Not that it matters now, but there are two things wrong: 1) If you have an offering of any kind, another will *not* drop. The only way to get multiple offerings is to vault the one in your inventory and then retrieve it later once another drops, or transfer between characters. The lowest offering gets used first. 2) An easier way to get a fireteam of 6 into Archon's Forge is simply load into the Wrath raid with your friends/LFG and go into the patrol areas from Foundry 113 like the good old VoG days.
The fusion rifle is called Saladin's Vigil. I have it on my Titan in my opinion it's got a great charge rate and its accuracy is great also. I can get a screen grab if needed for people to check it out
I wish they would make an Archon's Forge playlist type of deal, where if you were looking to do it, you could do the playlist and have it do matchmaking so you wouldn't have to wait 4 hours for people to show up so you can actually complete it!!
Im a archons forge master and I would like to cover a few more things. You can only pick up 1 offering no matter what. and the battle axes dont spawn just from doing well. when your ghost says something like "The fallen are up to something" or "That alarm, Something is up" That means 1 ball door will open. Shoot the siva thingy and Iron lord battle axes will spawn.
Im pretty sure you can only have 1 Siva offering on you at a time, and only 1 in the vault. I had a blue and I found a green, it wouldn't let me pick up the green (yes I had inventory space). I put the blue into the vault and picked up the green. Found another green I couldnt pick up so I tried to put one in the vault with the blue, wouldn't work.
Actually... For the battle axes, you need to wait for your worth to be tested. Once this happens, destroy the SIVA pillar that comes from the left or right side. This will spawn the battle axes on the opposite side.
Ur not getting 3 battle axes all the time, it is based on how many players there are. And to get the percentage up you dont have to kill all adds, only the adds that match the boss will put it up. So if u r doing a fused vandals offering, only vandals will put the percentage up.
It's a good way to farm engrams. When I finished about 5-15 SIVA offerings and went back to the social area, the postmaster had at least 20 engrams for me.
I got lucky with getting the sniper. A couple other things: 1. It's easier to get matched if you walk into the area (not running or with a sparrow). I've gotten matched up this way a lot where when I ran into the area I saw no one. 2. To get the 'boon' (the axes) you need to destroy the Siva clusters that appear after the siren sounds. I'm surprised that wasn't addressed.
i was 340 with 1 other person, i had a perfectd siva offering and put it in. we made it through fairly enough, and im sure it was a perfected. didnt seem hard at all. didn't do much damage but didn't seem hard
I can confirm that you cannot hold more than one offering at once. you can get another to drop while still holding one but it won't let you pick it up. I got super lucky and had two drop right beside each other last night in the Archons Forge. One fused and one perfected.
@KackisHD Several corrections need to be made to this "complete" guide as well as a few clarifications/confirmations.1. SIVA Offerings drop from any enemy kill in the WotM raid as well as in the Plaguelands. Rate of drop is very high in the Archon's Forge.2. There are 5, not 4, types of SIVA Offerings: dregs, vandals, shanks, captains and servitors. I've listed these in order of least to greatest in the apparent difficulty. The servitor boss is harder to kill than the dreg boss.3. SIVA Keys drop from yellow bar enemies in the Plaguelands as well as in the WotM raid.4. You can only hold one SIVA Offering at a time, no matter whether it is Fused, Enhanced or Perfected. You'll quickly discover this in the Archon's Forge since you won't be able to pick one up off the ground if you already have one in your inventory.5. Getting the axe relics depends only on whether or not you've destroyed the SIVA node that appears under the opened sphere. If you destroy this node (the red SIVA bloom) you will get the axes, no matter how "well" you're killing enemies.6. Revive, revive, revive so that you don't have to waste your Splicer Keys from revives.7. If everyone dies, the event will fail.Lastly, thanks for making this video. Not many other TH-camrs/streamers have addressed the benefits of the Archon's Forge. I love that you mentioned inviting a blueberry to your party to enlarge your fireteam. I did this early on, got a group of 9 in the forge and we all quickly leveled up our characters!
