I just like to point out that Florida has had 3 once in a hundred year hurricanes in my lifetime and I'm only 30. That means on a local scale we're dealing with once A hundred Year situations every decade. So they really should call it once every 10 years not once every 100.
Are the 1 in 100 year storms poorly named? (yes) Are the actual historical trends going back centuries known? (almost never) We are using insufficient data and making poor extrapolations from it. Depending where you start the graph, they can show increasing and decreasing trends with the same data, just different starting points. The truth is far more complex than it is made out to be.
@@c567591 yes you're right they're poorly named. However we've seen an almost continuous increase in the severity of storms and the number of storms being produced every single year for at least the last three soon to be for decades. That means that our records we have now from recent data points so that the scale is dramatically off on our estimates are wrong. We need to use and adjust the scale based on modern data. they haven't done that yet.
The scales are off, because of global warming. The earth is getting hotter th-cam.com/video/gJtOCSiaqhQ/w-d-xo.html and that causes more extreme weather patterns. Only fossile fuel industry propaganda says it's something else, but they're false. The once in x amount of time events are used by policy makers to prepare for disaster. Governments are simply not prepared for those larger disasters to happen as often as they're going to be. Is that scary? Yes. But it's more scary to deny it and make things worse.
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We already have floating cities, they are called cruise ships. Instead of dismantling those giant ones, just tie three of them together, and retrofit them: one for lodging, one for living, and one for research, and you got a floating city. This design is modular just like the one discussed in 2:17. I just hope they are really tighten down, and don't crash in land during one of those 1000 years events.
@@saynotop2w Not only to operate but to build in the first place. Last time I checked, the cheapest was several hundreds million dollars and many cost $1 billion to build. Still, I like the cruise ship idea and it would be great if their cost could somehow be brought down.
If they make modular islands, imo they should be more like super blocks with mixed use development to reduce the need to commute between them instead of doing single purpose zoning.
Finally 8 minutes in I get to something that doesn't fill me with foaming rage. The floating foundation concept for housing in Louisiana is actually brilliant and a version of it should be implemented just about everywhere. Modifying existing infrastructures also always an easier sell.
It’s interesting but like what we saw in NJ/NY the question is whether it makes sense to add these retrofits/lifts vs rebuilding a poor quality house. Anyone who has renovated a poorly built house and noticed the issues with code compliance will know that touching those is a can of worms that may be more expensive than a fresh builder grade house.
@@CrunchyBaguette you're right but that's still no reason to do tests and a few renovations full scale to see how this project works. And based on what I'm seeing it should be come part of the standard building code in areas that can flood especially Louisiana.
I'm not buying any of this. This is not affordable for all economic levels. What economic advantage or businesses that could be sustained on these platforms? How do you transport the working class into the city with all kind of weather events? This is a 1% utopia that provides no benefits to the general public.
Yeah the floating city concept feels new with murderous rage. But the amphibious foundation are floating foundation project from later in the video that's something I can get behind that has some legitimate good simple engineering behind it. And it's theoretically cheap enough of a retrofit to become standardized code for a new construction and a required code retrofit for old construction or it can be applied. Namely places like Louisiana and Florida that are guaranteed to flood in warm weather.
Yeah it’s probably really expensive. There are diagrams of ocean farms growing shellfish and seaweed below and tidal electric generators. People could work in those industries to help pay for the place. It’s hard to see those covering the expense though.
Interesting video. I am wondering about tsunamis. Will the floating cities float above the waves? I am thinking of the December 26, 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami and March 11, 2011 Japan tsunami. If they were further out to sea they would mitigate some of those issues. The closer to the shore the more risk for tsunamis. It would be interesting to see both a compute model and a physical tank model of a “floating city” next to a shore and how they would handle a large wave. Interesting new industry to watch as well as the retrofitting of houses to float in place.
No you cant surf a tsunami. Tsunami would destroy this city but its better than nothing. When the water retracts or the tsunami warning blows better move to high ground like our ancestors did.
Only if they are positioned in a way that the building follow the receding tide out to see before the Tsunami gathers momentum. The structures won't be very comfortable to live on if they are far out at sea, as it will be no different than a cruise ship I imagine.
I like the idea but what I think the biggest issue is that is not addressed is utilities. How are the gas and water lines going to move up and down? That's a big thing that's not addressed in this video.
@@sn5301679 Sewerage is again done with flexible pipes. On board all waste water is passed through a grinder that breaks down all waste into small pieces that won't block the conduits down the line. Then there's a waste water tank and a pump with a backflow stop that pushes the waste water ashore (persleiding = pressure conduit).
You know as a Floridian I could think of only one theoretical upside to a floating city. And that is if the platform can be towed it can be moved out of the way of major storms. Granted if given the option I just head up River in a houseboat but I'm a sensible person not trying to build a 100 trillion dollar problem to fix a billion dollar one.
