The T56 Magnum is a godsend. Grannas Racing, the holder of the fastest quarter mile stick shift car on the planet with their Supra, runs a T56 Magnum with stock gear and just set the world record at 7.005 @ 208. No straight cut gears or no-lift-shift or sequential conversion, just a H pattern beating autos in their own game
@@Realtime1501 I was going to say they have to have something special inside it, I have seen lots of grenaded stock T56 Magnums before that were not running 7's, not even running single digits 1/4 miles lol
3 uploads in a week. wow.. you must've spent your whole stay-at-home time on this. glad so we also have something entertaining for staying home too. keep up!
the subaru sti transmition can also take quite alot. there have been many people put 800 lb/ft through them. there great because you can use it in awd and with some modification fwd and rwd.
and even in reverse. Special shops offer kits to convert these for rear-engine application, even keeping the AWD working. For the use in dune buggies or VW T1 and T2 vans for example
Fantastic subject !! i was long waiting some gearbox/diff video with good choice and review of each of them.. knowing the ratio directly on your video would've been crazy but a bit o' research ain't gonna kill anyone. Do more !!! I want to see a manual 7 Speed review as well as some auto 8 !! that's exactly what i wanted,Thanks !
A lot of those Tremecs used to be dirt cheap back in the day. Got mine factory direct for about 700 USD about 15 years ago. Now they're like 2500-3000 USD. Quite a difference. They do last, tho. Had it for a long time with no real issues other than some leaks.
Out of these option which of them can I use to replace my stock auto. It’s for a project truck that’s gonna be towing a 10k ibs trailer. The rigs “expected weights gonna be around 9k. So 20k ibs dry. Recommendations?😅
The cast aluminum shift forks are the weak link if you're abusing a R series. I run one behind a NA 2.7l, broke a couple shift forks then swapped to the billet unit's from marlin crawler. Been good since.
I remember my dad telling me about the old Chrysler 4-speed gearboxes, and how they were sometimes referred to as the "rock crusher 4 gear" because they were basically indestructible.
Ford had a super t 10. All the old 4 speed boxes you couldn't kill. I like having 5th gear, but damn the aluminum case trans you just couldn't have fun without having to work on them.
Toyota’s V160/161 is a pretty popular trans as well, it is used in a lot more expensive JZ swaps as well as the TT MK4 Supra. The only issue is that they’re around the $10k mark and usually people pick the T56 over them any day
Aisin AR5 is insane too. Intensely strong but also the cheapest budget beefcake manual for me to JZ or LS, cheaper than going CD009 R154 GS6 T56 etc… It’s the modern American Aisin R154, they even share parts. Some LS people in Western Canada are ditching their brand new T56’s and TR6060’s for AR5’s. A 3500# Turbo-LS Colorado broke 3rd gear at 800wheel ftlb. Fabbot LS / Driftmotion 2JZ swap parts for AR5 are very very cheap.
I was considering an AR5 to replace the w58 i currently have in my supra. I just bought a 1jz-vvti and plan on building it up, so ill lukely need something stronger. Gonna have to do some research into different types. I was also looking into the ZF series. Still not sure.
@@berardoferrari the superduty fords ran until 2010 or 2011. I forget which was the last. I thought dodge had aisin or something like that as there manual trans.
MR2 guys will know the Toyota E153 5 speed for power capabilities. 7-800 horsepower capability, more than plenty for any 3SGTE or 2GR swap power goals. They can be bought new from Toyota for $4,000, but can be found used for around $1,500
How about a guide on how to choose the right transmission to turn something like a Honda L15 , Chrysler four cylinder out of a Dodge Neon, Renault Cleon, or similar, for example, round for a rear wheel drive layout for a small hot rod or kit car?
Naaaaah there are more CD009s and T56s out there than there are people building cars. Also didnt mention the ZF boxes in the GM LFX cars that are strong and super plentiful.
The bmw 6sp 420G can easily handle 1000hp and north of 600+NM of tq. For a cheaper version, the bow ZF 5sp has also been known to handle 1000hp but its better to keep power at 800hp & 500-600NM of TQ or so max.
