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We had a hard landing in the Capella airplane. not a crash but a hard landing. Keep your airspeed up.
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Glad you are both safe! As a retired airline Captain, former Fighter Pilot, and GA pilot I have to say I am conflicted by what I see in the ”Flying Cowboy” TH-cam aviation movement. I have to admit it is entertaining and peaks the interest of many younger kids in aviation BUT it also seems to embrace a kind of casual and X-Games culture ., it kinda conflicts with the disciplined safety oriented culture I experienced in my flying career. I don’t want to be a party-pooper but I think when the close calls start to pile up it is time to step back and question if reward is worth the risk. If the answer is yes that go for it. If not maybe it time to adjust the culture. My experience is that at some point the FAA will feel forced to get involved as crashes get thousands of TH-cam views. Either way I will be watching your videos.
Yea, I don’t get the concept of tearing up a 10,000$ prop just to land on a pebble sand bar in a canyon. Soon as you give it the gas to take off your sucking up the worst thing in the world into your plane like a vacuum cleaner, rocks off the ground. There’s no aileron control either during this STOL craziness which means the plane isn’t flying so you wonder why insurance companies are raising rates into the stratosphere, it’s because of these guys, they “deliberately” go into the danger zone so it’s not an accident Its deliberate. The guys with the most crashes are causing the industry to dry up and disappear.
Russ, I'm an active airline pilot myself who started out as a flight instructor in beautiful Florida, so I do have a bit of experience in small GA types. What's been baffling me for all those years is the TOTAL ignorance of the stabilized approach concept in this bush flying environment. That is hammered into every airline pilot right from ground school day one, and yes, an airliner needs a little more landing distance than a Kitfox or Capella, but stabilizing an approach at a certain minimum height is not only about landing distance as this incident has clearly shown. It's also about flying the flare within a certain g-load range and not stalling into the ground because a high rate of descent on very short final. Such a "slam - dunk" approach requires a lot more pull back on the controls to initiate the flare, thereby increasing the angle of attack beyond acceptable limits for this phase of flight.
Another maneuvre where my hair stands on end is when the guys fly a very short approach, rolling out of their turn to final just before touchdown. The main reason for approach to landing accidents in GA is the spin induced by crossed controls in the turn from base to final, when the pilot realizes that he/she will be overshooting the final. The common reaction is to push the rudder to tighten the turn and counteracting the induced roll with opposite aileron - voila - the main ingredients for a snap roll a few feet above the ground!
And last but not least, what are you guys thinking when you fly low level through canyons whithout any suitable landing sites in case of an engine failure? That may be ok in a hopelessly overpowered multi engine jet fighter in a MOA, but do you really think that you're going to walk away from a emergency engine out landing in a canyon strewn with rocks the size of your airplane? Think again, and listen to those older and more experienced pilots. There are many good reasons why the FARs have been established, but I get the impression that those subscription numbers are way more important these days than rules and regulations. After all, the sponsors need the masses, right?
But Russ we come here to see his near misses, while trying to understand when he will begin to understand the risks he puts himself and others in while show dogging. This will end badly, it isn't if it will end badly but when which is unfortunate.
@@Alex-tw7wh I agree. After my flying assignment the F4 I was assigned with many similar experienced pilots from fighters to fly the OV-10 Bronco. Some of the guys treated it like a toy and in three years in Germany our squadron lost two airplanes and three pilots. Since I had a GA background before the Air Force I knew that a light plane could kill you. Unfortunately some learn the hard way. I generally have a fairly laissez faire attitude about the risks people take in life if it only affects themselves. Unfortunately taking risks and failing in such a public way can only lead to more oversight by the FAA and regulation and restrictions that will encumber not only the risk takers but all pilots.Like most regulations that replace prudent judgement, responsible majority suffer because of the irresponsible few.
@@Alex-tw7wh I read an article about stall factors, and it described the fact that cross controls are not necessary to cause the stall, however a skid is a partial cause, with the ailerons positioned in the bank correctly, but the wing still stalls at the root from the prop upwash on the root of the wing in the banked attitude. Obviously, the airspeed has to be slow, but not that slow for the stall to occur, and may be the result of pulsing the power up at exactly the wrong time creating more upwash on the root of the wing. As the wing begins to bank, the angle of attack is at a high angle on the outward portion of the wing and the added prop wash destabilizes the root and it stalls as well, causing the snap roll to begin. If there is any skid at all, the turbulence of the cowl adds to the conditions which perpetuates the roll, which was my idea added to that described. I think it may been Charlie Precourt’s article. I’m only an AGI & IGI, but have gone thru the spin and stall trimming with Bruce Williams at in Seattle. I’ve had a 172 (180 hp) snap roll in a power on stall into an incipient spin at two different times, and it scared the living daylights out of me (other words used I my head!). Fortunately, it was after my spin training and with plenty of altitude. I remember looking at the turn coordinator and the ball was to the right in the climb right at the point it began and the plane spun to the right both times and the rudder was centered with the nose very high. So, was it the left turning prop and the slow airspeed making the plane rotate to the right countering the prop with the nose very high? That was my impression as the lift and airspeed was going away fast like in a hammerhead, so I presumed the attitude was tipping right, not in a skid. 😕
I'm a CFI, so maybe this is worth something. I've watched a lot of your videos, and although watching a video is certainly not the same thing as being in the cockpit with you, I'll put it this way: You are not a bad pilot. But you keep making bad decisions. The problem with making bad decisions is that 99 out of 100, they end up OK because we correct for them. Please understand -- when I say "bad" it's because there could be other choices, but you seem to make choices that I just keep scratching my head about. These choices are small things, but that one small thing will get you at some point. Don't give up, don't let people tell you that you suck at this, or whatever, but do make a full reevaluation of your processes for your decisions! Every time you think, "I'll just...." STOP yourself, and do it by the book instead. This is a totally normal thing that a good pilot will do. The best pilots will reevaluate every single flight, and every aspect of that flight. Think of how the landing evaluations go for a Naval Aviator -- they are brutal on their own self-evaluation and reflection after every single attempt. They get peers involved, they get superior officers, inferior officers, and everyone in-between into the process. You have to change your process, your decision making, or this will happen again. Go have fun. Do goofy stuff. But always do it by the book. You can bend the rules of typical aviation, like you and Trent and others do. But you can't bend the laws of physics. In this case (based on your own words) there's a high probability that that's exactly what you did, and physics bit you in the ass.
