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Can we get more on Giles' Sarto once its built up and being ridden? Thats a super cool story and be cool to see it fully completed
"... Granted it is a small market " 🤐
It's awesome to see a bike with this geometry though - it's great to see something built elegantly within such specific tolerances
Lmao. That was a little bit funny. Had a very small laugh. Just a short one.
I heard it and had to check the comments.
The Sarto is very interesting, I never thought about with people with dwarfism riding a bike. But it's great that they are catered to even with a complete custom build.
Para cycling in general is a world full of very interesting bikes with loads of custom parts that you'll never see on the shelf of an LBS.
Kudos for persevering with that Sarto. Looks the part.
Couldn’t help but snigger when he said “Granted, it’s a small market”
Sarto makes custom frames only. That even includes the paintjob. These frames are still cheaper than the China-made, vomit-inducing ugly pieces of crap offered by Pinarello.
Voting for the canyon with the integrated bars and lack of stem length options at purchase? That’s a surprising one to make the list…
Agreed, my local bike fitter literally told me he hated them a few weeks ago.
It still has an adjustable handle bar (width wise) and a properly "endurance" lax geometry and stems that "make sense" and not 100mm+ stems. It's still much more adjustable and fits more than other fully integrated road bikes so yes should make the list.
Agreed.
So unpopular you can't even find one in stock? I agree with you kinda. But i think we are in the minority here.
Many Endurace builds come without the integrated bar/stem. The only hurdle at that point is finding stems for the wonky 1 1/4"/31.8mm steerer tube (canyon, zipp, ritchey, and giant all sell some).
LOVE that this video focuses so much on shorter riders!! I am a 158cm lady and what a nightmare it is in terms of bike choices PLUS the need to swap cranks, stems and handlebars even on the smallest frames. I have a Rose sl disk pro 45cm and a Diverge 44cm - but after this video I am definitely craving the Pinarello X. Just hope other brands follow the trend to tend to ALL riders, especially at the top bike segment (eg Specialize only carries 44 in more base variants - not the S-Works) Cheers and Kudos for the video!
Am I the only person that thinks pinerelos are down right hideous? 😂
No! I feel with you, they are vomit-induding ugly and their designers should be punished!
I love my canyon endurace. Its the first bike that fits like a glove.
oh i agreee with that so much
That Sarto is awesome! Love the story behind it.
I have been shocked so many times how much people are willing to spend on top end race bikes that they can't even ride because of the geometry. I have shopped multiple of these bikes second hand that barely have any kms on them.
People buy them as status symbols, to show off their wealth and their ability to buy them.
Those bikes are ultimately luxury items, much like an expensive Swiss made watch, designer Italian suit or German sports car.
@@vaska00762they are luxury, but they aren’t luxury for luxury’s sake. (Like gold plated iPhone)
Video needs a statement right up front from James about which brands/shops he had a relationship with or not.
He lists all sponsors / affiliates in the video descriptions 👍
Hey James, I remember you complaining how hard it is to find short cranks. Croder, a Taiwanese brand, make cranks from down to 140 mm, as well as a fitting set that's adjustable from 180 zo 140 mm and some other cool knicknacks. Thought you might be interested.
Thanks, I know, we stock em
Great video. I spent a long time researching before getting an endurance bike. I landed on the new Look Optimum and I love it.
Bikes taste is so individual I strongly dislike the Pinarello and the way it looks
I have an Canyon endurance CF SL DI2 small frame. At 5’ 10” I was surprised their app selected that frame size but it fits great. My local bike shop assembled it ( they only do a full assembly) which I thought was wise for them and ensured everything was done right. It’s been 3 years now and I think it was a great choice. I bought it because of the reviews and I needed DI2 because I can only operate the paddles from the left side due to partial use of right hand and it was the cheapest DI2 I could find with endurance frame. Have it programmed to synchronize shift with just the left paddles. Works great. My bike shop has no problems working on it and has supported me well.
That's good to hear. I'm 5' 9" and I'm a bit hesitant to get the small.
@@moustachecrow go with their recommendation. The small fits me very well. Had a bike fit at my shop and they agreed. Rite size.
That Pinarello looks like it has been left in the trunk of a car on a scorching hot summer day. It's effin' hideous! Who in their right mind spends money on such an abomination?! Sarto is a wonderful brand that makes custom frames by hand in Italy that are even cheaper than Pinarello's which are made in China. The Open Min.D bike also looks kinda' cool. And everybody at Canyon involved in the development and production of that stupid width-adjustable handlebar should be arrested and thrown in jail.
