Brits React to The New Super F-22 Raptor: $7.8 Billion Investment
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Congress actually passed a law making it illegal to sell the f-22 to anyone including Israel.
Good.
Brilliant move.
Congress didn't even have to do that. The U.S was never going to give that tech away, even to its closest allies. There's a reason the UK and South Korea got F-35's and not F-22's ;)
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Japan thought that the F22 was so perfect for their needs that when the the offer to purchase was rejected, Japan wouldn't accept anything less at the time. So they started their own development.
As it turns out, it isn't easy. The US learned step-by-step. Making mistakes and learning along the way. China is only now learning that you can't even skip many steps when you steal the tech. If you don't understand it, you can't replicate it.
Retired jets would be kept in the boneyard for parts. The F22 cannot be sold or given away. they are so advanced that congress passed a law that the Raptor can't even be sold to allies.
Were any stragtegically left behind?
Yes. Same as how you can still see F117 Nighthawks in limited Numbers.@@ginastone9251
No other country will attain any F-22 even if they retire them
The US usually does not sell their military technology unless they have something better already in their arsenal or at least have something in their inventory that can easily defeat what they sell. They usually keep their new toys and sell the previous old tech.
Usa Military is Always 60years ahead on technological advancement..especially for Warfare.
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Both the SU-57 and the J-20 have been proven to be over-exaggerated in what they are capable of. India, Taiwan, and Japan have already shown the J-20 is neither Stealth nor does it have Super Cruise. The SU-57 has recently been detected by Ukraine, the UK, and the US and proven to lack Stealth and Super Cruise. The J-20 uses the same engines as the SU-57, but is a heavier airplane. The still unknown is the electronics and weapon systems of these competing planes, but considering one of Russia's modern Air to Air missiles was recently fired at a NATO spy plane, going 0 out of 2 in hitting its target, these remaining unknowns are most likely not all that the Russians talked them up to be in their papers.
The two planes most likely to overtake the F-22 are the US NGAD and the Japanese F-23. The Japanese F-23 has Super Cruise and the same stealth level of radar cross-section. The base model F-22 and F-23 competed for the US contract back in the 90s, with a manufacturing failure being the reason why the F-22 was chosen over the F-23, as the F-23 had beaten the F-22 in almost all measurables in the head-to-head. It was faster, more maneuverable, could go further, just as stealthy, held more, and had capabilities to upgrade to modern electronics. Japan is the US's most favored ally, and shares in much of the most costly research in areas like radar, sonar, missile defense, and electronics. So they will have available to them the capability to modernize the F-23 to levels as good as the F-35, if not better. Japan was offered the F-35 program to fill its needed role in Air Defense, but they passed and requested the F-23 instead, which says a lot about what capabilities the F-23 in their version will have.
Where the US is so far ahead of everyone is in the manufacturing. The tolerance levels in the different parts to achieve what the US produces is extreme and Russia, China, and Europe haven't yet shown to be able to mass produce products with such extremely tight requirements using the most advanced materials and alloys.
Exactly!! They haven't figured out stealth nor super cruise. Paper tigers is all those planes are. I'd put my money on an F-15 against them 😂
The craziest thing to me is that the F-35 is the 2nd best fighter/multirole aircraft on the planet. And we sell them to several countries that are friends. The F-22 is old by comparison and still better in almost every way, and we can't sell them as a matter of National Security. The old horse is better than the new one in every way...
The F-22 is not better than the F-35 "in every way." The F-35 is way better in tech and it's not even close which is what you'd expect when comparing a 1980s plane and one from the 2010s given how much technology advanced in that time frame.
Japan's F-23 is better than the F-35, and while the final build isn't being released, the base model F-22 was outperformed by the base model F-23, the reason the F-22 won the contract was some parts of the F-23 weren't ready on test date. A failure in manufacturing is why we have the F-22 and not the F-23...US gave the go-ahead for Japan to modernize and produce the F-23. Japan hasn't released much info on their version of the F-23, but it will fly slightly faster, including a supercruise mode, be slightly more aerobatic, and carry more than the base model F-22. If Japan can get F-35-level electronics into its F-23, it may end up taking the crown for the best fighter.
@@jdanon203 it is now. It's getting the radar of the F-35 and is better in every other way. Be afraid.
