Khadgar: "The Burning Legion has returned." *Five minutes later* Varian: "My son, a terrible darkness has returned to our world." Anduin: "Well, yeah... I was standing right next to you when Khadgar told you 5 minutes ago."
lets be honest, the vast majority of you visit Varian's grave in game more often than you visit your grandfather/grandmother/other relative graves in real life
Anybody else think when Gul'dan asked "Why do you fight?" That the proper response would have been, "To protect home, and family. To preserve balance, and bring harmony. For our kind, the true question is: What is worth fighting for?"
"Know this you can call me deceiver, but I never once lie to you not even once." This is why Kil'Jaeden is a great deceiver. He played a little mind trick to Gul'dan.
i actually disagree. If this was just another of Kiljadens mind trick to open the portal he would likely discard gul'dan inmidiantly yet one could argue that he still had plans for him. BUT for a mind trick/plan he left a lot to chance, if Maiev hadnt change her mind and assisted Khadgard and if their team work wasnt so effective Gul'dan wouldnt have changed his mind. And trick or not he fufilled his end of the bargain while Gul'dan serves Kill'jaden and higher demons like Tichondrius have an eye on him at the same time he is seing commanding demons. Betwen the fact that a lot was left on to chance to be a great trick and the fact Khadgar and Maiev (ironically) did more to change Gul'dan mind i dont give this one to the deceiver
BioMatic2 I don't think you got it. Kil'jaeden planted a seed of doubt in Gul'dans mind when he told him what would happen if he didn't cooperate. It was most likely a bluff, since the Legion went to great lenghts to get Gul'dan to were he was just so they could find a way into Azeroth, I doubt that they would have ever been able to punish him like last time. Seeing Khadgar and Maiev fight back only confirmed the doubt Kil'jaeden had planted in his mind. Even if they hadn't fought back at that moment, Gul'dan would have met coordinated resistance eventually. And in that moment, he would have the same realization and would go back to open the portal.
Gabriel Dasaro i can see that but i dont agree with it. Kil'jaden has been shown very desperate and not in full control of the situation during the whole audio drama. He hadnt planed for gul'dan to get that power but Khadgar force him to take that risk knowing that Gul'dan could betray him, i think is the same case with Gul'dan change of mind Yes, maybe Gul'dan would have changed his mind when offer resistance but what garanty had Kil'jaden that he would be able go back to the tomb? I think that it was key that Gul'dan opened the portal in that very moment and that was out of Kill'jaden hands Also kill'jaden words were more directed to Gul'dan being a fool for beliving that he was above the legions power and that even if had his pity revenge against the mortals of azeroth the legion would end him eventually. But Gul'dan change his mind out of fear those mortal wich wasnt Kill'jadens point The only thing that was similar on Kill'jadens word and Gul'dans dilema was the fact the both indicated the he would die alone but for diferent reasons.
BioMatic2 He would go back to the Tomb and open the portal the moment he realized he could not stand against the whole of Azeroth alone. There would be nothing else for him to do in that situation. If Kil'jaeden hadn't planted that doubt, I don't think Gul'dan would have had those second thoughts. He was too drunk with power to even think about that.
You know Nobbel, I'm curious wether or not you might go over the cataclysm lore of the zones of Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor at any point. I know it would be a massive undertaking on your part but I'd really like to see it. Partially because it is so much lore to cover and slowly going through these questing zones on your own trying to absorb the lore is a bit daunting and exhausting. For a non selfish reason, I'm certain I would miss and or forget key lore points along the way and fail to get a full grasp of what has changed in each region regardless. Anyway, that's just something I thought I would put out there for your lore video series. I'm looking forward to your coverage of legion as the expansion continues to unfold!
The power of a Guardian? The power of fel magic? The power contained in the Tomb of Sargeras? No, Gul'dan has gained the greatest power of all: The Power of Friendship. ... Friendship with demons, but it still counts.
This, and the video before this one are fantastic. Can see you clearly put a lot of effort into making but also editing your videos, and it's thoroughly appreciated. Thanks very much I learnt lots more than i expected to from these!
I'm glad to see that your channel growth so much. I'm watching your videos for quite a while, i am an old subscriber and i still enjoying them now. You are a great story teller, you have a calm voice and you bring interesting lore content, I see the work that you put in every video, you are very accurate and well informed. Keep up the good work, cheers from Romania.
