"These urban legends are said to be the embodiment of human bitterness and suffering. They brought great ruin in their time." Me, a 10 year old trainer: Observe. 🐠🦌🐆🐌
I love how the stakes and the shrines glow in a color that represents a type that is super effective against the Pokemon its binding. Green = Grass for the Dark/Ground Ting-Lu Orange = Fire or Fighting for the Dark/Ice Chien-Pao Purple = Poison for the Dark/Grass Wo-Chien Blue = Water for the Dark/Fire Chi-Yu
The four cardinal directions in the game all have their own color (probably based on the color of the four lighthouses). The color green represents north, blue represents east, red represents south and yellow west. The four shrines are located in the north-west, north-east, south-west and south-east of the region. Each of them glows in the color that you'll get if you mix the two colors of its adjacent cardinal directions. So the south-eastern shrine glows purple (blue + red), the south-western shrine orange (red + yellow), the north-western one glows in a yellowish shade of green and the nort-eastern shrine glows cyan (green + blue).
My favorite is Wo-Chien. Snails in real life makes me Uncomfortable. But i can’t help but love Wo-Chien’s design and premise a big evil Snail that is a legendary.
I like how the story behind Ancient Paldea's greed driven king who led invasions on other lands for their treasures evokes a sense of reference to the historic Spanish Conquistadors who once plundered and colonized distant lands for land and wealth in the real world. It is also pretty much confirmed that these Ruinous Quartet Pokemon weren't native to Paldea and were brought in from a yet unnamed region in the Pokemon World. So... maybe in a future generation we'd get more information about the Quartet in their place of origin? Pokemon games are no strangers to foreshadowing and giving subtle hints about future installments.
The Chinese would like to point out that the Chien-Pao's shape is a reference to the tiger symbols of imperial China. The ancient emperor used an iron metal in the shape of a tiger to represent military power. This metal was usually half in the emperor's hand and half in the general's hand. When the emperor wanted to move his army, he gave his half to the emissary, and the general of the frontier could leave his station. Any action by a general leading his army without a tiger would be considered rebellion. So, the tiger is the symbol of the army.
Raifort has an eerie interest in them. It should be some sort of red flag that she knows the location of the seals, putting them on your map, and also the moment where she claims she could take care of them if you don't want them anymore. The teacher has more to do with those legendaries than we currently know... or it might just be huge morbid curiosity, but with her giving a Nasty Plot TM after you showed her you caught all of them is kinda sus
I didn't play the game and as such I don't know any of these details, but "A little Sus"?? That's almost basically an esplicit way of saying "I'm Up to no good" to me, like really.
2 things I have to say about these legendries. 1. We fight these things in a weakened state, being first defeated by the Pokemon wielders and then sealed in their shrines for thousands of years unable to move. If THIS is their weakened state, imagine how unimaginably powerful these monsters were when they first brought the king's castle to ruin. 2. A small theory I have is that the merchant that sold the king these cursed relics was a member of the Ginko Guild, possibly even being Ginter or Volo before the events of Legends Arceus. I am unsure when exactly Legends Arceus takes place but it is still plausible.
Legends of Arceus appeared to be around early 1900s Japan, which is likely still too late in the timeframe for that story. However, it is somewhat implied Volo might be immortal.
honestly these guys are now my favorite legendary set (not those in box arts but are related to each other, like the regis and the three beasts). Their designs are more unique and distinct to each other while still sharing the same theme (while most other legendary sets look identical to each other), and they have a background story that genuinely gives you chills. We do have "evil" legendaries that could destroy the world before but cursed treasures coming to life each with spot-on designs are really cool
Well these four would likely be under Yveltal's oversight only that they are specifically used as tools of retribution. In many ways they are the counterparts to the swords of justice. They also sound disturbingly similar to shadow pokemon and I suspect the Galarian Birds were formed in a similar fashion just without the need for an item to serve as a catalyst.
I don't think they serve under any other legendary or eve as counterparts. they're more like mewtwo or genesect. they aren't a part of the natural order, just the results of human hatred and malice
@@TheBigE9999 perhaps in how they came about but practically they kinda do. Both the members and types pair off quite well. Steel/fighting > ice/dark, rock/fighting > ground/dark, grass/fighting > grass/dark, and Water/fighting > fire/dark whom is also a water kirin facing a fire goldfish. The elements are reversed on the last one. Also the Swords of Justice are all about justice and protecting the innocent and the four disaters are all about causing ruin to everyone and everything. They really do pair off quite nicely. As for Yveltal it really is something that would probably develop. Yveltal's domain is death, destruction, and ruination and the four calamities are all about ruin so it makes sense that they would follow or herald the coming of Yveltal as it is the perfect excuse to bring ruin and destruction to everything in their path. It also just kinda works thematically and narratively.
By the way of Ting-Lu. ting and lu both have special meanings for China. ting is a bronze cast cauldron used to offer sacrifices to gods and ancestors, ancient emperors used ting to cook offerings to the gods.. After the emperor of China unified the China, he cast nine ting, which symbolized the nine regions under his rule. When the vassal wanted to challenge the emperor's rule, he would send an emissary to ask the emperor "How heavy are your nine ting?", which represented that he wanted to seize the ruling power of China. （问鼎天下） lu stands for milu deer. Ancient vassals compared the ruling power of the Central Plains to a deer, and their struggle for the ruling power was compared to a hunt. Whoever captured the deer in the hunt would be the new emperor. （逐鹿中原） "ting" combined with "lu" is an interesting symbol.
I like how Chi-Yu is almost almost a direct play to Chiyou, aka; the God of War that Qin Shi Huang worshipped, and Liu Bang before his battle against Xiang Yu. It does tease at the next region being related to China, which does have a history with the Four Fiends of Chaos.
Thanks so much for exploring these! My favorite aspect is how the relic themselves are the true Pokémon and uses their preferred element to craft a body. Ting-Lu might be my favorite, the cauldron in place of moose antlers is quite an interesting design choice, and I love its cry too. I like that you link them to the Four Perils, which I'm certain is a strong inspiration. Though it seems Wo-chien and Chi-yu don't quite line up as neatly to the remaining two beasts. Makes me think they're more original because of it.
