I’m 17 and been haulin skid steers and mini excavators with my pops for masonry work since I was 14 and have been doing it alone for a year since I got my provisional NC license. Looks like I have been outlawing to the max for 3 years now. ( side note: the truck Im hauling with is a 1990 F350 flatbed dually with t he 7.3 and the trailor Is a goose neck all I know is the GVWR Is over 26,000 ( I don’t however know how long the trailor is tho) :)
This video is great for hot shot drivers or company drivers but not for the average Joe The licensing for personal use depends on the state. In Michigan as long as it for personal use no CDL is required.
@@larrybe2900 26000 lbs. limit is nationwide. And over 21 yrs old cdl is nationwide. For personal use as long as you secure everything properly, have everything licensed in ur home state, and drive responsibly it is highly unlikely u will have any problems. States have varying laws on the exact registration process, but call your DMV office for details.
It does not depend on the state. Personal conveyance is federally regulated by the federal motor carrier safety regulations in all 50 atates by the dot
There are recreational Class A DL available. You do not need a full CDL (and all its tests, i.e. air breaks) if you haul only recreational. But, its a hassle to get this established. I am in Texas and had to run around to various DMVs to get this done. Testing is only done on one chapter (I believe chapter 14) of the full CDL and you have to do a driving test with your trailer. The video is correct, the moment you are in any way associated with a business (he said for example race car sponsor ships) you need a full CDL and DOT number. The normal person like me who has a trailer to haul stuff to the deer lease and horses around is only required to have a recreational Class A. I am not aware if there is a visible difference in the DL when officials look at it. Mine does not say 'recreational' and only says Class A. One thing to consider that is often underestimated. You may get a way with it when you just have a RV as the state troopers may not stop you. They are after DOT violations, but.... if you ever get in an accident your insurance has an easy way out of not paying.
please correct me if im wrong... "OKAY for non CDL... if your truck, trailer and load is under 26000 lbs you dont need a CDL no matter what the GVWR on the trailer, as long as your under 26000 lbs combined weight ! So if your dually's CURB WEIGHT: 7,197 lbs. and your trailers curb Weight: 6740.00, then you have a distributed load capacity of 12063 lbs even though the trailers GVWR is 25000 lbs. and your trucks GVWR is 10700 lbs ! as long as your trailer and truck is not under rated for the load capacity or GVWR and current axle ratings!" ?
No, it's based on the gvwr of the truck and trailer, not the weight you're putting on it. If your gvwr of the truck and trailer or a single box truck is over 10,000 lbs and up to 26,000 lbs then you need a D class CDL with a physical.
If your license is valid for your vehicle in your licensing state and it's under fed guidelines, you're legal. This means a California non-resident may be legal to drive a vehicle without a CDL while a CA resident would not (same rig: trailer 10,001+ lb. GVWR with tow&trailer combined GVWR 26,000 or less) within the State of California. Unless you are actually operating commercially (with their own set of exemptions). This vid is a great primer but definitely consult your local DMV as each state has their set of rules that may or may not make sense (triple towing, riders in trailer, etc.).
Just watched this out of curiosity due to my looking to purchase a 3/4ton for standard work. Friend walks behind me and says, why do you care, you're getting ready to take classes for a class A already because of the 7ton monster truck you bought through me and have sitting in my yard. I had him buy me a MTVR MK25 7ton and an M1095 5ton tandem trailer a few months ago and been destroying some of his acres driving it around and learning how it acts. 🤣
Are we sure it is a CDL or a Class-A license that is required? DPS explained to me that in Texas there is both a "Class-A" license and a "Class-A CDL" license. The first type (Class-A) allows over 26,000 combined weight for personal towing (provided not crossing state lines), but if one is paid for the work, then a "Class-A CDL" is required. Can someone confirm this?
So far the only dumping ive done is in the bathroom. Im wanting a small dump trailer so i can start making money with my small tracked skid loader. So what happens if you cant obtain a CDL because of health reasons? I have a heart condition, high blood pressure, diabetes, vision problems and to top it off i take Dr Prescribed Opioids.
I got a ford f350 SRW with GVWR (11,500) I recently bought a 40 ft long flatbed gooseneck trailer to haul hay ONLY not for business, The GVWR for the trailer is (25900) do I need CDL ? I would be hauling 15 round bales no more than that
That's not correct, even if you had that setup seen in the video, and you where carrying your mud-buggy to mudhole, in or over state lines, you would need a CDL. They only way you can carry more than 26000+ and not have a CDL are farms-ag and even with that it's typically restricted to 150 miles or so from the farm and you wheels can't cross any state lines. Even us farmers are limited to 33or 34k lbs for example in my state.
@@doctorsambor4526 I'm not sure what you're asking. A 10k trailer does not mean you need a cdl. If a combination exceeds 26k then the trailer cannot be rated more than 10k or a cdl would be required. 10k truck + 16k trailer = no cdl. 26k truck + 10k trailer = no cdl 10k truck + 16,001 trailer = cdl 26k truck + 10,001 trailer = cdl
Say I buy a manual dodge ram 3500 and tow a 40 foot trailer with it gvw more than 26k . Would I be allowed to operate that combination with a class a auto restricted license? I know you can drive that truck on its own without a cdl in general but does the combination make things different
Disagree. A CDL means commercial so no commercial no CDL unless some wacko state is making up their own rules. You can buy a Prevost RV that weighs about 50,000 lbs and no CDL needed, only maybe the air brake endorsement
Is that for any vehicle? My guidebook says “recreational vehicles” don’t require a CDL if only being used for personal use. What constitutes a “recreational vehicle”, legally speaking
@@barneyboyle6933 Then that's good. Most states do not require recreational vehicles to have a CDL. Recreational just basically means non-commercial. Commercial is any hauling for hire or for personal profit or the ability to make a profit like a race car operation or using your own personal equipment in the overall furtherance of a business. It's pretty far reaching so if what you're hauling can in any way put money in your pocket or the vehicles and equipment is owned by a company that you are an employee of then they will likely view it as commercial. So unless you're strictly RVIng, be careful.
