This was the first time we actually see Wiz and Boomstick in person! For this, their 100th episode and every episode after this, they animated the duo in!
Right now we are trying to pair them with what we are watching on our other channel to have some kind of theme going for fight night Fridays. But we will be reacting to more than just death battle in fridays 😁
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 I love this episode but they downplay Sonic too bad, in games Sonic is universal and faster than light in base, and yes he have use chaos control in canon. They didn't count Sonic beaten beings that control time and space and threaten multiple universes
@@franciscoarzapalozapata4610 "Downplay" Heh, yeah right. Mario EARNED his victory. You guys constantly saying that Sonic was "downplayed" is why no one likes the Sonic Fandom.
@@franciscoarzapalozapata4610 I have to second the confusion at them saying Sonic never canonically used Chaos Control. Not only did he do so, he did it with a _fake emerald._ Sure, it was only once, but then again Mario only dropkicked a castle once also.
@@Piss_Off_Plz he really didn't tho, while Mario's analysis was for most part accurate, Sonic's wasn't, His speed was inaccurate and they got the info for Super Sonic off a Smash trophy, a game that's not even cannon
@@BCCSquidward I will agree with that. But still, Sonic was not "downplayed" at all. It's just the dumb Sonic fans saying he was "downplayed". The blue brat can't do many things without his super form and his annoying idiot friends.
yep they did ! this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
I feel they did Sonic dirty on this one.. Sonic's super form was used to early. He has enough power in his base form to get out of that cat gang attack. I don't know why they just had him stand there and get beat up.. very suspicious...O.o
They present their findings well and back up why they thought it should end this way. But at the end of the day, it’s just another opinion and still fun to theorize about 🥳😀
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 yeah, I been following their stuff for years now. I know they do their work. The video was overall good, just that small part that bugged me a bit. :)
Mario EARNED his victory. (Sonic fans are dumb as hell) Sonic can be broken under the right circumstances, but Mario is straight up busted 24/7. Keep in mind, Mario survived a damn SUPERNOVA in Mario Galaxy, and Outswam a black hole. To quote the Heavy from TF2: "KEEP CRYING, BABY"
this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
This was a good reaction and you should know they did a Death Battle with these two before back in the earlier days of death Battle were they included all their Media materials so you react to that one of you want or not.
The biggest problem I have in this episode is that Sonic a lot stronger and faster than they make appear. For example, he beat base-form Erazor Djinn who is immortal and wields the world of the Arabian Nights in his hand. As for speed, E-123 Omega analyzed Sonic's speed data, 130% faster than his previous entry, and they literally stated that light speed nothing compared to Sonic's true speed. And no one argues with Omega, who's AI was built by a man with an IQ of over 300.
They miss stuff usually but at least make an effort to justify their reasoning. At the end of the day even though they say “let’s settle this once and for all”, they aren’t the end all be all 😛😊
@@Piss_Off_Plz nope you obviously didnt research unlike me stop caping. this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 Too long. Didn't read. Also, stop the spam. Sonic never killed any gods. He either only weakened them or temporarily stopped them. (In all of these "feats" he was in his super form/had someone help him. Mario has actually destroyed gods before, all in his base form btw.)
I would love to see you two react to Dante vs Bayonetta and Wolverine vs Raiden, I'm sure you will love these deathbattles xD also greetings from Brazil! so... sorry for the bad english xD
They pointed out that sonic out ran a singularity (which is essentially a black hole) for 30sec but didn't mention how sonic survived being sucked into it while Mario's largest feat shown was that tennis explosion,and Bowser is inherently magic so his feats of surviving a black hole and anything else doesn't really count because magic breaks all laws of existence so that says nothing about his physical being,seeing as he falls into lava and become a firey skeleton instead of actually dying. The castle feats of Mario kicking and stomping them down are also relative due to it being spacial anomalies and perspective altering like that of a cartoon.if it was really that deep seeded rather than animated shenanigans they would've shown him doing it in the more physically accurate games.
This battle was disappointing for me. Not only is the research hot garbage for BOTH Mario and Sonic, but the animation feels uncomfortable and rushed. Felt like the entire animation was against Sonic.
