The only thing I am confident of is that, despite possibly being a new VA, it is a character we already know. Otherwise, there would be no reason to cover his identity, much less tease it like that, cutting off the trailer just as he is removing his hood.
I think the tease just is there to show the fans which already played X that there is additional Story Content and not still only a Cliffhanger. Makes More sense.
@mattgezockt2596 Absolutely, but I still think the way they are teasing it with removing the hood and cutting it right before we see who it is points me to believe we already know the character.
I think you are way too confident about that. Its just a common trailer tactic to draw you in. Double in this case because its to tease more story content.
My dude, I had actually been thinking it might just Lao. Hearing the Japanese VA comparison definitely reinforces this idea for me. Can't wait to see more XCX content.
Won't say I think the black knight is Malos, but I wasn't looking at the screen during the end of the trailer, and I will say my immediate reaction upon hearing "Fancy seeing you here" was "Wait are they adding Malos to this?" I don't really see how some people are saying the two sound nothing alike
Yeah I don’t think it’s Malos either and honestly probably isn’t even David Menkin but my first reaction was that it sure sounded a lot like him. Though it’s such a short line it’s probably impossible to be sure who the VA is.
While I personally think it's Lao (a clone or copy of him, if not the original himself), I'm afraid we all must admit the truth: it's a common variety nopon.
I swear people thinking JP VA's can't voice act is a wild assumption. I'll wait till we get closer to release for some more trailers, but I'm betting on Logos, not Malos.
I’m betting the new voice actor is a relative of Keiji Fujiwara. I know that in Japan companies tend to hire relatives in order to voice characters once a voice actor passes away but so far I haven’t found any information on Keiji Fujiwara’s personal life.
I have three theories on who the Black Knight could be: 1. Elma's old friend that saved the White Whale when the Ghosts caught up to them, as mentioned in-game 2. Maybe not Malos specifically, but someone that the Conduit based Malos on. With Elma's appearance changed to resemble Ontos a bit, it may be possible that some researchers on the Conduit had "bonded" with the cores of the Trinity Processor, influencing the forms we see them take in 1 and 2. The Black Knight DOES sound like Dave Menkin here, and this theory also would tie into the "Blades bonding with Drivers" concept of 2 3. It's a J-Body of Lao that the higher-ups had made, possibly to replace Lao after he betrayed humanity. The J-Bodies never got explained further than in Yelv's affinity missions, and that was the prime example of not only cloning but also the memory manipulation that they were doing in secret. They were implanting memories and essentially creating people that never existed before but had full backstories/history; wouldn't surprise me that their J-Body of Lao escaped or something (I also think that Cross is a J-Body too but that's a theory for another day lmao)
it become a common practice for xenoblade series: you have main story, but actually you have continuation to it with DLC, that's kind of a second game. I like were the game is going. We need explanations for how humanity is still alive, and how Lao is there, who is that guy... also ouroboros crystals people are correlating, maybe this is coincidence? 10 years of doubts
Or he could be the ‘unknown hero’ that was mentioned in the introduction and confronted the ganglion before the white whale stranded, he was Elma's acquaintance and the only thing that was known apart from the introduction is that before stranding he pulled Elma out of the skell they were on, but apart from that nothing else is known.
My best guess is based on the following information: -It's a new voice actor, so a character we haven't heard before -It's probably a pre-established character, thus the need to hide the face -they're a male who know who Lao is Only one pre-established character in X fits all these criteria, and that's the Lone Hero. Now the only way this could be wrong imo is either if they're NOT a pre-established character, or they're a character from outside X. But even then, how many non-voiced important characters exist in the Klaus trilogy? So my best bet is Lone Hero, second place is a so far unknown character. EDIT: After watching your video, I do think that's possible. It's really tough to tell if the English VAs are the same, however (I'm not really good at picking out distinctions, though, so it could just be me) so I'm not quite sold. One possibility is that the planet itself is like some kind of hyper-advanced lifehold meant to keep endangered species alive, so maybe the planet itself is Origin from Xenoblade 3, who knows?
The VA sounds super familiar to me. As I tried to figure out whom I am reminded of by the Voice I ended up at Matthew Mercer being the closest out of all the ones I could think of. There are a few others that I thought sounded similar but the more I compare those the more I'm sure that they aren't it. Meanwhile I can't not hear the similarity to Matthew Mercer. I am unsure though as there is something that is also ever so slightly different but I have not played X. Why can I differentiate Matthew Mercer voicing Chrom, Ryoma and Shigure while still recognizing it's all him but can't 100% make up my mind here.
