I can't tell you how much I appreciate your writing videos. I actually did creative writing at uni, but I feel I've learned more from watching you. The visuals probably help, but you explain everything so clearly. Thank you!
Watching these videos I feel like I'm in a lecture! But yes I understand completely, although I didn't study creative writing at uni, I studied music! Are you still writing?
One of the Most Inspiring way to tell A Story and to make it more suspenseful sometimes is the Frame Narrative. This is a complete audiovisual encyclopedia about this Writing process. Thousand Thanks StudioBinder for this Inspiring video!💯💯💯💯
I have written a psychological thriller that is a bookends frame narrative. This video is awesome! Studiobinder, you rock!! Keep up the great work making great informative videos on filmmaking!! 😊
I would love to see a video on Andrey Tarkovsky, Béla Tarr, Ingmar Bergman, Robert Bresson, Michelangelo Antonioni, or Kenji Mizoguchi. You have so much great content about the Hollywood tradition and it would be wonderful to see some videos about international artists!
Boomer here. Appreciated the obligatory inclusion of "Citizen Kane." Nearly 17 delightful, educational minutes went by and no mention of "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance," which I saw in the middle grades. The first film I can recall that bookended the storyline, which set up the question, "is it preferable to print the facts or the legend?" Should I give an honorable mention to George Pal's "The Time Machine?" BTW, loved this video. Be well.
Another well done lesson. I didn't know exactly what a frame narrative was but I am aware of the concept of the story within a story. For my novel, I had to use the "Interview with the Vampire" style to show the reader and the character doing the interview, the life of the protagonist. So here I used the framed narrative and to show when and where the story was taking place and returning to the "present", I used date and time markers. In film, the transitions have to be very direct and clear. And the narrator has to indicate when the nested story, or that segment, is complete. Thank you again StudioBinder for a great lesson!
@StudioBinder I thoroughly enjoy all of your videos and I rewatch them frequently. Maybe here is an idea for a next video: could you make a guide on how to properly shoot table scenes with more than two people sitting at it. I'm talking about like 4+ up to 8 maybe. How do you establish the position/location of each character and how to film and cut without losing the overview and orientation of who is talking to whom in a heated debate or when there is rapid back and forth cutting. Just an idea. Thank you
I love this because it's exactly what I've been studying for my 2nd Feature Film. Especially in love with the way Wes Anderson does it in The Grand Budapest Hotel. A grand story told along a line of different timelines.
One of the most genius framing devices/designing principles was in Disney’s Hercules. It took me ages to figure out that Hercules was literally a greek tragedy, the muses performing the choral pauses in the story. Genius.
I wrote a Framed Narrative without knowing there was a name for it, for my short-film The Black Cat. With this vid I now understand it better. Thanks StudioBinder. Cheers 😁
Great video. 1 concept which I think is missed here, is that nested stories can also help suspension of disbelief. When the transition happens from the nested narrative to the characters experiencing the story in the main narrative, it's like snapping back to reality. Except, it's not reality, it's still the main narrative. But it FEELS more real, since it's more real than then nested narrative that you just experienced along with the characters.
10:35 How would you go between a frame narrative and the story being told in a novel? Maybe the story being told could be more of a diary, with the date written out? Any other ideas? I would like to write in past tense 1st person in both cases...
Thank you. I’ve been looking for a video about this (I’ve been looking under “open loops” to no end) for years. My favorite one is used in the HBO series Watchmen: Episode 3. Lori Blake (aka Silk Specter) is introduced, and during the episode she is telling us a joke, which is narration during transition scenes.
