Great video. I’ve become quite the viewer as I traded my F80 m3 for 2021 Alfa QV. Ordered your flaps and installed them last weekend. Thanks for your content.
Go for it. It’s an amazing piece of kit and will retain imo its unique presence over the years. Here in Europe I was tempted to go for one of the last examples with the Acrapovic center exhaust but I did not pull the trigger. Then came my brand new Giulia Quadrifoglio and I kind of forgot about the 4C
Everyone says the same, yet for all that's been said I've yet to hear the obvious comparison to the *Lotus Exige.* Both share a lightweight ethos with comparable dimensions, pricing and similar power. And, of course, both are now discontinued. They say "Italians do it better" ... _but not if the British get there first!_ 😎
Just pulled the trigger today on a Black 2020 4C Spider w/yellow calipers, yellow interior stitching, and the carbon fiber trim package. Now my lineup is complete... Stelvio (two, actually), Giulia QV, and 4C.
awesome i honestly regret not buying this car after i reviewed it but i have too many cars and not enough garage space which is always a problem for us car fanatics
oh yeah living here just outright sucks for cars it is brutal and a disgrace how badly the roads are. taxes keep going up and the crooked politicians keeps robbing our infrastructure. Time to relocate officially soon.
Car makers are obsessed with high horsepower nowadays, it's the lazy way of making cars fast. Lightweight is a better option. Lightweight is like horsepower you can use 100% all the time. The high bhp cars have to first rev up the engine and overcome the weight before they accelerate, and you feel that weight every time when you take a corner. Drive a Audi RS5 and then a 4C and you will realize what a true sport car should be.
Oh man, between this one and the other red one you drove I don't think you've ever been able to switch to dynamic mode! It really transforms the car and addresses your transmission complaints. I have the blocks installed on mine, I may have to drive up to NY so you can finally experience one the way it's supposed to be! Thanks for the review and all of your others, I love your channel.
Great video. There are indeed upgraded shifters from various companies. I've had mine for 2 years now, and it was the first sports car I have ever owned without a manual transmission. 2 years in and I no longer desire the manual box, I now feel it would take my hands away from where they should be. I certainly never thought I would ever say that. I have the same feelings of surprise with the ride. I have lower back issues, but no issues with this car, even after a couple of hours. When I bought it I liked it. After two years I now love it, and don't think I'll ever leave it.
Great video! Would you ever think if trying to put a manual in the QV? Those parts exist and it would probably be an easier swap than a 4C. Would be a cool video to see because I haven't heard of anyone in the US converting a Giulia even though it was a large criticism when they were first announced.
Maybe the other you drove had track pack suspension and this did not? These really are unique, the carbon fiber construction, the look, the low volume. Going forward I agree we will not see any cars like this anymore, you hardly even do today especially in this price range. Destined for the right ones to be really collectible.
Extend this car and put backseats in it. Upgrade the dash and you have a car that will sell. The car is awkwardly small, add backseats you will extend it just perfectly
I AM BUYING ONE. THE SAME COLOR AND THE SPIDER,BUT BLACK SEATS WITH YELLOW STITCHING. I was looking for a red one to match my red 500 Abarth and Maserati Gran Sport,but I came across a black one that is awesome with 7000 miles and 2018.
this engine can make well over 350hp my friends have theirs modded i wish it was a manual gearbox the paddles are hard to regulate with the engine and gearing i feel.
Made no sense to do a 1.7 as no other car used it in the US market. Some testers say it ran out of steam-not what you want from a track car which this thing is begging to be. 2 liter pumped up to 300 hp would have been awesome.
@@paulbugoni2846 They couldnt or cant use a different engine for the US market and another for the rest of the world. It what is it man. A manufacturer does not make a car thinking about people doing engine swaps.
It’s a beauty.... Per the Sound of Music: “Regretfully they tell us But firmly they compel us To say goodbye to you. So long Farewell Aufwiedersehn Goodnight I hate to go and leave this pretty sight So long Farewell Aufwiedersehn Adeiu
Till 2018 4C is lighter but we have to fix camber & caster. I have done it is mega. I put also onlhis strada corsa. Less 3.5 cm in front and less 3 cm back. It is working super. I Love my Baby.