In addition, most of the analysis weren't even canon, such as Mario tennis and 1995 Sonic OVA, and the list goes on. But the biggest disappointment was down-playing Sonic's speed.
@@silenttera666Mario has no stated canon, thus by his franchise’s unique continuity we kinda have to composite Mario to remotely make this fight fair. Since it would be an absolutely unfair stomp to just use Platformer Mario against Game Sonic. That’s also why Death Battle fused Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic together to make it balanced.
My bet were also on Mario, but i never understand how powerful he is.. gee.. it sounds strange, but Mario could definitely fights against Superman or Goku.. That Catsuit is from Super Mario 3D World for the WiiU and Switch. It is super fun in couch koop ^^
this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
!!! I know I'm way late to this, but since you guys mentioned it, I highly recommend playing Super Mario 3D World. You can be a cat and play 2 player coop. I know there's a decent number of people who would love to watch you two play.
Huh, so you ended up watching the Rematch before the First Match, oh well, this is the better and more accurate version of the two, so it’s all fine regardless.
To be fair in the first one I they were taking the comics into consideration. Which is just broken because sonuc could just wish Mario didn't exist and it would happen.
I dunno. In their newer episode, Shadow vs Ryuko, they said Sonic could survive the Death Egg exploding, which is a huge space station. Although, Mario has defeated Bowser multiple times, and Wario, who took a moon busting attack at point blank. I also don't like how they treated the star diver feat, like it was better than his lightning feat. Lightning moves at 220,000,000 mph. Just over Sonic's top speed. The star diver wasn't even half of that. Other than that, it's a pretty good episode.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 I'm just hoping that no Sonic fans start bashing my head in. Mario vs Sonic is the second most debated matchup under Goku vs Superman.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 oh it's not a problem but I was just telling you about the crazy one if y'all find a way to fit it in there. It's definitely worth it.
There's actually so much more Sonic is capable of, Secret Rings is technically canon and so they forgot to mention the Flame of Judgement which is really just a curse that drains his lifeforce overtime but slowly and all the skills, Aegis Slider for one does as said so he has far more durability from that.
On the other hand, same with Mario. Should Mario want, he can use infinite, Gold Flowers to turn him to coins, Time Stops to freeze time at will, Earlier Times to restart the battle from the start if ever needed, Pocket Chomps to summon infinite Chain Chomps, or just infinite Super Stars to turn him invincible, forever. Even if Sonic wins, Mario can have Retry Clocks that auto restart the battle for him upon defeat. It's literally, impossible to beat Mario without removing all of his items from the equation first
@@followeroftheprince this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 One thing to mention is we totally can't scale any of Sonic's feats to his Archie Comics variant. As Death Battle themselves say, his feats in the comics are way different and way, way more powerful than his feats he pulls off in game so we instead have to look to the games for what he can do. I mean, in game he can't even out run that purple energy in Sonic Colors. In the comics he was so fast he could move while time was stopped. He wasn't immune or resistant to time stop, he's just fast enough to move anyways, which should be impossible If you have anything to use as evidence to these speed and strength feats that isn't from Frontiers, since that game hadn't come out yet so there's no way they could "downplay" his feats from that game. Additionally, in all honesty we barely need to look at Super/Hyper Sonic feats since Mario can, well, turn invincible as well using a Power Star. And unlike Sonic who only has limited Super time (since he needs constant rings to keep it up) Mario has access to infinite stars and infinite invincibility due to his bottomless gloves So since Mario can stall out the super forms, we mostly just need to look at his base. And his base has no immunity to time stopping (Archie Sonic is immune because he's too fast, but game Sonic is not) so Mario can just stop time whenever and use something like the Gold Flower to turn him into coins, another thing he isn't immune to. Oh and just to toss out as a reason Sonic probably ain't FTL+ at base would be the Cyan Wisps. Claimed by Sonic himself to almost be as fast as him. Unless we're ranking Doctor Ivo Robotnik as FTL+ as well, well the fact that his forces can capture Cyan Wisps suggests the little blue guys are a bit slower than ftl. That and, well, Sonic seems to need special boots to do that "Light Speed Dash" trick which is dubious on how fast it really makes him go since in game it makes him fast, but visibly not that fast. Also only works on strings of rings and nowhere else. But if you have something that can prove that Sonic is in fact faster than Mario's reaction time I would appreciate seeing it. Which game shows him explicitly going that fast?
