It's so hard reaching out to the people who need to be reached out to - the people who look at these dogs and say "Well mine would never" and "they're just house hippos". I have an APBT mix, and despite her mix in genetics... she is what she is, and she displays it every time when it matters the most. We've worked very hard for her to be a stable and safe member in our community, and she's a happy fulfilled dog. I've been called a gatekeeper for saying that we can have our dogs in jammies, bowties, glitter and whatnot... that part doesn't matter. What matters is that we know what we have and we act accordingly. If we don't, we lose the privilege... as the UK is now experiencing. Many struggle to understand that it isn't just the tough guy with the uncontrollable bully contributing to this, it's also the well meaning person with a dog that they love that doesn't realise that /love isn't enough/ too.
Absolutely spot on about people who humanise their dogs which has led to a very serious problem. Humanising our dogs creates a sense of complacency in households and frustration in dogs as their needs are not being met appropriately. They are not our human babies they are animals and need to be treated as such.
Exactly since this trend of humanizing dogs began, dog behaviour Issues especially aggression has risen so much, it’s insane. The so called best dog owner today are often the ones with dogs with the best issues and will blame it on everything but them and the changes in the way dogs are trained, so called canine behaviour science which is bias because of its connection to big business
True...must admit, growing up our dogs were left outside and coming inside for an hour or so at night was the version of a treat in the 70s and when they came in they werent allowed to jump around they had to lay down on the floor or they got put back outside, they were show dogs, but they didnt have beds or kennels...these days my dogs get their own bedroom have a human queen size bed, airconditioning and come and go from the house when they please plus have a box of toys which i replenish/update every couple of months...our dogs in the 70s were much better behaved and you only had to train them once and it stuck for there entire life.
You can't just look at aggression and ignore capacity for harm. This is what advocates want to do. They want to say "well lap dogs can be aggressive" and they can but their capacity for harm is greatly minimized by their size, strength, bite force etc. So the restrictions on the breed should match the CAPACITY of the breed to do harm. Owning a revolver or a single shot gun should be treated differently than owning a machine gun. So if you wanted a solution, you would categorize dogs by capacity to do harm and then apply restrictions. So yes, dogs like the Cane Corso or Anatoly Shepherd would fall under heavily restricted dogs as well as the American Pitbull and XL Bully. If you did that, then you don't have to worry about the "next" dog breed of choice. You just say well this new dog has the same capacity for harm as an XL Bully so it falls under that restriction. That would also sidestep the accusations of "doggie racism" and other such nonsense.
Watching the trend of treating pets like children grow over the past two decades has been frustrating as hell. In the states, they've taken to calling themselves "pit mommies" as they bought into the lifestyle so deeply it has become part of their identity.
it should be considered ageism, really. it's putting children and dogs on the same level, which isn't OK. kids deserve better than being compared to dogs.
Sadly it will be mastiffs next if the govt doesn't control breeding, advertising selling and ownership. Calvary managed it and massively reduced dog bite occurrences
I've been around dogs for 40 years. Always understood their genetics, traits, etc, to train and work them. Folk don't seem to do that anymore - they select dogs based on "looks" and don't understand that genetics matter. To get a certain look, they crossbreed them, eg AmBully. Also, see a trend in humanising dogs - they are not nanny dogs or fur babies - popular phrases associated with a 60 to 100lb bully ! that has the capability to kill in the bat of an eyelid - compared to a chihuahua that might require a few stitches. The number of videos I see of kids crawling over bullies to prove a point is alarming.
Chihuahua is usually a very mean very aggressive dog though. American Bully is one of the least prone to aggression according to behavioral studies. Thing is, any large dog can still seriously hurt people if not properly trained, looked after and socialized responsibly. I have seen some very mean and aggressive dangerous labradors.
In todays world I see zero reason for creating a big, powerful monster mutt”. The big dogs are WORKING BREEDS!!! They simply are not made to be anybody’s pet. They aren’t made and given a job they are hardwired for genetically. They just aren’t need in a time with so many shelters…and sadly these dogs can or will end up there.
@@dawnetaverner1382 false. XL bully is bred specifically for good temperament to be a companion breed. It is no more dangerous than a Great Dane, St. Bernard or Mastiff breed. I like a big dog because it is the best kind of lap dog to cuddle with. Being a working breed has nothing to do with size at this point. Within one breed there are different lines too, such as show line, working line, companion line. It’s honestly racist discrimination. People fear Bully breeds in North America and UK because they are popular with non white people. If the Great Dane was popular among black people, then everyone would be talking about how evil it is.
It sickens me that people are so deluded when it comes to XL bullys. They don't understand. They are ticking time bombs. They are mostly pitbulls that are imported sperm from America!
Its kind of common sense that if a breed, not well socialised, bred or trained, is capable of pulling an adult human man to the floor and then mauling them to death over 30mins, then that breed really isnt an ideal pet for the general UK public. Especially not right now with the positive only training trend! When it comes to pits and XL's, I would argue that the dog can appear to be a nice friendly dog and still get triggered due to prey drive and their GENETIC FIGHTING INSTINCTS. Ive seen it happen, the dogs are excited and having a good time throughout the mauling. Prey drive aggression is the most scary, its silent and there is no emotion just pure arousal.
Yes i witnessed this too in my previous husky when he caught and killed my neighbours pet rabbit, the first time you could see he intially didnt know what to do with it but by the time we got it off him his eyes were all glazed and bulging and he was very aroused it took over an hour to calm him down and after that he was constantly fixated on the rabbits and got another a few weeks later. He was only ever this way over things that were a natural food source (rabbits, possums, birds) he was fine with cats, small dogs, children, but huskys were never bred to fight and kill in the first place...however i always found it quite unsettling once id witnessed how catching and killing his own food excited him.
Another dog expert here and I have to say that having the bans on all aversive tools and methods. You need to be able to use all quadrants of dog training. This is ridiculous. I do also see the need for BSL, people just get all kinds of dogs and assume they can love the genetics out of them. You need to understand what you have and take appropriate steps to ensure that dog is not going to be a threat to others. Unfortunately there is no way to control who owns what breeds. That said, this is a slippery slope and I don’t think BSL is ever the answer.
