Here in Canada we've been having controlled burns for a long time to prevent MASSIVE forest fires. Then we stopped doing that and we got the exact same thing California did when they stopped their controlled burns. It's a lack of proper management and forest keeping.
Yep. Stopping logging had something to do with it, too. Loggers tend to clear away a lot of underbrush and that combined with controlled burns lowers the chance of something like this happening.
To the people that are confused why they stayed in the house with the dog, they have a forest fire suppression system that creates a mist bubble around the house while keeping the house soaked in water. You can see it running down the windows. What is scary is how dry those windows are considering it probably has 500-1500gal a min running through the system. Update: They survived.
They started to run out-of water because of the sheer amount the firefighters needed to try and stop it which ultimately obviously failed. The water pressure dropped so much the hydrants stopped working as well.
Newsom didn’t clear the brush when he should have. The mayor of LA cut $18M in fire department budget and is currently hanging out in Africa. And the DEI fire chief of LA is focused on hiring more women for the fire department to level the playing field vs men. Things are fine, until they’re not.
@@TheDarkLasombra Doesn't really matter. I lived in California for 20 years and watched them cut the fire prevention budget over and over and over again. It's all intentional. They launder the federal aid money they get from these disasters and then partner with the rebuilding companies and double dip.
Firefighter from Australia here; As a Firefighter in a Bushfire Brigade Western Australia, we do this thing called "back burning" where the months leading up to summer (fire season) we burn land with heavy and dense fuel loads that has built up on the surface of already high fire threat areas. It's a controlled burn that doesn't allow the flame to stand, it practically just crawls slowly across the surface area. If there is anything like tall trees, infrastructure or other things of value or potential tall fuel source with ladder fuels, we cut line around it from its base to 1-1.5meters away and then commence the burn. This reduces the potential intensity of a fire bringing it under control much easier and faster, containment really quickly and greatly reduces the chances of lightning strikes igniting a spot fire or man-made ignition through vehicle movement, hot-works such as welding or grinding (anything that generates high heats and/or sparks, or even just a simple cigarette out the window. The forrests in LA could have small areas burnt off the surface (so fallen leaves, fallen trees, small dead bushes) or anything that has accumulated over time on the surface and could have prevented this from ever happening. I'll tell you the science behind fires and slopes. For every 10° of incline, the rate of spread (R.O.S.) of a fire doubles. So a hill at a 40° incline where the fire at the base and the fire R.O.S. at 5 meters per minute. That 40° slope is 5m x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 (5m - 10m - 20m - 40m - 80m, it becomes now 80 meters per minute. What makes that worse is fire creates convection which is it generates its own intense winds where hot air rises up and the hotter and bigger and intense the fire, the stronger those winds become carrying embers throwing them kilometres away ahead of the fire or to the side starting new big fires. So you might have a head fire 2kms wide that's burnt along now with a 15km Flank, wind changes now your Flank is 2kms long and your head fire is 15kms wide. With what I said about every 10° of incline the rate of spread doubles, same is said about a decline. For every 10° of decline the rate of spread halves..unless the winds are so strong and ember attack too, the fire will hit the crest of that incline and just keep going at the same pace down the hill. The winds will just have the fire standing sideways just roaring down that tree canopy dropping burning branches onto the surface and continue burning in the canopy and surface throwing embers ahead creating junctions with even greater intensity and it's just unbelievable. The 2009 black Saturday fires in Victoria Australia this happened to us. The fire and smoke generated its own weather system creating "pyro-cumulonimbus" clouds generating its own dry lightning storm creating countless more small fires that grew and joined, starting fires ahead of the main fire making any progress in containment at the head irrelevant, it even created its own tornado. What I'm trying to say is as a nation always on fire, we have the science in what works for fires literally trial by fire. The results speak for itself with back burning, containment becomes a lot easier and requires less water and resources in the event of a fire starting.
Hi i grew up in midvale and swan view. 1994-2014. I witnessed those controlled yearly burns, you sound very knowledable and thanks for your service. Around 2010 water bomber planes prevented a fire that was spreading just 200meters from my home. Incredible sight seeing the acrobatics of the pilots.
The warning was the insurance companies leaving... they would only leave if the risks were higher than the profits. When a multibillion dollar corporation decides to no longer take your money there is a huge problem.
@@esquire9445 It's the same in Florida. Insane that 2 of the most populated states in the US, insurances are almost non-existent there. And yet people keep continuing to move to these places.
Do you have any idea on what scale these fires are? They failed at preventing them, noone has enough water to deal with this, just one of the fires is over 80 fucking square kilometers
Clumping California with the usa is crazy lol. California is the worst ran state in the USA and it's not even close. This wouodnt be a problem in any other state.
Considering the scale of the fires here in Australia, millions of square kilometres. We had cities of 50000 cut off and surrounded, including mine. There was no choice but to mobilise the military and have them drop water bombs and evacuate citizens. Why can't the vast US cargo fleet do the same as our meagre set?
Two main things cause this, a lack of controlled burns and not introducing Beavers into the ecosystem. Fun fact, Beavers are natures best fire fighters.
Fun fact, back before California was settled the natives would set forests on fire and then migrate away during certain seasons because they understood the importance of maintaining the forest. If you go look at the sequoias in central California you can see burns and scorches into the trees from fires like this. Not only do those trees last through the fires, but they actually need fire to germinate seeds. But all we see now is "fire bad, dont hurt trees."
Big oaks too. Most of those huge, tough trees are that way to survive a fire and then get first pick of the newly fertilized ground that's clear of smaller plants.
First part of your statement is accurate, the 2nd part not so much. There are plenty of areas/states that do practice controlled burns. Maybe not that part of California, which goes towards what that man being interviewed was talking about. There are going to be some tough questions asked when this is over about what the state/county was doing to control the underbrush in these areas.
fun fact: statefarm cancelled *specifically* fire insurance policies for *thousands* of people in *specifically* this *exact* area in California just two months ago, same thing in maui, couple months before the fires they cancelled people's insurance policies that they specifically got for that specific scenario oh and then you combine that with the fact that at the exact same time they cancelled all those insurance policies, the Mayor of LA cut almost 20 million in funding to the fire department, then to go EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT, they put a policy in place where they basically gimped the water levels in all of california's reservoirs because they wanted to save some "native fish" from endangerment because apparently the water was "too deep" for them to effectively propagate.
The heavy machine isn't holding W because the grip levels from the metal tracks on the concrete slip after so much weight (friction coefficiant). If it was on clay or a more grippy surface it could probably use it's full potential. Alot of that screeching sound is the tracks slipping on the concrete.
The goal of the truck is not to pile-up cars and push them down the road. You can see he is pushing them aside to clear a lane. Eventually if you just hold W you end up with 30+ cars in front of the truck a weight it can't push.
@kylemenos the initial comment is referring to the reason behind the machines seemingly erratic driving maneuvers, not what he was attempting to accomplish. What you said is already obvious.
@@danberger3832 No dude. Literally he is only talking about ploughing straight in vehicles by only traveling one direction which is W in video games WASD control.
Weird how the mayor of hawaii was gone when they had their fires too. Pretty sure they didn't have water either, and then that company came in trying to buy up the land.
@@TheeSilentObserverz There's no city water. Sprayers are useless not only because no water but the heat generated here would evaporate the water as it came out of the sprayer.
@@-youngishthis IS the case of unmanaged forest. What do you think happens to a patch of greeneries when you leave it alone? They spread out their roots. Thus, it's called Unmanaged Forest. "It's in the middle of the city!" Bruh, it DOESN'T MATTER where, mismanagement of a tree park or a forestry is STILL called Unmanaged Forest case. Look at how many acres got burned. That's not a "tree park" level of forestry.
@@-youngish forestry management includes management of brush in wooded areas in residential areas. Ya see those hills in the videos? Yeah, those are in the middle of the residential areas.
@@-youngish You should look into the meaning of things before commenting so arrogantly. "God bless, can you keyboard experts, maybe do like, an ounce of research before thundering in?"
This area is meant to be dry. A lot of the native plants rely on wildfires/control burns for germination of the seeds but also cleaning out old dead pants. They have oily leaves designed to catch fire easily. The central valley has also been using their groundwater like crazy and literally falling because of it
I live here for about a year more and let me tell you that is exactly what I say myself. Visually and not exaggerating it can literally look and somewhat feel like hell. During the Camp Fire as well as Park Fire I’ve known people who lost stuff and pets to fires in CA, a few now 2 times. Used to be water in lakes here but now I see them usually empty and point out when I do see water. I will say PGNE is the son of satan around here, they should have been demolished as a business for what they did and all the lives they took. However it’s also just California as a whole. Place has become a big curved poop shaped brown stain on the map.
My dad died in a wildfire that came through our valley a few years ago. His name was Donald Schmidt and he spent his final moments getting trapped neighbors from their homes as he was a retired vet in a 55+ community. He did a solid job too, cuz his was the only life claimed by the Alameda fire. He was gone, police wouldn't let me try to get to him. They found his remains two days later, he had sat down in his favorite recliner with his dog curled up on his lap. He lit a cigarette and had a glass of Wild Turkey before being consumed by smoke and flames. He wasn't my father by birth but I claimed him as Dad cuz he was such a great guy and he made my mom happy. Not even three years later and she's remarried now to some guy who thinks it's okay to give my 5yo daughter "love spankings" like wtf? Kicked him out of my house and I'm not happy with my mom's bs
I mean, CalFire does controlled burns all the time. However, they're mostly understaffed and the majority of their resources are in NorCal (much more forest dense, so it makes sense). SoCal is known for cutting the funding for CalFire in their districts and counties because they haven't been experiencing the wild fires as much as NorCal does.
Bro... That woman of the firefighting department... What the hell. i'm from the Netherlands and we have similar things going on here. I'm turning 30 soon. To me it really looks like the west is going insane. When i was younger, the world was more normal. You were able to have a fight at a bar, and enjoy a beer together later that night. Now you'll get stabbed or shot, or kicked in the head while u are out. Of course, i know the world has already gone trough a lot of crazy-er times. I think they are waves. And this current wave is getting bigger and bigger until it collapses.
No way, the rich people will keep their land and just build new $4-5 million dollar homes in the next 2-3 years .... Yes, they're THAT rich in the Palisades
The WeF and their 15 min cities and in the process of building back better....reducing the carbon and a bonus is stealing the children. We are the carbon that THEY want to reduce... own nothing and be happy 😊 agenda 2030
California has always had huge forest fires. They used to be contained by doing controlled burns and clearing of brush. That was hampered big time by the environmental movement and what we have today is the result. They had these fires under control back in the 50s.
