Duelists of the Roses - Yugioh's Missed Potential (Retrospective)

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  • It's time to duel! So let's go to England and France and... Wait, that doesn't seem right for Yugioh...
    Chapters
    0:00 - Introduction
    0:20 - Chapter 1 - What even Is this Game?
    3:00 - Chapter 2 - Plot
    8:00 - Chapter 3 - The Yorkist Route
    16:45 - Chapter 4 - Epic Music
    20:46 - Chapter 5 - The Yorkist Route Part 2
    30:33 - Chapter 6 - The Lancaster Route
    43:49 - Epilogue and Conclusion
    48:35 - End Credits
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  • @saniblues-5013
    @saniblues-5013 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +201

    I recently replayed this on a whim. It's amazing how much better the gameplay is if you side with Yugi, but how vastly superior the story is when you side with Kaiba. It's no freaking contest, he treats you like a valuable member of his forces and handsomely rewards you for aiding him in his quest to rid the world of ultimate evil. You feel like a plot device when you're siding with Yugi while you feel like a comrade when you side with Kaiba.

    • @youwayo
      @youwayo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Almost reminds me of Fire Emblem Fates :P

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It honestly feels like the Kaiba ending is legitimately the better ending. Kaiba realizes he was wrong and the White Roses likely end up becoming peaceful after. In the Yugi ending the White Roses would still be upset and likely start another war.

    • @gottesurteil3201
      @gottesurteil3201 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@youwayoconquest has the best gameplay and is also the objectively correct choice in terms of the story. Brought to you by a Nohr supremacist.

    • @Amo-v27
      @Amo-v27 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@polocatfan Kaiba also apologizes for your summoning and keeps his promise of sending you back. Yugi erases the Rose Duelist's name from history and there's no evidence of your safe return.

  • @glitchmakerygo
    @glitchmakerygo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +389

    My headcannon is that the characters just decided to play a really wierd version of D&D with trading cards one day and the result was a couple of really odd but pretty solid games

    • @DarkEclipse23
      @DarkEclipse23 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      And Seto became the better man in the game while Yugi became a selfish jerk? 😂

    • @TacticianCinema
      @TacticianCinema 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      @@DarkEclipse23lol yes kaiba was the DM lmao made the whole thing make him look better haha

    • @DarkEclipse23
      @DarkEclipse23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@TacticianCinema”Take THAT Yugi! Ahahahahah!”
      “Uhh Seto, the heroes aren’t supposed to laugh maniacally :x”
      “Wrong Mokuba, I’m the twist hero, meaning I can act evil and turns out I’m the good guy while Yugi takes all the credit and damns the player to wander in this time period forever”.

    • @kirinbobarcana
      @kirinbobarcana 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But,what about Simon? How would he fit in?

    • @ArbitraryOutcome
      @ArbitraryOutcome 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I mean, I'm pretty sure YGO actually drew a ton from D&D super early on (even when the card game took prominence, afaik) so it's not that far off.

  • @sakanagakyoko
    @sakanagakyoko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    Fun fact: pegasus can actually see your facedown cards, that's why he will never fall to your traps, never attack stronger monsters and the moment you have a strong monster next to your leader he will use change of heart

    • @leblanc3536
      @leblanc3536 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Bastard kept hitting my deck master with my 5k pumpking

    • @synchaos9141
      @synchaos9141 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      literally i thought like that as a kid when i fought pegasus like he's using the millennium eye

    • @Dizzy2death
      @Dizzy2death 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It's in his AI, they found it when Clovis made the Redux Mod

  • @SubZerosHat
    @SubZerosHat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    This game is so weird to me, and not for the reasons you think. Some kids showed up to my front door one day, holding this game in their hands. Apparently they had found it outside in the street (?) and just straight up gave it to me.
    Pretty fun, even if I was way too young to know what I was doing at the time.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      You're a supporting character.
      CAREFUL
      XD

    • @jorgewilliam7103
      @jorgewilliam7103 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I found it in an unmarked jewel case in a random drawer around the house as a kid. Truly a magical discovery.
      My brother had burned a cd with this game and left it there ages ago, and had since moved out.

  • @Overdrive_Hero
    @Overdrive_Hero 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    Duelist of the Roses, The Falsebound Kingdom, and Capsule Monster Coliseum. Got fond memories with all three of those games. Game franchises really should dip into other ways of playing a game now and then.

    • @ggrarl
      @ggrarl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      It's the reason people like Pokémon Snap and Conquest.

    • @yamother5913
      @yamother5913 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Capsule monster was peak no one can tell me different 😂

    • @DarkEclipse23
      @DarkEclipse23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@yamother5913idk Forbidden Kingdom was tough in the beginning but super fun when you got the hang of it. Esp when you got the prize at the end >D

    • @yamother5913
      @yamother5913 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@DarkEclipse23 never got to play that one but it always looked fire 😂

    • @DarkEclipse23
      @DarkEclipse23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@yamother5913it’s more like an rpg with monsters. Like you control a team and you have to strategically plan your moves. You could get healing items like the ones in the card game like red medicine. And some monsters have co-op attacks like DM and DMG.
      However the beginning is arse because you don’t have much to start with. Not much heals and quite a bit of hard enemies 😂 not impossible. Just takes a bit of caution in the first chunk. I think you get a pick of an Egyptian god monster near the end which was cool and it had a ng+ feature I think.