Thanks for sharing, what have you done to your suspension if you can share here that would be awesome. this 2020 felt so much better than the 2016s ive driven by a huge margin.
@@autofanaticcars yes but is weight 80 kg more. Mine is just 965 kg with fuel tank full and all liquids. I made all the Kit camber and Suspensions by Scara73. You can see the videos in TH-cam, mine 4C showed is the black Coupe’ (he is a famous tuner in Italy with very very strong history on Alfa 4C)
Outside one of the most beautifull cars in the world , very good performance from 0-100 km/h 4,5 second, but i don t like shape of steering whell, and speed meter dome.
yeah the steering wheel is a bit funky but once you drive it for a few minutes you get use to it easily, my main complaint are the cheap small plastic shifter paddles because this car has an actual dual clutch gearbox and they should have done something more sporty like on the 8C or the new QV models with the column mounted metal paddles.
@@autofanaticcars My '15 LE needed an alignment from the beginning. I ended up getting it aligned at a store chain here in AZ called Brakes Plus. They documented the before and after for me to look at. I also changed the tires to the Pilot Sport 4S and overall its a night and day difference. My 4C doesn't suffer from tramming anymore. I could only imagine what the blocks people add would do. It is currently getting its timing belt replaced and soon I will begin to upgrade it with some Scara73 parts as well as get his tune for the ECU and a rev/torque limit change for the TCU. It should be a little monster after that.
very and surprisingly i get more beat up in the Shelby Gt350 than this go figure, i think the super light and stiff chassis and short wheelbase makes it easy to hit the horrible roads we have with little to no effect, the car does not bounce in the rear like the Shelby on our roads which is why
Also make a guilia with no roof. Same look just a maybac convertible- no roof. It would sell if you have a exact version of a guila but it had no roof.
I had a LE 4c many things have been said about this car and not all good. However on looks alone it makes it into the super car catogary in my opinion. Time will tell if this was truely one of the great Alfa's one thing is for sure my QV is already.
the roads here are outright dangerous and a disgrace for the highest taxes we pay this is pushing us to move out of here very soon I really dislike the area more and more.
I had the 2015 when it first came out and loved it, imperfections and all. You have the roof on wrong though- the front tucks under the windshield too CF piece. Even dealers make this mistake and it’s horrible for the roof. I wish we’d get a new 4C…
Really enjoy your videos. Definitely influence me with considering the Alfa Romeo brand. Now have a Giulia and a 4C. I happen to notice that the car in this video has the same protection on the door sill that I have an my 4C. I have been looking to replace the protection as it is all scratched up. Unfortunately am finding no joy in tracking down the item. Even the Alfa dealers not able to offer any assistance. Wondering if you know anything about replacing the part. Thanks
If you decide to get one get the tributo 33. There are still a couple available and this is really going to be the final 4c with colored carbon fiber tub. Looks amazing
That’s a really cool thing but just like a mclaren a small fender bender can total out the car. It’s a fantastic car but talk about a ruined day if you hit a pothole or drop a tire off while carving canyons and break a front subframe tub mount.
@@autofanaticcars buy. Value is growing everywhere. Also in USA finally you starts to understand this car. Boxter is a everyday car (value drop); 4C is totally different. It is like compare a very good old wine (you can drink time to time enjoyng the specific moment with a very good german beer which you can drink everyday). Depends os what you want. In a world electrify a car like 4C which has a Huge Soul will grow up a lot in her Value)
Yes the Price will one day explode. 2 years ago I want buy one and the price was here in Europe 45.000€ used and now the lowest price for an used 4c is 60.000€ This car will be like the Lancia Stratos😉
I wonder if they opted for the drivetrain due to packaging and of course budgeting for development costs, Alfa at the time of 4C inception did not have the money or resources they have today which is unfortunate. I hope they come out with a new sports car soon that new Maserati MC20 was supposed to be an Alfa Romeo but FCA felt it was better suited to revamp the Maserati brand which is aging so poorly and all their models are so outdated. The MC20 is on my radar as well.