They build houses in the middle of forests that historically experience regular fires... then consider it a disaster when the forest burns. It's not a disaster, it's nature. But it'll be called a disaster because man was present where man should have stayed out.
This shit seen here is why I would not live in California, except maybe the very north part. Does this crap happen there? And also wouldn't live in Florida due to hurricanes, and avoid the middle states which get tornadoes. All these states where nature can literally come and destroy your house, and potentially kill you.... F that. Not worth the risk of getting a house in such places.
as a Californian it drives me to the point of insanity how stupid our officials are when it comes to ACTUALLY protecting the environment by removing dead trees and decreasing the unhealthy density some of our forests grow at
That's what happens when you have a large fire front. It's a well known problem, you're not going to maintain pressure with a front that big. The fact they are relying on hydrants for bushfires is just another example of how poorly developed fire fighting is in California. They don't want to hear it though, every time they have these fires they report the same problems, every time people try to explain their not using the best practices they get defensive. Speak to anyone else in the US, Canada, Australia, Spain hell even the Russians who live in regions that get these fires and they will tell you a loss of pressure is inevitable. California is wealthy, their taxes are high. There's no reason the response should be this poorly thought out. Private fire departments, Prison Labour, a massive over reliance on smoke jumpers they're fucked in the head.
The fact that these people's insurance can apparently legally drop their insurance the second they need it is scarier. Be like I survived but after paying thousands in insurance fees, I'm now homeless in the most expensive state in the US. The minecraft rate for CA about to go up.
Same thing happens in Australia, the current government stops bush mitigation processes in the guise of saving the environment, yet there are more extreme fire events when they don't, yet the indigenous people of the land told them they needed to do it to stop the fires and didn't listen.
i live in Australia where we get much much worse than this and what we're taught from elementary school is to never stay in your home even if you got defences like this wall of water that sprays out to defend the area never remain in your house the fires can get so hot that it sucks the oxygen from your house bodies have been found in perfectly untouched houses that have had sprinkler defence systems
I wondered about that. In WW2 people would take shelter in bomb shelters and would all die not from bombs, but because the fires raging above them would suck out all the oxygen.
you can't stop them, that would make it worse actually, controlled fires is probably the best bet, but now people build where the greenery was, you can't just start fires in residential areas.... so they start by themselves.
Take a look at the Photo of the California fire officials. Wouldn't think it takes a genius to understand you need to clear out the underbrush of wooded areas in an state that experiences 350~ days of sunshine a year. Wild.
They’ve known this was a possibility for over 20 years. If there is a shred of our National Republic and the Republic of California left there should be dozens of individuals arrested, removed from office and tried for the loss of life and property. This level of negligence and apathy is unfathomable.
MAJOR negligence. I work in fire prevention and the whole state preaches fire safety, training, etc. etc. etc. and this stuff still happens. It's absolutely unacceptable that our state which has one the largest economies in the entire world has these types of disasters.
I was on a flight back from Australia and going through LA when these fires started. Didn’t know they had happened until the Captain of the plane said the smoke we were smelling was not from the plane and was from wildfires outside. Somebody then opened a window and I kid you not it was actual hellfire outside that window. Also the planes I took in and out of LA felt like a roller coaster with that amount of wind. Crazy flights were not grounded at the point I when I got out of LA
@@aliensquidThats exactly what people should have in mind when implementing bs policy like DEI in the fire deparment instead of idk fire prevention and counter measures. Those people losing everything right now have only themselves to blame for supporting all that nonsensical policy and their avatars.
DEI will go down as one of the biggest fails in human history “Hey I have a great idea let’s not hire the best people for the job let’s make sure we hire someone because they’re gay instead”
I live in california. what's crazy is Insurance companies have been flying over houses with drones to look at people's backyards, then dropping them if they dont think their roofs or yards are deemed "uninsureabale" My uncle's neighbor was dropped by his insurance just because they decided his area was a fire risk out of nowhere
@@The_High_SeAs not necessarily from a financial security perspective (as messed up as that is) but dude, what are we supposed to do. Some of us just want to live normal lives in peace and do good. Our government wont protect us and our insurance drops us
@@Micolashcage1 I think it's funny that insurance LITERALLY exists to cover crap like fire, floods, monsoons, and all sorts of other stuff, but now they're trying to play hardball on natural disasters, so they don't have to pay out. Gotta protect them profit margins and make the investors/board (stock holders) happy, huh?
Trump called this out, but newsome made fun of him. Trump said he had ro clean up the forrest before a bigger fire errupts again. @theoppositeopinion9290
I work at range control for a large military training area and we have a whole forestry department that divided up the entire area into sections separated by dirt fire breaks. They are constantly doing grading and controlled burns to get rid of the brush and stuff. It creates large plumes of smoke when they do it but it keeps us from having wildfires. From what I understand California doesn’t allow a lot of this stuff. I think near me they had a wildfire years back that destroyed a lot of the ranges and equipment and they implemented a lot of these procedures.
This was 100% foreseen. From LA cutting lafd budget by 23 million $ last year to rampant DEI , with the FD starting its own DEI dept, to FD putting on pride parades instead of trying to not maintaining their hydrant system in a wild fire zone , to refusing to use rainwater run off because of green crap, to the LA mayor having fun in Africa on the taxpayers dime, refusing to do preventative controlled burn,..... that's not even the end. Even if fire was natural they made it 100000X worse by being politically captured cult members only caring about the DEI cult to the detriment of everything.
This is a result of 100 mph winds, the sort of winds that scientists have been telling you will become all too common if uncontrolled anthropogenic climate change is not checked.
@@michaellombardi5831 you even left out the incredibly timely retreat of the insurance companies with fire insurance. Almost seems like a well executed operation.
DEI enjoyers will see this and say "why is DEI the problem in this again? it's the government's fault" while protesting to the government to bow down and show support for Pride and DEI by using the tax payers' money because if they don't then they're big0ts.
Fire reduction is just one major impact of poor forestry. One thing not discussed in forestry management is if they reduced the leaf litter you also cut back on disease carrying vectors like ticks that infect tens of thousands of Americans each year. Ticks use the leaf litter as an insulator from the cold to survive till spring in cold climates. A lot of this would be paid for by citizens too in the form of tree cutting/harvesting permits. Cheap heat for residents, lower risks to homes making insurance affordable, and probably see a decrease in healthcare expenses too.
@ fastest since 2011. It’s not really new. This is a systemic failure in forestry but also refusing to maintain enough infrastructure to handle emergencies. This is a Gov corruption problem. They spent mountains of cash but are derelict in doing the core functions of government. Lock them up.
They banned wood burning fireplaces in new construction several years ago. You won't get a permit to install one in most counties and cities here. All under the guise of "air-quality"
@ I know it’s all trash policies by a government that caused the problem in the first place. A single wildfire that burns a community put far more toxins into the environment than decades of wood burning stoves. It’s about feel good policies to get donations and control.
@ I know it’s all trash policies by a government that caused the problem in the first place. A single wildfire that burns a community put far more toxins into the environment than decades of wood burning stoves. It’s about feel good policies to get donations and control.
Water scientist here: there's another chicken or the egg problem here In efforts to manage the delta smelt water levels have gotten dangerously low from the selling reserves, but demand never changed. Along the delta they have pumped so aggressively it has drawn ocean into the rivers. This has dramatically changed the salt levels of the rivers which is a ecological nightmare, to correct this they flush water back into the ocean. There's millions of dollars in infrastructure and research to keep the salt content of the delta at safe levels for the ecosystem. My political guess on this is the delta smelt gets the attention so people go look at these dumb hippies instead of looks at this practice that is the managed ruin of the environment. If I'm not crazy this is as rediculous as the plot of a captain planet episode.
I'm from the delta area. For the locals, most of us use the smelt as protection from greedy LA. They've been wanting to build a water pipeline to LA for years now. It's hard to say yes to that when a good chunk of LA wastes water on dumb stuff. We use a lot on crops but at least we're producing food, not light shows at Disney. BTW still think it's silly we grow a ton of water intensive crops in drought prone norcal though...
The lake Joe Rogan is talking about is lake Tulare. It used to fill up all the time and drain, but there was always a remnant. It was dried up using canals for irrigation of farm land. The ironic thing is it reappeared again in the last year, flooding many acres of farm land
context of 5:53 Rick Caruso ran against Karen Bass for Los Angeles Mayor and lost. He owns strip malls across Los Angeles, Ventura, and Orange County you likely know about or have visited if you've ever been to Los Angeles. He's very active in the community and does interviews and worked with fast clean up crews during the 2020 riots. He's seen it all. The fire hydrants in Pacific Palisades ran empty during this fire and apparently it's something he's been complaining about 2 years ago when he ran.
Defund the fire department. Clearly we need more fire counselling. The fire has suffered multigenerational trauma from constantly been put down by the fire department. Fire lives matter.
This is going to turn into another Hawaii ordeal. All the rich celebrities and corporations are going to throw up more apartments so people can’t have land to put homes anymore.
California "This is totally natural and thus completely unpreventable" Utah/Nevada/Arizona/New Mexico/Texas "Then why don't we have this problem EVERY FREAKING YEAR even though we're even drier than you are?"
@@jwr2904 Nothing on the scale of this though. It's like you think "Fire is fire is fire, it's all the same". Your comments under others is also very devoid of any real arguments or actual understanding.
Arizona actually isn't drier than California... It's hotter, not drier. And the places that ARE super dry, don't have burnable brush. Believe it or not, but in Phoenix Arizona, it rains more than it does in San Diego. And their infrastructure is setup to capture and redistribute the water during their haboob season. I grew up in San Diego and spent my 20s in Arizona, it rains more in Arizona. Some years in San Diego, it might rain just a single time in the entire year. This is why California wild fires are partially "natural." A lot of areas in California are extremely dry because of how little rainfall they get. Which naturally increases the chance of forest fires.
I live just north of the Pallisades Fire. When the winds are blowing in my direction, the sky is black or red. I think a lot of people who aren’t familiar with LA assume that we’re all living in crammed downtown housing or spacious rich mansions. I live in an urban neighborhood, surrounded by schools. All of them have been closed, most have been turned into evacuation centers for people, animals or both. People are really coming together right now. No one deserves what’s happening. I hope no one else has to experience this in their lifetime. It’s terrifying.
