Pastor Mensa Otabil, l want to thank you most sincerely for dealing with this topic from a very sound principle basis. I have listened to the responses of many pastors especially from Nigeria to this issue, unfortunately l wasn't that convinced about their defence of collection of tithes and several offerings within a given service. But your own response is both from knowledge and spiritual perspectives, and l feel so guilty at the moment that l have not paid my tithe and offering for a while now. Your teaching is anointed by the Holy Spirit. Thanks a lot sir. More anointing in Jesus name.
Sir, you have just made my day through this teaching. Let they say whatever they like to say against the tithe, genuine Christians will continue to pay tithe.
Oh! How the Church needs a humble teacher of the Word like this so that no one with pride would come up online to deceive the Church and be insulting everyone. God bless you, Sir.
I hope Abel Damina can hear this are we here to fight, if God is dealing with Abel Damina greed then he should allow God to because not everybody have greed like damina
I do not blame our brother for speaking the way he did... I believe he spoke based on the revelation he has received so far from the Lord on these subject matter unless he's protecting his source of income. Why do I give offering?... We give offerings to meet the needs of the church(members). There's a place in the bible these Tithe preachers/teachers would never show their followers. Deuteronomy 14:22-23 NKJV [22] “You shall truly tithe all the increase of your grain that the field produces year by year. [23] And you shall EAT before the Lord your God, in the place where He chooses to make His name abide, the tithe of your grain and your new wine and your oil, of the firstborn of your herds and your flocks, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. Deuteronomy 14:26 NKJV [26] And you shall spend that money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen or sheep, for wine or similar drink, for whatever your heart desires; you shall EAT there before the Lord your God, and you shall rejoice, you and your household. The word EAT was mentioned twice in this portion of the bible. Which means if you're eating your tithes, you're not paying tithe. The reason why God wants you to eat your tithes is in verse 23... "that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always." However I would also like to mention that Tithes are not for Christians which is why neither Jesus or his disciples paid it. The problem is many don't read the bible which is why men like this will continue to teach falsehood as a means to enrich themselves. Ask yourself why are Christians today not observing feast of passover or isn't that mentioned also in the old testament?
Oga tithe is not a law thing.. and God didn't say people should eat their tithe as u claim .. but they should bring it to his house. If so why did God speak so heavy to Israel about tithing in mal 3:8-10 Listen dispensations changes ..u can't be living life now like it was those days ..money was not so much a means of transaction as it is now.. as long as u can turn your crops or services into money it can be used as offering or tithes Ur problem is not even about the tithe but about those preaching it wanting to scam their congregation and defraud them.. Whoever eats people tithe will as well eat the other kinds of giving....even if he never collects tithe in his church
If you have problems to tithe where you are fed, then you are greedy unless you are giving beyond the tenth. It helps the local Church structure as it did with Old testament priesthood. There are pastors and Missionaries, church workers who should be taken care of from the TITHES and offerings like the Levites. There are pastors and missionaries that serve God full time. Giving to a pastor and a Missionary is more important than giving to a poor. Giving to the poor is good but giving to advance God's Kingdom is most important.
Thank you. In Acts and all the epistles, there is no tithing or offering. Only willing generous giving, also called collections. In Old Testament, both offerings and tither were never money. Jesus is the last and final offering that satisfied God forever. Eph. 5:2
And we are the next ultimate sacrifice in the order Jesus set and here is where we don't want to be all this discussions on giving are human beings avoiding to obey this,and its not easy;------- Romans 12:1-2 New International Version (NIV) Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God-this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. WHEN YOU GIVE YOURSELF ,WHAT OTHER GIVING IS HIGHER AND DIFFICULT?
Although paying tithes wasn't the core message of our Lord Jesus Christ but love and justice however paying tithes itself is not the problem but how it is managed. Tithes was designed as social welfare system by God to solve societal problems as demonstrated by Nehemiah and the early Apostles in Acts 2 and 4 and in several passages on tithes and offerings. No leader of the church (pastors, bishops, prophets etc) are allowed to spend a single kobo, cedis or dime from tithes and offerings except the amount allocated to them for their upkeep by the committee of elders. Unfortunately in Africa most of the leaders especially the the senior pastors are in direct in control of this fund and they use it to satisfy their indulgence and profligate life style while the majority of their members live in abject poverty. I am afraid if many of our pastors will not hear the voice " I know you not, you worker of iniquity" on that day.
Acts 4:32-35 New King James Version (NKJV) And great grace was upon them all. Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, and laid them at the apostles' feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need.. Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, and laid them at the apostles' feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need. NO TITHE HERE BELIEVERS COVERING EACH OTHER, NO GREEDINESS,JUST NEEDS MET. WITH NOTHING TO WORRY, LIFTING HANDS TO WORSHIP GOD EASY,NO WONDER ''GREAT GRACE WAS UPON THEM ALL.''
Then Abraham brought back all that he looted that means 90% he left with. So tht they can not say made him rich. So if we follow his principles we always must give back tht 90%,whenever we get them, if is from your employer give back n say take so that u can't say you made rich.
If giving to God is not working for you, change your heart. Some of us has amazing testimonies of tithing, offering, free gifts, seeds etc. It works and it's working when you give bearing in mind you're obeying God and you love Him.
I think you are representing those who receive the tithes. Christianity has lost the war by allowing this uncontrolled vices in it. Here and there we see stories of Bishops,the custodians to those kits ,leading flamboyant lifestyles,keeping and maintaining many mistresses etc with star-like lifestyle. If these men and women were working like other people ,nothing of the sort will happen. Adulterers will not enter the kingdom and I doubt if they will allow others to enter the kingdom if they continue standing on the door.
Was there a question and answer in this session because there are a lot of questions to be asked. 1. How Abel was able to spot the first born of every animal for ten generations, was he running antenatal for them? 2. Abraham became rich, a man with 400 soldiers and didn't collect anything even they given to him? 3. Noah who was safe and provided for before his offerings? These guys!
Of course, that is exactly tge point. God is more interested in uou meeting tge weightier matters. So, if you cannot satisfy the three weightier matters then all others don't matter to God. I would be grateful if tge proponent of the tithes can show me where in the all the epistles to the Gentiles they were directed to tithe. Show me where in the new testament prosperity comes through tithes. Please in testament Act 3:15, gentiles where directed to observe purity and show love to others but not tithe. Please, have ask yourself whether Paul, Peter and the apostles collected tithes from the fellow Brethen. Secondly, there were specific instructions for tge use of tithes. So, when pastors collect tithes what is God instructions for the use of tithes. Is it to pay themselves as salaries? If thst was so, that would be very interesting since first apostles of Christianity did not collect payment for the work of God. Paul was a tent maker and did not depend on the congregation for support. Who among these modern pastors are more qualified than Paul, Peter and the rest of the Apostles. Strange isn't it, that throughout the new testament after the death of christ the message of the Gospel and Christian giving. All offerings were to be distributed and shared among the Christians. 3. When we say we pay tithe, which tithe are we paying. For there are three types of tithes according to Deuteronomy ie tithes that is paid on the third year and shared among the people. Do Christians practice this type of tithing and observe the usage? If you believe that paying tithes has made you Prosperous, then continue.
Greedy and coveteous people love their money and their goods. So they are filled with self-love and self-worship and hence live in hoarding. They hate to hear about tithe and offering. We give to God regardless of greedy men and women who have no conviction.
Who taught the two how to give offerings? The heart with which we give anything to God is what matters. Cain's heart was not righteous as evidenced by his reaction to his brother. So it's not offering of first born and fat but Abel's heart was righteous. What God requires is not bulls or fruits but to see Himself in us.
Why does money seem to be emphasized so much in religious contexts when God could ask for so much more from us? In Scripture, God's demands and expectations of His people are far broader than just financial contributions. The greatest commandment, according to Jesus, is to love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength (Mark 12:30). This commandment makes it clear that God desires our entire being-our love, loyalty, and devotion -not just our money.In 1 Samuel 15:22, the prophet Samuel tells King Saul, "Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the LORD? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams." This highlights that God values our obedience and faithfulness over ritualistic offerings.