I'm really fed up with so called dog trainers defending and promoting this breed. The XL bully is not a breed fit for purpose full stop. It is mostly Pitbull and is imported sperm from America. This is not like Amy other dog breed. IT WILL FIGHT TO THE DEATH!! Why are you people so naive!?
@@alisonleiper9913 where did you get it is mostly Pitbull in genetics? XL bully is made up from 5 different breeds true pitbulls are small in size and share Staffordshire bull terrier genetics so shall we ban staffys
If the stats are only 7% for both section 1 and section 3 offences, does this not show that bans work? Exempted dogs must wear leads and muzzles so less likley to cause section 3 offences. We see XLs disproportionately cause the most injuries/fatalities it would be interesting to see the stats in 5/10 years
Unfortunately it doesn't show breed bans working. Number of dog attacks on people leading to hospitalisation has consistently risen after the pitbull type ban in the UK, they were not reduced.
Hi all just caught up with the latest podcast. As always so much useful information for those watching and the wider public. Lets hope owners of the type take it onboard and comply with the legislation. G.
The treating them like people comment really rang true for me after seeing people carrying their large breed dogs on escalators and snowy or rain wee ground!! It’s nuts!! Said dog usually is wearing some item of human apparel.
people aslo need to check there behaviour around dogs . As a dog walker I have had so many cases where people have behaved silly around the dogs i walk ie screaming running or pushing one another infront of the dogs to get a reaction out of the dogs to scare there friends.
I understand that these dogs are incredibly strong and have a massive and powerful bite and something needs to be done. My concern is that unless action is taken against the unscrupulous breeders who have been "putting these animals together just to achieve a certain look" will now turn their attention to mixing some other breeds to come up with something equally dangerous. People talk about licensing.. We had dog licenses years ago. It didn't work. It can't be policed. Dogs are legally supposed to be chipped but how many times do we see that the chip hasn't been registered or updated!! I believe in the US the largest number of dog bites are from Labs. Is this because they are the most numerous ? Is their breeding unregulated so that they get mixed, even slightly, or inbred? I hope banning works, however sad it is for caring and responsible owners.. But I just have my doubts!
I known people that select the most aggressive ones and breed them and that's what some people want, they thşnk they will be good guard dogs but they make shit guard dogs...
I find an English and Fench bulldog being more aggressive then any pit or xl bully. Staffy terriers can bite and hold just as hard and long as any bully breed. Banning "breeds" really just leads people to just choosing other breeds, and then people overbreeding those dogs, leading to the same problems.
The XL bully is not recognised by the American Kennel Club. They can be registered with the ABKC or UKC. Totally agree with your sentiment though, its unfair on the dogs to not be honest about what they are capable of.
You’re absolutely right. We’re knowledgeable on behaviour and aim to educate with the goal of helping dog owners and dogs themselves. After a long day of filming these things happen, unfortunately. We’re all human beings and mistakes happen. I’ll post a video correcting myself later this week and bring to light the recent changes in legislation.
Just to say that many years ago (early 80s) I looked after a pit bull and a pekinese whilst their owners were away. The pit is the only dog that has made the hair on the back of my neck stand.. She was pure muscle. You couldn't looknhef in the eye but other than that she was OK. When I took them out for walks the pit was good as gold. The pekinese wanted to start a war with every other dog it saw!!
a video AND a comment section on this topic that ISN'T full of misinfo and has common sense while exploring the nuances? as a fellow dog enthusiast it's refreshing to see bc it's on a daily basis that I see the toxic cesspool of arguments/misinfo pushed on other platforms/forums. This is a very frustrating topic as people have been encouraged to believe all sorts of nonsense from the nanny stuff to "it's all how they're raised/the owner" + breed standards/many proper practices with animals are suddenly evil. The standards for the most part are your blueprint for breeds and deviations from that standard are where the issues start. MOST dogs now are coming from backyard breeders (not ones who are actually properly dedicated to their breeds) mills, and the retail rescues that support them. They certainly don't care to follow ANY standards- thus increases in health/behavior issues + many abandoned dogs. The people who should be listened to aren't; research is not properly done nor easily accessible. Much of it is biased and unclear about how they're actually collecting the data or whether the dogs they analyze are actually well-bred or not. Many might be mislabeled. I've had my experiences with bull breed mutts- the genes are there and its important to respect that. I've seen the nice fun times with one dog (though there were health issues) and an incident that could have resulted in multiple deaths with another.
American bully is the actual breed in America, xl, standard, classic, pocket are all types of the breed due to show competition and the mass mix of what the breed is e.g American staff x pitbull ( original mix which the founder Dave Wilson bred to make a companion breed) the 90’s breeding kennels starting mixing American Bulldog, Old English Bulldog, English Bulldog and mastiff’s to make the dog larger, not to look at temperament, when they done breeding coz they would be bred for look over temperament what the American bully was not bred for in the first place, it was bred to make a large companion breed not to be aggressive.
Great honest discussion, great panel, mix of people. Particularly the trainer that owns a bull breed. This understanding and acceptance of what you have/own when you own a fighting dog breed is what people need to have, but don't. Also they cover all bases the way anyone just throws two dogs together and calls themselves a breeder. We all need to stop buying dogs from these backyard breeders(regardless of breed) so it takes the money out of it. Basically we need t turn back time ti the 70s and 80s when you only bought full pedigree show quality dogs from breeders that bred for quality and temperment and you had a dogs background going back 4 generations. That said, the nature of dogs is still to fight especially with same sex. And as this bull breed owner/trainer says the bull breeds have a completely different fight style, so if you have one and it engages in an attack on another dog or person it is going to do damage or kill what its attacking and unlike other breeds, bull/fighting dog breeds are very hard to stop once engaged in an attack, as they were genetically purpose bred to fight like that. I also dont understand why those that own them dont just do as per what the restrictions require, your dogs are fine if you exercise them regularly and you keep them muzzled. For those of you that want to give them a bit more exercised why dont you start your own little club meet where you meet once a week at your houses and let your dogs interact with eachother? If they are on private propert than can play together without a muzzle ans as long as you walk them for at least an hour a day on lead as well they will be fine. As the owner of an intact male husky this is what i do as i had to give up on the dog park because my dog kept getting attacked by other male off leash dogs.