As always, awesome video, very informative and incite full But I can honestly say I have never heard the same person say the word 'story' so many times in such little time
Hey anyone from Studio binder, I don't know where else I could give out some feedback but this is the best I got. I'm currently at the site, I was beginning to get ready to write a draft however the option to write a new script is not there. I checked the notes. the option is there. for that the AV scripts also has that option but for some reason the new script option is not there anymore on the screenplay section. all I see is just "view type", "select all", there's the search bar, the amounts of screenplays I've written, and that's it that's all I see here aside from anything outside of what I'm seeing from the UI. So yeah, really, I'm just trying to write a new screenplay but the option to start a new screenplay is no longer there.
stunning video about frame narratives... although it is missing the mother of all ' 1001 nights ' the movie from Pasolini should have been included. in the chinese school of painting it is impossible to represent reality, thus the chinese painter selects bits and pieces of the reality to evoke the larger reality. in the same manner it is impossible to relay all events, feelings and emotions of an experience, so, cuting out bits and pieces to tell is the only possible way to transmit beyond own perception to others what the memory is capable of recollecting from the life experience - or the intuition of the reality. even if, alas, academics read the information only.
We've covered Unreliable Narrators elsewhere. Here in the Red Herring video: th-cam.com/video/47ntBElzaWk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sp-DcwUOU2Ej12nT And here in the Rashomon Effect video: th-cam.com/video/M33BC3ZLFG4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=m9G6WaKU0mkuNOD6
You missed the whodoneit angle, where holes in events are explained, usually by a detective, while being replayed, like in some episodes in later seasons of Midsomer Murders or the film Clue. Perhaps, this does not qualify though.🤔
Well, we have Directing Styles: th-cam.com/play/PLEzQZpmbzckUl3P1gqpM5Awa9U-CxdhVy.html&si=hxrGQ_RugEzLAsnf And Director's Playbook: th-cam.com/play/PLEzQZpmbzckWr3rtbgNXgWEIqviKid_jU.html&si=OY6SpRg8Vma6MDq8
Idk, this was a little hard to follow for me. It was like a narrative, within a narrative, calling back a narrative schema. I'm visual, so I'd need pictures and charts more for this. Those brackets with colored lines didn't help me because it referenced auditory information, so having a visual aid referencing something that I can't understand still isn't effective... even with one of my degrees (BA) in Engrish Writing (sic). This was mostly satire, but at the same time, with all this help free online, I still don't see how Lesyle Headland didn't get any better from _Russian Doll_ to _The Acolyte_ where she was the writer claiming credit when her 2 lady coven did all the work. There is an actual line of dialogue in _Russian Doll_ that says, "The power of two..." I laughed and laughed. This part is not satire: Have you considered showing how to do things in cinema, by using examples how not to do it? I've noticed as I got gud at something, the process involved running out of mistakes to make... so presenting what works does a half arsed job, imo.
Thanks for the feedback! And we don't typically like to include "what not to do examples," because making movies is hard and we want to take a more positive, constructive approach. Unless it's The Room, which we take shots at all the time! Haha.
As much as I want a video on the storytelling in games. I'm also aware that movies and video games are 2 completely different mediums, so it wouldn't work.
I prefer heroes personally, but my mouth most of the time is too small to get a good bite, which confuses me cause many times many ppl have told me I have a big mouth.
It's true that narration is often looked down upon as a device because you're usually "telling" and not "showing." But, like any writing "rules," it's all about how you use the device. And, you're right, while narration might be a dirty word among writers, audiences like yourself actually appreciate it!
Stop confusing the jargon "frame narrative nonsense". - The old terms are simply, multi-plot, episodic, self-reflective genre or simply a secondary plot that serves as a thematic device rather than the primary plot. Those opening are called bookend, flashback or Narrative openings (bookends and flashbacks should always be avoided). The name "Frame Narrative" more accurately describes mise-en-scene, subtext via production design and semiotics. Not a multi-plot or thematic episodic structure that you are suggesting.
This channel is more useful than university
Aww, thanks for that. You're making us blush 😊
@@StudioBinderhe's right
Studio binder is single-handedly teaching me how to be a Director.
Definitely I love this channel since I found it a couple years ago😊
True. I made three short films.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your writing videos. I actually did creative writing at uni, but I feel I've learned more from watching you. The visuals probably help, but you explain everything so clearly. Thank you!
Watching these videos I feel like I'm in a lecture!