  • @animeegotists7527
    @animeegotists7527 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    I miss these games.
    Duelists of the Roses, 5Ds World Championship, and even Tag Force were really what kept me into Yugioh.
    Some of the games were just simply the same card game again, but I at least appreciate how we got some cool retellings; and even some brand new stories and characters. WC 2011 with Toru and Misaki anyone?
    I wish we got more of those games nowadays: with stories and new content: rather than just simulations.
    Thanks for this video, brought back a lot of fun memories!

    • @minichad5456
      @minichad5456 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      But fore some people are the simulations the only way to play the game really, cause cards can be quite expensive and it can be hard to find opponents as a casual in real life, But I also think we should get more games like the old ones cause they were sick

    • @animeegotists7527
      @animeegotists7527 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@minichad5456 never said we should do away completely with the simulation games. Just would like if we could get a good mix of both.

    • @Ritokure
      @Ritokure 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It's real sad how that Rush Duel game and Legacy of the Duelist aren't even in the same ballpark when compared to the average output of Konami's late 2000s / early 2010s Yugioh games. Then again, considering the state of Konami nowadays, can't say I'm surprised.
      Also since you mentioned it, big shoutout to Misaki, especially since MangaKamen made a video ranting about female characters in Yugioh. Female introverts are rare and when they appear they tend to fill the "cute shrinking violet" role, so getting one that avoids this trap, is a prominent character in the plot AND undergoes a character arc in a series infamous to mistreating their female characters like Yugioh is worthy of praise.

    • @animeegotists7527
      @animeegotists7527 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Ritokure Exactly! She’s one of my favorite Yugioh characters and she ain’t even canon😂

    • @John-Stark
      @John-Stark 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh God, 5ds World championship was the best!

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    Man this version of Seto has pretty strong rizz to get the protagonist to side with him ahahah.😹

    • @ChargeQM
      @ChargeQM 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      And he actually keeps his word. Absolutely the superior choice!

    • @Envy_May
      @Envy_May 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      christian rosenkreuz _did_ allegedly start an entire movement, so there you go

    • @dancarter5775
      @dancarter5775 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Jee, we're supposed to pick a side as we are the key. Would you pick the side with the leader who had an underling summon you and couldn't be bothered to show up himself? Or the faction whose leader came to personally retrieve you because you are just that important?

    • @blub1220
      @blub1220 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Tbh, the first time I played the game, I chose Kiba because I found him sexy. At this time, I didn't know it that it was attraction because I was 13 or so.

  • @sweetsea3607
    @sweetsea3607 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I really like how the games back then were a hybrid between Yu-Gi-Oh! and Yu-Gi-Oh! Duelist. I think a lot of people forget that originally Yu-Gi-Oh! was not meant to be focused on Duel Monsters but rather games as a whole. Yugi and Atem are the champions of Duel Monsters but Kaiba is the champion of so many other games which makes them the perfect bosses to defeat.

  • @anggakarapreviandana2877
    @anggakarapreviandana2877 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    Hi, so here's interesting thing about Seto's character on Duelist of the Roses (Thanks to the Fridge page of that game on TV Tropes).
    Seto is based on Christian Rosenkreuz. The origins of the "real-life" Rosenkreuz are Shrouded in Myth (if he existed at all is debated), but the manifestos documenting his life put his date of birth in 1378, while the war of the Roses took place in the mid to late 1400s. Furthermore, Rosenkreuz had nothing to do with Richard III or the War of the Roses. So why is Seto cast as Rosenkreuz in the role of Richard III's enforcer?
    Rosenkreuz founded a secret society called the Order of the Rose Cross, which studied ancient knowledge he purportedly learned on pilgrimages in the Middle East, and their sigil was a cross with a white rose in the middle. This symbolically connects Seto to the Yorkists via their own white rose sigil, and perfectly ties into Seto's goal to summon an ancient Card God from Egypt. Rosenkreuz was said to have lived to be 106, and since magic is well known to exist in the Yu-Gi-Oh! universe, it's totally plausible Rosenkreuz was able to retain his youth for his century-long life. Finally, Rosenkreuz's date of death is 1484, and the Battle of Bosworth field which is the climax of the game took place in 1485. Thus one only needs to fudge the dates just a little bit to make all this work, because after the battle with the Card God at Stonehenge, which happens very shortly after the Battle of Bosworth Field, Seto and the Rose Crusaders vanish from England and are never seen again.

  • @TwilightDoomSlayer301
    @TwilightDoomSlayer301 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    This game is heavily underrated and I'm glad that it's getting more exposure thanks to this video. Nice work Kamen

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Now only if this video got more exposure itself lol.

    • @TwilightDoomSlayer301
      @TwilightDoomSlayer301 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Mangakamen Fingers crossed. Love your stuff, keep up the good work

    • @ballsofsalsa01
      @ballsofsalsa01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Mangakamencapsule monster colosseum??? Another PS2 game , very fun , lots of problems like 0 replayability

  • @redkujaku8817
    @redkujaku8817 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    Ahh… I remember playing this game as a teenager. Staying up on weekend nights grinding to get the cards I wanted, especially the cocoon of evolution. It even got me to look up the war of roses as a teenager as well

    • @zZiL341yRj736
      @zZiL341yRj736 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used a gameshark.