I agree... this car is awesome. I really don’t understand why this car doesn’t get more credit. It is an amazingly gorgeous machine
The soft top was not on properly. The red tab front and center goes in the channel on the windshield frame. It was probably catching wind.
Great video. I’ve become quite the viewer as I traded my F80 m3 for 2021 Alfa QV. Ordered your flaps and installed them last weekend. Thanks for your content.
Great to hear!
Buy it, as investment the 4C will do very well, prices are already rising
Go for it. It’s an amazing piece of kit and will retain imo its unique presence over the years. Here in Europe I was tempted to go for one of the last examples with the Acrapovic center exhaust but I did not pull the trigger. Then came my brand new Giulia Quadrifoglio and I kind of forgot about the 4C
Just got an '18 in June. Love it.
I think you're in love with Alfa Romeo's cars, tons of character!
i love all cool cars and this one is definitely cool
never was intended to be profitable...it was a launched as a HALO car and was always planned to be discontinued in 2020
your Giulia look so big compared to the 4c, love the the car and the red seats
Everyone says the same, yet for all that's been said I've yet to hear the obvious comparison to the *Lotus Exige.* Both share a lightweight ethos with comparable dimensions, pricing and similar power. And, of course, both are now discontinued.
They say "Italians do it better" ... _but not if the British get there first!_ 😎
It looks like the Lotus to me.
Just pulled the trigger today on a Black 2020 4C Spider w/yellow calipers, yellow interior stitching, and the carbon fiber trim package. Now my lineup is complete... Stelvio (two, actually), Giulia QV, and 4C.
awesome i honestly regret not buying this car after i reviewed it but i have too many cars and not enough garage space which is always a problem for us car fanatics
What a beauty 😘👌🏻
That patch on the saw mill at the end should be illegal it’s so violent regardless if there is construction going on.
oh yeah living here just outright sucks for cars it is brutal and a disgrace how badly the roads are. taxes keep going up and the crooked politicians keeps robbing our infrastructure. Time to relocate officially soon.
@@autofanaticcars Well, that's what you get when you keeping voting Blue! 🙄
@@citizenfour9622 Yea red states are all doing fantastically. Every single one GOOD POINT
Car makers are obsessed with high horsepower nowadays, it's the lazy way of making cars fast. Lightweight is a better option. Lightweight is like horsepower you can use 100% all the time.
The high bhp cars have to first rev up the engine and overcome the weight before they accelerate, and you feel that weight every time when you take a corner. Drive a Audi RS5 and then a 4C and you will realize what a true sport car should be.
Oh man, between this one and the other red one you drove I don't think you've ever been able to switch to dynamic mode! It really transforms the car and addresses your transmission complaints. I have the blocks installed on mine, I may have to drive up to NY so you can finally experience one the way it's supposed to be!
Thanks for the review and all of your others, I love your channel.
Oh please drive up one day I would love to drive your car all set up. Reach out direct anytime to talk more.
Great video. There are indeed upgraded shifters from various companies. I've had mine for 2 years now, and it was the first sports car I have ever owned without a manual transmission. 2 years in and I no longer desire the manual box, I now feel it would take my hands away from where they should be. I certainly never thought I would ever say that. I have the same feelings of surprise with the ride. I have lower back issues, but no issues with this car, even after a couple of hours. When I bought it I liked it. After two years I now love it, and don't think I'll ever leave it.
thanks for the feedback I actually miss driving this 4C
Manual M32 gearbox by GM for 1750 engine in 159 tbi and Giulietta QV (Veloce). :)
Great video! Would you ever think if trying to put a manual in the QV? Those parts exist and it would probably be an easier swap than a 4C. Would be a cool video to see because I haven't heard of anyone in the US converting a Giulia even though it was a large criticism when they were first announced.
There is manual gearbox for 1750 engine. Its M32 from GM that was in 159 tbi an Giulietta QV (Veloce).
Geez, on the covetable top, you are NOT supposed to see the red warning dot. It's supposed to be tucked under! 🤦♂
Maybe the other you drove had track pack suspension and this did not? These really are unique, the carbon fiber construction, the look, the low volume. Going forward I agree we will not see any cars like this anymore, you hardly even do today especially in this price range. Destined for the right ones to be really collectible.