I started one with no one around and it canceled immediately, don't do it alone, you'll just waste it. I went back out and drew in a few people to follow me.
If you get an offering put it in your vault and collect more. They only way to have more than one, but I think 3 is max. Maybe 4 if you have one on you.
Love your videos! Been subscribed for awhile now and I'm just soaking them up. I have a baby boy so I can't raid but I can run a few missions here and there. Props to Bungie for the timelines, making it possible for the working class to complete tasks and events!
The axes aren't based if you are doing well... you need to listen to your ghost when he speaks during your encounter. Example: there is a time when he will say oh that alarm. This is your queue, one of the domes at either end will open up.... it'll have a SIVA "spawn pod"(that's what I'm calling it) inside blow it up quickly... Your ghost will then say something randomly if you got the "pod" quickly, you will see a message pop up saying you are worthy... and then at the other end opposite to where the "pod" showed up will open the other dome with up to 3 axes..
you missed the criteria for the axes. destroy the clusters of siva on the map. of the 2 axe locations will open up a super cluster like the one spawned in the center. destroy that and the axes will spawn in the opposite location
3 whole times!!!! OMFG that´s like 8-9 minutes of game play, sound like utter crap, you should get at least get 2-3 exotics every time.. i swear you hunters... Anyway our non lazy group 6 guys plus 3 randoms, went from light 345 to 370+ in about 1.5h and they drop exotics.(tree of coins) so please do! "3. Leave and never go back."
no one is there and I had to use fucking lfg of all things and had to burn 2 hours looking for people to even play with....CoO was better in accessibility to public, damn it bungie
Thanks for the video. It answered a few questions my clan was having. We completed the Perfected last night, & it was tough. All of us was around 348-350 but we managed to kill the boss in the last 15secs. But most of us only got blue engrams & was very disappointed after all that hard work. 1 person got gloves that was the same light level as he had equipped. All 3 of the offerings don't seem to drop that often. Our fireteam of 3 took about 40mins to find just 1 & it was a green offering (& yes we was killing the named majors). Bungie needs to up the drop rate & the rewards or people will get bored of this activity in a few weeks.. Also one last question. What happens if you fail the challenge? Do you get the offering / key back or is it a 1 time thing?
That sounds simple!....If there were guardians willing to help :/ You probably have it easier since you are a big youtuber, but the rest of us have a hard time even getting a 3 people together.
After 45 minutes of trying to find people in archons forge, I found 5 people who were doing a perfected, we got the boss to about a quarter and I was given error code Baboon only to be placed into an empty archons forge when the black screen went away. So after 150 archons forge runs. Zero Salidans Vigils
It is NOT true that you can hold more than one siva offering. The only way to bypass this is to deposit the offering in your box at the tower or iron temple. I have attempted to pick up a green siva offering while holding a perfected and the game would not let me. I think bungie did it this way because you don't have an option as to what offering you want to present when you go into archon's forge to present the offering, and instead of dealing with that issue they only allow you to carry one at a time. Hope this helped.
No, it's simple. You just have to crouch walk through the corridor and up the steps to Archon's Forge and there will be people there. You have to give the game time to matchmake you with people, instead of blazing in there with your Gjallarwing blaring your horn. Perfected becomes too easy as I usually find 6 or more people in there using the crouch walking method.
Can't stack, can't transfer between characters with any item managers, so you can pretty much only have one now. Don't get your hopes up people, get there and get it done when you pick one up.
So what is the story on the red siva spires or pillars... Do they do anything? If you shoot them so they explode does that reduce the power of the enemies? I haven't been able to find out anything.
in case no one still knows how he got there just hop on your sparrow and head left and keep going until you reach archons keep it the first structure to the left
I got the fusion and it is a complete monster. I've been sniping people with it! But then again it has the normal fusion problem where some kills are miles away and sometimes you don't even hurt someone in your face. I don't get t.
You would think because Rise of Iron is brand new, there would be people there at the Archon's Forge, but in the past 3 days, I have not seen one single soul there. Its sad.........