You're right don't even go to the old testament,come near to the new because this is where the confusion sets in Romans 12:1-2 New International Version (NIV) Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God-this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind .THIS WHAT PPLE ARE AVOIDING EXACTLY AS YOU SAID IT IN OTHERWORDS' US FIRST BEING THE OFFERING.
Dr. Mensa Otabil, you are not making scriptural sense in your assertions. At most, you're imposing your understanding on an age-old practice without recourse of allowing scriptures to speak for themselves.
@@akomcephas5135 What do you mean by « covenant practice »? Would circumcision be considered as one? Didn’t it die with the abrogation of the Old Testament covenant ? Heb. 7:11
@@koolumanionwumere1782 Your wrong submission. He is right 👍. Christians don't belong to the old testament doctrines. Study the book of Hebrews please.
What about if you are not working, can joining my faith with another person give me money to give in church without going to look for job? This long message is just smart jargons.
Because in this generation, none of them can follow the instructions about tithing. They are just wasting their resources. Not complete, not accepted! Not for the new testament church anyway.
You are absolutely correct. These are very stingy, self-centred people. That’s the reason they are against tithes when they even should do more than 10%.
If we truly belony to Christ we all have the holy Spirit who is our teacher and couseller why not personally ask for guidance concerning giving in general .. psalm 32:8 Personally by the grace of God I tithe and give offerings and the blessings are almost immediately especially when you are prompted to give an offering of certain amount
Please be reminded that in the Old Testament those who have tithes were allowed to their own tithes and their family Deut 12 : 1 - 15 and Deut 14 : 22 to the end
EVEN THE WORD OLD ITSELF HAS ALOT OF TELLING.Hebrews 8:9 "It will not be like the covenant that I made with their fathers, on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not ◄ Jeremiah 31:32 ►NIV It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD.
I noticed there was no mention that even after Abraham have Melchizadek the tithe, he gave the rest back to the Kings. We can’t do one part and ignore the rest. I guess we must pay tithe from our salaries and return the rest to our employer?
Every gift to God should be freewill. God loves a cheerful giver. I don't believe tithe is a must to serve God. It has nothing to do with your salvation but giving is good because God has done much in everyone's life. The disciples gave all even their lands for God but never taught of tithe. Don't they go to heaven?
You see! The preacher refers to the Old Testament with regard to the giving of tithes and offerings, but does not do so with regard to the use or destination of the offering and tithe!
Tithes and offerings are a divine principle meant to moderate the situation of of those who do temple service, orphans, widows, sojourners, and the poor. But these thieves mastered the art of robbing humanity through an adulterated teaching about the subject. They are already judged.
The underlying principle of tithing is love. Infact everything else centres around God's love for us, which teaches us to love Him and our fellow human beings. Laws had to be put in place for people to follow because without those laws, they didn't know how. They always got things wrong. The laws became a burden and always presented an occasion to stumble. God showed us what love means and how to do it through our saviour, Jesus Christ. God gave so that we would be positioned to give our all too. Not out of compulsion. But out of love. We don't pay again. We give. Now if you want to give any percentage, it is between you and God. A 10% is a good place to start, but don't let it be because you were pressured to pay. Let it be that you are always moved by love to give. Force elicit compliance. Love elicits commitment. When we use force, we produce grudging payers in the house of God.
I will tell you, Jesus nor the apostle never condemned tithing, Jesus and his apostle paid tithe, if Jesus didn't, then he must have violated the law, since scripture said jesus fulfilled all the requirement of the law that includes tithing Jesus will never teach you to violated the law, the bible did not have to mention whether jesus or his disciple paid tithe why becos it was a requirement of a faithful Jews to tithe, before argue to make you point right sit down and think, we are not fighting thank you
@@kingsleyincrease2619 Fight or argue? Where is this one in the question I raised? You could have kept mute. Your silence would have supported your view much better than your display of ignorance. Read and come again.
@@nyameamah please we are not fighting we are just exchanging our views, question was David, all the prophets in the bible, Samson Gideon, Solomon just to name a few were never mentioned in the bible that they tithe, because it wasn't mentioned does it mean they didn't, they did tithe, the reader is supposed to know that it is mandatory for the Jews from this view point jesus and his disciples tithed thank you
@@kingsleyincrease2619 Implicit? Then on what did they (He and his disciples) tithed? The law was explicit: who, how and on what. Can you apply same implications? Let's allow His LOVE to let lead. Thank you 🙏
What we must realise is that, left alone without religion, man cannot feel fulfilled just spending all that comes in for Himself and family only. Its counter to our nature. It will make us feel mean and we'll lose the sweet goosebumps of generosity. Its a spiritual principle that giving ventilates our economy and stirs up more opportunities of income. So no one can really live life with zero giving practice. So it doesn't matter what name you call it, it is wise to give generously to God's course and to man. The mistakes some make is to regard giving to God as an investment or city taxes whereby you have to monitor how the money is spent. This a huge error. When you give to God's course or charity to others, you have no business monitoring how it is spent. You will be rewarded by the God in whom you have faith that He received your offering, or acknowledged your kindness to others. What is done to the money from which you should now be detached is God's business, not yours.
Tithing is valid but you pay it to the poor, the orphans, the strangers, the vulnerable… That is how you give to God. And, Abraham paid from the spoils of war, not from earnings.
Where was wedding mentioned in the new testerment. Where was musterbation mentioned as sin in the new testament? Where was smoking weed mentioned as sin in the entire new testament. Where was rape mentioned as a sin in the new testament. I can go on and on.
If you have problems to tithe where you are fed, then you are greedy unless you are giving beyond the tenth. It helps the local Church structure as it did with Old testament priesthood. There are pastors and Missionaries, church workers who should be taken care of from the TITHES and offerings like the Levites. There are pastors and missionaries that serve God full time. Giving to a pastor and a Missionary is more important than giving to a poor. Giving to the poor is good but giving to advance God's Kingdom is most important.
"Sacrifices and offering, thou wouldest not..." Why so much emphasis on something that is gone? This undue emphasis on money is a testament that we are truly in the last days.
It's curious to observe in this post that only those who share similar view with this message were tagged with love symbol❤. Does it mean anyone with opposing views are not to be loved? Uhmmm Christianity indeed!
If after proclaiming Christianity as a royal priesthood, the apostles concomitantly enjoined Christians to tithe to God, whose sons and priests they claimed to be, they would expose Christianity to the ridicule and scorn of not only the Jews, but also their Gentile neighbours who equally understood the fundamental religious protocols pertaining to every priesthood institution. How do we reconcile the tithe doctrine with the theological sense of the gospel that Christians are sons and priests of God? Such teaching is preposterous as it sadly corrupts the gospel of its doctrinal consistency and robs it of its truth. What did our Lord Jesus say about customs, duties or tributes in God's Kingdom? - "Sons are exempt" (Matthew 17:24-27). To tithe is to worship God in slavery (I Sam. 8:15,17). Paul teaches that when we were children, we were in slavery under the basic principles of the world. This includes traditions such as tithing. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek. And therefore, Abraham was judged to be subordinate to Melchizedek (Heb. 7:4). Did you know why Jesus was a carpenter and not a livestock or crop farmer? It was to avoid paying tithe to the Levitical priesthood which would make Him subordinate to the Levites (Only livestock and crop farmers were required to tithe in Israel - Neh. 10:37). Tithe to any pastor, and you become his slave. Many preachers don't know these traditions of Christianity and claim to be teachers. My heart bleeds for the church!
Then after all is said and done we realise we are gentiles saved by grace and none of this laws are for us. Romans 2:14 Amplified Bible (AMP) When Gentiles, who do not have the Law [since it was given only to Jews], do instinctively the things the Law requires [guided only by their conscience], they are a law to themselves, though they do not have the Law GAL 3:13.Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.[ NB THE LAW IS A CURSE] Ephesians 2:8-9KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Is tithe in the bible , yes so obey or u can chose to disobey. God or heaven doesnt need money , its about the orders , obey it and the blessings that accompany will be at ur availability, quantitatively
Luke 21:3-4 [3]So He said, “Truly I say to you that this poor widow has put in more than all; [4]for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings for God, but she out of her poverty put in all the livelihood that she had.” Jesus Predicts the Destruction of the Temple
Are we followers of Abraham or followers of Jesus Christ,in all ministry of Jesus Christ I do no see any where or any day that Jesus Christ gave me an example by him taking tithe to Caiaphas who was high priest then ,all these do not add up
It is sad when we create an open for the devil to establish his deception on the church of the living God. There is a significant difference between the Church of God and the fallen Adamic race. All the principles enumerated by the pastor had spiritual significance which could only find fulfillment in Christ. The Church is the new creation never existed before. Clearly the principles of the new creation is not founded on the old testament but on the sacrifice of Christ Himself. The believer lives by faith in the finished work of Christ and not the principles of giving and receiving. The believer has sonship and sons ask for their needs. Children don't give to receive. The Apostle Paul said that my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory. In the above principle, our receiving is not precedent on our given but on His riches in glory. There is nowhere in the scriptures that states the new creation has to give substance in exchange for material blessings. He that did not spare His only son from us will also through His son give to us all things.