@@robertevans2450 no. Shhh
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Hi guys, it may interest you to know that, unlike most foreigners, we Americans know that our technologically is typically 15 years (minimally) ahead of what we are told. So we are usually at least 15 years ahead of where we say we are. Alot of people frequently don't understand why our government would divulge information, but the reason is simple--they're lying. We are always more advanced than we ever really admit. Love you guys, keep on trucking.
Exactly, the US government or Military has things that make the F-22 look like a WWI biplane. There are many bases like Area 51. The number 51 stands for something and wasn't just pulled out of a hat or come from some number on a map like they want you to believe. The public just found out about that one. I would put money on something or several somethings in the middle of Alaska. Very low population and millions of square miles of open airspace. I think there is something in Utah as well. I see you did mention 15 years (minimally). It's actually quite a bit more than that. More like a half a century and more. You really don't think what everybody is seeing flying around in our skies comes from another world do you? The distances in space are way to great for travelers from somewhere else to come here. Even with the technology to reach the speed of light, it would still take to long. No what people all over the world are seeing in our skies comes from here and they come from the good old red, white and blue.
NGAD is already done, just not letting people know about it yet
As is tradition
Air Force is leaning towards canceling the NGAD.
So, you're not a people?
lol it’s in the third phase, it’s not done just yet but give it 3-4 more years
I think your thinking of one of it’s requirements of having "loyal wingmen" in which some submissions have reached maturity but all in all give it another 5 years to fully see the true nature of the multi-service NGAD program
The "retired" aircraft that are still considered relevant are sent to the boneyard in the desert for storage. (Davis-Monthan AFB) They will be used for parts for active planes and can be brought back into active service if needed.
The F22 would still dominate any other “5th” gen advisory jets. The Russian one is more of a 4+ gen fighter and they only have a handful of them. The Chinese fighter is better than the Russian fighter but still would not top the F22.
PS: The F-22 is old, but still almost always beats the F-35 (aka Fat Amy) in air superiority fights. And Fat Amy is much newer, with better radar, etc.
The russian and chinese model arent even close to the f22 lol, for the US it comes to numbers, for instance you can make 3 or 4 f35s for every f22 you make shich means woth the f35 you can cover more area with amazing air support from a multi-role aircraft that is great at air to air and air to ground and just have a lot more if you ever take losses, the f35 and f22 are both miles above anything china or Russia has aswell so being able to overwhelm with f35s is cheaper than keeping f22s production on. US air combat doesnt focus on dogfights, we just snipe you before you knew someone was there lol
while the first production F-22 was sold to the USAF around 2005, the design was worked on from the late 1980s and into the 1990s, and design and specifications were concluded before 2001. The F-22 has a top speed in excess of mach 2.1 , and can go over mach 1.7 without afterburners. It's stealth is such that most if not all RADAR scans yield a cross section from the F-22 with the size of about a bumblebee or a marble. The F-22's RADAR package when designed ... they forgot to put a budget on that part, so it had, for years, a radar so powerful that enemy electronics and / or radar equipment would be totally jammed by the F-22 running its radar at maximum power. Minor drawbacks: it tends to run out of missiles before running out of fuel while needing to return to base... but it can refuel in midair. The reason Lockheed martin and the USA military chose to make a plane like the F-35 is because they couldn't sell the F-22 to any country , no matter what. The NGAD would have to be tons better than the F-22 before they consider changing their minds on the rules about selling the F-22 to other countries. F-35 has certain abilities: newer avionics, newer communications, maneuverability tech like the ability to hover/ etc, can hold more and newer missiles by default? and that's about all. Setbacks: F-35 has a lower maximum altitude, and a top speed of about mach 1.5, while having a radar cross section that's about 10 times as large as the F-22.
Well keep in mind, it can also receive updated components and configs so yesterday's technology can be added to the decade aged F22.
you should check out a video about piloting the F-22 - the computers onboard do most of the flying - the pilot inputs the maneuver he wants to perform, and the onboard computers calculate best flight control positions to perform the maneuver. Very ahead of its time in its time (when I was working on F-16 avionics in the US Air Force), and still very powerful weapons package. Also there is videos out there of Davis Monthan Air Force Base - where jets go to die -- also known as the boneyard. That is where most go when retired.
They would be scrapped. It is against US federal law for the F22 to be sold to any other country.