Is the max light for armor and guns 385? I'm stuck at 385 for those but I have artifacts and ghost over 385... and Wat is the light cap for ghost and artifacts for this?
likely to get some after not too long?! I've patrolled the plaugelands for untold amounts of hours and I've never had 1 drop ever! and there is never no one doing archons forge whenever im patrolling. it makes completing my rise of iron book a ball ache
Damn kackis, slamming these videos out nonstop. Keep up the good work!
Not that it matters now, but there are two things wrong:
1) If you have an offering of any kind, another will *not* drop. The only way to get multiple offerings is to vault the one in your inventory and then retrieve it later once another drops, or transfer between characters. The lowest offering gets used first.
2) An easier way to get a fireteam of 6 into Archon's Forge is simply load into the Wrath raid with your friends/LFG and go into the patrol areas from Foundry 113 like the good old VoG days.
The fusion rifle is called Saladin's Vigil. I have it on my Titan in my opinion it's got a great charge rate and its accuracy is great also. I can get a screen grab if needed for people to check it out
Window Liquor the lower charge rate the better (has more impact)
When my team completed this my ghost said in a sarcastic voice they are dead you are not😂
same
lmao
Ghost trolling variks lol
VARIKS TROLLOLOLOL
YES
I wish they would make an Archon's Forge playlist type of deal, where if you were looking to do it, you could do the playlist and have it do matchmaking so you wouldn't have to wait 4 hours for people to show up so you can actually complete it!!
You don't have to wait 4 hours. Crouch walk into the area and there will be people there, nine times out of ten.
Im a archons forge master and I would like to cover a few more things. You can only pick up 1 offering no matter what. and the battle axes dont spawn just from doing well. when your ghost says something like "The fallen are up to something" or "That alarm, Something is up" That means 1 ball door will open. Shoot the siva thingy and Iron lord battle axes will spawn.
Thanks for making this I really needed it!!!
Hope it helps!
I needed this too!
FYI there is also a Vandal version, played it twice so far
You can't hold more than one offering in my experience, no matter the difficulty.
Im pretty sure you can only have 1 Siva offering on you at a time, and only 1 in the vault. I had a blue and I found a green, it wouldn't let me pick up the green (yes I had inventory space). I put the blue into the vault and picked up the green. Found another green I couldnt pick up so I tried to put one in the vault with the blue, wouldn't work.
Definitely needed this cause I have done a single one yet. My first offering was a perfected 360 one and it was gonna be really difficult.
You have been my guide since the very beginning. Thank you very much! I look forward to future videos.
I wondered down there once some people were doing it, I laid 1 shot on the boss and when they finished I got the fusion rifle
Actually... For the battle axes, you need to wait for your worth to be tested. Once this happens, destroy the SIVA pillar that comes from the left or right side. This will spawn the battle axes on the opposite side.
Thank you so much, I discarded a legendary offering and thought that's how it worked
The fusion rifle is called saladin's vigil I be gotten in twice its pretty good
Ur not getting 3 battle axes all the time, it is based on how many players there are. And to get the percentage up you dont have to kill all adds, only the adds that match the boss will put it up.
So if u r doing a fused vandals offering, only vandals will put the percentage up.
thanks for making the guide! you're my go-to for anything destiny
It's a good way to farm engrams.
When I finished about 5-15 SIVA offerings and went back to the social area, the postmaster had at least 20 engrams for me.
Thanks for the tips I just got back into destiny after a year break
Thank you so much!!! This was so useful, I stayed up very late doing this last night, the Perfected was insane, we failed :(
I got lucky with getting the sniper.
A couple other things:
1. It's easier to get matched if you walk into the area (not running or with a sparrow). I've gotten matched up this way a lot where when I ran into the area I saw no one.
2. To get the 'boon' (the axes) you need to destroy the Siva clusters that appear after the siren sounds. I'm surprised that wasn't addressed.