There are 2 things that bothered me in the pre-Legion lore. - The book Illidan told a very different (and I think better) story of what happened to Illidan's demon hunters. In the book, the demon hunters were sent on a mission to Argus (probably to kill Kil'jaeden but lets be honest that's gonna fail) while Illidan held the portal open for them, but was captured in the raid fight before they returned, meaning the demon hunters spent the last few years stranded on Argus. A return from Argus would have been a goddamn amazing plot device to reintroduce demon hunters as a class. Also explains why they're such a high level. If they left Outland at lvl 70, 4 years on Argus will be enough to ding 100. :P - Maiev so very easily released the demon hunters. Her entire character is founded on the premise that she is too blinded by hatred to consider the "greater good". She hunts Illidan (and his kin) despite their claims that they oppose the Legion. To Maiev these are just demon lies and the demon hunters would turn on Azeroth at the first chance. I would have preferred to see Khadgar argue with Maiev about it, either eventually convincing her to release them, or releasing them himself behind her back during the assault on the Vault. Imagine the fantastic story arc this would spark! Maiev would be forced to confront what she hates and fight alongside demon hunters - a choice thrust upon her against her will!
I love your voice and way of storytelling! Everytime when I watch your lore videos I feel like an 5 year old child in bed who is listening to his dad who is reading him epic bedtime stories. :D
You are the best Narrator hands down. I fire your videos up and take a long shower and melt into the world of warcraft in which case i then get yelled at by my wife why I used all the hot water. lol. Has Blizzard ever contacted you for a job? Thank you as always.
The audio book was just terrible. It's like they pulled some old homeless man from the streets to narrate the story. They should've hired Nobbel for that.
Did you watch the video? He practically made a movie out of the book. I really enjoyed that. Also: I liked the audio book narrator. He/they did a good job with the voices.
Wait, what? Huh. I never thought about people only reading the books and stuff but not ever playing the game. An interesting take on the whole story, for sure. Makes me wish I had just started playing again with everything so new.
Yes, I am sure Nobbel already done the broken shore in-game, he made a video about the cinematic on broken store. as for Lore video telling about the expansion, he will do it he already done all story in Mist of pandaria and warlord of draenor, per zone, legendary questlines, etc. He also already done a lot of Legion BETA lore video, though it's BETA and once the Legion release he will re-do everything and made a proper Lore video as usual.
Hi Nobbel, great video! I do want to bring to attention that your CC has been messed up for the past few videos to the point where they don't continue and then rapid-fire them off just to catch up. I'm not sure if it's on my end or yours, but I thought you'd like to know for the fans that are hard of hearing.
I think he first went to Karazhan learned the lesson "No one man can defeat the Legion" and then went around the world seeking help and forging Alliances. It just makes more sense for me
Sulayman Haq I even forgot a bunch Such has Ramkahen people Walrus people Defias rogues Yaungol (or whatever) Scourge (tirion could have asked Bolvar for some help...
Nobbel It says on the WoWWiki Guardian of Tirisfal that only 1 guardian can exist at a time. So if Khadgar could become the Guardian does this mean that Me'dan is no longer canon or do you think it was just a slip?
Medan was retconned, thank god though. He was a terribly written Unicorn that could defeat the legion with a single sparkle of his rainbow spewing horn.
I have a speculation, Me'dan is canon, he gave the mantle of guardianship to Khadgar, he refused, Me'dan still gave Aitesh... Me'dan went to Argus to fight alongside with the defenders of light there with his rainbow spewing horns 😂✌️😁
Nicole Cement He only appeared in the comics, not even a mention somewhere else. Khadgar has Atiesh and there is talk about Medivh being the last Guardian. Also appearently people thought that the child of Medivh and Garona was a little weird, so he isnt announced retconned iirc but Blizzard pretends it never happened, which is nice.
Sadly, in the lore, resurrection is near impossible, and is a power really only posessed by the Val'kyr or great necromancers like Ner'zhul, so unless Bolvar brings Varian back as an undead I dont think he'll be returning. At least, that's what I know from my years of experiencing Warcraft's lore. I may not be right, but I am pretty sure I'm right for the most partm
So, I don't know if you noticed or not yet but they changed the entrance to Crypt that is behind Karazhan. With the release of the information that we will be going into Karazhan again, is there any lore that is currently known that tells us what Crypt as to do with the Legion coming back? I'm not sure how much lore there is out there of that place but if there is, I'd love to see a video about it! I wanna know what the Legion is going to use this place for.
Khadgar went to Karazhan first seeking power, but realized that only a united Azeroth can stand against the Legion so he went to Stormwind to warn the Alliance.
