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For the gal who diffuses essential oils for her cat allergies, we have to remember our pets are ALSO (far more so) sensitive to smells. For instance, peppermint and citrus can be in fact, toxic to kitties. Birds, also are extremely sensitive. Our pets of all kinds are really effected by all smells. Just a little reminder so we’re thinking of all of our critters at home along side us, and not intentionally doing harm to our favorite babies. :)
@@hummingbirdhobo You’re welcome. :) I’m sure many are. But just to name a few. I think we all often forget how scented Candles, etc effect our furry homies.
Yes! Thank you, immediately came here to say this as soon as it was said. Please don’t diffuse oils with pets in your home! You are hurting your fur babies. My Mom learned the hard way and almost killed her cats diffusing oils(non MLM luckily).
Story 1, the parentification jumped out at me. Crying to her daughter, making her keep secrets, etc. I also was a parent to my parent in a different situation growing up, so I totally get it, when your parent has no one to talk to and isn’t mentally healthy, it happens. It’s just really sad. 😭
I was coming to say! I’m sorry but the moms a loser, call it what it is, she was too lazy to get a real job and just wanted to scam her way to success. All that time and energy she would have made more at McDonald’s
THANK YOU. Despite the sympathetic light the daughter paints the mother in, I wanted to slap the stupid out of that pathetic disloyal woman for what she was doing to them, and the absolute NERVE she has to see herself as a victim instead of getting a damn job and trying to make up for what she did to them like an adult. I'm not sad, I'm angry. She's lucky she didn't get divorced and disowned, because that is what she deserved at the time. I was that for my mother as well, though at least in her case I was a too smart for my age kid who pried info out of her and was always trying to give advice, so it was hard for her not to especially with my dad being abusive, but it's still not right... And this woman... she sounds like she had everything and still infantilized herself, used her daughter and husband, and then played victim. The daughter clearly doesn't even realize just how bad her mother is, ether. I myself couldn't see the negative influence my mom had on me until I moved far away and didn't have my parents in my life much for years. Then I started to realize that while my dad was worse than my mom in a way due to unwarranted aggression and over reactions, she could be so emotionally manipulative, dishonest, and had a victim complex to where everything was always someone else's fault. Seeing my dad as the enemy and my mom as the ally led to me taking on a lot of those same attitudes and behaviors and I'm so lucky I escaped that. I love them both, but damn... parents mess us up in ways we aren't even aware of if we don't distance ourselves.
That hit me too, asking her daughter if she’s a bad mom because she’s not good at selling candles was like a punch in the gut. You should never put your kid in that position 🙁
THIS! It hurt listening to it because I grew up the same way. I think there's also some emotional incest in there--parents should NOT be seeking reassurance from their kids. If they wonder if they're a bad parent, they should talk to another adult--namely, their PARTNER. And "don't tell Dad" is SUCH a red flag for emotional incest, it creates a level of intimacy between parent and child that is not healthy 🚩🚩🚩
Story 1 broke my heart. That poor mom who, without realizing it, was letting those terrible MLM's impact her well being. I hope she's having a fully uplifted life these days alongside her daughter.
the worst part is mlms convince people to lie to their partners because "don't ask them they wont support you, so just do it and don't tell them until after you are making bank". the fact that she told her husband years later after her daughter explained why mlms are terrible, breaks me. Imagine how confused the husband was with all the money that seemingly vanished, their arguments about money, loosing two homes, her guilt, him not even realizing how she had been taken advantage of. It seems their marriage survived, but so many marriages, relationships and families are irreparably broken because of things like this.
Story 1 is why I watch anti-MLM. I am also a stay at home mum with a disability (with cognitive issues). I know I am a vulnerable target. I also have an Autistic child so that seems to add a layer of vulnerability. So, I try to stay informed on the companies and the tactics used by Huns to suck people in. I've started telling my partner about the new MLMs popping up so should I get sucked in while acutely unwell (e.g. manic and not able to make important decisions) he can step in.
I love the story when she made the comment to her mom about being more proud of her for helping with homework and going to bake sales. That makes me feel so good. I beat myself up about not being good to sell things or pretty enough to be a big seller. I will never be a major “boss babe” but I will always show up for my daughter and I pray that’s enough 🙏🏼 💕
My grandma has been using oils my whole life so that story didn’t sound that weird. I think some older people believe in oils as even her mom and sisters do it too. We always get told different oils to help with things (not all medical). Oils aren’t a new thing and have been around for at least 20 years as I’m almost 30 and like I said I’ve been around them or told about them my whole life. 🤷🏻♀️
Story 3 gives me an idea of how to break up your 900+ email stack! Maybe there needs to be another category of series to give ex-mlm reps a place to share how they were simultaneously victims and perpetrators. It could give some hope to those scared to leave that they have a "soft place to land" and some catharsis to those they have wronged.
everytime i find a new youtuber who has dozens of long videos for me to listen to while i draw and stuff its like, the best day ever. found you yesterday, may have watched you for 6 hours. 😅
Funny - non-MLM - story: I used to work in a small gas station and people would sometimes come in looking for cold medicine. We didn't sell cold medicine... So I would sell people jalapeno flavored Cheetos to clear their decongestion.
to the writer who called themselves the bad guy, i think you should give yourself some grace. what you were living sounds like a nightmare. i’m so sorry you were ever in that place and i’m SO happy you’re doing well now. also, as hannah said, your story needs to be heard because i’m sure there are others that have been in that situation.
10:23 I’m honestly a little choked up by this story, thinking of what could have been if that woman (a teenage girl at the time) hadn’t been so clever and resourceful. Knowing that her parents have financially recovered and are still together- “Monica” and LuLaRoe could have and would happily have destroyed all that just to make one more sale.
That first story was so sweet. The mother crying about being a bad mom broke my heart to see how OP went undercover to help her mom again and everything worked out and got better made my day. So if the writer of that story sees this (a year late) I am so glad you were there for your mom and clearly wasn't a bad one at all
You saying the more people in the younger generation who are educated reminded me of how my son told the daughter of a Herbalife shop owner at school that we don’t go to her mom’s shake shop because it is a pyramid scheme 😅 keep up the good work!
In story 2 the inhaling steam is actually a thing that helps with congestion and I it’s because menthol in the oils. Where I live doctors recommend to do this with vix vapour rub if you are extremely congested. This, in combination with some nose spray actually works really well
Agreed, it opens the airways. Mum used to do this to me growing up. Because it wasn't pleasant, as an adult I no longer do this -there's alternatives available nowadays
Story number 1 has me SOBBING! I got sucked into 2 mlms trying to be the boss babe mom. I have an actual w-2 providing work at home job. My whole house is happier.
Years ago I got involved with an mlm called "Brain Garden" through a lady at church. They pushed a product called Pulse and also essential oils. At a convention they held, one of the "participants" literally fell to the floor and "paramedics" arrived to rush him to the hospital, but the mlm leader rubbed frankinsence on him as they wheeled him away. An hour later he strolled back in saying how he'd had a heart attack, but the doctors said the frankincense saved him! This was in LA and right away I knew no one gets out of the ER that fast. I ran far away and never looked back.
