Is Chi-Yu the Strongest Pokemon of ALL TIME?
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- Is Chi-Yu the Strongest Pokemon of ALL TIME? Depends on what you mean by strongest, but yes.
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Common Pokemon I've seen mentioned:
Mega Rayquaza: No boosting ability, weaker than Chi-yu. Dragon Ascent (120BP) is pretty strong but weaker than Chi-yu's Overheat
Mega Medicham: Can't hold an item, weaker than Chi-yu, but only barely. Mega Medicham High Jump Kick is barely weaker than Chi-yu Overheat
Medicham: CAN hold an item, barely stronger than Chi-yu. Medicham Choice Banded High Jump Kick is barely stronger than Chi-yu Overheat
Chien-Pao: Lower Attack (120) than Chi-yu has special attack (135), also weaker attacks
Darmanitan-Galar: Has the boosting ability and access to choice band... but icicle crash is really weak :(
Bidoof: I forgot this one, it is stronger than Chi-yu. Please forgive this error.
Bidoof is confirmed the stronger pokemon by freezai?!?!
The bidoof sweep is real‼
mega mawile
Peanut Butter the Golden Bidoof god
You were wrong to ignore Bidoof; Moody means it can beat practically anything with enough luck.
i bet in gen 15, dracovish will be in NU
Nah more like gen 9.5
Id say 20
By next gen mega rayquaza would be in OU
Honestly I dont doubt dracovish is gonna be in UU after like 1 more gen
Powercreep has been insane
It’s crazy how this joke never fails to be funny! I’m sure people will still even tell it by gen 15 because of just how funny it is!
The common thread I have seen with the most recent broken pokemon, mainly referencing Zacian, is that self boosting abilities that provide an offensive advantages are broken. Zacian had stupidly high speed with the extra boost to attack. This fish just gets to have the highest spatk stat. On gen3 we had Slaking which had an ability that nerfed him because of the high stats. Now the high stat mons are buffing themselves further.
Gen 3 had soul dew latios. Legendaries have always had crazy stuff, although they're definitely getting even crazier now.
And Regigigas has slow start, so even legendaries (even if just one i think) got abilities that nerfed them
I mean these are legendaries while you can catch slakoth before first gym.
@@dialzza4902 yeah but that had to hold an item meaning it couldnt just run leftovers or something, it had to have it, and in gen 4 that could be knocked off
@@dialzza4902 True, but Soul Dew has always been banned in official formats, until they nerfed it.
Keep in mind that Chi-Yu originally had base 145 special attack, but it was nerfed day 1 to 135....
What was Gamefreak smoking
@@aetherwarrior4640 Sprigatito
@@aetherwarrior4640 Some absolute gas apparently
@@aetherwarrior4640they were cooking 🧑🍳
@@ragingstorm_ "We gotta cook Jessie"- Gamefreak
I find it hilarious that Chi-Yu is the most devastating offensive threat in OU despite being the least intimidating looking out of the four ruinous mons.
Haha goldfish go boop
Goldfish grew tired of being a carnival reward. Goldfish had enough of the poor memory joke. Now goldfish will burn the world down.
Chien pao is pretty much as threatening as chi yu. But unfortunately it’s not 135 attack and 120 speed, but rather 120 attack and 135 speed
feesh
goldfish will remember this.
the goldfish has a higher special attack stat than the god of the sea and humanity's greatest attempt at a legendary pokemon
and literal god. though as far as sheer spa goes literal god loses to all of those
@@tegxi he's letting the kids play
It's a lesser form. Its true form is "A Thousand Hands" or whatever. Also, in a 1v1, Arceus would literally just switch to an immune / resistant type for every single attack anything throws at it.
Kyogre's automatic weather ability was the original STAB Tera 😂 it's power takes an insane jump especially with mystic water but the fact that Chi-Yu is close to that, has better speed, dual STAB, and the ability to still set up Weather or Tera.
and don't forget
it's a fire-type fish
I'M FROM THE FUTURE!