Do you have a clue how hard it is to move a half million ton floating structure. It's doable but it takes weeks just to safely maneuver a few hundred miles. It's physically impossible for a half dozen of the worlds most powerful tugs to move such massive structures inside of a few days.
@@ph11p3540 yes I do understand how impossibly hard moving in entire floating city would be. I think the entire floating city concept is an incredibly stupid egotistical elitist waste of money. if you make it too big to move it all you're doing is creating debris that can be thrown around by a storm surge except this time it the size of a city block. Practically speaking you would need a nuclear powered engine and some kind of variable thrust guided system in an advanced computer system just to be able to control it and the number of places you would be able to park the floating structure itself is extremely limited. But if they can't move these individual building structures they're talking about all they're doing is creating a minimum several hundred ton floating battery ram to crush entire city blocks during a storm surge.
I actually kind of find this very ironic you see traditionally before air conditioning houses in FLorida were built on high ground and where they couldn't be built on a high ground they were built on stilt foundations so that even if the entire area flooded it would have to get to 220 ft of water to get into your house. So the principal the floating foundation house actually makes a lot of sense and is good engineering it's just hilarious because we already had a solution to the problem and up until like the 1940s.
Post WWII housing was a horrible idea, and we never should’ve done it. They literally went away from 10,000 years of trial and error and are blaming Millennials for wanting to do a bunch of ctrl + Z.
In the Florida keys I saw a lot of houses that consisted of a concrete pad with steel posts that supported a house. The house is accessed by a steel spiral staircase, the car is parked underneath on the concrete pad. The steel posts are long enough to be higher than hurricane swell is ever likely to be. It's not complicated and appears to work well.
There are examples of amphibious buildings. Riverboat casinos in the Mississippi River around Vicksburg sit in the river on the bottom in low water and they float held in place by chains in high water.
This might be plausible for places like the Netherlands and Singapore who are highly dense and rising sea levels are affecting them but at that point land reclamation is just a much better choice.
House boats have been known for years. What's new in this innovation ? Does this mean that sewage is directly injected into the water; it will become an open sewer around the settlement.
Probably have to use tidal electric power generation, composting toilet systems and water desalination. These all exist though are rare so many issues would have to be worked out at expense. Though I think this projects purpose is to work out all the issues to build floating cities.
BROAD Group manufactures something they call a B-Core slab. It's a steel panel with very thin steel cylinders inside it. It is used in skycrapers etc. due to its strength whilst using a lot less steel. Each B-core slab contains a lot of air so it can float. Their product brochure shows floating cities. Worth checking out.
I could see at least a few of those towns in international waters where people can experiment with different governance systems that are not based on coercion.
Except no, international waters are often extremely deep & the costs would be astronomical that it would only realistically become havens for the rich to do & get away with things they'd likely be unable to within a governed nation.
@@crazydopetastic They've already gotten away with a lot shady stuff already. Being in International waters won't male a difference except for more competitive governance by honest market participants.
How come as sea levels rose...the inhabitants of Earth didn't all go to the Himalayas? Did they forget where the Himalayas were? In the future they don't have access to Google maps? They have to rely on a girl's tattooed back?
Floating cities are kinda a scam (on a large scale anyway). What impact will this have on the coastal ecosystem? Nevermind the logistics of city services. We should just consider moving away from the coast. And also be trying to reverse climate change.
I know right. I can appreciate the desire to accommodate existing infrastructure (Coastal Netherlands, Miami, New Orleans), but we should avoid building out in flood plains.
We'll, It is a useful, realistic solution and innovation for areas suffering the damage of climate change. As far as I know, this model helps houses stay away from the flood, houses will be higher as the sea level rises, thus protecting people's possessions
Hey guess what's technically wetlands, the district of Columbia AKA DC the Capitol building of the United States. Miami Florida is a man-made Sandbar built into wetlands. Disney World in Orlando Florida are built on wetlands. The entire freaking state of Louisiana. Most of New Jersey and Long Island were originally wetlands. And several parts of what is now in New York City. Oh also St Petersburg Russia and Moscow are all built on wetlands and technically part of London is also wetlands.
This help reduce transportation affect on agriculture so no hunger or drought or out of season rhythm of season..because the train and truck hurt agriculture too much could threaten from the potential of disruption
Incredible how floating cities are the topic of conversation when governments can’t even manage money properly for their citizens. 💀 One step at a time, guys. 😂
Yeah I'm more concerned about our failed and failing infrastructure and electric grid than I am building a play pen for wealthy people that want to have a floating house.
I like the idea of "floating homes" along existing coastal areas, but something tells me there could be problems with extending coastal cities into waveless areas such as bays, harbors, deltas, wetlands, marshes, and rivers. To disrupt existing waterways by filling them up with more human habitations does not seem to me a likely beneficial endeavor. Our waterways are already experiencing irreversible destruction. What has happened to the UN recognition of population proliferation as an unhealthy imbalance to earth's resources, organisms, and plant life? I am suspect that there is no mention of sewage treatment or management in this video. Adding nitrogen to the oceans and especially to largely stagnant water collections has deleterious effects, such as blue algae. Nevertheless, I share the excitement about scientifically exploring all these possibilities.