I really liked all the stories but the honest girl who sold out to advocare was refreshing. You make an excellent point about how someone can be both a victim and a perpetrator.
Story 2: that’s called a steamie here, granted normally without the essential oils and only if you are congested with a cold. No idea if it actually helps or is just an old wives tale type thing, but it’s definitely a thing. It’s similar to going to a steam room, in how it feels. The added essential oils yes do make it feel worse.
without essential oils, I had bad allergies as a kid and would wake up coughing at night and not being able to breathe. My parents would have me breathe steam for a bit and I would be able to sleep, but with essential oils I'm pretty sure it would have made everything worse.
My mother was a horrible mother because she WAS successful in an MLM. She succeeded because she was intelligent yet also manipulative and lacked empathy with others. She had borderline personality disorder and had a unique skill at getting people to genuinely like and trust her, and then she'd gut them. Needless to say, she did the same behavior with her family, only not with Tupperware.
Oh man, "bad guy" woman's story spoke to me. I am an overweight short girl, and still a grown-ass teacher's pet because "they are the only people in this entire city that care about me". Frankly, I would probably commit crimes for someone who could make me start to feel comfortable with my body, even if they were actively harming me.
You can be proud of your self awareness. Let this part of you make the decisions. The part waiting for outside approval will get you bad things. Lean into being independent
Girl you’re beautiful I know it!! You don’t need validation from anyone to know you’re beautiful!! I know comments from others seem important but not everyone will like u
@@BoringTroublemaker Make an actual argument as to why my take is bad. If you are so dependent on validation from strangers you will never be at peace with yourself. Grow the hell up.
I have just found your content and I love it. At night after I put my little kids to bed I spend an hour with my 17 year old. I put your horror stories list on while I cross stitch and she knits. We love our hour or so of discussions about what is in the video. Hoping I protect my nearly new young adult daughter from the traps of mkms
For those who like essential oils to defuse because the smell good Revive is a good inexpensive NON MLM business you can order directly from.. Also if you have a Fred Meyers they have a pretty good selection of smell good stuff.
On another note- I'm a public health professional and have been a part of my county's response to COVID. My job is to critically research various public health topics and disseminate that info to others. Basically, I do a lot of public speaking. I really appreciate how level headed your content is. If you're ever interested in getting a public health perspective-particularly on the topic on COVID (hearing what oily huns have to say makes me SCREAM)-I would love to give you a public health opinion :)
I just graduated with my bachelors in public health and I’ve been trying to find a job. If you know anything that could really help me boost up my résumé that would be nice
Congratulations on your pregnancy! I also wanted to add in my two cents on the essential oil face steaming thing. Never been a part of an mlm and I don't consider myself a crunchy person. But growing up my mom used to do the bowl of steaming water (no essential oils) with towels thing when we were sick. It helped with congestion. As an adult I add the tiniest amount of like a peppermint oil to the water as it feels nice to breath in. I completely agree that the mlm woman should not be claiming it cures anything. I only do it in small amounts to feel nice when I feel super shitty while sick. Again I don't think it has any medicinal properties and it is just something that I find pleasant in small amounts. It definitely sounds like the mlm woman was telling her to add tons of oils in order to sell more and that was way too much for something like this.
The smallest of drops to "scent" the water Is probably harmless. However just make sure its a good quality oil and research to make sure the oil isn't labeled as an irritant. My grandmother used rose water for her congestion. But I can tell you from experience eucalyptus oil should NOT be inhaled
Agreed. And these kids might have had pneumonia based on how hard it was to breath, and this actually makes pneumonia worse because your enflamed and blocked up air sacks are already having a hard enough time absorbing oxygen without having water and oil droplets added to the mix. A low dose steroid and expectorant are what you need for that. People need to take their damn kids to doctors.
I got so psyched when you said you have 900+ horror stories in your inbox. They are my favorite videos and one of these days I will get around to sharing my own stories.
Hannah, you have quickly become my favourite anti mlm commentary channel. Congrats on baby but I am very proud to see you haven't turned into a family vlogger and exploit your pregnancy and unborn baby. I really hope you stay that way 🤞 smashing it
For the girl who breathed in the oils over boiling water, I used to have vocal nodules and the ORL doctor told me to breath in steam from water but without any essential oils since the oils can leave a residue on your vocal cords and then cause irritation!! Although I have done that in the past from hearing it would help I immediately stopped!
I had major surgery last year and I would occasionally post updates on my FB about my surgery and asking people to pray for me that my surgery would go well and I would recover quickly. I received a message almost immediately after one of my posts. She sold do terra essential oils and said that with the right essential oils I could heal and not need surgery. If I didn't have this surgery I would've died from the condition that was making me sick. If I was gullible and decided to use essential oils instead of proper medical care I would've died. These people have no clue how dangerous it is to claim that their oils or supplements or whatever bullshit they sell will heal medical conditions that need medical care from a doctor. I responded to this woman and told her the claims she was making was dangerous and that she could do severe damage to anyone that is suffering from medical conditions that need medical care from an actual doctor. She blocked me
Omigosh; I had a similar experience. I was going to have my first spinal surgery a couple years back. I was so relieved because my life had come to feel like a long dark tunnel with no light at the end. Now that I finally had answers, I was hoping to get some relief. Then a FB friend offered unsolicited advice, telling me that I should go with more natural options rather than my scheduled surgery. I explained that vitamins, oils, etc wouldn’t fix my C1-C2 instability, which was literally blocking blood flow to my brain when I turned my head. She kept pushing until I had to ask her to stop. She got offended and told me that I would regret it when my doctors made me sicker. Then, like in your experience, I was blocked and defriended. I don’t know if she and her nurse practitioner were selling anything, but she definitely overreacted to me making a decision for my health and telling her to stop pushing natural medicine on me. I’m sorry you’ve had the same experience. It was definitely a bit jarring to see a story so similar to mine… even up to blocking the surgical patient on FB. Anyway, I hope that you are doing well post-op bad that you realize that you deserve better that the that so-called friend
I'm a biologist and did a master's thesis work on how terpenes (essential oils are full of) inhibit fungal growth....While working with them I got a sore throat and read that they could cause allergic reactions, be carcinogenic, and cause respiratory problems. Information from the Thermofisher laboratory shown under shows what hazard to physiological system terpenes like limonene could cause: ---- Please do not "treat" unconsenting children with terpenes like this. Respiratory sensitization, category 1 Germ cell mutagenicity, categories 1A,1B,2 Carcinogenicity, categories 1A,1B,2 Reproductive toxicity, categories 1A,1B,2 Specific Target Organ Toxicity - Single exposure, categories 1,2 Specific Target Organ Toxicity - Repeated exposure, categories 1,2 Aspiration Hazard, category 1
We are so glad you’re back Hannah! My daughter who is 11 and I love your horror stories posts, and it is helping to ensure my daughter can pick a scam out of the crowd when she’s older. ❤
I really admire your sympathy and understanding. For me, I can't help but feel so angry and unsympathetic at parents who get involved in MLMs and have it negatively affect their children's lives.
