WATCH | AfriForum vs EFF | We are a traumatised nation - Malema
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.พ. 2022
- EFF leader Julius Malema is sticking to his guns that the song 'Shoot the Boer' doesn't incite hate speech.
Malema again took the stand at the Equality Court, in his hate speech trial.
It was a tense day as Malema and Afriforum's lawyer went head to head.
eNCA's Manqoba Mchunu has the details. #eNCA #DStv403
Malema showed this lawyer flames🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Looool 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
@Black Magic AAAAMANDLA
Afriforum taking this man to court was a big mistake😅
They have won 4 cases against him already 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and this will be number 5
@@robertjordaan9924 Not this one you are lying to yourself. And which case they won against him
Malema is an African treasure
Here is an ethical, moral, and/or legal question for a justice seeking society:
If you inherit the cows your grandfather stole from your neighbors and you refuse to return the cows as your neighbors suffer from poverty and hunger, are you just as guilty as your grandfather?
What about the profits you make from selling the stolen cows milk to foreigners while you neighbors and their children go hungry???
What relationship can you expect to have with your neighbors under such circumstance???
If you inherit and profit from the sins of your father, should you not be held accountable for those sins?
Why can't the Anc turn South Africa into a raging success so that Black people can overcome their victimhood and be forward-looking. Blacks live in the past for a reason, namely, Black rule has been so calamitous they have no positive future view. Blame Whites all your like but the truth is that the many failures post-1994 are yours to own. Until you mature as a people and acknowledge your faults (e.g. the Black man's xenophobia is raging out of control but no one is working on it) you will continue, like Malema, to practice the vicious racism you so despised from White rule. It is a tragedy but you probably can't see it.
@@tameimpala37 I wonder why you attacked the people vice tackling(answering) the question I asked?
@@Theo-eq3ei it's shows another level of incompetence
@@Theo-eq3ei by them
@@Theo-eq3ei Forget it if you think white people will ever listen.
Dhubula, is a historical reaction to oppression and dehumanizing conditions Africans find themselves in; it is a symbol of resistance and courage 🤔 The settler community and its colonial mother refuses to take responsibility for the injustices and to pay reparations
The truth is everyone in Malemas age group and below knows about the injustices happening even as we speak to majority of black people in this country, real victory will comes from tangible results that can be tracked daily , then we can give worthwhile credit, like for example where is the legacy of Mandela they keep telling us about ? actions speak louder than words….until then this is all just for show.
When I grow up I wanna be as brave as Malema
That is good....stupidity cost you nothing
He's not brave. He is a coward and a racist.
@@hendrikventer4182 Do you really think people care what you think of them ?
@@hendrikventer4182 mwah 😘
@@hendrikventer4182 mncwa😘 the forehead
Keep up the good fight Malema
Racism is not a good fight.
Please, he's just saying what he needs to say to stay in power. He was asked to make a statement which he said he would do with ease. When asked to make that statement, he went back on his word and clammed up like a clam
@@moegamadebraheemfredericks6557 He said he would for a reason which is not in the demanded or mentioned moment or scenario!!!
He just said the truth by the way not only SA but the entire Africa is a traumatized nation
#VICTIMHOODFOREVER
If theft of property is a sin and you inherit the stolen property, have you not inherited the sin??? And if you inherit the sin, are you not liable for the sin???
Is it not reasonable to absolve one's self of such liability by returning the stolen property??? Complicated still, can you absolve yourself of such liability by returning the property yet holding on to the profits made from the property???
Does not your profits from the stolen property represent the lost profits of those whom the property was stolen from???
Ah... Colonialism and the delayed justice and reparations thereof has dug a whole so deep.
It’s the truth they hate to hear
When are the Zulu's going to return the land and property that they stole from neighbouring tribes ?