But yes I understand completely, although I didn't study creative writing at uni, I studied music!
Are you still writing?
You're very welcome! It's helps us to know that we're doing something valuable for people.
@@y_fam_goeglyd every Cine Uni can gain by recommending StudioBinder
Bravo for mentioning the grossly underappreciated and under-discussed masterpiece "The Fall" by Tarsem!
Such a great film and no one talks about it!
As an upcoming filmmaker, watching stubiobinders videos is no longer a to do list but a reflex action type of thing
Thanks for that! We appreciate the support.
Watching videos is an upcoming filmmaker?
One of the Most Inspiring way to tell A Story and to make it more suspenseful sometimes is the Frame Narrative. This is a complete audiovisual encyclopedia about this Writing process. Thousand Thanks StudioBinder for this Inspiring video!💯💯💯💯
Thank you, sir!
Most good directors will take acting classes or courses...great ones will find this channel...😉😋
Leslye Headland obviously hasn't found this channel yet. Hubris I guess.
That’s a joke right
@@Menapho Spoilers: politics is acting for ugly ppl. You know that, right? Wait, I misread directors as dictators... must be given recent events...
Thanks for saying so. We try hard to share knowledge with our viewers.
I find the actor as a director does not know anything about visuals. I think they are better suited to plays.
I have written a psychological thriller that is a bookends frame narrative. This video is awesome! Studiobinder, you rock!! Keep up the great work making great informative videos on filmmaking!! 😊
Thanks! Will do.
I would love to see a video on Andrey Tarkovsky, Béla Tarr, Ingmar Bergman, Robert Bresson, Michelangelo Antonioni, or Kenji Mizoguchi. You have so much great content about the Hollywood tradition and it would be wonderful to see some videos about international artists!
Great suggestions! Be on the lookout for Tarkovsky soon-ish :)
A famous Director was quoted: "Didn't go to film school but I watch Studiobinder everyday."
Who said that?
Boomer here. Appreciated the obligatory inclusion of "Citizen Kane." Nearly 17 delightful, educational minutes went by and no mention of "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance," which I saw in the middle grades. The first film I can recall that bookended the storyline, which set up the question, "is it preferable to print the facts or the legend?" Should I give an honorable mention to George Pal's "The Time Machine?"
BTW, loved this video.
Be well.
Another well done lesson. I didn't know exactly what a frame narrative was but I am aware of the concept of the story within a story. For my novel, I had to use the "Interview with the Vampire" style to show the reader and the character doing the interview, the life of the protagonist. So here I used the framed narrative and to show when and where the story was taking place and returning to the "present", I used date and time markers. In film, the transitions have to be very direct and clear. And the narrator has to indicate when the nested story, or that segment, is complete. Thank you again StudioBinder for a great lesson!
Thanks so much! And we love Interview with a Vampire.
@StudioBinder I thoroughly enjoy all of your videos and I rewatch them frequently. Maybe here is an idea for a next video: could you make a guide on how to properly shoot table scenes with more than two people sitting at it. I'm talking about like 4+ up to 8 maybe. How do you establish the position/location of each character and how to film and cut without losing the overview and orientation of who is talking to whom in a heated debate or when there is rapid back and forth cutting.
Just an idea.
Thank you
I love this because it's exactly what I've been studying for my 2nd Feature Film. Especially in love with the way Wes Anderson does it in The Grand Budapest Hotel. A grand story told along a line of different timelines.
One of the most genius framing devices/designing principles was in Disney’s Hercules.
It took me ages to figure out that Hercules was literally a greek tragedy, the muses performing the choral pauses in the story. Genius.
Great example!
I wrote a Framed Narrative without knowing there was a name for it, for my short-film The Black Cat.
With this vid I now understand it better.
Thanks StudioBinder.
Cheers 😁
Thanks for watching! To be honest, we're learning about this stuff just as much as you.
I have been trying to figure out what this device is called literally for years. Thank you, StudioBinder. Lol
You're welcome!