That’s why they didn’t include Archie Sonic, because they’re in two separate universes and treated as separate characters. Whereas Mario has always been the same person regardless of his appearance
I know it been a while since this video first came out and forgot to be bring it. But I like to say even as a fan of both characters I did not think Mario deserve or should have won. Since one none of the info or half of it, was correct. The TV show for both characters were not canon or connected to the game. Everyone agree that most of it was not canon or in anyway connected to the games. They say Sonic have dodge and was faster Lightning which is true. Lightning can go about 220,000,000 MPH but they then say Sonic can go about 200,000,000 only 20 millions off. But whatever it doesn't matter to me that much. At least the battle was fun watching.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 also tomorrow new one is gonna come out scarlet witch(marvel) vs zatanna(dc) is really good i watched it on the patreon kinda short tho
Idk its confusing because they had a way older death battle where Sonic won, i feel like sonic could beat mario depending on the version and vice versa idk Im a big sonic fan but i can say mario probably deserved this one (even if it is one of the newer death battles)
@@Piss_Off_Plz white tanooki is only galaxy level nothing multiversal neither complex multiversal super sonic on the other hand at strongest is multiversal+ and hyper sonic high complex multiversal nice try idiot
@@Piss_Off_Plz I'm not a sonic fan 🤣 Played one game 15 years ago, stopped after the third level or so. As I said before speedsters are OP. I didn't expect Mario to be able to keep up. (Also didn't expect him to be so durable)
@@Bleeperblopper497 Sonic is actually way more capable than they made him out to be, he has like a total of a hundred different skills and techniques, one of the moves from Sonic Battle is known as Sonic Heal and he doesnt need rings to do it, it is all natural.
this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
This was the first time we actually see Wiz and Boomstick in person! For this, their 100th episode and every episode after this, they animated the duo in!
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Yall should react to kirby vs majin buu
A mistake, in my opinion.
This is DEATH BATTLE’s 100th Episode.
I'd love to see you guys do a reaction to the Harley quinn vs Jinx Death battle.
Their latest one that we do need to check out 🙂
Death Battle has a lot of great episodes and I look forward to more reactions. Any specific fights that you have any interest seeing next?
Right now we are trying to pair them with what we are watching on our other channel to have some kind of theme going for fight night Fridays. But we will be reacting to more than just death battle in fridays 😁
James Bond vs John Wick
I totally forgot in favorite DB Mashups mentioned before to bring up DIO VS Alucard. Legendary.
We have that one in the request list for sure 🙂
Great video.
With that being said, I really think they were unfair to Sonic here. (Not you two, the original video, I mean)
They both were way more powerful than we realized 😯
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 and yet they left out a lot of Sonic upgrades, like the werehog, to name one.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 I love this episode but they downplay Sonic too bad, in games Sonic is universal and faster than light in base, and yes he have use chaos control in canon.
They didn't count Sonic beaten beings that control time and space and threaten multiple universes
@@franciscoarzapalozapata4610 "Downplay" Heh, yeah right. Mario EARNED his victory. You guys constantly saying that Sonic was "downplayed" is why no one likes the Sonic Fandom.
@@franciscoarzapalozapata4610
I have to second the confusion at them saying Sonic never canonically used Chaos Control. Not only did he do so, he did it with a _fake emerald._ Sure, it was only once, but then again Mario only dropkicked a castle once also.
While I like the animation in this episode I don't really agree with Mario winning I feel they downplayed sonic and his super forms
Others have said similar 🙂
"Downplay" my ass. Mario won fair and square. Don't like it? Too bad.
@@Piss_Off_Plz he really didn't tho, while Mario's analysis was for most part accurate, Sonic's wasn't, His speed was inaccurate and they got the info for Super Sonic off a Smash trophy, a game that's not even cannon
@@BCCSquidward I will agree with that. But still, Sonic was not "downplayed" at all. It's just the dumb Sonic fans saying he was "downplayed". The blue brat can't do many things without his super form and his annoying idiot friends.
yep they did ! this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
Childhood memories from this.