10:50 was basically the first trailer ish thing for the next expansion, "The Burning Legion has Returned", and i'm sitting here like... they just fucking left, well just left Draenor at least but one would assume that they would be licking there wounds for a little longer, was hoping the "Dark Below" idea would come about with this expansion comming with regards to the Naga and the giant squid thing N'zoth which may have involved elements of the Emerald Nightmare being his little creation... but, it seems there folding this all into the same expansion. My theory is that it may be something similar to WotLK where old Yog'Sarron became a major player as Bran comes running into the room in a little bit of a panic. Perhaps either Azshara maybe, or N'zoth will come into the picture in a future patch. The inclusion of Magni back into the story as a direct land line to the titan within Azeroth may suggest a distress or maybe she just wants a chat, but the purpose of the Old Gods being to infect known titan "egg" worlds could suggest that N'zoth could be part of this expansion being the only major player of the Void Lords left to stop this particular titan. The only reluctance of Bliz doing this is running short of future content, but, it would make sense for this particular theory, question is, where do you go post this expansion, possibly Jaina/Sylvannas/Bolvar, some kind of internal Azeroth conflict before once again taking the fight into space with the looming idea of the void lords and fighting those purple divine beings with swords and axes because video game logic, or Anduin makes them vulnerable and we still attack them with solid weaponary, maybe they become etheral weapons... Point it I think N'zoth is on the horizon, or at least under it
This may be off topic of the video but I would like to know how powerful Wilfred Fizzlebang was to summon a demon whom is an unwilling Jaraxxus, Eredar lord of the burning legion when even in the warlock artifact quest it is required of multiple "powerful" warlocks to summon an Doomlord
Hey Nobbel, do you think Med'an will make an appearance in Legion? It would add some story about how Khadgar got Atiesh and Khadgar's feelings about the Guardian. Thanks again for the great video! Cheers :D
I still don't get it. Khadgar is wielding the weapon of the guardian, he stands in the tower of the guardian in Dalaran and he acts like the guardan. But in harbingers he is like "the world doesn't need a guardian"
Hello Nobbel,sorry if i'm disturbing you but could you make a video about the war of the shifting sands,staghelm's fall,and the opening of the AQ gates?Thanks.
I have an idea about what the next expansion is after Legion... World of Warcraft: Into the Void. Illidan was told he needs to fight a powerful being more powerful than Sargeras. We get new races in Ethereals and some other race and we help an Illidan who doesn't wield the light but is a warrior for the light.
"There is only one way to pick up Gul'dan's trail. I must find the traps he must have set for me, fall for every one of them, and continue finding traps and falling for them until they lead me straight to Gul'dan" This is absolutely, 100% a plan that Khadgar would follow.
Nobbel, if you would be so kind as to answer, this has been bugging me ever since I saw the new Broken Shore cinematics: Do you know why the Forsaken in the 'Sylvanas and Vol'jin' cinematic had green glowing eyes? I chalked it off as either a mistake or the abandoning of lore, but it would be interesting if we could choose the color of the eyes in order to roleplay as being resurrected by different magics. Thank you!
Nobbel, how do you manage your alts? You always seem to identify with the paladin toon---are you just naturally drawn to that toon? I have a hard time managing all of my toons, and am wondering how you might go about consistently playing or determining your "main".
Hey Nobbel, I'm not sure if you've covered it or not, but there's a very large chance we'll see an Old God in Legion. Specifically N'Zoth. I've spent a while looking into it. If it wasn't too early to tell I'd say it's guaranteed.
Hey Nobbel! (SPOILERS) Honestly I believe that the cinematic showing Khadgar talking to the Spirit of Medivh happens after the questline where you help Khadgar in Kharazan for information on the pillars of creation. He says he's got some stuff to do in Kharazan still and I guess that's when he talks to Medivh about a guardian. In the questline he says he hasn't been in Kharazan for a while, so it would be strange if he met the spirit of Medivh before that.
Any thoughts on why the legion are after karazhan? They already have the gateway at the tomb, so surely it has to be something to do with the guardian/powers? I know the guardian powers are channeled in to the guardian by the council, but is it possible that they could re-create the guardian powers into a legion servant - was the forge of the guardian destroyed? Another thought - Moroes seemed to be helping the legion get into Karazhan. Is it possible that Medivh was so corrupted that his soul went to the twisting nether after he died....I know its been around 40 years since his death, but what if he needed a powerful host to maintain that power, would explain why they need khadgar
So, if Old Gods infect worlds does that give us the confirmation on why we see OLd God crap in Outlands/Draenor our version? I know this is a legion video but the comments are most likely to respond if i post on a newer vid
Hello nobbel. I had a suggestion that might make a cool video, or it might not. I've noticed on the live servers, if you go to your appearances, then go to filter, then to sources, and click uncheck all, you get items that show up that have no real place to go in the selections. Meaning these are items that are no longer in game. For example, I am able to use the old Whirlwind weapons from an old warrior quest line no longer in game. Maybe you have some old items that are no longer in game and maybe you could tell us the stories behind them? It was just an idea.