That intro is dope.... because it all began on a darrrk night....
Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to a story within a story.
Our editors are the best!
Great video.
1 concept which I think is missed here, is that nested stories can also help suspension of disbelief. When the transition happens from the nested narrative to the characters experiencing the story in the main narrative, it's like snapping back to reality. Except, it's not reality, it's still the main narrative. But it FEELS more real, since it's more real than then nested narrative that you just experienced along with the characters.
That's an interesting point! Thanks for sharing.
10:35 How would you go between a frame narrative and the story being told in a novel? Maybe the story being told could be more of a diary, with the date written out? Any other ideas? I would like to write in past tense 1st person in both cases...
Your writer is sensational! Thank you.
Wow, thank you!
Thank you. I’ve been looking for a video about this (I’ve been looking under “open loops” to no end) for years. My favorite one is used in the HBO series Watchmen: Episode 3. Lori Blake (aka Silk Specter) is introduced, and during the episode she is telling us a joke, which is narration during transition scenes.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video!
Interview with the Vampire is another great example
We agree!
This is the type of videos I've been looking for!
Brilliant thank you @Studiobinder 🙏❤️
Love it! Keep it coming. Video on Plot Holes maybe?
Oh, that's a good one! We'll add it to the list.
nices video, I think all this has a great influence from the book Arabian Nights which uses this narration system.
You're right! That's one of the classic texts to employ this structure.
amazing content. life changing educational.videos for creative writers.
Thanks for that. Happy to hear you liked it!
Excellent video, one of your best.
Wow, thanks! We definitely try to top ourselves every time.
I saw the tv glow mentioned!!!
i [continue to] love you guys
I love you, guys! ❤
08:45 storyline reminds me of the movie Shutter Island with Leonardo DiCaprio.
Could you include the movie references in the description
As always, awesome video, very informative and incite full
But I can honestly say I have never heard the same person say the word 'story' so many times in such little time
Thanks!
Hey anyone from Studio binder, I don't know where else I could give out some feedback but this is the best I got.
I'm currently at the site, I was beginning to get ready to write a draft however the option to write a new script is not there. I checked the notes. the option is there. for that the AV scripts also has that option but for some reason the new script option is not there anymore on the screenplay section. all I see is just "view type", "select all", there's the search bar, the amounts of screenplays I've written, and that's it that's all I see here aside from anything outside of what I'm seeing from the UI.
So yeah, really, I'm just trying to write a new screenplay but the option to start a new screenplay is no longer there.
Book of the new sun! Perfect literary example
make a video on Cloud Atlas please
Great idea. I think we have to!
Thank you❤🙏 🥰
I loved nocturnal animals ❤❤
Same!
Check out Vaaranam Aayiram(2008), It's a Tamil film that executed this narrative very well.
stunning video about frame narratives... although it is missing the mother of all ' 1001 nights '
the movie from Pasolini should have been included.
in the chinese school of painting it is impossible to represent reality, thus the chinese painter selects bits and pieces of the reality to evoke the larger reality. in the same manner it is impossible to relay all events, feelings and emotions of an experience, so, cuting out bits and pieces to tell is the only possible way to transmit beyond own perception to others what the memory is capable of recollecting from the life experience - or the intuition of the reality.
even if, alas, academics read the information only.
can anyone please name the movie at 1:12. thank you
The princess bride
Not necessarily a movie but does the pirate comic story from Watchmen count?
Great video.
Thanks!
Cloud Atlas baby!
How about flashback and flashforward.
thank you soo much
You're welcome!
Please talk about Unreliable narrator and producer notes...
We've covered Unreliable Narrators elsewhere. Here in the Red Herring video: th-cam.com/video/47ntBElzaWk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sp-DcwUOU2Ej12nT
And here in the Rashomon Effect video: th-cam.com/video/M33BC3ZLFG4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=m9G6WaKU0mkuNOD6
Cloud Atlas ❤❤❤❤❤
Totally! Very effective example.
Can you guys talk about peripeteia next please?
That's a great idea! It's on our list actually.