If they would decommission the Raptors while there's other ones in service they will put them out into the airplane graveyard to pull parts from
Think about it, production on these started in 1996, blueprints and everything likely years prior and it was finally publicly released in 2005 and is still the best fighter jet today. Imagine what the U.S has secretly been brewing up and is ready to release
F-22 pilots say that it is easier to pilot the F-22 than it is a basic pilot training prop airplane.
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Crazy they stopped production. Upgrade it and put it in production again!
We have given some aircraft to other countries, but that's not the norm. There are some planes that we've sold, like the F-35. We sink too much money into these planes to give them away. Typically these planes are stored in the desert (AKA, The Bone yard) to prevent corrosion, then their used for spare parts to may be pulled back to service in cases of emergency.
The US has aliens at Area 51 that give them alien tech.
Area 51 is to well known and blown out. There are many more places like that, that nobody knows about. I have a problem with alien tech because if you know anything about space, you know that the distances between stars is way to great. Even with the tech to reach light speed, the distances are still huge. I know we have something but it doesn't come from somewhere else. At least that is the way I look at it. Our governments not wanting to let the people know that aliens really do exist would be very likely. But the aliens agreeing to hide themselves from us I don't think so. To travel sooooooooooooooo far for pretty much nothing, that is a pill way to big to swallow. Another thing, as destructive as the human race is, do you think that aliens would help any of us with any kind of military tech that would help us destroy each other faster? Another very big pill to swallow.
The F22 would scraped,because they are banned from export, thus cannot be exported to any other country
Never underestimate your opponent, that being said the "enemy" is not even close. Tough to get stats on any other countries weapons since they don't broadcast stats like we do. But we do have numbers.... This is only what we disclose to the public.
The F-22 has been upgraded every year it’s been in service.
when the U. S. say they are working on something they already have it completed. We found that out with the stealth bomber.
probably store them at dmafb tucson arizona (bone yard -recondition dept.)
There is some talk about them eventually being transferred over to the top air national guard unit.
I saw a simulation of 10 F-22s that took out the whole Air Force of North Korea in about 30 minutes.
The F22 can not be sold or given to any foreign country by law. If retired, they will be stored in the Arizona desert at what is known as the boneyard. You should do a video on the boneyard. It is quite an operation.
1:46 they’ll sit at an airforce base in Tucson Arizona, where it’s called the “boneyard” where retired planes go sit in the desert of Tucson. I believe Davis-Monthan airforce base. It’s the same base where we are training Ukrainian pilots on the F16. (Which I don’t get why they didn’t send them to Luke airforce base here in Glendale, it’s the largest f16/f35 training base for the United States) since they’re illegal to sell to our allies.
9:57 the Russian SU57 barely exist, there’s like 12 of them exist, and Ukraine has destroyed one already. The Russians are trying to say the SU57 would beat the f35 and F22 hence the 57, it’s the 35 and 22 added up together.
The retired planes tend to be sold or are parked in a bone yard for decades. Then again as we get more technical we may not want them in anyone’s hands. Some old military equipment is given to the military reserves. Some is even sold to Americans ( trucks , tanks etc.).
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as they upgrade the fleet it will probably be handed down to other branches..much like getting your brothers clothes when you grow into them lol
We sell or provide them to our alies to modernize their air defenses. When the US “donated” $85 billion in aid to Ukraine recently, we gave them our current equipment and replaced to with new equipment for our forces.
They would not be just sent to the boneyard. The most logical move w ould be to replace the Eagles in the National Guard with F22s.
Also there has been talk of reopening the line, but there may be an issue if some of the machine tools were scrapped when production was halted.
I think there's a law that says no F22 can not be sold to another country! when they retire an aircraft, They go to an Air Force base in Nevada think somewhere real drive and stored and stored , so it can be recommissioned at a later date if possible
If they are retiring the f-22 they have something even more secret in service. Kinda scary
I saw a video that showed a single F-22 kill a record, 120 F-15 Eagles. Not exact on how many kills, but it was something crazy like 120. They went and built a Transforming Terminator in the air!
The F22 is unreal. That thing is said to had a radar signature size of 1 sq cm! About the size of a marble!
Many would go to the national guard I imagine and the rest for parts. Laser tech is already tested on some US navy ships. To transfer it to planes is a big problem as the laser needs insane amount of power to be effective as a weapon.