My Xl's never been aggressive or anything in her behaviour but I am really worried every single time I go out with her now because I have had lots of different small dogs of their leads running up and getting very aggressive towards her and she just sits down but my other friend who has a xl had the same things happen and he had his dog on his lead and the other dog attacked his dog..but that's what I am really worried about happening to my 20 month old xl Envie x
@@TammyN987 Rest assured, non fighting dog breeds do not fight like fighting dog breeds. Ie they preserve their own life so if they bite they will bite and release /jump out of the way, so the owner will have plenty of time to grab their dog before it does any serious damage to your dog. If your dog is muzzled they are also much more likely to be game enough to jump in and grab there dog. Personally, i would make no attempt to grab my dog if he ended up in a fight with a fighting dog breed until the other owner has got hold of his dog...as i know my dog will stop fighting as soon as I grab hold of him (based on past experience).
No one should be surprised that a pit bull terrier x with an americsn stafford bull terrier is dog aggressive. Many breeds of terrier have been used.for dog fighting in past they lack that added tenacity adding bull dog in created and xls are double wammy on both input breed group.
People do have to come first and that's the most important thing regardless of what animal it is. The thing is most dog animals are bred for something and unfortunately as humans, we have forgotten that over the years now what we are left with now is most people buying dogs for family pets and not the original purpose the dog was bred for this is where we have the problem with your small dogs to your big dogs and unless all dogs get proper trained then they can all turn if pushed whether that's another dog that makes the original calm dog afraid and acting out of self defence to later on thinking all dogs or humans are against them. It's proven that a dog can act out of fear or it can also sense that the human is insecure and feel that it needs to protect. The bottom line is a small dogs can have and impact on a another small dogs temperament and this can happen with both big dogs and vice versa. Again the bottom line is humans are the source of the problem the goverment or people who we vote to be in charge are as guilty as the owner for any dog attacks in history people might not want to hear this but we are the source of the dogs teaching and behaviour from a Young age so practically unless you are a trainer and your dog won't leave your side and wonder off to another dog then they should all be on a lead and if its known to bite whether its a small bite or a big one then it should be muzzled and on the lead at all times. No one has the right to condemn a certain breed more then the other breed as we have caused these problems from the beginning and again instead of us all accepting liability we blame a certain breed again if we were all responsible then there would have never been a dog attack in history unless the dog was breed for that reason sadly people have used dogs for many different reasons game hunting and so on man kind is the problem time after time man/women. I love dogs but humans are more important but every dog that has life in it deserves to have the same treatment as every other dog. All dog needs to be properly trained that will be more affective then killing off any breed. Wake up people use money and resources to better equipped owners or make a licence to own any dog and put rules into place that all owners regardless of the breed should follow. And if then the owner doesn't follow them and the dogs out of control to the point its aggressive towards humans or any other dog then sadly put it to sleep and hold the owner responsible under the licence and rules and the consequences of breaking the agreement like a lot of people say there's good people who own xl bullies and then there people who own them for the wrong reasons whats to stop them from getting another type of dog regardless of how big or small it may be under the wrong training that dog can cause fear to any humans and have the potential to hurt an adult or killing a baby. Please somebody who can make a difference put this into the eyes of the government and make a true change as this law isn't even an attempt to take away the harm that dogs can do under the wrong hands its an attempt to pass the blame until the next breed comes along
Funny the 1 channel to try to teach. Yet very few views. Its a sham that people watch the news but lack to lean facts. Dogs do what they no, An what we teach. An the dog is An animal. Any trates in human plants animals. We are to blame but humans tend to pass that along😢
Now they banned cane corso breeding n ownership will go up n they problem will be the same...in my area they're loads wiv inexperienced owners.belgim malinois aswell since John wick.its a shame on the dogs
the dog trainer has got the point and so spot on but the lady is so irritating always acting smart. This is more a problem with dog owners than dogs. If you cannot control a dog, you must not own one. Firstly the ones that must be banned are the owners. there must be dog trainer licensee in order to get a dog. a dog is not your family member. a dog is a dog and if you treat it like one, it will also be happy.
Your dogs could absolutely harm you, I’m not saying they will but I got bitten by my friends 7kg, 14 year old deaf and blind patterdale terrier she had about 5 teeth and she made a real mess of my leg, if that was my Face I would be scarred for life. She died of old age about a week later.
My bully is nearly 3 he’s totally refusing to wear a muzzle I’ve bought 3 different ones, tried spread tube cheese, treats the lot he runs to his cage.
@user-sc5nw4uy8l still can’t get him to wear one, god knows what am going to do, he’s only been out back garden, bloody shame for him, he’s a big softie, he’s been attacked 5 times bigger dogs, small dogs snap at him..
@user-sc5nw4uy8l I thought they were a really trainable breed with calm temperments...and as long as they have good owners they"re fine, perhaps getting a trainer to show you how to train your dog to take the muzzle and then posting that advice would be better.
