It's Not A Crossover, But Still Worth A Look | 2021 Toyota C-HR

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ม.ค. 2021
  • When is a SUV/CUV not an SUV/CUV? I'm honestly not sure. I think this is more like porn in the Jacobellis v. Ohio Supreme Court decision: I know it when I see it, and this isn't it. On the other hand, the CH-R is something else just as tasty: a better Corolla.
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  • @jeeperwill6262
    @jeeperwill6262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This car when it was first released about 5 years ago wasn't great. Since then they've made some pretty good improvements. What I don't get is the lack of love this car gets. It's very comfortable, handles well, and is a great little daily driver. It's a great all around daily and actually has some unique styling. It's not a cookie cutter looking car. Early models were lacking and yes there is always room for improvement. However this is a good car for it's intended purpose.

    • @th3m3du54
      @th3m3du54 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What have been the improvements?

    • @jeeperwill6262
      @jeeperwill6262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@th3m3du54 Android auto, Apple car play, 8" screen... just to name a few. There's been others. It depends upon trim line. Plus now they actually have trim line options. It was a mono spec car planned for Scion originally. There's full speed adaptive cruise and all sorts of safety tech like lane trace, lane keep where it will steer, stop you, and start driving again. Pedestrian and bicycle detection... a lot of stuff has been added. It's all standard now. They've changed a lot. It's got dual zone climate standard, heated windshield, etc. You can get heated steering wheel, seats, blind spot monitoring, power folding mirrors, one touch up down for all windows. Like I said, they're not bad cars.

    • @allistergraham6704
      @allistergraham6704 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jeeperwill6262I've got 90% of that in my 2017 model

  • @revilsdr
    @revilsdr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a owner of this vehicle I will say it’s best for a single person or maybe a couple, not a family or somebody that has to haul a lot of cargo daily. You can definitely tell this car was designed around the drivers experience not so much for the passengers which I appreciate because I’m the only one usually in it. The limited trim model is actually worth it because you have an eight way power adjusting driver seat the seat is extremely comfortable and just hugs you. I will say I am 5’9” and weigh around 168 this car would not be great of someone of substantial horizontal size might feel a little bit squashed but with that said there’s plenty of headroom throughout. It’s a fantastic little car are you gonna be doing burn outs at stop lights absolutely not but I find the CVT to be very smooth for a 2 L four-cylinder. The CHR looks and feels way more expensive than what you’re gonna pay for it compared to the other vehicles in this category.

  • @PhyuckYew
    @PhyuckYew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    BMW tech here. Get a Toyota.

    • @SteelHex
      @SteelHex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, just not this one. Get a RAV4 or the upcoming Corolla Cross instead.

  • @mahfah7911
    @mahfah7911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Loving this channel for the comparison size charts they show. And great reviews even about little things. Awesome

  • @kuyaspanky.
    @kuyaspanky. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most comprehensive comparison review I have ever seen! Those looking @ the sub compact SUV segment, this is ur video. This is the best!

  • @Soh90
    @Soh90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My wife owns a C-HR Limited and I know from first hand that there’s a reason why these thing don’t sell all that well. Simply put, the C-HR is just not a big car. Virtually everything dwarfs the C-HR inside. Toyota also did a poor job marketing this car and really should have offered it with AWD and a Hybrid.
    But like most things, when you live with it you get to understand it. And with that, I’m actually gonna go up to bat for the C-HR. You can actually live with this car. My wife (who’s name is also Alex lol) has had the C-HR for 2 years and we’ve carried dressers, countless ikea trips, and we’ve hauled plywood from The Home Depot several times (3’x5’). She also had roof bars which further expands the usability. I say if you like it, buy it. It’s good for a small family of 3 but you really shouldn’t push it much more than that.

  • @samueladams5503
    @samueladams5503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My wife bought one based on its looks (so superficial aye) . It's the 1.8 litre hybrid and it gets 60mpg combined hilly/highw driving. Not bad for a lead foot.

  • @candice1189
    @candice1189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was really helpful information. Thank you!

  • @ilaeibmoz
    @ilaeibmoz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bonus with the tall doors and kids is that if my kid can't reach the handle I don't trust them to open their door in a parking lot. Therfore stopping my kids from smashing the car beside and my door. Once kids are tall enough to reach the door, they should be responsible enough to open a door without hitting anything

  • @81fgarcia
    @81fgarcia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I don’t know why Toyota don’t sell this hybrid AWD like they do in Europe

    • @blackwhirlwind1245
      @blackwhirlwind1245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The gas version already sells poorly, hybrid CHR will cost more, people who buy a car in this segment don’t want to pay more for something unnecessary, like AWD, bad MPG, or Hybrid power train that costs $2000+ more.