It's interesting the choose of colors for these Pokémon, as they could loosely inspired by the colors of the Four Horsemen of Apocalypse: Black, Red, White and Pale (cadaveric green), which could correspond to Ting-Lu, Chi-Yu, Chien-Pao, Wo-Chien. Ting-Lu is the one who fits worse than the rest, as his color is more brown than black, but still is an interesting possibility
I knew when I saw that vessel poke it was a sacrificial bowl. The fear they talk about is the fear of the creature about to be sacrificed leaking into the bowl. Now, that's good dark lore!
You know, I wouldn’t be surprised if that merchant who gave those vessels were Volo himself, since the time doesn’t seem to be specified, and we do not know where he went after we defeated him…
that Kind of fits like After getting humbled he decided to redeem himself by Punishing the Evil and Greedy,thus he Tricked the King into Bringing destruction to his own Castle To Punish him.
@@hydrochloricacid7927 well I mean…considering is the World of Pokemon we’re talking about, There could be Some Reason Volo became inmortal or at least get a VERY expanded lifespan after his Failed Plan.
Scarlet and violet have failed on a lot of things, but the knocked it out of the park with this legendary quartet. We’ve lacked good legendaries with deep lore that weren’t tied to the story for a while.
@@kopfloserbeginn3879 I'm curious about this. Is this myth have similar lore or reference from outside pokemon? Like maybe a Chinese myth or Japanese myth that you know that might be the inspiration for the broken sword fang of chien-pao?
@@finxkazeryuu it's in the sinnoh library, a myth about a person who found a sword and used it to exploit pokémon till none showed them self anymore in the end they shatter sword whilst cursing the action they did
@@finxkazeryuu but sadly it's a ingame lore thing, I don't know if there are any outside myth references. I'm sorry if I disappointed you with this information
The fact that their names are VERY much Chinese while we're in a region not even close to China is giving me next gen will be based in China vibes. We still haven't seen where a few Pokemon introduced in earlier gens are native to so this could be major bread crumbs being dropped.
It's not the first time legendaries from one generation's region ended up being kept in another region from a preceding generation. Take the Regi Golems for example. Regigigas is based in Sinnoh, but it's components were sent and sealed all the way in the Hoenn region.
i was reading about the Ruin Quartet on Bulbapedia earlier and started to form my own personal theory that Gholdengo is a pokemon reincarnation of the King in the Ruin Quartet's lore. this theory may sound dumb, or maybe i'm reading way too into the story, but just hear me out: - this old wicked king was greedy and liked collecting treasures from other countries. It takes Gimmighoul 999 of its coins to evolve, if that doesn't sound greedy enough, and they're scattered all over paldea. (+ gimmighoul chests sometimes appear in *ruins* around paldea) - the king paid the merchant handsomely with golden coins - Gholdengo's dex entries in both scarlet and violet state that it's *made* of gold coins. - a possible inspiration for Gholdengo is El Dorado, a mythical KING who covered himself in GOLD. - Gholdengo is weak to ground, dark, ghost, and fire; everyone in the Quartet is primarily a dark type ( + Ting-Lu and Chi-Yu are ground and fire types respectively) -- on the flip side, Gholdengo's Good as Gold ability can counter the Quartet's "___ of Ruin" abilities. other evidence i found but think these don't make sense here: while the treasures of Ruin are all incarnations of different negative emotions, Gholdengo's scarlet dex entry states that it can easily befriend anyone, which in this case makes them the complete opposite of the whole quartet. Gholdengo is next to the Quartet in the pokedex. the ghost typing and surfer motifs on Gholdengo don't make sense in this theory so far, but these changes may be the result of (possible) reincarnation Gholdengo's Japanese name includes the phrase "fugo", which means "wealthy person", this could trace back to the El Dorado statement but i'm not really sure
Figured this out while watching another video, but yeah... "So the four treasures are the four sacred tools of calligraphy, hense the tablets used as a surface for writing, the bowl for ink, the beads are ink stone and the sword is the brush (the pen is mightier than the sword). That would explain their relationship to each other, but their dex entries explain the mountain of the Icerend Shrine having no snow (forming Chien-Po's body) causing the Asado Desert to become a waste land like Antarctica, the massive lake being a fissure (Ting-Lu dropping head), bamboo used to contain ashes like bamboo urns (Chi-yu sneezed), and the swamp north of the Grasswither shrine (because Wo-Chien did the suck suck)"
1:44- that sounds quite like in the Sonic the Hedgehog universe of Pachamacac (whatever his name is) and his greed for power and wanting the Master Emerald for such, triggering Chaos to transform into Perfect Chaos and destroy everything until Tikal had to seal the beast inside the Master Emerald. Furthermore, Chien-Pao is quite like the Snowstalker from the Future Is Wild, if Chien-Pao can be seen as a sort of feline wolverine.
These Pokemon are really neat. Love both the uniformity of the Pokemon and yet look so drastically different. Not to mention how the Pokémon are actually the relics themselves and their bodies are just an element to make an avatar out of. I think my favorite mystery is the king and the merchant. Because it was said that when the king saw these treasures, he “Made it rain gold coins over the merchant” or something similar. Which I say is VERY connected to Goldengo and its line. The fact it’s a greedy treasure box Pokemon and a man made of gold coins, that they are ghost types, and that they can just make the greed in people run rampant, I can see this Pokemon being related to the King or the Merchant in one way or another.
A theory I have is that Pokemon kinda wants to make a region based on China but can't because of...complications with China so instead they're making various Chinese based Pokemon like Urshifu and now the Treasures of Ruin
I hope the DLC adds more to the lore for this. Raifort having an interest in along with her dialogue and tm prize for finding them is too much of a sequel hook to leave alone.
Her behavior and interest in the treasures of ruin, history teacher Raifort, always bothered me for reasons unknown. Her being a descendant of the royal line of the king, who lost his kingdom and throne to his very greed could be a possible explanation. Especially as she definitely seems to have hidden ill intent involving them that wasn't elaborated upon clearly and definitely seemed to be of greed.