As someone hoping to get my license over the next year or so, i'm wondering if you would elaborate on some of the key bad decisions you've seen him make so I can take note :) I'm wondering if he can improve his safety game, at least in some ways, without significantly compromising on the "fun factor"... Or if he needs a complete overhaul on his flying style to meaningfully improve his safety game.
Waterskiing and such is clearly pretty dangerous (and I'm not interested), but are there other things that are more subtle to the uninitiated?
@@ahlgrenator I mean... he says it in this video -- landing with a tailwind. Did that cause the accident? Probably not. But it's little things like this. The little things add up fast when the weather turns, or the traffic gets heavy, or something just isn't right with the engine. I just want him to be careful and not contribute to the little things willfully.
These are wise words from @Ben Bailey. They apply to your paragliding too. Fly safe, stay alive, and keep making videos. I'm a new subscriber, but I like what I've seen so far. Watch your own videos. You can learn from the play-by-play video. Blue Skies & Fly in Peace (>*
As a Pilot A strongly agree with your words.
@@ahlgrenator He said "at some point you stop looking at the airspeed and fly the airplane", then 2 seconds talked about how it stalled and he should have looked at the airspeed. It still hasn't clicked with him yet. Go watch his other videos, he takes huge risks
Thats crazy. Literally like 3 or 4 videos ago everybody was telling you to chill out. Really glad you guys are still alive. Super sketchy man.
I once misread the wind sock at an airport, and entered the pattern backwards, landing with a significant tail wind. I could tell something wasn't right when I started the flare, and noticed that the ground was moving way too fast. I touched down, and heard the wheels spin up at a higher pitch than I ever heard before. Thankfully the landing gear didn't collapse. Running out of runway fast, I decided to execute a go-round, and gave it full throttle. I cleared the airport fence, and the roof of the house across the street by about 10 feet. If I had waited 1 second longer to go around, I would have clipped the fence and landed in their living room. As I climbed out, I noticed a King Air off to my right on a left hand pattern base, so I turned left away from his final track and kept climbing out. I flew on to my next waypoint (I was on a round robin flight, and only needed a touch-and-go at that airport), and let the adrenaline level drop back down to normal levels during the cruise (hands were shaking after that one). I never read a wind sock wrong ever again.
I made the same mistake on a busy day at a crowded drop zone when I was a relatively new skydiver. Probably ~50 jumps under my belt, I either read the sock wrong, or just didn't. Last one on the plane, first one in the pattern - I notice everyone else is stacking up for an opposite pattern from me. My downwind leg isn't covering nearly enough ground. Turn onto base and can actually feel the now-crosswind and realize for the first time why everything is "off." Turn onto final and just start SCREAMING over the ground. I set myself up perfectly to land precisely in a drainage ditch that draws the back border of the field. Fortunately the next field is clear, so I was able to flare over the ditch and land in the next field. I figure I was probably near 30mph as I hit the ground. You could count the stitches on the seams of my jumpsuit where they were stamped into my legs and arms for about two weeks. As you said; I've never read a wind sock wrong ever again.
Sometimes a mistake is the best educator. Jonas, glad you two came out ok, that's all that matters at the end of the day. It's a hard way to reinforce knowledge, but it could've easily been worse!
Hi you 2 greets from Germany and happy to see you doing good. Followed you on some videos and found that the capellas landing behavior is clearly differ to the Kitfox. She is a bit more „nasty“ and unforgiving near stol. Can you agree?
Further“Rippen und holmbruch“ as we say here
That’s insane cave painter
@@imtrashbmx8834 Agreed. I get the willies every time I think about it.
Happened to me also. But not having a wind sock is not good. Even if there is a wind sock and it is not extended, it doesn't mean there is no wind. So always think there is some wind . It is enough to keep the plane afloat to keep you from touching at the beginning of the runway. You will stay afloat and eventually run out of runway and hopefully you will have enough power to resume flying to recover. At an uncontrolled strip in west Texas, and flying a Piper Comanche, me and three souls. two other pilots and a passenger in the plane, and about 40 gals of fuel, I came in with the wind behind me only one time and it taught me a lesson. The wind sock was not extended yet is was pointing into the wind. So I felt there must not be any wind to deal with, but I was wrong. I ran out of safe landing distance and had to throttle up. Barely missing a fence at the end of the runway. I have commercial single engine land rating, which really doesn't mean anything. Experience means everything. Seems like every time I went flying I learned something.
Dude, you're the luckiest guy in the world. Not because of the incident, but because of Silvia. She is such a sweetheart. Count your lucky stars with her. Blessings to you both. Love your channel. Can't wait until you get back in the air.
Prime thing to remember: NEVER run out of airspeed, altitude, and ideas at the same time!!! Glad you guys are OK!
last being the most important.
Never run out of cheap Windsocks for a marginal 1000' strip.