I think the simplest explanation is that it's Elma's friend, the unnamed Hero, who everyone thought died above Mira before the White Whale crashed. In my perspective, the distinct lores of the Klaus saga and X's universe are too different to reconcile them and put them in the same timeline, but you could easily connect them with Conduit multiverse stuff. And I think it's likely the new story will at least touch on that, if not dive into it. I just don't think this character is going to be a full crossover. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though...if he's somehow connected to Logos in any way, I'm super interested to see where that goes.
Yeah thats gotta be matt mercer. Im not so sure anymore the black knight could be an alternate logos form, but i do still think logos is directly involved with the lifehold, since origin was created in 3 using data from ontos as the frame work. It makes sense the lifehold would also be based on an aegis in the new trailer lao's eye texture changes to be more natural suggesting this lao is the original biological lao. Meaning the black knight could be using a mimeosome identical to lao. I forget if it was ever confirmed or not, but i think the black knight could likely also be Elma's partner, and the reason he took a lao mim was to go unnoticed, at least til lao became the center of attention and he had to start obscuring himself in the black cloak. Maybe its a logos alter ego hopping into other peoples mims, or maybe logos shows up somewhere totally different, if at all. But pneuma and ontos have already shown that theres nothing impossible about duplicating or splitting aegis'. I just dont think lao himself is a logos persona since lao's whole motivation was his family that got left behind.
The question is, do we get only a few hours of additional content like XCDE, with Future connected, that added barely 10-20 hours (which would still be good), or do we get something similar to Torna/Future redeemed?
(Sorry for my bad english)Im have another theories. im test different voice and found 2 possible people for a black cape man, One Is a Yelv, to my video compareted the voice and it s a very similar , the another voice Is a main charter voice Rebel
According to some spculations that Black knight maybe the real human Lao not a mim, hence he wore that black high tech armour body suit, he use to be a hero fighting to protect earth and after earth's destruction he helped the ganglions which the ganglions calling him the great one. And in another theory that Earth is not destroyed rather than it got divided into the Xenoblade 1 and 2 universe as Clause activated the conduit.
Honestly, it would be kinda hilarious to just randomly have Malos here. Like, bro just decided to go to a seemingly random location in the multiverse to investigate the results of the "people were thrown into diffrent worlds"-thing(It still seems like a decent assumption that these enigmatic creator people were originally some of the missing people from mainline-earth) and be part of some bigger conflict that originally has nothing to do with him. But I just don't see how that really does make any sense logically. When exactly was bro traveling the multiverse and seemingly getting to know people? Last time we knew, he spent all his time in Alrest before Xenoblade 2 and is still dead since the end of the game. There is currently not enough connective tissue in the main universe narrative for such a reveal in the X universe to be believable. Of course, they could just retcon the X universe and mainline universe to be one and the same(bad, plz not) and gloss over the bits and pieces that clash, sorta like how it happened with the 1 to 2/3-transition. Then this entire comment would essencially be outdated because it would automatically render the whole "X is connected on a multiversial basis"-theory obsolete. And yeah, the "Lao himself"-idea is also kinda dope. I'd much rather have them do that than them trying to retcon more of the series into a mush because they want it connected but are just unwilling to canonize multiversial stuff.
@@mirandagoldstine8548 multiple voice actors can act in the same game if they have a wide enough range, in his case he has amazing range. L sounds nothing like this character for instance, doesn't have many lines, I can believe it.
I understand why some have these theories but i don't think i want X to be connected to mainline and would prefer X to get its own fleshed out worldbuilding and story. Its own saga if you will. Also i don't see Why it needs to connect and why people are obsessed with xenoblade being like trails when its always been more like FF outside Cross cause Xenoblade Cross is its own thing mostly. As long as they don't cheapen the story that is there with unnecessary retcons i don't mind it connecting somehow to the klaus saga games but i would rather we get a Samaarian Saga and see whatever Takahashi can envision the future of X to be at this point given how its probably changed alot since the original scrapped ghost parasite plotline. Also the most likely case currently for the black knight might be him being the lone hero talked about but that would remove cross possibly being the lone hero from the theory list. Hopefully we don't have to wait long for some more info since X really needs some good marketing and deserves a second chance.