Dumb concept, if you cared so much about your valuables. Just build another floor. From 1 floor to 2-floor single family house unit. Property value will increase. Whether the dumb idea of "floating" island or retrofitting houses. The end result is the same as you were to be building another floor to your single family house. Some guy in the beginning of the video telling us that he's the next elon musk... Rather than spending money on renewable energy and others to combat climate change. We will rely on some rich guy's land. that island is next to the home country (United States, South Korea, Taiwan, etc...) because no way they are going to build it with no protection from government. Literally 1984. With all of that aside, highly doubt it would survive an actual disaster. Maybe some light stuff like small flood that is 2 inch high or earthquake magnitude of 1.0 - 3.0 max. Note: To the people living in the "floating" island in the future, what jobs are they going to work? The only thing I could think of is Software developer and other high paying remote working jobs. So it's going to be expensive, Why? Upcharge for “amazing” view.
So when the floating house retrofits start to float in a flooding situation, are the plumbing, electrical, gas designed to break off? Still better than losing your entire house, I guess.
You can make concrete structures float. We have successfully built concrete boats, and floating oil platforms from concrete. This big issue is marine concrete construction is very expensive, high maintenance and short lived compared to their land based structures. Such structures only make sense for residential construction when land prices are hyper expensive and everyone is working in high paying high end jobs. These are pipe dream projects much like Palm and World Islands in Dubai.
"You can't stop the rising sea" as someone from the Netherlands I would disagree with this statement, for now, but it was only after the trauma of the 'Watersnoodramp' of 1953 we understood the need to invest in coastal protection. You would think the US would have responded the same way after Katrina, but your stagnant politics seem to have doomed you to fail
Love it so much there is a lot of material roof membrain tpo can be welded or make new bags that can be inflate under any house traila any city can be flowting high as a big wave allways playin with calm water
3,000 people on four acres of space hell no. I've been much rather be crushed by a tidal wave. Are drowned by the rising sea levels that have to live with that many freaking people crammed into a 4 acre sardine can. I grew up in a 4 acre private lot in a small town in Baldwin it's not that big.
No, it won't and the weather in the future will be unpredictable. The only way this work is that you build the city in a lake. When the lake expand the city will float on the lake instead of being sunk into the ground. The idea of putting a city at the atlantic ocean is stupid but you can do it at an inland ocean. The idea of putting the city near the sea shore is stupid while we need logistics we should try to improve railroads by building it on a bridge. Rome managed to transport water but we can't figure out how to build a rail on a bridge. As the city expand people will start to settle at the land and the center of the city is a lifeboat. If a disaster would occur only half of the citizens will die.
What we should do instead is make floating gardens like the mayans did non water waste Farming. And have fishes in there. chinampa, also called floating garden, small, stationary, artificial island built on a freshwater lake for agricultural purposes. Chinampan was the ancient name for the southwestern region of the Valley of Mexico, the region of Xochimilco, and it was there that the technique was-and is still-most widely used.
Too many goals trying to be achieved with this project. Ways too many people with their fingers in the pie, just let the chef cook the pie and everyone else get their fingers OUT! Unfortunately, the project will fail because of that. I like this idea because I like engineering, construction and architecture especially. Hopefully someone in the future will take this idea and understand the concept of Minimal Product Viability and stop trying to be all things for all people.
I think their project is going to fail because it's built on the same greed that required floating architecture to be built in the first place. It will collapse like an expensive house of cards or the people who built it and live on it will face the consequences of screwing everyone else over.
Also the myth of the genius inventor or the lead designer of a project being with omnipotent God who can see every single solitary aspect of how it's supposed to be designed and directed. It has probably resulted in more failed projects and then just about anything else.
We basically known that building on wetlands has been a stupid idea since we were still making buildings out of stone. We've known what the actual scale ramifications of destroying wetlands for housing was at least since the 1960s. They're going to develop it anyway no matter what we do. Short of making this area Federal property under the national Park service large areas of wetlands will be bulldozed and developed and result in flooding and what used to not be wetlands. Saying there's an incentive to prevent areas from retrofitting buildings to float in an emergency because it will lead the development of pre-existing wetlands is probably one of the stupidest excuses I've ever heard in my life. They're just going to do it anyway. Tell everyone new bulldozing the freaking barrier Islands to convert them into Fancy pants expensive condos was a stupid idea decades before hurricane Katrina destroyed the entire city of New Orleans.
@@robertagren9360 yes they also wetlands contribute to the local water cycle having a dramatic effect on microclimates. They're actually far better at storing and filtering water then most of our pre-existing systems and they're critically important for blocking storms from hurricanes. All of this is true and all of it has been true basically forever and it essentially known about it since the 1960s. The problem is all the people making the decisions care about is number go up. The rich and land developers will continue to destroy wetlands as rapidly as possible to replace them with whatever will make them the most money. No matter what we do. So to me using that as an excuse to not develop the amphibious slash floating foundation project is asinine. AKA painfully stupid.