The last few videos had me thinking that Jonas was on the way to becoming a "bold pilot." Maybe a nice piece of humble pie is just what was needed to increase the chances of becoming an "old pilot."
As I read through the comments, I see that you’re taking a lot of heat for your marginal decisions and I have to take the side of the others that are questioning your ability to be a safe aviator. I don’t doubt that you are a competent pilot with tons of confidence but over confidence has killed many good pilots. I hope that this “hard landing “ has gotten your full attention and you take the time to re-evaluate your approach to aviation. Best of luck! I’ve enjoyed following your channel.
Well this sucks. I am concerned for all of the flying Cowboys. Let’s add this up with no names.
1) wreck from high crosswinds on takeoff. Plane destroyed.
2) stall crash with serious injuries. Plane destroyed.
3) fuel selector switch on take off from a riverbank in wrong position. Fuels out and flips unto the nose and prop in the water.
4) vapor lock on take off, again taking off a riverbank with same results ( up onto the nose and prop.)
5) flooded field landing
6) broken rudder pedal upon landing. (Could have been the worst crash of them all if happened in flight)
7) wing stall on landing with improper air speed.
Did I forget any?
All this in just over a years time or so?
Too many preventable accidents here Cowboys. I say this because I care. Your presence on YT is one with strength but you are setting a bad example to the young and upcoming future pilots. I admire that you take claim of your faults but guys, all of us out here love you all and eventually one or more of you will reach a point where your luck will run out. It almost happened to one of you who, many months later is still recovering and has more metal in his body than what was in his plane.
Dial it back a bit. We will still enjoy your vlogs. Do thorough preflight’s. Given what you do in STOL flying, check those vital parts such as rudder systems. In fact check everything two times, three times more than the average pilot. Replace your tires with rubber, NOT duct tape. And so on. We care. We really do care. We also care about GA and these preventable issues do no good for the flying community in the short or long run.
Peace to you all.
True. All but the broken rudder paddle which fairly easy to deal with also in flight.
I understand that your sentiment is coming from the right place. However, everyone has their own risk tolerance regarding any activity they partake in. Clearly some people should stick to airliners that takeoff on 7000 feet runways.
This is not unique to aviation. Some people are not willing to risk riding a Harley-Davidson on the street in a helmet and full leather, those people will stick with cars and use them for basic transportation. Other people compete in motocross racing, or even free-style x-sports events. I would rather land an airplane from 50 feet and 50 knots than a motorcycle any day!
@@clarkstonguy1065 Generally speaking, I agree with you. I'm a "as long as what you're doing doesn't affect me, I don't care" kind of guy. I think people should generally be able to live their lives as they want without bitching from fellow citizens and especially the government. This is different - I could be affected by these dudes' bad judgment. I could be cruising through FL170 and a here comes a fucking hypoxic Jonas flying his held together by baling wire and duct tape airplane and crashes into me. Hundreds of people could be dead. Hell, I could be sitting in my living room watching TH-cam when a dude whose seat pan right above the rudder controls is being held up with ZIP TIES!! loses control of his plane and comes crashing down on my head. I could be out for a hike when I see one of these guys go down and I have to go over to see their mangled body with intestines popped out everywhere and a flat face leaving me with those fucked up images for life. So, no, this isn't the same as X-sports or other high-risk activities where the only person who could die is the daredevil at the wheel.
noema you are probably right. I believe that Trent is the most reserved of all of them however, what they put these STOL planes through it would probably be best to inspect items not usually associated with a basic pre-flight. I was thinking that if the peddle got jammed, it would make for a very interesting landing.
tristanbrotherton you are entitled to your opinion.
I built a Kitfox IV-1200 in the 'nineties and flew it in the Appalachians for ten years. Wonderful machine. Because of liability concerns, donated it to a museum rather than selling it to an individual. Now my cousin wants it badly, and we are negotiating to get it back, so we watch all your videos. Also, since it's Easter, I wanted to share with you a little-known psalm: Maintain thy airspeed, lest the ground rise up and smite thee.
Such a pleasure to watch the two of you; makes me wish I were starting all over again. Take it from someone who did not; put everything you can into your marriage. Nothing you do will remotely approach the rewards of a happy life together. All best.
Jonas I wanted to beat you up in the comments but I won't because the most important thing is you and Silvia are safe.
Yes, the most important thing, Silvia and you are safe!
Hate your plane is damaged BUT YOU TWO ARE OK, thats all that matters.
Thats right! Plane can be fixed and all that stuff, but they are okay ^^
Oh man! That sucks so bad. I’m so so sorry. Your lady looks skeptical. Do not lose her trust.
Get it together my man, you are an exceptional pilot. Build in much bigger margins, don’t drop your guard. We all want to see your adventures for decades to come.
It's time to analyze your aeronautical decision making. You've been lucky thus far. I'd hate to see that luck run out. In over 5,000 hours of flying everything from taildraggers to wide body jets, I've never bent an airplane. That comes down to a cautious approach and constant self-analysis. Now, that isn't to say I haven't done dumb stuff in airplanes. I certainly have. But those experiences helped me see the errors I made and correct them before they turned into an accident. It's time to eat some humble pie, dust yourself off and come back a better, smarter, safer pilot. You're clearly smart enough to get there.
Jonas, read this again and again because it's really good advice. If you go back over your recent videos, I think you'll see a series of events that led up to this accident. I truly enjoy your videos; I look forward to many more; and I hope you don't mind my humble two cents.
This is a real bummer. That said, I'm surprised that none of Jonas' water-skiing-plane buddies has taken one scuba diving yet. (Right, Trent 'n crew? We love y'all and fear for each and every one of you.) Time for a super-STOL wing on that bird, boy. Oh, and maybe some new, duct-tape-free tires, eh? Glad you 3 are mostly alright.