I saw that in somebody else’s video, a guy in the comment section had a theory that Chien-Pao might have been a reference to the sword from “Veilstone’s Myth” book/story in the Canalave library from Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. And after reading the story myself, I saw that he actually had a pretty good theory. Edit: Gonna be honest, the Scarlet Pokédex entry also kinda makes me think of the story (but only by a TINY bit)
It seems like the four ruin calamities will be a sneak peek to the next gen region being based on China. The main theme perhaps will be based on hunting and trading antiques artifacts.
Honestly having now caught them, and now watching them have a nice picnic. And having learned the lore These things are the equivalent of ancient Shadow Pokemon. They are corrupted of their true forms, so begs the question, where they always like this? Lastly as I was pulling the stakes and learning more of the history another thought struck me; I am not releasing a sealed curse unto the land. No I am releasing the curse on the land of having the "King's Folly" hidden away from the truth. I hope in time even of they never get a new form that our kind actions and the changed hearts of Paldea gives these bespoiled creatures new life.
The merchant was probably Volo, lol. Also, I'm suspecting 'the 3rd legendary' is actually the 5th relic of ruin... the reveal glass ends up being present day Enamorus... who has a shell... It's power is the ability to change a pokemon into its therian form... aka paradox form.
I'm starting to think the Merchant was Volo. As he seems way too in character to use Calamity for his own means( like going into the great crater and traveling to the time of Hisui).
I mean I feel like the fact that they hinted at a region based on China in Gen 8 with the introduction of Kubfu and Urshifu coming from a mountain in a distant land prior to this China inspired quartet from a merchant in the east...Gen 10 is China, but there's probably gonna be a lot of pushback from the government of China itself about its portrayal in that game.
Thats so cool 😯 now that I know there lore the designs looks so much better now or at least make sense. Chi-yu is the best out of the three 😆. The other three are big menacing looking while Chi-Yu is there all small and cute
Given how Team Star was a group of people that gain the Ire of others, had horrible rumors about and one of them is a Dark Trainer that was removed from power because of his tyrannical rules, you think they would have been a part of the Treasures of Ruin plot. Speaking of which I believe that the DLC coming soon should have been the Treasures of Ruin and Team Star instead of Team Star being so water down in the main line and the DLC having the 3rd Legendary that was suppose to be in the game but was cut to be DLC I also love the fact that in the HIstory class we DO see a chinese gate/palace in one of the pics on the right of the board hinting of a chinese region while next to it looks Aztec. The fact somewhere there is a kingdom that these pokemon were from and had this kind of history and power the mercent knew they gave the king them to get them out of their region ASAP or worst gave the king 4 Trojan Horses to make the kindgom weaker for the taking
Chi yu, i named Fira-Shi Ting-Lu i named Strataastag Chien Pao i named Hailynx Wo-Chien i named Autumsnail Im very proud of these names and can't think of these pokemon as anything other, my names have become cannon for me 😅
Fira being a fire spell and Shi can mean negligent and when said sounds a bit like fishy. Strataastag was inspired by strataa layers that can be seen on the pokemon and for being a Stag Hailynx simply portmanteau of Hail and lynx pretty obvious there. Autumsnail another simple portmanteau of autumnal and Snail
Could you try to explain the paradox Pokémon as a whole please? I’m fascinated by them because I think they are based on all things science fiction both in prehistory and the future.
I like the theory that the time machines are actually Pokemon creation machines and that they are just based on how the professors thought the Pokemon might look in the past and future
I think the sword treasure represents the animal called Saber-toothed that was in the ice age at that time, Plus represents the sword you were talking about...
Yes! It's so cute how it jumps up and down with happy! Easily my favorite new legendary and I often take it to the snowy peak which considering it's dex entry probably would be a bad thing but.. I love the snow areas in pokemon games and it's great to take pictures of my happy avalanche leopard there and train it. XD
Something interesting to point out for Chi-Yu, that all other Asian languages the name for it is the Jade Fish, as the eyes are made from jade, jade 玉 (Yu) in Chinese and 鱼 (Yu) both has the same spelling, In Japanese it’s called Iyui, Chinese Gu-Yu-Yu, Korean WiYui. Chi-Yu is the only one of the quartret that has no resemblance between it’s English name and other languages. Perhaps calling it Yu-Yu will be funny as heck 😂
I know that theyre the 4 perils, but i also see the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse Chien Pao = Death because it was formed from the hatred of those who died by the sword Chi Yu = War because the beads sparked many conflicts Wo Chien = Pestilence because it drains the life from fields Ting Lu = famine because its a broken empty bowl
I mean, the Lockstin channel does emphasize that many Pokemon legendaries also take from multiple mythologies and legends. Case in pt: Kalos trio taking from Norse and Indian mythologies.
@@deadlydingus1138 Honestly, the goldfish Chi-Yu is the most messed-up in terms of looks and visual design. I mean, the other three are still somewhat close to their original inspiration but Chi-Yu's is confusing and "chaotic." I guess that's the only justification for it.
I wish Wo-Chien was Bug/Dark.... I get that we got Lokix, but like it would just fit its stats so much batter, and it's a snail for God's sake. Plus it would help the type effectiveness between them all. Chien-Pao is 2x against Ting-Lu and Wo-Chien, Chi-Yu is 2x against Chien-Pao and Wo-Chien, Ting-Lu is 2x against Chi-Yu and 0.5x against Wo-Chien, and Wo-Chien is only 2x against Ting-Lu. Making Wo-Chien Bug/Dark would make it no longer resist Ting-Lu, have 2 its 2x against (CP and TL), and only remove Chien-Paos 2x which it'll struggle against anyway cause the attack thing. Although this does mess up the ruination abilities, since it no longer be lowering the opposing stat of its biggest threat.
My favorite is definitely Chi-yu... it's just a cute goldfish that happens to be made of fire I ended up finding all the stakes and altars myself (I didn't know that completing the history course tells you where the altars are) and Chi-yu was the first one I got
@@bryanwolfe6975 im not sure if this actually happen but in the game. During early paldea history there was a king who like to collect stuff. And he obtain some stuff from the east , like it said from the video. So I’m assume this place is base on china. And maybe indicating that china might be what their making next?