My theory is that these were the seals made by the Nightborn/Highborn to lock the gate so it couldn't open. I think I read about that in the Chronicles 1 book.
Nobble please explain to me what was Tirion doing ALONE on the broken shore in the pre patch scenario? He just when full rambo mode in and then died.. wtf? Ore at least so was it presented on the Horde side Thanks
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Khadgar: "The Burning Legion has returned."
*Five minutes later*
Varian: "My son, a terrible darkness has returned to our world."
Anduin: "Well, yeah... I was standing right next to you when Khadgar told you 5 minutes ago."
rofltruffle
lets be honest, the vast majority of you visit Varian's grave in game more often than you visit your grandfather/grandmother/other relative graves in real life
Khadgars dumb faces and poses match him so perfectly.
He is a pretty shit wizard, after all
STLU yo ass ho notice
This shows why Kadgar is one to be respected... He thrived where all had failed...
Still a shitty wizard.
better then Jaina the worst WoW character ever now
Dont blame here, she is constantly on her period, obviously. Maybe its a spell that backfired.
Jaina is awesome. She's the only character who doesn't put up with the Horde's bullshit.
what bullshit lol it was all garrosh you tool
"Why do you fight?" Why is there not a freakin Pandaran that moment DAMN
Like dude come on I've said this
"To protect home and family. To preserve balance and bring harmony. The real question is: what is worth fighting for" (Pandaria theme play)
"Arcane elementals can be terribly literal" was my favorite line of that story lol
Anybody else think when Gul'dan asked "Why do you fight?" That the proper response would have been, "To protect home, and family. To preserve balance, and bring harmony. For our kind, the true question is: What is worth fighting for?"
I love that.
Yes, except that Chen wasn't there lol.
"Know this you can call me deceiver, but I never once lie to you not even once."
This is why Kil'Jaeden is a great deceiver. He played a little mind trick to Gul'dan.
He played Gul'dan like a fiddle in that argument. They don't call him deceiver for nothing.
i actually disagree.
If this was just another of Kiljadens mind trick to open the portal he would likely discard gul'dan inmidiantly yet one could argue that he still had plans for him.
BUT for a mind trick/plan he left a lot to chance, if Maiev hadnt change her mind and assisted Khadgard and if their team work wasnt so effective Gul'dan wouldnt have changed his mind.
And trick or not he fufilled his end of the bargain while Gul'dan serves Kill'jaden and higher demons like Tichondrius have an eye on him at the same time he is seing commanding demons.
Betwen the fact that a lot was left on to chance to be a great trick and the fact Khadgar and Maiev (ironically) did more to change Gul'dan mind i dont give this one to the deceiver
BioMatic2 I don't think you got it. Kil'jaeden planted a seed of doubt in Gul'dans mind when he told him what would happen if he didn't cooperate. It was most likely a bluff, since the Legion went to great lenghts to get Gul'dan to were he was just so they could find a way into Azeroth, I doubt that they would have ever been able to punish him like last time.
Seeing Khadgar and Maiev fight back only confirmed the doubt Kil'jaeden had planted in his mind. Even if they hadn't fought back at that moment, Gul'dan would have met coordinated resistance eventually. And in that moment, he would have the same realization and would go back to open the portal.
Gabriel Dasaro i can see that but i dont agree with it. Kil'jaden has been shown very desperate and not in full control of the situation during the whole audio drama.
He hadnt planed for gul'dan to get that power but Khadgar force him to take that risk knowing that Gul'dan could betray him, i think is the same case with Gul'dan change of mind
Yes, maybe Gul'dan would have changed his mind when offer resistance but what garanty had Kil'jaden that he would be able go back to the tomb?
I think that it was key that Gul'dan opened the portal in that very moment and that was out of Kill'jaden hands
Also kill'jaden words were more directed to Gul'dan being a fool for beliving that he was above the legions power and that even if had his pity revenge against the mortals of azeroth the legion would end him eventually. But Gul'dan change his mind out of fear those mortal wich wasnt Kill'jadens point
The only thing that was similar on Kill'jadens word and Gul'dans dilema was the fact the both indicated the he would die alone but for diferent reasons.
BioMatic2 He would go back to the Tomb and open the portal the moment he realized he could not stand against the whole of Azeroth alone. There would be nothing else for him to do in that situation.