Rb25/z32 trans can take a beating they cost between 2-600 usd. They're limited to about 500 ft lbs. They can take little more if you're careful with shock/wheel hop etc.
Rumoured to be the same fundamental gearbox as the Getrag 420G as all 3 were made by Getrag at the same time, but the BMW one didn't get the JDM Icon tax applied to price
Three things: 1. SCREW the R154. They finicky as they can either be a pile of bolts or a solid transmission. However one thing that they all share is terrible shifting feel. 2. CD009 are great, as I have one for my UZ swap but Holy crap they are heavy! 3. No one gonna mention the AR-5? It's an updated R-Series transmission with a shifter feel of a W-Series and has triple syncros and super robust. Quite a nice option for those in the JZ platform.
Nice video, very professional coverage of an odd subject. It pains me to see nice cars drift. (Somehow drag racing doesn't). My preferance is cars and bikes cornering at the limit without "pomp and circumstance". Yeah, we blew your doors off around that corner, so what? Keep it straight and go fast folks!
What? They break on stock cars man. Had a tow truck driver tell me it was a weekly occurrence. Since the 90's they've been selling dog boxes because they are weak
The Getrag 260 is incredibly weak, and the much preferred gearbox is the ZF310/320 That said, I never broke my 260, before I upgraded it to a Getrag 420G
The 01E 5- and 6 speeds, especially from diesels, are great at can often handle 1000 Nm in AWD drive. But they are long, heavy (70 - 80 kg) and the bellhousing is not removable.
Manual transmissions are so fun to drive.
I don't understand why some people don't want to learn driving a stick, it's such a blast!
@@backwoodsjunkie08 100% their loss
The T56 Magnum is a godsend. Grannas Racing, the holder of the fastest quarter mile stick shift car on the planet with their Supra, runs a T56 Magnum with stock gear and just set the world record at 7.005 @ 208. No straight cut gears or no-lift-shift or sequential conversion, just a H pattern beating autos in their own game
He has a faceplated liberty gearset in his tho
@@Realtime1501 I was going to say they have to have something special inside it, I have seen lots of grenaded stock T56 Magnums before that were not running 7's, not even running single digits 1/4 miles lol
*H pattern
Lol sorry bud, bring that shit over and let's find out
0:46 Well, it was 200-300$, until you made this video
😂😂😂
Like the mic quality in this one. Very crisp and really does improve the quality of the video :) Nice video as always dude!
Behind! The power of condencer microphones
Thank you! Glad you enjoy it
What do you use? I use a audio technica AT-2020. Best damn mic for 100$.
Behringer C1-U, very decent for the price
3 uploads in a week. wow.. you must've spent your whole stay-at-home time on this. glad so we also have something entertaining for staying home too. keep up!
the subaru sti transmition can also take quite alot. there have been many people put 800 lb/ft through them. there great because you can use it in awd and with some modification fwd and rwd.
and even in reverse. Special shops offer kits to convert these for rear-engine application, even keeping the AWD working. For the use in dune buggies or VW T1 and T2 vans for example
@@AccAkut1987 dang I never knew such thing exist
Hell no the sti trans are like glass they break so easy maybe built that are strong but stock hell no
Long live the MANUAL TRANSMISSION! King over all others!
Request: top 9 odd valve train systems
Thats a great idea.
Freevalve would be number 1 I suppose ?
@@nvl2691 rather number 9
# save the manuals
thumbs up for the cd009! handles 1000+ hp for a reasonable price.
as long as you do not use a crazy expensive adapter.
Bro even new from z1 is reasonable last time I checked. But like mentioned above an adapter or kit can really defeat the whole purpose
I have been a subscriber for years and the quality of you videos has not decreased. You are very talented my friend!
The Muncie M22 "Rock Crusher" is worth mentioning, not just for its strength but also for the lovely sound the gears make.