    • @gondorian1006
      @gondorian1006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@blackwhirlwind1245 the Niro sells pretty well as a subcompact hybrid

    • @motch6182
      @motch6182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I test drove one early in 2020, I would have purchased it if it were hybrid and AWD with a sunroof. I decided on a totally different Toyota.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This feels like something they threw out there because everybody else was. It's strictly a bargain offering, and hybrids aren't seen as appealing to.the young (for no good reason).

    • @austing4321
      @austing4321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gondorian1006 Kia has a weird magical ability to make niche vehicles successful. For instance, The Soul's success compared to other mini-boxes is unprecedented and is the only one of its kind left now. They do have better marketing than Toyota and Honda so maybe that helps?

  • @joskjj3625
    @joskjj3625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    The most reliable bicycle helmet ever created

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Except that despite being a Toyota, Consumer Reports indicates this is one of the lower reliable vehicles in its class. Shame, as I love the styling, and REALLY love the green/white color combo they had in years past.

    • @michaelduke4500
      @michaelduke4500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BoopSnoot Consumer Reports as nothing more than a bought out Ad Agency.

    • @HughRussell06
      @HughRussell06 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, now I can’t unsee it

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelduke4500 That doesn't make sense, as not only do they not accept any revenue from manufacturers, or advertising, and purchase the vehicles they test themselves, but they rate almost all other Toyota products as top reliability with the exception of the C-HR which they list as slightly below average reliability with low consumer satisfaction rate.

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Toyota Prius for example is still their most recommended in class vehicle for a decade now.

  • @ThomasMcGrane
    @ThomasMcGrane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you for the video. I, myself, am an owner of the 2019 Toyota C-HR. Do you think the hybrid version will ever come to the United States now that gas prices are going to start climbing high?

  • @deanb3033
    @deanb3033 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this car! Wish there was one in my garage instead of the HRV, but in Canada it's a deciding factor

  • @phreshone1
    @phreshone1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    This actually deserves a 6sp manual...

    • @LearnAboutFlow
      @LearnAboutFlow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Hyundai Venue had a manual for like six months and now is no longer available. And EVs outsold manuals in 2020, which tells you how the manual is dying. That is beyond sad, and I could not see myself buying any of these underpowered cars with an automatic.

    • @kenkozawa9810
      @kenkozawa9810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The CHR has a manual in many markets outside the US. While it would be cool, no one would buy a manual CHR in the US/NA...look at how few buy manual Corolla..

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LearnAboutFlow Why not? Every performance test I've seen in years has shown automatics outperforming manuals. An 8-10 speed autobox or a cvt simply has more gear ratios and can change them more quickly. No big mystery.

    • @LearnAboutFlow
      @LearnAboutFlow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markmiller3279 Um, please provide proof of your claims in this class. We're not talking Veloster N here.

    • @tousshong9438
      @tousshong9438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope! It needs to be put to rest!!! RIP!! Bring over the Corolla Cross from Thailand....hurry

  • @WanderingAroundAZ
    @WanderingAroundAZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Toyota needs to drop this Scion relic and bring the Corolla Cross to North America.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I expect an announcement in the next 6 months.

    • @kristians2704
      @kristians2704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about the Yaris Cross?

    • @discordwhen2472
      @discordwhen2472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kristians2704 either is better than the CH-R

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kristians2704 It was make sense to sell that here as well.

    • @austing4321
      @austing4321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Corolla Cross is bland as hell. The Yaris Cross is slightly more attractive at least. Toyota needs some soul.

  • @SamiMusic138
    @SamiMusic138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!!!! Thank you so much!

  • @stuntmonkey00
    @stuntmonkey00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    If only Toyota would hurry up and bring the Corolla Cross to NA.

    • @Mo.Jo.
      @Mo.Jo. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      agreed!

    • @EvendimataE
      @EvendimataE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ill be very happy even with the yaris crosstrek

    • @tinhinnh
      @tinhinnh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They’re gonna rebadge this and give us a corolla cross 😆

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Anything would be better than this monstrosity. It has nothing going for it but presumed reliability and standard safety tech, and that's just not enough. There are too many better competitors.

  • @firstcobra88
    @firstcobra88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    how does this get worse MPG than a rav4 that has much more horse power/torque

    • @marcusmcneal7453
      @marcusmcneal7453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Because the C-HR is underpowered for its weight and needs the extra fuel just to get moving.