    • @SHADOMEGA7569
      @SHADOMEGA7569 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Didn't Rosenkruz nope out of there last second. Or at least knew he was at a loss before the attack began?

    • @redkujaku8817
      @redkujaku8817 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SHADOMEGA7569 I think he did at the end of the red rose campaign

    • @distorteddivine3638
      @distorteddivine3638 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@SHADOMEGA7569 In the game, yes, because he's a crafty bitch who tricks the player into summoning the big bad by standing in the right spot and the player having all the rose cards and agreeing to duel him. If you're talking real life, Christen Rosenkruz wasn't involved in the war and died a few years before the end of it at like 106 years old(if he actually existed, but thats a whooole separate thing). I do think it's hilarious that they used Seto Kaiba to represent him, though.

    • @val9169
      @val9169 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@distorteddivine3638Wait, now I'm curious, wdym by "if he actually existed" 👀?

  • @theredestshirt9726
    @theredestshirt9726 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    You know what I’ll admit it, one of the reasons i got into Tag Force was because it was a half dating sim.
    The other reason is i thought it was interesting the player character wasn’t some random new guy but actually a regular character that felt part of the cast (at least during GX)

    • @Zetact_
      @Zetact_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      There was lore integrating the hat guy with 5D's in Tag Force 4-6 to a certain extent. Moreso in the later games, there's a pretty consistent plot thread across a few stories like Pladico's and I think it's also brought up in Sherry's that establishes the player character is a robot from the future.
      It is weird that the Tag Force originals haven't been brought back in newer games since they could be used for a ton of benefit in games and already had established personalities, and in later Tag Force games their designs and expressions even got differentiated to lean into their personalities more. They would do brilliantly in the current market.

    • @frankspick7544
      @frankspick7544 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Zetact_ not just a robot apparently a robot that was base on the person who raised aporia

    • @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I really wish we got more Tag Force games 😭

    • @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Zetact_Oh we NEED them to make more Tag Force game’s Immediately

  • @lordinquisitor6233
    @lordinquisitor6233 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    You know the last thing I’d expect was the words “war of the roses” and ‘yugioh’ in the same sentence but you know, the history student in me is digging it

    • @reloadpsi
      @reloadpsi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's so silly isn't it? But it's also so charming.

  • @pokeperson1000
    @pokeperson1000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    I like how the game is basically meant to be played at least twice. Siding against Kaiba makes for an easier first campaign with a little bit underwhelming ending, then with all the resources you accumulated, siding with Kaiba enters you into the harder campaign that you are now prepared for due to the resources you accumulated in the first campaign, and a more satisfying ending.

    • @coolgabe555
      @coolgabe555 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I would argue Kaiba has the easier route since Tea has some of the best cards in the game and arguably the best type in the game and Pegasus is one of the hardest duelists.

    • @doomdesire2809
      @doomdesire2809 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​​@@coolgabe555Yeah, but Mai is a HARD stop. You can play far more of Yugi's route without fighting Pegasus.
      But... Mai is also the only problem duelist in Kaiba's route.

  • @GojiraSteve2019
    @GojiraSteve2019 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    I loved this game back then

    • @Shinyprofjareth
      @Shinyprofjareth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same here

    • @cerberyn
      @cerberyn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I still have it. I still play it, I still love it!

    • @mckstellar1005
      @mckstellar1005 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me2 I actually rented it and should of kept it from the movie gallery.

    • @Necroskull388
      @Necroskull388 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t remember how the game played but I distinctly remember especially enjoying this game in particular out of the several yugioh games I had

  • @SapphireCarbuncle009
    @SapphireCarbuncle009 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Small a difference as it is, and as poor a substitute as it is for an actual differing plot, I do like that depending on who you side with, you either have a linear path or a more open ended approach in how you tackle things, especially considering your goals. Yorkists want you to beeline it to Yugi, and the Lancastrians want you to jjst get the rose cards

  • @marxxplaysgames
    @marxxplaysgames 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I just realized... it isn't just anyone embodying Tudor, that's specifically Yami Yugi... of course he'd be the villain he's the dark yugi

    • @haruhisuzumiya6650
      @haruhisuzumiya6650 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lives up to the name "the terrible Tudors"

  • @Zetact_
    @Zetact_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The reason why the franchise never really had spinoffs or alt formats is just because of how halfhearted Konami was with making them. There are so many spinoff games from Yugioh's peak in popularity like DDM, Falsebound Kingdom, Capsule Monster Colosseum, Destiny Board Traveler, Wheelie Breakers and, yes, Duelists of the Roses but most of them were more or less shovelware which probably soured the experience for things that aren't card game simulators. Similar thing happened recently with Cross Duel. And a similar thing happens with alt formats like Pegasus Challenge or Boss Duel in that they appear for a little bit, usually only in OCG regions, then just kinda stop being run.
    With the recent news of Konami's shareholders expressing concerns with the longevity of the IP, maybe they will be making something for people who like Yugioh for the aesthetics, characters, lore, and creative gameplay but don't like competitive.