I think he said it in a confusing way in the video. So the combined gross vehicle weight rating has to be under 26000 but if the truck gvwr is over 26000 then you need a Class B CDL and are allowed to pull a trailer with a gvwr max of 10000. If the trailer is more than 10k in that situation then a Class A is required
Does this apply to pulling a travel trailer ? I've got friends that pull a huge travel trailer with a pickup and are probably over 26k pounts, but only have a regular license
No, does not normally apply to recreational towing but check with your home state as there are some states beginning to issue a non-commercial Class A licenses.
So if you are towing a trailer with a gvw of 10,001 lbs you need a cdl? Even if the truck and trailers gvw's added together come out under 26,001lbs? For example, a truck with a 10k lb gvwr and a trailer with a 14k lb gvwr. Only grossing 24k but would the trailer being over 10k mean anything?
Cali yes for sure. Technically you would need a class A in any state for that combo. I just think most drivers do not know, most states do not actively check or enforce. Think of it like this class cdl A is powerplant and trailer is unlimited or up to 80k lbs ( yes oversize and heavy weight permits are doable i.e like the guy that towed the space shuttle in a toyota PU he would need a class A cdl ) A cdl Class B, and a dump truck and can pull a trailer that is 10000 GVWR or under, but as soon as you go over 10001 or higher, you need a Class A. 26000 is the magical number anything over or anything in a class 7 or higher CMV vehicle needs a CDL A Class 6 would be like your Penske yellow box truck 24-26ft box Class 7 would be 33k GVWR box truck, septic truck, Garbage truck, firetruck, heavy oil field maintenance trucks, etc.... Class 8 Semi 18 tractor and the heavy duty tow wrecker ( note in almost all states, if you tow a vehicle that is considered the "trailer" ) So a 2018 Dodge dually towing a Ford 450 would need a class A license
No no no your gvwr of truck and trailer can't surpass 26001 combined if you are under that you can tow over 10k as long as your under 26001lbs. The 10k applies to class b vehicles, in other word once you get a class b and your truck is gvwr of over 26k you can't tow more then 10k pounds without an a.
So if it’s a big rig that has no trailer hookup whatsoever can I register it at a lower gvw? I’m talking about an old box truck with an original gvw of 28000. 88 ford cargo 7000.
And if it is 26,000 Even or less gvwr- you can still tow a 10,000 lb trailer or less and be legal- 36,000 is legal with a 10k or less trailer! Otherwise- Joe homeowner couldn’t rent a 26k uhaul truck- and pull their car on a car trailer.
@@darrenrich3492 perfect! Bought a new F 650 Powerstroke in PA, driving through Canada to Alaska if Canadian Mounties let me, the CDL is new to me, I’ll end up getting the CDL when I get back. Thanks!
No 26001 lbs is the magical number. So unless you have a class7 box truck or one with tandem axles, you can get by driving one with your regular car license.
Private use doesn't matter. You are still bound to be under 26,000 lbs. Commercial or private use determines weather you need a dot#. The gvw listed on your truck plus the gvw listed on the trailer has to add up to 26,000 or less.
This is one case where CA actually makes sense. I thought it was ironic that if you have a cdl you need a class A to haul a trailer over 10,000 but Harry home owner can haul a 16,000 trailer as long as his truck is 10,000. Keeping him under 26 total
@@johnsandlinjr Still doesn't make sense. It just causes people to use 3/4 ton trucks to haul huge trailers to meet the law. A 1 ton with a tandem dual trailer is far safer but, off limits unless you get the cdl.
The correct answer is no. Commercial motor vehicle means a motor vehicle, or combination of motor vehicles, used in commerce to transport passengers or property. However, you do need to check with YOUR state laws. Some states have adopted the same requirements as FMCSA. It can be very complex to understand the FMCSR's, so always check with YOUR state. I have been doing DOT enforcement for over 25 years, including training officers all over the country on the federal side of the FMCSR's. Again, some states adopt federal regulation. If you are pulling a camper for which you will be paid, that is considered commerce and at that point you will need a CDL. I can't emphasize enough to check YOUR state for regulations and requirements.
If I have a Ram 3500 GVWR 14000 and my trailer is GVWR 12000. Im with the 26000lb . Do I Need a cdl ? My confusion is because my trailer is 12000....... ????
@@hidalgoocumaresy Some states require a class A with exemptions for 10,001 lbs or more trailers. Check with your local DPS office or check out the link in the description of this video and find your states guidelines!
You still need a cdl or a class A license in Texas that is non commercial and for rv’s, I highly recommend you just go CDL A no restrictions because in times of hard $$$, it’s a very easy and quick way to make $$$ and also just about anything you decide to get the hind the wheel you will be legal to tow, however don’t get a cdl if you like to speed, drive and phone, drink, Penalties for CDl are much worse than a regular license, I also recommend you google your cdl handbook for your state and make sure it is the government and current year, With a cdl as long as the paperwork and numbers as axle weight rating gvwr (gross vehicles weight rating) gvcwr(gross verhicle COMBINED weight rating) And the correct class cdl, you should be fine to drive semi trucks up to 80,000 lbs and higher with permits, these loads can be as high as 300,000 lbs but that’s permit and takes months of planning with a ton of experience
Yes. If the vehicle alone, or the vehicle and trailer combination is over 26,000 pounds you need your CDL. Since the truck you want is 33,000 pounds it is over the 26,000-pound limit and you will need a CDL. You can get a "class B" CDL which will cover any weight truck with a trailer less than 10,00 pounds, or a "Class A" that will cover any single vehicle and any trailer regardless of weight. Als check if the vehicle has air brakes as you would need an air brake endorsement to drive that vehicle along with the CDL. let me know if you have any other questions!
@@timschnaidt There is no such thing as an air brake endorsement. If you test for your cdl in a truck (like an f350) you will have a no air brake restriction. They will also give you an automatic transmission and no 5th wheel restriction.
@@TERRORoftheLORD you're right, my bad! When I took my test the trainer kept calling it an endorsement but it's just not having a restriction like you said!
Be careful with FL trooper , I ran with two towing outfits in SEFLA back in 2006-2008 and the towed vehicle is a "trailer" So if you have a rollback and rear lift , if the item you are towing is over 10000lb you need a class A , just a heads up. So a International workstar ( dual tandem rear ) would need a Class B CDL but if you have a lift and tow a big heavy truck or something behind it & over 10000lb you need a class A.
So with an empty load with just the truck and trailer you still need the CDL when your under the combined weight limit of 26,000lbs? Or do you need the CDL when the combined weight limit of the truck and trailer are at 44,000lbs even when empty?