    • @gns942
      @gns942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The engine is super outdated, the Corolla's engine is far superior in every aspect.

    • @ilyasasaad128
      @ilyasasaad128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gns942 its the same engine ( 1.8l ) xD only the chr can come with the 2.0 l while corolla stops at the 1.8 btw am talking hybrid engines

    • @jeeperwill6262
      @jeeperwill6262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The EPA ratings are bunk. The CH-R gets much better than rated. Many private reviewers confirm this with long distance test drives. I can also verify this as I own one.

  • @masta839
    @masta839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This reminds me of Toyota Matrix with an upgraded look.

    • @SilverScarletSpider
      @SilverScarletSpider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The Toyota Matrix XRS and Pontiac Vibe GT were so much better than this CHR

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      An uglified Matrix with less rear seat room, cargo space, and performance. The Matrix's only big problem was a truly ugly dash seemingly inspired by a boom box.

  • @dominicfong6341
    @dominicfong6341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    FWD with stability control & winter tires(Nokian Hakkapeliitta) is all I needed over any head gasket eating Subaru.

  • @chrismv102
    @chrismv102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I looked at the CH-R before I settled on the Kia Soul. All wheel drive isn't 4 wheel drive and after getting stuck in Vermont snow a couple of times in my 2017 Forester I realized that AWD is overblown and not necessary in 99% of driving situations. Room? The Kia Soul has more interior space than my Forester did and blows the CH-R away. The clucky Subaru entertainment meant it constantly lost my blue tooth connection. Kia's works and works and works. The Forester's clutch blew out at 30k so we will see how long Kia's lasts but it just seems better made. Plus it's not as expensive. I get better mileage than rated BTW.

  • @tdgdbs1
    @tdgdbs1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That cruise control stack has been in Toyota's part bin longer than I've been alive.

  • @victord5868
    @victord5868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In Australia, CHR comes with 1.2 Turbo and AWD. There's a 1.8 Hybrid model.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In Australia you can walk right passed this in the Toyota dealership and buy a GR Yaris.

  • @borinvlogs
    @borinvlogs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We are actually collecting CHR Orange Edition 2.0 litre Hybrid tomorrow. It is the top of the range model in UK comes with every available option Toyota makes including Adaptive LED headlights, dynamic turn indicators, all full LED front and rear, heated steering wheel/seats, Apple CarPlay/Android Auto, Lane assist and adaptive cruise control, JBL sound etc all for £30k after £4k discount. Still a bargain compared to entry level 2 litre diesel German cars that will come with poverty spec without any options and technology.

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're making the smart choice. Here in the USA, we laugh at people who buy German cars because German cars are overpriced unreliable heaps of junk.

    • @snooooopycomehome
      @snooooopycomehome 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm jealous. We don't have half those features in US models. Best wishes with it.

  • @lryoung17
    @lryoung17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lmao. "That bobbleheaded feeling"
    My mom has a FWD 2019 EcoSport Titanium and it definitely does give that feeling over uneven road and it handles tight enough but it's not confidence inspiring at all 🤧

  • @doziershaw9765
    @doziershaw9765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    C-HR is a left over Scion product which is just a placeholder for a real Toyota product like the Corolla Cross.

    • @WanderingAroundAZ
      @WanderingAroundAZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! They need to bring the Corolla Cross to North America!

    • @panzer_TZ
      @panzer_TZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Corolla Cross would make 1000% more sense. I get that Toyota already spent money on developing the C-HR for Scion, but they need to cut their losses and bring the Corolla Cross to the US.

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@panzer_TZ Toyota is bringing the Corolla Cross in 2022 and it will likely replace this C-HR.

  • @cindyx.3710
    @cindyx.3710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    C-HR Toyota hybrid, half saves keep filling up on unleaded Beautiful car, sounds quite. Better for environment. I love mine. The only problem is, that the back passenger seats, not enough leg room or enough space for a shopping trolley in between the back seat of the floor. Also a sliding sun roof would be nice, for the summer.

  • @joec1774
    @joec1774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My biggest issue with this is that it's way too underpowered. We wanted Toyota reliability and looked at this vs. Corolla h/b - the Corolla with the 169 hp engine is more fuel efficient and much quicker. We also liked the interior design, materials quality, visibility and layout better. Without AWD, why bother with this? I get that this is crossover-esque, but in some cases, I think the Corolla hatch is a more direct and very relevant comparison that I wish Alex made - like he's done with the RAV4 vs. Venza.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed.