I’ll be the big meanie, and add the word “yet” to the sentence “I haven’t bent a plane”.
@@colinwallace5286 pride cometh before a big fall should be taken literally as a pilot 😐😁
@@armandhammer7642 It’s like driving... I have well over 3.5 million safe miles... there’s just a few hundred feet I’d sure like a “do-over” on. If you’re lucky, nobody else pays for a bad decision, or a series of them, but rest assured everyone gets a chance to see how the dice fall eventually. Perhaps Jonas and others seem less noble than the 5000 hour “I’ve never bent a plane” guy, but if you’re dead, the reasons why you do something risky don’t matter much, all in all. Is the ag applicator less irresponsible to go under a power line to get a good pass on the farmer’s field than Cory Robin is to do the same to access a landing spot at a friend’s place? Don’t know. Either one could go wrong exactly the same.
Im not a pilot, but a mechanic of 34 years, fixed lots of wrecked planes, yep, it happens! But you seemed a lot better in the kitfox, and that capella has not seem stable from day one, I never did understand you getting rid of that fox, maybe the capella should rest in peace and get yourself another fox.
100% agree
Also 100% agree. That Capella is no Fox. Dump it and move on.
Agreed!!
Agree for how he flies the Fox was a much better plane....more forgiving of this stuff.
Alright so Silvia is flying from now on right? Because her record is better then yours :)
@Robert Inge Someone tweeted that Jonas had doughnuts and coffee
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I watch about a dozen aviation channels and you are the only person I worry about when I watch you fly. That being said, I understand that you dramatize the videos a bit and I get that this is a "fun and adventure" channel. This could have gone much worse, as you already know and I am glad you two are OK. Keep the shiny side up and the airspeed alive! Looking forward to watching the rebuild.
My question for you:
You mention in previous videos how much less forgiving the Capella is. What makes it less forgiving and have you had to change your flying habits to account for that?
Hey Ace, could you share some of the other aviation channels you follow? I also follow Mike Patey and Trent Palmer. Thanks!
@@BuckBreaker Premier 1 Driver and FlightChops are two excellent channels.
@@joelbosshoss9029 Thanks dude.
Been expecting this video. Best learning curves are where no one gets injured. Really pleased you are both safe.
The one part I find really odd about this description is how he only talks about applying full throttle to escape the impending stall. The first and instinctual move should be to push the stick forward to deload the wings. No matter how close to the ground you are, a stall is worse.
100% correct but counterintuitive and Jonas is an intuitive flyer..
You're correct. Another way of saying it: decrease your angle of attack *immediately*. Adding power is secondary to pushing that nose down. Jonas, you need a windsock, a stall warning horn, and a major adjustment to your priorities about safety.
There have been quite a few videos elsewhere talking about that. “Instinctual” sounds good on the ground, usually goes sideways in the air, by the looks of how many accidents like this there are. I suppose you need to expect a possible mishap or malfunction, and have a reaction cued up, rather than assume you won’t have any issues, and be forced to ramp up something on the fly.
@@colinwallace5286 Punch in the throttle and trying to level the wing is what saved Then that is exactly what you’re supposed to do in a stall
@@stickitupyourasteric I disagree, he’s not intuitive enough and takes too many unnecessary risks. Basic aerobatics will teach you about loading and unloading an airplane. Do enough of it in a low powered airplane and you’ll learn to finesse the energy management.
Jonas, from now on, every time you do a preflight, take a long good look into Sylvija’s eyes regardless if she is with you or not, and vow to never do anything in that airplane that would hurt her in any way. You owe it to her.
Obviously she’s with him for a reason, definitely down for the ride type of girl.
Although I’m not a pilot .. it’s very admirable that you .. as well as Patey... share your experience.. admit you did something wrong ... and use it to learn to make yourself better !! Sorry about your airplane !! Glad y’all are ok...keep the videos coming !! And relax.. it’s just a little bump in the road right ? Take care
This is the most dumbest shit I read here. This guy is obviously dangerous, 2 crashes in 1 year. He is going to kill himself eventually by his bold moves in GA.
1) wreck from high crosswinds on takeoff. Plane destroyed.
2) stall crash with serious injuries. Plane destroyed.
3) fuel selector switch on take off from a riverbank in wrong position. Fuels out and flips unto the nose and prop in the water.
4) vapor lock on take off, again taking off a riverbank with same results ( up onto the nose and prop.)
5) flooded field landing
6) broken rudder pedal upon landing. (Could have been the worst crash of them all if happened in flight)
7) wing stall on landing with improper air speed.
Did I forget any?
All this in just over a years time or so?
This guy is dangerous, should just give the licence back.
You were riding in your bubble, had gotten complacent and were an accident waiting to happen. Glad you and Silvia are ok, but it was a predictable outcome.
Nanh, his brain just thought he was in the fox ... Brain Fart! A problem with flying more than just one, IMHO ...
Okay, glad you are both safe. You don't just need a new prop and gear. The engine was shocked. It needs a strip down, crankshaft checked, engine mounts checked. Just like the one you flipped on the sandbar should have had. This is BASIC. How many crashes and incidents have you had in two years? Sylvia does not appreciate the risks you are exposing her to. Read some aviation books, get a good instructor and try and learn from people who have been around aviation for a long time. You won't always be this lucky and you are setting a very bad example to people who also don't know any better. This was not an isolated incident, stop being reckless.
lol calm down my dude
Rotax with a slipper clutch doesn't care about a prop strike. Get with the times bud. This is no old lead fuel direct drive lyc or conti here
@@srnunan4783 Good enough to bet your life on? I'd definitely check that with the manufacturer. Slipper clutches are great for minimizing severe damage, but nothing is instantaneous. A tiny crack now could easily turn into a catastrophic failure as the hours start to build.