Malachi 3:10 }✓ Bring Your Full Tithes and Offering into the Storehouse that there may be food (meat) in my house. "Test me in this" Say the Lord God of Host . Maker of the Heaven and Earth; If I will not open the Floodgates of of Heaven and Pour Blessings that you will not have room to contain. NOTE :The Blessings of God is NOT about Materials possessions and Financial might /acquisitions. God uses Man to bless man. Remember the Story of the Woman and the Prophet (Elisha) at Zarephath. Yes, thou the Word of God say, that " My God will supply my need according to his riches in glory".
Can someone please answer my question, why is it that Almost African preacher’s are experts about finance, the only majorities of preacher’s agreed is on the issues of money!
It is because we as Pastor have seen ministry as an opportunity to enrich ourselves. So we have to preach what will make us to squeeze out money from innocent masses. "Get thee behind me, you workers of iniquity" is what the Lord says. He is watching. Every Man's work shall be tested by fire on that day. And all Men shall be exposed.
If tithing is for the new testament church, why didn't Paul teach anybody anywhere on tithing? I believe the majority of the churches he founded are gentile -based and therefore are not conversant on tithing as practice in the old testament.
The law and all its ordinances Jesus Christ nailed them on the cross Ephesians 2 -11-17 removed them out of the way I can never accept any liar to bring me into bondage of the law.tithe is law Mathew23:23.
If you have problems to tithe where you are fed, then you are greedy unless you are giving beyond the tenth. It helps the local Church structure as it did with Old testament priesthood. There are pastors and Missionaries, church workers who should be taken care of from the TITHES and offerings like the Levites. There are pastors and missionaries that serve God full time. Giving to a pastor and a Missionary is more important than giving to a poor. Giving to the poor is good but giving to advance God's Kingdom is most important.
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Teaching that believers in Jesus should pay tithes is a false teaching designed to extort money from the congregation. Legally all believers are Royal Priests and we don't follow Levitical principles of tithing agricultural goods in order to support the priests in the temple. We support our fellow Royal Priests by following the apostles doctrine as demonstrated in acts2v42-47 and Acts4v32-37. You won't find anyone teaching that new testament believers should tithe and U won't find a new testament example of a Christian tithing because it wasn't a thing until after the Roman Catholic church started it around 600AD
We are not in the Leviticus order of priesthood, beside sir, the NT church is not built under the old Israel where we have the levi, the NT church is build upon the disciples of Jesus, we don't just know the Bible
Read Matthew 23:23 to confirm what Jesus, the Chief High Priest Himself, says about Tithe. Be sure to read other versions lest you come up with new false teachings. # I will pay my tithes till I see Jesus !! #Only the Ignorant will oppose tithes and offerings with all their might. #TithingIsgodly
@@sakyiwaadebbie9018 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, pretenders (hypocrites)! For you give a tenth of your mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected and omitted the weightier (more important) matters of the Law-right and justice and mercy and fidelity. These you ought [particularly to have done, without neglecting the others. People like you are the ignorant once, the new testament church is created after the disciples of Jesus not the children of Israel, we don't have levi today in the body of Christ, nobody stop you from paying your tithe but under the law of first mention, Jesus never mentioned anything about tithe again apart from that scripture, so it's not valid
@@sakyiwaadebbie9018 hi. You do understand that Tithing was an old testament principal and when Jesus said Matt23v23 that the agricultural tithe was still required to support the Levitical Priesthood. Under the new covenant Jesus is our High Priest after the order of Melchizedek (not Levi) and tithing is no longer needed because each believer is a living stone and part of the new temple. The tithe was replaced by the apostles doctrine as demonstrated in acts2v42-47 and acts4v32-37, a theme that runs throughout the new testament.
Wow, so he quoted Deuteronomy 12:5-6 but cleverly left out the verse 7 which instructs that they eat the tithes and rejoice and never instructs that the tithes and offerings be paid to anyone or priest??? What??? Deut. 12:5-7 says ' 5.But you shall seek the place that the Lord your God will choose out of all your tribes to put His name and make His habitation there. There you shall go, 6. and there you shall bring your burnt offerings and your sacrifices, your tithes and the contribution that you present, your vow offerings, your freewill offerings, and the firstborn of your herd and of your flock.7. And there you shall eat before the LORD you God, and you shall rejoice, you and your households, in all that you undertake, in which the LORD your God has blessed you". Read your bibles and understandit for yourself. It's all there in black and white. Shalom 😮
😂😂😂 Was Abraham an inhabitant of Salem? Why would he pay tax to Salem? Preachers would twist themselves into knots just to defend tithe and offerings collection
Don't turn out to be foolish Galatians 3 who started in the spirit and are now being put right by works of the law and no body can be made righteousness by works of the law
Why Jesus.. Did Jesus ever collect tithe to His ministty, did His disciples pay or collect tithe? Why did Jesus not collect tithe, why did He not teach it, why did tge apostles not collect or pay tithe equally, why was that word tithe conspicuously so absent in the entire new testament as a principle of the christian faith in all the epistles of the newtestament.. All of them.. Were from the jewish faith but non preached this to the entire gentile church.
When the church started majoring on the minor like prosperity, giving,seed sowing instead of salvation, sanctification,holy Ghost,i know they will soon run of content thus leading to arguments on minors
But honestly Melchizedek could not give communion to people who are just returning from war,talk less of Abraham paying tithe from possessions that were not his.Gen 14:18 Just maybe because Abraham was a man with kind heart.He thought of it wise to return the good Melchizedek has shown to him and the entire army from the battle. You can’t give communion to a man who just returned from killing,neither can one accept tithing from the field of war.Melchizedek in the time never assumed that kindness as a tithe. EVEN WHEN THE KINGS OF SODOM TOLD ABRAHAM TO TAKE FROM THE POSSESSIONS,he refused,knowing his clear intention was not for possession but nephew Lot and family. Y😢u can’t pay tithe from others money,do you?
My question is, Jesus is the master teacher, why didn’t JESUS teach on it? I chose Christ above all teachers! I don’t mean any teachers in all outside the Bible are bad. I just chose Christ!
Hi, I agree with you that Jesus is the master teacher. Just to be clear, are you suggesting with your comment that Jesus did not teach about tithes (I intentionally omit offering here because Jesus’ teachings about that abound). You may be right but not necessarily. In Matthew 23:23 (also Luke 11:42): Jesus directly mentions tithing when He criticizes the Pharisees. He says: “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices-mint, dill, and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law-justice, mercy, and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.” Here, Jesus acknowledges that tithing (giving a tenth) is not wrong, but He rebukes the Pharisees for their focus on external practices (like meticulously tithing) while neglecting the more important principles of justice, mercy, and faithfulness. This indicates that while tithing is good, it should not replace the heart of true obedience and love.
@@dennisokyere3023 First I like how you presented your argument professionally. Jesus didn’t preach on tithes. He told them their practices. Jesus had material needs in his ministry. He asked everyone to give what they have. There was no tithes collection in his ministry. If tithes is a demand of God, Jesus the best teacher would have taught and demonstrated it. Listen to the sermon ON THE MOUNT. That is the main teachings of Christ. His sermons never mentioned tithes. He mentioned giving though! In the new testament they didn’t practice tithes. They encouraged people to give what they had. People sold lands and gave all. That’s what Ananias and Saphira also wanted to please people and lied that they are also giving all.