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, the Corolla hatch not only has the more powerful engine, it also has the CVT with a physical launch gear which makes it faster off the line and also more reliable. This 2021 C-HR has the old-school CVT with no physical launch gear.
      To add further insult to injury, the Corolla hatchback also weighs several hundred pounds less than this bloated C-HR which makes it even faster and much more fuel-efficient.

    • @joec1774
      @joec1774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@braetonwilson4296 - agree with you and +Right Lane Hog for sure. I also felt the Corolla handles better (huge improvement over past Corollas too because of TNGA), and the digital instrument TFT in our XSE is much more attractive than the CH-R set-up.

  • @chuckers40
    @chuckers40 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a picture of the Toyota Corolla Cross on youtube. The vehicle looks good. It looks bigger than everyone thinks. Hopefully it will be in the U.S. for the 2022 model year.

  • @pohanahawaii
    @pohanahawaii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the C-HR Nightshade series available in red like here? I thought they were all black!

  • @StandingUpForBetter
    @StandingUpForBetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great honest and straightforward review! We have a 2019 C-HR XLE and LOVE it! I also agree about the comment made about the clumsy drive mode selection. There needs do be a dedicated "Sport" button near the drive selector. There are blank buttons there after all. It not only remembers "Eco" mode when you shut it off but it also remember "Normal" mode but not "Sport". For me and my family, what attracted us to this car was its styling, size, safety features and price. Somehow they packed 10 airbags in this little car. We do live in So Cal so not having AWD is not a issue. If people are interested in this car, don't listen to all the hate and drive it yourself. It is a great driving little car and feels more expensive than its list price. I have been seeing more of them on the road now. Recently we came to appreciate having an actual spare tire and not a fix a flat kit. The only issue we have had was a rattling noise from a loose bushing in the exhaust but Toyota fixed that under warranty and we have had zero issues since. For those who got this car and want even more performance I highly suggest getting the TRD Air Intake Kit and TRD Lowering Springs to squeeze out even more performance out of this car. You will give up some MPGs but for us the added performance was worth it. We have the parts and will never go back. You can get these parts directly from your Toyota dealership. Again, great review!

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2021 Corolla also has 10 airbags. TRD Air Intake Kit is a great idea though considering the C-HR already has worse fuel economy than the Corolla, IDK if reducing the fuel economy even further is smart. Also, one of it's very few advantages is it's decent ground clearance. You neutralize that advantage by using the TRD lowering springs so that makes little sense. You should have just bought the Corolla with the 2 liter engine instead if you wanted performance.

    • @StandingUpForBetter
      @StandingUpForBetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@braetonwilson4296 Teach each their own. The C-HR is perfect for us. It is not just ground clearance but seating position that is important for us. It sits higher than the Corolla which was an important factor for my wife. My mother is elderly and when I have to go to her house to drive her around the higher seating position makes a HUGE difference allowing her to get in an out easier. As far as getting a Corolla, our 2019 Honda Civic Type R does everything infinity better than any Corolla can. The C-HR and Type R both complement each other well for needs of my family and they both actually fit in our garage which was important. Buy what works for you and your family and don't worry about what other people think. In the end these other people are not paying your bills and they don't have to do what you have to do.

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StandingUpForBetter I would much rather buy the 2021 Corolla SE sedan over the 2021 Honda Civic Type R. Type R is overpriced with dealer mark-up, has a nasty unreliable direct injected turbo engine, and has had problems with it's manual transmission (gears crunching). Your point at the end is spot on though.

    • @StandingUpForBetter
      @StandingUpForBetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@braetonwilson4296 We are LOVEING our Type R. It has made both my wife and daughter car enthusiasts. No problems with reliability and no issues with gear crunching. We are also keeping this for a long time. It is one of the best manuals I have ever driven. In short it drives like a dream and has an incredible amount of room AND we got it at MSRP which is something we could not pass up. Enjoy your rides because we are enjoying ours :)

    • @thundergato84
      @thundergato84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blind spot monitoring should be standard even on the LE model.

  • @robertporter1984
    @robertporter1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    No Trunk comfort index??? - Sad face-- Maybe i missed it.

  • @PegasusBYU
    @PegasusBYU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Those huge blind spots are a deal breaker for me. I need to see traffic before I change lanes. Yes, I know they have blind spot monitoring, but until cars start driving themselves (and pay for the insurance), I’m still the operator. Thanks for the video, now I know what I won’t be missing!

    • @samueladams5503
      @samueladams5503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't noticed blind spots being an issue. Mind you, I drive a truck for a living where rear view mirrors don't exist.