@@rockrabbit253 When recessive genes having beings leave Umhlaba wobaba' mkhulu. Leave black matters to black people.
where are the property receipts? where is the deed to the land? then it wont stand in court. Empty Land is Empty Land. Ask Zimbabwe how they are doing they are begging white people to come back.
@@covfefe1787 nope they are not. Sanctions made it that way. God bless the great mugabe
"I will do it with ease 😃" ...a few moments later...
I won't do it kkkk
They took the land as a collective...not individually
I would not have put him up for questioning if I was the EFF
No ,different groups of black people took the land from the brown people one piece a a time.
@@rockrabbit253 we you here when the blacks took the land from the black Khoisan 😂 as a Khoisan I know my ppl intermarried with the Nguni esp Xhosas and Sotho ppl. Where did you get this incorrect information. Did your grandpa lie to you?
@@Motswako Get your eyes tested. Khoi San are brown. Yes , some intermarried with the Nguni settlers , just as they did with the white settlers.
What is your point exactly ?
@@rockrabbit253 khoisan are black, I know a lot of the so called blacks who are light in complexion but are regarded as black. We Khoisan are black. I m not talking abt the so called mixed coloureds
I love him very much 🙏 🙏 🙏
Afriforum must to disapear in South Africa
It looks like the chest pains that Malema was talking about have already started.
Too late for SA. Very sad.
Despondency doesn't help, never forget that joolyas only has 10% of one third of the vote (less than 3%) which is normal for racist mouthpieces the world over. The average person in this country rejects him and his troop's fascist garbage.
Jan van Rebek, Botha and De Klerk started all this punk..!
@@simphiwenkutha9224 Keep spouting that "superior logic" clown shoes.
Imagine if he was the president, the whites would be dancing to his tune 😂
😂😂😂
Whites can't dance man, don't you know bruh
You are the best Mr.Malema,go ahead tell them.
I'm an elderly man I remember very clearly listening to Robert Magabe on the radio and on TV back in the day sprouting the same nonsense in a loud arrogant voice . Eish my freinds , Zimbabwe is suffering. Southern Africa in its entirety is paying a terrible price because people listened to and believed this one loud bully 😢. Think clearly people , modernise your thinking. Grow up, not down.
South Africa is already suffering as hell stop your complex of superiority!!This is not cause by Malema but Capitalism fool!!Look at the exchange rate!!!
U called black people monkeys n bobojans for every long time. Our people were harassed n oppressed by the same people u want us to listen to!!! Whites hate Malema n EFF because u can see this is unstoppable flooding. We'll listen n support Malema n the EFF. We'll do everything that drives Whites people to the sea.
Ja Leonard at least whites can swim Baba, karna will be back for you
Black people are suffering now. You talking about future is nonsensical. Go to hell old man
You can tell this clip was made by the other nation, Malema's answers were Cut - making that long hair dude to sound smart. Futunately I was watching the whole Court session. Sies...shame on you
This is not factual reporting. Is kiss not shoot. Now your misleading people.
@@thabangtselanajoseph7849 while browsing through my comment and doing your analysis, you really did not use your cognitive skills to grasp the context . It went over your head.
“In court for us was…” who? 😂🤣
The message is clear.. you can't keep a stolen car.
Who stole what. Go to court on a case by case basis and get restitution. But forget about painting people as thieves based on their skin colour. That was in the line of questioning, but subtle enough for many to miss.
How many cars did black people bring to Southern Africa ?
White people came in Africa without land and they stole our land and have no prove that they bought it. 🙄
@@simphiwenkutha9224 there was a war actually. much like when the zulu nation moved south and killed off millions of other tribes. war for land has always been a thing. apartheid was the crime. the politicians should be held accountable. Attacking citizens is never going to be the answer. easier maybe. but not the answer.
But, people keep stolen cars all the time here. it's like the thing. isn't it? or is that kind of crime okay
This Afroracsim they don't have a case
Watching from Malaw 🇲🇼🇲🇼🥰,, I love this guy
Malema you are very brave ,pele ya pele sello
Very brave
@Ošklivý Bogdanov Barbarian language to call people fools.