If Kil'jaeden hadn't planted that doubt, I don't think Gul'dan would have had those second thoughts. He was too drunk with power to even think about that.
We dont need 1 Guy we need exactly 10 or 25 people
Horde excluded ofc.
Or between 10 and 30 really, unless you're going hardcore, then 20.
Twenty good men. Now where have I heard that before?
I truly hope that they will give us a 40man version of all raids.
You know Nobbel, I'm curious wether or not you might go over the cataclysm lore of the zones of Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor at any point. I know it would be a massive undertaking on your part but I'd really like to see it. Partially because it is so much lore to cover and slowly going through these questing zones on your own trying to absorb the lore is a bit daunting and exhausting. For a non selfish reason, I'm certain I would miss and or forget key lore points along the way and fail to get a full grasp of what has changed in each region regardless.
Anyway, that's just something I thought I would put out there for your lore video series. I'm looking forward to your coverage of legion as the expansion continues to unfold!
Grats on 420k Subs Nobbel.
We know what he'll be doing now. Nobbel the High as a Kite Noble.
Dank
+Archmage Singularity Rex The best thing is, he's Dutch.
First harambe now varian. Biblethump
heh twitch memes
+murrsmurr Listen dumbass memes are not limited to twitch
***** they make me want to hang myself
The Harambe meme is all over the internet not just Twitch.
lol Twitch... Are you 10? Twitch is not the MEME generator you think it Is... Pleb.
The power of a Guardian? The power of fel magic? The power contained in the Tomb of Sargeras? No, Gul'dan has gained the greatest power of all:
The Power of Friendship.
... Friendship with demons, but it still counts.
This, and the video before this one are fantastic. Can see you clearly put a lot of effort into making but also editing your videos, and it's thoroughly appreciated. Thanks very much I learnt lots more than i expected to from these!
The Khadgar short was the best of them all, both from a story and art perspective.
I'm glad to see that your channel growth so much. I'm watching your videos for quite a while, i am an old subscriber and i still enjoying them now. You are a great story teller, you have a calm voice and you bring interesting lore content, I see the work that you put in every video, you are very accurate and well informed. Keep up the good work, cheers from Romania.
I love you, Nobbel. Your videos are so awesome and help learn lore in a nice package. Keep up the good work!
One of the best things on this video are those characters kinda "playing" that scenario, absolutely love it
"he rudely slams the door on his griffon" cracked me up haha
Khadgar is actually really cool I'm glad they're making him such a central character in game
There are 2 things that bothered me in the pre-Legion lore.
- The book Illidan told a very different (and I think better) story of what happened to Illidan's demon hunters. In the book, the demon hunters were sent on a mission to Argus (probably to kill Kil'jaeden but lets be honest that's gonna fail) while Illidan held the portal open for them, but was captured in the raid fight before they returned, meaning the demon hunters spent the last few years stranded on Argus. A return from Argus would have been a goddamn amazing plot device to reintroduce demon hunters as a class. Also explains why they're such a high level. If they left Outland at lvl 70, 4 years on Argus will be enough to ding 100. :P
- Maiev so very easily released the demon hunters. Her entire character is founded on the premise that she is too blinded by hatred to consider the "greater good". She hunts Illidan (and his kin) despite their claims that they oppose the Legion. To Maiev these are just demon lies and the demon hunters would turn on Azeroth at the first chance. I would have preferred to see Khadgar argue with Maiev about it, either eventually convincing her to release them, or releasing them himself behind her back during the assault on the Vault. Imagine the fantastic story arc this would spark! Maiev would be forced to confront what she hates and fight alongside demon hunters - a choice thrust upon her against her will!
VARIAAAAAAN!!!
is dead deal with it
***** More savage than Draenor.
Deal with it, alliance wussies.
Revenge will be ours friend!
Mr Ducky says "Our King went out as a hero, Vol jin got shanked & died like a bitch. mmmmmhmmm"
I love your voice and way of storytelling! Everytime when I watch your lore videos I feel like an 5 year old child in bed who is listening to his dad who is reading him epic bedtime stories. :D
When I see a nobbel video in my recommendation box
Am so happy
finally subbed to you, been watching your vids for a long time. keep it up!
Nobbel, i like the subtitles, especially during the scene were kil'jarden talks about not deciving gul'dan, but they were very very fast
The image of Kadgar at 1:15 -- our wise and powerful archmage, everybody. "What's goin' on wid dese magical circles, huh?"
You are the best Narrator hands down. I fire your videos up and take a long shower and melt into the world of warcraft in which case i then get yelled at by my wife why I used all the hot water. lol. Has Blizzard ever contacted you for a job? Thank you as always.