He is mistaken. If weight rating is over 10,000 lbs and up to 26,000 lbs then you have to have a D class CDL with a physical. It doesn't matter what state you're in, the CDL and DOT regulations are federal so it's the same nationwide.
As long as the truck doesn't weigh more than 10,805 you're fine. Even if it did you wouldn't need a CDL, but you could get ticketed for being overweight
So my F250 has GVWR of 10,000 and the trailer I want was built to have GVWR of 21,000 but would be de-rated to 16,000 GVWR, can I tow a 13,000lb excavator on it? And btw, it will be gooseneck. And the trailer weighs about 5,000lbs
No CDL required if trailer is actually tagged (not just registered) for 16k GVWR. If the trailer and excavator weigh 18k, then the truck can't weigh more than 8k. The 13k exc. and the 5k trailer exceed the trailer's 16k rating, but that 13k will be distributed and shared on the truck's axle so that should be fine, but close. This is based on Fed Regs and may be different in your state
Can I de-rate a trailer to get below the 26,001? I just need to get my purchased trailer from Texas to Kentucky and use the trailer on my farm in Kentucky. If so,....perhaps simply registering it for less than the mfg. rating?
Go to the dealer you purchased the trailer from ! They will contact the manufacturer and for a FEE the Mfger will issue a NEW Specification sticker you can post on the trailer to replace the old sticker !
Ok can somone answer this question for me I live in Kentucky and I do lawn care so I’m thinking about getting a 16 foot tandem axle utility trailer for lawn mowers do I need a cdl for it since it’s a business
Probably not. But, one thing not mentioned in this video is... you are a Commercial Driver if the combined truck and trailer have a capacity exceeding 10,00lbs and is used in commerce. This requires you to have a DOT physical, the truck needs DOT numbers etc. Middle ground between an Operator's license and a CDL.
with a big question those are asked if they need a CDL to drive a truck and trailer combination when cases if their truck has a GVWR of 14,000 LBS and factor in the trailer's GVWR which is at least 12,000 LBS when the cutoff point is 26,001 LBS in their jurisdiction when the fear without a CDL is like driving on a suspended license.
If it’s personal use it doesn’t matter. If it’s professional, just get the cdl and you’ll always be able to move up in your career without any worries. Cdls are not all that hard to earn, just can be expensive.
It is common to see the same rates axles in different rates trailer builds. Some manufacturers prefer using an over rated axle just to eliminate the axles as a weak point.
@@censoredeveryday3320 That's my understanding. To clarify, It's the combined GVWR that needs to stay under 26,001 as well as the "actual" measured weight.
@@Daniel-kn7qn If I have a 12k truck and a 14k trailer puts me at 26k, I am good, got it. Now what about if I have a 5k load on the trailer, do I need a CDL now or is it only based on the truck and trailer empty?
@Cosas Usuales Con Gibson the trailer being 14k gvwr means it can not be loaded past that trailer+load. can not exceed 14k. Unless it's a very heavy trailer I don't see 5k putting you over that 14k mark. So I'd say you are good to go.
@@joshdethloff5474 You can drive a large vehicle that is titled and registered as an rv anywhere you want. However, driving a combination truck and trailer over 26,000 that is not an rv will require a cdl weather its personal or not.
@@TERRORoftheLORD that only depends on your home state regulations for example in Missouri you can buy a semi and lowboy trailer and put a d6 on it as long as you prove it is for personal use at your home and not for commerce you can legally do it with out a cdl you would still have to buy permits for for oversize the best thing he can do is call the highway patrol or stop by and they will explain what he has to it doesn't have to have but it goes by state regulation
@@TERRORoftheLORD not trying to seem rude man i don't know where you are at but I know for a fact with missouri I've been in plenty of scale houses it doesn't matter s long as you are within legal length and tire and axle ratings 26001 is only related by the fmcsa for commerce and certain states Kansas requires a class b i believe if have again but alot of states don't require it
I drive truck like 28 ft less than 26,000 pounds for business. Nevertheless do I need a CDL. I been working under the supervision of FedEx and Amazon as a Independent Contractor and looking to buy and operate my own truck.
awesome video. quick question? i have a f350 with a Gvwr of 13000 with a class B cdl, what trailer should i get and what the weight limit with a Class B CDL? thank you
I don't know what state you're in but in my state If the truck and trailer do not weigh over 26000 pounds you don't need A CDL Only if the truck and trailer weigh More than 26000 pounds You need one Your GVWR just says what the trailer is able to be rated to haul You can pull that trailer all day long without A CDL And as long as you don't load it over the 26000 pound limit You're You should really adjust your videos Because people that are in my state might watch this and if they don't know Any better they might miss out on a trailer because they don't want to get A CD L
A B class CDL is for a single vehicle like a box truck over 26,000 lbs gvwr, and any truck/trailer combination at that weight requires an A class CDL. A D class CDL with a physical will cover a gvwr over 10,000 lbs and up to 26,000 lbs with a truck/trailer or a box truck.
Sooo many comments/ questions wasted on "do I need CDL for a trailer over 10k".... YES BUT, what about say a 19k truck and a 10k trailer, while towing only 1 toothpick? (both empty, probably only at 11k) Are you saying I can drive my 19k truck, without the trailer hooked up? Even if im wellllll below 26k ?
🛻🛻⁉️ *Question: So you’re saying I need a CDL license just to drive a truck and trailer that’s over 26,001 pounds even if I’m NOT involved in commercial activity? Like if I’m taking a boat to the lake?*
Wow this was just all to sell stuff. I’m surprised you guys didn’t try selling the truck or your own body parts. I literally didn’t get a single piece of new information except to buy an over priced trailer. As long as you don’t pass the trailers weight you’d be fine. Basically with my fifth wheel toy hauler and 14k heavy equipment gooseneck trailer with a loaded 350 DWR I’m fine. I wouldn’t go into hardcore states like Jersey or Cali with them but I know for a fact that I’m not getting pulled over. I’d get the CDL from a reputable place when I need it but not because of scare tactics. Even the guys that have them still do stupid things. As long as your not planning on going to setup shop doing heavy loads you’d be fine. Just do the math and don’t listen to clowns like this that can’t even get their sound bites working right.