In Gen 18, Groudon holds a niche in ZU as a bulky sun setter, after being replaced in PU by Kamisakana.
Kamisakana ability is World's End, that sets up the new global warming weather effect, that instantly KOs Ice types with BSTs lower than 500, and maximizes the attacking stats of all fire types on the field, this is of course balanced by the fact that Kamisakana has 10 in both it's defenses to balance the 255 in its other stats.
At least we have ultra mega raquaza to check it
@@patrickripleyiii134 true, but sadly (and ironically) deoxys-ultima counters it with its overpowered dna shift ability. on the bright side arceus holding the supreme legend plate can ultra evolve and one shot it and everything else at once, its probably the ruler of ZU
Yeah it's really only good as a revenge killer using choice scarf, but at least we dont have to deal with the ou staple uber mega z form dyna zacian, cant believe it gets all its stats maximized when it switches in, but at least it cant superteralize and make all moves 1/4 th damage, because of story reasons
ok but that’s all kinda countered by Ferroterra, whose ability can literally kill anyone who physically attacks it, and with its move Reflect Beam, it can reflect special attacks aswell without damage. This with Rightunders can be deadly, esp in Doubles. Just waiting for it to get to UUbers.
"god fish" lol
Mega Mawile and Mega Medicham are in the same vein as the mentioned Mega Pokemon, in that they are stronger raw stats-wise, but they're locked to their Mega Stones in the first place.
@Joaquin both physical though sadly
@Joaquin mega mewtwo x huge power
Not if you use a choice banned ditto to copy them
Choice Band Ditto LMAO
@@Iris_Descent That's that secret tech... Y'all sleep
0:35 Just as you mention that it has 492 special attack with Beads of Ruin, your Bombirdier gains 492 exp, spooky
That’s wild lol
"there are no coincidences." - supreme kai from kung fu panda
I forget that Deepseatooth Clamperl literally has the highest spatk before Chi-Yu came along.
I didn't even know it 😂the cheese potential of this is limitless.
Clamperl is the one true Trick Room god
A 100 base speed tier makes it strong but not unplayable like Zacian was. A lot of Pokemon can outspeed Chi-Yu if it isn’t using a scarf, and then revenge kill it pretty easily. Still an amazing Pokemon regardless, and probably one of the best overall mons from this generation.
I’m assuming your saying it’s not anything goes tier and not that it shouldn’t be ubers
@@kronalord3764 i think that's what they mean. More specifically, they're saying that Chi-yu has to choose between outspeeding certain Pokemon with Scarf and losing some of it's offensive power or having the extra offensive power from Specs but being outsped by Pokemon that are naturally faster than it or use Scarf.
Also, Chi-Yu is easily revenge killed with priority
Definitely, the 147 speed was the problem with zacian. If it was base 100 be easy enough to deal with
@@ilovedogs2642 zacian is also much more bulky
I heard this apocryphally, but apparently Chi-Yu used to have 10 more base SpAtk before the day one patch. Yeah, let that sink in.
Not even Scalemons Abra reaches that kind of power lol
All of the treasure of ruin legendaries had 10 more in there highest stat before day one patch
That is correct, the whole quartet had their stats adjusted in the patch.
not only that but the ability was a 30% stat reduction instead of 25%
@@s0me_dood Is that true? Bulbapedia has the BST nerf documented but not the ability, though I could have very easily missed that as I wasn't looking for it.
When special attackers can beat Blissey, you know power creep has gotten out of hand
Remember when the only special attack that could beat blissey was choice specs Kyogre waterspout?
@@nuclearllama7239 or keldeo's secret sword boosted or with choice specs?
Today when I played in OU I saw something I dread every time I close my eyes. Someone had brought Chi-Yu. I started sweating as I sat down and gazed over at the Chi-Yu with highly likely a choice item. He had already reinforced his Chi-Yu with sun and was in the process of finding a way to switch it in. I start shaking. I keep telling myself I'm going to be alright and that there's nothing to worry about. He somehow finds a fucking way to switch it in. Tears are running down my cheeks as I send my last texts to my family saying I love them. The Chi-Yu is now there, staring, and starts spamming Flamethrower. The eyes on his Chi-Yu flare to life like a nuclear flash, and rage fills my heart and shakes my very soul. My entire team goes down. My desk begins to shake as I rage. In mere seconds my world has gone from vibrant life, to a dark, earth shattering void where my body is getting torn apart by a Chi-Yu. As my body finally surrenders, I weep, as my ELO go under. I fucking hate Chi-Yu.