Tell me where the Apostle paid offering or collected it too Why do you give offering or collect it incase you are a believer. I would rather ask you where Christ or the Apostles condemned tithe. That's what I want you to tell us Sir/Ma
@@FMT1231 Your argument is moot in that the premise is faulty. 1st, offering is not paid; it is a requirement under the mosaic law to atone for something faulty like sin. Thus very different from what you call offering in the church today. Read well John and you will see Judas was the treasurer of the group. The money came from voluntary donations, not tithes. Jesus didn’t need to condemn tithe to make it obsolete; the replacement of the old priesthood took care of it. Please read Hebrews ch. 7
They gave which was another name for offerings. But they paid nor recieved Tithe. Jesus never recieved Tithe even though He was God of all, the priest of Priests.
Dr mensa you are teaching good but you forget there is genesis chapter 12 before genesis 14 before you brand abraham as most blessed which is true,dont forget before God calls abraham in genesis 12 he was very rich he had flocks of cattle, goat ,camels and donkeys which mean the blessing bible is talking is not material blessing ,it must be communicating a spiritual blessing which is salvation for mankind,since when you came to new testament he saw a city which is not build by human hands(spiritual city)1st corithian 3 :11 no other foundation which is laid other than which is build by christ (salvation)
None of the Laws were new they all existed in principle long before Moses codified it into a system to govern the lives a particular nation of people. So, the argument that existed before the Law is not a good one. Sabbath,Circumcision, etc all existed before the law yet we don't practice them today.
Using a concordance and not just listening to what someone says will let you know the meaning of blessing in both old and new testaments. If blessings meant salvation, when GOD said I will bless you and you will be a blessing to others, then that means Abraham got saved and saved others. Who did Abraham saved sir? Let's learn to read bible and use concordance with open mind and not funny mindset.
People who join the church very poor and prosper through the teaching of the bible will do anything to keep tithe and keep christian ignorant Otabil is number one Because he look gentle and preach nicely it's hard to see his false teachings The apostles who walk with Jesus and carry on the teachings of Christ, never collected tithe or pay tithe or told people to pay tithe But Mensa Otabil from Anoba who parents never contributed anything to the gospel is telling you to pay tithe And you sit down and listen and you wont read the bible for yourself These guys are preaching because of the benefits but they have no love for Christ and Christian Jesus brought free will given to the new testament church But he told the Pharisees that Moses instructed them to pay tithe and also do or add the weightier matter which is justice, mercy etc But Otabil will say because Jesus was correcting the Pharisees it means every Christian should pay tithe The more I type the more angry I become because Otabil and co known the truth but greed and personal interest wont allow them to say it Jesus paid all our debt and ask us to support the church through free will given thats exactly what the apostles did
What is wrong Otabil again ??any preachers are trying to out do other by trying to pretend they don't need money for ministry..extravagant give has made the Church reach this far.. I don't understand what man otabil is talking about.
This issue is long over-flogged. Let every Christian seek God's face on the issue. I asked God for myself and God instructed me to pay tithes and I have been doing so, 20 years and counting. My tithe now exceeds my salary by a factor of 400% ever since I started because the windows of heaven over my head are very much open. Christianity is a personal race. Know God for yourself and learn to ask Him what He wants you to do.
Faith is when you trust God for something He keeps and still trust Him. Many people have done that before you furthermore no one can give tithe more than the other. Tithe is tithe not the quantity. You may not be aware some people have given everything like the poor widow and they can't afford to pay tithe. They gave up even their jobs. Again God is looking for a time when faith will be one.If you seek the True God, there will not be two answers for one matter.
@@4custaywithme Tithe is the 10% of your increase and is supposed to be put aside FIRST, then you can enjoy your 90%. That your argument that some have given everything and cannot afford to pay tithe is a contradiction. You do not pay tithe out of zero. A person with zero income is not obligated to pay tithe. If you have money to give, then you have to pay tithe because it is a 10% of an increase. You cannot have one without the other. Not paying tithe is a conscious decision. It is not that you have given everything and you have nothing left to pay tithe. You have simply decided not to. Let us stop the sugarcoating.
@@enod9746 What are we even arguing for?I am a gentile not a JEW Saved by grace,the law and the prophets were until John Rom 14 Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 So they show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts either accusing or defending them 16 on the day when God will judge men’s secrets through Christ Jesus, as proclaimed by my gospel. [Paul who was sent to the gentiles wrote that not me]
@@4custaywithme This is exactly my point. You want to start arguing about the issue of tithe. I am not interested. God is the one who inspired His Word to give us the bible we know it today. I said it clearly: anyone who is not sure of the status of tithe should ask God directly and wait for an answer. Do not pay tithe or pay tithe based on what a pastor has said. Ask God directly!
@@enod9746 There is no new revelation no newvword other than the word alreadygiven my prayer and Gods will is that believers will one day be on the same page. 2cor 2:3 13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at the end of what was fading away.14But their minds were closed. For to this day the same veil remains at the reading of the old covenant. It has not been lifted, because only in Christ can it be removed. 15And even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. 16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
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Where can I get the second episode on this subject, a he said
"to morrow"........??
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@@theocentricstudios Thank you......
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Christianity is historical and apostolic (laid on foundations of apostles and prophet they taught about giving but never taught tithing.
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Pastor Mensa Otabil, l want to thank you most sincerely for dealing with this topic from a very sound principle basis. I have listened to the responses of many pastors especially from Nigeria to this issue, unfortunately l wasn't that convinced about their defence of collection of tithes and several offerings within a given service.
But your own response is both from knowledge and spiritual perspectives, and l feel so guilty at the moment that l have not paid my tithe and offering for a while now. Your teaching is anointed by the Holy Spirit. Thanks a lot sir. More anointing in Jesus name.
Lord, help me to be a covenant giver by providing for me oh Lord to meet this obligation in Jesus prescious name I prayed.Amen.
Sir, you have just made my day through this teaching.
Let they say whatever they like to say against the tithe, genuine Christians will continue to pay tithe.
That doesnt mean the NT church bible supports it
1:31:54 Dr. Mensa, you are a good teacher of the Bible. I love your teaching on tithes and offerings in the church.
Oh! How the Church needs a humble teacher of the Word like this so that no one with pride would come up online to deceive the Church and be insulting everyone. God bless you, Sir.
God richly bless you
We are very proud of you may our lord whom we serve preserve and keep you and our faithful fathers
You teach both new and old together for better understanding. Half truth is no truth
I hope Abel Damina can hear this are we here to fight, if God is dealing with Abel Damina greed then he should allow God to because not everybody have greed like damina
It seems my comments have been deleted am I right?
I do not blame our brother for speaking the way he did... I believe he spoke based on the revelation he has received so far from the Lord on these subject matter unless he's protecting his source of income.
Why do I give offering?... We give offerings to meet the needs of the church(members).
There's a place in the bible these Tithe preachers/teachers would never show their followers.
Deuteronomy 14:22-23 NKJV
[22] “You shall truly tithe all the increase of your grain that the field produces year by year. [23] And you shall EAT before the Lord your God, in the place where He chooses to make His name abide, the tithe of your grain and your new wine and your oil, of the firstborn of your herds and your flocks, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always.
Deuteronomy 14:26 NKJV
[26] And you shall spend that money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen or sheep, for wine or similar drink, for whatever your heart desires; you shall EAT there before the Lord your God, and you shall rejoice, you and your household.
The word EAT was mentioned twice in this portion of the bible. Which means if you're eating your tithes, you're not paying tithe. The reason why God wants you to eat your tithes is in verse 23... "that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always."
However I would also like to mention that Tithes are not for Christians which is why neither Jesus or his disciples paid it.
The problem is many don't read the bible which is why men like this will continue to teach falsehood as a means to enrich themselves. Ask yourself why are Christians today not observing feast of passover or isn't that mentioned also in the old testament?
Brother, you are making sense here. God bless
God bless you
Do whatever that work for you. Tithe works for me. He blesses me
Oga tithe is not a law thing.. and God didn't say people should eat their tithe as u claim .. but they should bring it to his house. If so why did God speak so heavy to Israel about tithing in mal 3:8-10
Listen dispensations changes ..u can't be living life now like it was those days ..money was not so much a means of transaction as it is now.. as long as u can turn your crops or services into money it can be used as offering or tithes
Ur problem is not even about the tithe but about those preaching it wanting to scam their congregation and defraud them..