Story 2 reminds me of how i got hooked on Herbalife! My neighbor who had just moved to Florida from Honduras was offering free Zumba classes 3 times a week. Then we would go to her apartment for $5 shakes and teas. She was using us to practice her zumba instructor skills before getting certified but was also trying to recruit us for her Herbalife team or sell us canisters!
This just unlocked how obsessed my grandma was with Shaklee when I was very young. The chewable vitamin c tablets. We could afford it masses but I know we had the chewable vitamin c. I never knew it was an mlm
Got my very first MLM product last week given to my by a friend. It is called "Stress away", from young living. I was THRILLED and immediatly thought of you, like I was finally invited to the game. Congrats on your pregnancy and take care of you, your channel seems to help so many people.
I remember so many woman on Facebook (most high school friends I had spoken to in literally years) messaging me about their 'business opportunities''. I had no idea what an MLM was at the time but I'm so glad I didn't get sucked into that void. I even had a friend in America tell me she wanted me to be her 'Australian branch'.
I used to sell Lula roe with my sister and it almost completely ruined our relationship. She didn’t talk to me for months when I decided to buy out. We were top sellers. Thank God she finally got out to. It took her over a year after I left, but she finally donated the rest of it. I forgot lip sense was even a thing. Oh my God I love watching these videos.
Since you have some many stories, it may be fun to do videos of stories from one company per video. I’d definitely watch a “Beachbody Horror Story,” or “Monat Horror Stories” video.
I am so glad that Story 1 had a happy ending! I had a co-dependent relationship with my mom growing up for different reasons, but I am glad that she was able to see what you needed and be there for you as a mom from that point on!
I’ve definitely done the steam under a towel thing to clear my sinuses when my dust allergies were really bad, but NEVER with anything other than water in a pot.
I used to work for a company that would act as a payment (almost like a bank) system for these MLMs and I can tell you almost no one is making money. There is even this company called Plexus that would charge their users monthly to hold an account with us, and it paid probably the worst out of most companies. If you didn’t have enough money to pay for the monthly fee, your account would go into the negatives so people were using their $2 monthly earnings to pay off the fee from the account. Basically, they ended up owing instead of earning.
I think Zeke thinks he’s “working” too. Just like his Mommy. It’s almost as though he comes in the room saying “I’m here!! Oh, you started without me?”
I have multiple friends selling monat. (I’ve had bad experiences with the company as a 1 time customer, and I have never been interested in supporting it again.) I’ve heard them say things about the products that have no real scientific grounding, and also attempt to explain away the horrible situations so many people have faced. I have ALSO had one of them explain how one of the company’s top sellers made it to the top…. And it was extremely illegal and unethical. I want to support my friends. I want them to be motivated and successful. These companies are NOT something I can support and it’s so upsetting to see them get sucked in
Wahoo! All three of my anti-MLM/Scam/Cult-alert warriors have posted today, and I love it! Thank you, Hannah, for your dedication to vigilance and education!💙
My mums friend is in a mlm and after seeing your videos im going to show her them, she needs to know that its not beneficial financially. She claims that she does social media full time but she only gets a few customers which is just my mum and her friends
So happy to see you in my notifications again! Hope you're feeling well today. Sending love to you and baby. 💕 Thank you for your hard work. I hope everyone's having a great day!! 🦊🌻🍂🍄
The first story is a clear example of parentification. The child felt responsible for her mother, and the mother depended on her child, a dynamic that is extremely toxic/abusive. It's really sad.
Story 2: I recently went to a Young Living class as a guest of a relative. The rep went as far as saying their oils can cure and prevent cancer. I was shocked at all of her outlandish claims! Many of the attendees were also reps and also making such claims. I’m 49, old enough and experienced enough with MLM’s to know better. It was crazy!
I'm so excited to listen to this later today. I've been re-organizing my art studio and listening to these horror story videos has made the task much less monotonous for my helpers and me.
Boiling water and putting in chamomile flowers or thyme is something we’ve always done to free our airways when we had colds and it really helped with a stuffy nose and dry throat. We’ve never used essential oils for inhalation though. Maybe the dose of essential oils was just too high.
I'm so happy you're feeling well enough to come back! I love your videos, particularly the horror stories. I've missed you and them. And congrats on your pregnancy! ❤️
As a disabled person this hurts my heart. When my parents pass they've told me they want me to consider being put under a finical conservator-ship so I can't be scammed like this.
It crushed my heart because I am also a motor disabled person and Jesus Christ...huns are predatory .😔 Hopefully we can learn a lot here...to prevent anyone joining any MLM's.💔💔💔 Hugs!!!!🥰
I’ve never understood why these companies can’t just sell their products in stores like every other company out there. But hearing you say that the main objective to MLMs is recruiting, then that makes sense as to why they are MLMs and not just in stores. Some companies do have good products, like Tupperware, it lasts forever, unlike all the store bought storage containers. And I like the two craft stamp companies I know about, and their products. One stamp MLMs just decided to close and now all of their people are devastated. Which is sad for them. But, as a customer, I’ve been frustrated at the push for new products every year, or every few months. One barely has time to make something out of their latest products, before new stuff comes out. It’s hard to keep up with. And other companies do it too, not just MLMs. One of my favorite companies is re-releasing older products, which is so refreshing! It means I’m not tempted to buy, if I have the items already, and that I have another chance to buy if I want an item that was discontinued before I knew about it. And this idea makes sense as there are so many more customers now then even 10 and more years ago. Just change up the pretty papers and create new ideas with the existing products. Thankfully I’ve gotten away from the constant buying. One just can’t keep up!
These videos are an amazing way to help spread awareness about MLMs. My favorite aunt is unfortunately involved in Doterra and my mom always buys the oils to “not be a bitch” but it’s like now that she’s bought probably at least a grand worth of oils from her in the last 8 years, I had seen her waste enough money. I made sure to keep telling her that she isn’t being rude by not buying them, just tell her you can’t afford to drop money on stuff that isn’t a necessity for you or our family. I wish I knew when I was younger what was going on because it was only in the last couple years that I was finally able to convince my mom not to buy any more as it’s a MLM. She has a hard time saying no so it makes her an easy target to sell the products to, but luckily now she knows that it isn’t a good business. I said, I mean if you want to get essential oils get a few on Etsy or something from a small business… not a “boss babe”.
@34:00 min ... I went to an It Works party for my friend's sister. She measured me before the wrap, and then after the wrap, and I had gained an inch! She said it was water weight. I don't know what it is, why we're drawn to these quick fix things!
You’re going to be the best mom. You’re so smart and calm and positive, and lemme tell ya it takes lots of calmness and positivity after your baby turns into a toddler. I have 2 toddlers right now, and it’s wild lol. But You’re gonna be so in your element as a mother. Congrats 🎈🧸
I remember taking Shaklee vitamins as a kid back in the early-to-mid 90’s. My mom bought them from a lady who went to our church. I took the children’s chewable lemon-flavored vitamins, and yes, they were disgusting. And they turned my toothbrush yellow. I’m guessing the adult vitamins were pretty gross as well, because my mom opened a bottle of one when she first got them and had me smell it, and it smelled so terrible that I pretended to pass out.
