Why Are There 100+ Sunken WW2 Warplanes At The Bottom Of Lake Michigan? | Heroes On Deck | Timeline
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- More than a hundred WW2 aircraft rest on the bottom of Lake Michigan, just off the Chicago shoreline. This is the story of how they got there. During the Second World War, the US Navy trained over 15,000 carrier pilots on two makeshift 'flattops', both former coal-fired, side-wheel passenger steamers. Not every pilot landed successfully on the pitching decks of the USS Wolverine and USS Sable, and many aircraft went to the bottom of Lake Michigan. This is the story of the recovery of those rare warbirds and the ingenious training programme that changed the course of the war in the Pacific.
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Still very Grateful to those Brave Men
For my freedom ❤
This documentary should be shown in every school every year! What an amazing lesson in our history.
This is why the United States was respected worldwide once before Biden destroyed it purposely ad he hates YOU ! Will sell-off your defence abilities as he reduced the oil reserves to a critical level and will not replenish it but wants the US at the mercy position! Traitor!
I already sent it to my kid. I can't expect that from this Education System.
Agreed!!
Totally agreed
But this is actually educational! Schools seem to have a problem teaching "real subjects"!
Looking at Grant Young when he remember the Yamato makes you realize that time does not heal all wounds.
Just came here to say this. That look. 😢
Yes, even though they were the enemy, he realized what had just happened when the Yamato exploded. She went down with 3,055 crewmen out of 3,332 total.
He went through the gambit of human emotions. The joy realizing he survived his run and they destroyed the ship…. Joy he was still alive…. But then realization that he partook in the killing of 5000 men. You can definitely see that has stayed with him.
NOR WILL IT EVER!...... SADLY......
I cried like a girl😂
54:40 The guy talking about "heroes" made a statement that I've always thought and always told my own kids when war is discussed. I say to them, when you think about a real war, remember that many will survive but your best and bravest will die. Thats what it takes to win a war. Really is the same with any best laid plans. In my (non-mil) experience, leadership's plans always fall apart and the only way things ever succeed is when someone steps up and sacrifices themself to overcome the unexpected catastrophe or the poor planning. Grandpa was a Seabee making runways for these guys in the Pacific islands and I love a good Navy story!
I loved the style of this doc.
1/3 contemporary footage of a current event.
2/3 historical doc footage. With excellent writing and an amazing narrator.
Absolutely perfect documentary.
They just dont write em like that anymore! Absolute legends. Everyone involved, every plane involved, every sacrifice made.
I've lived in Michigan most my life, I'm 69 and never knew anything about this. It is a very good video and well worth watching especially if you live in Michigan.
Same... I'm 55, from Wisconsin, was a machinist mate on CV-62 and just hearing about this. I miss the days when History channel would show stuff like this. Might be time to take a trip down to Navy Pier :)
Bill Kurtis's voice is unmistakable.
The One and Only
many believe the US government covered it up, I'm Bill Kurtis
He's still alive and 83 years old.
Wait ! Wait ! Don't Tell Me !
For sure I nearly said the same thing he was the best
Documentary’s like this really makes me feel for the people who died and their families. They sacrificed everything for their country and way of life they were trying to protect. No matter what side they were on.
yes and no, if you were living under a dictatorship, you didn't have as much choice as to whether you fought or not
My Uncle went through Machinist Mate training at the Navy Pier in 1941, because the Air Corps had it's quota at the time, and served on PT boats, was at the Battle of Leyte Gulf. He, greatfully, survived the war and was one of my best friends for life!!
My dad was a marine tailgunner flying the SBD. The greatest photo of all time, was a picture of my dad with my son, who was training to be an NFO, with the recovered aircraft in this movie at the Pensacola flight museum. My heartfelt thanks to those who recovered this aircraft.
My father was a Coast Guardsman during WWII. He was aboard one of the "picket boats" assigned to rescue duty. For some reason, their craft proved too slow to keep up with the carriers. The only time I ever saw him choke up about his service was when he told me they could not get to a downed pilot in time to save him.
After proving too slow for rescue services, his craft was transferred to the East Coast, where it was used on the Atlantic, fitted with depth charges, and sent on uboat patrols.