Whoever eats people tithe will as well eat the other kinds of giving....even if he never collects tithe in his church
Also Abraham was very rich prior to the battle to rescue Lot. Did he ever tithe on any of his personal property?
I agree on free offering but disagree on tithing, seed sowing and first fruits as biblical Christian practices.
I love this message Sir God will anoint you more Sir .
Thank you for giving me more hints about principles and practices
If you have problems to tithe where you are fed, then you are greedy unless you are giving beyond the tenth. It helps the local Church structure as it did with Old testament priesthood. There are pastors and Missionaries, church workers who should be taken care of from the TITHES and offerings like the Levites. There are pastors and missionaries that serve God full time. Giving to a pastor and a Missionary is more important than giving to a poor. Giving to the poor is good but giving to advance God's Kingdom is most important.
Thank you. In Acts and all the epistles, there is no tithing or offering. Only willing generous giving, also called collections. In Old Testament, both offerings and tither were never money. Jesus is the last and final offering that satisfied God forever. Eph. 5:2
And we are the next ultimate sacrifice in the order Jesus set and here is where we don't want to be all this discussions on giving are human beings avoiding to obey this,and its not easy;-------
Romans 12:1-2 New International Version (NIV)
Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God-this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. WHEN YOU GIVE YOURSELF ,WHAT OTHER GIVING IS HIGHER AND DIFFICULT?
Although paying tithes wasn't the core message of our Lord Jesus Christ but love and justice however paying tithes itself is not the problem but how it is managed. Tithes was designed as social welfare system by God to solve societal problems as demonstrated by Nehemiah and the early Apostles in Acts 2 and 4 and in several passages on tithes and offerings. No leader of the church (pastors, bishops, prophets etc) are allowed to spend a single kobo, cedis or dime from tithes and offerings except the amount allocated to them for their upkeep by the committee of elders. Unfortunately in Africa most of the leaders especially the the senior pastors are in direct in control of this fund and they use it to satisfy their indulgence and profligate life style while the majority of their members live in abject poverty. I am afraid if many of our pastors will not hear the voice " I know you not, you worker of iniquity" on that day.
@bolasalak7360: Very well explained & much appreciated
Acts 4:32-35 New King James Version (NKJV)
And great grace was upon them all. Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, and laid them at the apostles' feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need.. Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, and laid them at the apostles' feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need.
NO TITHE HERE BELIEVERS COVERING EACH OTHER, NO GREEDINESS,JUST NEEDS MET. WITH NOTHING TO WORRY, LIFTING HANDS TO WORSHIP GOD EASY,NO WONDER ''GREAT GRACE WAS UPON THEM ALL.''
@@4custaywithme are you practicing this sir?
I love this teaching, God bless you Sir. Please how can get the follow up?
Amazing Teaching. God bless you sir.
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A point in our relationship with God that our faith doesn't matter because his promise and name is at stake.
This is true teaching. God has principles and not a magician. God will bless us if we follow his principles.
Then Abraham brought back all that he looted that means 90% he left with.
So tht they can not say made him rich.
So if we follow his principles we always must give back tht 90%,whenever we get them, if is from your employer give back n say take so that u can't say you made rich.
Abraham did give back to the employer but he sacrificed the other 90%.God also expect us to do the same.Sacrifice every thing.I have done it.
If giving to God is not working for you, change your heart. Some of us has amazing testimonies of tithing, offering, free gifts, seeds etc. It works and it's working when you give bearing in mind you're obeying God and you love Him.
That makes you a Jew /Judaism, not a Christian.
Great comment
I think you are representing those who receive the tithes.
Christianity has lost the war by allowing this uncontrolled vices in it.
Here and there we see stories of Bishops,the custodians to those kits ,leading flamboyant lifestyles,keeping and maintaining many mistresses etc with star-like lifestyle.
If these men and women were working like other people ,nothing of the sort will happen.
Adulterers will not enter the kingdom and I doubt if they will allow others to enter the kingdom if they continue standing on the door.
Was there a question and answer in this session because there are a lot of questions to be asked.
1. How Abel was able to spot the first born of every animal for ten generations, was he running antenatal for them?
2. Abraham became rich, a man with 400 soldiers and didn't collect anything even they given to him?
3. Noah who was safe and provided for before his offerings?
These guys!
Matthew 23:23-24, Christ said Woe on to you for ignoring the most important matters such as Judgment, mercy and faith and following after tithe
Point of correction, weightier matter, it is NOT most important matter.
Of course, that is exactly tge point. God is more interested in uou meeting tge weightier matters. So, if you cannot satisfy the three weightier matters then all others don't matter to God. I would be grateful if tge proponent of the tithes can show me where in the all the epistles to the Gentiles they were directed to tithe. Show me where in the new testament prosperity comes through tithes.
Please in testament Act 3:15, gentiles where directed to observe purity and show love to others but not tithe. Please, have ask yourself whether Paul, Peter and the apostles collected tithes from the fellow Brethen.
Secondly, there were specific instructions for tge use of tithes. So, when pastors collect tithes what is God instructions for the use of tithes. Is it to pay themselves as salaries? If thst was so, that would be very interesting since first apostles of Christianity did not collect payment for the work of God. Paul was a tent maker and did not depend on the congregation for support. Who among these modern pastors are more qualified than Paul, Peter and the rest of the Apostles. Strange isn't it, that throughout the new testament after the death of christ the message of the Gospel and Christian giving. All offerings were to be distributed and shared among the Christians.
3. When we say we pay tithe, which tithe are we paying. For there are three types of tithes according to Deuteronomy ie tithes that is paid on the third year and shared among the people. Do Christians practice this type of tithing and observe the usage? If you believe that paying tithes has made you Prosperous, then continue.
Greedy and coveteous people love their money and their goods. So they are filled with self-love and self-worship and hence live in hoarding. They hate to hear about tithe and offering. We give to God regardless of greedy men and women who have no conviction.
@bernardobeng402 Did Christ actually say that?
Remember God does not take it lightly when His word is twisted by anyone.
@@doslos So what is it ? so weightier is same as weightiest?Just asking.
God bless you Dr. Pastor Otabil. You are indeed a blessing to our generation.
Who taught the two how to give offerings?
The heart with which we give anything to God is what matters. Cain's heart was not righteous as evidenced by his reaction to his brother. So it's not offering of first born and fat but Abel's heart was righteous. What God requires is not bulls or fruits but to see Himself in us.
Why does money seem to be emphasized so much in religious contexts when God could ask for so much more from us? In Scripture, God's demands and expectations of His people are far broader than just financial contributions. The greatest commandment, according to Jesus, is to love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength (Mark 12:30).
This commandment makes it clear that God desires our entire being-our love, loyalty, and devotion -not just our money.In 1 Samuel 15:22, the prophet Samuel tells King Saul, "Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the LORD? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams." This highlights that God values our obedience and faithfulness over ritualistic offerings.
You're right don't even go to the old testament,come near to the new because this is where the confusion sets in
Romans 12:1-2 New International Version (NIV)
Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God-this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind .THIS WHAT PPLE ARE AVOIDING EXACTLY AS YOU SAID IT IN OTHERWORDS' US FIRST BEING THE OFFERING.
Tithing is a covenant practice that attracts covenant blessings. Therefore if you believe in it, you will enjoy the fruit thereof.
Did you say it's a covenant practice? Where is the scriptural backing for your assertions?
Dr. Mensa Otabil, you are not making scriptural sense in your assertions. At most, you're imposing your understanding on an age-old practice without recourse of allowing scriptures to speak for themselves.
@@akomcephas5135 What do you mean by « covenant practice »? Would circumcision be considered as one? Didn’t it die with the abrogation of the Old Testament covenant ? Heb. 7:11
We're you not cecumcised as a man?
Show me one scripture where anyone condemned Tithe in the Bible.
Just one scripture.
Just on scripture.
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Your wrong submission. He is right 👍. Christians don't belong to the old testament doctrines. Study the book of Hebrews please.
At least it works for what we call in Zambia, traditional churches because of structures.