The Shaklee vitamins story reminds me as a kid a lady at church sold Shaklee, which were very expensive. And yes, they tasted awful. One day, my mom found out about Standard Process vitamins and supplements which were also more than the standard store vitamins, but way less than Shaklee. I’ve taken them over the years ensuing, glad to be away from the Shaklee scammers.
Omg that last story - I'm just like that person. Every time I'm looking for work, I try on all my dress pants, suit jackets, and nice blouses, and I go to the thrift store to buy new ones if anything doesn't fit. I show up to every interview with my hair styled in at least a sleek ponytail and a suit jacket and dress pants and nice blouse, along with a nice folder to carry my resume and a few spare copies lol. I showed up dressed like that for a part time job at Staples. No regrets. I will continue to do this lol.
When I was a teenager a couple at my church that my mom really admired were Shaklee reps, and fell for their pitch. This was in the 70's, so they didn't have the gummies the author of this letter described. There were certainly pills to swallow, however, and many cleaning products. Mom bought those, too. I am not sure how long this went on until she stopped. She never joined thankfully.
What you say about prepping teens not to join MLMs is great advice. I’m so glad my dad told me to throw away the Cutco letter when it came in the mail!
The person who sent in Story 3 must have done a lot of self-introspection & real personal development (not the kind that's just mlm self-help brainwashing) to be able to call herself the bad guy & admit she knowingly helped in a scam bc she was desperately lonely & vulnerable. Although it can't undo what's already been done, her story is still a great testimony of how fake these amazing 'before and after' results probably always are. Hopefully it helps more people stay skeptical and wary of all the miracle product bullsht these huns peddle.
Great to see you again!! Always look forward to a Hannah vid - hope you are continuing to feel better (and Hannah Nation will always support your need to take good care of yourself through your pregnancy journey!)
I'm glad that I hate having friends. My wife and I are both home- bodies and we don't really care if we do anything with anyone. It's nice not having to deal with people lol
I am so happy to have you back posting Hannah, your content is always of a really high quality. I'm glad you took the time you needed while you weren't feeling well in your first trimester, but I'm also excited to have your videos to listen to while I work again.
I literally just bought some makeup and wasnt sure if I got the right thing for my needs. The clerk literally told me to give it a shot and if it didnt work out, I could bring it back or exchange. Ive been binging your show, so Im not sure if this is directly related to the stories here but the lady being angry about someone not joining made me think of it haha.
So happy you are back! Congratulations on the news!!! Also, with so many stories in your inbox you could always start making these videos longer ;) I love listening to these during my workday!
48:15 I did the same thing!! I had a similarly bad experience, not once, not twice, but 3 times, (with non-MLMs may I add) and so my first time interviewing for a position after uni I wore basically a 3-piece woman's suit....to a research greenhouse. I'm not entirely sure why my brain didn't think this through. My interviewer asked me, at the end of the interview, if I was okay getting dirty and I was so confused by the question, until he said "well you dressed so nicely...." and I was super embarrassed. I got the job. We had a laugh about it later. He was probably the best boss I have ever had.
Story two is talking about steam therapy which can actually be very good if you have a cold and you’re really congested. Usually it’s done with just plain hot water or with Vicks vapor rub put in the water
Hi Hannah, your videos are amazing, very informative yet so light, and your empathy and your kindness truly make it worth watching your channel. I have educated so many people in my life by showing them your videos! So good to have you back, keep up the good work and congratulations on your pregnancy!
My mother use to use a lot of Scentsy products. (Not sure how to spell it). My sister got roped into it for a little bit and my mom liked the products so she bought a bit. She stopped when my sister stopped working their but would scavenge value village for donated diffusers and wax melts. I think she has forgotten about it for the most part luckily. She has minor hoarding tendencies so would buy anything she found from the company simply because they were expensive.
I would love to see a database of all these horror stories - that can be searchable by MLM. So many negative experiences, it’s hard to think of the scale but I think that would help!
I’m always so surprised Avon is an MLM, my aunts did it for years, they just put orders in for people, they never bought items to have in their homes. Did the set up change?
I was almost scammed by Vector!! When I received a scammy text and googled the building in the area that I used to live where they were “located” I went and did some research and learned real quickly that it was a scam and didn’t interview luckily.
The amount of times I had to (or at least try) yank friends and family out of these wretched businesses is insane. They are literally everywhere, affecting all sorts of people.
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Can I suggest a deep dive on a company most don't even know is a mlm? I would like to suggest a deep dive on Tupperware.
You talk about mlm's then promote this??
@@Ana-iy1ni ....it isn't an MLM so she can absolutely promote Babbel as her sponsor.
@@MaddyIntravia it's the almost the same thing. Making people waste their hard earned money on things that don't work.
For the gal who diffuses essential oils for her cat allergies, we have to remember our pets are ALSO (far more so) sensitive to smells. For instance, peppermint and citrus can be in fact, toxic to kitties. Birds, also are extremely sensitive. Our pets of all kinds are really effected by all smells. Just a little reminder so we’re thinking of all of our critters at home along side us, and not intentionally doing harm to our favorite babies. :)
Thank you! I had no idea about the danger both peppermint and citrus pose to our furry friends!💙
@@hummingbirdhobo You’re welcome. :) I’m sure many are. But just to name a few. I think we all often forget how scented Candles, etc effect our furry homies.
Hi! That was my story! I had no idea that they could effect my fur babies! Thank you so much for the insite! 💖💖💖
@@anuchiiarts happy to help, girl! ❤️
Yes! Thank you, immediately came here to say this as soon as it was said. Please don’t diffuse oils with pets in your home! You are hurting your fur babies. My Mom learned the hard way and almost killed her cats diffusing oils(non MLM luckily).
Story 1, the parentification jumped out at me. Crying to her daughter, making her keep secrets, etc. I also was a parent to my parent in a different situation growing up, so I totally get it, when your parent has no one to talk to and isn’t mentally healthy, it happens. It’s just really sad. 😭
SAME
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
I was coming to say! I’m sorry but the moms a loser, call it what it is, she was too lazy to get a real job and just wanted to scam her way to success. All that time and energy she would have made more at McDonald’s
THANK YOU. Despite the sympathetic light the daughter paints the mother in, I wanted to slap the stupid out of that pathetic disloyal woman for what she was doing to them, and the absolute NERVE she has to see herself as a victim instead of getting a damn job and trying to make up for what she did to them like an adult. I'm not sad, I'm angry. She's lucky she didn't get divorced and disowned, because that is what she deserved at the time.
I was that for my mother as well, though at least in her case I was a too smart for my age kid who pried info out of her and was always trying to give advice, so it was hard for her not to especially with my dad being abusive, but it's still not right... And this woman... she sounds like she had everything and still infantilized herself, used her daughter and husband, and then played victim. The daughter clearly doesn't even realize just how bad her mother is, ether. I myself couldn't see the negative influence my mom had on me until I moved far away and didn't have my parents in my life much for years. Then I started to realize that while my dad was worse than my mom in a way due to unwarranted aggression and over reactions, she could be so emotionally manipulative, dishonest, and had a victim complex to where everything was always someone else's fault. Seeing my dad as the enemy and my mom as the ally led to me taking on a lot of those same attitudes and behaviors and I'm so lucky I escaped that. I love them both, but damn... parents mess us up in ways we aren't even aware of if we don't distance ourselves.