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animated wiz and boomstick finally appear
You guys should react to the first version of Mario vs Sonic death battle
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stay mad
@@extremeboi9207 Yup. The original video is heavily flawed and has been debunked.
@@Piss_Off_Plz this one too you can see several videos of it getting debunked even i debunk it
I feel they did Sonic dirty on this one.. Sonic's super form was used to early. He has enough power in his base form to get out of that cat gang attack. I don't know why they just had him stand there and get beat up.. very suspicious...O.o
Sorta agree, not the greatest but still entertaining.
They present their findings well and back up why they thought it should end this way. But at the end of the day, it’s just another opinion and still fun to theorize about 🥳😀
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 yeah, I been following their stuff for years now. I know they do their work. The video was overall good, just that small part that bugged me a bit. :)
Mario EARNED his victory. (Sonic fans are dumb as hell) Sonic can be broken under the right circumstances, but Mario is straight up busted 24/7. Keep in mind, Mario survived a damn SUPERNOVA in Mario Galaxy, and Outswam a black hole. To quote the Heavy from TF2: "KEEP CRYING, BABY"
this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
This is a rematch.
Last Death Battle between those two Sonic won.
This was a good reaction and you should know they did a Death Battle with these two before back in the earlier days of death Battle were they included all their Media materials so you react to that one of you want or not.
I recommend u watching the old death battles first like season 1 - 8 before moving on to watching new.
We’ve started pairing them with what we watch in our other channel to help decide where to go 🤗
You guys definitely need to react to the Spiderman 2099 vs Batman beyond death battle!
An updated one on the Spidey vs Batman one with a twist 😀
Great video i always enjoy yalls reactions and gameplays
Thanks so much! 😀🥳🤗
I recommend watching Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher next.
The newest one is "Harley Quinn vs. Jinx" (from Arcane) sounds really interesting, because both are messed up ^^
Indeed. I wonder if they are going to give Jinx the shimmer cuz not sure if she has that in the game lore 🤔
The biggest problem I have in this episode is that Sonic a lot stronger and faster than they make appear. For example, he beat base-form Erazor Djinn who is immortal and wields the world of the Arabian Nights in his hand. As for speed, E-123 Omega analyzed Sonic's speed data, 130% faster than his previous entry, and they literally stated that light speed nothing compared to Sonic's true speed. And no one argues with Omega, who's AI was built by a man with an IQ of over 300.
They miss stuff usually but at least make an effort to justify their reasoning. At the end of the day even though they say “let’s settle this once and for all”, they aren’t the end all be all 😛😊
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 Correct
Without his super forms, Sonic is useless. Speed is the only thing he has going for him.
@@Piss_Off_Plz nope you obviously didnt research unlike me stop caping. this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 Too long. Didn't read. Also, stop the spam.
Sonic never killed any gods. He either only weakened them or temporarily stopped them. (In all of these "feats" he was in his super form/had someone help him. Mario has actually destroyed gods before, all in his base form btw.)
I would love to see you two react to Dante vs Bayonetta and Wolverine vs Raiden, I'm sure you will love these deathbattles xD
also greetings from Brazil!
so... sorry for the bad english xD
Your English is good 🥳🥳 🇧🇷 🤗😇
You guys should definitely watch Vegeta vs shadow. It'll give you more context to dragon ball .
Looking forward to it 🙂
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 yayyy.
They pointed out that sonic out ran a singularity (which is essentially a black hole) for 30sec but didn't mention how sonic survived being sucked into it while Mario's largest feat shown was that tennis explosion,and Bowser is inherently magic so his feats of surviving a black hole and anything else doesn't really count because magic breaks all laws of existence so that says nothing about his physical being,seeing as he falls into lava and become a firey skeleton instead of actually dying. The castle feats of Mario kicking and stomping them down are also relative due to it being spacial anomalies and perspective altering like that of a cartoon.if it was really that deep seeded rather than animated shenanigans they would've shown him doing it in the more physically accurate games.
This battle was disappointing for me. Not only is the research hot garbage for BOTH Mario and Sonic, but the animation feels uncomfortable and rushed. Felt like the entire animation was against Sonic.
In addition, most of the analysis weren't even canon, such as Mario tennis and 1995 Sonic OVA, and the list goes on. But the biggest disappointment was down-playing Sonic's speed.