This region is based on Spain, and yet Kingambit and Tatsugiri are the most ostensibly Japanese things I've ever seen in Pokemon since Samurott. Kalos has pandas and a ninja frog. Alola has snow foxes. Hell, Kanto and Hoenn have friggin kangaroos, and half of Hoenn's legendaries are from Hebrew mythology. Every region's got some mons that inspiration-wise don't really belong with the place their native country is based on. Paldea is no different. At least these four were given an explanation as to why and how they're in Paldea.
@@bryanwolfe6975 these 4 pokemon were treasures bought by a king who loved collecting foreign treasures. After the rampage they were sealed away. They didn't originate from the region just this is where they became pokemon and got sealed
The Ruin Legendaries might be the closest thing we ever get to a Chinese Pokemon Region. Like a little wink that a China Region exists, but that we will likely never see it in gameplay (due to irl complications).
These guys caught me off guard when I first heard of them. Why would Pokemon with Chinese names be in a game set in the Spain-based land of Paldea? It's really interesting learning that they weren't originally from there and were simply brought over due to a greedy king
I think treasure is a thing that ruined the spanish empire as well. thought i think it’s more in the form of massive gold influx that caused high inflation in their economy
I love how they're object mons. A relic possesing some element in animal form. Chi Yu is some beads using a fireball in fish form Chein Pao is a sword using snow in leopard form Wo Chien is paper using leaves in snail form Ting Lu is a couldron using soil in deer form
Probably the Lore is connected to the next region, a region based in China. We could probably see a regional evolution of Magikarp that turns him into a dragon(branch evolution of Gyarados) after climbing a specific waterfall.
I love how they are both Anti-Tapus and Anti-Forces of Nature Ice Jaguar - Tapu bulu (Ice vs Grass), Thundarus (Force of Winter) Green Snail - Anti Tapu Fini (Grass vs Water), Enamorous (Force of Spring) Fire fish - Tapu Lele (Dark vs Ice, Fire Resists Fairy), Landorus (Force of Summer) Brown Moose - Anti Tapu Koko (Ground Vs. Electric), Landorus (Force of Summer).
Since there are 4 already that lower Attack, Defense, Sp. Attack and Sp. Defense. What if there was a fifth that lowered speed and what would it represent?
Im calling it now...in the anime namona will get chien-pao Penny will get wo-chien And arven...will get nothing cause the next anime will have two original protags
"These urban legends are said to be the embodiment of human bitterness and suffering. They brought great ruin in their time."
Me, a 10 year old trainer: Observe. 🐠🦌🐆🐌
Then use them to become a champion 🏆 🥇 🏅.
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Love how Chi-Yu is nothing but a goldfish yet brings mass destruction
Dope as hell
I mean, look at the East Province. Dude literally swam INSIDE solid rock and turned it into magma.
May chi Yu will have form like washiwashi
Sometimes the biggest surprises come in the smallest packages
It’s makes freaking Sea of Lava
I love how the stakes and the shrines glow in a color that represents a type that is super effective against the Pokemon its binding.
Green = Grass for the Dark/Ground Ting-Lu
Orange = Fire or Fighting for the Dark/Ice Chien-Pao
Purple = Poison for the Dark/Grass Wo-Chien
Blue = Water for the Dark/Fire Chi-Yu
Woah! That is now my head canon, if not actual canon. I love that idea
I guess it would make sense for the stakes made to seal away them to be made of the type they're weak against
Except the blue is light blue, that’s ice’s color not water.
The four cardinal directions in the game all have their own color (probably based on the color of the four lighthouses). The color green represents north, blue represents east, red represents south and yellow west.
The four shrines are located in the north-west, north-east, south-west and south-east of the region. Each of them glows in the color that you'll get if you mix the two colors of its adjacent cardinal directions. So the south-eastern shrine glows purple (blue + red), the south-western shrine orange (red + yellow), the north-western one glows in a yellowish shade of green and the nort-eastern shrine glows cyan (green + blue).
@@michaelhauser8897 woah that's a really cool detail
My favorite is Wo-Chien. Snails in real life makes me Uncomfortable. But i can’t help but love Wo-Chien’s design and premise a big evil Snail that is a legendary.
Evil don't exist
Imagine being in the woods at night and seeing that thing 🥲
Eat slugs!
Legit the Immortal snail
It’s honestly stupid and not intimidating at all. I think Trevant is a stronger looking villain poke
I like how the story behind Ancient Paldea's greed driven king who led invasions on other lands for their treasures evokes a sense of reference to the historic Spanish Conquistadors who once plundered and colonized distant lands for land and wealth in the real world.
It is also pretty much confirmed that these Ruinous Quartet Pokemon weren't native to Paldea and were brought in from a yet unnamed region in the Pokemon World. So... maybe in a future generation we'd get more information about the Quartet in their place of origin? Pokemon games are no strangers to foreshadowing and giving subtle hints about future installments.
Chinese region someday? Yes, that's almost inevitable, but there is going to be information on them
Nah, they clearly a chinese reference. Besides the UK and other countries did the same.
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But yeah we’re most likely going to see them in a future region which would be super cool
The Chinese would like to point out that the Chien-Pao's shape is a reference to the tiger symbols of imperial China. The ancient emperor used an iron metal in the shape of a tiger to represent military power. This metal was usually half in the emperor's hand and half in the general's hand. When the emperor wanted to move his army, he gave his half to the emissary, and the general of the frontier could leave his station. Any action by a general leading his army without a tiger would be considered rebellion.
So, the tiger is the symbol of the army.
. . . So it's not a snow ferret?
@@baimhakani The design is clearly a mix of several elements, and I think Snow Leopard is one of them.
I love learning new stuff. Thanks for sharing.
It’s great to learn more about West Taiwan. 😃
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Raifort has an eerie interest in them. It should be some sort of red flag that she knows the location of the seals, putting them on your map, and also the moment where she claims she could take care of them if you don't want them anymore. The teacher has more to do with those legendaries than we currently know... or it might just be huge morbid curiosity, but with her giving a Nasty Plot TM after you showed her you caught all of them is kinda sus
I didn't play the game and as such I don't know any of these details, but "A little Sus"?? That's almost basically an esplicit way of saying "I'm Up to no good" to me, like really.