I have a 20 month old xl bulldog, she is from the original Xl's that were first brought in the UK in the 1980's, and the real Xl's are American Bulldogs crossed with an American bull mastiff and bred because of their great companion temperament ,but it's not regulated and anyone can bred their dog and calp it an Xl , but we need a national dog register, 😂eve4y single dog must be registered, dna taken and full breeders and sellers details included, only give people a dog licence and they have to get a health check yearly and they have to have insurance for the dog and the minute they miss a payment or vet check they are given a 2 week reminder before suspended the licence and only regulated breeders can bred and sell dogs, and any attacks either on a dog or person has to be reported and taken straight to the vets or drs and have swabs taken, this is sent to the register ppl where the dna is on the register so you can see exactly which dog is responsible, the bred,it's family history and this also gives you a real time data records for all dog attacks in the UK
Rubbish!! You can correlate a likeness to any trait you want to! Serotonin levels is a response to stress levels! You can say that of all dogs treated the average weight of dogs was 60kg. Now dogs around this weight are all aggressive? And bullies bite and hold on which is far less traumatic than a dog that bites several times. Here’s an undeniable fact, any dog that weighs more than 10 pounds is capable of killing a human being if the dog so chooses. And to say that bullies are more fatal in their attacks and other breeds is absolute rubbish. Belgian malanois, Dutch Shepherd, and German shepherds used by military are fatal in their attacks, the majority of the time. Here’s the thing you have to look at, once the bully is banned in the UK what dog is next on the list as the most aggressive? Because then the focus turns to that breed and how long, is it gonna be until that breed is then banned? And so on and so forth. Banning breeds is not the answer. All that is doing, is taking the ability and the freedom away from the citizen to correct the problem on their own terms. How many people have been mild to death by bullies? And how many bullies exist in the UK? The percentage is staggeringly low, which means you are penalizing the majority of people who own bullies that are non-aggressive. That is not why we have a government. They are not putting in place to rule over us, but to help lead everyone to a solution that works for all who are involved. Euthanizing everyone’s pets because a couple responded poorly to a stressful situationis absolute nonsense. Yes, you are singling out this breed! Anyone at this point in time that still relies on the media to give you the truth about these type of situations has clearly not been involved in today’s society. The media was designed to elaborate and if you like exaggerate stories. That’s how they make their money! You have three dogs classified by the media as American bullies. They have been responsible for fatal attacks. There are thousands of American bullies in Europe that have never harmed a human life!
Funny you guys that even say kids scream An yet i have never see a adult teach their kid to act (not run scream around a dog) ect That why we will be' back here Lack of education The $ in breeding An truly that they are animals
My friend has a rescue XL bully. He is so soft and gentle. He is as soft and goofy as our golden retrievers. He was scared of me when he first met me, now he just wants cuddles. In my personal opinion 99% of dangerous dogs are due to the breeders and owners. Our golden retrievers are spoilt (not to their detriment) but they know their limits. They are as soft and cuddly and love everyone, especially kids. I have known of a golden retriever to go for it's owner (my half sister's grandparent). I was never comfortable with that dog. He was put to sleep after biting the owner. I did hear at one point that a lab was the breed with the highest bites on humans. Thank you for this. It was interesting.
I recently spoke to a woman who is a trainer, and she's been through countless dogs. She was bitten by 4 labradors but never a pitbull. Any breed should be handled with care.
It isn't the breed, it is the owners ability to house, train and whether they can provide enough stimuli and companionship to safely own and house their dog properly. Some potential owners need training themselves before they own a large breed of dog perhaps? Banning specific breed types will not address this problem whatsoever.
You are wrong. By your logic you can train any dog for any situation. You are not going to convince me that you can train a shihtzu to be a police dog like you would a German shepherd. The breed has A LOT to do with it. Stop deluding yourself.
Why do people acknowledge that Border Collies herd, Labs retrieve, but when it's a pit bull, literally bred for bull BAITING in a PIT, absolutely all logic goes out the window and the "It's all how you raise them" bullshit starts. You cannot train genetics out of a dog, and pitbulls were bred to bite, hold and shake to death.
@@fakesox3550 Spot on. It's ALL about DNA. We had a Lurcher years ago and she was hardwired to hunt and chase -she was never taught or trained to hunt, it was instinct.
@fakesox3550 not really. If an owner bothers to research about the kind of dog they have, they can tap into what drives them through play and also put the necessary precautions in. Assuming your own dog will never bite is just naive regardless of the breed you have. There may be a time in their life where they are experiencing pain due to health reasons which does sometimes result in a bite. Many owners assume that muzzles are for aggressive dogs but it's also for their dogs safety such as eating things off the floor that they shouldn't eg stones. Any decent owner should crate train, muzzle train and obedience train at the bare minimum because you just don't know what emergency situations lie ahead and the dog is less likely to freak out if they already know what to expect.
The guy that is throwing daggers 🗡️ at a professional trainer and so is he and he prefers the Labrador breed as do aye, but I myself have a XL Bully and no one can ever say “oh my dog won’t bite ,As any dog of any breed can nip or bite,people need to take all breeds into consideration here
I keep a English Bull Terrier and have done so since I seen the movie Oliver, and then got a chance to mind one. Never bit by one, second time to meet a Belgium Malinois and was bitten. You can blame any type of dog, but that dog was not the responsible one it was the owner, who put no work, time or effort in to it.
How can you garner respect when the first sentence out of your mouth is either a lie or ignorant? "Neither the International Canine Federation, The Kennel Club, nor American Kennel Club (AKC) have recognized or accepted the American Bully into their registry as a purebred dog." These damn dogs are dangerous enough without adding false information.
You’re absolutely right. We’re knowledgeable on behaviour and aim to educate with the goal of helping dog owners and dogs themselves. After a long day of filming these things happen, unfortunately. We’re all human beings and mistakes happen. I’ll post a video correcting myself later this week and bring to light the recent changes in legislation.
This is the most balanced and reasonable discussion on this very emotive subject. Thank you.
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It's so hard reaching out to the people who need to be reached out to - the people who look at these dogs and say "Well mine would never" and "they're just house hippos". I have an APBT mix, and despite her mix in genetics... she is what she is, and she displays it every time when it matters the most. We've worked very hard for her to be a stable and safe member in our community, and she's a happy fulfilled dog. I've been called a gatekeeper for saying that we can have our dogs in jammies, bowties, glitter and whatnot... that part doesn't matter. What matters is that we know what we have and we act accordingly. If we don't, we lose the privilege... as the UK is now experiencing.
Many struggle to understand that it isn't just the tough guy with the uncontrollable bully contributing to this, it's also the well meaning person with a dog that they love that doesn't realise that /love isn't enough/ too.
Absolutely spot on about people who humanise their dogs which has led to a very serious problem. Humanising our dogs creates a sense of complacency in households and frustration in dogs as their needs are not being met appropriately. They are not our human babies they are animals and need to be treated as such.
