Fret no more. Russia will take down all satellites with their nuclear test. Side effect is that there will be no Internet for a while, but I'm sure you can manage. 😅
I actually think that the danger is not permanently blocking our view it’s only temporary. It stands to reason those spacex satellites are on orbit somewhere around earth right? So if you push the satellite into a higher earth orbit than the satellites it won’t be blocked. I don’t think we should be lambasting the person trying to do something about space travel but asking why govts are unwilling to push out space telescopes out further they should have a bigger budget. I don’t see how this is a situation humanity can’t do some simply already proven engineering to get out of. Am I missing something here because the solution seems to just be pushing the space telescopes out farther it’s not like they will lose comms we had it on the moon. If it is permanent I hate this but logic dictates the solution is just getting off our asses and pushing those telescopes into high orbit by launching a module to do that, the people designing this should have accounted for that in design already. Maybe if we weren’t trying to start ww3 we could fund NASA instead but capitalism means he’s the only one with the budget to make things happen and I think this is a avoidable problem if not a short term annoyance. They will probably always now be blocking earth space telescopes view but frankly satellite telescopes see better and we should just launch more of those as countries take a risk.
The number of people who put blind faith in a wealthy capitalist but are unwilling to listen to scientists who study the problem and freely share their research and technology is baffling.
@@010timeboy27 if you can't answer that question for yourself, it's you that has the real problem. ...tho without a question mark, who knows what you actually meant?
@@azillliasmith2734 100% but, humans want to be gods! We kill and destroy because we can only build and make things. Man can and will never create something from nothing!!!! The only thing we are really good at is destroying. History has proven it.... I say it because of the proof. I wish it was not so.
It's not going to be just "one man". Starlink paying the bills to develop the best space trucking fleet ever while circumventing other countries' control over access to information won't going unnoticed. We can expect to see several competing systems in the next 10 years, I expect.
Honestly won’t be surprised if we hear about him discovering a Green rock in a meteor In the next couple of Years, bro is One Bad Hair Day away from harassing a Space Immigrant
This is super personal to me, as space news has always been my shelter of optimism. How ironic, the billionaire crowning himself as the "pioneer" of human space exploration is posing the greatest threat to actual scientific progress.
I'm just typing extemporaneously and maybe confused and conflated about things - I often am lol. And I'm not sure which specific comments you're referring to so I might not even disagree with you lol. I'm not sure who's done more for switching the world over to EV's than Musk ... and I felt "oppressed" as a non-driver since the 80's by all the pollution from internal combustion engines. I'm not sure who's done more to make space more "affordable" (with the promise of it becoming much more affordable) than Musk which helps science and economies. Etc. I'm not keen on Musk at all - the dangerous bull shit he keeps broadcasting from his exulted pulpit. But I try not to let that diminish my view of his achievements. And I think they are down to him ... not just a matter of timing and the people working for him. His ruthless dictatorial "drive" made things happen I think. My point is, I don't think it's about "Musk" being "oppressed". As a man. Who might, now, be as mad as some Roman Emperors I think he models himself after. It's about ideas and technological - and eventually in astronomical terms, scientific advancement being "oppressed" by stagnation. A lot of people tried to prevent Musk making space flight cheaper and from helping to oust the fossil fuel industry (over all - excepting using things like gas generators for AI now, for the time being). He's not just a 2D "Rich" (and seemingly very silly/repugnant/seemingly-racist) entitled man who probably wants to own the planet and everyone on it. I find him scary! As a long-term strategy, I don't think mega constellations of LEO satellites like Starlink have many decades of commercial relevance to them. I think there's just too much risk/liability of having so much stuff in LEO. As a system it seems quite fragile to me. Even if they become more autonomous, they'd need much higher mobility than they have now in order to avoid future collisions under cascade-type conditions and so on and I don't think they'll all be nuclear powered any time soon. Hopefully they'll become smaller in time and be less of an optical bother, but until they become less relevant as a cluster I think they're going to be a radio problem. I think eventually as labour becomes cheaper in some industries with AI, and we have more distributed but connected renewables, we'll probably have improved fibre optics as their bandwidth improves and on-chip optical processing becomes cheaper and so on, and our wireless connectivity will hopefully become narrower/shorter-distance/cleaner (less leakage) "end points" over time rather than this every-phone getting satellite connectivity tendency. I think priorities will change. But on the flip side, I don't think Earth based Radio Astronomy can simply, in an entitled way, "expect" to be relevant all the time either. There was a time before Earth based radio astronomy. Things change. There will likely be a time after Earth based Radio astronomy. Nothing's sacred. I realised over a year ago my job as a programmer will soon be superseded by AI. I don't have a problem with it. I don't feel oppressed by that! I see it as a "good" thing! I will mourn the loss of lost talent and opportunities for radio astronomy ... it will be a brief, relative radio "dark age". Stories will be lost or never said. Signals missed. Science forgotten. Perspectives and individuality defocused. I hope there will be opportunities for radio astronomy in the future. I think current radio astronomers, should lobby whoever / persuade whoever to force a contractual obligation from large LEO satellite cluster operators to pay for / support the space-related development costs, and placement of radio observatories in appropriate places in Space ... e.g. dark side of the moon comes to mind ... places in shadow etc. There's going to be a period of decline, probably. :( But that seems like a casualty of "progress" to me. The best thing people can do I think, is work toward a better/brighter future and capitalise on "progress" rather than fight it. Try to minimise the disruptive period. Shorten it. Make sure there's an upside for them. Don't just whinge about it but try to make it happen. Keep the science of Radio Astronomy alive. I am sometimes confused by what people are really worried about. Are they really worried about the science? Or are they just worried about their jobs / personal-interests? Business as usual? To me, it seems plain, that cheaper access to space ought to herald a golden age of radio astronomy! Give Space X an opportunity rather than a headache. Let them look "good" lol, but just make sure they pay for it.
Please explain the relationship between "being a rich CEO or company owner" and "operating a modern satellite commications network". Yeah, there's none! It's just bashing someone you don't like. Do you think other companies operating satelllites are poor guys? Other companies have similar plans to set up satellite constellations in very low orbits (because it has huge advantages compared to high geostationary orbits) and they have to have a lot of money, too, or they will fail. This already happened. Next in line, but late, is Jeff Bezos (Amazon). Do you like him more? While Musk sometimes exhibits questionable behavior and opinions, he has founded several successful companies, most of them did not have a guaranteed sucess. The only thing a notices about Bezos is that he is arrogant and talks about a lot about his plans, but hasn't accomplished anything regarding orbital rocketry in many years so far, although Blue Origin was founded one year before SpaceX. Hmm...!?