@@Mrfishlou single engine planes 'any of them' can have an engine failure leaving you gliding at any time.
If you fly without a ballistic chute or multi engine(especially uncertified, experimental ultralight etc) over an area where you can't land safely, then you are "betting your life on it" as you say.
The most common cause of engine failure is not enough fuel getting to the engine, a full rebuild every other week still won't fix that.!
@@srnunan4783 very true
Been on vacation, and just now seeing this. Lots of comments and good advise. You know they are all right on when it comes to hammering you, and this will be a wake-up. Glad you and Silvija are okay to fly another day!
Spot-on with Airspeed on approach. It was bashed into me as I was learning and it saved my life later when I had to “land” on a Pine Forest after an engine failure. “Might” (?) have made a clearing a bit ahead but didn’t take the risk of stalling into the trees - so I walked away after a controlled “landing” in the tree tops. Brought mine home on a trailer as well - eventually. Glad you’re both fine and the rebuild / repair doesn’t look that bad - good luck with it.
This was a bummer :/ Thanks for the support! Let us know what questions you have for the next video. We will do our best to answer them.
Jonas Marcinko she’ll fly again. Just glad you’re ok.
First question: did that “life flash before your eyes” thing happen?
Do either of you have jitters about getting in the air?
Did the plane roll or was it just a hit and slide?
Question: are you making enough money to live off of youtube, or are you looking for other sources of income?
I have been concerned since you started flying the Capella full time and described its handling before touchdown. It didn’t seem like a very forgiving ship. I am so glad both of you are ok. Good lessons for all.
Yah it seems like the wings on it just completely quit flying all of a sudden at stall, wonder if VGs wouldn't help.
Or leading edge slats too, like the Just SS and others have, but would be some more work to install.
77leelg yes, when he first started flying the Capella he was stalling it in, trying to fly it like a Kitfox wing. This Capella doesn’t have the same slow speed characteristics as that Kitfox.
It must have a different profile on the wings compared to the Kitfox, of course the Fox has flaparons too which probably helps as well.
Instead of buying a stall warning horn you spent the money on fiberglass skis.
I just found this channel a few weeks ago and this is only the second video of yours that I've watched. In BOTH videos you are trying to explain to the audience why you messed up and why you are a actually a safe pilot and flying safety is very important to you. But all I've seen so far is you putting your own life and others in danger. As many comments have said, I respect your channel but I think you are a better videographer than a pilot. Hard love man. You have to check in with yourself.
This is Dave Beggins N573T. I fly out of Rigby and I dropped by Black Foot one day to meet you guys. Saturday morning I was flying out of Rigby towards the reservoir and windmills and the air was smooth as silk and suddenly the air became so violent that I am immediately did a 180 and headed back to the airport. When I took off 10 minutes before Rigby airport windsock was dead when I came back the wind was switching directions in a 360° motion. I decided I would try runway 1 the wind was mostly from the north and my landing was the craziest almost out-of-control feel I’ve ever had. I was really sorry to hear about your accident this morning but my wife and me are very grateful that you two are fine and I think we all learned a little lesson. Thanks for sharing!
Man that sucks!! Glad y’all are ok, that is the most important thing!!
And yes, Ship Happens!
The words of my flight instructor still ring in my ears. “Maintain thy airspeed lest, the ground rise up an smite thee”. Glad you’re OK.
First Draco while taking off and now this while landing. The ground, apparently, is unforgiving.
remember "Airspeed is Life" glad to see you both are ok and u both walked away as the saying goes "any landing u can walk away from is a good landing"
Just missed the part about any landing you can reuse the airplane is a great landing...
@@russellsmith3825 nope he did not miss it. its not needed in this case because jonas knows that. he and silvia walked away with whati can see only a bit of a scare and maybe a sore bum. but i would say he would have loved to have had a great landing. but who cares they are healty and thats all that matters
Several Comments: 1) Glad your both okay, 2) Jonas your soo lucky to have a supportive wife, 3) Your honesty will pay dividends in the long run, 4) I've crashed twice, stalled my right wing on landing due to inadequate crosswind training and hit a tree on take off due to my stupidity. There's a lot of very good advice offered here about you're cutting things a bit too close. Please heed the advice. One or two same comments may not be worth considering but when there's over a dozen, there's definitely something needing to be changed. Please take the advice seriously!
You both walked away from an airplane crash! That's what's important. And yes, we will keep watching your videos while the plane is down. In fact, I'm looking forward to watching you fix it. You should bring us inside the hanger for the repairs. I would thoroughly enjoy watching that. Yes, Jonas is a good pilot! Glad you're both safe!
I farm a little, but fly helicopters for a living and airplanes for fun.... I've had my share of emergencies. At this point in my life, I just want to retire without burning a hole in the ground somewhere. I've been in a plane crash (quick flight), a burning helicopter (electrical fire), High altitude hoist work with engine malfunctions, acute vibrations with forced precautionary landing... and also shot at (more than once). It's important to know where the limits are for your aircraft and yourself. In farm terms, I call it "knowing where the fences are." I'll often take new pilots out to the fences to show them what they look and feel like. It's great to know where they are and just what your aircraft can do, but my advice to every new pilot... don't live day to day riding those fences. At some point, luck runs out and the fence, for whatever reason, has moved and you're now on the wrong side of it. Temperature, Pressure Altitude, Wind, Weight, Weather, Maintenance, etc... Any one of these variables can move the fence. Be deliberate in your planning. Fly conservative and rehearse in your head what your actions will be during an emergency. The amount of people around me in my circle that I have lost is unimaginable. Some no fault of their own, but pilot error was the most. As pilots, we do a great job of killing ourselves. Aviation is one of the most unforgiving things you can do. You are lucky. Most people only get one shot. Be safe my friend. Look out for those fences.
