prices are too expensive, I think mac mini will get a better price when mac mini m2 arrives.
Nice one ... here are the converted prices and options in Sweden...
US $2.500 - Mac Studio M1 Max --- 10‑core CPU, 24-core GPU, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD
US $5.000 - Mac Studio M1 Ultra --- 20-core CPU, 64GB RAM 1000GB SSD
Are they good products??? I don't doubt it!!!
But, it kinda makes more sense to just build a MONSTER PC for $5000 than to get the Mac Studio one...or am I wrong?
Thanks for the info! It all depends on what you’re doing. They are worth it if you’re using professionally for what they are best at. But if you’re a gamer - for example - PC for sure
You can build a MONSTER PC for $3000 that will totally defeat, obliterate, the Mac Studio. Mac would end up in the ICU.
A lot of people are willing to pay more for an operating system that they like. Some operating systems are just better suited for certain tasks. If you're a hardcore gamer, it would be a very poor choice to go with a MacOS. If you are professional developer, you will more than likely appreciate MacOS more. I get that last bit of advice can come off as a bit subjective, but it really reigns true especially if you don't really use Microsoft stuff.
@@evan7D0 How many people are gamers, vs 'professional developers' ? A Windows PC is clearly superior for the vast majority of people.
Macs used to be able to run Boot Camp, which was wonderful: almost 100% compatibility with Windows software, and very good for Windows games too.
With M1, Macs now can only run a VERY limited selection of software. And then people are going to pay $5000 for that crippled/gimped experience? Seems like a VERY poor value for the money.
@@evan7D0 It's easy to *choose* *premium* *parts* , buy them from Amazon or Newegg, and then pay a neighborhood PC shop $300 or $400 to assemble, test, and install Windows on the PC. You will still save THOUSANDS of dollars, compared to a Mac Studio.
Trust me when I say that I work in IT, and have built many PCs over the years. Building now, in 2022, is easier than ever. Windows 10 has almost all the drivers built-in, it is now an easy process. You could have a tech-savvy friend help you. Since Windows has 92% market share, there are a LOT of tech-savvy friends out there.
And Mac only has good support if you pay A LOT extra for Applecare, otherwise after 90 days (or whatever) you are on your own. Apple doesn't want to help you for free.
Apple's turbo-charged ARM chip (from a cell phone) is certainly not sitting anywhere close to the top of all processors right now! The raw speed of a processor means NOTHING if it cannot run the software that you need, and run it well. Mac Studio with M1 Ultra is about $5000. At that price,
-M1 is terrible for gaming
-M1 is terrible for 3D modeling
-M1 cannot run Boot Camp and 100% of Windows apps
-M1 cannot be upgraded, repaired, or serviced
-M1 is not compatible with many hardware peripherals
-M1 native software is VERY limited
Oh and by the way, a $2000 Windows PC with 12th-generation Intel processor, and RTX 3080 GPU is going to *SMOKE* the Mac Studio, performance-wise. Price vs Performance, Windows PC is light-years beyond Mac Studio.
I have used the m1 max Mac studio for 1 week and I returned it, because the 3d performance is way under my expectation so decide to use back pc for unreal engine stuff. Then for daily use and Xcode learning, 16gb Mac mini is a better choice for me (bought used for $700). I really like the smaller form factor and lighter weight of mac mini, and it is quieter too. I can connect to 2 monitors, enough for me.
But didn't Apple say that Mac Studio can match (or beat) a PC with RTX 3090 card?
No I don't recall Apple said it. I installed Unreal engine 5 in PC with 1060 3gb, and m1 mac studio, for the same game scene PC has 30fps Mac studio only 25ish..I was expecting 50+..
@@flymanhawaii m1 mac studio costs 1000's of dollars. 1060 3gb is old and obsolete. Try comparing m1 mac studio vs an RTX 3070, which costs less than $600 today.
Test your game scene at 1080p high or ultra quality. Maybe 4x AA too. Mac Studio will get *blown* *away* by 3070 plus Ryzen or Alder Lake.