Normally Nobbel is great at summarizing large amounts of work into shorter form. But this is basically a book report. Just listen to the audio book.
I was thinking the same thing.. it is just a video about the audio drama. I was looking for some new info, or something along those lines.
The audio book was just terrible. It's like they pulled some old homeless man from the streets to narrate the story. They should've hired Nobbel for that.
Did you watch the video? He practically made a movie out of the book. I really enjoyed that.
Also: I liked the audio book narrator. He/they did a good job with the voices.
No. They got an actually tallented narrator, who doesn't have a shit voice like Nobbel.
In his defense, the books kinda do his job, what else is there for Nobbel to do except this?
0:57 , the latest statue craze, The Buddy Khadgar !
2 minutes out and I'm number 260? YOU'VE GROWN UP NOBBEL!
Will you do a recap once the expansion has been released and played?
i dont play the World of Warcraft but the story is kinda cool.
Wait, what? Huh. I never thought about people only reading the books and stuff but not ever playing the game. An interesting take on the whole story, for sure. Makes me wish I had just started playing again with everything so new.
Yes, I am sure Nobbel already done the broken shore in-game, he made a video about the cinematic on broken store.
as for Lore video telling about the expansion, he will do it
he already done all story in Mist of pandaria and warlord of draenor, per zone, legendary questlines, etc.
He also already done a lot of Legion BETA lore video, though it's BETA and once the Legion release he will re-do everything and made a proper Lore video as usual.
I could listen to you talk for hours
yes thank you nobel i absolutly love your lore vids
It's always too late for someone to realize the most important thing for peace is to be united. I shed a tear
Hi Nobbel, great video! I do want to bring to attention that your CC has been messed up for the past few videos to the point where they don't continue and then rapid-fire them off just to catch up. I'm not sure if it's on my end or yours, but I thought you'd like to know for the fans that are hard of hearing.
I think he first went to Karazhan learned the lesson "No one man can defeat the Legion" and then went around the world seeking help and forging Alliances.
It just makes more sense for me
I just came here to tell you that the face Khadgar makes in the thumbnail for this video is the best WTF face I have ever seen.
"Everything we have"
Except
The dragons
The shadopan
The dwarves
the night elves
Jinyu
Hozen
trolls
Who do not help at all at the broken shore
So true.
Sulayman Haq I even forgot a bunch
Such has
Ramkahen people
Walrus people
Defias rogues
Yaungol (or whatever)
Scourge (tirion could have asked Bolvar for some help...
+Ryan Mahaffey but then there would be no expansion lol just the brokenshore event
Well I mean bolvar did give the DK and other classes artifact weapons, I think :|
Pretty sure lore wise,the demons had ported elsewhere via the invasions thing.Also,even if they did join,the results would still be the same.
Whenever he says "alternate" Guldan. I kept hearing "ultimate" lol...and I was thinking, "is this some new form of Guldan?"
That beam Khadgar shot, only reason why I boosted 50 mage to level 100
Totally worth
Nobbel It says on the WoWWiki Guardian of Tirisfal that only 1 guardian can exist at a time. So if Khadgar could become the Guardian does this mean that Me'dan is no longer canon or do you think it was just a slip?
They cannot make Me'dan actual canon in the game because it would mean the players would no longer be required.
Medan was retconned, thank god though. He was a terribly written Unicorn that could defeat the legion with a single sparkle of his rainbow spewing horn.
I have a speculation, Me'dan is canon, he gave the mantle of guardianship to Khadgar, he refused, Me'dan still gave Aitesh... Me'dan went to Argus to fight alongside with the defenders of light there with his rainbow spewing horns 😂✌️😁
Tasdilan where is your source of this?
Nicole Cement He only appeared in the comics, not even a mention somewhere else. Khadgar has Atiesh and there is talk about Medivh being the last Guardian. Also appearently people thought that the child of Medivh and Garona was a little weird, so he isnt announced retconned iirc but Blizzard pretends it never happened, which is nice.
Love your videos so much! \o/ Legion HYPE!
I feel like youtube comments are slowly becoming trade chat...
They always was trade chat.
+oh im too weak don't kill me please lol
You want to see trade chat in youtube ? Okay [Thunderfury,Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?
Becoming trade chat? You must be new to the TH-cams. ;)
And yes I did say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker].
I love how they got Mediv's original Voice Actor back. I always remember he played as Angelica's dad in Rugrats back in the day.
What?!?!!?!!
I never knew that he played her dad's voice Dx
Dude this expansion!!! BTW this expac seems like it would make a great movie
the Legion only ever plans ahead but never plans for things in their face
is there any chance the king will be resurrected? ANY chance at all? cant believe hes gone...