There has been some talk that either the sixth or the seventh generation NGAD aircraft will have what they call Meta material on it. So when that is charged, it actually bends light around the aircraft, making it look invisible.
If you think the F-22 looks amazing, take a look at the YF-23 it's competitor during development. Even crazier looking
It's crazy that the NGAD jet that is going to replace the F-22 looks almost exactly like the jets in the 2005 movie Stealth 8:55 which also had a AI version.
Most retired jets will be used for parts, the F22 would probably be a Money Pit for most nations, F15's would probably be the Best Bang for the Buck.
It's not the tool, it's the operator that wins.
I never flew in the military but I have many colleagues that have. In this case, “retirement” means either being scrapped or being sent to storage to eventually be in museums and after an extremely long time they’ll be gutted for any weapons equipment and end up in private hands
Yeah the f -22 is n won't be sold to other countries even after retirement from what I have heard from my buddy in the Air Force that is a pilot of the b1b lancer bomber
The raptor has so many capabilities they don't really talk about just one is the ability to sneak behind enemy lines undetected and paint targets for other aircraft such as the f15 or the lancer to use the larger weapon stores they have to take out targets both air and ground i think the f35 can also do this
Aircraft not sold to another country are usually decommissioned (things greased up for long term storage) at a site in the desert southwest. Google can take you there.
Many of the retired aircraft are sent to the Davis-Monthan Air Force Boneyard in Tucson, Arizona where the humidity is very low and the soil is hard. The AMARG's typical inventory comprises more than 4,400 aircraft, which makes it the largest aircraft storage and preservation facility in the world. The aircraft are cannibalized for parts, destroy, or later put back in service. I recommend you do a YT search and watch the videos. You will be impressed.
They sell F35s not F22s
We don’t have bullet trains..we have aircraft carriers, and Raptors.
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Have seen this plane twice at airshows. It is mind blowing and they don't even show all it can do at the shows. The videos don't come close to seeing it in action first hand.
Feed the raptors they are hungry!!
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Checkout the boneyard at davis-monthan Air Force base.
Taken and stored in the 🏜 near tuscon AZ
The crazy part is that the F-22 was developed in the 80's.
When old military equipment is retired, it can be sold, donated, or scrapped. I highly doubt they would donate or sell the F-22Raptor to a foreign country. The F-22 Raptor was never designed to be exported probably for this reason: it’s a lot of firepower to give to a potential future enemy, but hey, I could be wrong. My guess is the plan was to scrap them, which is a waste, and is probably why Congress voted no on that.
The first retired jets will be stored at "the boneyard" and picked apart for spare parts as needed.
Once they are all retired they'll all be destroyed to keep secrets of its design and material technologies from becoming available to enemy nations.
An example of this is the F14.
Because Iran has F14's all the old F14's at the boneyard have been destroyed so no parts that Iran might need can be stolen and sold to them.
Even the examples of F14's that are displayed in museums have had critical parts damaged in such a way they couldn't be used as spare parts.
Personally, I don't think the Chinese or Russian "stealth" aircraft are anywhere close to matching the Raptor. I'm a firm believer that the US military wants us to think these two countries are a threat in order to justify what is spent on the US military. Don't take that wrong. I feel that the US should continue to spend the amount of money on its military as it does, I just believe the military feels they need to trick us into it.
It's funny to me that the aircraft is being retired but sales are still forbidden. It kinda proves to me that they're not as bad as the military wants us to believe.
They're not even close. If they were, Russia would've taken over Ukraine. China hasn't seen war in ages so they don't have anything other than math to go off of. America has the most experience by-far, spends the most by-far and is the leader in military advancements that other countries want to copy 😂
Think of this, when the Sr-71 came out, in the 1960s, it was way beyond anyone else... and when it was introduced to the public it was because we had something ( still undisclosed ) that was better and more capable.
The United States have been 1 or 2 steps beyond everyone else, we do use our equipment long enough till it becomes out dated, then we put them in reserve units. The F-35 is what is 'seen' Remember we've been using Space fighters for over 20 years, have anyone seen them?
It's what you don't see is what to look for. Think about it, the Sr-71 was flying for 20 years before anyone knew of it.