The prices in Denmark are $820 for the base model Mac mini and $2359 for the base Mac Studio. The studio monitor is $1835 for the cheapest model. We pay 25% purchase tax in Denmark.
Eventually I got an M1 iMac because I am too lazy to get a display, keyboard and mouse, lol. Everything nice and set and color matched. No regret
Found this video to be very beneficial. I am struggling between selecting a Mac Studio (Max version) vs Mac Mini. I'm leaning toward the Mac Studio; however, your analysis was VERY beneficial. Keep up the great comparisons in the future.
So glad it was helpful, David. Thanks for being part of the channel!
David, I noticed your comment was 4 months ago. I am trying to decide now between Mini and Studio. Did you make a decision and if you were trying to decide now, would you make a different decision?
@@billg7813 I have not made a decision yet but leaning more toward the Mac Studio primarily because of the RAM increase and because the M1 is being phased out. The MAX version would likely hold its value longer.
@@davidwalls2304 Thanks for the reply David. We decided to get the Studio thinking along the same lines as what you said. Thanks again 😁
@@billg7813 Bill, how is the Mac Studio working for you? I still haven't pulled the trigger yet.
I have an M1 Mac Mini 16GB/512GB that handles FCP pretty well. I do get memory warnings occasionally but not enough to jump to the Studio yet. By staying with the Mac Mini I was able to get the Studio Display that the Mini handles beautifully. It would be great to see a M2 Mac Mini with additional ports, RAM etc.
I have the same M1 Mac Mini configuration as you but with a 2k BenQ monitor and a second HD monitor. The HD monitor is likely to be replaced. I can’t make up my mind whether to go for a 4K monitor or another 2K monitor. Although I think the 4K monitor is more likely. I mainly use my Mac for photo editing.
Your voice is so good, I really like to watch you before sleeping
Ports. More ports on the Studio. That said, I bought an M1 Mac Mini with a Satechi dock/stand incorporating an M.2 SSD slot and SDXC card slots. It's fine.
Superb presentation, high quality video and excellent content. Well done and thank you! It's the Mac Mini for me.
Glad it helped! Thank you for the kind words and for being part of the channel!
Happy with my Mac Studio.. I’ve had it since March.. I’ve come to realize that in my rush to purchase I didn’t spec it right.. I’m going to sell mine and repurchase so I can upgrade my internal HD and go with 64gb ram.. I am a sound designer and I do preproduction work so I just want to be future proof for the next 6+ yrs.. the Mac mini M1 is nice but 16 gb just won’t cut it
Hi, could you help me choose a 27” display for Mac Mini? I can’t afford a Mac display.
I live in India. Almost all the monitors are available here.
I work majorly in InDesign, Photoshop, and Illustrator.
Currently, I am using 27” iMac (mid 2015). Wanted a Mac Studio but what I need is a Mac Mini. Thank god, I saw your video. Thank you for making this.
In India the base M1 Mac Mini starts at $822 and the baseline Mac Studio starts at $2406.
Thank you for sharing!
A much needed video... My elder brother wants Mac studio even though Mac mini is capable to do his job...and I showed him this video and finally he's ready to get mac mini... he's saying that maybe he'll go for macbook air M1 for more portability else maybe mac mini...
Thanks for the video...
Using ipad 9th gen from past 2½ months and I am happy that I haven't spent much and I've got my job done 🤗❣️...When I crave for something expensive...I just go with your video you just break things down and make me realise that the budget is the best option for me ...and would have been an overkill if I would have bought the expensive gadget...
Thanks man.. You're just lit 🔥❣️
So glad the video was helpful. I appreciate you taking the time to leave feedback. Thank you for being part of the channel!
As a photo content creator in TH-cam and landscape photographer with strong requirements about photo editing (large PSB files, very large panoramas with deep post processing) and windows user I have to say that I have just begin to work (just to try) with a Mac Mini 16B and...IIT´S INCREDIBLE how it works...for me it´ enough to edit my photos, in fact Photoshop and Da vinci resolve runs faster tham my windows CPU (Ryzen 2700 + 32Gb Ram + rx radeon 580 + ssd nvme 2) even demanding plugins/apps like Dxo Pure raw...Just perfect. About videos I dont have really super strong requiermentes (just the normal youtube videos I edit) but anyway...If somebody just want to create "normal" videos and photo edit ...really you don´t need more than mac mini m1 16b for sure
Thank you so much for sharing your experience!