2 things I have to say about these legendries.
1. We fight these things in a weakened state, being first defeated by the Pokemon wielders and then sealed in their shrines for thousands of years unable to move. If THIS is their weakened state, imagine how unimaginably powerful these monsters were when they first brought the king's castle to ruin.
2. A small theory I have is that the merchant that sold the king these cursed relics was a member of the Ginko Guild, possibly even being Ginter or Volo before the events of Legends Arceus. I am unsure when exactly Legends Arceus takes place but it is still plausible.
Legends of Arceus appeared to be around early 1900s Japan, which is likely still too late in the timeframe for that story. However, it is somewhat implied Volo might be immortal.
When I first heard of the ruinous quartet, I was like “ these guys sound like the four horsemen, and we practically opened the door for them.”
However we created a new seal and turned them to allies.
honestly these guys are now my favorite legendary set (not those in box arts but are related to each other, like the regis and the three beasts). Their designs are more unique and distinct to each other while still sharing the same theme (while most other legendary sets look identical to each other), and they have a background story that genuinely gives you chills. We do have "evil" legendaries that could destroy the world before but cursed treasures coming to life each with spot-on designs are really cool
One is a goldfish. How are tbese things unique?
Well these four would likely be under Yveltal's oversight only that they are specifically used as tools of retribution. In many ways they are the counterparts to the swords of justice. They also sound disturbingly similar to shadow pokemon and I suspect the Galarian Birds were formed in a similar fashion just without the need for an item to serve as a catalyst.
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I don't think they serve under any other legendary or eve as counterparts. they're more like mewtwo or genesect. they aren't a part of the natural order, just the results of human hatred and malice
@@TheBigE9999 perhaps in how they came about but practically they kinda do. Both the members and types pair off quite well. Steel/fighting > ice/dark, rock/fighting > ground/dark, grass/fighting > grass/dark, and Water/fighting > fire/dark whom is also a water kirin facing a fire goldfish. The elements are reversed on the last one. Also the Swords of Justice are all about justice and protecting the innocent and the four disaters are all about causing ruin to everyone and everything. They really do pair off quite nicely.
As for Yveltal it really is something that would probably develop. Yveltal's domain is death, destruction, and ruination and the four calamities are all about ruin so it makes sense that they would follow or herald the coming of Yveltal as it is the perfect excuse to bring ruin and destruction to everything in their path. It also just kinda works thematically and narratively.
@@andresmarrero8666 I agree
By the way of Ting-Lu.
ting and lu both have special meanings for China. ting is a bronze cast cauldron used to offer sacrifices to gods and ancestors, ancient emperors used ting to cook offerings to the gods.. After the emperor of China unified the China, he cast nine ting, which symbolized the nine regions under his rule. When the vassal wanted to challenge the emperor's rule, he would send an emissary to ask the emperor "How heavy are your nine ting?", which represented that he wanted to seize the ruling power of China. （问鼎天下）
lu stands for milu deer. Ancient vassals compared the ruling power of the Central Plains to a deer, and their struggle for the ruling power was compared to a hunt. Whoever captured the deer in the hunt would be the new emperor. （逐鹿中原）
"ting" combined with "lu" is an interesting symbol.
I like how Chi-Yu is almost almost a direct play to Chiyou, aka; the God of War that Qin Shi Huang worshipped, and Liu Bang before his battle against Xiang Yu.
It does tease at the next region being related to China, which does have a history with the Four Fiends of Chaos.
Thanks so much for exploring these! My favorite aspect is how the relic themselves are the true Pokémon and uses their preferred element to craft a body. Ting-Lu might be my favorite, the cauldron in place of moose antlers is quite an interesting design choice, and I love its cry too.
I like that you link them to the Four Perils, which I'm certain is a strong inspiration. Though it seems Wo-chien and Chi-yu don't quite line up as neatly to the remaining two beasts. Makes me think they're more original because of it.
It's interesting the choose of colors for these Pokémon, as they could loosely inspired by the colors of the Four Horsemen of Apocalypse: Black, Red, White and Pale (cadaveric green), which could correspond to Ting-Lu, Chi-Yu, Chien-Pao, Wo-Chien. Ting-Lu is the one who fits worse than the rest, as his color is more brown than black, but still is an interesting possibility
I mean, he is based on tao tie so...
I knew when I saw that vessel poke it was a sacrificial bowl. The fear they talk about is the fear of the creature about to be sacrificed leaking into the bowl. Now, that's good dark lore!
It'll be interesting seeing them as antagonists in a movie
didn’t even think of this initially but now I’m looking forward to it!
@@fluffypineapples589 imagine a fight beetwen them and the tapu
@@massimilianoreali4398that would be a problem since the tapu are not allowed in Gen 9
@@mlpfanboy1701 in a movie obviously
You know, I wouldn’t be surprised if that merchant who gave those vessels were Volo himself, since the time doesn’t seem to be specified, and we do not know where he went after we defeated him…
that Kind of fits like After getting humbled he decided to redeem himself by Punishing the Evil and Greedy,thus he Tricked the King into Bringing destruction to his own Castle To Punish him.
I'm pretty sure legends arceus takes place 200 years before dp
@@hydrochloricacid7927 well I mean…considering is the World of Pokemon we’re talking about, There could be Some Reason Volo became inmortal or at least get a VERY expanded lifespan after his Failed Plan.
@@justlad6080 yeah but...why? there's no pokemon that could help him live that long that he owns.
@@hydrochloricacid7927 Idk Maybe on a post-Story Journey he Met someone like Oh-Oh,Jirachi or even Xerneas.
Scarlet and violet have failed on a lot of things, but the knocked it out of the park with this legendary quartet. We’ve lacked good legendaries with deep lore that weren’t tied to the story for a while.
I love that you can just go catch them but their entire story and lore is shown in a completely optional school lesson and dialogue
"Failed on a lot of things." How so?
@@ZeldaSam1 1) games visuals are horrible out date
2) it's runs TERRIBLY on the switch
3) it's a bug infested nightmare
4)still no national Dex
@@trippersigs2248 Only mild frame rate drops with me. & that was uncommon @ Most frequent.