@@daydreamer.nighthawk Project exodus was referenced, but that was it. And the Project exodus in FR was totally different and not compatible with X's version.
@@daydreamer.nighthawk 1. They also named dropped Dmitri Yuriev and the Philadelphia class motherships, both in contexts they didn't originally exist in. 2. That doesn't debunk what I said. The existence of X DE does not magically change the inherent contradiction between X's exodus and Fr's Exodus, nor does it change the contradiction of X's earth having no orbital rings and being destroyed by an explosion caused by an Alien war, and Blade's Earth having none of any of that. 3. That literally would have always been the case, by Virtue of X being the only one not on Switch. Any reference to X would be noticeable in 3, because by definition the only thing left to put on Switch was X. Nintendo doesn't own Saga or Gears, so they don't have any control over when or of those games return. X is wholly owned by Nintendo, 4. This doesn't debunk that they might connect X to the others in XCXDE, but no direct connect exists until DE does so. Fr made no direct connections, it made references to every other xeno game that may or may not become canon depending on what comes later. That's a very different thing from confirmation, and if there's one thing everyone in this fanbase should have learned by now, its that only fools try insist they know the future with any certainty.
It's been a while since I've played X but if I recall, all the real bodies have disappeared at the end of the game, right ? Could it be that it is someone in Lao's original body ?
Spoilers if you don't wanna know: Basically the government lied about bringing the bodies. They were abandoned on earth and they only saved their data in the lifehold. Another reason it can't be Laos' real body is because the database is actually wrecked as we see in the end.
I mean.... Why couldn't it be Lao? There's so many ways that it could go. I don't think it's a stretch and obviously they want us to speculate ourselves crazy with that tiny bit of dialogue.
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It's obviously Addam Origo with his iconic cloak which he's about to remove the hood.
It's obviously Xemnes. Takahashi borrowed him from Nomura. ;)
Now that you mentioned it it's funny that I never noticed the similarities with the cloak when playing 2 lol
The only thing I am confident of is that, despite possibly being a new VA, it is a character we already know. Otherwise, there would be no reason to cover his identity, much less tease it like that, cutting off the trailer just as he is removing his hood.
It could also be the Lone Hero or one of Elmas old companions which would also apply to the lone hero.
I think the tease just is there to show the fans which already played X that there is additional Story Content and not still only a Cliffhanger. Makes More sense.
@mattgezockt2596 Absolutely, but I still think the way they are teasing it with removing the hood and cutting it right before we see who it is points me to believe we already know the character.
This is true but we have to remember this tease is now 10 years old so who knows if they changed their minds in the meantime
I think you are way too confident about that. Its just a common trailer tactic to draw you in. Double in this case because its to tease more story content.
My dude, I had actually been thinking it might just Lao. Hearing the Japanese VA comparison definitely reinforces this idea for me. Can't wait to see more XCX content.
Glad I'm not the only one!
Considering he ssems to know Lao. He could be the hero that defeated the ghosts attacking the white whale. Elma's previous partner.
So, like human Lao meeting with mimeosome Lao?
That would be awesome tbh
I love that theory
Can’t wait to watch the Black Knight take off his hood, be stunned by who it is then have the game end again
DON'T JINX IT
Its definitely Dirk and the new story content will just be a comprehensive explanation of Rex's family tree.
Dmitri 8D
Mythras kid???
Would explain the cloak. Inherited from Adam
Won't say I think the black knight is Malos, but I wasn't looking at the screen during the end of the trailer, and I will say my immediate reaction upon hearing "Fancy seeing you here" was "Wait are they adding Malos to this?"
I don't really see how some people are saying the two sound nothing alike
Yeah I don’t think it’s Malos either and honestly probably isn’t even David Menkin but my first reaction was that it sure sounded a lot like him.
Though it’s such a short line it’s probably impossible to be sure who the VA is.
You reaching way to far brother. It's definitely Riku
And I was making it so complicated. It's obvious now
Lao's ending being reanimated
Samus Aran's ending being renimated
Metroid Prime fans got some of this feeling, right?
6:25 I mean, this wouldn’t be the 1st time Matt Mencer talks with himself in a Nintendo game
While I personally think it's Lao (a clone or copy of him, if not the original himself), I'm afraid we all must admit the truth: it's a common variety nopon.
I swear people thinking JP VA's can't voice act is a wild assumption. I'll wait till we get closer to release for some more trailers, but I'm betting on Logos, not Malos.