Good Video Visio - Nice that you mixed it up a bit. Rear-ends, Transfer cases....that for the research and videos!
2:53 Very nice.
The TKO 600 and Ford Top loader are quite strong transmissions as well
I was trying to look these up and they were either rare or most variants available were not the strong ones.
Toploaders were tough atleast 1964 to 1973 if it had a clutch peddle a v-8
Same as m22 and whatever Chrysler used
This is going to be for the bus guys:
How about make a video about the best-sounding gearboxes?
Thanks to content makers like this
Manual BMW V8 are shooting up in price..
And you can expect the good parts too
Fantastic subject !! i was long waiting some gearbox/diff video with good choice and review of each of them.. knowing the ratio directly on your video would've been crazy but a bit o' research ain't gonna kill anyone. Do more !!!
I want to see a manual 7 Speed review as well as some auto 8 !! that's exactly what i wanted,Thanks !
Good to know , thank you man for your grate videos !
It would be great to have a similar video with gearboxes for transverse engine cars.
Getrag F28 on top
Love your videos man!!! Keep going you're doing great!!!.......stay healthy 👍👍👍
A lot of those Tremecs used to be dirt cheap back in the day. Got mine factory direct for about 700 USD about 15 years ago. Now they're like 2500-3000 USD. Quite a difference. They do last, tho. Had it for a long time with no real issues other than some leaks.
Great video as always😉
Out of these option which of them can I use to replace my stock auto. It’s for a project truck that’s gonna be towing a 10k ibs trailer. The rigs “expected weights gonna be around 9k. So 20k ibs dry. Recommendations?😅
the r154 is known for being made out of glass though isn't it? for drifting atleast
Compared to a CD009 or T56? Yes. Its weak. Compared to the W58 though? Pretty strong.
If you shift a bit slower they last for ages, drag or drift.
The cast aluminum shift forks are the weak link if you're abusing a R series. I run one behind a NA 2.7l, broke a couple shift forks then swapped to the billet unit's from marlin crawler. Been good since.
I'm surprised the V160 wasn't on the list instead.
@@PlayinWithMahWii me too the v160 should be right below tbe t56
Yep anything ZF !!!
the last guy with the t56 was dicey, amazing video btw!!!
Request: best SAAB's ever.
Or best Volvo's ever.
I am thinking in terms of succes and public reputation
i almost bought a saab 9-3 from 2008 but i found that finding parts was not easy for it
@@bubajack7461 definitely depends where you live. I live near Sweden so volvos and saabs are dirt cheap. Especially parts for the older ones
@@bubajack7461 try looking in opel/vauxhall parts
I remember my dad telling me about the old Chrysler 4-speed gearboxes, and how they were sometimes referred to as the "rock crusher 4 gear" because they were basically indestructible.
Are you sure he wasn't referring to the Muncie M22 Rock-Crusher 4-speed that went into high-performance GM cars in the '60s?
Ford had a super t 10. All the old 4 speed boxes you couldn't kill. I like having 5th gear, but damn the aluminum case trans you just couldn't have fun without having to work on them.
You can get a T56 for $500 where I live
If youre gonna do best autos id say mercedes 722.3-722.6 they can take lot of power when stock and when upgraded over 1300hp
722.6 is a beast,that it is auto..the 270cdi 6speed 716.654 is the manual to go with
@@joczo97 Yep 722.6 and 270cdi gbox are known to take lot of power and especially those om engines tuned make over 700nm.
I suggest you adding gear ratios when talking about gearboxes
Toyota’s V160/161 is a pretty popular trans as well, it is used in a lot more expensive JZ swaps as well as the TT MK4 Supra. The only issue is that they’re around the $10k mark and usually people pick the T56 over them any day
6 speed ZF from a bmw 320D, that is going into my volvo xD
37DZ, nice
Aisin AR5 is insane too. Intensely strong but also the cheapest budget beefcake manual for me to JZ or LS, cheaper than going CD009 R154 GS6 T56 etc…
It’s the modern American Aisin R154, they even share parts. Some LS people in Western Canada are ditching their brand new T56’s and TR6060’s for AR5’s.