You asked for comparative prices:
In Australia the cheapest M1 Mac Mini is AU$1,099. The cheapest Mac Studio is AU$3,099. At time of writing (20 Oct 2022) those prices equate to US$693.44 and US$1,920.
*the base Studio comes with 32GB ram. Now on sale for $1800 the difference with the mini seem a lot less.
There's a high-end Mac Mini coming in or around october. It'll possibly have an M2 Pro processor. I'm very much looking forward to that one.
Super excited!
The price in Brazil is outstandingly high, to put in perspective: the MacBook Air costs $10.000 on an Apple Store, and minimum wage is $1.212. Absurd
You forget to say this numbers are in Reais, and not in Dollars
Is M2 Mac Mini on the horizon?
Hi, i'm in Australia and the base mac mini is Au $1099 and the base studio is Au $3099
im getting the mini with 1tb storage and 16 gb unified memory, was super temtped to get the studio but i think im better of saving the difference which is around a grand (extra 600 for the storage upgrade rip), atm i have a 2017 macbook air, maxed out storage because im cursed when it comes to hard drives, 256 gb 8 gb ram, mac mini should blow it out of the water, and i can still get a mac studio down the line. i do a little video editing but my work is in audio
I have been using computers for a long time and have found out that scrimping on a computer especially a computer that isn't upgrade-able is setting yourself up for future disappointment. Now don't get me wrong if all you ever have done is surf the web and doing some light computer then the mini is for you. However, if you do extensive computer the studio is for you (duh) and if you think you might be using computer for heavier tasks in the future the Studio PROBABLY is for you. Do be stuck with a 4-cyclinder when you need a 8-cyclider motor.
What I want is something in between, it will probably be a new formfactor but the specs will be more like a Macbook Pro, a Mac Mini with an option for a tier higher of M2 chips but more importantly, more I/O and the ability to have more displays without dongles, that’s what I wanted.
Just bought a new Mac Mini M1 base model for $549 on sale. God bless the base exchange!
I want to get the M2 Mac Mini 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD and pair that with my 1TB SanDisk Extreme v2 SSD. I’m hoping they make the 16gb RAM mini the base model.
Thank you, for another excellent video. Your last comment for a more power M1 mac mini with a more power processor, more RAM, and more thunderbolt ports (a mac mini pro model) is just what, I had been waiting for Apple to introduce for over two years. However, a couple of months ago gave up waiting and picked-up a used 2014, trash can size 8-core/D700 Mac Pro and paired it with my Apple 27-inch Cinema LED (none thunderbolt) display and everything is working great (smile...smile).
Thanks for this great video !! I’ve been looking for so long for a reliable and detailed comparison between the two models. Here’s my question to you. I use 4 monitors for trading . Do you thing 16gb ram Mac mini would be enough (using plugable docking station) or would you go with the base model at 32gb ram (is that enough for 4 monitors?)
I mainly use my iMac for graphic design and rendering simple object in Blender. Upgrading Mac Mini M1 is huge leap I can render an object at a fraction of time compared to my 2011 iMac.
India Mac mini base model : 820 USD approx (USA price: 700 USD)
I think I'm going to bite the bullet on a Mac Studio, M1 Max, 64GB, 2TB. Need the extra USB-C ports, even with running a Caldigit Element Hub. Need the processing power too for running multitrack projects in Logic Pro.
That will be an incredible machine.
What computer speakers do you use?
In India base Mac studio is about 195000Rs.,for your refrence 1$~~76Rs.
in Canada the base M1 Mac Mini is $899 and the base M1 (Max) Studio is $2499 (Canadian $)
The M2 Mac mini pro is here. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Coming soon!