*Rich douche interferes with scientific research for profit Unemployed oxygen thief with daddy issues, still living at home - "IT`S A CONSPIRACY TO HURT MY DADD.... ERR.... ELON"
@@NoExpertHere Did they even provide videos of the disruptions? I mean, sure, maybe, but to make a dilemma, it's helpful to show some evidence, because this was just talk. And everyone can talk.
yeah it's bad, but this not an issue only to do with Starlink. With the Department of Defence's Starshield, China, Jeff's Bezos' Amazon Kuiper, and even Russia looking to put up 1000s of sats, this is only going to get worse. And it's also not like these Starlinks are doing nothing with 3 million users and growing who depend on it for connectivity. The whole industry needs to do better to reduce the amount of unintended radio emissions
@@user-rr2ox4jy7g Optical is already effected. There are 2 times a day that almost each optical satellite (especially in LEO & MEO) cannot function b/c the sun's light shines off of EM's satellites. Even if the human eye cannot see it, the telescopes are sensitive to see white streaks (dozens, hundreds) across their images. He's not even half way to his 14,000 estimate. We have optical & radar satellites that scan the skies every night for near earth objects (NEO) that may pass close enough to earth, it might require intervention. Google Kessler syndrome (a NASA study by Don Kessler).
Observatories had to be built away from cities as electric lighting became more popular. I think that people would consider Satellite internet/connectivity more helpful in everyday life that it would increasingly force the observatories of the future to be built in a way to avoid this radio and physical interference. This would probably mean more space-based telescopes, however, observatories in space or on the moon/other planets will never be able to be as big/effective as the ones we can build down here on earth.
There have been other billionaires in the past and continue to be in the present who wield such influence comparable to his. Except Elon is much more public about his work compared to others. There's just as much concern elsewhere.
I think that is too benign a term. He's made the US completely dependent on HIM to access space, essentially. One man. He'll have a world-wide internet service that can handle a billion customers. He wants to build the biggest, fastest supercomputer on earth. He wants his own AI. One man. He's paying off federal, state & local officials as fast as they can grab his fist full of dollars. One man. He wants to be Trump's consultant on re-designing & downsizing the gov't by firing all selective service (non-political) employees. One man controls the worlds largest messenger app service, and he regularly tells his engineers to tweak his algos the way he wants it to make him always look good. One Man.
As far as non-radio astronomic imaging goes, there is software that can remove them from the images very easily. It is more of an issue for radio astronomy though
@@moniquem783 If you live in a rural area, internet is the least of your problems. Elon just cares about how to make money for himself and social media, only shallow things.
@@DaimonAnimations this is true. Moving out here was a very good decision. I did try the other options before going with Starlink as I don’t like the shallow rocket man either. Maybe at some point an alternative will come along. Every time he does something vile I find myself checking if there’s another option. So I’m checking often! 😂
So when he's rescuing stranded astronauts the BBC never mentions his name once. Now it's Elon this, Elon that. Anyone would think the BBC has an agenda 😂
No. This has been an issue for a number of years with low orbit satellites. The problem is the volume is growing and thus the problem is getting larger. So no it's just an existing problem that is getting worse with time for radio astronomy.
It's a wonderful problem that will create newer out past those satellites equipment that is technically outdated and needs to be placed in space to get clearer space reach. let me you love my comment :)
@@niharpattnaik9662 a say in what? It's a subscription service accessible to everyone. Do you have a say in the operations of your internet service provider? Get your head out of your as.
@@niharpattnaik9662 do you have a say in the operations of your Internet service provider? Its a subscription service. If you don't want it you migrate to another one. Do you know how many satellites the US government operates and how much radiation they all leak out?
I'm an astrophotographer and I struggle to remove satellite trails from my images, it's a pain and it's getting worse every year. What huge telescopes are you going on about?
@@Jamie-d6g I’m sure it does sound like that to someone with your worldview, yes. _My_ worldview is that Indiana Jones knew how to deal with fascists. And I’m sure you’ll reply “oh so everyone who disagrees with you is a fascist”, allow me to preemptively answer that - no, Elon displays a clearly fascistic worldview, and helps boost content from both covert _and open_ fascists. No hyperbole, dictionary definition fascists.
Where is the GOVERNACE regarding the interests of humanity and the planet. It seems that as long private companies and individuals contribute to the election funds of those who hold power. They can do want they want with impunity.
I grew up on a Hebridean island that didn't have a single street, never mind a street light. We used parafin lamps to see outside at night. Where I am now the nearest streets (of a village) are a mile away but the light from them reduces what can be seen above us by quite a lot.
I am disappointed with Elon Musk. Instead of using his power to help those in need, he is supporting political struggles in other countries. He has the money and power to make peace happen, but he is ignoring it.
Why would he care about you hes a billionaire its human nature to do what you think is best for you just like a human who strives for a job promotion because they can being a billionaire dosent change that people care more about their own ambitions then the sake of others especially billionaires
So do you think Elon's money and power makes a difference on the very long run? You are depending on Elon Musk alone? But are you also aware that billionaires also donate their money to the needy and charities, but did it affect you? Did it affect the people here?
From the inception of Starlink I said these small satellites would create issues. How Starlink was granted permission to pollute lower orbit with thousands of small satellites is beyond me.
Elon Musk needs to register as a *foreign agent* (FARA) for the work he performed at the behest of the Chinese 🇨🇳 government: - He helped China to export forced labor, made in China electric cars to other countries. - He complained all the time, but always praised the Chinese regime. - He advocated for AI slowdown so that China could catch up. - He blocked his Starshield satelite service in Taiwan. - He repeated Chinese lies of the century about independent Taiwan country as a "province of China."
- China has the largest source of rare metals needed to make electric cars plus the talent to do so and the biggest electric car market, obvious place to build them and ship them out until he has a factory in each region. - When China is buying and making your product you want the country on ur side...duh - He advocated AI slow down as a direct aim at OPENAI a company he founded and it gave him time to get his own AI company running. Nothing to do with China - So which country will support his companies more Taiwan or China?? If ur given the choice u would do the same, dont bite the hand that feeds you. Dude you have to realise hes playing a political game with China and cant afford to be against China. You talk about Elon but how many countries are influenced by China to avoid taiwan products and trade. WAKE up man
He's like Trump. A weird silver spoon bigoted grifter that never really grew up. If he didnt have insanely rich parents he'd be selling fake watches in times square cussin out old ladies
@@sproutickler I think you mean "you're upset", because I don't own upset. How does "your upset" work with you? Anyway, I RARELY ever use twitter. He's manipulated it so everyone gets almost every message he sends. Most negative msgs to him get buried so he never sees them. And yes, when I see the most powerful, wealthy private citizen in the world spew trump talking points word-for-word, who promises $45M per mo in dark money (untraceable) 'campaign donations', & then trump turns around & announces EM will be one of his top advisors, & he'll want EM to eliminate the 2.5 Million selective service employees (non-political employees) & replace them w/ political hacks, I mean hires, like what he bragged to trump when his auto workers wanted to unionize or else they'd strike. He fired them all. Their conversation was on a taped recording of the call. Trump said he wants to clean out the FBI, the IRS, the DoJ, the DoD, and appoint only MAGA faithful. Trump wrote this past week he wants EM to recommend directors for NIH, CDC, FDA. Medicare/Medicaid directors, their IG. EM has become the only company that can transport anything the US requires into space. That's called an unregulated monopoly. He's only accountable to no one but the FAA...for flight permits! This is not how a democratic republic is supposed to run. But I have to wonder, if you were a shareholder in X, & it lost 84% of its revenue, & EM's response was (on national TV), "Go fuck yourselves...Go fuck yourselves...Go...fuck...your...selves." Does that sound stable & steady enough to be the trump whisperer to your future president?? Really?
the JWST cost $10 Billion (USD). It was estimated to cost $1Billion (NASA). It was estimated to launch in 2007. It launched Christmas day, 2021. Google the Kessler Syndrome or Kessler effect. It explains how we could lose all access to manned exploration above 100,000 feet. No Moon, no Mars, no Space Station, no manned launch into or pass thru orbit. This can last decades, perhaps even centuries. There are 7,000 to 10,000 (working/non-working/parked) stationary satellites (22,000 miles) that will never 'fall to Earth'. So from 65 miles to 22,000 miles, there can be a cloud of debris in orbit too dense to pass through or remain in orbit without getting hit.