I’m betting the new voice actor is a relative of Keiji Fujiwara. I know that in Japan companies tend to hire relatives in order to voice characters once a voice actor passes away but so far I haven’t found any information on Keiji Fujiwara’s personal life.
Interesting maybe we should look more into that
Maybe we could search who replaced him in animes he still had a contract on?
I have three theories on who the Black Knight could be:
1. Elma's old friend that saved the White Whale when the Ghosts caught up to them, as mentioned in-game
2. Maybe not Malos specifically, but someone that the Conduit based Malos on. With Elma's appearance changed to resemble Ontos a bit, it may be possible that some researchers on the Conduit had "bonded" with the cores of the Trinity Processor, influencing the forms we see them take in 1 and 2. The Black Knight DOES sound like Dave Menkin here, and this theory also would tie into the "Blades bonding with Drivers" concept of 2
3. It's a J-Body of Lao that the higher-ups had made, possibly to replace Lao after he betrayed humanity. The J-Bodies never got explained further than in Yelv's affinity missions, and that was the prime example of not only cloning but also the memory manipulation that they were doing in secret. They were implanting memories and essentially creating people that never existed before but had full backstories/history; wouldn't surprise me that their J-Body of Lao escaped or something (I also think that Cross is a J-Body too but that's a theory for another day lmao)
I'm now leaning on it being Matt Mercer and that its new Lao lines made to seem its the new character speaking
Guys, that's clearly Dunban over there!
Gunban, dunban with Gun
Or is it Lao over there?
Is this thing on?
I need a dunbetter gun!@@kira516
it become a common practice for xenoblade series: you have main story, but actually you have continuation to it with DLC, that's kind of a second game.
I like were the game is going. We need explanations for how humanity is still alive, and how Lao is there, who is that guy... also ouroboros crystals people are correlating, maybe this is coincidence? 10 years of doubts
Or he could be the ‘unknown hero’ that was mentioned in the introduction and confronted the ganglion before the white whale stranded, he was Elma's acquaintance and the only thing that was known apart from the introduction is that before stranding he pulled Elma out of the skell they were on, but apart from that nothing else is known.
My best guess is based on the following information:
-It's a new voice actor, so a character we haven't heard before
-It's probably a pre-established character, thus the need to hide the face
-they're a male who know who Lao is
Only one pre-established character in X fits all these criteria, and that's the Lone Hero. Now the only way this could be wrong imo is either if they're NOT a pre-established character, or they're a character from outside X. But even then, how many non-voiced important characters exist in the Klaus trilogy? So my best bet is Lone Hero, second place is a so far unknown character.
EDIT: After watching your video, I do think that's possible. It's really tough to tell if the English VAs are the same, however (I'm not really good at picking out distinctions, though, so it could just be me) so I'm not quite sold. One possibility is that the planet itself is like some kind of hyper-advanced lifehold meant to keep endangered species alive, so maybe the planet itself is Origin from Xenoblade 3, who knows?
The VA sounds super familiar to me. As I tried to figure out whom I am reminded of by the Voice I ended up at Matthew Mercer being the closest out of all the ones I could think of. There are a few others that I thought sounded similar but the more I compare those the more I'm sure that they aren't it. Meanwhile I can't not hear the similarity to Matthew Mercer. I am unsure though as there is something that is also ever so slightly different but I have not played X. Why can I differentiate Matthew Mercer voicing Chrom, Ryoma and Shigure while still recognizing it's all him but can't 100% make up my mind here.
I think the simplest explanation is that it's Elma's friend, the unnamed Hero, who everyone thought died above Mira before the White Whale crashed.
In my perspective, the distinct lores of the Klaus saga and X's universe are too different to reconcile them and put them in the same timeline, but you could easily connect them with Conduit multiverse stuff. And I think it's likely the new story will at least touch on that, if not dive into it. I just don't think this character is going to be a full crossover.
I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though...if he's somehow connected to Logos in any way, I'm super interested to see where that goes.