@@Elavationproductions I live in Tennessee and have five schools around me. The last time I had only two schools nearby I lived in a village and one of them was an Amish school.
When Nor-Cal was on fire back in fall of 2020, I was enrolled in an online biology course in college. The professor and students blamed Trump for the entire situation. I wonder who they will blame now???
If you were paying attention, Trump doesnt take climate change seriously. These fires are a result of people who don’t care to do anything about climate change.
The NJ Pine Barrens used to have enormous wild fires... until after one million-plus acre burn in the 1960's they finally decided to start annual controlled burns. No massive wildfires ever since!
They need to do this for northern Utah. There is a huge and famous valley that has a pretty fire synonymous name and the last time I went through there there was do much dead fall and brush that I'm surprised that it still hasn't caught on fire. It's only a matter of time.
Did you ever stop to think about the difference in complexity between burning backwoods bf Egypt place in FLAT terrain New Jersey vs on STEEP ass hills with multi million dollar homes? You come be burn boss then put your name on it for if something goes sideways.
@@neuromancer886 ............... "The machines rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire. Their war to exterminate mankind had raged for decades, but the final battle would not be fought in the future. It would be fought here, in our present. Tonight.."
The near-totality of California's inner lake drained into the Pacific hundreds of thousands of years ago. The remaining pool was relatively tiny and very shallow, only 10-30 feet deep. That pool is kept dry most of the time because the water is used for farming, which is a choice, not a mistake. The mountains have COLLOSAL amount of water simply allowed to flow into the ocean when most of it could be diverted into reservoirs with reasonable mitigation for species protection. That dry lake people lament about? It can be filled and more by re-routing water that goes into the Pacific. There is no good reason to keep California into perpetual water insecurity. There is no good reason to refuse to do controlled burns to prevent exactly what is happening right now.
Their is plenty of profit to be made offering insurance scams to new home owners. and keeping the fires available is something to ensure that profitability.
@@AlxndrHQbingo. Always remember when you ask "why did the mayor/governor/senator do/not do this or that" the answer is always "because they'll benefit financially from it".
A lot of the farmers water in the central valley was taken away claiming the bay areas Needed it more, and then was reported to dump all the water into the ocean. A lot of farmers now have to use GM crops that can handle less water and it's costing them more than ever. Now that the state government is pushing, no one asked or voted for, lack of diesel fuel for all the equipment everyone Needs to survive...they are pushing most of the agriculture communities to sell their lands for cheap...
I remember when I was a kid growing up in San Diego. In 2003 we had some crazy fires and it pretty much looked just like this, I lived in a valley and the entire mountainsides surrounding the town were basically on fire, and it rained ash for weeks.
Useful skill for any profession where you have to deal with people. It's a question of empathy. Fires don't need empathy but maybe the people carrying buckets of water to keep their home from burning up do
One tiny fish. Apparently every other animal in California, including all those deer that we've seen fleeing the fires with their massive burns, all the birds that don't migrate overwinter, all the hares, the bears, the native sheep, and so on...they don't matter a damn, but that fish does. The amount of lengths these people (environmentalists) will lie to kill their species is enormous.
In 1853 australia began giving eucalyptus trees to california, now that they have matured, one of the defining features of eucalyptus trees are that they need fire to germinate, their leaves are full of oils and they are constantly self pruning to set the conditions for fires. So what i am saying is, australia sends their regards. 🤠
@@DrDuckMDthey live in california they have excaped nothing they flee a fire into the rest of the nightmare dude that state has fallen 1984 666 style
My house was burned down in this fire. About 6 months ago, our insurance was dropped for being "high-risk". Luckily, last month we were able to find a replacement insurance company. However, it came at a steep price. Many of my peers didn't have the same luxury. I pray for all of those who were harmed and lost their homes. And for those who are merely observing and lending prayers, I am grateful. Edit: To all the people using this comment as a place to make a political jab, you either have no human soul, or you need to go outside. Not everything is about politics. People are dying and losing their homes, and you sit in the quiet solace of your room to make a backhanded remark to someone who just lost everything they own. You people are pitiful. Also, I should note that I didn't vote for this. I've voted red all my life.
During the Australian bushfires just before Covid hit, I remember seeing footage of firefighters fighting fires and the huge streams of water from their firehoses... it would just evaporate instantly about 3 feet before it ever even reached the flames. The water wasn't even touching the most superficial outer parts of the flames at the very edge of the bushfires. The amount of heat that it was giving off was insane.
17:40 yes, controlled burns. They use to happen in the 1900s and then various environmental groups shut it down. Then they started having these issues. Now certain southern areas do controlled burns and they haven't had nearly the same amount of issues. San Diegos mountain region burned down in 2003 and they have been much better about forestry maintenance since then.
What you will learn ( if anyone cares to report it) is that this fire chief spoke up about what her department needed and she was ignored. I will bet that the fire chief brings the receipts. (2) News packages are heavily edited. So that news report where she is presented for her LGBTQ does not show everything she said. I wish I had heard the chief say that she wanted ' not a number' but the most qualified. There is an edit at that point, so we don't get to hear everything she said. (3) A fire chief is a political position not a fire fighting position. It is middle management in local politics, sometimes selected for being an HR professional, so a fire chief is groomed to speak political talking points when a camera is in their face. A male fire chief is expected to play ball with the local politics just the same. As middle management it is damned if you do, damned if you don't.
@backstabber3537 ? Im a single parent in college a regular dude. My relatives have a huge house im just tryna be nice we have the space. We are fortunate.
seems like it's right out of "this is the end" movie. On another note, it's been stated multiple times by fire crews there is little to no water there. Its absolutely pointless for anyone to head there in attempt to help them fight it. It's going to burn until the fuel is completely used up or there is a ton rain for days on end.
Its not even the governments fault either tbf. Its nature. You chose to move to an area with that kind of nature in the first place and now youre finding out. Its the same as when idiots build their little stick house in a tornado prone area and then once its inevitably knocked down they just repeat and do it again. F around find out
I recall one of the California government officials planning a bill that would allow the power company to siphon energy from electric vehicles during certain periods. Imagine a fire like this breaks out and your electric car is dead because the power grid has been siphoning its battery. I'm guessing that bill will be shelved at this point.
Alabama is almost entirely covered in forest. Tree farming is huge there. I always saw them doing controlled burns and clearing out the brush and they never had any of these fire issues. They wouldn't even cut fire breaks between the trees and the powerlines in california because it would effect a vulnerable mouse population lmao
@@jwr2904I believe their point was the people in charge were grossly incompetent when it comes to managing the forest area which could have prevented at least the severity of this situation.
@@jwr2904 "California is very different." Yeah, it has a liberal government who'd rather siphon tax money for their own corrupt desires, rather than actually manage the state properly. Huge difference.
This is what happens when the black woman mayor cuts the fire budget by 20 million and the first ever woman fire chief focuses on hiring more women. And the governor dumps your water in the ocean to save the delta smelt.
This is also what happens when you have a women running the show. An example being the mayor of LA (a women), and the head chief of the LAFD (a women).
The reason the bulldozer operator isn't holding down "W" is the same reason that snow plows work with an angle to their blade. If you keep piling more and more mass in front of you with a straight blade, you will very quickly make things worse. If the bulldozer had a "V" type blade - with the point at the furthest distance from the vehicle - to push everything to the side, going straight "might" work to clear a path. But the blade is straight, and so physics simply doesn't work that way.
Two things that are really weird about this: 1. She went on vacation just before this. 2. Insurance stopped and cancelled fire insurance right before this happened for tons of people. There’s going to be a lot of lawsuits, but on my mind is why did these two events happen in a way like they knew it would happen.
Predicting climate change isn't rocket science. In fact the S in ESG investing which MAGA wants to kill stands for Sustainability. A mutual fund which uses ESG would not be investing in Insurance companies with high exposure to climate risks like fires, hurricanes and rising sea levels. If sea levels rise 20 feet half of Florida would be underwater..
because Trump recently threatened to release the Epstein list, i'm not saying "oh orange man bad" or whatever dumb shit mind, just that there's a pretty clear correlation between that happening and a lot of politicians and celebrities suddenly jumping ship
@@doxas156 lol "aliens" que the classic history channel guy. I know it probably started naturally, but these fires can be predicted. And I truly think insurances removed coverage knowing this was about to happen. I really want Gavin to resign if he doesnt do the right thing and forces insurances to cover this.
What a progressive Fire Department. What's that? Grandpa who can barely move died from a wildfire? Well maybe it was his fault for being there, but if a firefighter did show up to scold him for his own negligence, at least they'd make sure their own skin color would match grandpas. I'm so glad they're prioritizing all the politically correct things when it comes to life and death scenarios, like skin color, or gender.
I live right outside of evacuation zone 2 of the Hurst fire. We're literally surrounded by fires in the San Fernando Valley, except for to the east. It's a mess
And I'm a sacred good guy who is praying for the well-being of everyone, so by god you'd better not annoy me by, say, pointing out any actual reasons why this fire is so bad!
we have had some crazy bush fires in Australia but we burn off regularly which doesn't stop them but definitely makes dealing with them when they happen so much easier
Reminds me a lot of the Hawaii fire. There's no water for the fire hydrant? In the middle of winter? And many of the people's insurance coverage was cancelled right before this happened? How much you want to bet Blackrock ends up buying the land?
You know we haven't had rain for 6 months, right? We haven't had any rain this winter down here in the south, and there's a lot of fire and firefighters
I served in the National Guard as a nedic and i responded to 3 major fires in California to help evacuations, damage control, and unfortunately, body recovery and EVERY SINGLE ONE of these fires were preventable.
What part of "They WANT this to happen" do people NOT UNDERSTAND? Or does everyone think it's a coincidence the same thing happened at the 2020 election? They light it up, and then apply for HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of federal funding. This is how you steal taxpayer dollars - at EVERYONE ELSE'S expense. Evil people run California. Dozens of ANTIFA were getting arrested for arson in 2020 - and the media blamed the fires on "Global Warming".
Brick walls around your property and no vegetation near it on both sides is absolutely necessary to avoid the fire getting in. A minimum of 4 feet of brick fence and a minimum of 2 feet of brick pavement on both sides and no shrubs or trees at least 5 feet from the fence
Californian here: The main takeaway is that the current fire chief is a DEI hire, and it's no surprise that firefighters do not even have water to put out the fires. That is all.
DEI hire? Are you purposely being ignorant? She has served for 22 years as a Firefighter, Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and Fire Chief.