It leaked so much gasoline that the fuel lines had to be shut off every time it was in port, to forestall an explosion when it was next started. Despite promises at every inspection, it was never repaired as long as he was aboard!
one of the best YT videos i ahve watched in a long time..the filming was special to see..so many folks past and present who have worked to restore our naval history..that was the greatest generation..and now they are few in number, but not forgotten..
Oh, my god,
once upon a time, Lake Michigan was the center of training the air pilots,15000 and not a few airplanes had been sunken into the bottom of the lake.
Aviation crwe,signal crwe,fire crwe,of course, mecanical crwe had cooperated together for the project
I have recognized that why Japanese naval sqad had been defeated by American navy at the battle of Midway.
Thanks of this precious film.
Great documentary showcasing these remarkable Navy pilots’ training on aircraft carriers, on Lake Michigan. Most poignant moment was when Navy pilot Grant Young speaks of the Yamato’s destruction from his launched torpedo that killed almost 5000 lives.
My father was a pilot in the Air Force in WW II that would ferry some of these planes to the airfields where carriers were dockside. He did visit some of the carriers. 👍
My brother and I reported for duty together at NAS Glenview in December of 1969 as avionics technicians, fresh out of training at NATTC Memphis. He was assigned to the shop, I was assigned to the flight line. I often stood watch duty at night in Hangar 1 and walking thru the pilot locker room, could only imagine the many heroes who donned their flight gear there. I later flew aircrew on the P2 Neptune and was an A4L Skyhawk plane captain on the Air Barons flight demonstration team. Now it is a shopping center. I told a local historian/realtor that 275 medevac flights unloaded their wounded from Vietnam in front of the control tower, into buses bound for surgery at Great Lakes Naval Hospital. Some were in iron lungs, many still in their bloody fatigues. She told me that she would never look at that piece of real estate again in the same way. I didn't tell her about the protesters outside the main gate, spitting on cars and holding signs calling us baby killers. We were also told not to wear our uniform off the base for our own safety....
Would you rather live in Russia without freedom of press or freedom to protest? Would you rather not know about atrocities committed by US soldiers? Especially when you consider your role in the world to be protector of freedom and everything good.
For every us service member killed in Vietnam 388 civilians were killed by the USA.
You guys were baby killers, so
The "free'' press only covered the protestors, not the wives and families of those waiting at home.
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Atrocities are committed in or by most every country in the world. I don't see how that is the responsibility of 18 year old American males to solve, by giving up their own lives. If you don't feel our patriotism. why don't you go back to Iceland?
Ups to y'all ! Those who served and those who helped rescue the past, which is worth remembering.
So many heroes in this show.
Amazing Thank you to all who served and trained.
Truly the greatest generation
I was born in the right country just the wrong decade. Not saying I'm great just would have loved to have been part of this.
Retired U.S. Navy Cold War Aviation Sailor. That was an awesome documentary! I presently am an Aircraft Avionics Technician on business class jets. Thank you very much to all the men and women that rescue and restore these beautiful old aircraft to their former glory! You all have my respect for keeping the history alive!
A big plus for Lake Michigan was the the nearby presence of Naval Station Great Lakes.
It's still there... but a shadow of It's former self.
My Dad talked about being stationed at Great Lakes. Landed on the Wolverine
they did mention that around the 24 minute mark
Archival footage and the personal stories is a nice touch! Thanks timeline! Always professional!
You can see and hear the sadness in hat aviators voice when he says only 40 or 50 made it out of the Yamato, when there were close to 5000.
If you accept the official numbers, there were 277 survivors from the Yamato. Three thousand and fifty-five out of a total crew of 3.332 were lost with the ship. When you add in the casualties from the escort ships that were sunk along with her, somewhere between 3,700 and 4,250 men were killed in action. Such was the price paid by the Japanese Imperial Navy for Operation Ten-Go.
Terrible loss of lives 😢
Boo hoo hoo,they killed my uncle.
@@boataxe4605 eyeroll
On December 7, 1941, the U.S. naval base on the island of Oahu, Hawaii, was subject to an attack that was one of the greatest military surprises in the history of warfare. In less than 2 hours, the U.S. Pacific Fleet was devastated, and more than 3,500 Americans were killed or wounded
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Without Prejudice
A Day of infamy On December 7, 1941, the U.S. naval base on the island of Oahu, Hawaii, was subject to an attack that was one of the greatest military surprises in the history of warfare. In less than 2 hours, the U.S. Pacific Fleet was devastated, and more than 3,500 Americans were killed or wounded.