I couldn't help smiling when James said achondroplasia "is a small market". You're doing a great job and Giles' bike looks awesome!
A welcome return to the ‘traditional’ Cade video format 👍
Pinarello is a "fabulous" looking bike? Also, stem length is a zillion times more important than handlebar width. Unbelievably, Canyon does not let you specify a stem length even though it is sold online. Every online bike seller I've encountered lets you specify a stem length, bar width, and sometimes even a crank length(unimportant).
Now, let him choose 5 bikes under £1500 😜
Any love for the Specialized Diverge?
C'mon Pina looks better than Allez? Pinarello looks like it's start melting on a hot summer day
... like it* has* melted*. But agreed, the designer of thar thing should be punished, and eveyone who spends money on it should be disowned!
@@einundsiebenziger5488 English isn't my first language but appreciate correction
I know you like the appearance of the Pinarello but to me it looks like it melted.😮
For some reason the fact that James rocks a Speedmaster makes me like him even more ! Cheers :)
Most boring "expensive watch" there is!
yes absolutely beautiful watch
wait.. "likely to have pinarello ride quality"? what does that mean? How can you say something like that without "knowing"
Pinarello ride quality is having to stop every couple of minutes and puke, because their bikes are so ugly!
elves falath. l don't want do generalize because l don't know enough. but asian manufacturers (since asians are a bit smaller) make a bit shorter and smaller bikes?
1 Pinarello X
2 Giles' Sarto
3 Open Min.d
4 Canyon Endurace
5 Fairlight Secan
6 Yeti SB140
Missing a 7th? 😅
Van rysel edr af.. cheap but full untegra. Only 1,400 light enough, quick enough. Stats seem OK to me.
I know it's done for performance reasons, but I have always hated Pinarello bikes for the wavy forks. I think it looks absolutely hideous. Just a personal preference I guess.
It's also worth noting/keeping in mind that at least a couple of these brands have been flagged for poor quality production (looking at you, Canyon and Open!) by others 👀
These guys making these videos have a clear bias toward pinarello and its not because pinarello makes the best bikes. Hmm, lets think about it, do they sell Pinarello bikes?
Canyon is an automatic no sale - god damn stupid headset routed cables. Super dumb trend, ruins shift quality.
That Pinarello is one ugly MF. Great info about the Sarto though. And of course nice Moonwatch :-)
That’s a nasty fracture. Did he have surgery to repair that thing? A screw or two might have made him feel better faster.
Beats me why people think the Pinarellos are good looking. The Dogma would have to be the ugliest thing on the road.
What do you think about Look 765 OPTIMUM? Would love to hear your opinion about this bike. Apparently the most comfortable bike Look has ever made?
Am I the only one who doesn't like the look of Pinarello bikes? They always look melted as if they thrown into a vulcano
Pls tell us about MTB bikefit!! 🙏
Would be interested in your thoughts on the Look 765 Optimum, seems like it makes use of a similarly genuine "endurance" style geometry as the new Pinarello X ( unlike most other Endurance named bikes which seem to have stupidly long reach!)
My next bike is probably going to be a Fairlight. I don't know any other company putting out 120 page tech doc to prospective customers. In an industry where finding out the tire clearance on a European website is like trying to dowse for water in a desert, Fairlight have decided to shoot you in the face with the water hose of transparency.
The Pinny X looks effing awful - just like every effing Pinny
is there your video about the basso Astra in the background 😊😊😊
I'm convinced James is Clarkson's offspring the way he said this 😂😂
Should have my X5 in two days. Pinch me , i must be dreaming
Isn't the Open Mind bike 'just' a Giant with a different paintjob?
Love my FSA Super Compact handlebar
I miss bike fit Tuesday videos!
Is this just one big upright endurance geometry bike video?
I own the predecessor to the Pinarello X, a Prince FX. Design nearly undistinguishable from the F12, but a slightly higher stack. A Dogma for the comfort-seeking gentlemen at a much friendlier price. Completly underrated - hopefully the X will change that.
Thumbs up for Prince FX❤️! Such fun bike!
Pinarello knows their bread and butter, asian market.
Do you have the pinarello x5 in stock?
The only issue with Fairlight is that they don’t make smaller sizes. I’d love to have a Strael road bike. But I need a smaller size
I solved the short legs problem with Evil Chamois Hagar (small frame) - totally cool bike for an out-of-the-box experience for someone with 27-inch inseam and the seat can be lowered 3 inches more!
You guys should nag James to jump on the podcast from time to time. I love his energy
Fairlight's Support team has amazing knowledge when it comes to fit and recommending frame sizing.
A small market....no pun intended?