Ez win for mario
@@front2d168 Easy win for Sonic the first time.
@@silenttera666Mario has no stated canon, thus by his franchise’s unique continuity we kinda have to composite Mario to remotely make this fight fair. Since it would be an absolutely unfair stomp to just use Platformer Mario against Game Sonic. That’s also why Death Battle fused Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic together to make it balanced.
“They killed the moon.”…again.
My bet were also on Mario, but i never understand how powerful he is.. gee.. it sounds strange, but Mario could definitely fights against Superman or Goku..
That Catsuit is from Super Mario 3D World for the WiiU and Switch. It is super fun in couch koop ^^
That’s what we thought too! Mario is crazy powerful 🤯
this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
!!! I know I'm way late to this, but since you guys mentioned it, I highly recommend playing Super Mario 3D World. You can be a cat and play 2 player coop. I know there's a decent number of people who would love to watch you two play.
nah they shouldnt play that slow boring game where you rely on power ups
I recommend watching the Wiz and Boomstick Introduction Video at some point.
Didn’t realize they had an intro vid 😯
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 they made it when Episode 100 (as well as the first Episode showing them animated) was close on the horizon.
Huh, so you ended up watching the Rematch before the First Match, oh well, this is the better and more accurate version of the two, so it’s all fine regardless.
We imagined it would be if they were redoing it 🤔🤗
To be fair in the first one I they were taking the comics into consideration. Which is just broken because sonuc could just wish Mario didn't exist and it would happen.
I dunno. In their newer episode, Shadow vs Ryuko, they said Sonic could survive the Death Egg exploding, which is a huge space station. Although, Mario has defeated Bowser multiple times, and Wario, who took a moon busting attack at point blank. I also don't like how they treated the star diver feat, like it was better than his lightning feat. Lightning moves at 220,000,000 mph. Just over Sonic's top speed. The star diver wasn't even half of that.
Other than that, it's a pretty good episode.
Yeah they may not always be consistent but at least they make the battles and explanation entertaining 😊
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 I'm just hoping that no Sonic fans start bashing my head in. Mario vs Sonic is the second most debated matchup under Goku vs Superman.
@RooByrne Mario can react to Sonic's attacks. (Star Driver)
@@TheKaizoMario You know how Sonic fans are. They're little kids/spoiled brats in adult bodies.
@RooByrne Yes it does. You're just mad that Sonic lost and Mario won. I love the taste of a Sonic fan's salty tears.
You guys should watch Virgil vs Sephiroth death battle.
We are learning a bit more about DMC and don’t want anything spoiled yet for that series 😁
Since y'all are just watching whichever ones you want you need to react to Wally West flash versus Archie Sonic. It's ridiculous. 🤣
Haha, we are trying to pair these with what we also react to on the other channel. But yeah, it’s still pretty random 😛🥳
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 oh it's not a problem but I was just telling you about the crazy one if y'all find a way to fit it in there. It's definitely worth it.
There's actually so much more Sonic is capable of, Secret Rings is technically canon and so they forgot to mention the Flame of Judgement which is really just a curse that drains his lifeforce overtime but slowly and all the skills, Aegis Slider for one does as said so he has far more durability from that.
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On the other hand, same with Mario. Should Mario want, he can use infinite, Gold Flowers to turn him to coins, Time Stops to freeze time at will, Earlier Times to restart the battle from the start if ever needed, Pocket Chomps to summon infinite Chain Chomps, or just infinite Super Stars to turn him invincible, forever. Even if Sonic wins, Mario can have Retry Clocks that auto restart the battle for him upon defeat. It's literally, impossible to beat Mario without removing all of his items from the equation first
@@followeroftheprince sonic is massively FTL+ mario wont have time for that and super and hyper sonic have infinite speed.
@@followeroftheprince this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 One thing to mention is we totally can't scale any of Sonic's feats to his Archie Comics variant. As Death Battle themselves say, his feats in the comics are way different and way, way more powerful than his feats he pulls off in game so we instead have to look to the games for what he can do. I mean, in game he can't even out run that purple energy in Sonic Colors. In the comics he was so fast he could move while time was stopped. He wasn't immune or resistant to time stop, he's just fast enough to move anyways, which should be impossible
If you have anything to use as evidence to these speed and strength feats that isn't from Frontiers, since that game hadn't come out yet so there's no way they could "downplay" his feats from that game.