The Flight Officer fought as An Officer + As A Human Being in Order to Safe Guard The Free World from the "Then" Dictatorship which Worked Prisoner's Of War to Death, Starved Prisoner's, Or, Summarily Executed Prisoner's Of War , Military And Civilian Prisoner's Of War.
The Flight Officer fought for His Nation + For Freedom Of Humanity !
If, the "Then" Japanese had Overcome The Free World , Our World Today would be a much more brutal place to exist.
As A Neutral UNbiased International PEACE BROKER , i know the Human Feeling , which this Flight Officer suffered + I know it Goes Deep to Humanity !
However , The Flight Officer was Defending His Nation from A Dictatorship Attack on The Free World.
In more recent Years A Terrorist Organization had attempted to Attack ALL Free Nation's On Earth , who were Defeated by Equally Brave Men Who have Suffered The Affects Of Deep Human Emotion's from Protecting The Free Nation's Of EARTH from Terrorism and the Mindless Terror which Those Terrorist Entities intended to impose on The FREE WORLD where People Of Humanity Live in PEACE
Accordingly, As A Neutral UNbiased International PEACE BROKER I Respect Those who fought to Protect Freedom+PEACE.
In writing this Comment I send a message of Peace to The Flight Officer...Along with The same Message Of PEACE to ALL Those who have Served to Protect Freedom , Restore Freedom , And , Those Who Ensure WORLD PEACE.
Around Our Shared World There are Several Conflict's ALL Of Which could, and, can be Resolved PEACEFULLY If ALL Involved would Engage with PEACEFUL SETTLEMENT Of Their Respective conflicts.
Humanity *Must Learn PEACEFUL RESOLUTION OF CONFLICT IS BEST!
Man this quite possibly the best documentary I've ever watched. So well done! Grant Young story and the directing with that. The praying girl's emotion! Wow nice capture
Excellent documentary. Thank you.🏴🇬🇧
Looking at my dads flight log entry for May 5th, 1944. It shows a 1.9 hour flight. Below tht entry is are the rubber stamped words:
5 MAY 1944
Qualified this date in carrier
landings aboard the USS SABLE
in ........... airplane.
Approved
Lieut. USNR
Flight Officer
Along the dotted line is penned...
SBD. Below the word Approved is the signature HC Kohe Jr. Als noted is 8cl, cl meaning carrier landings. Previous to this entry there are many entries noted as fclp meaning field carrier landing practice. He went on to dive bomb in the SB2C Helldiver aboard USS Wasp cv 18.
As a kid growing up in Tucson, Arizona, during the mid-1950's to 1969 and beyond, we were often given the priviledge of exploring all of the old decommissioned aircraft at Davis-Monthan AFB. To say we were all thrilled beyond belief would be an understatement!
This documentary is almost as thrilling! Thanks to all involved in the rescue and restoration of these rare old war-birds! Not to mention, thanks, to the Greatest Generation!👍🇺🇲‼️
What a fantastic documentary! It pays tribute to those wonderful brave men who kept my parents' and grandparents' generations safe and gave all of us the freedom to live the lives we now have and too often take for granted.
Yeah.. I knew I wanted to be a pilot when I was in 2nd grade.. So when I was 19, I graduated from Army flight school as a helicopter pilot.. It was a good life.. Pleased to have served.
Very great video, im very happy to see these precious aircraft being saved.
My uncle served as a submariner in the great lakes during ww2. He was a merchant marine. Howard Eltzholtz, RIP.
this brought tears....well done....
Love what you've done You are hero's of history keeping the memory of hero's alive
What a Great video! Back in the 80's I used to fly a Navajo into Meigs Field located on the Navy Pier. Many memories while watching. Thank You so much.
This documentary rates an 11 on a 10 scale.
Amazing documentary! Storytelling at its best.
I love these documentaries.