@@madmachanicest9955 These previous wetlands becomes wastelands and people just move their operation elsewhere because the government work by panicking solving tasks and give smaller tasks to states. As an example is the interest rate who should had already been increased in 2020 when the unemployment rised. They knew, they had people who know how things work but they don't do it. Because it's easier to give money to states than solving them on your own. Money solve everything is our generation of corruption where everything is solved with Maslow's hammer which is the concept of the Sovjet and the symbol.
This concept would be better applied to open ocean fish farms.....which it is. This has no economically viable reason for existing. Have you ever driven through Utah? Or Saskatchewan? Hundreds of kilometers of empty highway as far as the eye can see. What's the point of spending these billions on floating cities that are going to be wiped out by the first category 5 hurricane? And what about fresh water delivery and sewage disposal? Is the garbage boat going to come every other Thursday?
I also like to point out that those disaster tables haven't really been updated to account for man-made global warming which is why we're having hundred to 500 year span disasters effectively happening every 15 minutes.
Just tell us already go watch water world and thats basically what where doing living on boats like not difficult to say. Also thirsty concrete and cement are a thing it lets water run through it not over it so it lets groundwater recharge not just deplete and dry up to nothing.
Is it not easier to move inlands instead? How is plumbing supposed to work in a house that rises and sinks with the ocean? Will all movable parts not be clogged by mussels. I'm not an engineer so maybe these ar all easy to fix...
It’d probably have use composting toilets and ocean farms of mussels , clams and oysters below to filter water effluent. I’ve seen some diagrams with ocean farms and tidal electric generators below and solar desalination above so it isn’t tightly connected to the shore.
I just like to point out that Florida has had 3 once in a hundred year hurricanes in my lifetime and I'm only 30. That means on a local scale we're dealing with once A hundred Year situations every decade. So they really should call it once every 10 years not once every 100.
Are the 1 in 100 year storms poorly named? (yes) Are the actual historical trends going back centuries known? (almost never) We are using insufficient data and making poor extrapolations from it. Depending where you start the graph, they can show increasing and decreasing trends with the same data, just different starting points. The truth is far more complex than it is made out to be.
@@c567591 yes you're right they're poorly named. However we've seen an almost continuous increase in the severity of storms and the number of storms being produced every single year for at least the last three soon to be for decades. That means that our records we have now from recent data points so that the scale is dramatically off on our estimates are wrong. We need to use and adjust the scale based on modern data. they haven't done that yet.
It sounds better on the news to say once every 100 years
Once in a hundred sounds scary tho. $
The scales are off, because of global warming. The earth is getting hotter th-cam.com/video/gJtOCSiaqhQ/w-d-xo.html and that causes more extreme weather patterns. Only fossile fuel industry propaganda says it's something else, but they're false. The once in x amount of time events are used by policy makers to prepare for disaster. Governments are simply not prepared for those larger disasters to happen as often as they're going to be. Is that scary? Yes. But it's more scary to deny it and make things worse.
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We already have floating cities, they are called cruise ships.
Instead of dismantling those giant ones, just tie three of them together, and retrofit them: one for lodging, one for living, and one for research, and you got a floating city. This design is modular just like the one discussed in 2:17. I just hope they are really tighten down, and don't crash in land during one of those 1000 years events.
Cruise ships stay operational because people pay millions per trip. They are incredibly expensive to operate in general.
@@saynotop2w And you think these floating houses are going to be affordable to the common person?
@@saynotop2w Not only to operate but to build in the first place. Last time I checked, the cheapest was several hundreds million dollars and many cost $1 billion to build. Still, I like the cruise ship idea and it would be great if their cost could somehow be brought down.
Looking at 0:22 I now fear this project will fail because project team members failed to locate Busan properly on a map…
If they make modular islands, imo they should be more like super blocks with mixed use development to reduce the need to commute between them instead of doing single purpose zoning.
*Water World,*
*Here we come!*
who knew Kevin Constner's Waterworld was ahead of it's time😀
Very true! Also Armageddon with the DART mission lol
Finally 8 minutes in I get to something that doesn't fill me with foaming rage. The floating foundation concept for housing in Louisiana is actually brilliant and a version of it should be implemented just about everywhere. Modifying existing infrastructures also always an easier sell.
It is a interesting concept. We need a full scale test to see how it performs and what drawbacks it will have. Then it can be properly evaluated.
It’s interesting but like what we saw in NJ/NY the question is whether it makes sense to add these retrofits/lifts vs rebuilding a poor quality house. Anyone who has renovated a poorly built house and noticed the issues with code compliance will know that touching those is a can of worms that may be more expensive than a fresh builder grade house.