    • @maileesaeya3614
      @maileesaeya3614 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've looked into some of the "meta plot" stories being told through the cards (the saga of Gagagigo being one of the earliest and best known), and I find myself thinking "Forget these ridiculous anime about how a children's card game created the universe and defines the world's economics and politics, give me anime based on these meta plots!"

  • @GavinAstraWolf
    @GavinAstraWolf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Still to this day I want a Duelists of the Roses Sequel. The fact it was only the one game drives me insane cause it has so much potential that NEVER gets realized.

  • @kenu995
    @kenu995 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The Redux mod by Clovis and his friends has a great Vanilla Plus feel. Revamped starter decks, new enemy decks and maps, and every card in the game is made obtainable. Also the cards and models are the unedited Japanese versions.

    • @TheArmyofHades
      @TheArmyofHades 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i Second that, Clovis made this much more enjoyable and made me play the game once more and i loved it.

  • @Zoomer3989
    @Zoomer3989 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    It's funny that P. Seto's strategy of letting you get all of the rose cards exactly parallels Seto's strategy of letting you get all of the millennium items in Forbidden Memories. Work smart, not hard

  • @redkujaku8817
    @redkujaku8817 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Funny enough, Pegasus was the sole reason as to why I sought out the Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth. Not only did it weaken his monsters but it also served as an indicator as to which cards were monsters and which ones weren’t.

    • @NeroLordofChaos
      @NeroLordofChaos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      PUGM is a godsend. Hilariously, if you use a card cheat to get all the cards (which is unfortunately the only way to get a few legit cards * cough * looking at you Exodia pieces * cough * you can actually throw out PUGM for about the same cost as Petit Moth.

  • @Did_No_Wrong
    @Did_No_Wrong 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I honestly really dig what they did with Yugi and Seto in this game, going in this you would let your preconceptions from the anime guide you into thinking Setos the bad guy and yugi is the good guy where in reality its the other way around. Henry Tudor Yugi and the Lancasters were the ones who started the war of the roses in the game just so that he can put himself on the throne regardless of the bloodshed that would follow while Seto and the Yorkist are just trying to defend their homeland and fulfill Setos family dream of summoning the card guardian. Its a amazing subversion of expectations that Seto is who the Duelist of The Roses should alllied with because unlike Yugi his motives are pure, upfront and honorable with Seto being the one who keeps his promise sending the protagonist home and even giving him a memento that symbolizes his debt to the protagonist that his descendants would recognize.

  • @bored4033
    @bored4033 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I feel like a tactical rpg based on the tcg/ocg card lore would be super interesting. Like, imagine a dogmatica game or a game based on duel terminal. You wouldn't need a model for every modern card because the majority of them wouldn't exist in that word.

  • @SHADOMEGA7569
    @SHADOMEGA7569 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    definitely give the redux mod a try, its basically that third path you were looking for and it actually breaks away from the character builds that the base game gave each opponent. IIRC it also adds some cards to the game as well that released before the GX packs became standard.

  • @Chris-jx4ij
    @Chris-jx4ij 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My childhood Yugioh spinoff was actually Falsebound Kingdom. I never even had Forbidden Memories, or Duelist of the Roses. I did end up with the Capsule Monsters one though.

  • @TetsuRiken
    @TetsuRiken 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    You know now that you point out that Kaiba keeps his word and gives you something to grant you a boon and sends you home
    If you listen to the music for each side the Yorkists battles (vs them) have an almost up beat heroic sound and the other song is kinda villainous and given in the context of the story you are supposed to do what Kaiba said kinda makes me wonder

    • @mateussilva635
      @mateussilva635 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The villanous songs is because you are fighting the good guys, so it's kind of your theme, not theirs. But I agree that the game sends mixed signals and plays with expectations on which path is the "righteous" one.

  • @Holly-khore-levina
    @Holly-khore-levina 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is a super nostalgic game for me. And an interesting one to look back on, since it was made before the Battle City rules were even introduced (it actually came out in Japan right around the time Ishizu gave Kaiba Obelisk and all that in the anime). So this was very much a fun little experiment on how to develop the original Duelist Kingdom/Forbidden Memories mechanics And honestly there is a lot of fun and charm looking back.
    That said as you said not perfect. Along with the AI sometimes being quite dumb there are just... so many ways to snap this game and its theoretical challenge in two. No joke- I have multiple times been able to beat most every opponent using basically Mirror Force and Aqua Dragon. Only swapping stuff around against Bonez and Bakura respectively on the two routes, due to their deck costs being super low. And if like me you had the cheat code book (or nowadays can just look it up online) you can get those at the start of a playthrough

  • @stormbiskit7271
    @stormbiskit7271 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I absolutely loved this game. Even busted out my old PS2 a few years ago to play through it. And, honestly, this vid is making me wanna look into the modern options for it, so thanks!
    And, of course, a fantastic video about one of my old faves. I really do wish these game companies would let their developers try more fun and out-there ideas for their games, but they gotta make that all-powerful dollar with as little risk as humanly possible.
    Because when has taking risks ever yielded results? 🙄

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Couldn't agree more!