He says the truck has a GVWR of 14k which isn’t fully true. The trailer has a GVWR of 30k so therefore he’s over the 26k which isn’t true the law dictates if you have a GVWR of less than 26k not GCVWR which is Gross Combine Weight Rating not GVWR you don’t need a CDL. So this video is misleading. You’d need the CDL for the trailer because it’s a big trailer by big it’s a 30k GVWR trailer for hauling commercially not because GCVWR. So if it was smaller like under the 26k you’d be fine but yes you’d not want to load up the truck. So if he says GVWR than that’s fine but he confuses GVWR and GCVWR. But having said that in Cali they make you get the CDL if the trailer is more than 10k but that’s because they want the money for it on taxes and they want to make sure your not going to wreck out on the mountains. But having said that this video is misleading you don’t look at the GVWR and call it a GCVWR that’s why everyone is confused.
I live in a state with no title for under 4,000lb empty trailer weight. I have a "homebuilt" tri-axle trailer that weighs 2840lbs and has no weight sticker. In this case it reverts to registered weight.
@@haroldphipps3457 Not sure how to do that but I had to unhitch the trailer from the truck and weigh it on a certified scale. So 2840 is with the large ramps attached. It is a tube steel trailer with triple torsion axles and a steel deck and fenders. The deck is only 13'6" long. It sits balanced when disconnected from the truck and needs no jack with the ramps on.
@@maximumwoof8662 Homebuilt is a designation. My trailer is an incredibly well built factory trailer that has torsion axles, 6 brakes, and is fully galvanized including the wheels. Anything not factory tagged with a vin plate is Homemade here.
Super annoying to hear people repeatedly say “twenty six thousand and one pounds” over and over, while holding up their index finger..😆🙄 Not to mention, it makes you incorrect. You state, “hauling OVER twenty six thousand and one pounds, absolutely need CDL.” This would technically imply that hauling EXACTLY 26,001 lbs would not need CDL, which would be dead wrong. A person just makes themselves sound silly saying it that way. Totally unnecessary also. The legal threshold is either up to 26,000 or over 26,000. Therefore, it’s pretty unnecessary to repeatedly say “twenty six thousand and one pounds…” Or the even sillier variant, “twenty six thousand and one pounds or above..” A person sounds like a child when they express it like that. What’s next? “Twenty six thousand and one and two and three and four..”🤦♂️ Just say it like an adult. “Anything over twenty six thousand pounds falls under the CDL category. Twenty six thousand pounds or less does not.” There. Concise, correct, and mature sounding.👍
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My dodge ram 3500 gvwr is 11,400lb and trailer gvwr 12,000 lb-do i need a cdl? Because trailer over 10k pounds i probably need cdl?
When you realize you been outlaw trucking in your pickup😂
Perks of having an f250 with heavier springs and other upgrades... I can be “legal” with a bigger trailer and still be safe hauling it
@@1_2_Many_Projects Yeah but you'd still be rebel-rousin down the interstate.
Must be a good feeling.
Aaaaaaaaayyyyy >:D
I’m 17 and been haulin skid steers and mini excavators with my pops for masonry work since I was 14 and have been doing it alone for a year since I got my provisional NC license. Looks like I have been outlawing to the max for 3 years now. ( side note: the truck Im hauling with is a 1990 F350 flatbed dually with t he 7.3 and the trailor Is a goose neck all I know is the GVWR Is over 26,000 ( I don’t however know how long the trailor is tho) :)
This video is great for hot shot drivers or company drivers but not for the average Joe
The licensing for personal use depends on the state. In Michigan as long as it for personal use no CDL is required.
Are all states reciprocal in allowing what is not allowed to be registered in their state.
@@larrybe2900 26000 lbs. limit is nationwide. And over 21 yrs old cdl is nationwide. For personal use as long as you secure everything properly, have everything licensed in ur home state, and drive responsibly it is highly unlikely u will have any problems. States have varying laws on the exact registration process, but call your DMV office for details.
It does not depend on the state. Personal conveyance is federally regulated by the federal motor carrier safety regulations in all 50 atates by the dot
There are recreational Class A DL available. You do not need a full CDL (and all its tests, i.e. air breaks) if you haul only recreational. But, its a hassle to get this established. I am in Texas and had to run around to various DMVs to get this done. Testing is only done on one chapter (I believe chapter 14) of the full CDL and you have to do a driving test with your trailer. The video is correct, the moment you are in any way associated with a business (he said for example race car sponsor ships) you need a full CDL and DOT number. The normal person like me who has a trailer to haul stuff to the deer lease and horses around is only required to have a recreational Class A. I am not aware if there is a visible difference in the DL when officials look at it. Mine does not say 'recreational' and only says Class A.
One thing to consider that is often underestimated. You may get a way with it when you just have a RV as the state troopers may not stop you. They are after DOT violations, but.... if you ever get in an accident your insurance has an easy way out of not paying.
Finally a video that has the CDL requirements right! The only thing that is exempt in California, is for RV trailers.
I love your super easy super simple way of talking. very informative thank you
They need to move the weight up it not been changed for 40yesrs back thin truck small and now you got big 4 first it need to be moved up 30000
please correct me if im wrong...
"OKAY for non CDL... if your truck, trailer and load is under 26000 lbs you dont need a CDL no matter what the GVWR on the trailer, as long as your under 26000 lbs combined weight !
So if your dually's CURB WEIGHT: 7,197 lbs. and your trailers curb Weight: 6740.00,
then you have a distributed load capacity of 12063 lbs even though the trailers GVWR is 25000 lbs. and your trucks GVWR is 10700 lbs !
as long as your trailer and truck is not under rated for the load capacity or GVWR and current axle ratings!" ?
You are wrong. Manufacturer ratings are what determines not actual weight.
No, it's based on the gvwr of the truck and trailer, not the weight you're putting on it. If your gvwr of the truck and trailer or a single box truck is over 10,000 lbs and up to 26,000 lbs then you need a D class CDL with a physical.
If your license is valid for your vehicle in your licensing state and it's under fed guidelines, you're legal. This means a California non-resident may be legal to drive a vehicle without a CDL while a CA resident would not (same rig: trailer 10,001+ lb. GVWR with tow&trailer combined GVWR 26,000 or less) within the State of California. Unless you are actually operating commercially (with their own set of exemptions). This vid is a great primer but definitely consult your local DMV as each state has their set of rules that may or may not make sense (triple towing, riders in trailer, etc.).