I'm a Nigerian but Pastor Dr Mensa Otabil is one among my respected ministers in Africa
That does not mean he cannot get a teaching wrong, as every Man is susceptible to mistakes.
What about if you are not working, can joining my faith with another person give me money to give in church without going to look for job? This long message is just smart jargons.
Thanks sir. God was the greatest giver. See John 3 vs 16.❤
Thanks for the exposition, please upload part 2 for proper understanding.
Please check the description. 🙏🙏
Check the lives of all who are against this teaching they don't even give the offering they're professing so tithing is a hard thing for them.
Because in this generation, none of them can follow the instructions about tithing. They are just wasting their resources. Not complete, not accepted! Not for the new testament church anyway.
You are absolutely correct. These are very stingy, self-centred people. That’s the reason they are against tithes when they even should do more than 10%.
Luke 11:42, Jesus talked about tithe and told us not to neglect it. Tithe is scriptural
Can we not abuse anyone but focus on the truth according to scriptures.
If we truly belony to Christ we all have the holy Spirit who is our teacher and couseller why not personally ask for guidance concerning giving in general .. psalm 32:8
Personally by the grace of God I tithe and give offerings and the blessings are almost immediately especially when you are prompted to give an offering of certain amount
Please be reminded that in the Old Testament those who have tithes were allowed to their own tithes and their family Deut 12 : 1 - 15 and Deut 14 : 22 to the end
EVEN THE WORD OLD ITSELF HAS ALOT OF TELLING.Hebrews 8:9
"It will not be like the covenant that I made with their fathers, on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not ◄ Jeremiah 31:32 ►NIV
It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD.
I noticed there was no mention that even after Abraham have Melchizadek the tithe, he gave the rest back to the Kings. We can’t do one part and ignore the rest. I guess we must pay tithe from our salaries and return the rest to our employer?
Sound teaching helps us grow. Poor teaching leads us astray. We should read the Bible with care and attention like the Bereans.
Every gift to God should be freewill. God loves a cheerful giver. I don't believe tithe is a must to serve God. It has nothing to do with your salvation but giving is good because God has done much in everyone's life. The disciples gave all even their lands for God but never taught of tithe. Don't they go to heaven?
It's good Old Testament sermon
You see! The preacher refers to the Old Testament with regard to the giving of tithes and offerings, but does not do so with regard to the use or destination of the offering and tithe!
I wish Abel damina can hear this
Oh how I wish
If it was paid to the temple and we are the temple, where then do we take it??
I also do not agree that I give because of any earthly material blessings.
Some comment made out from a bitter hearts. With such bitter hearts, you will not see God.
Tithes and offerings are a divine principle meant to moderate the situation of of those who do temple service, orphans, widows, sojourners, and the poor. But these thieves mastered the art of robbing humanity through an adulterated teaching about the subject. They are already judged.
The underlying principle of tithing is love. Infact everything else centres around God's love for us, which teaches us to love Him and our fellow human beings. Laws had to be put in place for people to follow because without those laws, they didn't know how. They always got things wrong. The laws became a burden and always presented an occasion to stumble. God showed us what love means and how to do it through our saviour, Jesus Christ. God gave so that we would be positioned to give our all too. Not out of compulsion. But out of love. We don't pay again. We give. Now if you want to give any percentage, it is between you and God. A 10% is a good place to start, but don't let it be because you were pressured to pay. Let it be that you are always moved by love to give. Force elicit compliance. Love elicits commitment. When we use force, we produce grudging payers in the house of God.
Hebrews 7 emphasis the abolishing of the levitical Priesthood that demands tithe why has it become one of the Church way to extort money from members
HEB 7&8 galatians very clear but we overlook it you're right.
We can point to several places where people paid tithe in the Bible. Now tell me, from the same source, where Jesus or his followers paid tithe? 🤔
I will tell you, Jesus nor the apostle never condemned tithing, Jesus and his apostle paid tithe, if Jesus didn't, then he must have violated the law, since scripture said jesus fulfilled all the requirement of the law that includes tithing Jesus will never teach you to violated the law, the bible did not have to mention whether jesus or his disciple paid tithe why becos it was a requirement of a faithful Jews to tithe, before argue to make you point right sit down and think, we are not fighting thank you
Jesus didn't oppose it. Read His comment in Matthew 23:23
@@kingsleyincrease2619 Fight or argue? Where is this one in the question I raised?
You could have kept mute. Your silence would have supported your view much better than your display of ignorance. Read and come again.
@@nyameamah please we are not fighting we are just exchanging our views, question was David, all the prophets in the bible, Samson Gideon, Solomon just to name a few were never mentioned in the bible that they tithe, because it wasn't mentioned does it mean they didn't, they did tithe, the reader is supposed to know that it is mandatory for the Jews from this view point jesus and his disciples tithed thank you
@@kingsleyincrease2619 Implicit?
Then on what did they (He and his disciples) tithed? The law was explicit: who, how and on what. Can you apply same implications?
Let's allow His LOVE to let lead. Thank you 🙏
Tithe is am old covenant. Pastor be truthful
What we must realise is that, left alone without religion, man cannot feel fulfilled just spending all that comes in for Himself and family only. Its counter to our nature. It will make us feel mean and we'll lose the sweet goosebumps of generosity.
Its a spiritual principle that giving ventilates our economy and stirs up more opportunities of income. So no one can really live life with zero giving practice.
So it doesn't matter what name you call it, it is wise to give generously to God's course and to man.
The mistakes some make is to regard giving to God as an investment or city taxes whereby you have to monitor how the money is spent. This a huge error. When you give to God's course or charity to others, you have no business monitoring how it is spent. You will be rewarded by the God in whom you have faith that He received your offering, or acknowledged your kindness to others. What is done to the money from which you should now be detached is God's business, not yours.
Thanks for sharing. Where is the PART 2. Please?
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Please I want to know what the Bible is saying concerning.Tithe in the🎉 New Testament by this man of God. Thanks
Kindly can I get the link for part 2 of this series?
God Doesn't need Tides. the Tides is to maintain the church and other things.
Tithing is valid but you pay it to the poor, the orphans, the strangers, the vulnerable… That is how you give to God. And, Abraham paid from the spoils of war, not from earnings.
You can only use scriptures to validate your argument… Their is a reason it was not mentioned even one time in the New Testament.
Where was wedding mentioned in the new testerment.
Where was musterbation mentioned as sin in the new testament?
Where was smoking weed mentioned as sin in the entire new testament.
Where was rape mentioned as a sin in the new testament.
I can go on and on.
If you have problems to tithe where you are fed, then you are greedy unless you are giving beyond the tenth. It helps the local Church structure as it did with Old testament priesthood. There are pastors and Missionaries, church workers who should be taken care of from the TITHES and offerings like the Levites. There are pastors and missionaries that serve God full time. Giving to a pastor and a Missionary is more important than giving to a poor. Giving to the poor is good but giving to advance God's Kingdom is most important.
Please the part 2
What stopped the apostles, Pqul, Peter, James, John Timothy and Christ Himself not preach about this tithe of a principle.?.
Jesus never took tithes nor had a private jet nor cars or a massive mansion but he still fed the hungry.
Jesus and Disciples paid TITHES.
I am a covenant giver🙏
"Sacrifices and offering, thou wouldest not..." Why so much emphasis on something that is gone? This undue emphasis on money is a testament that we are truly in the last days.
I am a covenant giver
It's curious to observe in this post that only those who share similar view with this message were tagged with love symbol❤. Does it mean anyone with opposing views are not to be loved? Uhmmm Christianity indeed!