Exactly since this trend of humanizing dogs began, dog behaviour Issues especially aggression has risen so much, it’s insane. The so called best dog owner today are often the ones with dogs with the best issues and will blame it on everything but them and the changes in the way dogs are trained, so called canine behaviour science which is bias because of its connection to big business
True...must admit, growing up our dogs were left outside and coming inside for an hour or so at night was the version of a treat in the 70s and when they came in they werent allowed to jump around they had to lay down on the floor or they got put back outside, they were show dogs, but they didnt have beds or kennels...these days my dogs get their own bedroom have a human queen size bed, airconditioning and come and go from the house when they please plus have a box of toys which i replenish/update every couple of months...our dogs in the 70s were much better behaved and you only had to train them once and it stuck for there entire life.
You can't just look at aggression and ignore capacity for harm. This is what advocates want to do. They want to say "well lap dogs can be aggressive" and they can but their capacity for harm is greatly minimized by their size, strength, bite force etc. So the restrictions on the breed should match the CAPACITY of the breed to do harm. Owning a revolver or a single shot gun should be treated differently than owning a machine gun. So if you wanted a solution, you would categorize dogs by capacity to do harm and then apply restrictions. So yes, dogs like the Cane Corso or Anatoly Shepherd would fall under heavily restricted dogs as well as the American Pitbull and XL Bully. If you did that, then you don't have to worry about the "next" dog breed of choice. You just say well this new dog has the same capacity for harm as an XL Bully so it falls under that restriction. That would also sidestep the accusations of "doggie racism" and other such nonsense.
Watching the trend of treating pets like children grow over the past two decades has been frustrating as hell. In the states, they've taken to calling themselves "pit mommies" as they bought into the lifestyle so deeply it has become part of their identity.
it should be considered ageism, really. it's putting children and dogs on the same level, which isn't OK. kids deserve better than being compared to dogs.
Sadly it will be mastiffs next if the govt doesn't control breeding, advertising selling and ownership. Calvary managed it and massively reduced dog bite occurrences
I have a pit bull mastiff mix that came from the pound we didn't know he was mastiff until he started growing up and got huge
English Mastiffs were not created to kill family /their own kind, as Bloodsport dogs were and more importantly, still are.
I've been around dogs for 40 years. Always understood their genetics, traits, etc, to train and work them. Folk don't seem to do that anymore - they select dogs based on "looks" and don't understand that genetics matter. To get a certain look, they crossbreed them, eg AmBully. Also, see a trend in humanising dogs - they are not nanny dogs or fur babies - popular phrases associated with a 60 to 100lb bully ! that has the capability to kill in the bat of an eyelid - compared to a chihuahua that might require a few stitches. The number of videos I see of kids crawling over bullies to prove a point is alarming.
Chihuahua is usually a very mean very aggressive dog though. American Bully is one of the least prone to aggression according to behavioral studies. Thing is, any large dog can still seriously hurt people if not properly trained, looked after and socialized responsibly. I have seen some very mean and aggressive dangerous labradors.
@AIuzky as far as dog breeds go Pitbulls don’t even have that strong of a bite force.
In todays world I see zero reason for creating a big, powerful monster mutt”. The big dogs are WORKING BREEDS!!! They simply are not made to be anybody’s pet. They aren’t made and given a job they are hardwired for genetically. They just aren’t need in a time with so many shelters…and sadly these dogs can or will end up there.
@@dawnetaverner1382 false. XL bully is bred specifically for good temperament to be a companion breed. It is no more dangerous than a Great Dane, St. Bernard or Mastiff breed. I like a big dog because it is the best kind of lap dog to cuddle with. Being a working breed has nothing to do with size at this point. Within one breed there are different lines too, such as show line, working line, companion line.
It’s honestly racist discrimination. People fear Bully breeds in North America and UK because they are popular with non white people. If the Great Dane was popular among black people, then everyone would be talking about how evil it is.
It sickens me that people are so deluded when it comes to XL bullys. They don't understand. They are ticking time bombs. They are mostly pitbulls that are imported sperm from America!
Very much looking forward to your return and this episode! 👏🏻
Its kind of common sense that if a breed, not well socialised, bred or trained, is capable of pulling an adult human man to the floor and then mauling them to death over 30mins, then that breed really isnt an ideal pet for the general UK public. Especially not right now with the positive only training trend!
When it comes to pits and XL's, I would argue that the dog can appear to be a nice friendly dog and still get triggered due to prey drive and their GENETIC FIGHTING INSTINCTS. Ive seen it happen, the dogs are excited and having a good time throughout the mauling. Prey drive aggression is the most scary, its silent and there is no emotion just pure arousal.
not sociallization or training...the breed
Yes i witnessed this too in my previous husky when he caught and killed my neighbours pet rabbit, the first time you could see he intially didnt know what to do with it but by the time we got it off him his eyes were all glazed and bulging and he was very aroused it took over an hour to calm him down and after that he was constantly fixated on the rabbits and got another a few weeks later. He was only ever this way over things that were a natural food source (rabbits, possums, birds) he was fine with cats, small dogs, children, but huskys were never bred to fight and kill in the first place...however i always found it quite unsettling once id witnessed how catching and killing his own food excited him.
Another dog expert here and I have to say that having the bans on all aversive tools and methods. You need to be able to use all quadrants of dog training. This is ridiculous. I do also see the need for BSL, people just get all kinds of dogs and assume they can love the genetics out of them. You need to understand what you have and take appropriate steps to ensure that dog is not going to be a threat to others. Unfortunately there is no way to control who owns what breeds.
That said, this is a slippery slope and I don’t think BSL is ever the answer.
I'm really fed up with so called dog trainers defending and promoting this breed. The XL bully is not a breed fit for purpose full stop. It is mostly Pitbull and is imported sperm from America. This is not like Amy other dog breed. IT WILL FIGHT TO THE DEATH!! Why are you people so naive!?
@@alisonleiper9913 where did you get it is mostly Pitbull in genetics? XL bully is made up from 5 different breeds true pitbulls are small in size and share Staffordshire bull terrier genetics so shall we ban staffys
This is very informative. Thank you
Really informative. Sharing this. Well done.
False propaganda
I’ve got Chihuahuas and I’ve been bitten but they only leave a little scratch or a tiny bruise, but small dogs are a lot more fearful than big dogs.
chihuahuas and GSD are just as noisy anxious and fearful. sooo
I really don’t like small dogs because most small really small dogs I have ever met tend to be reaaaaly mean!