That hit me too, asking her daughter if she’s a bad mom because she’s not good at selling candles was like a punch in the gut.
You should never put your kid in that position 🙁
THIS! It hurt listening to it because I grew up the same way. I think there's also some emotional incest in there--parents should NOT be seeking reassurance from their kids. If they wonder if they're a bad parent, they should talk to another adult--namely, their PARTNER. And "don't tell Dad" is SUCH a red flag for emotional incest, it creates a level of intimacy between parent and child that is not healthy 🚩🚩🚩
Zeke meowing as if he was commenting the horror stories is priceless.
Zeke: "Oh wow!"
Zeke is the best hype man
I think he's a smarty pants and was pleased to get a shout out in the email 😹
Zeke has a lot to say!
I thought it was my Griffin fussing to be let out, again... 😅
Story 1 broke my heart. That poor mom who, without realizing it, was letting those terrible MLM's impact her well being. I hope she's having a fully uplifted life these days alongside her daughter.
She’s ridiculously stupid. I can kind of see how she’d fall for it once but jeez
the worst part is mlms convince people to lie to their partners because "don't ask them they wont support you, so just do it and don't tell them until after you are making bank". the fact that she told her husband years later after her daughter explained why mlms are terrible, breaks me. Imagine how confused the husband was with all the money that seemingly vanished, their arguments about money, loosing two homes, her guilt, him not even realizing how she had been taken advantage of.
It seems their marriage survived, but so many marriages, relationships and families are irreparably broken because of things like this.
@@silvsevie that’s women for ya
@@silvsevie So much destruction and they have no problem with it. They have some mighty ugly hearts.
@@SamWilkinsonn fuck right off with your misogynistic bullshit.
Story 1 is why I watch anti-MLM. I am also a stay at home mum with a disability (with cognitive issues). I know I am a vulnerable target. I also have an Autistic child so that seems to add a layer of vulnerability. So, I try to stay informed on the companies and the tactics used by Huns to suck people in.
I've started telling my partner about the new MLMs popping up so should I get sucked in while acutely unwell (e.g. manic and not able to make important decisions) he can step in.
That's a great idea!
It makes me so happy to read that you are trying very hard to pretect yourself and in turn your child and husband. Please keep it up! :)
That’s such amazing responsibility! Everyone should be like you
Good for you!
The last part is kinda funny. Slap me if I start making questionable choices 🤣🤣🤣 a think i tell my sister often.
Anyone else listen to these as almost like a podcast in the background? Literally can’t stop watching these!
Same!
That's me! 😅
Yup. I’m addicted.
I love the story when she made the comment to her mom about being more proud of her for helping with homework and going to bake sales. That makes me feel so good. I beat myself up about not being good to sell things or pretty enough to be a big seller. I will never be a major “boss babe” but I will always show up for my daughter and I pray that’s enough 🙏🏼 💕
My grandma has been using oils my whole life so that story didn’t sound that weird. I think some older people believe in oils as even her mom and sisters do it too. We always get told different oils to help with things (not all medical). Oils aren’t a new thing and have been around for at least 20 years as I’m almost 30 and like I said I’ve been around them or told about them my whole life. 🤷🏻♀️
Story 3 gives me an idea of how to break up your 900+ email stack! Maybe there needs to be another category of series to give ex-mlm reps a place to share how they were simultaneously victims and perpetrators. It could give some hope to those scared to leave that they have a "soft place to land" and some catharsis to those they have wronged.
That’s a really good idea
Great idea I hope she sees this!
Yees!
everytime i find a new youtuber who has dozens of long videos for me to listen to while i draw and stuff its like, the best day ever. found you yesterday, may have watched you for 6 hours. 😅
Funny - non-MLM - story: I used to work in a small gas station and people would sometimes come in looking for cold medicine. We didn't sell cold medicine... So I would sell people jalapeno flavored Cheetos to clear their decongestion.
LMAO! That’s awesome 🤩
to the writer who called themselves the bad guy, i think you should give yourself some grace. what you were living sounds like a nightmare. i’m so sorry you were ever in that place and i’m SO happy you’re doing well now.
also, as hannah said, your story needs to be heard because i’m sure there are others that have been in that situation.
10:23 I’m honestly a little choked up by this story, thinking of what could have been if that woman (a teenage girl at the time) hadn’t been so clever and resourceful. Knowing that her parents have financially recovered and are still together- “Monica” and LuLaRoe could have and would happily have destroyed all that just to make one more sale.
That first story was so sweet. The mother crying about being a bad mom broke my heart to see how OP went undercover to help her mom again and everything worked out and got better made my day. So if the writer of that story sees this (a year late) I am so glad you were there for your mom and clearly wasn't a bad one at all
Love to see Zeke sharing his thoughts too. So cute!!
You saying the more people in the younger generation who are educated reminded me of how my son told the daughter of a Herbalife shop owner at school that we don’t go to her mom’s shake shop because it is a pyramid scheme 😅 keep up the good work!
In story 2 the inhaling steam is actually a thing that helps with congestion and I it’s because menthol in the oils. Where I live doctors recommend to do this with vix vapour rub if you are extremely congested. This, in combination with some nose spray actually works really well
Agreed, it opens the airways. Mum used to do this to me growing up. Because it wasn't pleasant, as an adult I no longer do this -there's alternatives available nowadays
Story number 1 has me SOBBING! I got sucked into 2 mlms trying to be the boss babe mom. I have an actual w-2 providing work at home job. My whole house is happier.
- love that Zeke has maintained his obvious passion for calling out scams & MLMs
Years ago I got involved with an mlm called "Brain Garden" through a lady at church. They pushed a product called Pulse and also essential oils. At a convention they held, one of the "participants" literally fell to the floor and "paramedics" arrived to rush him to the hospital, but the mlm leader rubbed frankinsence on him as they wheeled him away. An hour later he strolled back in saying how he'd had a heart attack, but the doctors said the frankincense saved him! This was in LA and right away I knew no one gets out of the ER that fast. I ran far away and never looked back.
that sounds like an episode of my little pony with the flimflam tonic 😂😂😭😭
What in the world...😂 Oh no, that also has the trappings of those that claim to heal by touching people 😅. Yeah, that's a scam all the way down.
Zeke is a perfect name because he’s always Zeke-ing your attention ❤
You should make a t-shirt with a picture of Zeke on it saying “Currently Zeke-ing your attention.”
🤣🤣🐱
I really liked all the stories but the honest girl who sold out to advocare was refreshing. You make an excellent point about how someone can be both a victim and a perpetrator.
Story 2: that’s called a steamie here, granted normally without the essential oils and only if you are congested with a cold. No idea if it actually helps or is just an old wives tale type thing, but it’s definitely a thing. It’s similar to going to a steam room, in how it feels. The added essential oils yes do make it feel worse.