Crowley's bio that her 'highest priority' is being devoted to Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, or DEI, a much-hated practice of corporations among conservatives.
13:00- My grandparents had a wood furnace and if the fire went out inside of it you’d start by putting dryer logs that have probably been dead longer in there first and then as they were being incinerated you’d slowly insert the fresher more wet logs because the temperature will eventually rise high enough it will burn any log. I think that can be applied to a forest fire. If you leave the dead wood lay around and then it catches on fire and there’s enough of it around eventually the temperature is high enough to burn the living trees as well, especially in a dry season it wouldn’t take much.
Insurance is a scam The ONLY way they can profit and exist...... is they have to TAKE more money from their clients, than they pay out SIMPLE. Just like a casino..... same exact principle
I live on the edge between Glendale and Burbank. I'm fortunate enough to not have been in a fire, but we're literally surrounded in a triangle (circle, now) of Hell. Never seen this in my 15 years of being here. The scariest part is that the mountain I live on could light up like gas fumes if even a single ember blows our way
Here in Canada we've been having controlled burns for a long time to prevent MASSIVE forest fires. Then we stopped doing that and we got the exact same thing California did when they stopped their controlled burns. It's a lack of proper management and forest keeping.
Yep Jasper Alberta burned because of this.
No. Its climate change. You need to pay the government more taxes to stop it.
Yep. Stopping logging had something to do with it, too. Loggers tend to clear away a lot of underbrush and that combined with controlled burns lowers the chance of something like this happening.
Well how else are you going to launder all that federal aid without fires? DERP!
This! Plus ticks are up in record numbers because of this as well.
To the people that are confused why they stayed in the house with the dog, they have a forest fire suppression system that creates a mist bubble around the house while keeping the house soaked in water. You can see it running down the windows. What is scary is how dry those windows are considering it probably has 500-1500gal a min running through the system.
Update: They survived.
Ahh thanks. I thought I saw water. Confused me. Scary shit to see
No wonder the firefighters can't find any water
surprised they had water, a lot of the people had their water cut just before the fire.
They started to run out-of water because of the sheer amount the firefighters needed to try and stop it which ultimately obviously failed. The water pressure dropped so much the hydrants stopped working as well.
Yes, unless the house itself was on fire or smoke were coming inside it is safer to not leave.
Newsom didn’t clear the brush when he should have. The mayor of LA cut $18M in fire department budget and is currently hanging out in Africa. And the DEI fire chief of LA is focused on hiring more women for the fire department to level the playing field vs men. Things are fine, until they’re not.
DEI is a luxury belief.
The mayor proposed a budget that cut firefighting funds. It hasn't been defunded yet.
They cut the fire budget and increased the cop budget. But we have more crime and more fires
@@TheDarkLasombra Doesn't really matter. I lived in California for 20 years and watched them cut the fire prevention budget over and over and over again. It's all intentional. They launder the federal aid money they get from these disasters and then partner with the rebuilding companies and double dip.
@@TheDarkLasombrawell, i guess she'll rethink that decision now huh? 😅
Firefighter from Australia here; As a Firefighter in a Bushfire Brigade Western Australia, we do this thing called "back burning" where the months leading up to summer (fire season) we burn land with heavy and dense fuel loads that has built up on the surface of already high fire threat areas. It's a controlled burn that doesn't allow the flame to stand, it practically just crawls slowly across the surface area. If there is anything like tall trees, infrastructure or other things of value or potential tall fuel source with ladder fuels, we cut line around it from its base to 1-1.5meters away and then commence the burn. This reduces the potential intensity of a fire bringing it under control much easier and faster, containment really quickly and greatly reduces the chances of lightning strikes igniting a spot fire or man-made ignition through vehicle movement, hot-works such as welding or grinding (anything that generates high heats and/or sparks, or even just a simple cigarette out the window. The forrests in LA could have small areas burnt off the surface (so fallen leaves, fallen trees, small dead bushes) or anything that has accumulated over time on the surface and could have prevented this from ever happening.
I'll tell you the science behind fires and slopes.
For every 10° of incline, the rate of spread (R.O.S.) of a fire doubles. So a hill at a 40° incline where the fire at the base and the fire R.O.S. at 5 meters per minute. That 40° slope is 5m x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 (5m - 10m - 20m - 40m - 80m, it becomes now 80 meters per minute. What makes that worse is fire creates convection which is it generates its own intense winds where hot air rises up and the hotter and bigger and intense the fire, the stronger those winds become carrying embers throwing them kilometres away ahead of the fire or to the side starting new big fires. So you might have a head fire 2kms wide that's burnt along now with a 15km Flank, wind changes now your Flank is 2kms long and your head fire is 15kms wide.
With what I said about every 10° of incline the rate of spread doubles, same is said about a decline. For every 10° of decline the rate of spread halves..unless the winds are so strong and ember attack too, the fire will hit the crest of that incline and just keep going at the same pace down the hill. The winds will just have the fire standing sideways just roaring down that tree canopy dropping burning branches onto the surface and continue burning in the canopy and surface throwing embers ahead creating junctions with even greater intensity and it's just unbelievable. The 2009 black Saturday fires in Victoria Australia this happened to us. The fire and smoke generated its own weather system creating "pyro-cumulonimbus" clouds generating its own dry lightning storm creating countless more small fires that grew and joined, starting fires ahead of the main fire making any progress in containment at the head irrelevant, it even created its own tornado.
What I'm trying to say is as a nation always on fire, we have the science in what works for fires literally trial by fire. The results speak for itself with back burning, containment becomes a lot easier and requires less water and resources in the event of a fire starting.
Pretty sure victoria and or nsw stopped back burning amd people collecting fallen wood for there fires heaters etc
Hi i grew up in midvale and swan view. 1994-2014.
I witnessed those controlled yearly burns, you sound very knowledable and thanks for your service.
Around 2010 water bomber planes prevented a fire that was spreading just 200meters from my home. Incredible sight seeing the acrobatics of the pilots.
Super underrated comment
Thanks dude, very informative.
Thank you for that information dude. That was very interesting and enlightening.
good thing the mayor cut their fire department budget over $15 million and gave herself a nice pay raise....
.... and happened to be in Africa this week.
So, who cares rich people do that all the time
@@oscaroska7613 Yes, rich people in noncritical sectors
Without water from the Hydrants - it won't matter.
"Herself," say no more.
"You're still coming in to work tomorrow though right?"
“Hell no”
Im at work right now looking at the smoke out the window 💀
Basically the 'this is fine' meme
That's how you turn co-workers into enemies.
You guys will find any excuse to be lazy won't you?
The warning was the insurance companies leaving... they would only leave if the risks were higher than the profits. When a multibillion dollar corporation decides to no longer take your money there is a huge problem.
Bingo
The California government wouldn't let the raise rates to compensate for the fire risk. So they left the state.
Florida the same, but for water
Florida paying attention???
@@esquire9445 It's the same in Florida. Insane that 2 of the most populated states in the US, insurances are almost non-existent there. And yet people keep continuing to move to these places.
"The greatest country in the world" doesnt even have enough water for thier fire department to combat fires.
Do you have any idea on what scale these fires are? They failed at preventing them, noone has enough water to deal with this, just one of the fires is over 80 fucking square kilometers
Clumping California with the usa is crazy lol. California is the worst ran state in the USA and it's not even close. This wouodnt be a problem in any other state.
Considering the scale of the fires here in Australia, millions of square kilometres. We had cities of 50000 cut off and surrounded, including mine. There was no choice but to mobilise the military and have them drop water bombs and evacuate citizens.
Why can't the vast US cargo fleet do the same as our meagre set?
@@Omiicron Ya but Democrats politicians are the laziest people and dems in California literally did nothing to prepare for this fire lol.
@Omiicron we're tired of doing it every other god damn year
Two main things cause this, a lack of controlled burns and not introducing Beavers into the ecosystem. Fun fact, Beavers are natures best fire fighters.
also doesn’t cali have a bunch of eucalyptus trees from out here in aus? those trees produce so much oil
It's because there were 60 mph winds.
@@LORDMLEPIt is a chapparall biome which means all of its trees tend to be oily. Like olive trees for example.
@@fernandomorales4691 well i didn’t know about other trees just some here from aus that were brought over to cali
Interesting
Fun fact, back before California was settled the natives would set forests on fire and then migrate away during certain seasons because they understood the importance of maintaining the forest. If you go look at the sequoias in central California you can see burns and scorches into the trees from fires like this. Not only do those trees last through the fires, but they actually need fire to germinate seeds. But all we see now is "fire bad, dont hurt trees."
Big oaks too. Most of those huge, tough trees are that way to survive a fire and then get first pick of the newly fertilized ground that's clear of smaller plants.
yep, "fire bad, dont burn my mansion i built within the trees" ..,.smfh
It seems the older i get the more i realize. Its Humans. Well DUMB Humans 😂
First part of your statement is accurate, the 2nd part not so much. There are plenty of areas/states that do practice controlled burns. Maybe not that part of California, which goes towards what that man being interviewed was talking about. There are going to be some tough questions asked when this is over about what the state/county was doing to control the underbrush in these areas.
Some are random ,,, many antifa and climate activists have been caught intentionally setting these
fun fact: statefarm cancelled *specifically* fire insurance policies for *thousands* of people in *specifically* this *exact* area in California just two months ago, same thing in maui, couple months before the fires they cancelled people's insurance policies that they specifically got for that specific scenario
oh and then you combine that with the fact that at the exact same time they cancelled all those insurance policies, the Mayor of LA cut almost 20 million in funding to the fire department, then to go EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT, they put a policy in place where they basically gimped the water levels in all of california's reservoirs because they wanted to save some "native fish" from endangerment because apparently the water was "too deep" for them to effectively propagate.
@@alexfrideres1198 23 million
Poor leadership is going to kill us.
Source that last claim please.
@@503mcbee Source? None of the fire hydrants work. Bone fuckin dry.
Those are some pretty weird coincidences.
The heavy machine isn't holding W because the grip levels from the metal tracks on the concrete slip after so much weight (friction coefficiant). If it was on clay or a more grippy surface it could probably use it's full potential. Alot of that screeching sound is the tracks slipping on the concrete.
Genius tier take, it's this right here ✅️
This guy is wicked smart. Smartest guy in the comment sedition by far. I googled it it’s true. Great guy, never met him.
The goal of the truck is not to pile-up cars and push them down the road. You can see he is pushing them aside to clear a lane. Eventually if you just hold W you end up with 30+ cars in front of the truck a weight it can't push.