-a copypasta from r/stunfisk
You really gotta admire how Game Freak's solution to powercreep isn't to slow it down, but rather to put a brick on the accelerator and jump out of the car.
Zacian is gone for one gen and everyone forgets what oppression is
Isn’t Zacian the only Pokémon to ever be banned to anything goes?
@@KovertCorteX mega rayquaza, arceus in gen 4
@@KovertCorteXdon’t forget mega-rayquaza and Gen 4 Arceus
@@KovertCorteX nope farceus in gen 4 was banned to ag (called farceus because it was received at level 100 so it can only be ev'd with vitamins which gave it an effective 101 base stat in every stat.) Along with this Mega Rayquaza was banned to ag in gen 6 for being WAY TOO STRONG. There was also talk about banning calyrex shadow to ag but it didn't get banned due to being hard walled by dark types in general and yveltal being everywhere
Zacian will be back very soon
the fact chi-yu can compete with kyogre or miraidon is mind blowing when you realize rain or electric terrain are already taken in considerarion for those two, but chi-yu wasn't under sun which means its moves can potentially be boosted even further. that mon truly is a beast
for whatever reason houndstone's last respects caps at 100 deaths, so if by some freak accident you end up in a situation where your opponent is actually able to rack up that high of a kill count you end up with a move that literally has 5050 base power before stab
Yeah, Last Respects has been shown to reach 262 million damage dealt in optimal conditions, with an even higher maximum theoretical output.
Assist + Revivial Blessing combo
@@pitchblendeprotogen Ayoooo
@@pitchblendeprotogen The only problem with this is that Last Respects can presumably be called by Assist since, in the end, it's still just an attacking move, not a specialized one like say, Copycat or 2 turn attacks.
Could you not also just have two Revival Blessing users (Rabsca and Pawmot)?
Imagine if Mewtwo had a psychic terrain hydron engine
😟😳😰
Shh, you’ll give gamefreak ideas
@@mello-by well mewtwo is pretty bad in ubers it needs a boost to be used more
@@paperfigure9438 Gen 1 and 2 legendaries all need boosts. They all literally were just slapped with Pressure and GF said K, now to give Dog with sword attack boost.
@@MrZahsome Ho-oh would like to have a word
I'm surprised there was no mention of mega mawile or mega medicham. They are certainly less viable than chi-yu but with huge power and pure power their attack stats are functionally over 200 base. If I'm not mistaken mega mawile's attack stat is so high that it literally cannot be matched by pure base stats, because they max out at either 254 or 255.
Also mega lucario with adaptability is certainly more powerful with its stabs.
yeah it would be effective base 259.5 if base stats went higher than 255
255, but only one stat has ever gotten it (Even Eternamax Eternatus didn't get DEF and SPD quite to that value.)
@@silvergalaxia8538 if i'm not mistaken, the mega orb means others with more than 145 base attack and a choice band stab move of 120 base power would be higher (but i'm thinking of what fits that condition) :O
@@darwinwatterson4568 Rampardos technically fits because of Head Smash. Unless you mean with Adaptability too?
If we're talking extremely specific scenarios, Shuckle comes to mind
No good STAB though
@@burritoman2k If we're only considering "extremely specific scenarios", turn 5 rollout is good STAB. If defense curl was used, its base power is effectively 960 before STAB.
@@GigaHands you're missing the point? Shuckle from what i remember can theoretically deal the most damage of any pokemon i remember it being ridiculous like in the millions , i think that's what the comment was referencing
Fucklea too goated
@@linkedlord5449 he’s also referencing that
Keep in mind this thing was NERFED in the day 1 patch.