    • @PegasusBYU
      @PegasusBYU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@samueladams5503 I drive a school bus and rely on my 4 (total) side view mirrors. The problem with many standard side view auto mirrors is there’s STILL a blind spot (in my personal car, I’ve attached fish eye mirrors to eliminate the problem). I still think this design sacrifices safety for style.

  • @7techno77
    @7techno77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got in back of one.... Claustrophobic nightmare. Family still has 2 old Pontiac vibes (Toyota matrix sister) and that feels so much roomier. Be interested if they bring the corolla cross to US.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Vibe turns 16 this month. The Matrix and Vibe were highly practical, rational and functional designs which is the opposite of this C-HR. Expect the Corolla Cross to arrive when the new Alabama plant comes online within the next year.

  • @gordonshumway9354
    @gordonshumway9354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually think the design is really sharp. But that 0-60 of 11 sec just kills if for me

  • @LOTOVIII
    @LOTOVIII 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Radar cruise is also standard on these ;)

  • @sunflowershine99
    @sunflowershine99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of haters in the comments.. This car is great and better looking than the Corolla. If it’s not convenient for your lifestyle then it’s not for you.. But don’t knock it!

  • @braetonwilson4296
    @braetonwilson4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Alex, why the clickbait title? C-HR is not a better Corolla. Corolla is more affordable, has much better fuel economy, more powerful engine, faster 0-60 time, and more fun to drive. The C-HR despite being more like an crossover/SUV, still has cramped rear legroom and tiny cargo space so it doesn't beat Corolla in that department either.

  • @micahcho7437
    @micahcho7437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't believe there are actually some positive comments about this car

  • @Joncotter324
    @Joncotter324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw the mpg numbers and immediately eliminated it from consideration. You get better fuel economy from a Ford Escape plus all the room, awd, and a hybrid option...all for a similar price.

  • @tomdoe1234
    @tomdoe1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cute car definitely would choose this over a corolla

  • @markvicferrer
    @markvicferrer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I thought it had finally upgraded to the 2L engine & launch gear CVT from the Corolla. Disappointing. And looking at the options, what's the point of the Nightshade edition? Seems expensive for different door handles & badging.

    • @blackwhirlwind1245
      @blackwhirlwind1245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, It does have the 2L engine, but it makes less horsepower than the 2L engine with physical first gear from Corolla and Corolla hatchback, which has similar price point, I don’t understand why people would buy CHR than Corolla Hatchback.

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blackwhirlwind1245 The 2 liter engine in the C-HR is very different from the 2 liter engine in the Corolla. As you wrote, Corolla has a different transmission as well with the physical first gear. Corolla's powertrain is superior in every way.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get the differences in that this is several years old by now. The Corolla just got the latest 2L and the latest cvt.

  • @ak4939
    @ak4939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review as always, but the second it was stated that this is CVT-only, I switched out. The Corolla Hatch is now the one I am looking at, since it has an available Manual Transmission.

  • @Peter-vn8ue
    @Peter-vn8ue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I don't think so Alex, I sat in the rear seat briefly and closed the door, and felt claustrophobic, that rear high door line is terrible.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He does note that it's pretty claustrophobic back there. It's such a cramped back seat that I can't imagine who this would appeal to. Add the grotesque styling, uncomfortable front seats, small cargo area, and slow acceleration and it's hard to see who this would appeal to. The super cheap Hyundai Venue is roomier, more comfortable, and better looking, for a direct competitor. It's only major negative is a Spartan interior, but the Toyota is only a little better - it has a proper center console and armrest, but material quality is about the same.

    • @rzozaya1969
      @rzozaya1969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. I think this is a 2 adult car.

  • @dennisthewalker
    @dennisthewalker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what about the CX-30? isn't that a good competitor?

  • @kin357
    @kin357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way it looks but my like my CX30 better. It's a luxury feel plus the Mazda has way more power. Also the CVT I've heard can be troublesome.

  • @rho008
    @rho008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This needs a EV version. It's not fair that Japan doesn't want to release the manual GR version in the U.S.

  • @daniel41dan
    @daniel41dan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hopefully Toyota brings the corolla cross to America .It won't have awd either, but may have hybrid verison.

  • @aapinor
    @aapinor ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! 👋👋👋👋. Toyota must bring the turbo anf the hybrid to USA. They should add a moonroof and they should not hide the rear exhaust pipe! They must put the real chrome exhaust pipe and not fake! Then, they will have a perfect, beautiful, funcky modern litle crossover!!!

  • @felipealdoguevara3374
    @felipealdoguevara3374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I test drove one and one thing that killed the whole deal was the blind spots ,they are horrible , that design of the rear doors with them placing the door handles that high ,makes all that area so “thick” ,and if you sit at the back you literally can’t see outside,terrible design.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yup. The back seat is nearly useless. You feel like you're sitting on the floor of a black pit with your knees being crushed. The cargo area is poor, too, so it's not as if that's where the space went.