Except they are Chinese in a Spanish-based area, makes sense lol
Wo-Chien is my favourite but I love all four of them. The music that accompanies them is incredible
Finally someone who acknowledged Chien-Pao having Kamaitachi reference.
Sadly nobody acknowledged the fact that the broken sword for teeth is from the myth of the dude who slayed and threatened pokémon with it out of greed
@@kopfloserbeginn3879 I'm curious about this. Is this myth have similar lore or reference from outside pokemon? Like maybe a Chinese myth or Japanese myth that you know that might be the inspiration for the broken sword fang of chien-pao?
@@finxkazeryuu it's in the sinnoh library, a myth about a person who found a sword and used it to exploit pokémon till none showed them self anymore in the end they shatter sword whilst cursing the action they did
@@finxkazeryuu I literally hear/see nobody talk about the correlation between the myth and pokémon and it's driving me up the wall
@@finxkazeryuu but sadly it's a ingame lore thing, I don't know if there are any outside myth references.
I'm sorry if I disappointed you with this information
love these 4 ngl, very interesting and cool idea for legendary pokemon. I like all of them but my favorite has to be the bowl head ngl.
Basically "The Anti-Tapus".
4 objects. 4 totems.
All Dark-type. All Fairy-type.
A unique move that cuts health in half.
Composite names.
The fact that their names are VERY much Chinese while we're in a region not even close to China is giving me next gen will be based in China vibes. We still haven't seen where a few Pokemon introduced in earlier gens are native to so this could be major bread crumbs being dropped.
There are definitely lots of Chinese restaurants in the game. One gym leader seems to be a Chinese chef.
It's not the first time legendaries from one generation's region ended up being kept in another region from a preceding generation. Take the Regi Golems for example. Regigigas is based in Sinnoh, but it's components were sent and sealed all the way in the Hoenn region.
There are chinatowns in spain, paldea is based on spain
Kinda reminds me of the tapu squad. They aren't exactly evil.. they're just really big jerks and I think that's pretty cool!
the tapus protect their region though, these guys quite literally destroy it
i love the fish ones design sm. great vid btw
*this goldfish is on fire*
i was reading about the Ruin Quartet on Bulbapedia earlier and started to form my own personal theory that Gholdengo is a pokemon reincarnation of the King in the Ruin Quartet's lore. this theory may sound dumb, or maybe i'm reading way too into the story, but just hear me out:
- this old wicked king was greedy and liked collecting treasures from other countries. It takes Gimmighoul 999 of its coins to evolve, if that doesn't sound greedy enough, and they're scattered all over paldea. (+ gimmighoul chests sometimes appear in *ruins* around paldea)
- the king paid the merchant handsomely with golden coins - Gholdengo's dex entries in both scarlet and violet state that it's *made* of gold coins.
- a possible inspiration for Gholdengo is El Dorado, a mythical KING who covered himself in GOLD.
- Gholdengo is weak to ground, dark, ghost, and fire; everyone in the Quartet is primarily a dark type ( + Ting-Lu and Chi-Yu are ground and fire types respectively)
-- on the flip side, Gholdengo's Good as Gold ability can counter the Quartet's "___ of Ruin" abilities.
other evidence i found but think these don't make sense here:
while the treasures of Ruin are all incarnations of different negative emotions, Gholdengo's scarlet dex entry states that it can easily befriend anyone, which in this case makes them the complete opposite of the whole quartet.
Gholdengo is next to the Quartet in the pokedex.
the ghost typing and surfer motifs on Gholdengo don't make sense in this theory so far, but these changes may be the result of (possible) reincarnation
Gholdengo's Japanese name includes the phrase "fugo", which means "wealthy person", this could trace back to the El Dorado statement but i'm not really sure
Figured this out while watching another video, but yeah...
"So the four treasures are the four sacred tools of calligraphy, hense the tablets used as a surface for writing, the bowl for ink, the beads are ink stone and the sword is the brush (the pen is mightier than the sword). That would explain their relationship to each other, but their dex entries explain the mountain of the Icerend Shrine having no snow (forming Chien-Po's body) causing the Asado Desert to become a waste land like Antarctica, the massive lake being a fissure (Ting-Lu dropping head), bamboo used to contain ashes like bamboo urns (Chi-yu sneezed), and the swamp north of the Grasswither shrine (because Wo-Chien did the suck suck)"
"The fear poured into this ritual vessel". Dang, so ting-lu is a bowl they used for sacrifices/blood rituals. Very dark.
Pokemon: The Treasures of Ruin are the physical embodiment of human bitterness and suffering
Also Pokemon: One is a goldfish
Sun surface temperature goldfish inside my pocket baby
1:44- that sounds quite like in the Sonic the Hedgehog universe of Pachamacac (whatever his name is) and his greed for power and wanting the Master Emerald for such, triggering Chaos to transform into Perfect Chaos and destroy everything until Tikal had to seal the beast inside the Master Emerald.
Furthermore, Chien-Pao is quite like the Snowstalker from the Future Is Wild, if Chien-Pao can be seen as a sort of feline wolverine.
I say the merchant was Volo he was a member of the ginkgo merchants and had evil ambition for powerful pokemon.
These Pokemon are really neat. Love both the uniformity of the Pokemon and yet look so drastically different. Not to mention how the Pokémon are actually the relics themselves and their bodies are just an element to make an avatar out of.
I think my favorite mystery is the king and the merchant. Because it was said that when the king saw these treasures, he “Made it rain gold coins over the merchant” or something similar. Which I say is VERY connected to Goldengo and its line. The fact it’s a greedy treasure box Pokemon and a man made of gold coins, that they are ghost types, and that they can just make the greed in people run rampant, I can see this Pokemon being related to the King or the Merchant in one way or another.
A theory I have is that Pokemon kinda wants to make a region based on China but can't because of...complications with China so instead they're making various Chinese based Pokemon like Urshifu and now the Treasures of Ruin
I hope the DLC adds more to the lore for this. Raifort having an interest in along with her dialogue and tm prize for finding them is too much of a sequel hook to leave alone.
Honestly, I can’t wait to see the anime make a movie with this legendary quartet - because I can’t imagine them putting these four in the series.