Can this be verified?
Just watched this out of curiosity due to my looking to purchase a 3/4ton for standard work. Friend walks behind me and says, why do you care, you're getting ready to take classes for a class A already because of the 7ton monster truck you bought through me and have sitting in my yard. I had him buy me a MTVR MK25 7ton and an M1095 5ton tandem trailer a few months ago and been destroying some of his acres driving it around and learning how it acts. 🤣
Are we sure it is a CDL or a Class-A license that is required? DPS explained to me that in Texas there is both a "Class-A" license and a "Class-A CDL" license. The first type (Class-A) allows over 26,000 combined weight for personal towing (provided not crossing state lines), but if one is paid for the work, then a "Class-A CDL" is required. Can someone confirm this?
Go on the website he listed or go your your state website
So far the only dumping ive done is in the bathroom. Im wanting a small dump trailer so i can start making money with my small tracked skid loader. So what happens if you cant obtain a CDL because of health reasons? I have a heart condition, high blood pressure, diabetes, vision problems and to top it off i take Dr Prescribed Opioids.
I'm wondering the same thing
May have to start eating healthy and exercise
Producer... the switching over to the side shot constantly is distracting and odd.. cant you put in b roll of supporting shots?
Anything above 2006.1 pounds for combination vehicle you do need. CDL just common sense
Apply to WIOA for a grant to get the CDL schooling.
I got a ford f350 SRW with GVWR (11,500) I recently bought a 40 ft long flatbed gooseneck trailer to haul hay ONLY not for business, The GVWR for the trailer is (25900) do I need CDL ? I would be hauling 15 round bales no more than that
You don't need a CDL if it's for personal use. No matter what the gvwr is. If you are making money then you would need a cdl. Hope that helps
If i never go to California can i tow a trailer over 10k if my combined gvwr is under 26k ?
Does the length of the trailer matter? Or the combination of both trailer n vehicle?
1:06 is the key word “commercially”? I’ve heard that recreational use like RVs are only total length limited.
That's not correct, even if you had that setup seen in the video, and you where carrying your mud-buggy to mudhole, in or over state lines, you would need a CDL.
They only way you can carry more than 26000+ and not have a CDL are farms-ag and even with that it's typically restricted to 150 miles or so from the farm and you wheels can't cross any state lines. Even us farmers are limited to 33or 34k lbs for example in my state.
My retired airline pilot friend has a 50,000 lb Prevost RV and no CDL, just a regular license.
I read the Federal requirement for CDL for any trailer over 10,000 lbs GVWR
People say that all the time, but it's not the case.
@@joshhamel5853 what does it mean then lol
@@doctorsambor4526 I'm not sure what you're asking. A 10k trailer does not mean you need a cdl. If a combination exceeds 26k then the trailer cannot be rated more than 10k or a cdl would be required.
10k truck + 16k trailer = no cdl.
26k truck + 10k trailer = no cdl
10k truck + 16,001 trailer = cdl
26k truck + 10,001 trailer = cdl
Say I buy a manual dodge ram 3500 and tow a 40 foot trailer with it gvw more than 26k . Would I be allowed to operate that combination with a class a auto restricted license? I know you can drive that truck on its own without a cdl in general but does the combination make things different
cant tow more than 10k in jersey
Do I need a cdl for a non cdl flatbed ??just asking
You don’t need one though if it’s for personal use.
False. It’s based on weight not use
Disagree. A CDL means commercial so no commercial no CDL unless some wacko state is making up their own rules. You can buy a Prevost RV that weighs about 50,000 lbs and no CDL needed, only maybe the air brake endorsement
Is that for any vehicle? My guidebook says “recreational vehicles” don’t require a CDL if only being used for personal use. What constitutes a “recreational vehicle”, legally speaking
@@barneyboyle6933
Then that's good. Most states do not require recreational vehicles to have a CDL. Recreational just basically means non-commercial. Commercial is any hauling for hire or for personal profit or the ability to make a profit like a race car operation or using your own personal equipment in the overall furtherance of a business. It's pretty far reaching so if what you're hauling can in any way put money in your pocket or the vehicles and equipment is owned by a company that you are an employee of then they will likely view it as commercial. So unless you're strictly RVIng, be careful.
When you say if the trailer is over 10k you need a cdl do you mean empty weight or GVWR?
He said it confusing. U can’t be over 26000 sitting on the DOT scale. the manufactures ratings don’t matter if it’s empty
@@nathanholloway1623 you’re wrong it’s entirely about the manufacture rating.
I think he said it in a confusing way in the video. So the combined gross vehicle weight rating has to be under 26000 but if the truck gvwr is over 26000 then you need a Class B CDL and are allowed to pull a trailer with a gvwr max of 10000. If the trailer is more than 10k in that situation then a Class A is required
@@Silverado06 Correct!
@@Silverado06 yes 100% correct & perfectly written
Does this apply to pulling a travel trailer ? I've got friends that pull a huge travel trailer with a pickup and are probably over 26k pounts, but only have a regular license
No, does not normally apply to recreational towing but check with your home state as there are some states beginning to issue a non-commercial Class A licenses.
So if you are towing a trailer with a gvw of 10,001 lbs you need a cdl? Even if the truck and trailers gvw's added together come out under 26,001lbs? For example, a truck with a 10k lb gvwr and a trailer with a 14k lb gvwr. Only grossing 24k but would the trailer being over 10k mean anything?
Cali yes for sure. Technically you would need a class A in any state for that combo. I just think most drivers do not know, most states do not actively check or enforce.
Think of it like this class cdl A is powerplant and trailer is unlimited or up to 80k lbs ( yes oversize and heavy weight permits are doable i.e like the guy that towed the space shuttle in a toyota PU he would need a class A cdl )
A cdl Class B, and a dump truck and can pull a trailer that is 10000 GVWR or under, but as soon as you go over 10001 or higher, you need a Class A.
26000 is the magical number anything over or anything in a class 7 or higher CMV vehicle needs a CDL
A Class 6 would be like your Penske yellow box truck 24-26ft box
Class 7 would be 33k GVWR box truck, septic truck, Garbage truck, firetruck, heavy oil field maintenance trucks, etc....