    • @felipealdoguevara3374
      @felipealdoguevara3374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@markmiller3279 on top of that , it doesn’t even offer a sunroof for the price , or AWD .

    • @MiguelRPD
      @MiguelRPD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This car also feels bigger than a corolla, but smaller on the inside. What market does this even cater for.

    • @felipealdoguevara3374
      @felipealdoguevara3374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MiguelRPD exactly, the Corolla feels bigger in the inside , the CH-R is not well positioned.

  • @innerthoughts143
    @innerthoughts143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love my
    Toyota CHR! It’s a joy to drive!

  • @delconagher12
    @delconagher12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've seen & been to one. It's smaller inside than a Corolla. How is that better? I guess if your height is 5'5" & weigh less than 150.

  • @TheDonsDressingRoom
    @TheDonsDressingRoom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my dream car

  • @dforrest4503
    @dforrest4503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can’t think of a reason to buy this. Why hasn’t Toyota brought the Corolla Cross to the US?

    • @tousshong9438
      @tousshong9438 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let's hope Toyota spy follow Alex and his followers and read all the comments on here then maybe they might bring over the Corolla Cross. Best if they give it the option AWD for people like me living in the Pacific Northwest with snows.

  • @samelkhayat7075
    @samelkhayat7075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This would be the perfect crossover if it was AWD and had a sunroof just like the new 2022 Toyota Corolla Cross AWD

    • @nomalungelonkosi6843
      @nomalungelonkosi6843 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My thoughts exactly, it really needs a sunroof.

    • @samelkhayat7075
      @samelkhayat7075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes a sunroof will it give it more light since the back windows are very small and leather seats would be a nice option.

  • @John-kx3ng
    @John-kx3ng 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally have always liked these, probably because it was supposed to be a Scion and not a Toyota. Does anyone know if these will be discontinued?

  • @NIKKG
    @NIKKG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Change that theme music to something more upbeat, the one now is good for curing insomnia.

  • @philricci2012
    @philricci2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Would it kill Toyota to put a better engine in it?

    • @users4007
      @users4007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should put gr Yaris engine in it

  • @JonChenTS13
    @JonChenTS13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only reason I am not considering the CHR is because it doesn't have a awd system. Had Toyota included it here in North America, it would have been a great car for me

  • @edgars4532
    @edgars4532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    we cant get the Yaris GR, so they should put the 1.6 turbo in this.

    • @MelloHubb
      @MelloHubb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 1.6 turbo and awd in this will sell like hot cakes...

    • @tjk9263
      @tjk9263 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the Yaris GR came to the US, Honda would cry because it would lose big money for the Civic Type R.

  • @DolganoFF
    @DolganoFF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I tested this, and the rear doors are absolutely stupid, way too claustrophobic with those tiny windows.
    No comfort for rear passenger and no rear visibility for the driver. Stupid.

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just wish the ch r had a lower belt line and more glass area in the rear to improve airiness and rear visibility

    • @tousshong9438
      @tousshong9438 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen! The overall shape looks interesting on the outside but once you get inside it's cramp. Not even mimi me want to own this stupid CHR. I'm glade Toyota decided to drop this poor selling vehicle and bring in the Corolla Crossover but not here in the USA yet. Currently, only available in Thailand cause that's a shame.

  • @LoveStallion
    @LoveStallion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    C pillar from hell.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't think you are being fair to hell.

  • @yes8032
    @yes8032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I’d rather get Corolla

    • @StrawberryCopper
      @StrawberryCopper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm going for Corolla hatchback in 5 or 6 speed manual. Worried about CVT automatic.....

  • @gregg9672
    @gregg9672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm I wonder if this will be discontinued with the all new Corolla Cross coming..

  • @patton67
    @patton67 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see these all over the road in CA.

  • @gene978
    @gene978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For a small engine with a CVT I think that MPG is terrible. My 2017 Impala Gets over 33 MPG Hwy.

  • @shaneryan231
    @shaneryan231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know where to find that foldable trunk cover?

  • @domiperez1759
    @domiperez1759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They are nice cars

  • @a.reginaf9904
    @a.reginaf9904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We don't have this in our country... I got the Corolla Cross

  • @Dac54
    @Dac54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really wish that Toyota would make this vehicle available in hybrid form for the US market. Even the Corolla hybrid is available with a higher trim level in the neighboring Canadian market; why not here? I think Toyota is being a bit shortsighted in not making more of these options available to the US market.