I hope you're planning on getting the engine overhauled or inspected internally
Nah it’s good all he needs is a new prop and landing gear “good thing he didn’t already replace the gear because now insurance can conveniently replace it”
The prop isn't on the crank shaft and the prop strike is absorbed by the slipper clutch. No inspection/overhaul needed. Just another advantage of flying rotax over the post war technology of an "aeroplane engine"
Scott Nunan you’re telling me you wouldn’t tear that down and check just to make sure? Or did that go over my head.
@@BaxterretxaB Nope, the prop is not bolted to the crankshaft so in a prop strike there are no side loads like an aeroplane engine and there is a slipper clutch to prevent any excessive shock rotational forces being applied to the crankshaft.
The normal damage risks associated with prop strikes in a lyc or conti simply don't apply on a rotax so why would you rebuild an engine with a reduction drive and a slipper clutch just because that's what people do on direct drive engines? It would be like saying that you should always do a mag check even when flying a turbine.
@@srnunan4783 , actually it’s prewar technology.
Had a nose gear failure on landing on a bonanza, 90hrs after engine overhaul, at idle, one blade hit the ground once, the other twice, barely curled the tips, prop was not rebuildable!!! 16,000.00 latter the engine was fine only one gear was cracked in the accesssary section. Saw a P-51 I used to work on, get a little to high on the main once, damage to the prop blades was cleaned up with a file, inspection of the gearbox saw three of the four bearings damaged, GET THE ENGINE AND BOX INSPECTED!!!
and not just a visual inspection - prop shaft, crank, etc. should all be inspected using appropriate techniques, whether it be mag particle, UT, or even just dye penetrant, etc. If the prop strike has caused even a small crack, it will propagate with continued use. Find out from the engine's manufacturer what needs to be done to ensure no hidden damage, and DO IT.
you two are helping all of us pilots….thank you
You're both and alive! That's the main thing above all else, your alive and unharmed! As we grow and learn, over confidence is the caution. Lessons learned and just move on. Keep on truckin'. Still love your videos.
QUESTION: From your first flights with the Capella it seemed to fall through on the round out? You think this had anything to do with that? Its just never looked easy to land..
Marcus Nouwens bingo!
It didn't look Cub or long wing Kitfox slow .. pretty sure its a heavier wing loaded plane pressed in to service for dirt flying ...Website states wing is 114 sq ft ... not at all in bush plane lbs per sq ft territory.... Cubs and long wing Kitfox's have what 180 sq ft ... My Murphy Rebel has 150
I noticed this from day one, it seems to have a higher stall speed and seemed to have a tip stall tendency on landing. It just seemed to be a bit touchy akin to landing a high performance aircraft.
Mark Doan wow that seems significant. Especially when pushing oneself into little contests with your buddies like short landings etc.
@@markdoan1472 Good point. I didn't realize there was that much difference in wing area. I don't think that this would have happened in the Kitfox. It always appeared more docile and predictable in the flare.
Been wondering/dreading for a while when the thumbnail of the crashed Capella would appear!
Very relieved to see you're both alive and well.
Love your channel Jonas! So sorry to see all the haters coming out of their glass houses! I didn’t realize there were so many self proclaimed aviation experts out in TH-cam land🤣! I guess that saying is true about Opinions and Asshole, everybody has one! Shake them off and keep flying! 🤙
As one of my uncles once told me, stupidity hurts and is often expensive....or was it the other way around ...anyway that was a GOOD landing! Anything that doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I'll still be watching!
Glad you guys are OK, and your humility and desire to learn/educate from this experience should be a role model to all. Looking forward to watching the repair process!
"We almost landed..." Not many people get to say that, even fewer get to say it twice. Be careful you two.
that little aeroplane is a garden monument now...don't bother fixin' it...finish that other one you started .. where's the progress video's ? 🤠
glad u ok ...I know what not to do now ...thanks 😏
Thank you Lord for saving Jonas and Silvja! Well buddy, many people have given you a lot of input, so I'll leave it there. I know you feel embarrassed, sick inside, a bit scared, and hopefully very very blessed that you and Silvija are still alive, and not severely injured. You now have an unscheduled winter project. You're a natural pilot, but check out Aviation 101, this type of accident is what kills the majority of private pilots. It's just a good thing you were so low at the time of the stall. Looking forward to seeing you put her back together, and get back into the air.
Okay, glad everyone is safe and walking unaided.
Question 1: Given the dynamics of the Capella and the KitFox you probably regrettably sold; if you were in the KitFox would things have turned out differently?
Question 2: Is it true that the male members of Sylvia’s family are boarding a flight to the USA as we speak to come and kick your butt for putting their beautiful sister in harms way?
My wife and I are in our 70"s, have never flown (except RC slope gliders many years ago), but we watch every one of your videos and "share the cockpit" with you when you two fly. Accidents happen, but the best accidents are the ones you walk away from and we are so glad both of your are OK. We'll anxiously await the completion of your repairs so Donna and I can get back into the air with you! Steve
It's one thing to take risks while you are flying alone. But it's a huge jump when you do so with Silvija along! Be safe! Glad you are both ok!
Sketchiest pilot on TH-cam. Glad you are safe guys.
Trent Palmer: "Sketch".