Class 8 Semi 18 tractor and the heavy duty tow wrecker ( note in almost all states, if you tow a vehicle that is considered the "trailer" ) So a 2018 Dodge dually towing a Ford 450 would need a class A license
No no no your gvwr of truck and trailer can't surpass 26001 combined if you are under that you can tow over 10k as long as your under 26001lbs. The 10k applies to class b vehicles, in other word once you get a class b and your truck is gvwr of over 26k you can't tow more then 10k pounds without an a.
I love your videos. They're entertaining and educating.
So if it’s a big rig that has no trailer hookup whatsoever can I register it at a lower gvw? I’m talking about an old box truck with an original gvw of 28000. 88 ford cargo 7000.
No, the gvwr is what it's rated for and has to be registered at that weight rating.
yes, if your rig is over 26,001# combined gross vehicle weight rating.
If my truck is 26,000 GVWR and I add an aluminum flat bed option weighing about 1,000lbs, am I required to have a CDL??
No- it it lessens the weight it can hold, by 1000 lbs.
@@darrenrich3492 thank you!
And if it is 26,000 Even or less gvwr- you can still tow a 10,000 lb trailer or less and be legal- 36,000 is legal with a 10k or less trailer! Otherwise- Joe homeowner couldn’t rent a 26k uhaul truck- and pull their car on a car trailer.
@@darrenrich3492 perfect! Bought a new F 650 Powerstroke in PA, driving through Canada to Alaska if Canadian Mounties let me, the CDL is new to me, I’ll end up getting the CDL when I get back. Thanks!
Me too- Im getting my dot physical next week Amd taking the permit test! Before Feby2022-
Question. If the box truck gvwr 26,000 and pay loud is 1000 do I need a cdl
No 26001 lbs is the magical number. So unless you have a class7 box truck or one with tandem axles, you can get by driving one with your regular car license.
can you cover for private use...you only mentioned CA says if trailer is 10k or higher res or comm CDL is required...what about outside of CA?
Private use doesn't matter. You are still bound to be under 26,000 lbs. Commercial or private use determines weather you need a dot#. The gvw listed on your truck plus the gvw listed on the trailer has to add up to 26,000 or less.
@@TERRORoftheLORD thanks for the info
This is one case where CA actually makes sense. I thought it was ironic that if you have a cdl you need a class A to haul a trailer over 10,000 but Harry home owner can haul a 16,000 trailer as long as his truck is 10,000. Keeping him under 26 total
@@johnsandlinjr Still doesn't make sense. It just causes people to use 3/4 ton trucks to haul huge trailers to meet the law. A 1 ton with a tandem dual trailer is far safer but, off limits unless you get the cdl.
@@TERRORoftheLORD
You get into what the vehicle is rated to tow legally.
What if I’m towing an RV and my GVWR is over 26,001 lbs? Do I still need a CDL? Great video, thank you
You will! Anything over 26,001 pounds snd in some states if you don't exceed that, but your trailer or RV is 10,001 or more you need a CDL still.
The correct answer is no. Commercial motor vehicle means a motor vehicle, or combination of motor vehicles, used in commerce to transport passengers or property. However, you do need to check with YOUR state laws. Some states have adopted the same requirements as FMCSA. It can be very complex to understand the FMCSR's, so always check with YOUR state. I have been doing DOT enforcement for over 25 years, including training officers all over the country on the federal side of the FMCSR's. Again, some states adopt federal regulation. If you are pulling a camper for which you will be paid, that is considered commerce and at that point you will need a CDL. I can't emphasize enough to check YOUR state for regulations and requirements.
If I have a Ram 3500 GVWR 14000 and my trailer is GVWR 12000. Im with the 26000lb . Do I Need a cdl ? My confusion is because my trailer is 12000....... ????
@@hidalgoocumaresy Some states require a class A with exemptions for 10,001 lbs or more trailers. Check with your local DPS office or check out the link in the description of this video and find your states guidelines!
You still need a cdl or a class A license in Texas that is non commercial and for rv’s, I highly recommend you just go CDL A no restrictions because in times of hard $$$, it’s a very easy and quick way to make $$$ and also just about anything you decide to get the hind the wheel you will be legal to tow, however don’t get a cdl if you like to
speed,
drive and phone,
drink,
Penalties for CDl are much worse than a regular license, I also recommend you google your cdl handbook for your state and make sure it is the government and current year,
With a cdl as long as the paperwork and numbers as
axle weight rating
gvwr (gross vehicles weight rating)
gvcwr(gross verhicle COMBINED weight rating)
And the correct class cdl, you should be fine to drive semi trucks up to 80,000 lbs and higher with permits, these loads can be as high as 300,000 lbs but that’s permit and takes months of planning with a ton of experience
I need a cdl to pull a trailer in the future ....
Some Hazmat can be 1 gram, and still need placards which requires endorsements.
I want to buy a truck the sticker on the door says GVWR 33000 lb do I need a CDL?! Towing truck to work as local in Florida
Yes. If the vehicle alone, or the vehicle and trailer combination is over 26,000 pounds you need your CDL. Since the truck you want is 33,000 pounds it is over the 26,000-pound limit and you will need a CDL. You can get a "class B" CDL which will cover any weight truck with a trailer less than 10,00 pounds, or a "Class A" that will cover any single vehicle and any trailer regardless of weight. Als check if the vehicle has air brakes as you would need an air brake endorsement to drive that vehicle along with the CDL. let me know if you have any other questions!
@@timschnaidt There is no such thing as an air brake endorsement. If you test for your cdl in a truck (like an f350) you will have a no air brake restriction. They will also give you an automatic transmission and no 5th wheel restriction.
@@TERRORoftheLORD you're right, my bad! When I took my test the trainer kept calling it an endorsement but it's just not having a restriction like you said!
@@timschnaidt I only know because I was "corrected"...lol
Be careful with FL trooper , I ran with two towing outfits in SEFLA back in 2006-2008 and the towed vehicle is a "trailer"
So if you have a rollback and rear lift , if the item you are towing is over 10000lb you need a class A , just a heads up. So a International workstar ( dual tandem rear ) would need a Class B CDL but if you have a lift and tow a big heavy truck or something behind it & over 10000lb you need a class A.
So with an empty load with just the truck and trailer you still need the CDL when your under the combined weight limit of 26,000lbs? Or do you need the CDL when the combined weight limit of the truck and trailer are at 44,000lbs even when empty?