  • @jmjj27551
    @jmjj27551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why don't they put the Corolla 2.0 instead of the under powered 2.0, rather have the Corolla hatch.

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly! I can't believe Alex called this underpowered overstyled overpriced C-HR the "better Corolla". Puh-leeze!

  • @josephmcollins54
    @josephmcollins54 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the vehicle saves up gas? Cause I'm getting that car and I drive 40 minutes to work and back home.

  • @tonydemore1280
    @tonydemore1280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To me the Subaru Crosstrek is a much better value at a price range of $22K to $28K. More powerful, better ride, quieter, more space and, of course 4 wheel drive.

  • @caliboyrob
    @caliboyrob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s just counterintuitive. It’s basic a raised hatchback which is fine if it had space. It’s too tight just like the Mazda CX-3

  • @rbielarski
    @rbielarski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as usual Alex. I agree about the CX-30, considering that or the Seltos EX/SX or Niro EX. If your money was on the line which would you choose out of the three? Thanks!

  • @luisurbieta8924
    @luisurbieta8924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Alex, my name is Luis Urbieta and even though no cars are perfect I love the videos. Why doesn't the CHR come with Leather?

  • @xenith5003
    @xenith5003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I believe that is the slowest 0-60 I have seen in quite awhile.

    • @normt430
      @normt430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Slowest seller too!

    • @normt430
      @normt430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @blacknester the Chevrolet and Buick sell about twice as many in North America. It is not a good value here.

    • @notsure1135
      @notsure1135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I dig the aesthetics of this car...

    • @normt430
      @normt430 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notsure1135 you'll love the better selling Chevrolet Trailblazer! Probably cost much less too.

    • @notsure1135
      @notsure1135 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@normt430 I am in Australia, that car ain’t here. Toyotas are stalwarts, I love how this looks.

  • @jayhiggins5239
    @jayhiggins5239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I looked. I sat in it. I walked away.

  • @khalidxp8742
    @khalidxp8742 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have chr 2021 in KSA no front sensors no automatic daylight

  • @manthony225
    @manthony225 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Offering a hybrid CHR in the US would probably hurt Prius and Carolla hybrid sales.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As long as the check is payable to Toyota , why would they mind?

  • @WhittyPics
    @WhittyPics 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the hybrid fit under the hood? I think I would still prefer the Rav 4

    • @DolganoFF
      @DolganoFF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Europe it's only available as hybrid

  • @gondorian1006
    @gondorian1006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I can't think of a single reason to buy this.

  • @N2LADIES55
    @N2LADIES55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As small as that thing is it's MPG is criminal.

  • @nivanmajhi23
    @nivanmajhi23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like how this vid still got 0 likes and 0 dislikes

  • @marvelghost
    @marvelghost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see this car alot in NY. I can only imagine how many more I would see if it was AWD #toyota

  • @chrisa2223
    @chrisa2223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pass. I know you got 9.4 sec 0-60, but CD got 11.0 and MT got 10.1. These are all dangerously slow, at least where I live where merging onto highways can be full throttle affairs.
    Why not at LEAST put in the updated 2.0 169HP from the Corolla.

    • @StandingUpForBetter
      @StandingUpForBetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is all about price and MPGs. Getting the price right and hitting that 30 MPG number is very important for this segment. The C-HR is a cross over and is not as aerodynamic as the Corolla form factor and I believe the C-HR is a little heavier than the Corolla because there is physically more car there. Increasing the HP will bump it out of the 30 MPG combined range which is why Toyota offers the first party after market TRD Air Intake Kit which increases torque and horsepower but they don't factor it in with their MPG estimates of the car. The TRD Air Intake Kit allows the engine to breath better but you do give up some MPGs. We have the upgrade and it is well worth it.

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Alex, Can we agree to call this a #CrossUnder ? I expect we won't wait too long for the Corolla Cross and Yaris Cross to meet Toyota's 'obligation' to the small CUV market. In the meantime, the Corolla hatch offers an extra 10 mpg, 25 extra hp, a manual option and much better visibility for less money. Lastly, the C-HR is very popular in Europe but so are French and Italian cars :-()

  • @joskjj3625
    @joskjj3625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like this little machine

    • @normt430
      @normt430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...said no one ever in this comment section except you.

    • @joskjj3625
      @joskjj3625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@normt430 I guess opinions don’t exist in General Motors world

    • @StandingUpForBetter
      @StandingUpForBetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have one and LOVE it!

    • @normt430
      @normt430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joskjj3625 no one is high fiving each other over a CH-R.