@kylemenos the initial comment is referring to the reason behind the machines seemingly erratic driving maneuvers, not what he was attempting to accomplish. What you said is already obvious.
@@danberger3832 No dude. Literally he is only talking about ploughing straight in vehicles by only traveling one direction which is W in video games WASD control.
Calling your insurance and waiting on hold for 7-hours , “sorry your premium doesn’t cover hell on earth”
“Oh ok guess I’ll die then…”
@Andrew_N. Best of Luck, and thank you for calling. Is there anything else I can help you with, ma'am; or will that be all?
Shouldve read the contract
it was an act of God
"Sorry, your policy doesn't cover acts of Gavin Newsome."
Weird how the mayor of hawaii was gone when they had their fires too. Pretty sure they didn't have water either, and then that company came in trying to buy up the land.
How'd that turn out? Did the people keep their properties and rebuild the town?
Ispandciyld easily condense water no?
same tactic how they use fire to buy land of the poor
at this piont better install garden spray every 2 meter around the house and a air filter in the house
@@TheeSilentObserverz There's no city water. Sprayers are useless not only because no water but the heat generated here would evaporate the water as it came out of the sprayer.
“Why would we need to manage the forests?! That’s stupid!!”
The Unmanaged Forest: “Yeah, about that.”
And now they can attribute it to climate change. The classic bait and switch.
and California is just packed full of landscapers
@@-youngishthis IS the case of unmanaged forest. What do you think happens to a patch of greeneries when you leave it alone?
They spread out their roots.
Thus, it's called Unmanaged Forest.
"It's in the middle of the city!"
Bruh, it DOESN'T MATTER where, mismanagement of a tree park or a forestry is STILL called Unmanaged Forest case.
Look at how many acres got burned. That's not a "tree park" level of forestry.
@@-youngish forestry management includes management of brush in wooded areas in residential areas. Ya see those hills in the videos? Yeah, those are in the middle of the residential areas.
@@-youngish You should look into the meaning of things before commenting so arrogantly.
"God bless, can you keyboard experts, maybe do like, an ounce of research before thundering in?"
This area is meant to be dry. A lot of the native plants rely on wildfires/control burns for germination of the seeds but also cleaning out old dead pants. They have oily leaves designed to catch fire easily. The central valley has also been using their groundwater like crazy and literally falling because of it
California actually managed to manifest Hell, in all ways possible lmfao
Quite the accomplishment actually
I live here for about a year more and let me tell you that is exactly what I say myself. Visually and not exaggerating it can literally look and somewhat feel like hell. During the Camp Fire as well as Park Fire I’ve known people who lost stuff and pets to fires in CA, a few now 2 times.
Used to be water in lakes here but now I see them usually empty and point out when I do see water.
I will say PGNE is the son of satan around here, they should have been demolished as a business for what they did and all the lives they took. However it’s also just California as a whole. Place has become a big curved poop shaped brown stain on the map.
And now it's on fire too.
Northern california isnt that bad we should just split into 3 states. North, Central, south
@@wa1k3r8yeah let’s add another 4 democratic congressmen, that will fix things.
My dad died in a wildfire that came through our valley a few years ago. His name was Donald Schmidt and he spent his final moments getting trapped neighbors from their homes as he was a retired vet in a 55+ community. He did a solid job too, cuz his was the only life claimed by the Alameda fire.
He was gone, police wouldn't let me try to get to him. They found his remains two days later, he had sat down in his favorite recliner with his dog curled up on his lap. He lit a cigarette and had a glass of Wild Turkey before being consumed by smoke and flames. He wasn't my father by birth but I claimed him as Dad cuz he was such a great guy and he made my mom happy. Not even three years later and she's remarried now to some guy who thinks it's okay to give my 5yo daughter "love spankings" like wtf? Kicked him out of my house and I'm not happy with my mom's bs
Thank you for sharing that memory,sounds like he was a good man.
Sorry for Your loss man, Your dad was a hero and he has great place in heaven waiting for You someday!I'm proud of how strong man he was.
The story made me tear a bit, then I get to the end and I'm now wtf'ing. "love spanking" guy needs to be dealt with.
❤❤❤
What a rollercoaster of a comment
Natives used to prevent this shit by creating fire ditches and controlled burns. Then environmentalists came along.
alll hail the DEI hires
I mean, CalFire does controlled burns all the time. However, they're mostly understaffed and the majority of their resources are in NorCal (much more forest dense, so it makes sense). SoCal is known for cutting the funding for CalFire in their districts and counties because they haven't been experiencing the wild fires as much as NorCal does.
@@accelerator8558 this was before dei existed
natives didn't do anything but scalp each other over land, logging kept this from happening, clear the brush, plant new trees, chop the wood
didnt they cut the spendings by 23 millions for la fire dep ... so no wonder they dont to this anymore
Bro... That woman of the firefighting department... What the hell.
i'm from the Netherlands and we have similar things going on here.
I'm turning 30 soon. To me it really looks like the west is going insane. When i was younger, the world was more normal.
You were able to have a fight at a bar, and enjoy a beer together later that night. Now you'll get stabbed or shot, or kicked in the head while u are out.
Of course, i know the world has already gone trough a lot of crazy-er times. I think they are waves.
And this current wave is getting bigger and bigger until it collapses.
I was kicked in the head during new years eve
Considering what was going on in european bars a hundred years ago, we're still way more sane than back then.
Christ is returning
100% rich corporations come in and buy up the land after.
No way, the rich people will keep their land and just build new $4-5 million dollar homes in the next 2-3 years .... Yes, they're THAT rich in the Palisades
Well it won't be the poor ones...
The WeF and their 15 min cities and in the process of building back better....reducing the carbon and a bonus is stealing the children. We are the carbon that THEY want to reduce... own nothing and be happy 😊 agenda 2030
“The time to buy is when there’s blood in the streets” - Baron Rothschild
eco freaks saying 'leave the trees alone' have caused all that fuel
California has always had huge forest fires. They used to be contained by doing controlled burns and clearing of brush. That was hampered big time by the environmental movement and what we have today is the result. They had these fires under control back in the 50s.
Fun fact: even the native Americans did controlled burns. So this doesn't happen.
They build houses in the middle of forests that historically experience regular fires...
then consider it a disaster when the forest burns.
It's not a disaster, it's nature. But it'll be called a disaster because man was present where man should have stayed out.
This shit seen here is why I would not live in California, except maybe the very north part. Does this crap happen there? And also wouldn't live in Florida due to hurricanes, and avoid the middle states which get tornadoes. All these states where nature can literally come and destroy your house, and potentially kill you.... F that. Not worth the risk of getting a house in such places.
They'd rather blame global warming than all the direct changes/negligence that they are doing to their surroundings.
as a Californian it drives me to the point of insanity how stupid our officials are when it comes to ACTUALLY protecting the environment by removing dead trees and decreasing the unhealthy density some of our forests grow at
"There's no water coming out of the fire hydrants" That sounds like a problem.
All the water was diverted to the very expensive homes with fire suppression systems.
Intentional Sabotage.
Yup, so glad golf courses are able to waste water when people can't even fight fires. But when the rich create a problem there is no penalty.
Because they want to preserve a little fish
That's what happens when you have a large fire front. It's a well known problem, you're not going to maintain pressure with a front that big.
The fact they are relying on hydrants for bushfires is just another example of how poorly developed fire fighting is in California.
They don't want to hear it though, every time they have these fires they report the same problems, every time people try to explain their not using the best practices they get defensive.
Speak to anyone else in the US, Canada, Australia, Spain hell even the Russians who live in regions that get these fires and they will tell you a loss of pressure is inevitable.
California is wealthy, their taxes are high. There's no reason the response should be this poorly thought out.
Private fire departments, Prison Labour, a massive over reliance on smoke jumpers they're fucked in the head.
2:34 this is why survival guides state that you do NEVER use a vehicle in a apocalypse or a disaster, you'll only get stuck or get other people stuck.
what's even crazier is that no one will really be held accountable, CA is only going to get worse with the current lack of management
Yup, they’ll swear up and down that it’s due to climate change and pass more laws that won’t fix anything but cause more harm.
And the people will continue to vote these same people in.
Yea! We need Trump to stop the high winds
Move out or vote better lol
@@JohnDoe-pt7ru - No voter ID laws. Kamala only won the states where ID was not required to vote. And the state is red with blue cities.
The fact that these people's insurance can apparently legally drop their insurance the second they need it is scarier.
Be like I survived but after paying thousands in insurance fees, I'm now homeless in the most expensive state in the US. The minecraft rate for CA about to go up.
Sounds like they need a plumber.
And people will now act accordingly. The example has been set. . . Just an observation from my pov.
Someone should be held accountable for that.
So which CEO is next then?
Then don’t pay for insurence lol
"It looks like we're in a 3rd world country here"
Dude, I'm in a 3rd world and we never had forest fires like this 💀
😂😂😂😂
How's that world compared to earth 🤔
How you got a phone 🤯
@@eazyollie9370 phones are mostly manufactured in 3rd worlds
@pauljoseph3081 How you got WiFi?
Same thing happens in Australia, the current government stops bush mitigation processes in the guise of saving the environment, yet there are more extreme fire events when they don't, yet the indigenous people of the land told them they needed to do it to stop the fires and didn't listen.
No forest management, no water reservoirs, and no fire containment.
hey at least the fire department is diverse and has lgbtq members
PERIOD
No problem!
Why is it not against the law for these companies to keep dropping people right before a disaster??
But we have DEI though
California might actually be hell
It wasn't already?
Welcome to Climate Change
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemidon’t buy that fraud. It’s just unmanaged forests and liberals not wanting to take the earth’s sacred resources like…. Water.
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi california is so woke that climate change arrived there first
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi Only in California :))
i live in Australia where we get much much worse than this and what we're taught from elementary school is to never stay in your home even if you got defences like this wall of water that sprays out to defend the area never remain in your house the fires can get so hot that it sucks the oxygen from your house
bodies have been found in perfectly untouched houses that have had sprinkler defence systems
Hoping for a tame fire season this year for yalls. Atleast most of you know its coming and try and due proper
Really good to know thanks for this.
Those people obviously have no common sense.
I wondered about that. In WW2 people would take shelter in bomb shelters and would all die not from bombs, but because the fires raging above them would suck out all the oxygen.