Sadly, in the lore, resurrection is near impossible, and is a power really only posessed by the Val'kyr or great necromancers like Ner'zhul, so unless Bolvar brings Varian back as an undead I dont think he'll be returning.
At least, that's what I know from my years of experiencing Warcraft's lore. I may not be right, but I am pretty sure I'm right for the most partm
Remember when anduin brought him back though
I actualy think (and hope) that Tirion will be revived by Bolvar
+James Wadland but i think that vol jin might be back (at least i hope so)
+Nasasino his body was burned so i dont think he will be resurrected
So, I don't know if you noticed or not yet but they changed the entrance to Crypt that is behind Karazhan. With the release of the information that we will be going into Karazhan again, is there any lore that is currently known that tells us what Crypt as to do with the Legion coming back? I'm not sure how much lore there is out there of that place but if there is, I'd love to see a video about it! I wanna know what the Legion is going to use this place for.
"He rudely slams the door on his gryphon" hahaha
Khadgar went to Karazhan first seeking power, but realized that only a united Azeroth can stand against the Legion so he went to Stormwind to warn the Alliance.
To me it makes sense for Khadgar's Harbinger episode to happen right after he sent us away to Dalaran during the pre-expansion quest line
10:50 was basically the first trailer ish thing for the next expansion, "The Burning Legion has Returned", and i'm sitting here like... they just fucking left, well just left Draenor at least but one would assume that they would be licking there wounds for a little longer, was hoping the "Dark Below" idea would come about with this expansion comming with regards to the Naga and the giant squid thing N'zoth which may have involved elements of the Emerald Nightmare being his little creation... but, it seems there folding this all into the same expansion. My theory is that it may be something similar to WotLK where old Yog'Sarron became a major player as Bran comes running into the room in a little bit of a panic. Perhaps either Azshara maybe, or N'zoth will come into the picture in a future patch. The inclusion of Magni back into the story as a direct land line to the titan within Azeroth may suggest a distress or maybe she just wants a chat, but the purpose of the Old Gods being to infect known titan "egg" worlds could suggest that N'zoth could be part of this expansion being the only major player of the Void Lords left to stop this particular titan. The only reluctance of Bliz doing this is running short of future content, but, it would make sense for this particular theory, question is, where do you go post this expansion, possibly Jaina/Sylvannas/Bolvar, some kind of internal Azeroth conflict before once again taking the fight into space with the looming idea of the void lords and fighting those purple divine beings with swords and axes because video game logic, or Anduin makes them vulnerable and we still attack them with solid weaponary, maybe they become etheral weapons...
Point it I think N'zoth is on the horizon, or at least under it
This may be off topic of the video but I would like to know how powerful Wilfred Fizzlebang was to summon a demon whom is an unwilling Jaraxxus, Eredar lord of the burning legion when even in the warlock artifact quest it is required of multiple "powerful" warlocks to summon an Doomlord
You should do the lore of all the zones in wow cause your the lore master :D
Hey Nobbel, do you think Med'an will make an appearance in Legion? It would add some story about how Khadgar got Atiesh and Khadgar's feelings about the Guardian. Thanks again for the great video! Cheers :D
I still don't get it. Khadgar is wielding the weapon of the guardian, he stands in the tower of the guardian in Dalaran and he acts like the guardan. But in harbingers he is like "the world doesn't need a guardian"
Hello Nobbel,sorry if i'm disturbing you but could you make a video about the war of the shifting sands,staghelm's fall,and the opening of the AQ gates?Thanks.
early.... but... did someone say? [Thunderfury l, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
DID I HEAR [Thunderfury l, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker] ?????
Nah. Just [Dirge]
[Did Someone Say?]
YES! Haha
Anal dirge
Gratz on 420k subs :D #dixoutforharambe
I have an idea about what the next expansion is after Legion...
World of Warcraft: Into the Void.
Illidan was told he needs to fight a powerful being more powerful than Sargeras. We get new races in Ethereals and some other race and we help an Illidan who doesn't wield the light but is a warrior for the light.
Just HAD to get another swing at that "He rudely slams the door on his gryphon" joke didn't ya?
"There is only one way to pick up Gul'dan's trail. I must find the traps he must have set for me, fall for every one of them, and continue finding traps and falling for them until they lead me straight to Gul'dan"
This is absolutely, 100% a plan that Khadgar would follow.
I love yours - "Hello Everyone" ;)
Legend says nobbel will reply
It's not a legend.