Love it
♥
You missed the whodoneit angle, where holes in events are explained, usually by a detective, while being replayed, like in some episodes in later seasons of Midsomer Murders or the film Clue. Perhaps, this does not qualify though.🤔
Thanks for the feedback! That might have been something to explore.
Great film school ever...
please make a director's playlist
Well, we have Directing Styles: th-cam.com/play/PLEzQZpmbzckUl3P1gqpM5Awa9U-CxdhVy.html&si=hxrGQ_RugEzLAsnf
And Director's Playbook: th-cam.com/play/PLEzQZpmbzckWr3rtbgNXgWEIqviKid_jU.html&si=OY6SpRg8Vma6MDq8
Please don't forget to review leap the animation movie
Thanks for the suggestion!
Never been this early!
Welcome, early bird!
Would the book House of Leaves be considered a sandwich narrative?
Hmm, we haven't read that one but from the description it sounds like there are many layers to it. Anyone else read it and can answer this?
part 2 ?
No Part 2 for this one. Hopefully we covered everything here but if we missed something, let us know!
Idk, this was a little hard to follow for me. It was like a narrative, within a narrative, calling back a narrative schema. I'm visual, so I'd need pictures and charts more for this. Those brackets with colored lines didn't help me because it referenced auditory information, so having a visual aid referencing something that I can't understand still isn't effective... even with one of my degrees (BA) in Engrish Writing (sic).
This was mostly satire, but at the same time, with all this help free online, I still don't see how Lesyle Headland didn't get any better from _Russian Doll_ to _The Acolyte_ where she was the writer claiming credit when her 2 lady coven did all the work. There is an actual line of dialogue in _Russian Doll_ that says, "The power of two..." I laughed and laughed.
This part is not satire: Have you considered showing how to do things in cinema, by using examples how not to do it? I've noticed as I got gud at something, the process involved running out of mistakes to make... so presenting what works does a half arsed job, imo.
Thanks for the feedback! And we don't typically like to include "what not to do examples," because making movies is hard and we want to take a more positive, constructive approach. Unless it's The Room, which we take shots at all the time! Haha.
As much as I want a video on the storytelling in games.
I'm also aware that movies and video games are 2 completely different mediums, so it wouldn't work.
That would be a very interesting topic and keep your fingers crossed. We might get to it one day!
@@StudioBinder ooohhh. Now I'm hoping more now.
Congruency is such a loaded word, you should have used a less fancy word with fewer meanings :)
Thanks for the feedback!
I read "freaky narrative" I'm cooked.
👌👌
🙏
Dewy Cox has to think about his whole life before he goes on stage.
I am fond of sandwiches.
I think they are overrated.
I prefer heroes personally, but my mouth most of the time is too small to get a good bite, which confuses me cause many times many ppl have told me I have a big mouth.
We should do a video on sandwiches. "What is...a Sandwich?"
Then you see civilian crtics like cinema sins and his critic's...who always complain about narration as if it's not just a thing we like
It's true that narration is often looked down upon as a device because you're usually "telling" and not "showing." But, like any writing "rules," it's all about how you use the device. And, you're right, while narration might be a dirty word among writers, audiences like yourself actually appreciate it!
@@StudioBinder a million subs and you still take the time out for everyone. Thank you so much.
Stop confusing the jargon "frame narrative nonsense". - The old terms are simply, multi-plot, episodic, self-reflective genre or simply a secondary plot that serves as a thematic device rather than the primary plot. Those opening are called bookend, flashback or Narrative openings (bookends and flashbacks should always be avoided). The name "Frame Narrative" more accurately describes mise-en-scene, subtext via production design and semiotics. Not a multi-plot or thematic episodic structure that you are suggesting.
Thanks for the feedback!
@@StudioBinder Sorry for the rant. But this is getting very annoying. People making up their own terminology and confuse the hell out of writers.
First
Imagine saying "First" instead of "4 views in 1 minute, you fell off"
Why?
Not even a big deal. 😂
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