  • @Hack_Man_VII
    @Hack_Man_VII 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I have played the time out of this game! I was so disappointed that we never got a sequel to this.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same

    • @zedorian6547
      @zedorian6547 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean this was a sort of sequel to Forbidden Memories and Falsebound Kingdom was sort of a sequel to this

    • @Hack_Man_VII
      @Hack_Man_VII 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zedorian6547 I did play Forbidden Memories, but didn't have the same gameplay. I really hated the way they handled weaknesses and card collection. I think of Duelist of the Roses as being an improvement rather than a sequel.
      I haven't played Falsebound Kingdom. I doubt it would really qualify as a sequel to this in the way I would like. Would give it a try regardless.

    • @wakkaseta8351
      @wakkaseta8351 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The gameplay in Falsebound Kingdom is super different from this just so you know. It switches back and forth between RTS and Turn based Strategy.

    • @Dragonoid269
      @Dragonoid269 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't see how Falsebound Kingdom can be considered a sequel to this. They are nothing alike in both gameplay and story.

  • @The_Bromodo
    @The_Bromodo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'll say this in Tea's defence: If she gets the ball rolling with her deck, she steamrolls you hard. One of the most terrifying cards in her deck is Ray & Temperature, a seemingly innocuous 1000/1000 card except the damn thing erases all stat buffs you give a monster when it battles it. And if it's been powered up by Winged Trumpeter and other support cards, that thing will steamroll new decks that don't have any counters for it yet. This is also true if she gets Hourglass of Courage and Gyakuteno Megami to trigger, as all her teeny monsters can become very, VERY powerful under the right circumstances. Especially if she starts making Mystical Elfs, which make LIGHT a powerhouse of a deck type considering you can run 3 and fuse at least 6 by having low attack Elf monsters fuse with a LIGHT monster.

  • @DerMotze
    @DerMotze 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now that is a blast from the past. I think I'm gonna pick this game up again and see what 10 year old me had on his savefile back in the day.
    I still own every memory card with all the save files from my childhood. One of the only ways of knowing what niché games I played back in the day.

  • @Aleph3575
    @Aleph3575 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    11:58 This happens to be the way to get rare and powerful cards btw. So yeah, it can be kinda tough getting stuff like a Blue Eyes or the Dark Magician in this game. But you're generally better off building your deck around an element or theme like the deckmasters kinda suggest. Also, you're supposed to be able to unlock special abilities and stuff at higher ranks for your deckmaster, but I've never seen these ever because it is a CHORE to level up your deckmaster. The AI has it sometimes though.

    • @NeroLordofChaos
      @NeroLordofChaos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The best way to level your commander doesn't even open up until post game when you can make your own versus map. I forget the exact setup, but it involves a few labyrinth walls, Duel Master K (T?) and the as many copies of your commander as possible. It still takes like 20-30 duels to max them out as well.

    • @tomforge614
      @tomforge614 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think one of the game's biggest weaknesses is that the Duel Master promotions should have been snappier/quicker, and there needed to be some nameless mooks under each general, so you can at least promote your first deck master more than once between both campaigns.

    • @Aleph3575
      @Aleph3575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NeroLordofChaos Yeah I ended up watching Clovis (who's basically the expert on this game) and according to him, even done at maximum efficiency, it takes something like 6+ hours of continuous play to max a deckmaster. Which is why his romhack lowers the EXP thresholds significantly, and he provides both a tutorial and a guide on how to lower them for the base game as well.

  • @Droidking13
    @Droidking13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Never played this game as a kid because I was nintendo kid. I will say we need more card videogame games like this. Bandai is in a good position to make a Digimon card game like this and could work well with each opponent having a different mega or family. For the next yugioh video video, you tackle The False Bound Kingdom.

  • @SixFacts
    @SixFacts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man this game was so fun. I just thought it was so cool being able to fuse monsters and pop them out. I think the gameplay to me was extremely fun especially since I loved yugioh as a franchise. But I can easily see how it would be off putting if you weren’t a fan. It’s kind of like how I see Pokémon and the old Digimon world games (digimon world 3 is an old goat for me). It’s so easy to self insert and have fun in these games. I felt like I was really a duelist and it was just so sick. Thank you for making this video, I appreciate the hard work and dedication it took to make it and I was so entertained!

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much, it's a game that I enjoy too - Even though it has some issues. Also, you should check out some of the modded versions of this game :)

  • @Eliphaschoas
    @Eliphaschoas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love this game, and I do like the connections it has to Forbidden Memories.
    I do believe however (could be wrong of course) that you are the same character in both games, The Prince of Egypt, so in this Yami Yugi isn't Henry Tudor instead it's just Grown up Yugi who is Henry Tudor.

  • @krysmphoenix6010
    @krysmphoenix6010 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish you had touched on the Fusion aspect of the game because that's what turned me fad away from this game as a kid. I couldnt find any in-game guide on what monsters would fuse together and what couldnt. So my opponent would always fuse together something strong while i was stuck at stuff below 2000 ATK and no terrain advantage.
    In hindsight, its very fascinating and the terrain is a neat gimmick. I remember playing MtG with friends in a similar gimmick format as this, using lands as tiles. A modern remake of this game, or even just a spiritual successor with its own card list, would be fun to play.

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    There was a lot more experimenting in the industry in general I think. Back before the days of microtransactions and en masse trend chasing (there were still shades of that though, like online RPGs but the trends didn't bloat the AAA scene nearly as much). Course some of it was mishandled, like with the Mega Man franchise where they were trying to do too many things at the same time, leading to franchise burnout, I guess Disney didn't hear about that considering how they handled the MCU.