No, even if you're bot counting research, for some of us astrophotography is a therapeutic hobby and I myself struggle to remove satellite trails from my images and it's getting worse every year.
This actor musk on the world stage, knows the earth is flat, he don't tell you this, he's a freemason, the whole world is run by freemasonry, they own this puppet, the people who print money have the most, the bankers, it's s shame that the world is occupied by most people with no brain and no common sense. we all live under a dome, a firmament, and in case you want more, ask freemasonic Google what is the firmament, they even tell you. The world is one big stage of actors and liars, the news is all lies, that's how you know this character musk, through the screen
it's called emissions and immunities. They could have ensured that shiz had to meet certain standards before they deployed it. But, its space and they rushed it.
In 1990, the JWST was estimated to cost $1Billion, and it would launch by 2007. Building started in 1996. It ended up costing $10 Billion, & launched Christmas day, 2021. Will HE pay for the $20B the next one could cost, since his stuff will be ruining the 10's of Billions these earth bound satellites cost (some aren't even finished yet)?
@@chrisbenson6753 Around 100m for most, matching the Orion space radio telescopes at "at least 100m folded out", and those were sent with cave men rockets. Unfortunately they're pointed at the earth. Aside from that I am seeing that space based telescopes have other advantages like not having to hold their own weight eliminating most of the material. And ability to position them at arbitrary distances from each other in any configuration to make any size and characteristic virtual combined telescope. That's what's been achieved so far, The future may also hold space telescopes constructed in space or on the moon that self propel upwards, with no size limits. There's absolutely no way in which enormous advancements in space technology won't allow us to study space far far better
@@chrisbenson6753 Well, that depends. The Atacama Desert has the ALMA Observatory w/ 66 independent dishes that can fan out to a max of 16k, or tight, at 150m between. South Africa has the Square Kilometer Array (SKA) which is 9,000m^2 or 97,000sq.ft., 64 dishes from MeerKAT, one of the precursors to SKA. One of the most advanced radio telescopes in the ATNF in Australia. Eventually, soon, the S.Africa SKA will be 197 dishes and Australia CSIRO w/ 130,000 'christmas tree' antennas will be merged & operated out of Australia. This collab will be the largest, most advanced collection of radio telescopes. I'm wondering if it's a trick question & you want the World-wide Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) from 2017? That's technically the biggest. Regardless, what I was referring to was the optical telescopes, such as ESO's VLT, on Cerro Paranal. It cost 300 million Euros in the 90's. Today, it would cost +500 billion euros (w/ inflation). I've seen images w/ dozens & dozens of diagonal lines across their images. Another is the ELT & we'll be lucky if it's built for at least 2 billion Euro & completed by 2028 (or '29, but for sure, '30). I'm even worried about the LSST (Vera Rubin Observatory) to open end of 2025. I can't find the actual budget. It's half a billion here, $57 million there. It's not transparent. But what future will it have w/ 30,000 to 40,000...even 50K satellites in orbit? As I mentioned in my post, in 1 month, there were 55 times where human intervention was required to "re-arrange orbital paths" (avoid possible collisions). And each 'move' increases the odds of having to make future adjustments b/c of the earlier moves. This unregulated, "1st come, grabs all they can" approach ain't gonna work! Every decade they re-evaluate the Kessler modeling, & each decade they predict sooner than the last review, & they find more stuff than they thought was up there. Space-faring countries are going to panic from FOMO, & start hurling what they can up there. What if an unstoppable cascade occurs? It will be back to the 1940's to 1950's tech. No more manned flight, no LEO, MEO, even GEO could be lost for decades...even centuries. No Moon, no Mars trips. No human spaceflight. And imagine the economic stone-age the world will have. Weather & hurricane forecasting. World banking. I gotta go to bed.
You can put in regulation on how much shielding etc the devices in satellites need to have. ofc wealthy companies and individuals will want to cheap out on this.
If you're doing a positive news on SpaceX without mentioning Elon Musk, then you should also do the negative news on SpaceX without mentioning Elon Musk.
Been predicting this for decades, we need limits on how many satellites people can launch into orbit, obviously "unlimited satellites" would be disastrous eventually
At some point in the future it will be extremely difficult to launch new satellites into orbit without collisions. This is a also the case for human space flight. So, no its not just a theoretical issue. Do a search on "space debris" to get an idea the volume of high speed junk spinning around the globe. This is not an Elon only issue. Starlink is low orbit and most space junk is far higher.
The orbit that Elon's satellites which measure less than 5 metres follow covers an area more than the entire ocean and continents cover on earth, yet people complain about space pollution lol .
See that's why you didn't graduate from Highschool 😢, shame you haven't learned to shut up and actually think and understand what your peers are saying and try to understand that obviously they're true.
@@lastrival1315 Again? Still I urge you to complete a high school diploma, then attend a decent university in which you should take Astronomy 101, then you'll have some idea how the things work in scientific astronomical observatory, your eyeballs are sadly not an astronomical observatory.
@@benbarberian1701 my my which era do you live in ? Ground based observation ? Seriously ?? This makes me really doubt you whether you have completed highschool or not, ever heard of the term atmospheric REFRACTION ? ever heard of James Webb at L2 , or Hubble atleast ?? And did you ever try to know the reason why they are kept so far up in the space ?? Now don’t tell me Elon’s satellites are even blocking up those telescopes too lol.
@@lastrival1315 See this is the reason I'm telling you to complete highschool diploma, radio waves don't suffer refraction or attenuation from atmosphere, so it's the only wavelength spectrum which can be observed unhindered, I think policy makers are also as dumb or illiterate as you, that's why they're unconcerned.
*YEAH BUT BE REASONABLE - ELON NEEDS TO GET RICHER...!!!* he HAS to make a profit even if it ends scientific astronomy - surely that's a small price to pay to make the richest man on earth even richer...?
The scientific community JUST realized this was going to be an issue? Other countries are doing their own version of starlink constellations . How did this not occur to some of the smartest scientists in the world ? Good grief! 😂
it's been a big concern since elon musk said he was going to put thousands of satellites into low earth orbit. you can search and find all the comments about it. you just saw this today, doesn't mean it's an issue now and they couldn't predict it.
Unfortuently Satellites are more important to us on earth day to day than looking at distance stars so I think it's on the scientific community to work around them. About time we had telescopes all over the moon tbh.