A 3500# Turbo-LS Colorado broke 3rd gear at 800wheel ftlb. Fabbot LS / Driftmotion 2JZ swap parts for AR5 are very very cheap.
I was considering an AR5 to replace the w58 i currently have in my supra. I just bought a 1jz-vvti and plan on building it up, so ill lukely need something stronger. Gonna have to do some research into different types. I was also looking into the ZF series. Still not sure.
Fun fact:actually ZF transimissions can even be used in trucks,so they can take a lot torque!!
Zf especially good with mercedes om engines
ZF trans are used in rams trucks to this day.
@@berardoferrari the superduty fords ran until 2010 or 2011. I forget which was the last. I thought dodge had aisin or something like that as there manual trans.
@@brianadams429 im talking about automatic trans.
they are in trucks.... ram trucks.
3:26 this clip has some serious explaining to do.
Legendary Getrag V161.
MR2 guys will know the Toyota E153 5 speed for power capabilities. 7-800 horsepower capability, more than plenty for any 3SGTE or 2GR swap power goals. They can be bought new from Toyota for $4,000, but can be found used for around $1,500
Zf made some of best trans out there
The T56 might not be standard equipment in any new vehicles, but they are still being produced and sold.
There's plenty more if your willing to settle for 4 speeds but good list!
It took us half year to buy that Getrag 420g for e34 m5, also the name is very interesting :D
Holden’s also had the getrag as well
Eaton fuller 18spd transmissions can take a lot more power.
But tend to weigh more than most cars
Sequential one of them monkeys and it'd be a weapon, albeit heavy weapon
T-6060 and Getrag V160 for the next video
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You should do a fwd version on this video
What about the four-speed Muncie and two-speed power glide?
Audi 01E Transmisson? It can handle easy over 1000hp and 1000nm
there are many 01E gearboxes
how about making the same video for awd gearboxes?
I think we need a part two for this as there are a lot more to do. Is it a possibility?
For sure
So the bmw boxes pretty much all have the same bellhousings? What about clutch plates an flywheels?
Can you do the same video with Automatic ones ?
1:06 desmonetized
How about a guide on how to choose the right transmission to turn something like a Honda L15 , Chrysler four cylinder out of a Dodge Neon, Renault Cleon, or similar, for example, round for a rear wheel drive layout for a small hot rod or kit car?
Correct video's title should be "5 manual gearboxes that will disappear soon"
Naaaaah there are more CD009s and T56s out there than there are people building cars. Also didnt mention the ZF boxes in the GM LFX cars that are strong and super plentiful.
My 2006 Gto T56 blew up. Will the t56 Magnum fit or the Magnum F ?
Where have you been man we missed ya
Well, nothing beats the t56. I repeat, nothing.
The GSR Gforce Dogbox nascar transmission has entered the chat
The bmw 6sp 420G can easily handle 1000hp and north of 600+NM of tq. For a cheaper version, the bow ZF 5sp has also been known to handle 1000hp but its better to keep power at 800hp & 500-600NM of TQ or so max.
Wait, you put the r154 instead of the v161? Just saying
Rb25/z32 trans can take a beating they cost between 2-600 usd. They're limited to about 500 ft lbs. They can take little more if you're careful with shock/wheel hop etc.
Then, the strongest automatic gearbox
The CAT 797F transmission would surely make that list
Powerglide....3000hp all day with the right internals
Can I use the gs6 53dz in a 325i? Please help me
An idea for next video, trucks with petrol engines? :)
Any particular suggestions?
@@VisioRacer Whole bunch of Soviet/Russian trucks, Zil 130, Gaz 53, Gaz 66, Ural 375 or Polish Star 66 or 660.
Missed the volvo manual gearbox
Where is getrag v160 v161 ? 🤔🤔
I'm from Tripoli Libya
That GETRAG 6 speed will cost you an arm and leg to buy here
How much
Mercedes 270cdi 716.654?