  • @LustfulOBama
    @LustfulOBama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank u for making this .. i thought i was crazy for thinking this game was a hidden gem plus one of the best game ost ever

  • @thesye1014
    @thesye1014 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this game and your vid brought hella nostalgia. Thank you for the content!

    • @Mangakamen
      @Mangakamen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed!

  • @squeethemog213
    @squeethemog213 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for another fun video game review man. It was awesome thou I did notice some audio issues while watching. Still thank you again and have an awesome day :D

  • @muigokublack6487
    @muigokublack6487 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This game was the reason I chose PS2 over Gamecube and I don't regret it. It was also a great way for me to learn about the war of the roses which proves the best way to teach history is through the lenses of a children's card game!
    Actually for anyone curious, people have recreated the gameplay of this game in virtual tabletops like Tabletop Simulator with new cards from later eras of the game.

    • @Love-Sensibility
      @Love-Sensibility 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YO SAME!!! I LITERALLY OBSESS OVER THE PS2 JUST FOR THIS GAME. THIS GAME IS THE REASON I PLAY THE PS2~!!!!

  • @maliksyv6056
    @maliksyv6056 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Glad to see SeeReax making a cameo on MangaKamen channel. 0:29

  • @ULTIMATZEKROM
    @ULTIMATZEKROM 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I still have this game, still fun to come back to from time to time.

  • @dillanschmidt7459
    @dillanschmidt7459 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I played the heck out of this and Falsebound Kingdom. They were both unique and enjoyable enough. I beat DotR easily enough, but i couldn't figure out how to triple fusion, so no Gate Guardian. And i played with the basic Deck Master since every card I looked at didn't have a Deck Master effect. I didn't look at every monster, but i looked at enough of them. I couldn't figure out some traps that just sat on the field and didn't do anything despite saying otherwise. I like the jackpot end of duel system. I remember getting a candle card like 'Flame of the Candle' or 'Man of the Flame' or something. It's been like 15 years, cut me some slack. It's effect was it reduced opposing monster's atk by 100 each turn. Not super OP but i would stall out games for a long time and try to one-shot the opposing duelist with the Riryoku spell card mentioned in the video. I had a blast with it.

  • @LupusRexXIII
    @LupusRexXIII 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Duelist of Roses is hands down one of my favorite games I played as a kid. I can't tell you how many hours I played it. It was great to see a video covering it, Capsule Monster Coliseum next? lol

  • @DarkEclipse23
    @DarkEclipse23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I come back to this video a lot because before the gba gx game and nightmare troubadour and legacy of the duelist, this game was the most played I ever did. So it’s been nice to hear about this game. I mean yeah I played falsebound kingdom and capsule corp. but Both were so difficult and vexing I rarely enjoyed replaying it. Anyways for the hundredth time. Great vid! 💯

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    29:41 For the Arc-V fans unfamiliar with this card, it's _normally_ Dark Rebllion XYZ Dragon's effect in spell form. For some reason this game changed your monster's ATK to your LP for the effect and instead of _one_ of his monsters it's _all_ of them.

    • @13KuriMaster
      @13KuriMaster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh, it's because that how it worked in the anime/manga when it was used by the Paradox Brothers (then copied by Joey's copycat card).... a lot of cards here have effects that better reflect how they were done in Duelist Kingdom actually (like Swordstalker gaining strength from cards in the GY to Terrain bonus in general).

  • @pokuhmoo9415
    @pokuhmoo9415 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Happy birthday Kamen

  • @sakanagakyoko
    @sakanagakyoko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey nice video, thanks for talking about the music, it is so good is sad the game is so short

  • @VDragonCreations
    @VDragonCreations 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember playing hours of this game, I always ran the sea deck and CRUSHED everything with Aqua Dragon! And yes, I LOVED THE MUSIC, Mako's theme and Yugi's theme in his palace are my favorite tracks!

  • @DingusMcKringus
    @DingusMcKringus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm so glad you gave that Mako theme a little spotlight in this, that shit is a certified BANGER

  • @pagananarchist4723
    @pagananarchist4723 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "A card, a card. My kingdom for a card."
    Yeah, that's genuinely how it feels sometimes, trying to get certain cards you need for a deck you want to build, and you try to buy singles instead of gambling on booster packs

  • @AndrewPagel9628
    @AndrewPagel9628 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You know, if you do these more often, I would love it if you looked into The Falsebound Kingdom.

  • @Zathurious
    @Zathurious 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I played this game sooo much back in the day. I remember wishing that after completing both campaigns, it would've been nice to relax the deck cost number.
    Hey Manga, your video didn't mention if you discovered my favorite strategy. It involves creating a deck of light monsters and using the mystical elf and darkness descends cards. When flipped, the mystical elf powers up all your light monsters by 800. Darkness descends is a magic card that flips all face up cards face down. Add in a few cards like the magician of fate which brings back magic cards for an additional use... Let's just say I have gotten monster cards powered up to 9999/9999 if I dragged the duel out long enough. It was a total blast, especially when I played against my brother.

  • @ultra6671
    @ultra6671 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember my family had this game as a kid, and my dad played it too, focusing on boosting his Fairy monsters with terrain and magic cards to insane degrees.