@@tfmkhonza5084 Barbarian is nothing compared to racist, calling white people pigs and thieves.
Of course it doesnt incite violence.if that were the case then we would have seen a blood bath already🙄
Malemal still gonna show you guys flames continuously 🔥
`you're incriminating the eff here...
The countries of Europe involved in colonising South Africa must pay 5 trillion dollars to black South Africans of reparations
You sound like Dr evil, 10gazillion, make up a number and throw it out there.
@@jpBTC 😂 dr evil is white with blue eyes and blonde hair
White yes, no hair...but a socialist like you just wanting money for nothing. Try get a job and make your life not ride the coattails of your oppersors.
🇿🇦🇿🇦For the first time witnessing a white Lawyer being put inside the underwea🩲 🇿🇦🇿🇦
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You missed the point. The lawyer inverted the argument and Malema took the bait. He argues along racial lines and thus in a racist way. But then we can only hope the judge sees the racism too.
No one wins when the winner is "skelm"
First time I saw how pathetic Juju is......
No responsibility
No accountability
No honesty
No nothing
If u were never born in those days.. The past.. How can u fight for it now.. All those people are dead... This land is for all of us.. God placed each and everyone of us in this beautiful country.. Take up the case with God.. Nt lawyers that were nt born generations ago...
You calling these tough questions 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣,trust me this lawyer is too weak for Malema even to me
I love you Malema!!
Farming is a competitive business right? Some farm killings maybe as a result of white on white, how are those reported, are they included in the same category of the "impact" of the song.
I suspect a lot of farm killings are pure political motivations. we are all being triggered to hate, but people seem to enjoy it which is sad. killing for money, profit, control. I worry that this all leads to deeper issues for all.
I've listened and heard the comments... it's very sad.
At the end of the people we will all have to stand before God and give account, your spirit is neither white, african nor coloured. Hell is real people.
Bitterness is deadly only not to the perpetrator.
One who is racist is only blinded to the fact that we are all human. He himself is no better than the one he oppresses. Let the armies of Jesus Christ arise on this matter!!!
I agree with you Fefes
What are you talking about? Because you don’t agree with him. You feel like God is with you in your disagreement? Nah fam, try again. The armies of God don’t bend at your will. Try again.
I agree. we are all souls, and hide behind our skins, ideals, beliefs and fears. a there is an awakening coming which will be great for souls, but hard for those who live here. remember to keep feeding love.....
Christianity the true Trojan horse that still enslaves black peoples across the world
this mampara didn't get his parents' attention
If niel was only there
Can we move from the trauma already. Forward... Forward... Forward... Let's move forward.
You would never say that to a rape victim. No one dictates how fast anyone should move from their personal trauma.
@@Where-Did-They-Go But Joolyas can say that to an old man who was shot and watched his wife tortured to death. He is a racist sociopath.
@@Where-Did-They-Go There are limits to everything, even how far you can stretch white guilt
Juju is doing his best to increase the trauma.
We can move foward once the inequality of this country is resolved.
Race separation Not Apartheid. = great difference!!!! Is what we all need. Our black people should govern ourselves.!
True, just like the Jewish people regarding the Nazi and Hitler.
What are you talking about?
Tell them the truth and remind them Malema
It is 2022.
@@olsaffa7679 Are you gonna tell us when to heal , Dutch people don’t know their place . Have you acknowledge that you raped the whole Khoi nation ? Those are our forefathers.
Juju
True African leader J.M
eNCA reporting e faulty shame...😶 kyk man from now on even if bare it might rain tomorrow ka go e doubta 🤞🤞🤞
Malema: "I will do it with ease"
(1 sec later)
Malema: "I won't do it!"
Why he changes his mind so quickly
I will do it with ease...... I WON'T do it 🤣
Aluta Continua ✊🏾✊🏾
Malema is the greatest politician of this generation. Africa's hope. Go Juju!!!