Additionally, in all honesty we barely need to look at Super/Hyper Sonic feats since Mario can, well, turn invincible as well using a Power Star. And unlike Sonic who only has limited Super time (since he needs constant rings to keep it up) Mario has access to infinite stars and infinite invincibility due to his bottomless gloves
So since Mario can stall out the super forms, we mostly just need to look at his base. And his base has no immunity to time stopping (Archie Sonic is immune because he's too fast, but game Sonic is not) so Mario can just stop time whenever and use something like the Gold Flower to turn him into coins, another thing he isn't immune to.
Oh and just to toss out as a reason Sonic probably ain't FTL+ at base would be the Cyan Wisps. Claimed by Sonic himself to almost be as fast as him. Unless we're ranking Doctor Ivo Robotnik as FTL+ as well, well the fact that his forces can capture Cyan Wisps suggests the little blue guys are a bit slower than ftl. That and, well, Sonic seems to need special boots to do that "Light Speed Dash" trick which is dubious on how fast it really makes him go since in game it makes him fast, but visibly not that fast. Also only works on strings of rings and nowhere else. But if you have something that can prove that Sonic is in fact faster than Mario's reaction time I would appreciate seeing it. Which game shows him explicitly going that fast?
Since you guys are currently into dmc, death battle has a dante vs deadpool video. and a vergil vs sephiroth one too.
We also heard Dante be Bayonetta is a great one too 😀
There is only one of dante lol bayo vs dante i think the deadpool one is vs pinkie pie
@@Yourboricuascorpio ohh you're right! I got them mixed up. The Dante vs Bayonetta one is also fun!
I recommend Balrog vs TJ Combo, one of my favorites.
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Mario may have beaten sonic here, but if it were Archie sonic, mario would have been annihilated in seconds lol
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That’s why they didn’t include Archie Sonic, because they’re in two separate universes and treated as separate characters. Whereas Mario has always been the same person regardless of his appearance
@@original__gmebvy im aware of that....thats why i said it...
and to be perfectly honest, Sonic shoulda won here, but i aint in control of that
@@myrkrormr Archie isn't canon. Also, Sonic's not special as Mario has also killed Gods and eldritch lifeforms before.
@@Piss_Off_Plz only in rpg games which arent canon
Atleast it blacked out before showing the fox eat the hedgehog
You guys should definitely react to the new Death Battle video! Harley Quinn vs Jinx
Two of our favorites ☺️
This is an ongoing debate even after this battle sometimes sonic wins other times Mario wins
This was actually the rematch, sonic won the first one (which yeah makes sense)
Do Thanos vs Darkseid next and Flash vs Archie Sonic.
Thanos vs Darkseid must be really good 🤩
Trust me there is SO MUCH CRAZY stuff that happens in it. I know you're going to like.
Haven’t you seen the first Mario vs. Sonic battle?
I know it been a while since this video first came out and forgot to be bring it. But I like to say even as a fan of both characters I did not think Mario deserve or should have won. Since one none of the info or half of it, was correct. The TV show for both characters were not canon or connected to the game. Everyone agree that most of it was not canon or in anyway connected to the games. They say Sonic have dodge and was faster Lightning which is true. Lightning can go about 220,000,000 MPH but they then say Sonic can go about 200,000,000 only 20 millions off. But whatever it doesn't matter to me that much. At least the battle was fun watching.
Yeah it’s mainly about the battle and getting some more info on characters even if it isn’t always 100% accurate 🤗🙂
Gotta watch and react to Harley Quinn(DC) vs Jinx (from League of Legends/Arcane)!!
Yup. Curious about that one for sure 🙂
You should react to the shazam vs captain marvel one next, I enjoyed that one
That would be an interesting one indeed 🤩
If you have not seen the solid snake v sam fisher death battle, I recommend it
Have not seen it yet 🙂
I am writing this to help out ken and Bethany and this video and this channel with the algorithm ✌️❤️😚☺️
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omg yes you should definitely react to peach vs Zelda or Bayonetta vs Dante or wonder woman vs Thor death battles are really good❤
Peach vs Zelda sounds like a fascinating one 🤩
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 also tomorrow new one is gonna come out scarlet witch(marvel) vs zatanna(dc) is really good i watched it on the patreon kinda short tho
You guys should watch the old battle that you real first battle.