I thought that is was a common thing, I’m surprised that people don’t seem to know 🤔
The idea is that it breaks up nasal congestion. Hot showers can also help, but require much more hot water.
I have done that with Vicks and that was bad enough! Just steam is fine.
without essential oils, I had bad allergies as a kid and would wake up coughing at night and not being able to breathe. My parents would have me breathe steam for a bit and I would be able to sleep, but with essential oils I'm pretty sure it would have made everything worse.
@@universal_stupidity yep my pediatrician recommended it to my parents! It does help, with just water
Here early ❤️💕 have a great day anyone who read this
Thanks! You as well, Nat :)
My mother was a horrible mother because she WAS successful in an MLM. She succeeded because she was intelligent yet also manipulative and lacked empathy with others. She had borderline personality disorder and had a unique skill at getting people to genuinely like and trust her, and then she'd gut them.
Needless to say, she did the same behavior with her family, only not with Tupperware.
YES!! Give us all the horror stories!!🎉🎉🎉❤ Glad you're back, Hannah! Congrats on your pregnancy!
Oh man, "bad guy" woman's story spoke to me. I am an overweight short girl, and still a grown-ass teacher's pet because "they are the only people in this entire city that care about me". Frankly, I would probably commit crimes for someone who could make me start to feel comfortable with my body, even if they were actively harming me.
You can be proud of your self awareness. Let this part of you make the decisions. The part waiting for outside approval will get you bad things. Lean into being independent
Girl you’re beautiful I know it!! You don’t need validation from anyone to know you’re beautiful!! I know comments from others seem important but not everyone will like u
Just work on self improvement and accept that you are flawed instead of wanting unearned validation from those around you.
@@ANPC-pi9vu that’s a sh*tty take. Stop talking.
@@BoringTroublemaker Make an actual argument as to why my take is bad. If you are so dependent on validation from strangers you will never be at peace with yourself. Grow the hell up.
I have just found your content and I love it. At night after I put my little kids to bed I spend an hour with my 17 year old. I put your horror stories list on while I cross stitch and she knits. We love our hour or so of discussions about what is in the video.
Hoping I protect my nearly new young adult daughter from the traps of mkms
That's a great idea!
For those who like essential oils to defuse because the smell good Revive is a good inexpensive NON MLM business you can order directly from.. Also if you have a Fred Meyers they have a pretty good selection of smell good stuff.
On another note- I'm a public health professional and have been a part of my county's response to COVID. My job is to critically research various public health topics and disseminate that info to others. Basically, I do a lot of public speaking. I really appreciate how level headed your content is. If you're ever interested in getting a public health perspective-particularly on the topic on COVID (hearing what oily huns have to say makes me SCREAM)-I would love to give you a public health opinion :)
I love that idea!
Looove this
Hannah interviewing people, I'm ready!
Dang, this is getting traction!
I just graduated with my bachelors in public health and I’ve been trying to find a job. If you know anything that could really help me boost up my résumé that would be nice
Congratulations on your pregnancy! I also wanted to add in my two cents on the essential oil face steaming thing. Never been a part of an mlm and I don't consider myself a crunchy person. But growing up my mom used to do the bowl of steaming water (no essential oils) with towels thing when we were sick. It helped with congestion. As an adult I add the tiniest amount of like a peppermint oil to the water as it feels nice to breath in. I completely agree that the mlm woman should not be claiming it cures anything. I only do it in small amounts to feel nice when I feel super shitty while sick. Again I don't think it has any medicinal properties and it is just something that I find pleasant in small amounts. It definitely sounds like the mlm woman was telling her to add tons of oils in order to sell more and that was way too much for something like this.
The smallest of drops to "scent" the water Is probably harmless. However just make sure its a good quality oil and research to make sure the oil isn't labeled as an irritant. My grandmother used rose water for her congestion. But I can tell you from experience eucalyptus oil should NOT be inhaled
Agreed. And these kids might have had pneumonia based on how hard it was to breath, and this actually makes pneumonia worse because your enflamed and blocked up air sacks are already having a hard enough time absorbing oxygen without having water and oil droplets added to the mix. A low dose steroid and expectorant are what you need for that. People need to take their damn kids to doctors.
I got so psyched when you said you have 900+ horror stories in your inbox. They are my favorite videos and one of these days I will get around to sharing my own stories.
Kudos to Zeke for raising awareness to other kitties! 😻
Hannah, you have quickly become my favourite anti mlm commentary channel. Congrats on baby but I am very proud to see you haven't turned into a family vlogger and exploit your pregnancy and unborn baby. I really hope you stay that way 🤞 smashing it
For the girl who breathed in the oils over boiling water, I used to have vocal nodules and the ORL doctor told me to breath in steam from water but without any essential oils since the oils can leave a residue on your vocal cords and then cause irritation!! Although I have done that in the past from hearing it would help I immediately stopped!
Wow! If it leaves residue on your vocals, imagine what it does to your delicate lung tissues! 😮
I had major surgery last year and I would occasionally post updates on my FB about my surgery and asking people to pray for me that my surgery would go well and I would recover quickly. I received a message almost immediately after one of my posts. She sold do terra essential oils and said that with the right essential oils I could heal and not need surgery. If I didn't have this surgery I would've died from the condition that was making me sick. If I was gullible and decided to use essential oils instead of proper medical care I would've died. These people have no clue how dangerous it is to claim that their oils or supplements or whatever bullshit they sell will heal medical conditions that need medical care from a doctor. I responded to this woman and told her the claims she was making was dangerous and that she could do severe damage to anyone that is suffering from medical conditions that need medical care from an actual doctor. She blocked me
Omigosh; I had a similar experience. I was going to have my first spinal surgery a couple years back. I was so relieved because my life had come to feel like a long dark tunnel with no light at the end. Now that I finally had answers, I was hoping to get some relief. Then a FB friend offered unsolicited advice, telling me that I should go with more natural options rather than my scheduled surgery. I explained that vitamins, oils, etc wouldn’t fix my C1-C2 instability, which was literally blocking blood flow to my brain when I turned my head. She kept pushing until I had to ask her to stop. She got offended and told me that I would regret it when my doctors made me sicker. Then, like in your experience, I was blocked and defriended.
I don’t know if she and her nurse practitioner were selling anything, but she definitely overreacted to me making a decision for my health and telling her to stop pushing natural medicine on me.
I’m sorry you’ve had the same experience. It was definitely a bit jarring to see a story so similar to mine… even up to blocking the surgical patient on FB.
Anyway, I hope that you are doing well post-op bad that you realize that you deserve better that the that so-called friend
@@tahlia__nerds_out thank you for sharing your experience and I'm sorry you had to go through that.
My husband keeps getting sucked into these awful scams. He tries to hide them from me. We have separate bank accounts now. He is from the Caribbean
I'm a biologist and did a master's thesis work on how terpenes (essential oils are full of) inhibit fungal growth....While working with them I got a sore throat and read that they could cause allergic reactions, be carcinogenic, and cause respiratory problems. Information from the Thermofisher laboratory shown under shows what hazard to physiological system terpenes like limonene could cause: ---- Please do not "treat" unconsenting children with terpenes like this.