If Julius is Africa's hope - Africa is hopeless and racist.
clearly doesn't take much to impress you!
@Black Magic Tsek. My blood has been in SA for longer than yours. I owe you nothing because you are black. Back to central Africa for you.
The big man is still bitter towards colonial
You keep reminding everyone
Good job malema
You should listen again and think of the implications of his statements. He is testifying against racism while being racist
CIC SALUTE!!
I hope white people see that thing won't change in sa
Despondency doesn't help, never forget that joolyas only has 10% of one third of the vote (less than 3%) which is normal for racist mouthpieces the world over. The average person in this country rejects him and his troop's fascist garbage.
I hope black people see that white people are not willing to change, still holding on to the past apartheid attitude.
@@Bhatayis Explain this "attitude" that you see
@@Bhatayis White people voted to for change to enable democracy and now you blame them for holding onto the past #SUPERIORLOGIC
@@Bhatayis 🤣🤣🤣🤣
legacy media is funny! :D
Juju min days for u my black brother I can sence that ur days are running out and suspect soon u will go to be with the ancestors , how we will miss u my fellow South African but I just feel I need to warn ahead of time , and maybe allow u to make peace with family and friends and get ur affairs in order !! Sorry to bring this bad news to u but I must say what I see in the near future !! Good luck juju , cause I think u will need it to survive what’ I see is coming towards u at full speed , please be carful out there as u just never know what might happen at anytime 👍👊
Terribly sad . That’s all I can say . I see that South Africa is a festering wound . 🌎🥺
It took you a while to discover that it has been our reality since apartheid
@@ZomziWeAfrika It is 2022.
@@olsaffa7679 apartheid beneficiaries shouldn't tell apartheid victims how to deal with their traumas and how long should it take. Its 2022 and racism still exists what's your point?
@UC63IRMgBDHk8tYVGfSvkOFw Yes, there has been a black middle class created, but I agree that more should have been done. Why was it not? On land alone we all know about the money being stolen and budgets not even used for land reform. That is where the problem lies. Many millions of hectares could have been dealt with fairly. Now shifting the dialogue to expropriation without compensation is just a political stunt to gloss over the ills that needs fixing and get votes from frustrated poor people. If the government (ANC or even EFF) could not do the job with a budget and compensation, there's no chance of a satisfactory result without. The people should force government to do their job well and without corruption or things will be even worse. It is too easy to be a populist politician when government does not work
@@zamamaduma7424 Exactly that- racism still exists thanks to things like this song. Racism cannot be reformed through racism. Racism breeds racism and will keep doing so until racism is stopped. How? No more racism tolerated. No segregation of people as this or that colour. You want to keep wallowing in what happened a generation ago- you can but it will do you no good. No property will be taken from people because they are this or that colour.
Our President julias Malema u are my hero
Tough questions 🤔 that lawyer is bad shame 😕
Shame malema, jannie jammergat.
What is afriforum????? Call it whiteforum from europe
True
Thank you...
Eish kalakoen
Good evening Nation.
ATTENTION: PRAYER WARRIORS!!!
Let us all rise up from the Bible and Read Daniel9 daily. It's a nation's prayer and from what I'm seeing, it's a rather DESPERATE SITUATION. It's shocking.
Lol, what are you taking about? How’s this situation desperate? A man was taken to court for a struggle song.
Keep your cool, stay focused and let the idiot and clow bring himself to justice.
God be with you...Amen
Lol, you wish! Justice will prevail against the thieves that continue to hold our wealth
@@tawalali They are still expecting Africans to be subservient they don’t know their time is up
@@tawalali I am white and did not steal anything from anyone. Are you a racist?