Sprinkler defense is for the house, NOT the humans
I’ve seen multiple women fail the physical fire tests and still get hired in a fire position, incompetence
I'm in CA and the fact that the city of LA would rather focus on DEI instead of stopping the annual fires is very upsetting
yeah.... maybe if we ask nicely enough the fire will put itself out?
There's no stopping annual fires lol
you can't stop them, that would make it worse actually, controlled fires is probably the best bet, but now people build where the greenery was, you can't just start fires in residential areas.... so they start by themselves.
@@jwr2904 but there is controling it and cutting funds and dei hires is not how.
@@jwr2904As the person above me said, you cannot stop the fires from happening but you can mitigate the damage and the severity.
Take a look at the Photo of the California fire officials.
Wouldn't think it takes a genius to understand you need to clear out the underbrush of wooded areas in an state that experiences 350~ days of sunshine a year.
Wild.
Are you paying for it?
33 million acres of forests
Everybody's got answers AFTER disaster strikes.. people just love to hear themselves yap
@@MeanMrMustard-aka-DaDijonDon People have been saying this for YEARS. This is not a new argument at all.
@@TheMitmiter People have been saying the same thing about Transwomen being women
They’ve known this was a possibility for over 20 years. If there is a shred of our National Republic and the Republic of California left there should be dozens of individuals arrested, removed from office and tried for the loss of life and property. This level of negligence and apathy is unfathomable.
Nothing will happen until the people take action into their own hands imo
Should, but won't
It's almost like the want it to happen because they know their base will believe it's climate change and not negligence.
MAJOR negligence. I work in fire prevention and the whole state preaches fire safety, training, etc. etc. etc. and this stuff still happens. It's absolutely unacceptable that our state which has one the largest economies in the entire world has these types of disasters.
You dont have guns? They will blame previous gov and do nothing with it.
I was on a flight back from Australia and going through LA when these fires started. Didn’t know they had happened until the Captain of the plane said the smoke we were smelling was not from the plane and was from wildfires outside. Somebody then opened a window and I kid you not it was actual hellfire outside that window. Also the planes I took in and out of LA felt like a roller coaster with that amount of wind. Crazy flights were not grounded at the point I when I got out of LA
I love that fire doesn't discriminate and lays waste to everything & everyone equally. Truly fire is the most DEI friendly thing ever.
Ok so fire doesn’t discriminate….but nothing friendly about people losing everything.
DEI discriminates, fire doesn’t, which is not DEI friendly. I don’t see your logic calling it “DEI friendly”.
“Brown people most affected.”
@@aliensquidThats exactly what people should have in mind when implementing bs policy like DEI in the fire deparment instead of idk fire prevention and counter measures. Those people losing everything right now have only themselves to blame for supporting all that nonsensical policy and their avatars.
That's why a lot of these fires are arson.
DEI will go down as one of the biggest fails in human history “Hey I have a great idea let’s not hire the best people for the job let’s make sure we hire someone because they’re gay instead”
so many places get that now and are cutting that out.
Yeah 2024 and now even the start of 2025 is proving how much DEI is a huge liability.
Folks are done with that crap.
Everthing is a cycle. It will return. It was called pc last time around. It appears to be getting worse each cycle so that’s cool
”If i were the devil…”
Anyone talking about DEI is brainwashed and need to get off internet, mixing stuffs.
CNN: Mostly peaceful forest fires.
They just want to be heard. Forest fire lives matter too ya know.
All they need to do is manage the forests but chainsaw bad
They dont even look that hot on screen.
So im curious if everyone with damages from this will be able to sue the city for there negligence @DrHuxley-
Why are you down here😂
Diversity Ending Inferno - DEI
It takes 1 to 3 gallons of water per almond. California grew 2.2 billion pounds of almonds in 2022. California grows 80% of the world’s almonds.
Only you can prevent almond farms
average that at 2 gallons per almond.... 4.4 billion gallons = 6,750 Olympic pools
or a cube of water that's about 838 x 838 x 838 feet in dimension.
@@jeremyhess7977 2.2 billion POUNDS. There are 304 to 464 almonds per pound. So multiply your answer by 304 to 464.
They need almonds man how can they work without almond milk in their coffee
Lol. You have any idea how much 2 gallons of dairy milk takes to produce? 100 times that. Almonds are not the problem buddy. gtfo.
I live in california. what's crazy is Insurance companies have been flying over houses with drones to look at people's backyards, then dropping them if they dont think their roofs or yards are deemed "uninsureabale"
My uncle's neighbor was dropped by his insurance just because they decided his area was a fire risk out of nowhere
But are they wrong?
@@The_High_SeAs not necessarily from a financial security perspective (as messed up as that is) but dude, what are we supposed to do. Some of us just want to live normal lives in peace and do good. Our government wont protect us and our insurance drops us
I'm sorry you have to live in California. That's bad enough, but now there is this fire too, sad.
@@The_High_SeAs Yes, they are wrong. You're paying insurance so you get protected against loss, that's literally what you're paying for.
@@Micolashcage1 I think it's funny that insurance LITERALLY exists to cover crap like fire, floods, monsoons, and all sorts of other stuff, but now they're trying to play hardball on natural disasters, so they don't have to pay out. Gotta protect them profit margins and make the investors/board (stock holders) happy, huh?
*Screams to California officials: "HAVE YOU TRIED CALLING THE FIRE RACIST??"
Trump called this out, but newsome made fun of him. Trump said he had ro clean up the forrest before a bigger fire errupts again. @theoppositeopinion9290
@@theoppositeopinion9290 stay mad. Sorry everything the left does ends in failure.
@@theoppositeopinion9290 You still mad at Trump for saying men cannot get pregnant?
@@theoppositeopinion9290 trump will just tell the fire to stop it and it will go out.
I love how all of this is because of the democratic leadership, but people can still try to bring it back to Trump 😂😂
I work at range control for a large military training area and we have a whole forestry department that divided up the entire area into sections separated by dirt fire breaks. They are constantly doing grading and controlled burns to get rid of the brush and stuff. It creates large plumes of smoke when they do it but it keeps us from having wildfires. From what I understand California doesn’t allow a lot of this stuff. I think near me they had a wildfire years back that destroyed a lot of the ranges and equipment and they implemented a lot of these procedures.
This was 100% foreseen. From LA cutting lafd budget by 23 million $ last year to rampant DEI , with the FD starting its own DEI dept, to FD putting on pride parades instead of trying to not maintaining their hydrant system in a wild fire zone , to refusing to use rainwater run off because of green crap, to the LA mayor having fun in Africa on the taxpayers dime, refusing to do preventative controlled burn,..... that's not even the end. Even if fire was natural they made it 100000X worse by being politically captured cult members only caring about the DEI cult to the detriment of everything.
you get what you vote for.
This is a result of 100 mph winds, the sort of winds that scientists have been telling you will become all too common if uncontrolled anthropogenic climate change is not checked.
@@michaellombardi5831 you even left out the incredibly timely retreat of the insurance companies with fire insurance. Almost seems like a well executed operation.
DEI enjoyers will see this and say "why is DEI the problem in this again? it's the government's fault" while protesting to the government to bow down and show support for Pride and DEI by using the tax payers' money because if they don't then they're big0ts.
You are brainwashed, wake up you are mixing stuff together.
Fire reduction is just one major impact of poor forestry. One thing not discussed in forestry management is if they reduced the leaf litter you also cut back on disease carrying vectors like ticks that infect tens of thousands of Americans each year. Ticks use the leaf litter as an insulator from the cold to survive till spring in cold climates. A lot of this would be paid for by citizens too in the form of tree cutting/harvesting permits. Cheap heat for residents, lower risks to homes making insurance affordable, and probably see a decrease in healthcare expenses too.
Idk man there’s been some crazy fast winds in California recently
@ fastest since 2011. It’s not really new. This is a systemic failure in forestry but also refusing to maintain enough infrastructure to handle emergencies. This is a Gov corruption problem. They spent mountains of cash but are derelict in doing the core functions of government. Lock them up.
They banned wood burning fireplaces in new construction several years ago. You won't get a permit to install one in most counties and cities here. All under the guise of "air-quality"
@ I know it’s all trash policies by a government that caused the problem in the first place. A single wildfire that burns a community put far more toxins into the environment than decades of wood burning stoves. It’s about feel good policies to get donations and control.
@ I know it’s all trash policies by a government that caused the problem in the first place. A single wildfire that burns a community put far more toxins into the environment than decades of wood burning stoves. It’s about feel good policies to get donations and control.
Water scientist here: there's another chicken or the egg problem here In efforts to manage the delta smelt water levels have gotten dangerously low from the selling reserves, but demand never changed. Along the delta they have pumped so aggressively it has drawn ocean into the rivers. This has dramatically changed the salt levels of the rivers which is a ecological nightmare, to correct this they flush water back into the ocean. There's millions of dollars in infrastructure and research to keep the salt content of the delta at safe levels for the ecosystem. My political guess on this is the delta smelt gets the attention so people go look at these dumb hippies instead of looks at this practice that is the managed ruin of the environment. If I'm not crazy this is as rediculous as the plot of a captain planet episode.
I'm from the delta area. For the locals, most of us use the smelt as protection from greedy LA. They've been wanting to build a water pipeline to LA for years now. It's hard to say yes to that when a good chunk of LA wastes water on dumb stuff. We use a lot on crops but at least we're producing food, not light shows at Disney. BTW still think it's silly we grow a ton of water intensive crops in drought prone norcal though...
"they have pumped so aggressively it has drawn ocean into the rivers"
jesus fucking christ that is a lot of pumping capacity
That fish was doing just fine before Cali dammed the water up. Maybe it’s endangered because of it.
@virtuosomaximoso1 what's your take on all the water bottling plants in California?
@@GamingDadBad idea
The lake Joe Rogan is talking about is lake Tulare. It used to fill up all the time and drain, but there was always a remnant. It was dried up using canals for irrigation of farm land. The ironic thing is it reappeared again in the last year, flooding many acres of farm land
context of 5:53
Rick Caruso ran against Karen Bass for Los Angeles Mayor and lost. He owns strip malls across Los Angeles, Ventura, and Orange County you likely know about or have visited if you've ever been to Los Angeles. He's very active in the community and does interviews and worked with fast clean up crews during the 2020 riots. He's seen it all.
The fire hydrants in Pacific Palisades ran empty during this fire and apparently it's something he's been complaining about 2 years ago when he ran.
That's why I'm praying Pierre in the next canada election gets in. Please God can we have people that have common sense
Fire hydrants would go empty anyway due to lack of pressure due to being used elsewhere dummy
DEI is not just killing games, films, sports & car companies, but people now too
Browns are not
Equal
has been for a while now. You just don't hear about it.