Respiratory sensitization, category 1
Germ cell mutagenicity, categories 1A,1B,2
Carcinogenicity, categories 1A,1B,2
Reproductive toxicity, categories 1A,1B,2
Specific Target Organ Toxicity - Single exposure, categories 1,2
Specific Target Organ Toxicity - Repeated exposure, categories 1,2
Aspiration Hazard, category 1
We are so glad you’re back Hannah!
My daughter who is 11 and I love your horror stories posts, and it is helping to ensure my daughter can pick a scam out of the crowd when she’s older. ❤
That first story is heartbreaking but I'm glad it had a good ending. Also hi Zeke! Thanks for chiming in!
I really admire your sympathy and understanding. For me, I can't help but feel so angry and unsympathetic at parents who get involved in MLMs and have it negatively affect their children's lives.
Story 2 reminds me of how i got hooked on Herbalife! My neighbor who had just moved to Florida from Honduras was offering free Zumba classes 3 times a week. Then we would go to her apartment for $5 shakes and teas. She was using us to practice her zumba instructor skills before getting certified but was also trying to recruit us for her Herbalife team or sell us canisters!
This just unlocked how obsessed my grandma was with Shaklee when I was very young. The chewable vitamin c tablets. We could afford it masses but I know we had the chewable vitamin c. I never knew it was an mlm
Got my very first MLM product last week given to my by a friend. It is called "Stress away", from young living. I was THRILLED and immediatly thought of you, like I was finally invited to the game. Congrats on your pregnancy and take care of you, your channel seems to help so many people.
I remember so many woman on Facebook (most high school friends I had spoken to in literally years) messaging me about their 'business opportunities''. I had no idea what an MLM was at the time but I'm so glad I didn't get sucked into that void. I even had a friend in America tell me she wanted me to be her 'Australian branch'.
I used to sell Lula roe with my sister and it almost completely ruined our relationship. She didn’t talk to me for months when I decided to buy out. We were top sellers. Thank God she finally got out to. It took her over a year after I left, but she finally donated the rest of it. I forgot lip sense was even a thing. Oh my God I love watching these videos.
Since you have some many stories, it may be fun to do videos of stories from one company per video. I’d definitely watch a “Beachbody Horror Story,” or “Monat Horror Stories” video.
This is a great idea.
Would also be fantastic for search terms as well for people googling these companies for the first time
Great idea!
Zeke is such a mood in this video. I also go to my mom and make random noises so she notices me
I am so glad that Story 1 had a happy ending! I had a co-dependent relationship with my mom growing up for different reasons, but I am glad that she was able to see what you needed and be there for you as a mom from that point on!
THANK YOU for putting the adds between the different stories so they don’t interrupt. I really appreciate it ❤
I’ve definitely done the steam under a towel thing to clear my sinuses when my dust allergies were really bad, but NEVER with anything other than water in a pot.
My mom used to put a tablespoon of Vicks in the hot water. She rubbed it in my sister and my chest and neck too.
Mom guilt is probably the #1 MLM selling point.
I used to work for a company that would act as a payment (almost like a bank) system for these MLMs and I can tell you almost no one is making money. There is even this company called Plexus that would charge their users monthly to hold an account with us, and it paid probably the worst out of most companies. If you didn’t have enough money to pay for the monthly fee, your account would go into the negatives so people were using their $2 monthly earnings to pay off the fee from the account. Basically, they ended up owing instead of earning.
coming back strong 🤩🤩🤩🤩
its funny looking back on early horror story videos where hannah was pleasantly surprised by having like 40 emails 😂😂
The amount of parentification and enmeshment in the first story breaks my heart.
I think Zeke thinks he’s “working” too. Just like his Mommy. It’s almost as though he comes in the room saying “I’m here!! Oh, you started without me?”
I have multiple friends selling monat. (I’ve had bad experiences with the company as a 1 time customer, and I have never been interested in supporting it again.)
I’ve heard them say things about the products that have no real scientific grounding, and also attempt to explain away the horrible situations so many people have faced.
I have ALSO had one of them explain how one of the company’s top sellers made it to the top…. And it was extremely illegal and unethical.
I want to support my friends. I want them to be motivated and successful. These companies are NOT something I can support and it’s so upsetting to see them get sucked in
Wahoo! All three of my anti-MLM/Scam/Cult-alert warriors have posted today, and I love it! Thank you, Hannah, for your dedication to vigilance and education!💙
My mums friend is in a mlm and after seeing your videos im going to show her them, she needs to know that its not beneficial financially. She claims that she does social media full time but she only gets a few customers which is just my mum and her friends
Hannah can give ppl a lot more grace than I ever could.
So happy to see you in my notifications again! Hope you're feeling well today. Sending love to you and baby. 💕 Thank you for your hard work. I hope everyone's having a great day!! 🦊🌻🍂🍄
The first story is a clear example of parentification. The child felt responsible for her mother, and the mother depended on her child, a dynamic that is extremely toxic/abusive. It's really sad.
When I hear Zeke meow I immediately think it’s one of my cats and I look around 😂😅❤❤ love himmm
Story 2: I recently went to a Young Living class as a guest of a relative. The rep went as far as saying their oils can cure and prevent cancer. I was shocked at all of her outlandish claims! Many of the attendees were also reps and also making such claims. I’m 49, old enough and experienced enough with MLM’s to know better. It was crazy!
I'm so excited to listen to this later today. I've been re-organizing my art studio and listening to these horror story videos has made the task much less monotonous for my helpers and me.
Boiling water and putting in chamomile flowers or thyme is something we’ve always done to free our airways when we had colds and it really helped with a stuffy nose and dry throat. We’ve never used essential oils for inhalation though. Maybe the dose of essential oils was just too high.
I'm so happy you're feeling well enough to come back! I love your videos, particularly the horror stories. I've missed you and them. And congrats on your pregnancy! ❤️
As a disabled person this hurts my heart. When my parents pass they've told me they want me to consider being put under a finical conservator-ship so I can't be scammed like this.
It crushed my heart because I am also a motor disabled person and Jesus Christ...huns are predatory .😔
Hopefully we can learn a lot here...to prevent anyone joining any MLM's.💔💔💔
Hugs!!!!🥰
I’ve never understood why these companies can’t just sell their products in stores like every other company out there. But hearing you say that the main objective to MLMs is recruiting, then that makes sense as to why they are MLMs and not just in stores.
Some companies do have good products, like Tupperware, it lasts forever, unlike all the store bought storage containers.
And I like the two craft stamp companies I know about, and their products. One stamp MLMs just decided to close and now all of their people are devastated. Which is sad for them.
But, as a customer, I’ve been frustrated at the push for new products every year, or every few months. One barely has time to make something out of their latest products, before new stuff comes out. It’s hard to keep up with. And other companies do it too, not just MLMs. One of my favorite companies is re-releasing older products, which is so refreshing! It means I’m not tempted to buy, if I have the items already, and that I have another chance to buy if I want an item that was discontinued before I knew about it. And this idea makes sense as there are so many more customers now then even 10 and more years ago. Just change up the pretty papers and create new ideas with the existing products. Thankfully I’ve gotten away from the constant buying. One just can’t keep up!