@@olsaffa7679
Thank you for this quotation
@@ZomziWeAfrika
Then why are your man....Juju, Ramaposa bowing to the Rothchild's.....why
Why
Why
But he said that we as white people are visiting. U Malema must check ur facts. The land belongs not to you the world belongs to everyone that was created by God....our Father
In that case then share the land since the land is for everyone
God bless you J Malema. This country loves ❤️ you
He didn't write the song,the song came out of pain who is responsible for blacks people pain its the Whiteman so what is that Whiteman problem.Malema is telling the truth.
EFF
This is clear bias reporting from ENCA . Malena warned usong time ago about your channel.
He knows nothing about traumatization. He saw a chance and took it. Does he know what rreally happened? He should take care of his people's hungry children.
U should take care of those hungry kids coz you’re the cause not Malema. You’re the root of the problem
@@thembi9645 Not the fact that you don't know who your father is?
@@sinosaffer8015 nope, I leave with my father and but I’m still hungry so come support me. U not supporting children with no fathers u support those hit by hunger strike bcz of u.
@@thembi9645 Yekela lezilima zamaBhunu, their time is over. We soon going to eat them, akere we are hungry!
You don’t know anything about his childhood, the trauma he went trough so shut up and let him to tell his story, it his anyway
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Is no one seeing a problem here. Julius Malemas responses show deep hatred and absolutely no regard or respect or reason to answer to the law? It's just deny, twist, deny, twist, deny, twist, and people agree with this? If this is the general mentality of south Africans right now there is no hope for this country. Just imagine if any other person in SA sang a song that had lyrics with kill another category of a person what world happen, just imagine. The bar of just simple empathy for others in this country is non existent in Malemas world. I think it's time for people that have a shred of common sense to start waking up. A country with this man as president is a country destroyed.
What's wrong with this people(colonisers)
Malemaaaaa
@Black Magic sure
Why do these white people keep saying the song says shoot the boer when he says kiss the boer?
AfriForum is a joke
Listen to the questions and think about the anticipated answers. Malema exposed himself as a racist
@@olsaffa7679 i think everyone knows he is. two things can be true at once.
die vierkleur sal weer wapper
Malema must go to jail for 1st and 2nd degree murder of all the farm murders
Actually what has Malema achieved besides inciting violence and hatred? What about the farm labourers who have lost their jobs due to the farm murders. When there are no more farmers who will produce the food? There are thousands of hectares of prime land lying idle, that has been looted and destroyed. What you want more land for as what you have you can't utilize.
Who was producing food before
Stlaela tena
Mxm
Why do you care? Return the stolen property. Do you feed those people today?
@@tshepolevismagabe5458 earth. there is a problem in the whole world, with farming being the biggest cause of destruction to be fair. no race there. it's sad to see people not getting that. if people really think that the politicians are there to help them, they should start to ask more questions..... why are so many people not being helped to have community food growing projects? why do farmers use gmo crops. why dont leaders address issues like water pollution? why are leaders promoting less and less education for all people? I suggest you spend some time looking at Australia, Canada, and other countries caught on a roll of the greatest con in history. I do this because I feel we are being led to do things that will ultimately harm more than ever. I hope to encourage deeper love and care for our mother earth, and embrace that, without taking care of our planet, we have nothing.
@@tshepolevismagabe5458 no one was you blubbering protoplasmic invertebrate jelly. the land was empty filled with hunter gatherers. Bantu’s came to South Africa in 18000.
🇿🇦🇿🇦Sorry Afriforum for taking a wrong offramp. Hope you won't get lost ever again in the roads of AFRICA🇿🇦🇿🇦 😀
Why eNCA, is misqouting Malema.
Secondly he dd not face tough questions, that lawyer was stupid and week.
3rdly why are they only showing small portions.
eNCA you are representing the ppl who don't want to hear the truth
You missed the point if you make those questions off as stupid. Listen again and think about what the anticipated answers where and what it says about the man and his motivations.