@@CrunchyBaguette you're right but that's still no reason to do tests and a few renovations full scale to see how this project works. And based on what I'm seeing it should be come part of the standard building code in areas that can flood especially Louisiana.
I’m with you, this focus on building new cities and abandoning current ones is infuriating in how boneheaded, wasteful, and heartless it is.
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I'm not buying any of this. This is not affordable for all economic levels. What economic advantage or businesses that could be sustained on these platforms? How do you transport the working class into the city with all kind of weather events?
This is a 1% utopia that provides no benefits to the general public.
the first phones were for the rich only, then by scaling up it became affordable to a lot of people
Yeah the floating city concept feels new with murderous rage. But the amphibious foundation are floating foundation project from later in the video that's something I can get behind that has some legitimate good simple engineering behind it. And it's theoretically cheap enough of a retrofit to become standardized code for a new construction and a required code retrofit for old construction or it can be applied. Namely places like Louisiana and Florida that are guaranteed to flood in warm weather.
@@moneyobsessed are we just supposed to rebuild all our coastal cities from scratch? talk about pollution
Yeah it’s probably really expensive. There are diagrams of ocean farms growing shellfish and seaweed below and tidal electric generators. People could work in those industries to help pay for the place. It’s hard to see those covering the expense though.
Interesting video. I am wondering about tsunamis. Will the floating cities float above the waves? I am thinking of the December 26, 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami and March 11, 2011 Japan tsunami. If they were further out to sea they would mitigate some of those issues. The closer to the shore the more risk for tsunamis. It would be interesting to see both a compute model and a physical tank model of a “floating city” next to a shore and how they would handle a large wave. Interesting new industry to watch as well as the retrofitting of houses to float in place.
You ever heard of Atlantis?
Yes they can be tsunami proof, although the architectural requirements would be much more intensive
No you cant surf a tsunami. Tsunami would destroy this city but its better than nothing. When the water retracts or the tsunami warning blows better move to high ground like our ancestors did.
Busan has sea walls located to where they would reduce the tsunami waves power in the bay area where these modular islands will be built
Only if they are positioned in a way that the building follow the receding tide out to see before the Tsunami gathers momentum. The structures won't be very comfortable to live on if they are far out at sea, as it will be no different than a cruise ship I imagine.
Floating infrastructure is by far the coolest, but that also means the most expensive maintenance. I think we should go with earthships.
I like the idea but what I think the biggest issue is that is not addressed is utilities. How are the gas and water lines going to move up and down? That's a big thing that's not addressed in this video.
Why would they have gas lines?
Drinking water and gas is plausible with flexible pipe.
The bigger issue is the toilet waste.
Water distillation stations that are likely part of the islands design.
@@sn5301679 Sewerage is again done with flexible pipes. On board all waste water is passed through a grinder that breaks down all waste into small pieces that won't block the conduits down the line. Then there's a waste water tank and a pump with a backflow stop that pushes the waste water ashore (persleiding = pressure conduit).
You know as a Floridian I could think of only one theoretical upside to a floating city. And that is if the platform can be towed it can be moved out of the way of major storms. Granted if given the option I just head up River in a houseboat but I'm a sensible person not trying to build a 100 trillion dollar problem to fix a billion dollar one.
Do you have a clue how hard it is to move a half million ton floating structure. It's doable but it takes weeks just to safely maneuver a few hundred miles. It's physically impossible for a half dozen of the worlds most powerful tugs to move such massive structures inside of a few days.
@@ph11p3540 yes I do understand how impossibly hard moving in entire floating city would be. I think the entire floating city concept is an incredibly stupid egotistical elitist waste of money. if you make it too big to move it all you're doing is creating debris that can be thrown around by a storm surge except this time it the size of a city block.
Practically speaking you would need a nuclear powered engine and some kind of variable thrust guided system in an advanced computer system just to be able to control it and the number of places you would be able to park the floating structure itself is extremely limited. But if they can't move these individual building structures they're talking about all they're doing is creating a minimum several hundred ton floating battery ram to crush entire city blocks during a storm surge.
I actually kind of find this very ironic you see traditionally before air conditioning houses in FLorida were built on high ground and where they couldn't be built on a high ground they were built on stilt foundations so that even if the entire area flooded it would have to get to 220 ft of water to get into your house. So the principal the floating foundation house actually makes a lot of sense and is good engineering it's just hilarious because we already had a solution to the problem and up until like the 1940s.
Post WWII housing was a horrible idea, and we never should’ve done it. They literally went away from 10,000 years of trial and error and are blaming Millennials for wanting to do a bunch of ctrl + Z.
In the Florida keys I saw a lot of houses that consisted of a concrete pad with steel posts that supported a house. The house is accessed by a steel spiral staircase, the car is parked underneath on the concrete pad. The steel posts are long enough to be higher than hurricane swell is ever likely to be. It's not complicated and appears to work well.
Aztecs did it, chinampas. Worth looking at the example for food growing.