Nerfed? How exactly?
@@N12015 it use to have a special attack stat of 145 before dropping it to 135
@@adrianbaker8875 Chien Pao also had a base 130 Attack before the 1.1 update
@@Kali_Krause And only because of that they were not quickbanned if i understand correctly.
Whenever people talk about Chi-Yu, I keep thinking they're talking about a tier.
How long do you think it will take for Chi-Yu to drop into PU?
2 more gens at this rate of power creep
when it gets a hidden ability and Beads Of Ruin is banned from all tiers
About a decade at most
Garchomp has stayed at least OU for every single gen since its introduction, so Chi-Yu probably will also stay for a while yet, unless they directly nerf it (like Aegislash. RIP ghost sword. Or Gengar. RIP ghost boy).
wow that’s a funny question lol. Maybe 4 gens? Power creep nowadays is craaaazy
I'm surprised there was no mention of mega-ray, since that once CAN hold an item
Since it "only" has base offenses of 180, and its ability is purely defensive/utility, Chi-Yu is naturally stronger even with items included.
Miridon is even more nuts in its terrain. I say that’s the strongest imo. It has perfect coverage
Shame his Design is so Lame
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214hey don’t diss my guy Miraidon
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 I still think a prehistoric Frilled lizard is cooler than a motorcycle lizard, but to each their own
@@saijiexiang9230 personally a funky looking red lizard is better than the Penis Dragon, but i respect your opinion
@@fishyweeb4820 but i said Miraidon's desifg was lame
The craziest thing about all the treasures of ruin is that they used to all be stronger but got nerfed in a day one patch. Chi-Yu originally had base 145 special attack.
Chi Yu had 145 base spA on launch, only mon ever nerfed like that
All the ruination mons had 10 more bst on launch actually
Ting lu had 10 more hp, 5 more defense and 5 less special attack
Chien pao had 10 more attack
Wo chien had 5 more attack and 5 more special attack
(Info in bulbapedia)
@@mauricio3350 I think Ting lu was only 10 like the others. I don't think it's hp was touched...it was the defenses. I do not remember.
@@longingsoul1 it's still 10 less BST. They nerfed the defense but buffed Special Attack.
Chi-yu truly is the snack that smiles back
i like this new style of editing, keep up the good work bro!
Hello I'm from 2024.
Currently in Gen 10 Mega Rayquaza is viable in PU as a niche pick to counter primal Groudon and Kyogre.
The Current OU is run by Lashaqabaca and Peepobpeep who have quad typing with wonderguard and 1hit KO moves in blabloomp and Balalala that are guaranteed to hit regardless of evasion/defense after tailwind.
A thing with Dracovish outspeeding is that for many targets, the ones that can outspeed it are usually on the frailer side and will go down to an unboosted Fishious Rend regardless.
It's probably even more dangerous in doubles because Beads of Ruin boosts its teammate's attacks as well, which helps popular spread moves like Expanding Force, Electroweb, Heat Wave, Icy Wind and so on. Regieleki is a stupidly fast transfer Pokémon that's not part of the restricted list that gains even more powerful special attacks when Chi-Yu is on its side, having Tera Ice to punch through resists and Electroweb to help set-up a one-two punch with Chi-Yu.
180 HP / 252 SpA / 76 Spe Timid Eleki outspeeds Scarf Garchomp and is too bulky to be oneshot by most Choice Scarf Pokémon, while also free to hold any item it wants. A boosting item is the most consistent, but you can run Lum Berry to negate Prankster sleep move, Covert Cloak to blank Fake Out or even a Choice Scarf vs Scarf Miraidon (after Chi-Yu's Beads Tera Ice Blast is an OHKO).
If you want a cleaner answer vs Dragons such as the Box Legendaries, you can run Iron Bundle as your other restricted mon which does not need Terastalization to beat them. In fact, it doesn't even need a Choice Scarf vs a Scarf Miraidon because the terrain boosts its speed!