@@TheGrindcorps I like all dogs. Because i train them😊
If you can't train a small dog, don't get a large dog..... you will have the same results.
My chihuahuas never bite me. You're doing something wrong.
Very interesting and helpful video.
Very informative episode
This trainer is spot on.
If the stats are only 7% for both section 1 and section 3 offences, does this not show that bans work? Exempted dogs must wear leads and muzzles so less likley to cause section 3 offences. We see XLs disproportionately cause the most injuries/fatalities it would be interesting to see the stats in 5/10 years
Unfortunately it doesn't show breed bans working. Number of dog attacks on people leading to hospitalisation has consistently risen after the pitbull type ban in the UK, they were not reduced.
Hi all just caught up with the latest podcast. As always so much useful information for those watching and the wider public. Lets hope owners of the type take it onboard and comply with the legislation. G.
The treating them like people comment really rang true for me after seeing people carrying their large breed dogs on escalators and snowy or rain wee ground!! It’s nuts!! Said dog usually is wearing some item of human apparel.
This was a great episode 👌🏻
🙏 great information, sound advice
Why is it talking about about biting ??? Its Fatal killing pattern thats the problem not biting!! All pets bite
people aslo need to check there behaviour around dogs . As a dog walker I have had so many cases where people have behaved silly around the dogs i walk ie screaming running or pushing one another infront of the dogs to get a reaction out of the dogs to scare there friends.
They destroyed perfectly good dogs for not wearing a muzzle IN an vehicle?! 😢
I understand that these dogs are incredibly strong and have a massive and powerful bite and something needs to be done. My concern is that unless action is taken against the unscrupulous breeders who have been "putting these animals together just to achieve a certain look" will now turn their attention to mixing some other breeds to come up with something equally dangerous. People talk about licensing.. We had dog licenses years ago. It didn't work. It can't be policed. Dogs are legally supposed to be chipped but how many times do we see that the chip hasn't been registered or updated!! I believe in the US the largest number of dog bites are from Labs. Is this because they are the most numerous ? Is their breeding unregulated so that they get mixed, even slightly, or inbred? I hope banning works, however sad it is for caring and responsible owners.. But I just have my doubts!
I known people that select the most aggressive ones and breed them and that's what some people want, they thşnk they will be good guard dogs but they make shit guard dogs...
I find an English and Fench bulldog being more aggressive then any pit or xl bully. Staffy terriers can bite and hold just as hard and long as any bully breed. Banning "breeds" really just leads people to just choosing other breeds, and then people overbreeding those dogs, leading to the same problems.
The XL bully is not recognised by the American Kennel Club. They can be registered with the ABKC or UKC. Totally agree with your sentiment though, its unfair on the dogs to not be honest about what they are capable of.
You’re absolutely right. We’re knowledgeable on behaviour and aim to educate with the goal of helping dog owners and dogs themselves. After a long day of filming these things happen, unfortunately. We’re all human beings and mistakes happen. I’ll post a video correcting myself later this week and bring to light the recent changes in legislation.
@@unleashedk9servicesdannywe703 thanks for replying, much respect to you for all you do to help dogs and owners 👍
What are the warning signs. The breed
🙌 thank you. 👍🐾❤️
Just to say that many years ago (early 80s) I looked after a pit bull and a pekinese whilst their owners were away. The pit is the only dog that has made the hair on the back of my neck stand.. She was pure muscle. You couldn't looknhef in the eye but other than that she was OK. When I took them out for walks the pit was good as gold. The pekinese wanted to start a war with every other dog it saw!!
a video AND a comment section on this topic that ISN'T full of misinfo and has common sense while exploring the nuances? as a fellow dog enthusiast it's refreshing to see bc it's on a daily basis that I see the toxic cesspool of arguments/misinfo pushed on other platforms/forums. This is a very frustrating topic as people have been encouraged to believe all sorts of nonsense from the nanny stuff to "it's all how they're raised/the owner" + breed standards/many proper practices with animals are suddenly evil. The standards for the most part are your blueprint for breeds and deviations from that standard are where the issues start. MOST dogs now are coming from backyard breeders (not ones who are actually properly dedicated to their breeds) mills, and the retail rescues that support them. They certainly don't care to follow ANY standards- thus increases in health/behavior issues + many abandoned dogs. The people who should be listened to aren't; research is not properly done nor easily accessible. Much of it is biased and unclear about how they're actually collecting the data or whether the dogs they analyze are actually well-bred or not. Many might be mislabeled. I've had my experiences with bull breed mutts- the genes are there and its important to respect that. I've seen the nice fun times with one dog (though there were health issues) and an incident that could have resulted in multiple deaths with another.
American bully is the actual breed in America, xl, standard, classic, pocket are all types of the breed due to show competition and the mass mix of what the breed is e.g American staff x pitbull ( original mix which the founder Dave Wilson bred to make a companion breed) the 90’s breeding kennels starting mixing American Bulldog, Old English Bulldog, English Bulldog and mastiff’s to make the dog larger, not to look at temperament, when they done breeding coz they would be bred for look over temperament what the American bully was not bred for in the first place, it was bred to make a large companion breed not to be aggressive.
Unless they bring back licenses with attached requirement to train ..
Dog men will just produce another bull n terrier mix or worse .
Great honest discussion, great panel, mix of people. Particularly the trainer that owns a bull breed. This understanding and acceptance of what you have/own when you own a fighting dog breed is what people need to have, but don't. Also they cover all bases the way anyone just throws two dogs together and calls themselves a breeder. We all need to stop buying dogs from these backyard breeders(regardless of breed) so it takes the money out of it. Basically we need t turn back time ti the 70s and 80s when you only bought full pedigree show quality dogs from breeders that bred for quality and temperment and you had a dogs background going back 4 generations. That said, the nature of dogs is still to fight especially with same sex. And as this bull breed owner/trainer says the bull breeds have a completely different fight style, so if you have one and it engages in an attack on another dog or person it is going to do damage or kill what its attacking and unlike other breeds, bull/fighting dog breeds are very hard to stop once engaged in an attack, as they were genetically purpose bred to fight like that. I also dont understand why those that own them dont just do as per what the restrictions require, your dogs are fine if you exercise them regularly and you keep them muzzled. For those of you that want to give them a bit more exercised why dont you start your own little club meet where you meet once a week at your houses and let your dogs interact with eachother? If they are on private propert than can play together without a muzzle ans as long as you walk them for at least an hour a day on lead as well they will be fine. As the owner of an intact male husky this is what i do as i had to give up on the dog park because my dog kept getting attacked by other male off leash dogs.