I honestly think the legendary bosses in forge have more health than any raid boss so far. No joke.
No, they get melted. Oryx and golgoroth have the most health in the game.
Yeah youre rights its rediculous. 3 axes stronger than heavy swords, consistent hitting, it still manages to take us a whole minute to take him down
we don't speak of golgoroth anymore...
JBlack Im late but. Golgoroth has 15mil HP+
so I'm at 345 light and I used a legendary Siva offering and I had 3 other people so I figured we had it in the bag. needless to say we got rekt
yeah there's one when you have to be at least 360
lol I knew 360 was recommended but I definitely underestimated. nothing is worse than fallen saber strike on heroic😧
i was 340 with 1 other person, i had a perfectd siva offering and put it in. we made it through fairly enough, and im sure it was a perfected. didnt seem hard at all. didn't do much damage but didn't seem hard
the servitors are what fucked me up. you could of gotten a different one like dreg or shank
yea, there weren't any servitors. BUT later on a 3rd person joined and put one in, and they came that time and i died when i went right in.
Just played my first runthrough today. A bit rough but this vid will help for future runs. thx alot:)
I can confirm that you cannot hold more than one offering at once. you can get another to drop while still holding one but it won't let you pick it up. I got super lucky and had two drop right beside each other last night in the Archons Forge. One fused and one perfected.
You explained this really well! Thanks heaps!
@KackisHD Several corrections need to be made to this "complete" guide as well as a few clarifications/confirmations.1. SIVA Offerings drop from any enemy kill in the WotM raid as well as in the Plaguelands. Rate of drop is very high in the Archon's Forge.2. There are 5, not 4, types of SIVA Offerings: dregs, vandals, shanks, captains and servitors. I've listed these in order of least to greatest in the apparent difficulty. The servitor boss is harder to kill than the dreg boss.3. SIVA Keys drop from yellow bar enemies in the Plaguelands as well as in the WotM raid.4. You can only hold one SIVA Offering at a time, no matter whether it is Fused, Enhanced or Perfected. You'll quickly discover this in the Archon's Forge since you won't be able to pick one up off the ground if you already have one in your inventory.5. Getting the axe relics depends only on whether or not you've destroyed the SIVA node that appears under the opened sphere. If you destroy this node (the red SIVA bloom) you will get the axes, no matter how "well" you're killing enemies.6. Revive, revive, revive so that you don't have to waste your Splicer Keys from revives.7. If everyone dies, the event will fail.Lastly, thanks for making this video. Not many other TH-camrs/streamers have addressed the benefits of the Archon's Forge. I love that you mentioned inviting a blueberry to your party to enlarge your fireteam. I did this early on, got a group of 9 in the forge and we all quickly leveled up our characters!
There isn't anyone there everytime i pass through the area in patrol, so I'm still sitting on all my offerings.
I started one with no one around and it canceled immediately, don't do it alone, you'll just waste it. I went back out and drew in a few people to follow me.
I can help if you're on ps4.
Use LFG
If you get an offering put it in your vault and collect more. They only way to have more than one, but I think 3 is max. Maybe 4 if you have one on you.
Love your videos! Been subscribed for awhile now and I'm just soaking them up. I have a baby boy so I can't raid but I can run a few missions here and there. Props to Bungie for the timelines, making it possible for the working class to complete tasks and events!
Splicer keys are really common. They drop every single time for anyone who helps kill a brood mother or brood knight in the plaguelands.
I can confirm that you can carry one of each type of siva offerings. I currently have one green and one blue.
bro omg you got mad loud when you were telling thw light😂 it made it so better
The axes aren't based if you are doing well... you need to listen to your ghost when he speaks during your encounter.
Example: there is a time when he will say oh that alarm. This is your queue, one of the domes at either end will open up.... it'll have a SIVA "spawn pod"(that's what I'm calling it) inside blow it up quickly... Your ghost will then say something randomly if you got the "pod" quickly, you will see a message pop up saying you are worthy... and then at the other end opposite to where the "pod" showed up will open the other dome with up to 3 axes..