Perfect analogy, brillant, exactely the same implications for science. Proof is, we haven't been able to study the sun since that time because of buildings.
they could aproach him and request that he puts radio telescopes in space at a higher orbit then the starlink satalites to compensate at his cost of course. he does have the facilities to do so
Nobody cares about the universe until someone tries to provide internet to the entire planet. If you ask him nicely, he may just employ a starship to place a telescope on the Moon or in deep space once it is fully operational. Until then, the aliens will have to go unnoticed.
And it also just ruins the night sky for amateur astronomers or people who enjoy watching the night sky
Aw bless!
Fret no more. Russia will take down all satellites with their nuclear test. Side effect is that there will be no Internet for a while, but I'm sure you can manage. 😅
progress needs to sacrifice something.
@@gamemaster21 choose something else
@@mugenmugen9632 worst things have happened
They knew this was happening years ago.
😂😂it is an excuse for them to sue scum Elon banks 🏦
as far back as 1978, NASA scientists explained what could happen worst case scenario (Kessler Effect).
@@davids1inwestholl45 here comes fears 🚨
I actually think that the danger is not permanently blocking our view it’s only temporary. It stands to reason those spacex satellites are on orbit somewhere around earth right? So if you push the satellite into a higher earth orbit than the satellites it won’t be blocked. I don’t think we should be lambasting the person trying to do something about space travel but asking why govts are unwilling to push out space telescopes out further they should have a bigger budget. I don’t see how this is a situation humanity can’t do some simply already proven engineering to get out of. Am I missing something here because the solution seems to just be pushing the space telescopes out farther it’s not like they will lose comms we had it on the moon. If it is permanent I hate this but logic dictates the solution is just getting off our asses and pushing those telescopes into high orbit by launching a module to do that, the people designing this should have accounted for that in design already. Maybe if we weren’t trying to start ww3 we could fund NASA instead but capitalism means he’s the only one with the budget to make things happen and I think this is a avoidable problem if not a short term annoyance. They will probably always now be blocking earth space telescopes view but frankly satellite telescopes see better and we should just launch more of those as countries take a risk.
@@spagooter1807 spaceX are speeding American 🇺🇸 rocket launches 🚀 to space station
Petty economy
India in space launch
Russia china ect ect
The number of people who put blind faith in a wealthy capitalist but are unwilling to listen to scientists who study the problem and freely share their research and technology is baffling.
Was 'wealthy capitalist' supposed to be pejorative? 😂What makes him more capitalist than you
Freely?? Who do you think pays scientists? Thats right, companies pay scientists to confirm their own opinion.
Wake up honey.
@@010timeboy27 I think they were just emphasizing that he didn't get to his position through education or scientific expertise
@@010timeboy27 if you can't answer that question for yourself, it's you that has the real problem.
...tho without a question mark, who knows what you actually meant?
@@derekscanlan4641 The fact that you enjoy being an online grammar nazi tells me all I need to know. Won't waste my time
You can't own space!
You can't own earth either .....but....
@@azillliasmith2734
100% but, humans want to be gods! We kill and destroy because we can only build and make things. Man can and will never create something from nothing!!!! The only thing we are really good at is destroying. History has proven it.... I say it because of the proof. I wish it was not so.
They will have a good try, without asking anyone for a vote
@@Fab666. Tzar Pootin asked for an election in Russia, & received 115% of the votes!
No one man should be able to have such immense power over everyone else.....ever!!!
Says who, you? Tossa
It's not going to be just "one man". Starlink paying the bills to develop the best space trucking fleet ever while circumventing other countries' control over access to information won't going unnoticed. We can expect to see several competing systems in the next 10 years, I expect.
cope
@@trs4u lol. No.
go and vote against it LUL
Lex Luthor, is that you?
Honestly won’t be surprised if we hear about him discovering a Green rock in a meteor In the next couple of Years, bro is One Bad Hair Day away from harassing a Space Immigrant
He wishes. Bezos is the closest one to Superman's baldest hater
That's Jeff Bezos. Are you blind?
I always thought he was closer to the penguin.
😂😂😂😂🤦. . funny one
Signal pollution is what she's describing.
But but but humanity NEEDS access to fast social media 😂
One more bathroom selfie or guac on toast pic, and I've had it with the internet for good.
@@niharpattnaik9662 then leave it, no one is forcing you to use it
and also, starlink is worldwide, as in not just USA
This is super personal to me, as space news has always been my shelter of optimism. How ironic, the billionaire crowning himself as the "pioneer" of human space exploration is posing the greatest threat to actual scientific progress.
Be optimistic then, more satellites in MEO above these ones can have telescopes. Problem solved.
@@theJACKATIC I can be optimistic, but I cannot be delusional.
I don't think you are a scientist because if you were you would realize scientist don't have these kind of problems.
All this is it's just Sour talk.
Scientific progress. Like what? Keep believing that CGI composite images are real.
@@kodainokami8552 Spotted the elon stan
They've picked this dude to blame, but this has been happening for a long time.
They don't like him because he took Twitter out of the hands of the establishment.
Why are people in the comments defending the richest man in the world, who owns his own communication platform, as though he is oppressed?
The sooner Musk is rocketed off to Mars, the better!
He’s just another globalist puppet pushing their agenda!
I'm just typing extemporaneously and maybe confused and conflated about things - I often am lol.
And I'm not sure which specific comments you're referring to so I might not even disagree with you lol.
I'm not sure who's done more for switching the world over to EV's than Musk ... and I felt "oppressed" as a non-driver since the 80's by all the pollution from internal combustion engines.
I'm not sure who's done more to make space more "affordable" (with the promise of it becoming much more affordable) than Musk which helps science and economies.
Etc.
I'm not keen on Musk at all - the dangerous bull shit he keeps broadcasting from his exulted pulpit. But I try not to let that diminish my view of his achievements. And I think they are down to him ... not just a matter of timing and the people working for him. His ruthless dictatorial "drive" made things happen I think.
My point is, I don't think it's about "Musk" being "oppressed". As a man. Who might, now, be as mad as some Roman Emperors I think he models himself after. It's about ideas and technological - and eventually in astronomical terms, scientific advancement being "oppressed" by stagnation. A lot of people tried to prevent Musk making space flight cheaper and from helping to oust the fossil fuel industry (over all - excepting using things like gas generators for AI now, for the time being).
He's not just a 2D "Rich" (and seemingly very silly/repugnant/seemingly-racist) entitled man who probably wants to own the planet and everyone on it. I find him scary!
As a long-term strategy, I don't think mega constellations of LEO satellites like Starlink have many decades of commercial relevance to them. I think there's just too much risk/liability of having so much stuff in LEO. As a system it seems quite fragile to me. Even if they become more autonomous, they'd need much higher mobility than they have now in order to avoid future collisions under cascade-type conditions and so on and I don't think they'll all be nuclear powered any time soon. Hopefully they'll become smaller in time and be less of an optical bother, but until they become less relevant as a cluster I think they're going to be a radio problem. I think eventually as labour becomes cheaper in some industries with AI, and we have more distributed but connected renewables, we'll probably have improved fibre optics as their bandwidth improves and on-chip optical processing becomes cheaper and so on, and our wireless connectivity will hopefully become narrower/shorter-distance/cleaner (less leakage) "end points" over time rather than this every-phone getting satellite connectivity tendency. I think priorities will change.