My Xl's never been aggressive or anything in her behaviour but I am really worried every single time I go out with her now because I have had lots of different small dogs of their leads running up and getting very aggressive towards her and she just sits down but my other friend who has a xl had the same things happen and he had his dog on his lead and the other dog attacked his dog..but that's what I am really worried about happening to my 20 month old xl Envie x
Same with my girl , I try to avoid walks where lots of dog walkers go because my girl can’t defend herself
@@TammyN987 Rest assured, non fighting dog breeds do not fight like fighting dog breeds. Ie they preserve their own life so if they bite they will bite and release /jump out of the way, so the owner will have plenty of time to grab their dog before it does any serious damage to your dog. If your dog is muzzled they are also much more likely to be game enough to jump in and grab there dog. Personally, i would make no attempt to grab my dog if he ended up in a fight with a fighting dog breed until the other owner has got hold of his dog...as i know my dog will stop fighting as soon as I grab hold of him (based on past experience).
True. Completely true
No one should be surprised that a pit bull terrier x with an americsn stafford bull terrier is dog aggressive. Many breeds of terrier have been used.for dog fighting in past they lack that added tenacity adding bull dog in created and xls are double wammy on both input breed group.
Just about to say let the dog come to you.
People do have to come first and that's the most important thing regardless of what animal it is. The thing is most dog animals are bred for something and unfortunately as humans, we have forgotten that over the years now what we are left with now is most people buying dogs for family pets and not the original purpose the dog was bred for this is where we have the problem with your small dogs to your big dogs and unless all dogs get proper trained then they can all turn if pushed whether that's another dog that makes the original calm dog afraid and acting out of self defence to later on thinking all dogs or humans are against them. It's proven that a dog can act out of fear or it can also sense that the human is insecure and feel that it needs to protect. The bottom line is a small dogs can have and impact on a another small dogs temperament and this can happen with both big dogs and vice versa. Again the bottom line is humans are the source of the problem the goverment or people who we vote to be in charge are as guilty as the owner for any dog attacks in history people might not want to hear this but we are the source of the dogs teaching and behaviour from a Young age so practically unless you are a trainer and your dog won't leave your side and wonder off to another dog then they should all be on a lead and if its known to bite whether its a small bite or a big one then it should be muzzled and on the lead at all times. No one has the right to condemn a certain breed more then the other breed as we have caused these problems from the beginning and again instead of us all accepting liability we blame a certain breed again if we were all responsible then there would have never been a dog attack in history unless the dog was breed for that reason sadly people have used dogs for many different reasons game hunting and so on man kind is the problem time after time man/women. I love dogs but humans are more important but every dog that has life in it deserves to have the same treatment as every other dog. All dog needs to be properly trained that will be more affective then killing off any breed. Wake up people use money and resources to better equipped owners or make a licence to own any dog and put rules into place that all owners regardless of the breed should follow. And if then the owner doesn't follow them and the dogs out of control to the point its aggressive towards humans or any other dog then sadly put it to sleep and hold the owner responsible under the licence and rules and the consequences of breaking the agreement like a lot of people say there's good people who own xl bullies and then there people who own them for the wrong reasons whats to stop them from getting another type of dog regardless of how big or small it may be under the wrong training that dog can cause fear to any humans and have the potential to hurt an adult or killing a baby. Please somebody who can make a difference put this into the eyes of the government and make a true change as this law isn't even an attempt to take away the harm that dogs can do under the wrong hands its an attempt to pass the blame until the next breed comes along
Funny the 1 channel to try to teach. Yet very few views. Its a sham that people watch the news but lack to lean facts.
Dogs do what they no, An what we teach. An the dog is An animal. Any trates in human plants animals. We are to blame but humans tend to pass that along😢
Now they banned cane corso breeding n ownership will go up n they problem will be the same...in my area they're loads wiv inexperienced owners.belgim malinois aswell since John wick.its a shame on the dogs
the dog trainer has got the point and so spot on but the lady is so irritating always acting smart. This is more a problem with dog owners than dogs. If you cannot control a dog, you must not own one. Firstly the ones that must be banned are the owners. there must be dog trainer licensee in order to get a dog. a dog is not your family member. a dog is a dog and if you treat it like one, it will also be happy.
I agree about dogs being humanised, mine ARE humanised, they are like babies but they are really small and I know they can’t harm me.
Your dogs could absolutely harm you, I’m not saying they will but I got bitten by my friends 7kg, 14 year old deaf and blind patterdale terrier she had about 5 teeth and she made a real mess of my leg, if that was my Face I would be scarred for life. She died of old age about a week later.
My bully is nearly 3 he’s totally refusing to wear a muzzle I’ve bought 3 different ones, tried spread tube cheese, treats the lot he runs to his cage.
@user-sc5nw4uy8l still can’t get him to wear one, god knows what am going to do, he’s only been out back garden, bloody shame for him, he’s a big softie, he’s been attacked 5 times bigger dogs, small dogs snap at him..
@user-sc5nw4uy8l I could end up serious bother though if I take him out.
@user-sc5nw4uy8l I thought they were a really trainable breed with calm temperments...and as long as they have good owners they"re fine, perhaps getting a trainer to show you how to train your dog to take the muzzle and then posting that advice would be better.
I have a 20 month old xl bulldog, she is from the original Xl's that were first brought in the UK in the 1980's, and the real Xl's are American Bulldogs crossed with an American bull mastiff and bred because of their great companion temperament ,but it's not regulated and anyone can bred their dog and calp it an Xl , but we need a national dog register, 😂eve4y single dog must be registered, dna taken and full breeders and sellers details included, only give people a dog licence and they have to get a health check yearly and they have to have insurance for the dog and the minute they miss a payment or vet check they are given a 2 week reminder before suspended the licence and only regulated breeders can bred and sell dogs, and any attacks either on a dog or person has to be reported and taken straight to the vets or drs and have swabs taken, this is sent to the register ppl where the dna is on the register so you can see exactly which dog is responsible, the bred,it's family history and this also gives you a real time data records for all dog attacks in the UK
Was not bred to be big and powerful. And actually have a low bite force comparatively to many other dogs.