I have the Fairlight Faran and its a workhorse on tours and such a playfull bike on day rides.
My favorite bike is the one I’m on now. Sage Titanium Barlow gravel bike.
Just wanted to say thank you, I am a cyclist with achondroplasia and was stoked to see Giles' Sarto being featured, looks so cool.
I currently have an Islabikes Joni 24 but have upgraded it somewhat.
Thanks again
Andrew Smith
Chairperson
Little People UK
Pinarello bikes look like they are melting.
Good to see that Pinarello does a shorter, higher bike that does not look boring. I still love my Supersix Evo. Also shorter and higher than most race bikes and is available in non-boring colours.
Am trying to decide my next bike purchase. Fairlight Secan was being considered. After seeing it on this list and being 6'5" I think that's the decision made!
I've been looking for high quality gear that fits my size (6'7" long torso), do you have any recommendations for bike clothing that might fit? Everything I've found is very generic and boring.
@@unknowablerootvegetable
Afraid I don't have any good recommendations. Things I have tried are: Endura, Rapha and DHB.
Endura are uncomfortably short. Bib shorts particularly.
Rapha bought at a warehouse sale. Again, bib shorts are too short in the shoulder to crotch length.
DHB are actually ok in size for shoulder to crotch length but the quality isn't there. Chamis is lacking if you need something for a long ride.
I get why there isn't a market for our size but it's really frustrating.
hahahaha. the car pop-up
WYKYK
Looks like only realy financially healthy people are buying those bikes like Pinarello, show something for normal people (1000-3000€) And it would be nice if you will try to ride Kellys Soot bikes (Slovak bike company)
Allez starts at US$1200, Endurace starts at US$1500, Fairlight Secan is sub-€3000.
While the finances of those who buy Pinarellos are healthy, the very opposite is true for these people's taste.
@@ktakashismith In the US, there is no reason to buy an Asian-made bike from a German brand when there are so many Asian-made (North) American bike brands to choose from: Argon 18, Cannondale, Cervelo, Fuji, Jamis, Specialized, Trek and a few more. Unless you are a Lebron James fanboy, that is.
@@einundsiebenziger5488 Sure, but you'd be spending $300 more for any of those brands to meet the spec of the $1500 Endurace. But if a simple reliable road bike is all that one needs, the Trek Emonda Rim brake is on sale for $1000 right now and presents a great value. And yeah, I just do whatever LeBron tells me to do, most of my consumer decisions are influenced by celebrities.
Catching up on old content
I would love to have an Open Mind.
Indeed - this is a small market
bit to expensive for most people to even consider these tho .
Here in the US, the Specialized Allez starts at $1200 and the Canyon Endurace starts at $1500.
@@ktakashismithclaris 🎉😂
... too* expensive
That Pinarello is hot. Whoa.
It seems you really like tall and short reach bikes, do cyclocross bikes fit into this category for you, or is there some other number that they get wrong? (I've been riding a cyclocross bike as a road and gravel and do it all bike since I started riding 24" bikes as a kid 12 years ago, and have often wondered if they work well for me because that's what I've always had or if there is something to it)
CX bikes are a dying bike commercially.
They're low stack with high BBs which makes them good for proper racing that involves lots of slow speed tight corners. CX bikes from a geometry perspective should be niche bikes. They were only ever popular because in the early 2000s commercial complete gravel bikes didn't exist (who propritise stability which makes sense offroad) and people were overly obsessed with being Lance Armstrong endurance road bikes never got much love.
You know what a CX bike is good for (for the overwhelmingly majority of riders)? People on a tighter budget. No one wants a CX bike anymore and you can get an equivalent specced CX bike (vs. A gravel bike) for about 1/2 price.
Haha a small market . Good one
Such an amazing take on getting everyone to ride despite the limitation of bike industry scam 😊
My Condor was fitted. I love it.
Nice. I liVe about 10 minutes from Yeti headquarters.
A Domane Sl6 is nearly identical in reach/stack to the X3. for a 52cm frame its stack 564mm/561mm (X3/Domane) and reach 368/371 (X3/Domane). Not sure 3mm is noticable.
Colnago C60 on Campagnolo ❤
hey folks - could you maybe do a review on the "polygon helios" version "a7x" or "a8x"?
its a brand from indonesia and they are mostly known for mountain bikes, but i have the feeling these bikes could be really worth the money.
cheers from germany :)
Well, its certainly up to current standards of fashion, aka "innovation": an overcomplicated, integrated clamping mechanism at the non-standard seatpost, two sorts of bespoke spacers at the headset, total integration from the handlebar on for a maximum of service costs. Everything that makes cycling more expensive.