Just had But Not Forgotten drop for me today :D.
But not forgotten is awesome!
"That alarm"
you missed the criteria for the axes.
destroy the clusters of siva on the map. of the 2 axe locations will open up a super cluster like the one spawned in the center. destroy that and the axes will spawn in the opposite location
You get the axes when it says your worth is being tested. When the red aids fountain spawns in one of the bubbles, shoot it, and you'll be worthy
I never find those offerings and when I do, I get absolutely nothing from them, and I even put them in...
Hey i know this is VERY late but try killing the SIVA tower thingies that spawn as you play. The more you destroy, the better loot you get.
real nice work bro, all your videos are super helpful. thumbs up from me
Here's my guie to the Archon's Forge.
1. Go to the Archon's Forge.
2. Complete it three times and get absolutely no loot.
3. Leave and never go back.
3 whole times!!!! OMFG that´s like 8-9 minutes of game play, sound like utter crap, you should get at least get 2-3 exotics every time.. i swear you hunters...
Anyway our non lazy group 6 guys plus 3 randoms, went from light 345 to 370+ in about 1.5h and they drop exotics.(tree of coins) so please do! "3. Leave and never go back."
You can also get legendary items from shiro-4's bounties. I got a 351 devil you know
good job rick
There's never anyone there :-(
Ikr
no one is there and I had to use fucking lfg of all things and had to burn 2 hours looking for people to even play with....CoO was better in accessibility to public, damn it bungie
this new comment stuff is confusing...so just walk to archons forge instead of running?
for me neither, sonetime I go with random people from patrol and when we go in they just dissapear
right???
you can also hold a offering in you vault.
Randomly got a perfected one, now I'm hesitant to start it
i got both the sniper and the fusion rifle :P
You can only hold one offering at a time, regardless of its rarity. You have to use it in order to get another one.
Destroy the Siva to make the battle axes to appear. Then climb the bubble the boss is in before he spawns and kill him with hard slams as it opens.
Thanks for the video. This game is always so fucking vague when it comes to missions, and where and how to do them.
Thanks for the video. It answered a few questions my clan was having. We completed the Perfected last night, & it was tough. All of us was around 348-350 but we managed to kill the boss in the last 15secs. But most of us only got blue engrams & was very disappointed after all that hard work. 1 person got gloves that was the same light level as he had equipped.
All 3 of the offerings don't seem to drop that often. Our fireteam of 3 took about 40mins to find just 1 & it was a green offering (& yes we was killing the named majors). Bungie needs to up the drop rate & the rewards or people will get bored of this activity in a few weeks..
Also one last question. What happens if you fail the challenge? Do you get the offering / key back or is it a 1 time thing?
really good video. great job
Good work, keep it up!!!!!!!
I would prefer Court of Oryx for the unique boss mechanics.
That sounds simple!....If there were guardians willing to help :/ You probably have it easier since you are a big youtuber, but the rest of us have a hard time even getting a 3 people together.
I was playing this last night with some friends and we played like at least 13 times
After 45 minutes of trying to find people in archons forge, I found 5 people who were doing a perfected, we got the boss to about a quarter and I was given error code Baboon only to be placed into an empty archons forge when the black screen went away. So after 150 archons forge runs. Zero Salidans Vigils
You can only hold one at a time
valuable piece of info: if you have say captains encounter, you only have to kill captains for the 100%,, other kills won't count!
It is NOT true that you can hold more than one siva offering. The only way to bypass this is to deposit the offering in your box at the tower or iron temple. I have attempted to pick up a green siva offering while holding a perfected and the game would not let me. I think bungie did it this way because you don't have an option as to what offering you want to present when you go into archon's forge to present the offering, and instead of dealing with that issue they only allow you to carry one at a time. Hope this helped.