That box is capable of handling the insane torque of an om605/606 superturbo,where most people use it
what about AZ6?
Also the tr6060 is very strong
Is there much different from the GS6-53BZ and the GS6-53DZ
Not really except ratios
BZ is a petrol gearbox and DZ is the Diesel box, so will have longer gears and in theory hold up better
6MT 4WD Getrag 233 on Nissan Skyline GT-R R34. And 6MT RWD Getrag V161 on Toyota Supra.
Rumoured to be the same fundamental gearbox as the Getrag 420G as all 3 were made by Getrag at the same time, but the BMW one didn't get the JDM Icon tax applied to price
Where is legendary v160/v161 gearbox ????
are you brazillian?
Don't forget the Tremec TR-6060 6-Speed Manual. www.tremec.com/anexos/File/TREMEC_TR-6060.pdf
you missed the saenz gearboxes
its arousing hearing loud engines
No Muncie M22?
The Rockcrusher is the original beast, I put one in my El Camino after my Saginaw 4-speed imploded lol :)
Three things:
1. SCREW the R154. They finicky as they can either be a pile of bolts or a solid transmission. However one thing that they all share is terrible shifting feel.
2. CD009 are great, as I have one for my UZ swap but Holy crap they are heavy!
3. No one gonna mention the AR-5? It's an updated R-Series transmission with a shifter feel of a W-Series and has triple syncros and super robust. Quite a nice option for those in the JZ platform.
I have an AR-5 behind my Colorado four cylinder. That little transmission is a tank.
Of course automatics have gotten so much better than the past decade but it still doesn’t give the same experience a manual gives
V160?
Nice video, very professional coverage of an odd subject. It pains me to see nice cars drift. (Somehow drag racing doesn't). My preferance is cars and bikes cornering at the limit without "pomp and circumstance". Yeah, we blew your doors off around that corner, so what? Keep it straight and go fast folks!
Why does the comment section on your video on android app is down here, am i the only one? Normally it below your channel name.
TKO600?
The CD can handle 700+ftlb of torque if it's not abused
Check Samsonas gearbox
Toyota's E153 can take quite bit of power too
Why the t56 if the tr6060 is literally better in every way?
There basically the same
Where’s the STI gearbox dude. Those things are known to take like 750hp/~800ft.lbs from the factory. That’s why it’s been around since 2000.
What? They break on stock cars man.
Had a tow truck driver tell me it was a weekly occurrence.
Since the 90's they've been selling dog boxes because they are weak
@@janeblogs324 haven't heard anything bad about the transmissions in the STI. The engine is a different story....
Sailor Poon the 5 speed is made of glass the 6 speed is more than 2x as strong
@@janeblogs324 the confusing part is there are 2 modern 6 speed AWD for subie, the STI ones are ways more beefier than the one on WRX ones.
Don't forget the baby Aisin AR-5. It will handle 400lb of torque.
Bro you forgot the getrag v160
Porsche makes the best gearboxes, manual and automatic, but they can be pricey due to their high quality
ZF makes the transmissions for Porsche
@@michaelharrison1093 Not for the older ones though, from what I understand
I mean shit our b5 Audi transmissions have seen 900whp without breaking talk about major power 😮💨
Universal just plug and play@ride ke?..next
You`ve forgotten to mention Getrag 260 and GS5-39DZ. It`s drifters go-to choices when R154 is way too expensive at the moment of making the build.
The Getrag 260 is incredibly weak, and the much preferred gearbox is the ZF310/320
That said, I never broke my 260, before I upgraded it to a Getrag 420G
R154's are still sold new from driftmotion.
Where's box from Audi 2.2 T 6 speed ? ;)
The 01E 5- and 6 speeds, especially from diesels, are great at can often handle 1000 Nm in AWD drive. But they are long, heavy (70 - 80 kg) and the bellhousing is not removable.
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R154 = AX15 but with taller gears (found in jeeps)
Isn't it also related to the AR-5 found in the Colorado and Solstice GM?