Damn, my fav Pokemon Porygon-Z is really giving that fish a run for its money 🥳
Freezai: How strong is Chi-Yu actually?
False Swipe Gaming: ...I sense a disturbance in the force.
Purely off numbers: make shuckle switch its attack and switch a focus band onto it. It’s probably possible to consistently do it in doubles, but it would probably render at least one of your own Pokémon more or less useless
But boosting moves should not be considered. Just as Shuckle can use Power Trick, Chi-Yu can use Nasty Plot and so has Shuckle handily beat after one turn of boosting.
@@wombat4191 Technically Shuckle can use defense curl before using power trick to boost its attack higher.
Still pretty irrelevant though lol
@@epicfail1193 except that it can't. Power Trick swaps raw stats, and leave stat changes to the stat that has been changed. So in this case, Shuckle would end up with a really high attack stat, and a pathetic defense stat that's boosted by one stage.
@@wombat4191 Didn't realize. In that case, Shuckle has shell smash.
@@epicfail1193 that true
Worth noting that this is for Timid Chi-Yu. A Pokemon would need a Special Attack of well over 200 to match Modest.
It's always interesting to hear about things from the singles side of the meta, in doubles I've never struggled against chi yu. They get shut down by rain and sand teams plus their ability lowers their teammate's sp def
You mean *n*ever?
Isnt chi yu banned rn tho?
"While it's not much these days, Chi-Yu's effective 197 Special Attack was a new high at the time Scarlet and Violet released," the 68 year old TH-camr reminisced. "Why, when I was younger, I remember being very vocal about wanting it banned from OU. These days, Chi-yu has to take advantage of allies and specific synergies, but the held items haven't changed. Glad they're back, it's been 7 generations since last we've seen them. Good ol' fish. Today, the highest special attack is 323, belonging to, no surprise, Artibus, the embodiment of creative drive. Power creep never seems to end."
Game Freak Executives: Write that down! Write that down!
Freezai flexin his arithmetic skills with this video. I can respect that
Chiyu was nerf in a patch before the game release he had 145 bast instead of 135
How can you be nerfed in a patch before the game release?
Obviously Chi-Yu is strong, but the math to get 492 is inaccurate. You aren't boosting your own sp attack, you're reducing other pokemons' sp defense, which is entirely different math. If their sp def is lower, that ability has less of an effect, and if it's higher it has more of an effect. It's hard to say if an equal sp def of 369 being reduced by Chi-Yu's ability would even equate to a sp attack stat of 492. It's worth mentioning I think.
The Powercrept in Gen 9 Pokémon is Scary, Pokemon is in its Pendulum Era.
Well, we all know how powercrept pendulums eventually became....
I think that's gen 8. Gen 9 is the link era, with Chi-Yu being double helix.
@@N12015 Houndstone and Fluttermane are Ftk Fire wall
@@N12015 What would be Halqifibrax, then? Maybe Iron Bundle?
@@Hyperneosonic97 Halquifibrax is Gholdengo because for some reason, They are taking so long to Kill Gholdengo like Halq.
An Zacian is Mystic Mine.
It's also worth noting that Chi-Yu was actually NERFED, previously having a base 145 special attack compared to it's current 135
I know I’m late to the party, but hearing Chi-Yu and OU in the same sentence is hilarious
Played my first game of gen 9 OU. Got 6-0d by tera fire chi yu. Went back to playing gen 8
Just wait until they make regis which have their 200 stat in attack and sp attack its just a matter of time oh and the messed up stab abilities that eleki and draco have
Angry Goldfish go brr
it was actually even stronger before the day 1 patch reduced its BST from 580 to 570 and reduced its base spatk from 145 to 135
After watching this, I have come to this conclusion, GameFreak needs to make Mewtwo great again
PSYCHIC SURGE MEWTWO! PSYCHIC SURGE MEWTWO!