What does DEI have to do with wild fires?
you mixing stuff together like a terminally online retar
Defund the fire department. Clearly we need more fire counselling. The fire has suffered multigenerational trauma from constantly been put down by the fire department. Fire lives matter.
Stop the firefighters' brutality. The fire just wants to exist!!!!
Fire can do everything water can do, why are we treating them differently?!?! EQUALITY
first comment on youtube to make me laugh in a while
I know you're joking, but we're too closeto a reality where people believe what you said, which makes it somehow less funny xD
END FIRE SUFFRAGE!!!
All the people that have left Cali in recent years are thanking fuck.
This is going to turn into another Hawaii ordeal. All the rich celebrities and corporations are going to throw up more apartments so people can’t have land to put homes anymore.
believe it or not, that is the area where the rich celebrities live. all around it is suburbs, but those are small mansions atop hills.
… this is where rich people live…
@@ericaallisonc Exactly why they’re going to take more land I would assume.
Rich are under threat as well. Its the political swamp of Newsom that's the real problem
@ericaallisonc bro there are Tiers of rich people so your comment makes little sense.
No one ever talks about how loud a fire like that is when you're next to it.
I never thought about that, cool catch!
because everybody knows that fires roar
Big fires the heat goes far out too.
Not called a roaring fire for nothing.
Yeah man, the noise is definitely the worst thing about it. You can't even watch TV with noise canceling headphones. It's horrible!
California "This is totally natural and thus completely unpreventable"
Utah/Nevada/Arizona/New Mexico/Texas "Then why don't we have this problem EVERY FREAKING YEAR even though we're even drier than you are?"
Google is free.
Yeah, they never have forest fires in any other western states... And you must not know anything about how much rain we get in the south
@@jwr2904 Nothing on the scale of this though. It's like you think "Fire is fire is fire, it's all the same". Your comments under others is also very devoid of any real arguments or actual understanding.
Arizona actually isn't drier than California... It's hotter, not drier. And the places that ARE super dry, don't have burnable brush. Believe it or not, but in Phoenix Arizona, it rains more than it does in San Diego. And their infrastructure is setup to capture and redistribute the water during their haboob season. I grew up in San Diego and spent my 20s in Arizona, it rains more in Arizona. Some years in San Diego, it might rain just a single time in the entire year.
This is why California wild fires are partially "natural." A lot of areas in California are extremely dry because of how little rainfall they get. Which naturally increases the chance of forest fires.
The wind
I live just north of the Pallisades Fire. When the winds are blowing in my direction, the sky is black or red.
I think a lot of people who aren’t familiar with LA assume that we’re all living in crammed downtown housing or spacious rich mansions. I live in an urban neighborhood, surrounded by schools. All of them have been closed, most have been turned into evacuation centers for people, animals or both.
People are really coming together right now. No one deserves what’s happening. I hope no one else has to experience this in their lifetime. It’s terrifying.
Prayers from Modesto ❤ I left the foothills after the Paradise fire. The best piece of mind is living away from all this. Good luck to you 🙏
Your neighborhood is surrounded by schools? Don't they need like 1 school for every 10 neighborhoods?
@@Elavationproductions I live in Tennessee and have five schools around me. The last time I had only two schools nearby I lived in a village and one of them was an Amish school.
@@Elavationproductionsthere’s an elementary school, jr high and high school, as well as a few charter schools.
I live all the way over in Van Nuys and The smoke is coming here now
When Nor-Cal was on fire back in fall of 2020, I was enrolled in an online biology course in college. The professor and students blamed Trump for the entire situation. I wonder who they will blame now???
If you were paying attention, Trump doesnt take climate change seriously. These fires are a result of people who don’t care to do anything about climate change.
Obama
@@cocoino2307 Yea, thanks Obama.
They will have their right to blame Trump in 10 days, if the fire lasts.
the entire bay was just bright orange for a couple days i remember
The NJ Pine Barrens used to have enormous wild fires... until after one million-plus acre burn in the 1960's they finally decided to start annual controlled burns. No massive wildfires ever since!
They need to do this for northern Utah. There is a huge and famous valley that has a pretty fire synonymous name and the last time I went through there there was do much dead fall and brush that I'm surprised that it still hasn't caught on fire. It's only a matter of time.
Did you ever stop to think about the difference in complexity between burning backwoods bf Egypt place in FLAT terrain New Jersey vs on STEEP ass hills with multi million dollar homes? You come be burn boss then put your name on it for if something goes sideways.
Not that it’s related to this topic, but Pine Barrens best Sopranos episode lol.
@@BenjaminDavis-l5y lol bro thinks that fire cares about how much your house costs.😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@BenjaminDavis-l5y What??
the craziest part is how the wind at the same time blows really strong.
California is endgame content.
Well, currently level 26. These levels are becoming more difficult every level 😮💨
The Burning Steppes.
Corrupted Vaal Area
@@memeticks3610 Defiantly something out of warcraft lol.
Im seeing this shit plus the extreme cold and I cant help but have end of the world vibes @JustBrowsing123
The mayor is off playing a Vuvuzela while the city burns. Truly a modern day Nero.
Dude... that doesn't make any sense. Are you a bot
@@MeanMrMustard-aka-DaDijonDon Yes I am a bot...
I need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle
@@neuromancer886 ............... "The machines rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire. Their war to exterminate mankind had raged for decades, but the final battle would not be fought in the future. It would be fought here, in our present. Tonight.."
@@MeanMrMustard-aka-DaDijonDon Yeah this has gone on long enough... I will not be back
The near-totality of California's inner lake drained into the Pacific hundreds of thousands of years ago.
The remaining pool was relatively tiny and very shallow, only 10-30 feet deep. That pool is kept dry most of the time because the water is used for farming, which is a choice, not a mistake.
The mountains have COLLOSAL amount of water simply allowed to flow into the ocean when most of it could be diverted into reservoirs with reasonable mitigation for species protection. That dry lake people lament about? It can be filled and more by re-routing water that goes into the Pacific.
There is no good reason to keep California into perpetual water insecurity.
There is no good reason to refuse to do controlled burns to prevent exactly what is happening right now.
There is if you financially benefit from the crisis
Their is plenty of profit to be made offering insurance scams to new home owners. and keeping the fires available is something to ensure that profitability.
@@AlxndrHQbingo.
Always remember when you ask "why did the mayor/governor/senator do/not do this or that" the answer is always "because they'll benefit financially from it".
It's too hard to build dams or reservoirs anymore in CA.
A lot of the farmers water in the central valley was taken away claiming the bay areas Needed it more, and then was reported to dump all the water into the ocean.
A lot of farmers now have to use GM crops that can handle less water and it's costing them more than ever. Now that the state government is pushing, no one asked or voted for, lack of diesel fuel for all the equipment everyone Needs to survive...they are pushing most of the agriculture communities to sell their lands for cheap...
I remember when I was a kid growing up in San Diego. In 2003 we had some crazy fires and it pretty much looked just like this, I lived in a valley and the entire mountainsides surrounding the town were basically on fire, and it rained ash for weeks.
Same thing happened in Jasper Alberta...zero forest management was done around the town...and then half the town burnt down.
This doesn't look good for California's carbon footprint...tsk tsk tsk.
Explain to me how "viewing the world through different lenses" is an important skill for firefighters please.
So they can better watch the inferno in helpless despair, duh.
Useful skill for any profession where you have to deal with people. It's a question of empathy. Fires don't need empathy but maybe the people carrying buckets of water to keep their home from burning up do
@@trainerorange0632 you know what firefighters actually need? Training on how to better fight fires.
@trainerorange0632I'd rather have my house saved from fire than having some dei hire show me empathy after my house has burned down.
One tiny fish. Apparently every other animal in California, including all those deer that we've seen fleeing the fires with their massive burns, all the birds that don't migrate overwinter, all the hares, the bears, the native sheep, and so on...they don't matter a damn, but that fish does.
The amount of lengths these people (environmentalists) will lie to kill their species is enormous.
In 1853 australia began giving eucalyptus trees to california, now that they have matured, one of the defining features of eucalyptus trees are that they need fire to germinate, their leaves are full of oils and they are constantly self pruning to set the conditions for fires.
So what i am saying is, australia sends their regards. 🤠
Crickey...
Those are mostly in San Diego, there aren't alot of eucalyptus trees in these current fires
Also, sorry they tend to explode if they get hot enough.
@@jessbellis9510 ... So we'll know when they hit the eucalyptus when the explosions start?
I remember that as one of the crazy ridiculous things Trump said, that all sane people need to discount because Trump said it.
The dog in the house: Everything is _NOT_ fine.
I read an article, online, that they successfully escaped.
@@DrDuckMDthey live in california they have excaped nothing they flee a fire into the rest of the nightmare dude that state has fallen 1984 666 style
My house was burned down in this fire.
About 6 months ago, our insurance was dropped for being "high-risk". Luckily, last month we were able to find a replacement insurance company. However, it came at a steep price. Many of my peers didn't have the same luxury.
I pray for all of those who were harmed and lost their homes. And for those who are merely observing and lending prayers, I am grateful.
Edit: To all the people using this comment as a place to make a political jab, you either have no human soul, or you need to go outside. Not everything is about politics. People are dying and losing their homes, and you sit in the quiet solace of your room to make a backhanded remark to someone who just lost everything they own. You people are pitiful. Also, I should note that I didn't vote for this. I've voted red all my life.
I'm so sorry, I'll be praying for you and everyone who has to deal with this. 🙏❤️
Goodluck having Insurance even payout in the first place.
I'm sorry this happened to you, but I bet your replacement company will drop you first chance they get after this, I know it's home but...
Praying for you and the rest of our Americans stuck in this mess.
So... Are you leaving CA after this?
During the Australian bushfires just before Covid hit, I remember seeing footage of firefighters fighting fires and the huge streams of water from their firehoses... it would just evaporate instantly about 3 feet before it ever even reached the flames.
The water wasn't even touching the most superficial outer parts of the flames at the very edge of the bushfires. The amount of heat that it was giving off was insane.
Buffy The Vampire Slayer tried to warn us about the California Hellmouth.
Ha! Good catch
Damn, now you remind me that
"There's a fire crisis!"
"Did you hear something? Anyways, the department isn't gay enough"
Idk I think the fire department has always been gay enough.
1:52 the one that said open the window has a deathwish.