Extend this car and put backseats in it. Upgrade the dash and you have a car that will sell. The car is awkwardly small, add backseats you will extend it just perfectly
I AM BUYING ONE. THE SAME COLOR AND THE SPIDER,BUT BLACK SEATS WITH YELLOW STITCHING. I was looking for a red one to match my red 500 Abarth and Maserati Gran Sport,but I came across a black one that is awesome with 7000 miles and 2018.
What are you paying for one I regret not buying this black one in the video
It’s comparable to when Ferrari made the Dino; it really is a modern Dino
Love the 4C, was always jaded that they put the 1.7 in it and not the 2.0.
this engine can make well over 350hp my friends have theirs modded i wish it was a manual gearbox the paddles are hard to regulate with the engine and gearing i feel.
Made no sense to do a 1.7 as no other car used it in the US market. Some testers say it ran out of steam-not what you want from a track car which this thing is begging to be. 2 liter pumped up to 300 hp would have been awesome.
The 2.0 L engine did not even exist when they launched the 4c
1.8 tbi
@@paulbugoni2846 They couldnt or cant use a different engine for the US market and another for the rest of the world. It what is it man. A manufacturer does not make a car thinking about people doing engine swaps.
Italians do it better. ❤❤
It’s a beauty....
Per the Sound of Music:
“Regretfully they tell us
But firmly they compel us
To say goodbye to you.
So long
Farewell
Aufwiedersehn
Goodnight
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight
So long
Farewell
Aufwiedersehn
Adeiu
Put it in your stable already ;)
Sorry, but I would buy the corvette before this.
Great review. Back issues fu.
Till 2018 4C is lighter but we have to fix camber & caster. I have done it is mega. I put also onlhis strada corsa. Less 3.5 cm in front and less 3 cm back. It is working super. I Love my Baby.
Thanks for sharing, what have you done to your suspension if you can share here that would be awesome. this 2020 felt so much better than the 2016s ive driven by a huge margin.
@@autofanaticcars yes but is weight 80 kg more. Mine is just 965 kg with fuel tank full and all liquids. I made all the Kit camber and Suspensions by Scara73. You can see the videos in TH-cam, mine 4C showed is the black Coupe’ (he is a famous tuner in Italy with very very strong history on Alfa 4C)
Outside one of the most beautifull cars in the world , very good performance from 0-100 km/h 4,5 second, but i don t like shape of steering whell, and speed meter dome.
yeah the steering wheel is a bit funky but once you drive it for a few minutes you get use to it easily, my main complaint are the cheap small plastic shifter paddles because this car has an actual dual clutch gearbox and they should have done something more sporty like on the 8C or the new QV models with the column mounted metal paddles.
What was the price?
nothing wrong with alignment on the early cars....your friends just do not know how to drive an Alfa
lots of things wrong for NYC roads the alignments are terrible on these cars even my new 2021 QV has screwed up alignment from the factory.
@@autofanaticcars My '15 LE needed an alignment from the beginning. I ended up getting it aligned at a store chain here in AZ called Brakes Plus. They documented the before and after for me to look at. I also changed the tires to the Pilot Sport 4S and overall its a night and day difference. My 4C doesn't suffer from tramming anymore. I could only imagine what the blocks people add would do. It is currently getting its timing belt replaced and soon I will begin to upgrade it with some Scara73 parts as well as get his tune for the ECU and a rev/torque limit change for the TCU. It should be a little monster after that.
Have you heard that they are underrated from the factory with horsepower?
I have not heard that but it is common on most cars today this feels much faster than the 240hp would suspect
Fuck me im gonna get one of this.