I've watched numerous vids about these two-side paddle wheeled carriers. I live in Michigan and have seen firsthand P39 parts that were recovered. Here on the east coast many planes were built. and when completed they went for ops check flight. So, there's planes here around the southern part of Lake Huron recovered when they failed the ops check, ended up on the bottom. Very good vid!! Lotta extra info .
I have 4.5hrs w/ aerobatic instruction in the T-6Texan. I couldn’t imagine a carrier landing.. What a beast of a maschine!!!
Truly, the greatest generation. God bless them all. Bill Kurtis is amazing, I hear his voice, I stop and listen.
I happen to live near NAS Pensacola where the Naval Museum is located and been going there ever since we moved to area back in 1970.
I happen to know the gentleman that is in charge of the Restoration Shop for the Museum and recently myself and members of our local IPMS Club went to his shop to see the Birdcage F4U-1 Corsair and it is coming along very Nicely.
He showed some of the other items that they are working on as well.
The Museum is well worth coming to visit but make sure have at least a minimum of 3 or more days to see everything.
And when you are done, stay a while and you see the Blue Angels doing practice Air Show behind the Museum.
We also have the BEST Beaches that are White as Sugar and you can even hear your footprints in the Sand as you walk on it.
There is a LOT to see and do in the area as well as around, so come down and enjoy yourself.
"Welcome, to the many Villages of the White Sands that I call HOME"...😊❤
May be the best flight museum on the planet! My dad was a marine tailgunner and my son was training to be an NFO when I visited. The pictures are my greatest memories.
I'm not even an airplane guy but these war planes are something special.. i think they all should be recovered...
What a waste of money
My father was one of those 15,000 Navy pilots learning to land on a carrier on Lake Michigan. He never hit the water. Said the painted carrier outline at Glenview NAS was more challenging because it lacked the contrast afforded by the water. Great video largely ignored.
I knew about Wolverine and Sable I didn’t know they helped train British pilots on board as well!
Really good video.
I have seen two of the restorations and they are `sweet`.
Sad that those shellfish muscles are destroying all the Great Lakes. And the remaining aircraft and ships that are down there.
Great video!
Massive pride in our lake and our area. Heroes one and ALL.
Had no idea of pilot training on Lake Michigan before this excellent documentary. Side paddle is like a ginormous canoe !. The rescuing people love their work. America came to Britains aid in WW11. I salute your brave people !!. Thanks/regards. Dave
Great video! I knew very little about the aircraft in Lake Michigan. Thank you.
What a spectacular documentary!
This is wonderful!
My Delightful Neighbor in Chicago, Walter Wieneki (RIP)was a pilot training newbies how to take off, fly and Land on Aircraft Carriers on lake Michigan during WW2.
HE had a photo of his escape from death when he crashed on the carrier with the front of his plane gone and him exposed!! I screamed, Wally that was you on film crash landing!!
My dad earned his carrier rating 6/4/1942. He was on the way to join the USS Hornet when it was sunk. He then was sent back to train in the F6F.
Never call them pilots! They're Naval Avatars!
That is truly fascinating...I never would have guessed that happened...
This is a great documentary! Learned some things and that is always a plus!
People don't understand. The handbook of carrier operations is written in the blood of young men. People don't understand this.
We say that about FAA regulations as well as annoying as they are - written in blood.
Best documentary I have ever seen! Excellent.
One of the great strengths of the US military in WW2 was its attention to the non-combat aspects of war: training, transport, infrastructure etc.
Bill Curtis was one of,if not the best, narrators of documentaries in recent history.
One of those sunken airplanes is now hanging at O’hare airport fully restored.
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😂www this was
The Dauntless that was pulled up back in '84, not one invasive Zebra Mussel on it. I miss those days. Our Great Lakes are dying.
They have spread to inland lakes throughout the US, including here in Colorado. I am born and bred Michigander, remember when those critters first became a problem
Would of been easy to stop if just had foreign ships take on saltwater as ballast before entering American fresh water systems
They still don't require it because they say it's too much trouble.
The invasive Zebra and Quagga mussels are almost everywhere now.
I was under the impression that a lot of the Great Lakes were so polluted that nothing could live in them. I've seen Lake Ontario up close and the water looked crystal clear because nothing could live in it.
On one trip to Canada I went on the boat that goes into the spray from the Niagra Falls and the plastic coat I wore I took back to the UK and I found that it started to stink.