But on the flip side, I don't think Earth based Radio Astronomy can simply, in an entitled way, "expect" to be relevant all the time either. There was a time before Earth based radio astronomy. Things change. There will likely be a time after Earth based Radio astronomy. Nothing's sacred. I realised over a year ago my job as a programmer will soon be superseded by AI. I don't have a problem with it. I don't feel oppressed by that! I see it as a "good" thing! I will mourn the loss of lost talent and opportunities for radio astronomy ... it will be a brief, relative radio "dark age". Stories will be lost or never said. Signals missed. Science forgotten. Perspectives and individuality defocused.
I hope there will be opportunities for radio astronomy in the future.
I think current radio astronomers, should lobby whoever / persuade whoever to force a contractual obligation from large LEO satellite cluster operators to pay for / support the space-related development costs, and placement of radio observatories in appropriate places in Space ... e.g. dark side of the moon comes to mind ... places in shadow etc.
There's going to be a period of decline, probably. :( But that seems like a casualty of "progress" to me.
The best thing people can do I think, is work toward a better/brighter future and capitalise on "progress" rather than fight it. Try to minimise the disruptive period. Shorten it. Make sure there's an upside for them. Don't just whinge about it but try to make it happen. Keep the science of Radio Astronomy alive.
I am sometimes confused by what people are really worried about. Are they really worried about the science? Or are they just worried about their jobs / personal-interests? Business as usual?
To me, it seems plain, that cheaper access to space ought to herald a golden age of radio astronomy!
Give Space X an opportunity rather than a headache. Let them look "good" lol, but just make sure they pay for it.
Oh but it was all fine and dandy when Twitter was a vv0ke cesspool
Please explain the relationship between "being a rich CEO or company owner" and "operating a modern satellite commications network". Yeah, there's none! It's just bashing someone you don't like.
Do you think other companies operating satelllites are poor guys? Other companies have similar plans to set up satellite constellations in very low orbits (because it has huge advantages compared to high geostationary orbits) and they have to have a lot of money, too, or they will fail. This already happened.
Next in line, but late, is Jeff Bezos (Amazon). Do you like him more? While Musk sometimes exhibits questionable behavior and opinions, he has founded several successful companies, most of them did not have a guaranteed sucess. The only thing a notices about Bezos is that he is arrogant and talks about a lot about his plans, but hasn't accomplished anything regarding orbital rocketry in many years so far, although Blue Origin was founded one year before SpaceX. Hmm...!?
time to sue Elon into consciousness.
Errrrr it’s a US Government Contract
@@jimcourt9164 Hey stop misleading people with these comments.
You can't sue simply because you are jealous
You sound just like our administration.... and the Chinese ccp and putin .
They too say things like this about people that they disagree with.
@mike4769 he's not jealous. He doesn't agree with what elon is saying. ... and ofcause that's his solution. That's the new American.
People have problems.What about other companies satellites.Why only Elon Musk?
The guest did a good job at explaining
She's an expert though not a biased newsreader who spouts opinion not fact......
Bbc is just wanting some kind of excuse to attack musk because he defends free speech and gives the middle finger if someone tells him to censor
@@azillliasmith2734so tell me about all the other satellites in orbit from different countries including the us
@@anthonydoane4669 think about who started the race and how the others were influenced
another dilemma to take elon down
But this complaint makes sense
@NoExpertHere no it really doesnt do you have any idea how much trash is in orbit and guess who put it there it was musk
*Rich douche interferes with scientific research for profit
Unemployed oxygen thief with daddy issues, still living at home - "IT`S A CONSPIRACY TO HURT MY DADD.... ERR.... ELON"
@@NoExpertHere Did they even provide videos of the disruptions? I mean, sure, maybe, but to make a dilemma, it's helpful to show some evidence, because this was just talk. And everyone can talk.
About bloody well time mainstream media starts talking about this
yeah it's bad, but this not an issue only to do with Starlink. With the Department of Defence's Starshield, China, Jeff's Bezos' Amazon Kuiper, and even Russia looking to put up 1000s of sats, this is only going to get worse. And it's also not like these Starlinks are doing nothing with 3 million users and growing who depend on it for connectivity. The whole industry needs to do better to reduce the amount of unintended radio emissions
shush, they can only hate on elon, they dont care about anyone else
The majority of satellites in space are Starlink. Two-thirds of them.
Wants the human race to be multi planetary but blocks out the view of where to go...... The irony
"Entire field of radio astronomy" she said, so its Radio, its in the name
Nothing ironic at all I bet you use tampons
@@user-rr2ox4jy7g Optical is already effected. There are 2 times a day that almost each optical satellite (especially in LEO & MEO) cannot function b/c the sun's light shines off of EM's satellites. Even if the human eye cannot see it, the telescopes are sensitive to see white streaks (dozens, hundreds) across their images. He's not even half way to his 14,000 estimate. We have optical & radar satellites that scan the skies every night for near earth objects (NEO) that may pass close enough to earth, it might require intervention.
Google Kessler syndrome (a NASA study by Don Kessler).
@@user-rr2ox4jy7gthat entire comment section is saturated with ignorant comments
*sniff *sniff... smells like POLITICAL BULLSHIT...
Keep free speech alive!
Keep Space CLEAN
@@Strickalator Stop BS attacks on champions of free speech!
Observatories had to be built away from cities as electric lighting became more popular. I think that people would consider Satellite internet/connectivity more helpful in everyday life that it would increasingly force the observatories of the future to be built in a way to avoid this radio and physical interference. This would probably mean more space-based telescopes, however, observatories in space or on the moon/other planets will never be able to be as big/effective as the ones we can build down here on earth.
On the moon it might in future be possible to install some very big observatories.
The guy is larger than life, and is quickly becoming the ultimate Big Brother.
There have been other billionaires in the past and continue to be in the present who wield such influence comparable to his. Except Elon is much more public about his work compared to others. There's just as much concern elsewhere.
Your surname is a foot complaint
I think that is too benign a term. He's made the US completely dependent on HIM to access space, essentially. One man. He'll have a world-wide internet service that can handle a billion customers. He wants to build the biggest, fastest supercomputer on earth. He wants his own AI. One man. He's paying off federal, state & local officials as fast as they can grab his fist full of dollars. One man. He wants to be Trump's consultant on re-designing & downsizing the gov't by firing all selective service (non-political) employees. One man controls the worlds largest messenger app service, and he regularly tells his engineers to tweak his algos the way he wants it to make him always look good. One Man.
You think he has time to listen in. That's what the NSA is doing
*sniff *sniff... smells like POLITICAL BULLSHIT...
As far as non-radio astronomic imaging goes, there is software that can remove them from the images very easily. It is more of an issue for radio astronomy though
Positive news about SpaceX (no mention of Elon) Negative news involving SpaceX ( there goes Elon featuring in the title heading)
Because Elon has aligned with trump and the BBC is for Harris so they will do anything they can to make him look bad
Wahhh!🍼
Quit being mean to Daddy Musk!
Hes a scumbag spending daddys blood money.