You can only have one think about it. If you have 2, and go up to the console, how would it choose which one to start?
is archons forge a separate instance from archon's keep?
also way to go bungo for limiting our ability to play this
How r they limiting us
No, it's simple. You just have to crouch walk through the corridor and up the steps to Archon's Forge and there will be people there. You have to give the game time to matchmake you with people, instead of blazing in there with your Gjallarwing blaring your horn. Perfected becomes too easy as I usually find 6 or more people in there using the crouch walking method.
Way to go Bungie? Just buy the damn DLC, like what the hell did you think? That is was going to be in the normal area of the cosmodrome?
holy shit.. never thought about that. . ill try it
never had that problem. Sure sometimes it is empty but if you have a siva offering start the event alone and eventually people will come.
Thx Rick
I have both the sniper and the fusion rifles the first day I really got lucky.
if you have more than one type of offering how do you select which one is used
That's because you cant... Kackis said he heard you can... you cant
you can only hold one at a time.
u can hold one of each at a time
nice vid man
I got that sniper today by myself with a low tier offering
earned a sub
cool I can t wait to get it
i got the sniper and the fusion rifle on my 3rd try
gotta say its bs that they gave it to me at 3 light level lower
Same.
Just going to guess the people who just jump in the Archon's Forge event won't really get much reward or do they get around the same loot?
I got the fusion rifle from here today
Can't stack, can't transfer between characters with any item managers, so you can pretty much only have one now. Don't get your hopes up people, get there and get it done when you pick one up.
So what is the story on the red siva spires or pillars... Do they do anything? If you shoot them so they explode does that reduce the power of the enemies? I haven't been able to find out anything.
good vid, but you can only hold 1, i couldnt pickup my perfect one because i had a green one in my inventory
Lol just an improved Court Of Oryx
More like bummed down...
I have the fusion rifle it's really good
in case no one still knows how he got there just hop on your sparrow and head left and keep going until you reach archons keep it the first structure to the left
I got the fusion and it is a complete monster. I've been sniping people with it! But then again it has the normal fusion problem where some kills are miles away and sometimes you don't even hurt someone in your face. I don't get t.
Armor pieces can drop from blue offerings. I don´t know about green ones
You would think because Rise of Iron is brand new, there would be people there at the Archon's Forge, but in the past 3 days, I have not seen one single soul there. Its sad.........
I think there is a exotic one too because I was playing archons forge and some guys activated one and the enemies were 370 and 375
that´s the purple (360) the enemies are 350-370. it says recommended to be 360 but with 6-7 ppl you can easy do it at 340
You cannot get on of each SIVA offering at a time, you can only hold one offering
I can confirm you can hold one of each, but knowing how to use which one is unknown to me.
Is this better than doing prison of elders? in terms of loot?
Is the max light for armor and guns 385? I'm stuck at 385 for those but I have artifacts and ghost over 385... and Wat is the light cap for ghost and artifacts for this?
could u make a vid on how ti get a fireteam for it
What's the auto-rifle he's using at the end that seems to deal arc damage, and if you know do you know how to get it?
Nvm found out it's the Zhalo Supercell
it didn't let me hold two different offerings at a time. I found a blue offering and it would not let me pick it up cause I already had a green one
likely to get some after not too long?! I've patrolled the plaugelands for untold amounts of hours and I've never had 1 drop ever! and there is never no one doing archons forge whenever im patrolling. it makes completing my rise of iron book a ball ache
I have a fused and a perfected at once so yea 😋
does the full dream-eater armor for hunters drop from this?
yea I have the ship helmet And cloak so far
I have perfected Siva offering but haven't popped it yet. I need more people lol
I'm down lol
what if you have one each and you pick up the same tier? does it go to the postmaster?
my friend had 2 perfected siva offerings at the same time
If you present offering in AF you can't reviev yourself and back with the Splicer Key because event will be failed.
Are you playing solo?
Zock Animations No
you can only hold 1 at a time and 1 in storage but i use the app to withdraw it for some reason
Saladin's vigil is the fusion rifle
reinforced barrel , rangefinder and enhanced battery equals long distance fusion kills
I already got the but not forgotten but it was like on my third time or fourth
dope vid