“But its ability beats Zarude and..” cannot be unheard
Funny design Pokémon, powerful stats, and getting ready to be banned to Ubers, getting some deja vu from a certain funny shaped fish from Generation 8
Good to know that my favorite pokemon of this generation is _an absolute god._
The fact that Clamperl have such a cool gimmick makes me really surprise
How about choice band galarian darmanitan? Or ultra necrozma , and urshifu dark wicked blow. These guys are pretty powerful. Xerneas moonblast is an honourable mention
what are you on about mate
@@acovixt
Neuroforce gives a 1.67x boost to Super Effective attacks when used by ultra necrozma. He has 167 base attack and spatk.
Urshifu-Dark's Wicked Blow is a guaranteed critical hit 80 BP dark type stab attack, it's not as strong as chi-yu but it's something widely considered by many who played gen 8 to be an unwallable attack.
Choice band Galarian-Darmanitan with Gorilla tactics gets essentially a 2.25x Attack boost to an already high base 140 attack.
Xerneas' Ability "Fairy Aura" Gives all its fairy moves a 1.33x Multiplier in power
God damn at this point just add the base 200 attacking stat regis
I hate how this thing is so broken, I don't play gen 9 because everything is overwhelmingly powerful with little defensive answers
Whoevers offense is better wins
Better hazards, stronger momentum wins. No mon can really stop the momentum
@@smogon3215 It just feels like defensive pivoting does not work again certain mons without specific interactions like flash fire
Lol Game freak stopped pretending they balance stuff for singles
The fact it isnt banned shows how trash smogon is thing was a problem day 1.
If released, guts boosted ursaluna with facade can outdamage chi-yu. Though it is up in the air how viable ursaluna can be.
With tera and those STAB at base it will be a slow sweeper
It would have to be guts choice band, a combination that he mentioned in this video
Trick Room, flame orb, facade, tera normal type will one hit ko everything lol
if you count glitches, in gen 3 thanks to the pomeg glitch, minimum HP max special attack kyogre holding mystic water using Water Spout with 65535 HP is the strongest no set up move in the series
you know that shit is messed up when we are comparing an actual mon with a glitch
@@gammaf1365 Tbh non glitched kyogre is still stronger
You know what's scary? Chi-Yu was about to have 145 Sp. Atk.
As in that's its stat in version 1.0 of the game just before release. Imagine if Gamefreak had just missed that and decided "eh, next gen" like they always do.
I think specs regieleki in electric terrain using rising voltage may be stronger but we all know you never have an opportunity to ever get this
The fish are fighting back
Bro, going from weakest Pocket Monster being a Magic Carp-like fish creature to the strongest being a gold-colored fish, what a comeback from Magic Carp-like fish creature
Fish Pokemon are getting stronger.. Barraskewda, Dracovish, Basculegion, Dondozo, Tatsugiri, Chi Yu..
vs Luvdisc, Seaking, Lumineon etc.
Cool video. Merry Christmas, dude!
Fantastic statistical analysis Freezai. I absolutely love these types of videos and you never fail to deliver. Thank you for the time you took to make this!
Too strong 🐠
how did you get here, get back to selling the merch
Appreciate the mention/discussion of technical cases like guts choice band conk as I find the theoretical more interesting in the large world of pokemon
One of the craziest theoretical setups involves Shuckle that can deal over 4 million damage in a single turn. There's probably a video about it somewhere.
I think Gorilla Tactics Darmanitan Galar is stronger, but you are always choice locked.
That's an effective 235 Base Attack, but its strongest attack is icicle crash who pales in comparison to Fire Blast.
I’ve been using chi-yu to great effect in the ace tournament with an amulet count. Spamming dark pulse always guarantees the knock out. Only Dendra’s hariyama, and penny’s umbreon and sylveon give it trouble and even then there both 2 hit ko
Xerneas, for exemple seems like a much more appropriate candidate than Rampardos, with comparable spatk stat and boosting ability, but with added bulk and one of the most dangerous setup moves in the game in geomancy.
Good old choice locked Kyogre too with better stab in Water Spout, coverage, bulk and team support capabilities.
Plus, Chi-yu's ability being versatile is kinda pointless because it is known to spam stabs anyway...
But still incredibly strong by the OU standards !