There are examples of amphibious buildings. Riverboat casinos in the Mississippi River around Vicksburg sit in the river on the bottom in low water and they float held in place by chains in high water.
I love it!!! Innovation at it's purest.
This might be plausible for places like the Netherlands and Singapore who are highly dense and rising sea levels are affecting them but at that point land reclamation is just a much better choice.
Yes until its not economic viable. we are getting closer to where sand is much more valuable resources than to make land in the sea.
@@gamh03 isn't makin land in the sea what sand will be used for?
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The interesting part will be the utilities and the foundation with how it deals with erosion
House boats have been known for years. What's new in this innovation ? Does this mean that sewage is directly injected into the water; it will become an open sewer around the settlement.
Um, what about sewer, water supply, and most other utilities buried underground that tie into the house? You didn’t mention any of that stuff?
Probably have to use tidal electric power generation, composting toilet systems and water desalination. These all exist though are rare so many issues would have to be worked out at expense. Though I think this projects purpose is to work out all the issues to build floating cities.
@@karld1791 you are right but I was referring to the idea of retrofitting existing houses to make them able to float.
Wouldn’t a strong hurricane completely destroy a floating house lol or sweep it away into the ocean or something
great idea and COMMON sense.
BROAD Group manufactures something they call a B-Core slab. It's a steel panel with very thin steel cylinders inside it. It is used in skycrapers etc. due to its strength whilst using a lot less steel. Each B-core slab contains a lot of air so it can float. Their product brochure shows floating cities. Worth checking out.
I could see at least a few of those towns in international waters where people can experiment with different governance systems that are not based on coercion.
Except no, international waters are often extremely deep & the costs would be astronomical that it would only realistically become havens for the rich to do & get away with things they'd likely be unable to within a governed nation.
@@crazydopetastic that part of the architecture was a joke lol
@@crazydopetastic They've already gotten away with a lot shady stuff already. Being in International waters won't male a difference except for more competitive governance by honest market participants.
How do you deal with waves? I have a possible Category 4 heading towards me on the Florida West Coast - would something like this survive?
if you want natural ones then mangroves, and if its not possible you can build a post or tetrapods that somewhat make the waves weak
It's like the prequel to Water World
How come as sea levels rose...the inhabitants of Earth didn't all go to the Himalayas? Did they forget where the Himalayas were? In the future they don't have access to Google maps? They have to rely on a girl's tattooed back?
@@drmodestoesq maybe some escaped to the outer space , ie Mars for all we know, and those the couples that's on top of the Everest didn't get the memo
So basically the first 10 seconds of this video are they all companies going FYGM is a tune of 84 billion dollars in flood damage a year.
If a billionaire invests in something like this, it will be as a tax dodge.
Taxation is extortion!
Yes. Not by choice though 😅
Much more cost effective to just move to high ground. We don't need the 'Waterworld' option.
Floating city at Busan... to keep the zombies out, makes sense
There goes the sunlight for all the plants and creatures underneath those floating structures.
Back to the Future Part II said we'd have hoverboards by 2015. It's 2022, we still don't.
But they did invent a Star Wars style speeder.
Hell, we barely even have consistent electricity anymore
I think it’s okay to let Florida sink. Sometimes nature knows best.
If Florida Man is any indication, maybe you're right.
Theme parks: Are we jokes to you
They never watch waterworld? It failed.
Floating cities are kinda a scam (on a large scale anyway). What impact will this have on the coastal ecosystem? Nevermind the logistics of city services. We should just consider moving away from the coast. And also be trying to reverse climate change.
I know right. I can appreciate the desire to accommodate existing infrastructure (Coastal Netherlands, Miami, New Orleans), but we should avoid building out in flood plains.
We'll, It is a useful, realistic solution and innovation for areas suffering the damage of climate change. As far as I know, this model helps houses stay away from the flood, houses will be higher as the sea level rises, thus protecting people's possessions
Why is the audio on most CNBC video so low
I'll stick with boats or houseboats - problem solved.
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Those city islands sound good in nature but it will be little cities for the rich.
Hey guess what's technically wetlands, the district of Columbia AKA DC the Capitol building of the United States. Miami Florida is a man-made Sandbar built into wetlands. Disney World in Orlando Florida are built on wetlands. The entire freaking state of Louisiana. Most of New Jersey and Long Island were originally wetlands. And several parts of what is now in New York City. Oh also St Petersburg Russia and Moscow are all built on wetlands and technically part of London is also wetlands.
This help reduce transportation affect on agriculture so no hunger or drought or out of season rhythm of season..because the train and truck hurt agriculture too much could threaten from the potential of disruption
Incredible how floating cities are the topic of conversation when governments can’t even manage money properly for their citizens. 💀 One step at a time, guys. 😂
Have you ever heard the phrase "Platforms are stronger than governments "??? It's literally built on a platform 😭😭😭😭😭
Yeah I'm more concerned about our failed and failing infrastructure and electric grid than I am building a play pen for wealthy people that want to have a floating house.