Even if empty you need one.. its goes off the rating not the actual weight
If you GVWR ON YOUR TRUCK AND TRAILER ARE 26,001 or over (empty) then you need one .
Because that what your setup can tow if needed is your GVWR
He is mistaken. If weight rating is over 10,000 lbs and up to 26,000 lbs then you have to have a D class CDL with a physical. It doesn't matter what state you're in, the CDL and DOT regulations are federal so it's the same nationwide.
Well if I’m hauling a sealcoat tank on my flatbed that weighs 15.195ibs & my truck is gvwr of 26.000ibs in Florida will I be ok?
As long as the truck doesn't weigh more than 10,805 you're fine. Even if it did you wouldn't need a CDL, but you could get ticketed for being overweight
So my F250 has GVWR of 10,000 and the trailer I want was built to have GVWR of 21,000 but would be de-rated to 16,000 GVWR, can I tow a 13,000lb excavator on it? And btw, it will be gooseneck. And the trailer weighs about 5,000lbs
No CDL required if trailer is actually tagged (not just registered) for 16k GVWR.
If the trailer and excavator weigh 18k, then the truck can't weigh more than 8k.
The 13k exc. and the 5k trailer exceed the trailer's 16k rating, but that 13k will be distributed and shared on the truck's axle so that should be fine, but close.
This is based on Fed Regs and may be different in your state
No trailer has to be de rated to 9999lbs truck could be 16k though
If you transport Commercially?? Right. What if you don't transport anything Commercially. It wasn't that clear up front.
Most states got different commercial laws
Can I de-rate a trailer to get below the 26,001? I just need to get my purchased trailer from Texas to Kentucky and use the trailer on my farm in Kentucky. If so,....perhaps simply registering it for less than the mfg. rating?
Check locally for farm exemptions.
Go to the dealer you purchased the trailer from ! They will contact the manufacturer and for a FEE the Mfger will issue a NEW Specification sticker you can post on the trailer to replace the old sticker !
De rate to 9999lbs
Ok can somone answer this question for me I live in Kentucky and I do lawn care so I’m thinking about getting a 16 foot tandem axle utility trailer for lawn mowers do I need a cdl for it since it’s a business
Probably not. But, one thing not mentioned in this video is... you are a Commercial Driver if the combined truck and trailer have a capacity exceeding 10,00lbs and is used in commerce. This requires you to have a DOT physical, the truck needs DOT numbers etc. Middle ground between an Operator's license and a CDL.
So if my truck GVWR is 14, 000 and my trailer GVWR is 10, 000 and my GCVWR is 24, 000..I'm good from getting a CDL license right??
Correct. They will also build any trailer for you and "de-rate" it on the tag to whatever you want.
with a big question those are asked if they need a CDL to drive a truck and trailer combination when cases if their truck has a GVWR of 14,000 LBS and factor in the trailer's GVWR which is at least 12,000 LBS when the cutoff point is 26,001 LBS in their jurisdiction when the fear without a CDL is like driving on a suspended license.
@@daniellibich1376 jurisdiction doesn't matter since they are federal regulations. Although California has a 10k trailer law that requires a cdl.
If it’s personal use it doesn’t matter. If it’s professional, just get the cdl and you’ll always be able to move up in your career without any worries. Cdls are not all that hard to earn, just can be expensive.
You are misleading people. You don't need a CDL to move a combine down the highway and it is well over 26,000 pounds.
Depending on state, yes you do. If it's personal use, over 26001 u need a class a license. Not a cdl class a. If it's for business it's class a cdl
Truck is 10k trailer is factory derated to 14k funny how my buddys "20k" trailer and my "14k" trailer axles are identical lol
It is common to see the same rates axles in different rates trailer builds. Some manufacturers prefer using an over rated axle just to eliminate the axles as a weak point.
Can someone tag me some titles on how to load my freight on my trailer I'm new to this
❓ Would I need a CDL for aF-650
Supertruck
No trailer❓
F-650's are rated at 26k so no you wouldn't
It's simple if your trailer is over 10k you need a cdl regardless of any other weight ratings
Negative. Your trailer can be over 10,000lbs as long as the total with the power unit is under 26,001lbs.
@@JeremiahReddy Even for personal use and for an RV (travel trailer) ?
@@censoredeveryday3320 That's my understanding. To clarify, It's the combined GVWR that needs to stay under 26,001 as well as the "actual" measured weight.
@@JeremiahReddy That means a lot of people puling large trailer trailers are not legal lol
Could’ve just said YES OR NO🤦🏽♂️
Farmers aren’t required to have cdls
I’m still confused about the trailer part of the equation. If my truck is 12k GVWR and my trailer is 14k GVWR, do I need a cdl? Thanks
No you don't but you are at the border line
@@Daniel-kn7qn If I have a 12k truck and a 14k trailer puts me at 26k, I am good, got it. Now what about if I have a 5k load on the trailer, do I need a CDL now or is it only based on the truck and trailer empty?
@Cosas Usuales Con Gibson the trailer being 14k gvwr means it can not be loaded past that trailer+load. can not exceed 14k. Unless it's a very heavy trailer I don't see 5k putting you over that 14k mark. So I'd say you are good to go.
Yes, you need a D class CDL with a physical. A gvwr over 10,000 lbs and up to 26,000 lbs requires one.
Do I need cdl haul my personal cars Like cross country?
No. Unless you are over 26,000 gvwr combined
@@TERRORoftheLORD no you don't need it at all unless you are making money off of it personal use never requires a cdl
@@joshdethloff5474 You can drive a large vehicle that is titled and registered as an rv anywhere you want.
However, driving a combination truck and trailer over 26,000 that is not an rv will require a cdl weather its personal or not.
@@TERRORoftheLORD that only depends on your home state regulations for example in Missouri you can buy a semi and lowboy trailer and put a d6 on it as long as you prove it is for personal use at your home and not for commerce you can legally do it with out a cdl you would still have to buy permits for for oversize the best thing he can do is call the highway patrol or stop by and they will explain what he has to it doesn't have to have but it goes by state regulation
@@TERRORoftheLORD not trying to seem rude man i don't know where you are at but I know for a fact with missouri I've been in plenty of scale houses it doesn't matter s long as you are within legal length and tire and axle ratings 26001 is only related by the fmcsa for commerce and certain states Kansas requires a class b i believe if have again but alot of states don't require it
I drive truck like 28 ft less than 26,000 pounds for business. Nevertheless do I need a CDL. I been working under the supervision of FedEx and Amazon as a Independent Contractor and looking to buy and operate my own truck.