Why is it that no apostle of Jesus Christ never gave a command to the followers of Jesus to bring tithes to churches they started
Peculiar nation of priests and kings gives out of love for enhancement of the kingdom(genorousity and love)
God is great indeed
If after proclaiming Christianity as a royal priesthood, the apostles concomitantly enjoined Christians to tithe to God, whose sons and priests they claimed to be, they would expose Christianity to the ridicule and scorn of not only the Jews, but also their Gentile neighbours who equally understood the fundamental religious protocols pertaining to every priesthood institution. How do we reconcile the tithe doctrine with the theological sense of the gospel that Christians are sons and priests of God? Such teaching is preposterous as it sadly corrupts the gospel of its doctrinal consistency and robs it of its truth. What did our Lord Jesus say about customs, duties or tributes in God's Kingdom? - "Sons are exempt" (Matthew 17:24-27). To tithe is to worship God in slavery (I Sam. 8:15,17). Paul teaches that when we were children, we were in slavery under the basic principles of the world. This includes traditions such as tithing. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek. And therefore, Abraham was judged to be subordinate to Melchizedek (Heb. 7:4). Did you know why Jesus was a carpenter and not a livestock or crop farmer? It was to avoid paying tithe to the Levitical priesthood which would make Him subordinate to the Levites (Only livestock and crop farmers were required to tithe in Israel - Neh. 10:37). Tithe to any pastor, and you become his slave. Many preachers don't know these traditions of Christianity and claim to be teachers. My heart bleeds for the church!
Then after all is said and done we realise we are gentiles saved by grace and none of this laws are for us.
Romans 2:14 Amplified Bible (AMP)
When Gentiles, who do not have the Law [since it was given only to Jews], do instinctively the things the Law requires [guided only by their conscience], they are a law to themselves, though they do not have the Law
GAL 3:13.Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.[ NB THE LAW IS A CURSE]
Ephesians 2:8-9KJV
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
This has been confusing many christian,do Christian tithee inthe new testament,is it required,?
Plz let as alone who tithe to tithe. Jesus you claim to own says "to Caesar give what is his and to God what is God's.
Is tithe in the bible , yes so obey or u can chose to disobey. God or heaven doesnt need money , its about the orders , obey it and the blessings that accompany will be at ur availability, quantitatively
Luke 21:3-4
[3]So He said, “Truly I say to you that this poor widow has put in more than all;
[4]for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings for God, but she out of her poverty put in all the livelihood that she had.” Jesus Predicts the Destruction of the Temple
Are we followers of Abraham or followers of Jesus Christ,in all ministry of Jesus Christ I do no see any where or any day that Jesus Christ gave me an example by him taking tithe to Caiaphas who was high priest then ,all these do not add up
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@@hikmotademosu Awesome? Are you serious? You have a lot to learn about the Christian and the Law of Moses.
This is deep
I'm not limited now since i started tithing
It is sad when we create an open for the devil to establish his deception on the church of the living God.
There is a significant difference between the Church of God and the fallen Adamic race.
All the principles enumerated by the pastor had spiritual significance which could only find fulfillment in Christ.
The Church is the new creation never existed before. Clearly the principles of the new creation is not founded on the old testament but on the sacrifice of Christ Himself.
The believer lives by faith in the finished work of Christ and not the principles of giving and receiving.
The believer has sonship and sons ask for their needs. Children don't give to receive.
The Apostle Paul said that my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory.
In the above principle, our receiving is not precedent on our given but on His riches in glory.
There is nowhere in the scriptures that states the new creation has to give substance in exchange for material blessings.
He that did not spare His only son from us will also through His son give to us all things.
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Malachi 3:10 }✓ Bring Your Full Tithes and Offering into the Storehouse that there may be food (meat) in my house. "Test me in this" Say the Lord God of Host . Maker of the Heaven and Earth; If I will not open the Floodgates of of Heaven and Pour Blessings that you will not have room to contain.
NOTE :The Blessings of God is NOT about Materials possessions and Financial might /acquisitions.
God uses Man to bless man.
Remember the Story of the Woman and the Prophet (Elisha) at Zarephath.
Yes, thou the Word of God say, that " My God will supply my need according to his riches in glory".
Why did Abraham stop at one tithe and doesn't take more tithes to melkizedek since he lives for ever,lies
Can someone please answer my question, why is it that Almost African preacher’s are experts about finance, the only majorities of preacher’s agreed is on the issues of money!
It is because we as Pastor have seen ministry as an opportunity to enrich ourselves. So we have to preach what will make us to squeeze out money from innocent masses.
"Get thee behind me, you workers of iniquity" is what the Lord says.
He is watching. Every Man's work shall be tested by fire on that day. And all Men shall be exposed.
If tithing is for the new testament church, why didn't Paul teach anybody anywhere on tithing? I believe the majority of the churches he founded are gentile -based and therefore are not conversant on tithing as practice in the old testament.
The law and all its ordinances Jesus Christ nailed them on the cross Ephesians 2 -11-17 removed them out of the way I can never accept any liar to bring me into bondage of the law.tithe is law Mathew23:23.
Tithes and offering is not a law. It's a principle. It was imported in to the law but existed before the law.
If you have problems to tithe where you are fed, then you are greedy unless you are giving beyond the tenth. It helps the local Church structure as it did with Old testament priesthood. There are pastors and Missionaries, church workers who should be taken care of from the TITHES and offerings like the Levites. There are pastors and missionaries that serve God full time. Giving to a pastor and a Missionary is more important than giving to a poor. Giving to the poor is good but giving to advance God's Kingdom is most important.
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Teaching that believers in Jesus should pay tithes is a false teaching designed to extort money from the congregation. Legally all believers are Royal Priests and we don't follow Levitical principles of tithing agricultural goods in order to support the priests in the temple. We support our fellow Royal Priests by following the apostles doctrine as demonstrated in acts2v42-47 and Acts4v32-37. You won't find anyone teaching that new testament believers should tithe and U won't find a new testament example of a Christian tithing because it wasn't a thing until after the Roman Catholic church started it around 600AD
keep ur beliefs to ur self
We are not in the Leviticus order of priesthood, beside sir, the NT church is not built under the old Israel where we have the levi, the NT church is build upon the disciples of Jesus, we don't just know the Bible
Read Matthew 23:23 to confirm what Jesus, the Chief High Priest Himself, says about Tithe. Be sure to read other versions lest you come up with new false teachings.
# I will pay my tithes till I see Jesus !!
#Only the Ignorant will oppose tithes and offerings with all their might.
#TithingIsgodly
@@sakyiwaadebbie9018 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, pretenders (hypocrites)! For you give a tenth of your mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected and omitted the weightier (more important) matters of the Law-right and justice and mercy and fidelity. These you ought [particularly to have done, without neglecting the others.
People like you are the ignorant once, the new testament church is created after the disciples of Jesus not the children of Israel, we don't have levi today in the body of Christ, nobody stop you from paying your tithe but under the law of first mention, Jesus never mentioned anything about tithe again apart from that scripture, so it's not valid
@@sakyiwaadebbie9018 hi. You do understand that Tithing was an old testament principal and when Jesus said Matt23v23 that the agricultural tithe was still required to support the Levitical Priesthood. Under the new covenant Jesus is our High Priest after the order of Melchizedek (not Levi) and tithing is no longer needed because each believer is a living stone and part of the new temple. The tithe was replaced by the apostles doctrine as demonstrated in acts2v42-47 and acts4v32-37, a theme that runs throughout the new testament.
I have high regards and respect for Pastor Mensa Otabil......but on this TITHE matter...I beg to differ.
Abel's offering was QUANTITATIVE....?!
Wow, so he quoted Deuteronomy 12:5-6 but cleverly left out the verse 7 which instructs that they eat the tithes and rejoice and never instructs that the tithes and offerings be paid to anyone or priest??? What??? Deut. 12:5-7 says ' 5.But you shall seek the place that the Lord your God will choose out of all your tribes to put His name and make His habitation there. There you shall go, 6. and there you shall bring your burnt offerings and your sacrifices, your tithes and the contribution that you present, your vow offerings, your freewill offerings, and the firstborn of your herd and of your flock.7. And there you shall eat before the LORD you God, and you shall rejoice, you and your households, in all that you undertake, in which the LORD your God has blessed you". Read your bibles and understandit for yourself. It's all there in black and white. Shalom 😮
1 Peter 2 vs 9 told us that we are priests and kings, peculiar, holy..... Who is receiving tithes or receiving them??? 😮
Because at a time It was just one language. So hebrew was the language for all
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Was Abraham an inhabitant of Salem? Why would he pay tax to Salem? Preachers would twist themselves into knots just to defend tithe and offerings collection
Thank you my brother
Don't turn out to be foolish Galatians 3 who started in the spirit and are now being put right by works of the law and no body can be made righteousness by works of the law
who change tithe to be money
Why Jesus.. Did Jesus ever collect tithe to His ministty, did His disciples pay or collect tithe? Why did Jesus not collect tithe, why did He not teach it, why did tge apostles not collect or pay tithe equally, why was that word tithe conspicuously so absent in the entire new testament as a principle of the christian faith in all the epistles of the newtestament.. All of them.. Were from the jewish faith but non preached this to the entire gentile church.