    • @joskjj3625
      @joskjj3625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@normt430 just like no one is high fiving each other over a general motors product

  • @jaekob2743
    @jaekob2743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never even mentioned the comparison you made in the title.

  • @pedrofernandez8729
    @pedrofernandez8729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Isn't this very similar to the Corolla hatchback? The Corolla is a much better choice.

    • @GoodMenstruationAttitude
      @GoodMenstruationAttitude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most of these lifted CUVs drive like crap, too, compared to their compact car versions. But try telling that to your average driver "I can't see waaahh"

    • @blackwhirlwind1245
      @blackwhirlwind1245 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      CHR has only 0.8 inches more ground clearance than Corolla Hatchback, if the reasoning for people to buy CHR is because of ground clearance, then it doesn’t make much sense, because the difference is barely noticeable. I simply don’t understand the actual reason. Even though Corolla hatchback is also cramped, but at least better than CHR in other areas.

    • @dancindavey1515
      @dancindavey1515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GoodMenstruationAttitude Drove both before I bought the CHR. Glad I went with the CHR. Prices of these went up, and forget about negotiating. They won’t.

  • @noraa247
    @noraa247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How the hell are you supposed to back out anywhere with that little visibility

  • @naveenthemachine
    @naveenthemachine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just wish they fixed the rear viability. Maybe perhaps add the rear camera mirror from the rav4.

    • @StandingUpForBetter
      @StandingUpForBetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The video from the back up camera on the 2019 versions and above are displayed in the infotainment screen in full screen so visibility has not been an issue for us in our C-HR.

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StandingUpForBetter I wasn’t referring to the backup camera
      If you look at top end rav4 models they have an lcd rear view mirror. That’s what I wish was added to the ch r. The lcd rearview mirror is not to be confused the backup camera

    • @StandingUpForBetter
      @StandingUpForBetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@naveenthemachine Understood. The C-HR from 2017-2018 had that but it was only a corner of the review mirror and the image was not only tiny but low resolution. The digital mirror in the RAV4 is pretty nice. The RAV4 starts and a little over $26,000 and the C-HR starts at a little over $21,000. It all comes down to cost. The solution they came up with by having the LCD screen in the head unit serve as the back up screen monitor works very well and by having the review mirror as a secondary viewpoint the 2 actually work very well together without adding a huge cost.

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StandingUpForBetter that’s what I was saying. The RAV4 does something identical to what the C8 is doing

    • @StandingUpForBetter
      @StandingUpForBetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@naveenthemachine Yeah. It is pretty impressive. You can tell the RAV4 is high up on Toyota's priority list. I'm an old man so for me it is great to see these things I used to see on future concept vehicles like this digital mirror and touch screens make it into everyday production cars. When you think about it we are living in the future I thought of as a kid :)

  • @jimliu2560
    @jimliu2560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The corolla hatchback manual is way better!

  • @petegalindez9961
    @petegalindez9961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting review. I’m in lockstep with everyone you said...HOWEVER, your title poses the question if this is the better Corolla...and then you NEVER ANSWER IT!!!! IS IT??
    I would love to get the Honda, but they need to scrap that infotainment system...worst one I’ve ever used...so sad...their cars are great otherwise. I wish our 2017 CRV would just disappear!! Can’t wait for the RAV Prime to be made in decent numbers to get one. The Toyota infotainment system isn’t anything to brag about though...UNLESS you are coming from a Honda! Then it’s amazing!!!

    • @braetonwilson4296
      @braetonwilson4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it's not and Alex knows it, which is why he never answered it. It was just a clickbait title to get views. Shame on Alex.

  • @rtrt2889
    @rtrt2889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Might as well get a Rav4

  • @andybub45
    @andybub45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This thing needs a redesign ASAP. Even the Honda Fit is more practical!

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Fit is gone.

    • @andybub45
      @andybub45 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rightlanehog3151 still is more practical

  • @alfredc.7777
    @alfredc.7777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was going to get this but engine is SLOW..... so I had to go with the Corolla!

  • @milesfong3901
    @milesfong3901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Although I own two Toyota a Camry and a Corolla, I would prefer HRV or the Crosstrek over the C-hr. The back seat in the C-hr is only good for children which they can't open the door from the outside so it's basically useless.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That says it all. Expect the Corolla Cross and/or Yaris Cross to come to market soon and really compete in this sector.

  • @Pattim4762
    @Pattim4762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one but spoo need 4 wheeldrive

  • @JamalKhan-hf7um
    @JamalKhan-hf7um 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chr is my dream 😍