1:37 I like how there was all these ubers and megas here but then there's also just xuritree
This is the first generation where it wasn't a power creep it was a power jump. I think the ruin pokemon and certain paradox pokemon would be at home in ubers, but I don't know if they'll find their way there since we're just using other gen 9 pokemon to counter them, and pushed 70% of older pokemon out of OU.
The one Pokemon i can think of that rivals it's sheer power is Alolan-Marowak holding a Thick Bone, firing off base 110+ Stabs such as Flare Blitz and Poltergeist.
Marowak would be stronger than Chi yu if it wasn’t item locked, but it is, in fact because of the item lock it’s not even as strong as deoxy-A or Mega Ray
I think rather than stating if Chi-Yu is the strongest Pokemon, it's better to state that Chi-Yu is the strongest Pokemon unconditionally. Like you stated, something like Banded Guts Conkeldurr or Banded Fishious Rend Dracovish can be stronger, but the scenarios where that's happening are too inconsistent to really rely on.
And in that regard, I'd say that Miraidon is overall stronger. Electric is a really good offensive type, and many of the Pokemon who can somewhat reliably take Electro Drift probably don't want to be eating a Draco Meteor.
I think why he stated Chi-Yu is probably stronger than Miraidon is because electric attacks are walled by ground, and in order for Miraidon to reach specs chi-yu’s power it also needs choice specs. So while Miraidon can be completely walled if locked into Electro drift, Chi-yu is still hitting resists for absurd amounts of damage with just fire blast.
It isn't the strongest unconditionally. Reckless Staraptor hits harder
@@CC-kp7geBrother i commented on your other comment, your calcs are off and you didn’t calc in chi yu’s ability
@@CC-kp7geBrother i commented on your other comment, your calcs are off and you didn’t calc in chi yu’s ability
dracovish outspeeding isnt uncommon lmao, Everyone builds around that one move so of course they are gonna have support to make it go first, You people just love to yap all day.
Man, the paldea powercreep is insane.
I think you missed 2 mons: Mega Medicham and Mega Mawile due to huge power/Pure energy. The latter has an effective 259 attack stat. Still, Chi-Yu has an effective 319 Special attack with specs, even surpassing Medicham's High Jump Kick with Fire Blast despite the lower base power, although barely.
The strongest reliable special attack is still an specs water sprout from a modest Kyogre.
Very good point,however neither can run Items,while Chi-Yu can
@@hattruck8607 I made notice of that, but if Chi-Yu doesn't want to be locked then M-Medicham's kicks are stronger.
@@N12015 there are Stat boosting items that don't lock into one move
Life Orb for example and that one's not very situational like the others but yes if we talk about Chi Yu without items then your right
I wish tink could match that power
@@MrAnimeAMVmaker I'm talking about life orb. Life orb Fire Blast is oddly enough weaker than Medicham's HJK due to a lower base power. Even with specs Medicham is just 4.3% weaker... Oh, now that I think about it, regular Medicham hits harder with HJK, 5% stronger in fact.
I don't bring Mawile due to low base power moves, the only reason that thing never got banned in gen 7 btw.
Everything stronger until buffy Dondozo join the fight
Tbh I think there is one thing that should also be noted, this stat drop also helps your allies, just having Chi-Yu on your side of the field effectively boosts your ally's SpAtk by 1.33x aswell, for example Regidrago which has 100 SpAtk has the same effective Dmg output (though with +SpAtk Nature unlike ChiYu) when using a Dragon type move as Chi-Yu but having both out means Regidrago now effectively has an insane 656 SpAtk before accounting for items but with the downside that your ally Pokemon also takes 1.33x more dmg. I think this is an even more potent boon of Beads of Ruin, being able to not only buff itself but its allies always.