The love of money is the root of all evil.
Doctrine of Balaam.
Amen
When the church started majoring on the minor like prosperity, giving,seed sowing instead of salvation, sanctification,holy Ghost,i know they will soon run of content thus leading to arguments on minors
Lord help me to be a tithe payer 🙏🙏
Pay your tithe to the poor.
But honestly Melchizedek could not give communion to people who are just returning from war,talk less of Abraham paying tithe from possessions that were not his.Gen 14:18
Just maybe because Abraham was a man with kind heart.He thought of it wise to return the good Melchizedek has shown to him and the entire army from the battle.
You can’t give communion to a man who just returned from killing,neither can one accept tithing from the field of war.Melchizedek in the time never assumed that kindness as a tithe.
EVEN WHEN THE KINGS OF SODOM TOLD ABRAHAM TO TAKE FROM THE POSSESSIONS,he refused,knowing his clear intention was not for possession but nephew Lot and family.
Y😢u can’t pay tithe from others money,do you?
It was his by war booty. He risked his life and retook what was taken in war. He was entitled to a portion by custom.
My question is, Jesus is the master teacher, why didn’t JESUS teach on it? I chose Christ above all teachers! I don’t mean any teachers in all outside the Bible are bad. I just chose Christ!
Hi, I agree with you that Jesus is the master teacher. Just to be clear, are you suggesting with your comment that Jesus did not teach about tithes (I intentionally omit offering here because Jesus’ teachings about that abound). You may be right but not necessarily.
In Matthew 23:23 (also Luke 11:42):
Jesus directly mentions tithing when He criticizes the Pharisees. He says:
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices-mint, dill, and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law-justice, mercy, and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.”
Here, Jesus acknowledges that tithing (giving a tenth) is not wrong, but He rebukes the Pharisees for their focus on external practices (like meticulously tithing) while neglecting the more important principles of justice, mercy, and faithfulness. This indicates that while tithing is good, it should not replace the heart of true obedience and love.
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First I like how you presented your argument professionally. Jesus didn’t preach on tithes. He told them their practices. Jesus had material needs in his ministry. He asked everyone to give what they have. There was no tithes collection in his ministry. If tithes is a demand of God, Jesus the best teacher would have taught and demonstrated it. Listen to the sermon ON THE MOUNT. That is the main teachings of Christ. His sermons never mentioned tithes. He mentioned giving though! In the new testament they didn’t practice tithes. They encouraged people to give what they had. People sold lands and gave all. That’s what Ananias and Saphira also wanted to please people and lied that they are also giving all.
Tithing is not part of Christ. Someone should tell me whether the apostles paid tithe. If they did,to who?
Tell me where the Apostle paid offering or collected it too
Why do you give offering or collect it incase you are a believer.
I would rather ask you where Christ or the Apostles condemned tithe.
That's what I want you to tell us Sir/Ma
@@FMT1231 No where did they pay offering that I know of.
@@FMT1231 what is your point?
@@FMT1231 Your argument is moot in that the premise is faulty. 1st, offering is not paid; it is a requirement under the mosaic law to atone for something faulty like sin. Thus very different from what you call offering in the church today. Read well John and you will see Judas was the treasurer of the group. The money came from voluntary donations, not tithes. Jesus didn’t need to condemn tithe to make it obsolete; the replacement of the old priesthood took care of it. Please read Hebrews ch. 7
They gave which was another name for offerings. But they paid nor recieved Tithe. Jesus never recieved Tithe even though He was God of all, the priest of Priests.
Dr mensa you are teaching good but you forget there is genesis chapter 12 before genesis 14 before you brand abraham as most blessed which is true,dont forget before God calls abraham in genesis 12 he was very rich he had flocks of cattle, goat ,camels and donkeys which mean the blessing bible is talking is not material blessing ,it must be communicating a spiritual blessing which is salvation for mankind,since when you came to new testament he saw a city which is not build by human hands(spiritual city)1st corithian 3 :11 no other foundation which is laid other than which is build by christ (salvation)
None of the Laws were new they all existed in principle long before Moses codified it into a system to govern the lives a particular nation of people.
So, the argument that existed before the Law is not a good one.
Sabbath,Circumcision, etc all existed before the law yet we don't practice them today.
Using a concordance and not just listening to what someone says will let you know the meaning of blessing in both old and new testaments.
If blessings meant salvation, when GOD said I will bless you and you will be a blessing to others, then that means Abraham got saved and saved others.
Who did Abraham saved sir?
Let's learn to read bible and use concordance with open mind and not funny mindset.
People who join the church very poor and prosper through the teaching of the bible will do anything to keep tithe and keep christian ignorant
Otabil is number one
Because he look gentle and preach nicely it's hard to see his false teachings
The apostles who walk with Jesus and carry on the teachings of Christ, never collected tithe or pay tithe or told people to pay tithe
But Mensa Otabil from Anoba who parents never contributed anything to the gospel is telling you to pay tithe
And you sit down and listen and you wont read the bible for yourself
These guys are preaching because of the benefits but they have no love for Christ and Christian
Jesus brought free will given to the new testament church
But he told the Pharisees that Moses instructed them to pay tithe and also do or add the weightier matter which is justice, mercy etc
But Otabil will say because Jesus was correcting the Pharisees it means every Christian should pay tithe
The more I type the more angry I become because Otabil and co known the truth but greed and personal interest wont allow them to say it
Jesus paid all our debt and ask us to support the church through free will given thats exactly what the apostles did
Don't be angry dear brethren everyone is going to account with God there is no gray it's BLACK OR WHITE ...... HELL OR HEAVEN period
What is wrong Otabil again ??any preachers are trying to out do other by trying to pretend they don't need money for ministry..extravagant give has made the Church reach this far.. I don't understand what man otabil is talking about.
This issue is long over-flogged. Let every Christian seek God's face on the issue. I asked God for myself and God instructed me to pay tithes and I have been doing so, 20 years and counting. My tithe now exceeds my salary by a factor of 400% ever since I started because the windows of heaven over my head are very much open. Christianity is a personal race. Know God for yourself and learn to ask Him what He wants you to do.
Faith is when you trust God for something He keeps and still trust Him. Many people have done that before you furthermore no one can give tithe more than the other. Tithe is tithe not the quantity. You may not be aware some people have given everything like the poor widow and they can't afford to pay tithe. They gave up even their jobs. Again God is looking for a time when faith will be one.If you seek the True God, there will not be two answers for one matter.
@@4custaywithme Tithe is the 10% of your increase and is supposed to be put aside FIRST, then you can enjoy your 90%. That your argument that some have given everything and cannot afford to pay tithe is a contradiction. You do not pay tithe out of zero. A person with zero income is not obligated to pay tithe. If you have money to give, then you have to pay tithe because it is a 10% of an increase. You cannot have one without the other. Not paying tithe is a conscious decision. It is not that you have given everything and you have nothing left to pay tithe. You have simply decided not to. Let us stop the sugarcoating.
@@enod9746 What are we even arguing for?I am a gentile not a JEW Saved by grace,the law and the prophets were until John
Rom 14
Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 So they show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts either accusing or defending them 16 on the day when God will judge men’s secrets through Christ Jesus, as proclaimed by my gospel. [Paul who was sent to the gentiles wrote that not me]
@@4custaywithme This is exactly my point. You want to start arguing about the issue of tithe. I am not interested. God is the one who inspired His Word to give us the bible we know it today. I said it clearly: anyone who is not sure of the status of tithe should ask God directly and wait for an answer. Do not pay tithe or pay tithe based on what a pastor has said. Ask God directly!
@@enod9746 There is no new revelation no newvword other than the word alreadygiven my prayer and Gods will is that believers will one day be on the same page.
2cor 2:3 13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at the end of what was fading away.14But their minds were closed. For to this day the same veil remains at the reading of the old covenant. It has not been lifted, because only in Christ can it be removed. 15And even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. 16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.