  • @zedorian6547
    @zedorian6547 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would be awesome to see a Falsebound Kingdom video as that was probably my favorite Yu-Gi-Oh! game of all time

  • @kevingolden8244
    @kevingolden8244 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely loved the shakeup to the game play, it had some mechanics from duelist kingdom, mixed with tower defense, and a war of rizz.

  • @lavalord96
    @lavalord96 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS GAME OH MY GOD-

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    20:11 Some games still do come with their soundtrack, Sakurai knew he had a good thing with Smash Ultimate and included a music player. Though FFXIV makes you work for most of the songs in the soundtrack and if you miss a seasonal event the year one is given out, unless you want to pay $5 per song in a cash shop on a game with a subscription (and box price for the newest two expansions) you won't be getting that one _ever!_ Also animal crossing added a music player where you can get tracks from KK Slider's concerts.

  • @scragar
    @scragar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a crush card deck for this game, it was so OP because any crush monster destroyed made the tiles under them crush cards which would destroy enemies with more than 1,500 attack.
    The AI would just throw their monsters at it not realising they destroyed themselves then throw away cards to get stronger monsters until they ran out(at which point they'd just sit there waiting for you to win).

  • @Greg501-
    @Greg501- 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Regardless of how you feel about Rush Duels, there is no excuse for its entire TCG region exposure to be a single video game with no updates, and unofficial simulators like Duelingbook

  • @maximus13161
    @maximus13161 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I first played this game around a year ago as I was bored, curious and had nothing better to do and honestly it's still really fun in my opinion. A bit frustrating and confusing at first but once you get the hang of it you can have a lot of fun with it despite how short it is. Definitely a game people should play at least once.

  • @kingofgrim4761
    @kingofgrim4761 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best part about the music for Mako for me… is that my first two copies of Duelist of Roses both started freezing exactly at that point. I’d be stuck with an endless great song on a frozen screen

  • @darkjammin79
    @darkjammin79 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had such a great time with this game back in the day and a few years ago when a casual hour turned into a weekend routine for a couple months. I was last grinding up card experience so my master could get higher ranks along with other favorites. Actually don't recall succeeding or even what the highest is, so assuming it went up a little and that was it. If it wasn't for a couple certain games taking up my gametime thoroughly, I'd try a little more again. Loved this review and hope more come to see it.
    Modern yugioh is.... Master Duel taught me more than enough of the modern playstyle, that is all.

  • @ThiskidKnowledge
    @ThiskidKnowledge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved this game as a kid. Nights instead doing homework playing this or make sure I did my homework on the school bus so I had more free time play this

  • @tomfoolery7797
    @tomfoolery7797 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always liked this game. I remember being obsessed with making the strongest cost effective deck I could make which ended up being a red-eyes dragon/Thousand Dragon deck due to it being a set of monster that are incredible easy to bring out with fusion. For anyone interested here is the deck:
    DECK LEADER: Red-Eyes Black Dragon
    DECK COST: 937
    MONSTERS
    Red-Eyes Black Dragon x3
    Blackland Fire dragon x3
    Koumori Dragon x3
    Curse of Dragon x3
    Typhone #2 x3
    Time Wizard x3
    Lord of D. x2
    Summoned Skull x2
    SPELL
    Mountain x3
    Dark Piercing Light x3
    Magical Neutralizing Force Field x3
    Horn of the Unicorn x3
    Dragon Treasure x3
    Nails of Bane x3

  • @BradBurnian
    @BradBurnian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Legit played this game for YEARS. Great spin on the formula even with its flaws.

  • @therealsaltyxd7661
    @therealsaltyxd7661 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Duelist of the roses is my favorite yugioh game even to this day. When i clocked in so much hrs into this game i ended up having most of the cards except the ones u cant get by normal means.

  • @dalek8404
    @dalek8404 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coming back and watching this again makes me hope that the DS era of games get a chance to shine again. Those were fun.

  • @Vegeta241
    @Vegeta241 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember duelists of the roses! I played the heck out of it and Falsebound Kingdom! It was fun!
    I saw you used a clip where Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon was the deck master. Pretty sure that’s action replay’ed. BEUD is a ritual monster in the game, I don’t think it’s possible to have the individual card.

  • @snark567
    @snark567 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really need to check this game out, when I was young I used to make up alternative playstyles where you move the cards on a grid but I never knew there was actually a game that did something like that.
    So far the only YuGiOh game I still play is a modified version of The Power of Chaos that has extra cards added to it. I have manually tweaked the the weaker monster cards so that they're actually useful and I've made custom decks for the AI to battle with.

    • @moh.syafrianabie8899
      @moh.syafrianabie8899 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, you have the same interest like me: tweaking bad yugioh cards. Do you have any way for us to talk about yugioh stuffs? Maybe discord or something?

  • @popatsot1
    @popatsot1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I anyways wanted to get this game when i was a kid because i played FM the death. Time made me forget but im glad you made a video to remind me it was a thing. Lets go get us a rom

  • @AsuraDandy
    @AsuraDandy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i'm half convinced that the people who made the cards and the game developers were like "I think this is how you play the game" before they came up actual rules.