Rubbish!! You can correlate a likeness to any trait you want to! Serotonin levels is a response to stress levels! You can say that of all dogs treated the average weight of dogs was 60kg. Now dogs around this weight are all aggressive?
And bullies bite and hold on which is far less traumatic than a dog that bites several times. Here’s an undeniable fact, any dog that weighs more than 10 pounds is capable of killing a human being if the dog so chooses. And to say that bullies are more fatal in their attacks and other breeds is absolute rubbish. Belgian malanois, Dutch Shepherd, and German shepherds used by military are fatal in their attacks, the majority of the time. Here’s the thing you have to look at, once the bully is banned in the UK what dog is next on the list as the most aggressive? Because then the focus turns to that breed and how long, is it gonna be until that breed is then banned? And so on and so forth. Banning breeds is not the answer. All that is doing, is taking the ability and the freedom away from the citizen to correct the problem on their own terms. How many people have been mild to death by bullies? And how many bullies exist in the UK? The percentage is staggeringly low, which means you are penalizing the majority of people who own bullies that are non-aggressive. That is not why we have a government. They are not putting in place to rule over us, but to help lead everyone to a solution that works for all who are involved. Euthanizing everyone’s pets because a couple responded poorly to a stressful situationis absolute nonsense.
Yes, you are singling out this breed! Anyone at this point in time that still relies on the media to give you the truth about these type of situations has clearly not been involved in today’s society. The media was designed to elaborate and if you like exaggerate stories. That’s how they make their money! You have three dogs classified by the media as American bullies. They have been responsible for fatal attacks. There are thousands of American bullies in Europe that have never harmed a human life!
Funny you guys that even say kids scream An yet i have never see a adult teach their kid to act (not run scream around a dog) ect
That why we will be' back here
Lack of education
The $ in breeding An truly that they are animals
My friend has a rescue XL bully. He is so soft and gentle. He is as soft and goofy as our golden retrievers. He was scared of me when he first met me, now he just wants cuddles.
In my personal opinion 99% of dangerous dogs are due to the breeders and owners.
Our golden retrievers are spoilt (not to their detriment) but they know their limits. They are as soft and cuddly and love everyone, especially kids.
I have known of a golden retriever to go for it's owner (my half sister's grandparent). I was never comfortable with that dog. He was put to sleep after biting the owner.
I did hear at one point that a lab was the breed with the highest bites on humans.
Thank you for this. It was interesting.
I’d heard that lab bite statistic too but wondered if it was because more people own labs?
You are the problem
dangerously false myth....not breeders or owners...the breed...they can't help it and neither can you
@@anniwilson2534 pit bulls don't "bite"..the majority of toddlers killed by them are decapitated or partially decapitated......that's not a "bite"
I recently spoke to a woman who is a trainer, and she's been through countless dogs. She was bitten by 4 labradors but never a pitbull. Any breed should be handled with care.
It isn't the breed, it is the owners ability to house, train and whether they can provide enough stimuli and companionship to safely own and house their dog properly. Some potential owners need training themselves before they own a large breed of dog perhaps? Banning specific breed types will not address this problem whatsoever.
You are wrong. By your logic you can train any dog for any situation. You are not going to convince me that you can train a shihtzu to be a police dog like you would a German shepherd. The breed has A LOT to do with it. Stop deluding yourself.
@@fakesox3550he’s not wrong a good trainer and a good responsible dog owner can make a bad dog ok.
Why do people acknowledge that Border Collies herd, Labs retrieve, but when it's a pit bull, literally bred for bull BAITING in a PIT, absolutely all logic goes out the window and the "It's all how you raise them" bullshit starts. You cannot train genetics out of a dog, and pitbulls were bred to bite, hold and shake to death.
@@fakesox3550 Spot on. It's ALL about DNA.
We had a Lurcher years ago and she was hardwired to hunt and chase -she was never taught or trained to hunt, it was instinct.
@fakesox3550 not really. If an owner bothers to research about the kind of dog they have, they can tap into what drives them through play and also put the necessary precautions in.
Assuming your own dog will never bite is just naive regardless of the breed you have. There may be a time in their life where they are experiencing pain due to health reasons which does sometimes result in a bite.
Many owners assume that muzzles are for aggressive dogs but it's also for their dogs safety such as eating things off the floor that they shouldn't eg stones.
Any decent owner should crate train, muzzle train and obedience train at the bare minimum because you just don't know what emergency situations lie ahead and the dog is less likely to freak out if they already know what to expect.
The scouse fella is a bit intense. Needs to relax.
The guy that is throwing daggers 🗡️ at a professional trainer and so is he and he prefers the Labrador breed as do aye, but I myself have a XL Bully and no one can ever say “oh my dog won’t bite ,As any dog of any breed can nip or bite,people need to take all breeds into consideration here
All dogs have aggressive nature this is not right
Xl bully is not a pitbull
I keep a English Bull Terrier and have done so since I seen the movie Oliver, and then got a chance to mind one.
Never bit by one, second time to meet a Belgium Malinois and was bitten. You can blame any type of dog, but that dog was not the responsible one it was the owner, who put no work, time or effort in to it.
How can you garner respect when the first sentence out of your mouth is either a lie or ignorant? "Neither the International Canine Federation, The Kennel Club, nor American Kennel Club (AKC) have recognized or accepted the American Bully into their registry as a purebred dog." These damn dogs are dangerous enough without adding false information.
You’re absolutely right. We’re knowledgeable on behaviour and aim to educate with the goal of helping dog owners and dogs themselves. After a long day of filming these things happen, unfortunately. We’re all human beings and mistakes happen. I’ll post a video correcting myself later this week and bring to light the recent changes in legislation.
Have you got one . Shut up and to you have had experience of these dogs
Emphatically incorrect
Faulse propaganda