Dude been there. The hit to the pride hurts more than anything. Luckily it looks like you have a supportive partner.
Very happy neither of you were hurt! When I watch your videos (as well as others), I can tell safety is always forefront when flying. I think it was a good idea to approach this video as you did. You hardly ever see videos such as yours when accidents occur. This puts the reality check in the box. Thanks for posting.
Vous n'etes pas blessés ! C'est le plus important ! Merci à vous 2 pour vos videos qui nous font rêver depuis la France ! 🇫🇷
Katabatic wind or not, wouldn’t the lack of responsiveness in your controls have alerted you to the impending stall?
That’s true in each phase of slow flight. Coming in around 50 and slower will always be sluggish on the controls.
Being sketch isnt a good thing
Glad you and Silvia are ok.............’My new BUSH plane goes swimming.....’ right around the 18 min mark, ‘this capella has such a weird thing it’ it drops out of the sky, you need to really rethink the wing and airfoil on that plane, it’s telling you it’s not a bush plane because it just stops flying at 50. Put a Kitfox or Highlander wing on it!
Go back to the Kitfox....better for his kind of flying.
A good lesson in humility. You and Silvia are safe. ❤️ Planes can be fixed or replaced, you two can’t. Good job, fly them to the ground they use to say in flight school.
I am a glider pilot. I always have 5 knots in hand going over the fence. Sometimes 10. And getting the rap from "experienced" pilots (and instructors). Well, I'd rather hit the fence on the far side of the field at 5 knots, than hitting the fence that I am trying to clear at 40 knots, or dropping a wing.
Yeah, the problem with flying the plane and taking your eye off the gauge during the landing is that you judge the speed based on visual reference, which is inevitably your groundspeed.
If you're moving upwind that's no problem as you'll land with extra airspeed, if you're landing downwind, your groundspeed makes you think you have more airspeed than you have and...
Smack!
Oh well. Lesson learned! You won't make that mistake again! Glad you're both safe!
Exactly. That is the key takeaway here.... the insidious danger of tailwind landings.
Not unusual nor unsafe to fly some airplanes by deck angle and wind noise and only occasionally look at the airspeed.
@@noema Yeah, we all do it from time to time, it just comes with particular dangers when flying downwind, namely the visual illusion of higher airspeed caused by the increased groundspeed, particularly at low altitude. Makes it very easy to get into stall territory.
Dear J & S, oh wow, very sad to see this vlog. But super relieved you guys not hurt n a-ok. So love watching your vlogs and you guys are simply awesome at what you do and what you share with us. Thank you and just keep on doing what you do :)
“And we actually didn’t have the video camera going” lmao, sure...
Everyone giving you some stick here Jonas, but you know you deserve it. I hope you can handle it seriously and learn well from these constructive comments. We ALL love your channel and glad you two are ok. 👍🇬🇧
LUCK lends till it runs itself out buddy.
Glad to hear you guys are safe.
My CFI immediately recommends alternative TH-cam content. Go figure
Honestly, it was only a matter of time. Especially flying an airplane made out of depression, bungie cords, and duct tape. I'm glad you're okay.
Remember: A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
What? It was not a mechanical issue dude...
@@dariusjurasius It was a combination of shite craftsmanship, and multiple hazardous attitudes my man's.
Jonas - remember Grandpa bought the tail dragger? When they got there to pick it up, He let the other pilot who came with him on the trip and was more experienced with this type of plane fly first with him and they crashed. The plane was totaled. He had just bought it and did t have insurance yet. :(
It was the pilots fault. He called me and said he would never fly again. His knees were raw from laying cement the previous two weeks. It had a chemical in it that he wasnt aware of and it ate right through his protective knee pads. They crawled out of that airplane and thankfully they were ok. He was still battling cancer, and could hardly walk from the cement chemical damage to his knees. He was about 78 at the time? Maybe. He called me and said they were goi g to haul it home on a trailer. And he never wanted to fly again. Everyday for a year that other pilot that wrecked the plane came over and helped dad rebuild. And guess what. He flew again. I guess bro g a marine taught him never to give up. So thankful you both are ok. You have a lot of grandpa in you. He’d be so proud of you both. As would be your momma. They are both watching over you. Stay steady. Keep your head. Learn from this and keep going. Also don’t keep ruminating about the mistake. Just think forward. I love you. aunt c
You're awesome Aunt C!
Thanks for the story and wise words. Love you Aunt Christie!
Nicely said, Christie!
Your nephew needs to learn the art of honest self-assessment and how to change. Just read the many Pilots who are very concerned and wrote to say this in their many constructive comments to the previous video about the crash landing. All of which were just ignored here.
I'm so glad you two are safe! I'll watch all the videos.
Dude, glad y’all are safe and sound! Appreciate your candid self reflection and sharing lessons learned.
Perhaps there is a windsock in your future since visual cues are good for groundspeed, but not necessarily airspeed?
Right! and UNknown tailwind! never assume... windsock takes away the question. Glad you guys are OK! - R
No windsocks on a 1,000' strip ! Well there's your problem right there. Would you just look at that, would you look at it. Oh wait can't look at it, not one there.
"didn't have the camera rolling"bet
uh huh, LOL.
As long as Silva is in the videos, we will keep watching.
The collective sigh at 6:15 says it all. Thanks for sharing even though it was tremendously difficult. Mad respect!
Thanks for sharing. The fact that you are telling this story is a WIN, we all learn from our mistakes.
Twice in less than a year. Something isn't working.
Karl Thistle, i made 2 mistakes driving a motorbike in a year so I stopped and haven't ridden since.😣🇬🇧😣
He is Harisson Ford son
Many pilots don't get to learn from their mistakes. Soak it in.