...and so? Maybe it's just about your hurt feelings?
On the plus side, my internet connection has never been better. No one’s complaining about that are they.
It's crap. wtf are you on about?
It’s better than the alternatives I have in a rural area, but it’s not mind bogglingly wonderful.
@@moniquem783 If you live in a rural area, internet is the least of your problems. Elon just cares about how to make money for himself and social media, only shallow things.
@@DaimonAnimations this is true. Moving out here was a very good decision.
I did try the other options before going with Starlink as I don’t like the shallow rocket man either. Maybe at some point an alternative will come along. Every time he does something vile I find myself checking if there’s another option. So I’m checking often! 😂
@@publics.public u even using starlink?
So when he's rescuing stranded astronauts the BBC never mentions his name once. Now it's Elon this, Elon that. Anyone would think the BBC has an agenda 😂
Two things can be true. SpaceX can help space science and also damage it.
OR enough people are talking about the megalomaniac?
No. This has been an issue for a number of years with low orbit satellites. The problem is the volume is growing and thus the problem is getting larger. So no it's just an existing problem that is getting worse with time for radio astronomy.
It's a wonderful problem that will create newer out past those satellites equipment that is technically outdated and needs to be placed in space to get clearer space reach. let me you love my comment :)
Ridiculous claims
And all the other satellites don't leak radio signals ? Only those of Elon Musk ???
Starlink, by numbers alone, has the largest number of satellites ever owned by a single individual so yes.
@@niharpattnaik9662 a single individual? I thought the whole world was using it for Internet access even in remote places.
@@mugenmugen9632 Yea but the "whole world" doesn't have a say in it, do they?
@@niharpattnaik9662 a say in what? It's a subscription service accessible to everyone. Do you have a say in the operations of your internet service provider? Get your head out of your as.
@@niharpattnaik9662 do you have a say in the operations of your Internet service provider? Its a subscription service. If you don't want it you migrate to another one. Do you know how many satellites the US government operates and how much radiation they all leak out?
But spacex starship can send huge telescopes out into space past the satellite 🛰
Prove it.
I'm an astrophotographer and I struggle to remove satellite trails from my images, it's a pain and it's getting worse every year. What huge telescopes are you going on about?
We should block Elon Musk’s “view” of oxygenated environments.
Typical ignorant leftie hatred
Better still block his access .😉
@@jamespatrickmcinch2519 that is rather what I meant 😄
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated sounds like someone thinks just because they disagree with someone, that person should be "canceled and banned"
@@Jamie-d6g I’m sure it does sound like that to someone with your worldview, yes. _My_ worldview is that Indiana Jones knew how to deal with fascists. And I’m sure you’ll reply “oh so everyone who disagrees with you is a fascist”, allow me to preemptively answer that - no, Elon displays a clearly fascistic worldview, and helps boost content from both covert _and open_ fascists. No hyperbole, dictionary definition fascists.
i wish more scientists were as glamourous as her. She looks like shes like a scientist from a 007 film
Octopussy
I wanna hear her talk dirty
It's no wonder so many women become lesbians these days with men like you on the market.
"She" was born a man, do you feel 10 lbs gayer now? Lmao
The earrings are preposterous.
as if atmosphere pollution isnt doing it 10x worse
It was rare just 20 years ago to see a satellight when you looked up. Now I see one within seconds usually
Alot of other countries are going to do this as well ..
Where is the GOVERNACE regarding the interests of humanity and the planet. It seems that as long private companies and individuals contribute to the election funds of those who hold power. They can do want they want with impunity.
This is a low-key hit piece on one of the most important men in history.
Street lights make it a million times worse to see the stars.
I grew up on a Hebridean island that didn't have a single street, never mind a street light. We used parafin lamps to see outside at night. Where I am now the nearest streets (of a village) are a mile away but the light from them reduces what can be seen above us by quite a lot.
Only BBC could report something like this
I am disappointed with Elon Musk. Instead of using his power to help those in need, he is supporting political struggles in other countries. He has the money and power to make peace happen, but he is ignoring it.
Why would he care about you hes a billionaire its human nature to do what you think is best for you just like a human who strives for a job promotion because they can being a billionaire dosent change that people care more about their own ambitions then the sake of others especially billionaires
if you look at him a bit more closely, he's more a conservative man. especially his tweét
So do you think Elon's money and power makes a difference on the very long run? You are depending on Elon Musk alone? But are you also aware that billionaires also donate their money to the needy and charities, but did it affect you? Did it affect the people here?
From the inception of Starlink I said these small satellites would create issues. How Starlink was granted permission to pollute lower orbit with thousands of small satellites is beyond me.
Elon Musk can't stand the idea of people looking at anything else but him...
where did you get that idea from?
Elon Musk needs to register as a *foreign agent* (FARA) for the work he performed at the behest of the Chinese 🇨🇳 government:
- He helped China to export forced labor, made in China electric cars to other countries.
- He complained all the time, but always praised the Chinese regime.
- He advocated for AI slowdown so that China could catch up.
- He blocked his Starshield satelite service in Taiwan.
- He repeated Chinese lies of the century about independent Taiwan country as a "province of China."
- China has the largest source of rare metals needed to make electric cars plus the talent to do so and the biggest electric car market, obvious place to build them and ship them out until he has a factory in each region.
- When China is buying and making your product you want the country on ur side...duh
- He advocated AI slow down as a direct aim at OPENAI a company he founded and it gave him time to get his own AI company running. Nothing to do with China
- So which country will support his companies more Taiwan or China?? If ur given the choice u would do the same, dont bite the hand that feeds you.
Dude you have to realise hes playing a political game with China and cant afford to be against China. You talk about Elon but how many countries are influenced by China to avoid taiwan products and trade. WAKE up man
@@fillyourcoffers1281Both are false!
He's becoming an 'untouchable'. He's the only de facto access into earth orbit the US has.
He's also helping Russia in Ukraine. I can't see him as anything more than anti-American foreign asset
@@DjrodwCan you debunk it, you nobrain?
Does that mean we won’t be able to see Santa clause flying in the sky too?
By American standards might be a terrorist.
Well then build an external space radio telescope ?
Might work much better than earth based systems?
Elon Musk trying not to ruin something: impossible
He sure did a great job ruining Twitter. Revenues down 84% since he took over. He uses it as a personal fiefdom. It sounds ruined to me.
He's like Trump. A weird silver spoon bigoted grifter that never really grew up. If he didnt have insanely rich parents he'd be selling fake watches in times square cussin out old ladies
@@davids1inwestholl45 oh no he let people who dont agree with you speak and your upset about it. what a shame
@@sproutickler because you agree with unlimited right wing hate speech. Got it.
@@sproutickler I think you mean "you're upset", because I don't own upset. How does "your upset" work with you?
Anyway, I RARELY ever use twitter. He's manipulated it so everyone gets almost every message he sends. Most negative msgs to him get buried so he never sees them. And yes, when I see the most powerful, wealthy private citizen in the world spew trump talking points word-for-word, who promises $45M per mo in dark money (untraceable) 'campaign donations', & then trump turns around & announces EM will be one of his top advisors, & he'll want EM to eliminate the 2.5 Million selective service employees (non-political employees) & replace them w/ political hacks, I mean hires, like what he bragged to trump when his auto workers wanted to unionize or else they'd strike. He fired them all. Their conversation was on a taped recording of the call. Trump said he wants to clean out the FBI, the IRS, the DoJ, the DoD, and appoint only MAGA faithful.