I know the river in Cleveland Ohio caught fire at one point but I think that's happened to the Thames as well.
I never knew so much history occurred in Lake Michigan off the coast of Chicago.
Thank you, veterans, and all those who supported their efforts and heroism 🙏
Our pride and grateful hearts honor you all 🕊
My father whom was a US Navy Great Lakes Graduate of 1958 and was trained as a Carrier Deck signalman told me many Naval stories. One of the more interesting Factoid's he would convey was that where he trained on the Great Lakes just 12 years prior they had 2 Aircraft carriers with planes for training. He eventually served 4 years as a Flight recovery signalman on the CVC/CVS 33 Kearsarge primarily stationed in Okinawa.
I think I've felt every emotion possible during this excellent film. Thank you for so compellingly recording our past, our histories 🙏
That was beautiful!! I so love to see all of this, especially our brave vets who STOOD up to the challenge, they lied about their age to enlist, they loved America, and selflessly lined up to deliver payback, and ultimate victory!! Not many today are capable of that, they have allegiance to nothing but themselves and what they can get from America, they stand for NOTHING. If patriotism like this cannot be revived, we are all finished, and ALL who sacrificed so America could survive, and thrive, died in vain. Jesus lord help us, we are lost. America in the very near future, will be no more.
One would have thought the crashes were both anticipated and aircraft recovery planned ahead of time. But nice video.
I love the F4U corsair.
What a terrible pity Glenview has turned into a shopping mall. But great respect for all of those involved to get those aircraft from Lake Michigan. Our history & culture MUST NOT DIE.
Not a pity in that the land has found many more and various uses. Time stands still for no one.
Simple, they trained on carrier landings on barges. I met a ww2 vet who flew TBF Avengers and he said that was scarier than landings on the USS Wasp in the Pacific
It's fantastic that you preserve your flying history.i wish hear in the UK we valued historical aircraft as much🇺🇲🇬🇧
Great video, I just got back from Palm Springs. The aviation museum there has a B2 bomber that was in the Doolittle raid. AWOSME to see. Don't miss it if you are ever out there.
You mean a B-25
A Hellcat every 20 minutes! Amazing!
Great story, well told. So great to see these aircraft being preserved!
This is a real eye opener to watch on Memorial Day weekend 👀
Thanks for sharing this great documentary.
At the Norfolk Naval Air Station they just Painted the outline of a Carriers Deck on the Runway !
History needs to be saved for the rest of the young people who will only read about it.
I knew a little about this but nothing at this detail. Let’s get as many up as we can before it’s to late.
Thanks
May all our heroes Rest In Peace
56:08 Thank you for creating this video. I had no knowledge of what was required to ready a pilot for battle. Amazing to learn that 2 carriers operated on Lake Michigan training our men.
A most excellent documentary.
The restorations are truly amazing and all the more so once you see the condition of the planes when they were recovered.
Trust your vibes. Energy doesn't lie.
The days of the greatest America of all times. Every person a hero in her / his way.
Excellent Documentary, should never be lost
Wow. A story I've never heard. Thanks
Thanks to the people who designed all these wonderful aircraft, all those who built them, all who flew them and all involved in saving them now.
We all need to share this wonderful video as much as possible.
This video really hits home for those of us who grew up in the Chicago area. It is also very special that Bill Curtis did the narration.
They were all heroes, because they risked their lives to save ours. The greatest generation. RIP❤
Great to see David Hull and Greg Ward from the Kalamazoo Air Zoo!
Great documentary. A different angle on the worlds only 2 paddlewheel aircraft carriers.
emotional and well presented
Utterly brilliant!
Nothing short of an awesome documentary
Fabulous documentary. I'm sixty nine and have been interested in aviation for as long as I remember but had never heard about this remarkable endeavour.
A fantastic and fascinating video, kudos to all those who served and many who paid with the ultimate sacrifice! they were a generation apart.
Fascinating and brilliantly presented ! I'm so glad I came upon this by chance !
I went through boot camp at great lakes naval station in 1984 and knew about the air arm training station of WWII
This is one of the best documentaries ive seen so far
This was an amazing video. I really enjoyed watching and learning new facts!!