I like the idea of "floating homes" along existing coastal areas, but something tells me there could be problems with extending coastal cities into waveless areas such as bays, harbors, deltas, wetlands, marshes, and rivers. To disrupt existing waterways by filling them up with more human habitations does not seem to me a likely beneficial endeavor. Our waterways are already experiencing irreversible destruction. What has happened to the UN recognition of population proliferation as an unhealthy imbalance to earth's resources, organisms, and plant life? I am suspect that there is no mention of sewage treatment or management in this video. Adding nitrogen to the oceans and especially to largely stagnant water collections has deleterious effects, such as blue algae. Nevertheless, I share the excitement about scientifically exploring all these possibilities.
It's gotta withstand rising sea level, flood, hurricanes, and zombie apocalypse since it's near Busan.
I'm Korean and didn't know this grand planning was going in action rn 😳
Dumb concept, if you cared so much about your valuables. Just build another floor. From 1 floor to 2-floor single family house unit. Property value will increase.
Whether the dumb idea of "floating" island or retrofitting houses. The end result is the same as you were to be building another floor to your single family house.
Some guy in the beginning of the video telling us that he's the next elon musk... Rather than spending money on renewable energy and others to combat climate change. We will rely on some rich guy's land. that island is next to the home country (United States, South Korea, Taiwan, etc...) because no way they are going to build it with no protection from government. Literally 1984.
With all of that aside, highly doubt it would survive an actual disaster. Maybe some light stuff like small flood that is 2 inch high or earthquake magnitude of 1.0 - 3.0 max.
Note: To the people living in the "floating" island in the future, what jobs are they going to work? The only thing I could think of is Software developer and other high paying remote working jobs. So it's going to be expensive, Why? Upcharge for “amazing” view.
Angrier and angrier and angrier as the flooding lifted me higher and higher and higher
The wizard of Oz much? Be in California and get hit with a storm and wake up in Australia lmaoooo
What is to protect these islands from storm surge, strong winds, heavy downpours, and simply big waves
This won't deal with storm surges. Storm gates need to be built for all coastal port cities.
I laughed so hard when she said they jack the house up a little and the house floats away
So when the floating house retrofits start to float in a flooding situation, are the plumbing, electrical, gas designed to break off? Still better than losing your entire house, I guess.
3 acres for 3,000 people? That seems kind of small
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Oh wow
Cnbc needs to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants trees
So we can more directly pollute the ocean right?
I can see this happening
This floating city concept reminds me of Volume 3 episode 1 of Love, Death and Robots. Human still end up killing themselves in floating cities.
no one is talking about water and sewer - those pipes do not move well at all and the angel the pipes are at is extremely critical
You can make concrete structures float. We have successfully built concrete boats, and floating oil platforms from concrete. This big issue is marine concrete construction is very expensive, high maintenance and short lived compared to their land based structures. Such structures only make sense for residential construction when land prices are hyper expensive and everyone is working in high paying high end jobs. These are pipe dream projects much like Palm and World Islands in Dubai.
"You can't stop the rising sea" as someone from the Netherlands I would disagree with this statement, for now, but it was only after the trauma of the 'Watersnoodramp' of 1953 we understood the need to invest in coastal protection. You would think the US would have responded the same way after Katrina, but your stagnant politics seem to have doomed you to fail
As an architect in nyc..great concept but it has limitations and may not be all that economically feasible.
Love it so much there is a lot of material roof membrain tpo can be welded or make new bags that can be inflate under any house traila any city can be flowting high as a big wave allways playin with calm water
This looks better than that "The Line" city 😆
3,000 people on four acres of space hell no. I've been much rather be crushed by a tidal wave. Are drowned by the rising sea levels that have to live with that many freaking people crammed into a 4 acre sardine can. I grew up in a 4 acre private lot in a small town in Baldwin it's not that big.
will cities that float survive oceanic storms with those big waves?
No, it won't and the weather in the future will be unpredictable. The only way this work is that you build the city in a lake.
When the lake expand the city will float on the lake instead of being sunk into the ground. The idea of putting a city at the atlantic ocean is stupid but you can do it at an inland ocean. The idea of putting the city near the sea shore is stupid while we need logistics we should try to improve railroads by building it on a bridge. Rome managed to transport water but we can't figure out how to build a rail on a bridge.
As the city expand people will start to settle at the land and the center of the city is a lifeboat. If a disaster would occur only half of the citizens will die.
What we should do instead is make floating gardens like the mayans did non water waste Farming. And have fishes in there.
chinampa, also called floating garden, small, stationary, artificial island built on a freshwater lake for agricultural purposes. Chinampan was the ancient name for the southwestern region of the Valley of Mexico, the region of Xochimilco, and it was there that the technique was-and is still-most widely used.
Chinampas are amazing!
Isn’t that part of world always dealing with tsunamis?