Trump wrote this past week he wants EM to recommend directors for NIH, CDC, FDA. Medicare/Medicaid directors, their IG.
EM has become the only company that can transport anything the US requires into space. That's called an unregulated monopoly. He's only accountable to no one but the FAA...for flight permits!
This is not how a democratic republic is supposed to run. But I have to wonder, if you were a shareholder in X, & it lost 84% of its revenue, & EM's response was (on national TV), "Go fuck yourselves...Go fuck yourselves...Go...fuck...your...selves." Does that sound stable & steady enough to be the trump whisperer to your future president?? Really?
Who is up for taking a space shuttle and then we sit and protest in the path of starlink? Who is with me? ✊
Thats okay. He'll sell them a space telescope and the ride above his space trash. Problem + solution = Profit!
the JWST cost $10 Billion (USD). It was estimated to cost $1Billion (NASA).
It was estimated to launch in 2007. It launched Christmas day, 2021.
Google the Kessler Syndrome or Kessler effect. It explains how we could lose all access to manned exploration above 100,000 feet. No Moon, no Mars, no Space Station, no manned launch into or pass thru orbit. This can last decades, perhaps even centuries. There are 7,000 to 10,000 (working/non-working/parked) stationary satellites (22,000 miles) that will never 'fall to Earth'. So from 65 miles to 22,000 miles, there can be a cloud of debris in orbit too dense to pass through or remain in orbit without getting hit.
*sniff *sniff... smells like POLITICAL BULLSHIT...
Thats not Freedom that's Tyranny.
@@Djrodw You probably just need a shower.
Don't we have enough space pics by now anyway?
No, even if you're bot counting research, for some of us astrophotography is a therapeutic hobby and I myself struggle to remove satellite trails from my images and it's getting worse every year.
@@niharpattnaik9662 Ground-based tellies are becoming obsolete tho
How long before Musk tweets that the earth is flat? I bet less than 6 months.
Unlikely❤😅
This actor musk on the world stage, knows the earth is flat, he don't tell you this, he's a freemason, the whole world is run by freemasonry, they own this puppet, the people who print money have the most, the bankers, it's s shame that the world is occupied by most people with no brain and no common sense. we all live under a dome, a firmament, and in case you want more, ask freemasonic Google what is the firmament, they even tell you. The world is one big stage of actors and liars, the news is all lies, that's how you know this character musk, through the screen
I'm more worried about all the old junk floating around earth and the fact that it could come crashing down anytime.....
When they deorbit, they turn into ash. they are too small those starlink satellites.
How was this allowed? To cover our Earth unnecessarily with all that junk when we're doing just fine with land tech.
Greed.
Lol
it's called emissions and immunities. They could have ensured that shiz had to meet certain standards before they deployed it. But, its space and they rushed it.
I have Starlink internet and they’ll have to kill me to take it away. That’s how much I love it.
Love how you provided a link to the "great piece online" 🙈🙈
The starship will allow them to send telescopes of sizes never heard of before at costs so low astronomers will wonder how they ever lived before this
In 1990, the JWST was estimated to cost $1Billion, and it would launch by 2007. Building started in 1996. It ended up costing $10 Billion, & launched Christmas day, 2021. Will HE pay for the $20B the next one could cost, since his stuff will be ruining the 10's of Billions these earth bound satellites cost (some aren't even finished yet)?
@@davids1inwestholl45 yes you are right! I love the BBC and truth, always the best reporting
Out of curiosity, how big do you think radio telescopes are?
@@chrisbenson6753 Around 100m for most, matching the Orion space radio telescopes at "at least 100m folded out", and those were sent with cave men rockets. Unfortunately they're pointed at the earth.
Aside from that I am seeing that space based telescopes have other advantages like not having to hold their own weight eliminating most of the material. And ability to position them at arbitrary distances from each other in any configuration to make any size and characteristic virtual combined telescope.
That's what's been achieved so far, The future may also hold space telescopes constructed in space or on the moon that self propel upwards, with no size limits.
There's absolutely no way in which enormous advancements in space technology won't allow us to study space far far better
@@chrisbenson6753 Well, that depends. The Atacama Desert has the ALMA Observatory w/ 66 independent dishes that can fan out to a max of 16k, or tight, at 150m between.
South Africa has the Square Kilometer Array (SKA) which is 9,000m^2 or 97,000sq.ft., 64 dishes from MeerKAT, one of the precursors to SKA. One of the most advanced radio telescopes in the ATNF in Australia. Eventually, soon, the S.Africa SKA will be 197 dishes and Australia CSIRO w/ 130,000 'christmas tree' antennas will be merged & operated out of Australia. This collab will be the largest, most advanced collection of radio telescopes.
I'm wondering if it's a trick question & you want the World-wide Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) from 2017? That's technically the biggest.
Regardless, what I was referring to was the optical telescopes, such as ESO's VLT, on Cerro Paranal. It cost 300 million Euros in the 90's. Today, it would cost +500 billion euros (w/ inflation). I've seen images w/ dozens & dozens of diagonal lines across their images. Another is the ELT & we'll be lucky if it's built for at least 2 billion Euro & completed by 2028 (or '29, but for sure, '30). I'm even worried about the LSST (Vera Rubin Observatory) to open end of 2025. I can't find the actual budget. It's half a billion here, $57 million there. It's not transparent. But what future will it have w/ 30,000 to 40,000...even 50K satellites in orbit? As I mentioned in my post, in 1 month, there were 55 times where human intervention was required to "re-arrange orbital paths" (avoid possible collisions). And each 'move' increases the odds of having to make future adjustments b/c of the earlier moves. This unregulated, "1st come, grabs all they can" approach ain't gonna work! Every decade they re-evaluate the Kessler modeling, & each decade they predict sooner than the last review, & they find more stuff than they thought was up there. Space-faring countries are going to panic from FOMO, & start hurling what they can up there.
What if an unstoppable cascade occurs? It will be back to the 1940's to 1950's tech. No more manned flight, no LEO, MEO, even GEO could be lost for decades...even centuries. No Moon, no Mars trips. No human spaceflight. And imagine the economic stone-age the world will have. Weather & hurricane forecasting. World banking. I gotta go to bed.
but every livestream of nasa or spacex you dont see any space junk or sattelites orbiting the earth why?
Remember when it comes to Elon the BBC have an agenda.
Of course they are. It's an absolutely ridiculous idea, who even agreed to having thousands of satellites up in space?
Bleating about Elon Musk has become an obsession for the woke left.
"TOLL GATE TO ACCESS THE UNIVERSE BY ENGINEER ELON MUSK!" ❤🇬🇧❤
Elon quickly rising to be the most hated man on the world
No that's Kier Starmer
@@Terry-g9j didnt even know who this was, had no idea the indian dude was replaced
He makes the Indian Guy look like Mother Teresa
This was bound to happen. Science is destroying Science now.