The History teacher is like Cynthia studying legendary Pokémon
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Chi-Yu is my favorite out of the Quartet. It reminds me of my Goldfish named Andrew.
Her behavior and interest in the treasures of ruin, history teacher Raifort, always bothered me for reasons unknown. Her being a descendant of the royal line of the king, who lost his kingdom and throne to his very greed could be a possible explanation. Especially as she definitely seems to have hidden ill intent involving them that wasn't elaborated upon clearly and definitely seemed to be of greed.
Very informative! Still searching Paldea for the stakes but awesome to know the backstory! Also you sound like an off sounding Brian from family guy
As a Dark type fan I love this quartet
The fish made of fish that yells SPLASHY when it appears. Yes, very scary.
"I've come back in time to kill the Chi-Yu Trigger."
They could also be based on invasive foreign species. Eg Snails, Cats/Stoats/Weasels, Fish/Goldfish, Deer etc which are all invasive.
I saw that in somebody else’s video, a guy in the comment section had a theory that Chien-Pao might have been a reference to the sword from “Veilstone’s Myth” book/story in the Canalave library from Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. And after reading the story myself, I saw that he actually had a pretty good theory.
Edit: Gonna be honest, the Scarlet Pokédex entry also kinda makes me think of the story (but only by a TINY bit)
It seems like the four ruin calamities will be a sneak peek to the next gen region being based on China. The main theme perhaps will be based on hunting and trading antiques artifacts.
Me:this guy sound familiar
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Honestly having now caught them, and now watching them have a nice picnic.
And having learned the lore
These things are the equivalent of ancient Shadow Pokemon.
They are corrupted of their true forms, so begs the question, where they always like this?
Lastly as I was pulling the stakes and learning more of the history another thought struck me; I am not releasing a sealed curse unto the land.
No I am releasing the curse on the land of having the "King's Folly" hidden away from the truth.
I hope in time even of they never get a new form that our kind actions and the changed hearts of Paldea gives these bespoiled creatures new life.
I do like that gen 9 introduced four new demons
These legendaries are growing on me.
The goldfish and the weasel leopard are now two of my favorite pokemon designs ever.
4:00 I love how the PokéDex goes from cute and cuddly to this thing is demonic in a matter of seconds
The merchant was probably Volo, lol.
Also, I'm suspecting 'the 3rd legendary' is actually the 5th relic of ruin... the reveal glass ends up being present day Enamorus... who has a shell...
It's power is the ability to change a pokemon into its therian form... aka paradox form.
I'm starting to think the Merchant was Volo. As he seems way too in character to use Calamity for his own means( like going into the great crater and traveling to the time of Hisui).
I mean I feel like the fact that they hinted at a region based on China in Gen 8 with the introduction of Kubfu and Urshifu coming from a mountain in a distant land prior to this China inspired quartet from a merchant in the east...Gen 10 is China, but there's probably gonna be a lot of pushback from the government of China itself about its portrayal in that game.
1:13 what the hell is going on with that one bundle of hair
My favorite is chien-pao
Thats so cool 😯 now that I know there lore the designs looks so much better now or at least make sense. Chi-yu is the best out of the three 😆. The other three are big menacing looking while Chi-Yu is there all small and cute
Wow they are like the evil counter part of the tapu’s, with their lore and their Pokémon move
1:36 The Box!
I got Chi-Yu and had no regret calling it "Fire Fish"
Given how Team Star was a group of people that gain the Ire of others, had horrible rumors about and one of them is a Dark Trainer that was removed from power because of his tyrannical rules, you think they would have been a part of the Treasures of Ruin plot.
Speaking of which I believe that the DLC coming soon should have been the Treasures of Ruin and Team Star instead of Team Star being so water down in the main line and the DLC having the 3rd Legendary that was suppose to be in the game but was cut to be DLC
I also love the fact that in the HIstory class we DO see a chinese gate/palace in one of the pics on the right of the board hinting of a chinese region while next to it looks Aztec. The fact somewhere there is a kingdom that these pokemon were from and had this kind of history and power the mercent knew they gave the king them to get them out of their region ASAP or worst gave the king 4 Trojan Horses to make the kindgom weaker for the taking
Aztec huh....
Potential Mexico inspired region in the works?
The quartet theme sounds mostly arabian but with hints of Chinese so maybe.
Oh, the four forces of nature might be coming. Enamorus’ appearance suddenly makes sense.
Chi yu, i named Fira-Shi
Ting-Lu i named Strataastag
Chien Pao i named Hailynx
Wo-Chien i named Autumsnail
Im very proud of these names and can't think of these pokemon as anything other, my names have become cannon for me 😅
Fira being a fire spell and Shi can mean negligent and when said sounds a bit like fishy.
Strataastag was inspired by strataa layers that can be seen on the pokemon and for being a Stag
Hailynx simply portmanteau of Hail and lynx pretty obvious there.
Autumsnail another simple portmanteau of autumnal and Snail
Could you try to explain the paradox Pokémon as a whole please? I’m fascinated by them because I think they are based on all things science fiction both in prehistory and the future.
I like the theory that the time machines are actually Pokemon creation machines and that they are just based on how the professors thought the Pokemon might look in the past and future
@@professorkindred9533 and AI Sada/Turo would fly to pokemon creation machine? lol no
I laughed when history teacher after you catch them tells you thankfully you caught them so I wouldn’t have to because they’d bad luck lol
The merchant was totally Volo, literally no way it wasn’t volo.
Part of me thought they were based on the four horsemen of the apocalypse. It has its flaws, but they line up fairly well
I think calyrex fits the four horsemen better tbh
@@Yoshizuyuner Calyrex and his... two horses?
That actually sounds very fitting
I think the sword treasure represents the animal called Saber-toothed that was in the ice age at that time, Plus represents the sword you were talking about...
happy avalanche leopard is in my top 5 pokemon, i can wait to get ALL MERCH AVALIABLE.