They have a Zangief vs haggar death battle
Wonder woman vs Thor next 💙
Dark sonic woulda washed Mario
Cry more, Sonic fan. Your tears taste delicious.
So if sonic can go faster then 200,000,000 mph then why isn't he able to run across water???
Good point. He definitely can 🤔
I also don’t know why they said sonic wasn’t that strong he is so strong
You should react to Shadow Vs Vegeta
😎🤟😀 Can add it to our DB request list
Idk its confusing because they had a way older death battle where Sonic won, i feel like sonic could beat mario depending on the version and vice versa idk
Im a big sonic fan but i can say mario probably deserved this one (even if it is one of the newer death battles)
no mario didnt this death battle gets debunked always from me and others
I winder if you agree with the first one more then this one.
We’d have to watch it to see which one we agree with more 🤔
Sonic would’ve won if he had like 100 rings which is pretty easy to get
Game mechanic
White Tanooki Mario: Allow me to introduce myself.
White Raccoon Mario: Omae wa mou shindeiru...
Hyper Sonic: NANI?!
@@Piss_Off_Plz white tanooki is only galaxy level nothing multiversal neither complex multiversal super sonic on the other hand at strongest is multiversal+ and hyper sonic high complex multiversal nice try idiot
I think it's Sonic win easy. Speedsters are OP
Ohh damn
Mario is crazy strong 😯
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 Yeah imagine my shock 😆
@@BlackMoridin Average Sonic fan. Speed is the only thing Sonic has going for him. Without speed, Sonic is useless.
@@Piss_Off_Plz I'm not a sonic fan 🤣
Played one game 15 years ago, stopped after the third level or so.
As I said before speedsters are OP. I didn't expect Mario to be able to keep up. (Also didn't expect him to be so durable)
Jabberwocky!
This death Battles are horribly inaccurate
VS Debates are purely mostly tho
@@Bleeperblopper497 Sonic is actually way more capable than they made him out to be, he has like a total of a hundred different skills and techniques, one of the moves from Sonic Battle is known as Sonic Heal and he doesnt need rings to do it, it is all natural.
From your reactions, it seems like you guys never played a Sonic game. :(
Played the first Couple Sonic games but it has been awhile since we played one 🤗
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2: Oh, aww! :)
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 i highly recomment to play the whole franchise for you guys
Ain't no way bro Mario grab sonic throw into water then explode am I confused
in canon he cant do that but death battle as stupid as they are use non-canon stuff
When mario vs sonic 2011 fools
this death battle got debunked they used non-canon stuff altough they should only use canon stuff, they didnt even let sonic use super before going hyper, sonic is stronger then mario he can lift up to pre-stellar while mario only class P, sonic is faster obviously even with reaction time sonic is massively FTL+ while mario only Massively FTL but they still downplayed sonic's speed which is massively FTL+ and used excuses to downplay his speed its not like he cant proof it off screen, sonic is higher then mario when it comes to everything hes at strongest universal+ mario only galaxy sonic defeated erazor jinn in secret rings he absorbed 1001 universes which are the stories of arabian nights, now unto super sonic and hyper sonic they downplayed them both super sonic defeated solaris which is multiversal and at end of sonic frontiers used all its strenght to defeat the end bcs the end is multiversal+ so super sonic at strongest is multiversal+, hyper sonic only appeared in sonic 3 & knuckles sadly but we can still scale him using archie and game sonic as we know each of the super emeralds contain the power of 7 chaos emeralds which is 119 quadrillion strong so hyper gets super sonic 7 times 7 times 119 quadrillion since sonic transforms with 1 super emerald into its ultra form by collecting 100s of power rings hyper sonic is obviously more powerful then ultra sonic and ultra sonic is low complex multiversal so hyper sonic at strongest is high complex multiversal. death battle debunked
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É piada o Mario vencer o Sonic pqp 😂
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