  • @mmlan-jd7we
    @mmlan-jd7we 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you ❤️

  • @roxasdeviluke317
    @roxasdeviluke317 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love how the game made the yorkist look as good a spossible with them giving you a choice and cementing your name in history

  • @dankura
    @dankura 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this game is my life its been around 20 years now and it hasnt left my mind

  • @GatsbyCioffi
    @GatsbyCioffi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also, I do love that Simon ends up becoming Grandpa later in the lore (Shimon in the Pharaoh's Memory arc), but at the time, nobody knew who Simon was gonna be, so he's just the mystery blue man in this era of games, haha

  • @what1fun1v3rs3
    @what1fun1v3rs3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Happy Birthday

  • @TheMadMadman
    @TheMadMadman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is one game I could play over and over again and never get bored with it. Literally, I've probably beat it about 50 times.

  • @glenmoody-elias1040
    @glenmoody-elias1040 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alright. That's two YuGiOh side games down.
    We are one step closer to a video about Dungeon Dice Monsters.
    Seriously though, YuGiOh side games were wild. Just like how Pokemon side games were wild. My favourite pokemon game is probably the Explorers of Darkness/Time/Sky group. And even without the PMD titles, even Rumble, or whatever the toy one was, was actually kinda neat.

  • @booleah6357
    @booleah6357 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was a sadist when I was younger and started on the yugi side first. Beating rex was a nightmare. Then when I went to the kaiba side it was a cakewalk.

  • @alextalbain9269
    @alextalbain9269 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I honestly liked the game and I still like to go back to it from time to time.

  • @thewafflepan4538
    @thewafflepan4538 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    duelist of roses false bound kingdom those were my jam

  • @striberx
    @striberx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I too missed these types of games... I would love a new one, where its practically like the final season of the original series. Your Character Duelist, pushed back in time into the Pharaoh to help with some new threat, and at first it seems like you're the only one with a "modern" deck, but then new opponents appear and things get crazy for ya. I just find that this could be an interesting/fun idea.

  • @sadcherrytree9737
    @sadcherrytree9737 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for covering my favorite Yugioh game.
    Edit: Please I would love to play some mods of this game

  • @whitemage34
    @whitemage34 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I get my copy up & running I'll be showing this off

  • @RPGFanboy14
    @RPGFanboy14 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah man, I also went with a machine deck when I played this game. It was so much fun back in the day.

  • @riicky83
    @riicky83 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dark Magician Girl was a bugger to get. You needed to do the card roulette and get three Dark Magicians in a row to get her.

  • @nintendobl00d
    @nintendobl00d 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to see you cover more yugioh games and mods too! There are great ones out there for FM. There was recently an English translation put out for the Game Boy Color capsule monsters game and it’s an incredible game, has a pokemon style overworld with cute sprites and I havent seen anyone cover it yet!

  • @DarkCrystalSage
    @DarkCrystalSage 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've played both sides and still play this to this day...I would love for a movie adaption of this game >:D

    • @zedorian6547
      @zedorian6547 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      To heck with a movie! Go all the way with a full on series!

  • @GlitchGhost1285
    @GlitchGhost1285 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My first deck in this game was the fairy deck... But it sucked so I started over and got the zombie deck, worked my way up to Joey, beat him multiple times until I had the different Red-eyes I could get from him and I was happy as a clam when I beat grampa and finally got a summon skull.
    Good times.

  • @gentlyvillainous
    @gentlyvillainous 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to love playing the GX rpg on ps2, it felt so cool being able to walk around and talk to people while customizing my deck how I wanted. It honestly felt like a yugioh game made by Pokémon devs.

  • @jeffreywarf
    @jeffreywarf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A yugioh "sandbox" experience that recreates the feel of battle city with a "nemesis system" like shadow of war would be my IDEAL yugioh game. Just imagine there being generated, voiced NPCs that can run up on you out of nowhere and demand rematches or were hunting you. And all of them have unique names and personalities and "remember" your interactions so they'll change their decks to try and beat you

  • @arthurhyatt8964
    @arthurhyatt8964 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My all time favorite yugioh game. I played this so much as a kid/teen.

  • @GatsbyCioffi
    @GatsbyCioffi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still want my DotR sequel. Keep making more similar games like this in different time periods. An Ancient Roman game, a US Revolutionary War game, a WW1 game. Keep the 5000 year long battle going, guys!

  • @chesspuppeteer
    @chesspuppeteer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would happily pay full price if this was remastered and placed onto modern consoles.

  • @moistier3333
    @moistier3333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i remember playing this as a kid and finally beating it in middleschool, found a rom for it and played through it again.

  • @jcs7206
    @jcs7206 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember this game. Played a pumpking deck. The 100+ ATK each round for all my zombie monsters was awesome.

  • @morphtroniccelfon1
    @morphtroniccelfon1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I never played this game however one I remember fondly playing was Yu-Gi-Oh Falsebound Kingdom, it was a sort of RTS style game and it had the usual Kaiba and Yugi routes but had a secret 3rd route to unlock. Would be cool to see you review it!

    • @SuperGoker64
      @SuperGoker64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Seconded. Really wish there were mods for that one as well, like there are for DoR, Forbidden Memories and Reshef.

    • @zedorian6547
      @zedorian6547 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I also would love to see Falsebound Kingdom on the channel. It certainly could stand to get some more love as that game was awesome, plus it kind of took this type of story and fleshed it out more than DoR did