Yes! It's so cute how it jumps up and down with happy! Easily my favorite new legendary and I often take it to the snowy peak which considering it's dex entry probably would be a bad thing but.. I love the snow areas in pokemon games and it's great to take pictures of my happy avalanche leopard there and train it. XD
When you think about it there (also) basically the pokemon equivalent of the four horsemen of the apocalypse
Something interesting to point out for Chi-Yu, that all other Asian languages the name for it is the Jade Fish, as the eyes are made from jade, jade 玉 (Yu) in Chinese and 鱼 (Yu) both has the same spelling, In Japanese it’s called Iyui, Chinese Gu-Yu-Yu, Korean WiYui. Chi-Yu is the only one of the quartret that has no resemblance between it’s English name and other languages. Perhaps calling it Yu-Yu will be funny as heck 😂
I know that theyre the 4 perils, but i also see the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse
Chien Pao = Death because it was formed from the hatred of those who died by the sword
Chi Yu = War because the beads sparked many conflicts
Wo Chien = Pestilence because it drains the life from fields
Ting Lu = famine because its a broken empty bowl
I mean, the Lockstin channel does emphasize that many Pokemon legendaries also take from multiple mythologies and legends. Case in pt: Kalos trio taking from Norse and Indian mythologies.
I don’t know why, but a goldfish being associated with war is hilarious to me.
@@deadlydingus1138 Honestly, the goldfish Chi-Yu is the most messed-up in terms of looks and visual design. I mean, the other three are still somewhat close to their original inspiration but Chi-Yu's is confusing and "chaotic." I guess that's the only justification for it.
I wish Wo-Chien was Bug/Dark.... I get that we got Lokix, but like it would just fit its stats so much batter, and it's a snail for God's sake.
Plus it would help the type effectiveness between them all. Chien-Pao is 2x against Ting-Lu and Wo-Chien, Chi-Yu is 2x against Chien-Pao and Wo-Chien, Ting-Lu is 2x against Chi-Yu and 0.5x against Wo-Chien, and Wo-Chien is only 2x against Ting-Lu.
Making Wo-Chien Bug/Dark would make it no longer resist Ting-Lu, have 2 its 2x against (CP and TL), and only remove Chien-Paos 2x which it'll struggle against anyway cause the attack thing.
Although this does mess up the ruination abilities, since it no longer be lowering the opposing stat of its biggest threat.
My favorite is definitely Chi-yu... it's just a cute goldfish that happens to be made of fire
I ended up finding all the stakes and altars myself (I didn't know that completing the history course tells you where the altars are) and Chi-yu was the first one I got
Finally i know why their name was Chinese like. I was so confuse because I thought this is base in spain.
The game is based on Spain 🇪🇸 I’m still confused on why there are Chinese Pokémon in this region!? 🤔
@@bryanwolfe6975 im not sure if this actually happen but in the game. During early paldea history there was a king who like to collect stuff. And he obtain some stuff from the east , like it said from the video. So I’m assume this place is base on china. And maybe indicating that china might be what their making next?
@@thederrlord1239 fucking finally. I'm sick of western based region already
This region is based on Spain, and yet Kingambit and Tatsugiri are the most ostensibly Japanese things I've ever seen in Pokemon since Samurott.
Kalos has pandas and a ninja frog. Alola has snow foxes. Hell, Kanto and Hoenn have friggin kangaroos, and half of Hoenn's legendaries are from Hebrew mythology. Every region's got some mons that inspiration-wise don't really belong with the place their native country is based on. Paldea is no different. At least these four were given an explanation as to why and how they're in Paldea.
@@bryanwolfe6975 these 4 pokemon were treasures bought by a king who loved collecting foreign treasures. After the rampage they were sealed away. They didn't originate from the region just this is where they became pokemon and got sealed
Wow such gaming?!
Hell yeah
The Ruin Legendaries might be the closest thing we ever get to a Chinese Pokemon Region. Like a little wink that a China Region exists, but that we will likely never see it in gameplay (due to irl complications).
That would be an awesome Legends Arceus like sequel one day
So a goldfish brings massive destruction
That's right :)
That explains why I went from having so much trouble catching Ting-Lu to just immediately knocking out Chien-Pao by accident
252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Overheat Chi-Yu in Harsh Sunlight
These guys caught me off guard when I first heard of them. Why would Pokemon with Chinese names be in a game set in the Spain-based land of Paldea?
It's really interesting learning that they weren't originally from there and were simply brought over due to a greedy king
Ruination is also like the tapus nature madness
I mean it's possible the merchant could have been Volo, who else would have been able to obtain such items?
They used to draw knights fighting snails in books in Europe.
Sorry, could you say that again? I was distracted by Raifort's hair twitching
I think treasure is a thing that ruined the spanish empire as well.
thought i think it’s more in the form of massive gold influx that caused high inflation in their economy
I wish they weren't shiny locked because all of them have amazing shines
I hope the shiny forms get added in some kinda tera raid event like the shiny zerarora event
It more than likely saved for a shiny event
I love how they're object mons. A relic possesing some element in animal form.
Chi Yu is some beads using a fireball in fish form
Chein Pao is a sword using snow in leopard form
Wo Chien is paper using leaves in snail form
Ting Lu is a couldron using soil in deer form
Probably the Lore is connected to the next region, a region based in China. We could probably see a regional evolution of Magikarp that turns him into a dragon(branch evolution of Gyarados) after climbing a specific waterfall.
I love how they are both Anti-Tapus and Anti-Forces of Nature
Ice Jaguar - Tapu bulu (Ice vs Grass), Thundarus (Force of Winter)
Green Snail - Anti Tapu Fini (Grass vs Water), Enamorous (Force of Spring)
Fire fish - Tapu Lele (Dark vs Ice, Fire Resists Fairy), Landorus (Force of Summer)
Brown Moose - Anti Tapu Koko (Ground Vs. Electric), Landorus (Force of Summer).
I have an idea that since there's four of them and related to China they might be related to the four perils
I love all four of these guys, but I think my favorites are the moose and the fish
Plot twist z is the merchant
Since there are 4 already that lower Attack, Defense, Sp. Attack and Sp. Defense. What if there was a fifth that lowered speed and what would it represent?
Did anyone else catch wo-chien and name them leshy
Love them all so much but Wo-Chein is my favorite
Im calling it now...in the anime namona will get chien-pao
Penny will get wo-chien
And arven...will get nothing cause the next anime will have two original protags