Does James ever support/recommend race bikes given their aggressive geometry?
If you're a high level racer? Yea probs
They can be very comfortable if you take your stretching seriously. On my new bike I lowered my stack by 50 milimeters compared to the old bike and my back pain is gone. I can also produce more power, because I can engage my glutes properly.
@@michaelmechexbut you have to be careful as you risk hip impingement the lower the stack.
Hi, I love your videos, they are all great. Do you have any experience with Lapierre Xelius bikes? There are few reviews, I own one (6.0) and am very happy with it but would be interested in professional review not from Lapierre... thank you if you receive and read this message 😊
This is wild! Just sized up my mtb to a 480 reach size large, been on a medium forever! But now I know I’ve got to size down on the road bike!
More bike pablum. These videos become so tiring as if there aren't 100's of bikes that will perfectly fit the average rider. The notion that any of these bikes somehow "fit better" is a fairy-tale. This is the content for content's sake - the having to produce a video every week to make a buck.
Jamis Renegade S2
I love the Pinarello. Still love my F4:13 that I got 15 ish years ago, brilliantly tight and compact and stiff too. Love the curves!
XC bikes with 'Modern Geometry'. I have a 2016 Merida Big Nine and its easy to get 60-65mm saddle setback. My 2023 Merida Big Nine allows for a MAXIMUM of 35mm saddle setback, so I have a lot of weight on the hands. I don't understand the move to steeper seat angles for all XC bikes... :(
Now make a video about bikes we can actually buy lol
I built a road bike last year with a Brand-X frame, and I used parts which were either on sale (SRAM Force 22 groupset) or parts that were reasonably priced (Scribe). I'm really happy with my bike, but I keep getting hand numbness from riding and troubleshooting is what I need: no one offers it. You either go for a full bike fit that's £200-500 or you work it out on your own.
is Canyon Aeroad a lot more uncomfortable than Endurance series for a slim and fairly fit beginner cyclist in his 30's ?
What does James think about the Pinarello gravel bikes? They seem a bit shorter and taller than for example the Specialized gravel bikes
Andy? Broken shoulder? Maybe I’d better not book a bike fitting just now….?
Funny i ride an Open and you show a Open 😎👍
I ride the Wide Version an must say that Open is mega comfy ❤ plus i can change everything without a hustle ❤❤
No integrated Cable Routing. I can buy Standard Seat Post and so on 😎
Got different Wheelsets so i can ride it more on the Gravel Side or on the MTB side ❤ i even can Do Bikepacking ❤
But the Best Thing about it is that i got a Bikefitting on me and the Open.
That i can ride it endless.
200k without pain ❤❤❤
An issue with smaller widths in handlebars is the lack of control for smaller people, who may lack the upper body strength of a bigger person. This is therefore another variable,that is not easy to account for.
pinarello X looks nice apart from the 1-1.5k tax you are paying for the name.
James did a sales plug for Pinarello here 😅.
Actually the Canyon VCLS Flex Seatstay is an Ergon product that is rebranded for Canyon. The founders of Canyon and Ergon are brothers and both firms are next to each other in Koblenz, Germany.
Cervelo Caledonia 5 ❤️
Great bike, super comfy, very versatile, aero enough to keep pace, but endurance focused.
Wish there were more geometry options out there like the Pinarello X, but with a lighter frame and high end groupset options. Not sure why every manufacturer seems to deem it necessary to build gimmicks into the endurance bike or assume that endurance riders only want a 105 groupset - is it too much to ask for a shorter/taller version of a standard race bike? Colnago used to offer High geometry on their C-Series, but even they stopped that with their new C68.
James....I saw you had a basso astra behind you while talking about handlebars......how is the bike in comparison to the pinarello x? Im looking at the basso to purchase!
Completely agree on the Canyon seatpost, I got one because my brother changed it out. I have put it on multiple bikes and even go through the trouble of changing it out on bikes just for 1 ride.
Gamechanger and surprised other brands arent picking up on it
Integrated seat post and integrated cockpits both okay on endurance bikes?!?!
l like they make a 24 road wheel n tires l wonder if a 26 is also available which would be great for kids too the next issue would a short reach road levers that ld fit their smaller hands . AND $4500 pinarello is that a complete bike or just a frame ??
Really interested to learn about the Pinarello X and the X3 looks the job! Will search out some reviews now...local shop not too far in Beaulieu sur Mer.
Finding next to zero reviews of X3! No video analysis at all to speak of apart from it's unboxing and looks. I need ride quality etc. Also out of stock at store. Needing a lot more to seriously consider it.