It's a fallacy that the planet can sustain 9 billion humans in a sustainable way while also ensuring them a high quality life.
maybe we all can survive in poverty but "experience" high quality virtual life in the internet. Nobody will know
How will these houses manage if there is tsunami?
Buy a million dollar condo that depreciates like a boat. Great idea.
Too many goals trying to be achieved with this project. Ways too many people with their fingers in the pie, just let the chef cook the pie and everyone else get their fingers OUT! Unfortunately, the project will fail because of that. I like this idea because I like engineering, construction and architecture especially. Hopefully someone in the future will take this idea and understand the concept of Minimal Product Viability and stop trying to be all things for all people.
I think their project is going to fail because it's built on the same greed that required floating architecture to be built in the first place. It will collapse like an expensive house of cards or the people who built it and live on it will face the consequences of screwing everyone else over.
Also the myth of the genius inventor or the lead designer of a project being with omnipotent God who can see every single solitary aspect of how it's supposed to be designed and directed. It has probably resulted in more failed projects and then just about anything else.
Seems this woman is good at work. How do I get in contact with her
"Busan, South Korea", proceeds to show a spot close to Hong Kong instead.
It need wave breaker fence that break large wave and generate electricity
We already have garbage island’s out there tho.
We basically known that building on wetlands has been a stupid idea since we were still making buildings out of stone. We've known what the actual scale ramifications of destroying wetlands for housing was at least since the 1960s. They're going to develop it anyway no matter what we do. Short of making this area Federal property under the national Park service large areas of wetlands will be bulldozed and developed and result in flooding and what used to not be wetlands. Saying there's an incentive to prevent areas from retrofitting buildings to float in an emergency because it will lead the development of pre-existing wetlands is probably one of the stupidest excuses I've ever heard in my life. They're just going to do it anyway. Tell everyone new bulldozing the freaking barrier Islands to convert them into Fancy pants expensive condos was a stupid idea decades before hurricane Katrina destroyed the entire city of New Orleans.
Wetlands absorb carbon and prevent dehydration of the land. Reducing dust and pollution.
@@robertagren9360 yes they also wetlands contribute to the local water cycle having a dramatic effect on microclimates. They're actually far better at storing and filtering water then most of our pre-existing systems and they're critically important for blocking storms from hurricanes. All of this is true and all of it has been true basically forever and it essentially known about it since the 1960s. The problem is all the people making the decisions care about is number go up.
The rich and land developers will continue to destroy wetlands as rapidly as possible to replace them with whatever will make them the most money. No matter what we do.
So to me using that as an excuse to not develop the amphibious slash floating foundation project is asinine. AKA painfully stupid.
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These previous wetlands becomes wastelands and people just move their operation elsewhere because the government work by panicking solving tasks and give smaller tasks to states.
As an example is the interest rate who should had already been increased in 2020 when the unemployment rised. They knew, they had people who know how things work but they don't do it. Because it's easier to give money to states than solving them on your own. Money solve everything is our generation of corruption where everything is solved with Maslow's hammer which is the concept of the Sovjet and the symbol.
No. There's plenty of land in the world
This concept would be better applied to open ocean fish farms.....which it is.
This has no economically viable reason for existing. Have you ever driven through Utah? Or Saskatchewan? Hundreds of kilometers of empty highway as far as the eye can see. What's the point of spending these billions on floating cities that are going to be wiped out by the first category 5 hurricane? And what about fresh water delivery and sewage disposal? Is the garbage boat going to come every other Thursday?
I also like to point out that those disaster tables haven't really been updated to account for man-made global warming which is why we're having hundred to 500 year span disasters effectively happening every 15 minutes.
Yall can do high floating concrete high wys to floating citys high
I am in would love it
No way that these cities won't be a have and have not scenario. There absolutely will be rich ones and poor ones.
Just tell us already go watch water world and thats basically what where doing living on boats like not difficult to say.
Also thirsty concrete and cement are a thing it lets water run through it not over it so it lets groundwater recharge not just deplete and dry up to nothing.
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Amazing green lands green roof green wals for the middle hose all the houses sealed couted
It can move if bad weather or war
How about we...try to slow down climate change instead of building floating cities or colonies on Mars?
Waterworld in the house! 😂👏🏾👍🏾
Sad that the human race is failing to solve climate change. And that ideas and plan like this are needed
Is it not easier to move inlands instead? How is plumbing supposed to work in a house that rises and sinks with the ocean? Will all movable parts not be clogged by mussels. I'm not an engineer so maybe these ar all easy to fix...
It’d probably have use composting toilets and ocean farms of mussels , clams and oysters below to filter water effluent. I’ve seen some diagrams with ocean farms and tidal electric generators below and solar desalination above so it isn’t tightly connected to the shore.
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That's definitely not South Korea.
Yes it is
@@gladcs they have updated their video now. Earlier it was showing near Hong Kong.
If this is a UN project and costs over $100B how much of that is out of the UK budget?
Just like flying cars, im confused. Isn’t a floating house a boat? Just like a flying car is a plane?