Yes ok
Epic selfie time
I mean.. him and whoever stacked up all of the wooden chairs right outside the house 😮
@realMaverickBuckley OMG I didn't even notice the chairs.
Why is that my wife though…. 😂
“Let’s blame China on this!”
“For what?!”
“Idk for selling us lighters?”
17:40 yes, controlled burns. They use to happen in the 1900s and then various environmental groups shut it down. Then they started having these issues. Now certain southern areas do controlled burns and they haven't had nearly the same amount of issues. San Diegos mountain region burned down in 2003 and they have been much better about forestry maintenance since then.
18:53 that woman has absolutely no business being a public servant, let alone a fire chief. I hope that she resigns immediately.
Might be a dei hire.
They provably gona give her a "extra bonus" for the amazing job
She will be awarded a price for her strong and independent bravery.
What you will learn ( if anyone cares to report it) is that this fire chief spoke up about what her department needed and she was ignored. I will bet that the fire chief brings the receipts. (2) News packages are heavily edited. So that news report where she is presented for her LGBTQ does not show everything she said. I wish I had heard the chief say that she wanted ' not a number' but the most qualified. There is an edit at that point, so we don't get to hear everything she said. (3) A fire chief is a political position not a fire fighting position. It is middle management in local politics, sometimes selected for being an HR professional, so a fire chief is groomed to speak political talking points when a camera is in their face. A male fire chief is expected to play ball with the local politics just the same. As middle management it is damned if you do, damned if you don't.
If the evacuation goes 3 blocks south in pasadena I have to evacuate. I have no family, no car and nowhere to go either, yeah it's terrifying
You can come stay with me in silverlake. Im down here visiting relatives we have room.
What’s your plan?
I would honestly leave early because of that.
@@SicilianAmericanDreams bro u dont do sussy shit at night tho right
@backstabber3537 ? Im a single parent in college a regular dude. My relatives have a huge house im just tryna be nice we have the space. We are fortunate.
seems like it's right out of "this is the end" movie. On another note, it's been stated multiple times by fire crews there is little to no water there. Its absolutely pointless for anyone to head there in attempt to help them fight it. It's going to burn until the fuel is completely used up or there is a ton rain for days on end.
People are going to blame the insurance companies when it is the governments fault for making the situation so dangerous.
No people will blame insurance companies when they call it an act of god and refuse to payout for burnt down houses
I mean…. You are comparing a turd sandwich to a shit salad. lol
Its not even the governments fault either tbf. Its nature. You chose to move to an area with that kind of nature in the first place and now youre finding out. Its the same as when idiots build their little stick house in a tornado prone area and then once its inevitably knocked down they just repeat and do it again. F around find out
They aren't blaming the insurance companies, they're mad at them for not helping after the fires happen
This definitely feel like arson. And insurance companies has a history of doing thing's like this
I recall one of the California government officials planning a bill that would allow the power company to siphon energy from electric vehicles during certain periods. Imagine a fire like this breaks out and your electric car is dead because the power grid has been siphoning its battery. I'm guessing that bill will be shelved at this point.
That is terrifying. I would just buy a bicycle at that point.
@Jonkin715 You don't already have one?
Yeah I'm sticking to my V8 till the wheels fall off
@docvolt5214 Legit question, wouldn't a combustion engine just die in a wild fire though? No O2 haha
that house has a fire supression system you can see the water.
Alabama is almost entirely covered in forest. Tree farming is huge there. I always saw them doing controlled burns and clearing out the brush and they never had any of these fire issues. They wouldn't even cut fire breaks between the trees and the powerlines in california because it would effect a vulnerable mouse population lmao
same in ky and 20 years 1 fire got out of controle. but they did evently get it. but it was a smokey week in my town for shure,
California is very different lol, different climate, geography. And you're full of shit, when there's a fire they do what they have to do.
This begs the question how did those vulnerable mice survive so long without humans protecting them
@@jwr2904I believe their point was the people in charge were grossly incompetent when it comes to managing the forest area which could have prevented at least the severity of this situation.
@@jwr2904 "California is very different."
Yeah, it has a liberal government who'd rather siphon tax money for their own corrupt desires, rather than actually manage the state properly. Huge difference.
This is what happens when the black woman mayor cuts the fire budget by 20 million and the first ever woman fire chief focuses on hiring more women.
And the governor dumps your water in the ocean to save the delta smelt.
This is also what happens when you have a women running the show.
An example being the mayor of LA (a women), and the head chief of the LAFD (a women).
You are so chronically online it's insane. Keep your!
JFC 🤦♂️, it’s nothing to do with her skin colour.
@@Bertiesghost Statistical averages exist.
Forgot to mention they sent all the extra firefighting gear to Ukraine
The reason the bulldozer operator isn't holding down "W" is the same reason that snow plows work with an angle to their blade. If you keep piling more and more mass in front of you with a straight blade, you will very quickly make things worse. If the bulldozer had a "V" type blade - with the point at the furthest distance from the vehicle - to push everything to the side, going straight "might" work to clear a path. But the blade is straight, and so physics simply doesn't work that way.
The bulldpzer tracks doesnt get any grip on asphalt, clearly visible on the clip that they slid.
Two things that are really weird about this: 1. She went on vacation just before this. 2. Insurance stopped and cancelled fire insurance right before this happened for tons of people. There’s going to be a lot of lawsuits, but on my mind is why did these two events happen in a way like they knew it would happen.
Predicting climate change isn't rocket science. In fact the S in ESG investing which MAGA wants to kill stands for Sustainability. A mutual fund which uses ESG would not be investing in Insurance companies with high exposure to climate risks like fires, hurricanes and rising sea levels. If sea levels rise 20 feet half of Florida would be underwater..
because Trump recently threatened to release the Epstein list, i'm not saying "oh orange man bad" or whatever dumb shit mind, just that there's a pretty clear correlation between that happening and a lot of politicians and celebrities suddenly jumping ship
As someone who lived in CA, our politicians always go on vacation and insurance companies have been leaving CA for years.
Aliens, surely
@@doxas156 lol "aliens" que the classic history channel guy.
I know it probably started naturally, but these fires can be predicted. And I truly think insurances removed coverage knowing this was about to happen. I really want Gavin to resign if he doesnt do the right thing and forces insurances to cover this.
What a progressive Fire Department. What's that? Grandpa who can barely move died from a wildfire? Well maybe it was his fault for being there, but if a firefighter did show up to scold him for his own negligence, at least they'd make sure their own skin color would match grandpas. I'm so glad they're prioritizing all the politically correct things when it comes to life and death scenarios, like skin color, or gender.
I live right outside of evacuation zone 2 of the Hurst fire. We're literally surrounded by fires in the San Fernando Valley, except for to the east. It's a mess
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
LET'S TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY WHILE OUR STATE BURNS TO THE FUCKING GROUND!!!
And I'm a sacred good guy who is praying for the well-being of everyone, so by god you'd better not annoy me by, say, pointing out any actual reasons why this fire is so bad!
It's like Newsom is the high priest and this is his kingdom, his glorious inferno as he flashes that devilish smile from ear to ear.
we have had some crazy bush fires in Australia but we burn off regularly which doesn't stop them but
definitely makes dealing with them when they happen so much easier
The saddest part living in calimexico is you can’t get fire insurance
Reminds me a lot of the Hawaii fire. There's no water for the fire hydrant? In the middle of winter? And many of the people's insurance coverage was cancelled right before this happened?
How much you want to bet Blackrock ends up buying the land?
Thought the same shit friend.
Ding ding ding.
At a certain point, incompetence is merely a shield to deflect engineered outcomes.
How much lithium and cobalt is in those hills?
You know we haven't had rain for 6 months, right? We haven't had any rain this winter down here in the south, and there's a lot of fire and firefighters
I served in the National Guard as a nedic and i responded to 3 major fires in California to help evacuations, damage control, and unfortunately, body recovery and EVERY SINGLE ONE of these fires were preventable.
What part of "They WANT this to happen" do people NOT UNDERSTAND? Or does everyone think it's a coincidence the same thing happened at the 2020 election? They light it up, and then apply for HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of federal funding. This is how you steal taxpayer dollars - at EVERYONE ELSE'S expense. Evil people run California. Dozens of ANTIFA were getting arrested for arson in 2020 - and the media blamed the fires on "Global Warming".
Brick walls around your property and no vegetation near it on both sides is absolutely necessary to avoid the fire getting in. A minimum of 4 feet of brick fence and a minimum of 2 feet of brick pavement on both sides and no shrubs or trees at least 5 feet from the fence
Californian here:
The main takeaway is that the current fire chief is a DEI hire, and it's no surprise that firefighters do not even have water to put out the fires.
That is all.
DEI hire? Are you purposely being ignorant? She has served for 22 years as a Firefighter, Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and Fire Chief.
Crowley's bio that her 'highest priority' is being devoted to Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, or DEI, a much-hated practice of corporations among conservatives.
@@JonKovach and she was probably pushed up through those ranks due to affirmative action..
@@JonKovachyea she is for sure there because of DEI , and she vowed to promote DEI in her speech.
Water is racist!
13:00- My grandparents had a wood furnace and if the fire went out inside of it you’d start by putting dryer logs that have probably been dead longer in there first and then as they were being incinerated you’d slowly insert the fresher more wet logs because the temperature will eventually rise high enough it will burn any log. I think that can be applied to a forest fire. If you leave the dead wood lay around and then it catches on fire and there’s enough of it around eventually the temperature is high enough to burn the living trees as well, especially in a dry season it wouldn’t take much.
They are going to get denied from the insurance company
It's sad to think about
Sounds like they wanna start droppin like healthcare CEOs.
They did about a year ago after the waves of fires been hitting Cali due to the homeless lighting them early mornings.
no way this is west LA. insurance only denies poor and middle class people not the richest people in the country.
Insurance is a scam
The ONLY way they can profit and exist...... is they have to TAKE more money from their clients, than they pay out
SIMPLE.
Just like a casino..... same exact principle
I remember how all across the state of CA there were propositions to cut finding to fire, forestry and warden and rangers department.
I live on the edge between Glendale and Burbank. I'm fortunate enough to not have been in a fire, but we're literally surrounded in a triangle (circle, now) of Hell. Never seen this in my 15 years of being here. The scariest part is that the mountain I live on could light up like gas fumes if even a single ember blows our way
Good luck, my parents are in Shadow Hills, so same problem for them.
@@Theliquidchaos praying for yall
Controlled burns are great BEFORE the forest fire. Too late DURING the forest fire