+Dulguun Gantumur because it never happens
he sleeping wait until he wakes up ;)
Sub'd... so good. Who was the dreadlord in Karazhan? I named one from previous lore?
Nobbel, if you would be so kind as to answer, this has been bugging me ever since I saw the new Broken Shore cinematics: Do you know why the Forsaken in the 'Sylvanas and Vol'jin' cinematic had green glowing eyes? I chalked it off as either a mistake or the abandoning of lore, but it would be interesting if we could choose the color of the eyes in order to roleplay as being resurrected by different magics. Thank you!
finally nobbel uploaded
Good to hear Michael Bell reprise his roll as Medivh.
It would be thrilling to see the scourge team up with the alliance of Azeroth
Nobbel, how do you manage your alts? You always seem to identify with the paladin toon---are you just naturally drawn to that toon? I have a hard time managing all of my toons, and am wondering how you might go about consistently playing or determining your "main".
I liked the audio drama. but does anyone else wish they'd gotten the actual VO's?
Great video man
Hey Nobbel, I'm not sure if you've covered it or not, but there's a very large chance we'll see an Old God in Legion. Specifically N'Zoth. I've spent a while looking into it. If it wasn't too early to tell I'd say it's guaranteed.
420'000 sub congrats man
Hey Nobbel! (SPOILERS) Honestly I believe that the cinematic showing Khadgar talking to the Spirit of Medivh happens after the questline where you help Khadgar in Kharazan for information on the pillars of creation. He says he's got some stuff to do in Kharazan still and I guess that's when he talks to Medivh about a guardian. In the questline he says he hasn't been in Kharazan for a while, so it would be strange if he met the spirit of Medivh before that.
Have you ever thought of doing a lore video about what would happen in Warcraft the movie 2?
what's up with the Legion trailer at the end? great vid Btw :)
So Micheal Bell has returned as the voice of Medivh, cool he´s among my favorite voice actors.
You used your khadgar comic audio on this video also nobbel very well transitioned.
o snap illdian, malfurion, and tyrande comeback
Khadgar's desire to retcon Medhan......a easy to understand desire
Please make a video about your thoughts returning to Karazhan in Patch 7.1 :)
Any thoughts on why the legion are after karazhan? They already have the gateway at the tomb, so surely it has to be something to do with the guardian/powers? I know the guardian powers are channeled in to the guardian by the council, but is it possible that they could re-create the guardian powers into a legion servant - was the forge of the guardian destroyed?
Another thought - Moroes seemed to be helping the legion get into Karazhan. Is it possible that Medivh was so corrupted that his soul went to the twisting nether after he died....I know its been around 40 years since his death, but what if he needed a powerful host to maintain that power, would explain why they need khadgar
So, if Old Gods infect worlds does that give us the confirmation on why we see OLd God crap in Outlands/Draenor our version? I know this is a legion video but the comments are most likely to respond if i post on a newer vid
hey nobbel can you talk about the three signs in one of the pamphlets from the doomsayers. ones about magni returning but the other two are weird.
About the arcane runes inside of the tomb: Didn't the Nightborn have something to do with it instead of Aegwynn? Or do I mix something up?
What's the name of the previous video in this series?
can you please update your lore playlists
Untie a knot... of spider web... in the dark... with his toes. that's oddly specific Nobbel.
nobbel,do you have a streaming schedule?
So... Was that letter he wrote to Anduin written with some water-proof paper and pen? xD
Is that the voice of Lor'themar doing the audio book thing ?
Hello nobbel. I had a suggestion that might make a cool video, or it might not. I've noticed on the live servers, if you go to your appearances, then go to filter, then to sources, and click uncheck all, you get items that show up that have no real place to go in the selections. Meaning these are items that are no longer in game. For example, I am able to use the old Whirlwind weapons from an old warrior quest line no longer in game. Maybe you have some old items that are no longer in game and maybe you could tell us the stories behind them? It was just an idea.
My theory is that these were the seals made by the Nightborn/Highborn to lock the gate so it couldn't open. I think I read about that in the Chronicles 1 book.
Is there a video about what happened with Illidan when Gul'dan free him?
UNITED WE STAND. DIVIDED WE FALL.
Khadgar: "No single person is a weapon against the legion alone."
Khadgar proceeds to disintegrate a dreadlord in one blast.
"No single person..."
Legion= One dreadlord
thought on return to karazahn cinematic?>
6:00 so ice block is invincible? nothing new xD
Nobble please explain to me what was Tirion doing ALONE on the broken shore in the pre patch scenario?
He just when full rambo mode in and then died.. wtf? Ore at least so was it presented on the Horde side
Thanks