Not content with just ruining everything he touches on planet earth
Exactly like ABCD++ group., everything they touch turns to shit
Well if Space x wasnt doing it then someone else would be, like the chinese or some other company.
Stop Eleon Musk from doing this. Stop him
He’s doing it on purpose, he doesn’t want us to see what’s coming!🤣
*sniff *sniff... smells like POLITICAL BULLSHIT...
What is coming from darkest furthest depths of space?
His mothership. Phone home. 🚲🚲🚲
You can put in regulation on how much shielding etc the devices in satellites need to have. ofc wealthy companies and individuals will want to cheap out on this.
My Internet speed is far more important !
But I can't see the universe now
He's going to build a giant telescope on the dark side of the moon with Starship
That skyscraper next to my house ruined my view long before Elon got into the space
Without radioastronomi, we never got satellite to start with😅
And here I thought it was light and fuel pollution
theyll just say anything to drag elon down
If you're doing a positive news on SpaceX without mentioning Elon Musk, then you should also do the negative news on SpaceX without mentioning Elon Musk.
Why is it necessary to mention Elon Musk at all?
@@Raptorman0909 you should ask the BBC, they're the one having non consistent reporting.
Because he's responsible
Been predicting this for decades, we need limits on how many satellites people can launch into orbit, obviously "unlimited satellites" would be disastrous eventually
*sniff *sniff... smells like POLITICAL BULLSHIT...
@@Djrodw Well clearly your smell sensors are off, that was common sense, nothing political lol
At some point in the future it will be extremely difficult to launch new satellites into orbit without collisions. This is a also the case for human space flight. So, no its not just a theoretical issue. Do a search on "space debris" to get an idea the volume of high speed junk spinning around the globe. This is not an Elon only issue. Starlink is low orbit and most space junk is far higher.
Time to go to space, already can't stand everyone's constant misery and moaning even though we have it easier than anyone's ever had it before us.
Stop moainng about the moaning then?
The sooner Musk is rocketed off to Mars, the better!
@@publics.public no
Am I the only one distracted by that gorgeous Italian accent?
He bought Twitter so he could train his AI without being interrupted.
The sooner Musk is rocketed off to Mars, the better!
where did you get that idea from?
Priorities - research is important in the times today.
Air shouldn't be free for him he needs taxed out of my life
It could have done with a more in depth report really
The orbit that Elon's satellites which measure less than 5 metres follow covers an area more than the entire ocean and continents cover on earth, yet people complain about space pollution lol .
See that's why you didn't graduate from Highschool 😢, shame you haven't learned to shut up and actually think and understand what your peers are saying and try to understand that obviously they're true.
@@benbarberian1701 look up at the sky and reply
@@lastrival1315 Again? Still I urge you to complete a high school diploma, then attend a decent university in which you should take Astronomy 101, then you'll have some idea how the things work in scientific astronomical observatory, your eyeballs are sadly not an astronomical observatory.
@@benbarberian1701 my my which era do you live in ? Ground based observation ? Seriously ?? This makes me really doubt you whether you have completed highschool or not, ever heard of the term atmospheric REFRACTION ? ever heard of James Webb at L2 , or Hubble atleast ?? And did you ever try to know the reason why they are kept so far up in the space ?? Now don’t tell me Elon’s satellites are even blocking up those telescopes too lol.
@@lastrival1315 See this is the reason I'm telling you to complete highschool diploma, radio waves don't suffer refraction or attenuation from atmosphere, so it's the only wavelength spectrum which can be observed unhindered, I think policy makers are also as dumb or illiterate as you, that's why they're unconcerned.
*YEAH BUT BE REASONABLE - ELON NEEDS TO GET RICHER...!!!* he HAS to make a profit even if it ends scientific astronomy - surely that's a small price to pay to make the richest man on earth even richer...?
Bull. If he supported someone else there would be no issue.
Observation from earth is problematic on many fronts, the future is moonbase observation, we should have been there already.
The scientific community JUST realized this was going to be an issue? Other countries are doing their own version of starlink constellations . How did this not occur to some of the smartest scientists in the world ? Good grief! 😂
It’s been known for years………
it's been a big concern since elon musk said he was going to put thousands of satellites into low earth orbit. you can search and find all the comments about it. you just saw this today, doesn't mean it's an issue now and they couldn't predict it.
They've been warning about this right from the beginning. It goes to show how weak the political lobby of astronomy is.
I have hear of this at least 5 years ago if not more. They did not JUST realized that now.
No, you just heard about it.
Yep. We tried enjoying the countriside and the stars. Far too many satelites it alarming!!
*sniff *sniff... smells like POLITICAL BULLSHIT...
@@Djrodw nah. That's you're breath you idiot. Not everything has to be political. Go and bot somewhere else you tool
@@Djrodw I have no beef with you but you keep posting the same comment over and over again a bit lit a dumb bot.
@@rabunbike its true tho
Calling bullshi1t on BBC and this BS story.
It's just a quick hit piece because they don't like Elon. The BBC is pathetic.
Unfortuently Satellites are more important to us on earth day to day than looking at distance stars so I think it's on the scientific community to work around them. About time we had telescopes all over the moon tbh.
Support trump and the few corrupt media starts attacking him
Convicted felons and sexual predators don’t block satellite signals but he is ELONS new bottom boy after Putin and North Korea.
Mommmm, Elon's blocking my view of the Universe again!!!!!
When the first skyscrapers were built, there was certainly someone who complained that the building blocked their view of the sun.
Perfect analogy, brillant, exactely the same implications for science. Proof is, we haven't been able to study the sun since that time because of buildings.
Guy is even becoming a PITA retroactively.
Space trash, get it out of orbit
Musk actually *is* low-orbit trash.
*sniff *sniff... smells like POLITICAL BULLSHIT...
The radio emissions aren’t just bad for the science project but possibly for the human body too…?
BBC this is stinking old news! Such complaints were already raised in the 20th century! Why only Musk satellittes?
In the 20th century, they didn't have the starlink up and running.
@@Garth-e3b I strongly suggest you read up on commercial satellite history covering the second half of last century. Elon Musk is not the first!
@@bingeltube that are gonna do anything to drag elon down
they could aproach him and request that he puts radio telescopes in space at a higher orbit then the starlink satalites to compensate at his cost of course. he does have the facilities to do so
what a load of bull you have to be gullible to believe this
Ok MAster mind.
More space telescopes please
Nobody cares about the universe until someone tries to provide internet to the entire planet. If you ask him nicely, he may just employ a starship to place a telescope on the Moon or in deep space once it is fully operational. Until then, the aliens will have to go unnoticed.
I asked him nicely.. he said no 😭
@deanosaur808 What a jerk!
Hopefully there's no near earth asteroids on course.
Errrrrrr The starlink project is a US Government contract . Elon Musk is the contractor not owner of the project .
Wrong.
Starlink is owned by SpaceX.
incorrect. the US PAYS EM for starlink access to a unique constellation exclusively for the US DoD.
Yeah, but, it's Elons ego that's blocking the universe 😂
If the last few years have taught us anything.. it’s the media can be trusted.