These videos are an amazing way to help spread awareness about MLMs. My favorite aunt is unfortunately involved in Doterra and my mom always buys the oils to “not be a bitch” but it’s like now that she’s bought probably at least a grand worth of oils from her in the last 8 years, I had seen her waste enough money. I made sure to keep telling her that she isn’t being rude by not buying them, just tell her you can’t afford to drop money on stuff that isn’t a necessity for you or our family. I wish I knew when I was younger what was going on because it was only in the last couple years that I was finally able to convince my mom not to buy any more as it’s a MLM. She has a hard time saying no so it makes her an easy target to sell the products to, but luckily now she knows that it isn’t a good business. I said, I mean if you want to get essential oils get a few on Etsy or something from a small business… not a “boss babe”.
@34:00 min ... I went to an It Works party for my friend's sister. She measured me before the wrap, and then after the wrap, and I had gained an inch! She said it was water weight. I don't know what it is, why we're drawn to these quick fix things!
😂😂 I thought you were supposed to lose water weight w/those "crazy wrap things," lol
You’re going to be the best mom. You’re so smart and calm and positive, and lemme tell ya it takes lots of calmness and positivity after your baby turns into a toddler. I have 2 toddlers right now, and it’s wild lol. But You’re gonna be so in your element as a mother. Congrats 🎈🧸
The first story, the girl is awesome the way she protected her mom and then educated her mom, and her mom listened!! ❤
I live in Arizona and I do post on local pages when I find MLM storefronts. Not okay
I remember taking Shaklee vitamins as a kid back in the early-to-mid 90’s. My mom bought them from a lady who went to our church. I took the children’s chewable lemon-flavored vitamins, and yes, they were disgusting. And they turned my toothbrush yellow. I’m guessing the adult vitamins were pretty gross as well, because my mom opened a bottle of one when she first got them and had me smell it, and it smelled so terrible that I pretended to pass out.
The Shaklee vitamins story reminds me as a kid a lady at church sold Shaklee, which were very expensive. And yes, they tasted awful. One day, my mom found out about Standard Process vitamins and supplements which were also more than the standard store vitamins, but way less than Shaklee. I’ve taken them over the years ensuing, glad to be away from the Shaklee scammers.
Omg that last story - I'm just like that person. Every time I'm looking for work, I try on all my dress pants, suit jackets, and nice blouses, and I go to the thrift store to buy new ones if anything doesn't fit. I show up to every interview with my hair styled in at least a sleek ponytail and a suit jacket and dress pants and nice blouse, along with a nice folder to carry my resume and a few spare copies lol. I showed up dressed like that for a part time job at Staples. No regrets. I will continue to do this lol.
When I was a teenager a couple at my church that my mom really admired were Shaklee reps, and fell for their pitch. This was in the 70's, so they didn't have the gummies the author of this letter described. There were certainly pills to swallow, however, and many cleaning products. Mom bought those, too. I am not sure how long this went on until she stopped. She never joined thankfully.
That first story was so amazing! Sad but amazing. I don't know why but I've never focused so deeply on the damage MLMs can do.
What you say about prepping teens not to join MLMs is great advice. I’m so glad my dad told me to throw away the Cutco letter when it came in the mail!
The person who sent in Story 3 must have done a lot of self-introspection & real personal development (not the kind that's just mlm self-help brainwashing) to be able to call herself the bad guy & admit she knowingly helped in a scam bc she was desperately lonely & vulnerable. Although it can't undo what's already been done, her story is still a great testimony of how fake these amazing 'before and after' results probably always are. Hopefully it helps more people stay skeptical and wary of all the miracle product bullsht these huns peddle.
Great to see you again!! Always look forward to a Hannah vid - hope you are continuing to feel better (and Hannah Nation will always support your need to take good care of yourself through your pregnancy journey!)
I'm glad that I hate having friends. My wife and I are both home- bodies and we don't really care if we do anything with anyone. It's nice not having to deal with people lol
I am so happy to have you back posting Hannah, your content is always of a really high quality. I'm glad you took the time you needed while you weren't feeling well in your first trimester, but I'm also excited to have your videos to listen to while I work again.
I literally just bought some makeup and wasnt sure if I got the right thing for my needs. The clerk literally told me to give it a shot and if it didnt work out, I could bring it back or exchange. Ive been binging your show, so Im not sure if this is directly related to the stories here but the lady being angry about someone not joining made me think of it haha.
So happy you are back! Congratulations on the news!!! Also, with so many stories in your inbox you could always start making these videos longer ;) I love listening to these during my workday!
48:15 I did the same thing!! I had a similarly bad experience, not once, not twice, but 3 times, (with non-MLMs may I add) and so my first time interviewing for a position after uni I wore basically a 3-piece woman's suit....to a research greenhouse. I'm not entirely sure why my brain didn't think this through. My interviewer asked me, at the end of the interview, if I was okay getting dirty and I was so confused by the question, until he said "well you dressed so nicely...." and I was super embarrassed. I got the job. We had a laugh about it later. He was probably the best boss I have ever had.
Story two is talking about steam therapy which can actually be very good if you have a cold and you’re really congested. Usually it’s done with just plain hot water or with Vicks vapor rub put in the water
My mom did the Vicks.
Hi Hannah, your videos are amazing, very informative yet so light, and your empathy and your kindness truly make it worth watching your channel. I have educated so many people in my life by showing them your videos! So good to have you back, keep up the good work and congratulations on your pregnancy!
A new video TODAY???? Wow!!! Also congrats on your pregnancy 🖤🖤🖤 I hope your baby is as healthy as can be!!!
Story one. i got to tears with emotion when I find out that the daughter helped mom to get out of that horribel MLM.
My mother use to use a lot of Scentsy products. (Not sure how to spell it). My sister got roped into it for a little bit and my mom liked the products so she bought a bit. She stopped when my sister stopped working their but would scavenge value village for donated diffusers and wax melts. I think she has forgotten about it for the most part luckily. She has minor hoarding tendencies so would buy anything she found from the company simply because they were expensive.
Glad you're feeling better and up to filming. You're going to be such a kick a$$ mom.
I would love to see a database of all these horror stories - that can be searchable by MLM. So many negative experiences, it’s hard to think of the scale but I think that would help!
I’m always so surprised Avon is an MLM, my aunts did it for years, they just put orders in for people, they never bought items to have in their homes. Did the set up change?
Diffusing essential oils is extremely harmful to pets…
Yes! I wish more people knew this
We LOVE when YOU read us horror stories!!!!
I was almost scammed by Vector!! When I received a scammy text and googled the building in the area that I used to live where they were “located” I went and did some research and learned real quickly that it was a scam and didn’t interview luckily.
I worked for them but it was an oversaturated market. It wasn't a scam but I just couldn't so it with that situation.
There’s a bobs burgers episode about This and it’s amazing. I love that the writers of that show put that in there
The amount of times I had to (or at least try) yank friends and family out
of these wretched businesses is insane. They are literally everywhere, affecting all sorts of people.