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It is the only plane that is not allowed to be sold even to our closest allies
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Happy Birthday America🎉❤🇺🇸
We have no problem donating/selling our f-16's and f-35's. We are just not allowed to do such with the f-22 because of it's stealth technology.
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1:44 they will be torn down for parts and/or destroyed. The F-22 is ineligible for sale outside the US.
Yea the F22 is exclusively only for our military we saw how good it was decided to never sell or trade it to anyone
WE WOULD NEVER GIVE THEM AWAY WE DONT EVEN SELL THEM
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You must check out the the 6th generation fighter jets
NO...the F22 is the only airplane that is not exportable. Cannot be purchased by allies. Like the B-2 bomber, they are all stationed inside the United States.
The F-22 is currently banned for export to any other country.
No, they would not let other countries have the F22. They go to an aircraft boneyard. Certain aircraft would never go to other countries. Only joint aircraft go to other countries like the F35, F15, F16. no stealth aircraft.
F-35 is stealth. Very capable stealth too. But yes, it's the only stealth aircraft we sell to other nations
We ain't giving our best tech to anyone. They can turnaround and use them against us.
The F22 will not going to the boneyard for parts ! Maybe some will go directly to the recycling plant. Other will stay at building/hangers with climate control for emergency purposes. Did anyone see the night Hawk F117 in the boneyard ???
The Us military gets what it needs, but not always what it wants...
There's too much proprietary technology in the Raptor to allow anyone else to have it, not even our closest allies.
They will continue to fly for years to come.
They wrap them up and store for emergency, exporting stealth tech is illegal
It's literally illegal for America to sell f22s. It's to preserve an unknown technological advancement.
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1:42 Heeeeell no. They wouldn’t ever donate an F-22. The technology is too advanced. There’s a reason the U.S. government sold F-35s to allied nations but never the F-22.
Exactly 😂 I had to pause and make my own comment about that lol. South Korea and Japan BEGGED for F-22's ...... They got F-35's. So to just hand out F-22's??? Hilarious
They cannot be sold nor given away to any Country including our closest allies, Britan & Israel. If they were to retire them now, they would be making a huge mistake as these aircraft are still technically superior to anything out there including dynamic maneuverability. When they do retire them, they will be likely housed and guarded in a remote hanger and maintained at a very minimal level, just enough so they can be quickly recalled back into service should the need arise. After, and at some point when inventory and technology supersede the need and value, the aircraft will likely be turned over for materials repurposing and salvage.
It seems we are on the verge of the "Star Wars" era.
With 147 military satellites, (that we know of), spending billions on unimaginable technology, the ability to watch our adversaries in real time from space, stealth abilities unmatched, and the best trained pilots in the world, our deterrents are doing what they were designed to do - prevent war if possible, or win any conflict, anywhere, anytime, with overwhelming tech and firepower.
May the Air Force be with you.
So when the US "sells" allied nations fighters 100% of the time its a variant of the original jet. Think of it like models of cars. You can buy the base model but if you want to spend more money you can get more features on the base model. The US will ALWAYS have the top of the line model and we sell the base model to other countries. Its the same airframe just doesnt have all the performance and bells and whistles that the US model has.
With that kind of speed in a laser that powerful which is unheard OF 350Kw. These things would be able to shoot down any ICBM or hypersonic missile and they're going to mass produce them so that will make Russia stockpile of ICBM’s irrelevant if they launch them. And you know they're going to put these lasers on every naval vessel out there that's nuclear power because they would be able to support the power demand it's going to get real interesting out there on the open sea
The F 22 will not be exported at all. They will hold them as spare parts. The new Gen 6 fighters won't be available for a while.
One reason, they want to retired the F-22. Is the F-35 does a better job. Cause they have three version. Navy, Marine and Army. F-22 only have one version. Navy good for air to air combat longer wing to carry more payload. The marine is the hover mode. Easier to make F-35 into any version they needed. While F-22 can not.
F22 is not permitted to be sold to other countries!
They raffle them off to the highest U.S. bidder. Citizens only,which means unfortunately you will not be able to get one.
They have to limitations on the Raptor because it is so fast and maneuverable it can kill the pilot
No country will ever receive even a retired F22!
Watch the navys Manta Ray drones!
It's unlikely the Russian or Chinese plane are as good as advertised. They tend to overstate their capabilities and prove to be less once they actually are tested in the field.