I was told by DOT if your truck and trailer is capable of carrying 26000 pounds, you need a CDL tandem axle trailer
awesome video. quick question? i have a f350 with a Gvwr of 13000 with a class B cdl, what trailer should i get and what the weight limit with a Class B CDL? thank you
Class B is limited to 10K gross trailer weight.
9999lbs
They need to move to 30000 not 26000
But its okay to drive a 30ft camper attached to a 30ft trailer attached to a vehicle being towed. Thats okay no cdl required nothing to see here.
I don't know what state you're in but in my state If the truck and trailer do not weigh over 26000 pounds you don't need A CDL Only if the truck and trailer weigh More than 26000 pounds You need one Your GVWR just says what the trailer is able to be rated to haul You can pull that trailer all day long without A CDL And as long as you don't load it over the 26000 pound limit You're You should really adjust your videos Because people that are in my state might watch this and if they don't know Any better they might miss out on a trailer because they don't want to get A CD L
Goose neck get you pull over all the time Bumper pull only ,
GREAT video
Not entirely true....
He stated everything correctly. There is more to it. Can't be over weight on your tires, axles, or registration. But everything is true.
I think it was mostly all true, just stated in the most confusing ways he could put it
good quality video
Just get a class B. For that little setup. Or a class A for a real setup
He would need a Class A and class B would not help, the Class B is for a trailer GVWR upto 10000 once you go over 10001+ lbs you need a class A
A class B would make no difference for that setup
A B class CDL is for a single vehicle like a box truck over 26,000 lbs gvwr, and any truck/trailer combination at that weight requires an A class CDL. A D class CDL with a physical will cover a gvwr over 10,000 lbs and up to 26,000 lbs with a truck/trailer or a box truck.
Sooo many comments/ questions wasted on "do I need CDL for a trailer over 10k".... YES
BUT, what about say a 19k truck and a 10k trailer, while towing only 1 toothpick?
(both empty, probably only at 11k)
Are you saying I can drive my 19k truck, without the trailer hooked up? Even if im wellllll below 26k ?
Old thread I realize. But if the truck has a DOT number u need a dot medical card only. The trailers are what make these trucks class a
I got my CDL easily and I can recommend y'all to 👇👇
From where texas workforce?
GCWR=CDL
That truck is more than 14k GVWR on a gooseneck hitch!
You don't know what GVWR means
🛻🛻⁉️ *Question: So you’re saying I need a CDL license just to drive a truck and trailer that’s over 26,001 pounds even if I’m NOT involved in commercial activity? Like if I’m taking a boat to the lake?*
This guy looks like if you order post malone off wish.com
Wow this was just all to sell stuff. I’m surprised you guys didn’t try selling the truck or your own body parts. I literally didn’t get a single piece of new information except to buy an over priced trailer. As long as you don’t pass the trailers weight you’d be fine. Basically with my fifth wheel toy hauler and 14k heavy equipment gooseneck trailer with a loaded 350 DWR I’m fine. I wouldn’t go into hardcore states like Jersey or Cali with them but I know for a fact that I’m not getting pulled over. I’d get the CDL from a reputable place when I need it but not because of scare tactics. Even the guys that have them still do stupid things. As long as your not planning on going to setup shop doing heavy loads you’d be fine. Just do the math and don’t listen to clowns like this that can’t even get their sound bites working right.
He says the truck has a GVWR of 14k which isn’t fully true. The trailer has a GVWR of 30k so therefore he’s over the 26k which isn’t true the law dictates if you have a GVWR of less than 26k not GCVWR which is Gross Combine Weight Rating not GVWR you don’t need a CDL. So this video is misleading. You’d need the CDL for the trailer because it’s a big trailer by big it’s a 30k GVWR trailer for hauling commercially not because GCVWR. So if it was smaller like under the 26k you’d be fine but yes you’d not want to load up the truck. So if he says GVWR than that’s fine but he confuses GVWR and GCVWR. But having said that in Cali they make you get the CDL if the trailer is more than 10k but that’s because they want the money for it on taxes and they want to make sure your not going to wreck out on the mountains. But having said that this video is misleading you don’t look at the GVWR and call it a GCVWR that’s why everyone is confused.
now answer the question
WHAT TO DO WITH A TRAILER WITH NO TITLE
I live in a state with no title for under 4,000lb empty trailer weight. I have a "homebuilt" tri-axle trailer that weighs 2840lbs and has no weight sticker. In this case it reverts to registered weight.
@@TERRORoftheLORD , I'd like to see a triple axle trailer that ACTUALLY weighs less than 3000 lbs.
Please post a picture!
@@haroldphipps3457 Not sure how to do that but I had to unhitch the trailer from the truck and weigh it on a certified scale. So 2840 is with the large ramps attached. It is a tube steel trailer with triple torsion axles and a steel deck and fenders. The deck is only 13'6" long. It sits balanced when disconnected from the truck and needs no jack with the ramps on.
@@TERRORoftheLORD ok, homebuilt.. does ya even have brakes on that trailer ?
@@maximumwoof8662 Homebuilt is a designation. My trailer is an incredibly well built factory trailer that has torsion axles, 6 brakes, and is fully galvanized including the wheels. Anything not factory tagged with a vin plate is Homemade here.
Super annoying to hear people repeatedly say “twenty six thousand and one pounds” over and over, while holding up their index finger..😆🙄 Not to mention, it makes you incorrect. You state, “hauling OVER twenty six thousand and one pounds, absolutely need CDL.” This would technically imply that hauling EXACTLY 26,001 lbs would not need CDL, which would be dead wrong.
A person just makes themselves sound silly saying it that way. Totally unnecessary also. The legal threshold is either up to 26,000 or over 26,000. Therefore, it’s pretty unnecessary to repeatedly say “twenty six thousand and one pounds…” Or the even sillier variant, “twenty six thousand and one pounds or above..” A person sounds like a child when they express it like that. What’s next? “Twenty six thousand and one and two and three and four..”🤦♂️
Just say it like an adult. “Anything over twenty six thousand pounds falls under the CDL category. Twenty six thousand pounds or less does not.” There. Concise, correct, and mature sounding.👍
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