Such a cool little car.
very and surprisingly i get more beat up in the Shelby Gt350 than this go figure, i think the super light and stiff chassis and short wheelbase makes it easy to hit the horrible roads we have with little to no effect, the car does not bounce in the rear like the Shelby on our roads which is why
@@autofanaticcars I was just beat up on those roads on my Diavel yesterday on my way to get a root canal in hartsdale. 🤣
Great video thx. Loving the new 4C, especially in black. Beautiful interior too👌
Also make a guilia with no roof. Same look just a maybac convertible- no roof. It would sell if you have a exact version of a guila but it had no roof.
at the rate Alfa Romeo is failing due to bad management i do not think we will see another Coupe anytime soon.
@@autofanaticcars Failing to you. AZ is buying these left and right
I had a LE 4c many things have been said about this car and not all good. However on looks alone it makes it into the super car catogary in my opinion. Time will tell if this was truely one of the great Alfa's one thing is for sure my QV is already.
The car has a massive tramlining problem. I love it, but it's really a downside.
Love how you drive this beauty over our shit Westchester roads. This car is the next Dino.
the roads here are outright dangerous and a disgrace for the highest taxes we pay this is pushing us to move out of here very soon I really dislike the area more and more.
@@autofanaticcars Folks posting "Buy it!" really have no idea. The only decent roads are the Saw Mill and Merritt parkways!
So few likes, why's that?
Alfa till wheelchair!
I had the 2015 when it first came out and loved it, imperfections and all. You have the roof on wrong though- the front tucks under the windshield too CF piece. Even dealers make this mistake and it’s horrible for the roof. I wish we’d get a new 4C…
yes we did not touch the roof during the drive this is how the dealer gave us the car that day, i regret not buying this 4C
Anyone catch the QV in the video at the stop light? Lol
Really enjoy your videos. Definitely influence me with considering the Alfa Romeo brand. Now have a Giulia and a 4C. I happen to notice that the car in this video has the same protection on the door sill that I have an my 4C. I have been looking to replace the protection as it is all scratched up. Unfortunately am finding no joy in tracking down the item. Even the Alfa dealers not able to offer any assistance. Wondering if you know anything about replacing the part. Thanks
Any place that does automotive PPF should be able to replace that piece of film. I had it redone on my 4C Spider as well for the same reason.
If you decide to get one get the tributo 33. There are still a couple available and this is really going to be the final 4c with colored carbon fiber tub. Looks amazing
saw a few of those online dealers are asking well over MSRP i can get the black one here for MSRP
You are Romanian!
no i am not
Really wish they had made the Quadrifoglio version of this...
I agree
Great review, I collect mine next week. Many thanks from the UK. ……
Hope you enjoy it!
You need one of these in your garage.
The 4 c is a unique car
What kinda sucks is you can get a comparable 718 Cayman/Boxster depending if you want a fixed roof or drop head.
but this car is full carbon fiber i think thats truly the selling point for sure and I love it. so tempted to buy this car right now
That’s a really cool thing but just like a mclaren a small fender bender can total out the car. It’s a fantastic car but talk about a ruined day if you hit a pothole or drop a tire off while carving canyons and break a front subframe tub mount.
@@autofanaticcars buy. Value is growing everywhere. Also in USA finally you starts to understand this car. Boxter is a everyday car (value drop); 4C is totally different. It is like compare a very good old wine (you can drink time to time enjoyng the specific moment with a very good german beer which you can drink everyday). Depends os what you want. In a world electrify a car like 4C which has a Huge Soul will grow up a lot in her Value)
yes i agree the values of the 4C will go up in the future and the car is very unique and special
Yes the Price will one day explode. 2 years ago I want buy one and the price was here in Europe 45.000€ used and now the lowest price for an used 4c is 60.000€
This car will be like the Lancia Stratos😉
Very nice 👍
Thanks for the visit
If it came in a manual I’d have one too
I wonder if they opted for the drivetrain due to packaging and of course budgeting for development costs, Alfa at the time of 4C inception did not have the money or resources they have today which is unfortunate. I hope they come out with a new sports car soon that new Maserati MC20 was supposed to be an Alfa Romeo but FCA felt it was better suited to revamp the Maserati brand which is aging so poorly and all their models are so outdated. The MC20 is on my radar as well.
@@autofanaticcars Have you seen the Alfa Romeo Nivola concept? There will always be a place for a roadster in Alfa's stable!