The craziest thing about all of this is the fact that this Chi-Yu is nerfed! In the day one patch of the game, some Pokemon got and lost moves and some got some stat changes. All the ruin Pokemon had 10 points removed from their BSTs. Chi-Yu got -10 for SpAtk. Yes, Chi-Yu had 145 SPECIAL ATTACK BACK THEN INSTEAD OF 135
Isnt chien pao the physical equivalent of Chi yu ? With its ability and moves like Crunch or Icicle Crash, it reaches same damage output as a Chi yu flamethrower
chi yu has a higher special attack then chien paos physical attack
Special attackers are all around better than physicall attackers so Chien-pao isn't as oppressive as Chi-yu is.
Also fire dark is better offensively than ice dark
Oh yeah my bad then i always thought they were "symmetrical" in terms of stats but i checked and yeah chien pao is slightly weaker but faster than chi yu
dondozo walls chien pao blissey can't even wall chi yu plus 100 speed is usually good enough to outspeed most non-scarfed pokemon speed above 100 is nice but not necessary plus chi yu can take hits from special attacks fine just get rid of the physical attackers and chi yu is basically unstoppable
I thought the part about Deoxys was wrong, but it turns out that after the Beads of Ruin ability, Chi-yu BARELY manages to beat Deoxys lol. That's legitimately insane.
chi yu will absolutely annihilate zu in gen 25 though
Chi-yu is literally Victini's choice band v-create but in special form
Would Kartana's Str Boosting Beast Boost count as a Boosting ability?
Yes, but it’s balanced by needing an activation trigger (a KO in its case). The ruin abilities are completely passive
That's one angry fish
Still can’t hold a candle to huge power helping hand boosted power tricked shuckle holding a choice band!
This man forgot both darmanitans.
Chi yu will be banned from gen 9 smogon ou within weeks I feel, but its defense and HP stat make it not too OP tho IMO
No mention of Power Trick Shuckle? Smh my head
C'mon, did you really forget both Darmanitan? Their damage output is absurd
this video: exists
me in pokemon showdown: one shots with my palafin/iron thorns/miraidon/ceruledge/annihilape/maushold
breloom gets an OHKO with machpunch
*Mfw I switch in any of the fighting resists to have ever existed
my man breloo
Just want to take this moment to thank my boy breloom for checking chi yu on most of my teams
The fact this thing isnt in ubers when its dealing MORE damage than some of the hardest hitters in that tier is absolutely criminal. Chi-yu is the reason i quit competetive for this generation, hoping smogon gets their shit together and bans it.
You're honestly being incredibly ignorant of effects on the team if using weather or terrain. Team boosting is an indirect measure of power/strength. Any quark drive pokemon is getting boosted by miraidon, same with swift swim for kyogre as well as chlorophyll/protosynthesis. That being said, it was already obvious that kyogre, groudon, miraidon, koraidon, and other powerful weather/terrain setters were gonna be better.
I think that they should unban fluttermane, palafaker, and delibird, because it starts to become a game of the next man down. If we ban chi yu, for sure chien pao is next. I think it should be a full threats meta as oppose to a limited threats meta.
the fuck? more things will be unusable if we let those overcentralizing mons take over the tier
...why do you think they were banned in the first place?
Palafin I can understand because it’s just a legendary Pokémon but I think that if mane and bird are unbanned i don’t think they would be banned again. Answers exist.
@@svennmivedor9191 There are only 2 switch-ins to Iron Bundle: Blissey and Hydro Pump missing.
@@StarfieldDisarray that’s not true, fluttermane and palafin were both checks if not counters
You didn't mention Regieleki with it's ability transistor, choice specs rising voltage in electric terrain which has the potential of doing more damage than Chi-Yu, despite it's special attack stat isn't as high
No cause I like stantler the best and the power of friendship is the most powerful thing in the universe
The Snack that smiles back'
Chi-Yu
you didnt mention bidoof ;-;
It's a forced meme.
I really liked the change of font!
Me when I'm a smol goldfish that has the ability to wreak havoc and create catastrophe by just being unsealed
This is not as much of a problem in VGC since it also affects your own Mon, so your opponent special attacks will also hit harder on chu Yu's partner
its banned in VGC, all the ruin mons are.
@@Oakwin_mb it's no banned, it wasn't added in this series yet, but will certainty be added in the future