I have the Mini M1 with 8g ram, it is certainly great for lightroom, photoshop, adobe audition and 4k video editing (With proxies). It only lags behind in video a bit but is still doable. this is in comparison to my core I7 10th gen laptop. The laptop may have a slight advantage, but minimal. I think I would get the 16g version to cutdown on the "spinning Beachball" hourglass stalls. I wouldn't hesitate to by the m2 when it comes out but 16gig ram
I would not buy anything without minimum 16G and you're going to be limiting the future use of the machine if you aren't buying it with 32.
@@bb5242 i agree,
As a photographer getting into video, I was on the fence between the Mini and Studio, but if you're getting beachballs it's leading me in the direction of the Studio (no pun intended).
I live in Egypt and the base mac studio is 3,098.90 USD and the Mac mini is1,239.74 USD
I agree that the studio is probably overkill for a majority of people. I’m in Australia and here the base Mac Mini = A$1,099.00 (US$768). The base Mac Studio = A$3,099.00 (US$2,165.75). US$ exchange rate for comparison as at 31st July 2022.
This was so informative. Thank you.
Great video as always, man. Once I heard this; "people always get what they want versus what they need" and we all know how publicity works. The Mac Studio is a nice piece of art though and so those monitors! Thanks for all the info. Cheers
I appreciate you watching and contributing to the community.
@@TechGearTalk Always a pleasure, man
Well done sir; a very informative video.
Studio M1 Max base is now $1799 512SSD 32GB RAM
I have both 😂
I was able to find the Mac mini base model for 500 and I got the base model Mac studio for 1950. Both get used alot in my household
Brazil:
Mac Mini - R$ 7999.00
Mac Studio - R$ 22499.00 - This is equivalent to 2years salary of someone making minimum wage here.
Australia $ 1099 fit the M1 , $3099 for the studio , just replaced my 2019 iMac with a M1 mini with 16 gig and it had to be made and shipped , only got it a week after the M2 was released , and was panicking that apple pulled the same stunt with the ssd , as all my work is done on external Nvme drives so I only bought the 256 gig model , thankfully nothing has changed and it’s slightly faster than my M1 MacBook Air
Thanks for the info - and CONGRATS on the new Mac!
Im from india and apple brings products @ 1$=100₹ but actual rate is 1$=77₹
So mostly atleast 30% more
$2,229 for a Studio M1 Max 32GB 1TB here in Hong Kong.
This was very helpful thank you!
Great video as always, I am in a debating stage to either get a Destop imac or a max mini But aiming more for a max mini with a good monitor, can you recommend which LG or a good 27 inch monitor that works well with the mini. One more question what software comes with the mini can I add photoshop or lightroom or any additional software to the mini 🤔
In my view, the last model of the 27-inch iMac is still the best overall value. They are equal in performance to a 27-inch iMac Pro but, you can add in extra RAM on your own, plus you get a built-in 5K display, keyboard, and mouse (smile...smile).
I’m holding out for an M2 Max Mac Studio. I have no need for an Ultra but the graphics on the M1 mini is too weak for my needs.
Here in the Netherlands, the Studio is around 2300 euros, while the Mini is 800 euros. Both are base models, from the Apple store itself.
Thank you so much for the info! Seems to be a similar ratio in cost.
@@TechGearTalk No problem! Most countries that use the euro are similar to these prices, depending on taxes per country.
I have to have a windows machine because of software, have a rtx 2060 super and it blows my m1 away in Illustrator especially when there’s a lot of vertices but I like macOS way better, still I have around 3200 in my win machine and a comparable studio around 4g if it can handle the load, of course the win machine is literally a fan and a heater…
Prices in Apple Store Thailand: Base Mac Studio - 10 Core is $1,911.00. Mac Studio 20 Core is $3,825.35. Studio Display 27 Inch $$1,501.00 and 32 Inch $4,235.00!! Mac Mini M1 8-core only $817.00!!!
Greetings… what about music production. Does the Mac Studio have a big advantage over the Mac Mini in this area.
Just bringing the information that in Brazil the base Mac Studio cost R$20000,00 while the minimum salary / month is R$1200,00