Don’t sweat it!
Look what happened to Mike Patey’s Draco. 🤷♂️
Mistakes happen. Thankfully you were both ok!!
Yes and in both cases the pilot had fail to respect the local wind conditions....
Draco 9x Capella.
Bonzo Gamer ..,Patey 9x Marcinko
@@rogerolander458 The Draco incident was much more than just respect for local conditions... that was someone going well past what they should have. This is just negligence in operating the aircraft. People stall everything from a 152 to a jet from lack of attention. I know check and training captains who had stall incidents with trainees from tunnel vision. It happens, usually corrected but if not this is the outcome.
I'm not a pilot, so I have no right to beat you up. But, when people tell me that "Ship Happens" my response is, "Yes, when you don't do your job". The difference between a youthful exuberance and experienced wisdom is..... experience. So live and learn. Most importantly, Silvija is OK. :-) We all make mistakes. After 27 years of boating, I messed up an easy docking recently. Very embarrassing for me. It's all part of becoming that old, wise pilot. Love the videos.
GLAD you are BOTH safe! Live and learn.
Google: Complacency
Hint: Its one of the most dangerous human flaws...
Resist at all costs...
Taco'd airplane in the background, but Jonas was "on top of his game"? lol
Tailwind landing... perception of 'speed' is higher when actual airspeed is low...bugger.
Man - I just started following you guys about a week ago, but you've already got me emotionally invested in you two. So glad that you're OK.
Love love love your videos especially the build videos in the shop, would love to see more of them. That said...your oops and close calls are adding up brother. Your skill set and luck have been preventing injury, luck eventually runs out. Statistically speaking you’re on track for a major incident. Might be time for some Root Cause Analysis. Be safe and don’t forget...MORE SHOP BUILD VIDEOS. 👍🏾
Damn!
I feel very bad and very stupid for taking out a runway light with a Sport Cub a few months ago while taxiing from the grass strip across the paved runway to get to the FBO!
My first and only incident since I got my license in 1987 and yes, I fly al lot (just over 2600 hours so far).
Jonas, this is NOT cool and being cavalier about it isn't cool either.
Landing downwind on a 1000 foot strip is a strict no no!!!! C'mon!!!
I guess you are serious about rebuilding, you say just replace the prop but it could have bent the crankshaft or damaged other internal parts. I know you mentioned taking the skins off the wings for inspection and that's good but the engine needs a full inspection too.
I noticed that that the Capella isn't as stable near the stall speed when compared to the Kitfox, that means a little more speed is always needed all the way to the flare and upwind, not downwind.
I've always thought that a higher airspeed by 5 knots or so on final is the only safe way to land since wind can slow or change direction suddenly putting the wings below stall speed too soon.
I am really getting concerned about your judgment and cavalier attitude, Jonas!!!!
Literally said this was going to happen a few videos ago, capella falls out quickly at not very high of AOA, I’m not surprised for a second
The important thing is that you walked away and can learn from your mistake. Seriously though you you have vlogs of what sketchy stuff you have done and it will catch up with you sooner or later. There Are Old Pilots and Bold Pilots, but No Old Bold Pilots.
Great nobody got hurt! Well done! Good repairs! Best!!!
Glad y'all are okay and thankful that you are humble enough to share this so that others may learn. thank you for your content.
We should all have an MMS for all situations. This would save a lot of low level stalls.
Thanks for sharing to help us all learn.
What is an MMS?
Minimum Maneuvering Speed
A mounted AOA indicator would have been beneficial as well.
Except usually one is usually below MMS when just over the numbers... that's the normal way to land the airplane.
The most important thing is that You both are ok, the airplane can be repaired. thank you for sharing your adventures with us !!
Jonas first glad you and silvia are ok. Ive had this discussion for many of years. And take this just from a grain of opinion.
First ive flown and still fly hang glider wings and soaring trikes . I also have a chl 2 lw.
Not a know it all but this i have relied on in hang gliding into thermally hot lzs. ASI YES . But also steeper glide scope. I see many ga pilots in turb conditions still on final with a shallow glide scope. With a steeper glidescope you have all the airspeed you want without relying on throttle . Not saying it was your senario but in shallow glidescopes its much easier to stall and then you have to rely on the transference of engine thrust for AS which takes valuable time.
So if you too read my comment. Great that you dont hide it from others for learning. So dont beat yourselves up iether.
Think monty python
Just a mear fleashwound
Excellent video you two....As you said stuff happens and if we survive then we jump back in with both feet and continue on......Great job Jonas on keeping your head and not losing it in a dangerous situation.........Will be waiting for the next few rebuild vids.....Keep'em coming.
I’m glad you two are ok. I’ll be here watching the rebuild vids. You guys are a lot of fun to watch.
well its time to finally finish defiance!...
Glad that you both are OK. Fix her back up and get flying!
Ouch!! So glad the two of you are OK!
With a prop-strike, don't you need to tear down the engine and inspect it also?
That's mandated by engine manufacturer for sudden prop stoppage. But even if it's not, it's still a good idea.
either a new engine or solid money for repairs, - a blow with a propeller, - such an engine can no longer be trusted ...
I'm glad you two are ok
Not necessarily with the Rotax 912. It has a clutch in the gearbox that's designed to slip and keep the load off the crank. Needs a gearbox inspection, but that's not a big deal by comparison to a full teardown.
that engine is designed to have the prop break away if it suddenly stops, I remember the video with the new engine install. good idea to do an engine teardown anyway.
I am glad you are safe! Always keep your airspeed up! Glad you both got the little lesson without getting injured! Keep the vids coming and make some during the resurrection of the Capella!