Julius the Joke
At least he is funny, & making history whilst you hide your keyboard lol
Why u say sticking to he's guns..coz it the fact don't b a stug
MALEMA : "My brudda Yes we sang happy birthday for him ...but it doesn't mean we want him to be happy on his birthday"
The problem is when you think you have a monopoly of interpretation. The originators of the song should tell you what the correct interpretation of the song.
Happy birthday to you does not originate from Africa.
@@njabulodladla5890 the other problem here is that you are responding to my comment using a phone and via an app that did not originate from Africa ....😩
@@njabulodladla5890 Then sing, or even create, another song...
Lol This is pathetic. How did we get to apps and phones? Can't reason?
No one order anyone not to perform a song. You can own copyright of the song but anyone can perform it.
What makes you think we will follow your commands ?
@@njabulodladla5890 we were only hoping that you would act human and realize that your selfish words can do much harm to other people in the present while you are unhappy about your perception of the past. You cannot change the past, but you can have a positive effect on the past of your children. Your hatred and vengeful acts today will be the example for your children tomorrow. I have never and will never teach my children to hate other people. You might feel different about that.
ENCA is bullshit .... you showed what you want us to know not knowing we way more informed on this court case
YOU meaning Zulu's, Xhosa's, Venda's, Pedi's etc except the Koi San wich are the only indigenous people to South Africa.... my dear Julias You are not part of the YOU you are referring to. IT IS NOT YOUR ORIGINAL HOME! The white settlers did not take the land from your people. The white settlers bought (bartered or traded) the land from the Koi San . You can use what ever analogies to make your self sound smart but my friend the fact that you do not know the history of the land you claimed is stolen from your ancestors is extremely sad. And let us al be honest here. If it was not for Paul Kruger and the Afrikaners who discovered gold, diamonds, coal etc ... this country would have the same landscape similar to that of the early 1800's --- a land filled with clay huts, no plumbing, no hospitals, no roads ... no infrastructure!!!
Even if your false claim was true and SA remained a land filled with clay huts, we would prefer it that way instead of being raped, murdered and dispossessed by your ancestors.
What is the difference between Malema and the Khoisan? Does he not have their DNA in his genes? You think Khoisans vanished? Sotho, Tswana, Pedi and Coloured people have a strong link to the Khoisan. Ask us about OUR history and WE will enlighten you.
⚪⚪ people have no response for facts 😂
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All of youthe war monger cometh get uss
He promote farm killings
Aaaaand thank you Jan van Riebeeck for bringing paper and pen to this country to write down the history and especially transforming sound into words so the the people can.......read and write today their own language.
No hate.....only here to help
Well,you are directly falling into the trap of Malema. When the war erupts,you and your pple will die and suffer alot
@@werelawrence4686 Hahahahaha.......history shows us the exact opposite,
@@sinosaffer8015 history shows us sticks vs guns, thing have changed chap, wake up
@@werelawrence4686
No .....think again
@@fanileh66 Not at all, History shows us the evolved vs the unevolved using what they have at hand, that hasn't changed.
I love this guy malema
@Ošklivý Bogdanov lol 😆 😂 🤣 😅 😄 sorry have a big beutyfull Afro original ..I dnt need wig on ma head 😒
@@sweetgurl8028 Horse hair to expensive?
@@sinosaffer8015 😏 look at ur hair n ull se horse hair ..I hv very beutyfull Afro hair st...d
@Ošklivý Bogdanov I have no time for ur racist stupid comment 😒 🙄 just know m very proud being who I am ...I wish u can say that in ma face n see whT will happn
BEST AFRICAN LEADER. MALEMA.
Biggest racist
@@olsaffa7679 You are the descendant and rightful heir in bigotry! Go argue with your pre-sadistic generation.
@@didilekayfinest_onyinye8585 You are a descendant of and heir to slavery. One who enslaved your fellow man and sold them - that is what you came from in the history of Central Africa. Are you that? Just as much am I history today. Either the EFF is dumb or acting dumb because how can people be so foolish?