Yeah thats gotta be matt mercer. Im not so sure anymore the black knight could be an alternate logos form, but i do still think logos is directly involved with the lifehold, since origin was created in 3 using data from ontos as the frame work. It makes sense the lifehold would also be based on an aegis in the new trailer lao's eye texture changes to be more natural suggesting this lao is the original biological lao. Meaning the black knight could be using a mimeosome identical to lao. I forget if it was ever confirmed or not, but i think the black knight could likely also be Elma's partner, and the reason he took a lao mim was to go unnoticed, at least til lao became the center of attention and he had to start obscuring himself in the black cloak. Maybe its a logos alter ego hopping into other peoples mims, or maybe logos shows up somewhere totally different, if at all. But pneuma and ontos have already shown that theres nothing impossible about duplicating or splitting aegis'. I just dont think lao himself is a logos persona since lao's whole motivation was his family that got left behind.
It’s the master of master
Xenoblade X Kingdom Hearts confirmed !!
The question is, do we get only a few hours of additional content like XCDE, with Future connected, that added barely 10-20 hours (which would still be good), or do we get something similar to Torna/Future redeemed?
4:39 btw he also voiced Cassidy in overwatch and jack cooper in titanfall 2
Matt Mercer is literally everywhere!
The true black knight was the friends we made along the way
its the pilot of the Vitae!
I need to see the great one
hes obviously master of masters
Misterius figure is another Lao
(Sorry for my bad english)Im have another theories. im test different voice and found 2 possible people for a black cape man, One Is a Yelv, to my video compareted the voice and it s a very similar , the another voice Is a main charter voice Rebel
According to some spculations that Black knight maybe the real human Lao not a mim, hence he wore that black high tech armour body suit, he use to be a hero fighting to protect earth and after earth's destruction he helped the ganglions which the ganglions calling him the great one. And in another theory that Earth is not destroyed rather than it got divided into the Xenoblade 1 and 2 universe as Clause activated the conduit.
I'm 100% subscribed to the idea that they fled when Klaus pressed the button
Honestly, it would be kinda hilarious to just randomly have Malos here. Like, bro just decided to go to a seemingly random location in the multiverse to investigate the results of the "people were thrown into diffrent worlds"-thing(It still seems like a decent assumption that these enigmatic creator people were originally some of the missing people from mainline-earth) and be part of some bigger conflict that originally has nothing to do with him.
But I just don't see how that really does make any sense logically. When exactly was bro traveling the multiverse and seemingly getting to know people? Last time we knew, he spent all his time in Alrest before Xenoblade 2 and is still dead since the end of the game. There is currently not enough connective tissue in the main universe narrative for such a reveal in the X universe to be believable.
Of course, they could just retcon the X universe and mainline universe to be one and the same(bad, plz not) and gloss over the bits and pieces that clash, sorta like how it happened with the 1 to 2/3-transition. Then this entire comment would essencially be outdated because it would automatically render the whole "X is connected on a multiversial basis"-theory obsolete.
And yeah, the "Lao himself"-idea is also kinda dope. I'd much rather have them do that than them trying to retcon more of the series into a mush because they want it connected but are just unwilling to canonize multiversial stuff.
Yeeeeeeeeeah!!!
It literally sounds like David Menkin in the trailer to me but idk if it is him or not
Plot twist: It's Dimitri Yuriev
I could honestly see Dimitri Yuriev being the "great one"
He sounds like Ray Chase. And the new Black Knight design looks like Master of Masters. Kingdom Hearts IV connection confirmed?
See I said that too. He sounds exactly like the Master of Masters but Ray Chase is already in the game as L.
@@mirandagoldstine8548 multiple voice actors can act in the same game if they have a wide enough range, in his case he has amazing range. L sounds nothing like this character for instance, doesn't have many lines, I can believe it.
Isn’t that neuvilette va from genshin impact
Logic Question ... If we never met this character before , why hide his face under a hood ?
Plus we have to remember that this was teases 10 years ago so they had a plan before xb2 already
this happened in xc2 too with Addam, it doesn't have to mean anything
Laos Mobius 4:49
So what you're saying is...
Ganondorf was Isekai'd after the ending of TotK?
xD
Definitely going with the Ganondorf theory now
I understand why some have these theories but i don't think i want X to be connected to mainline and would prefer X to get its own fleshed out worldbuilding and story. Its own saga if you will. Also i don't see Why it needs to connect and why people are obsessed with xenoblade being like trails when its always been more like FF outside Cross cause Xenoblade Cross is its own thing mostly. As long as they don't cheapen the story that is there with unnecessary retcons i don't mind it connecting somehow to the klaus saga games but i would rather we get a Samaarian Saga and see whatever Takahashi can envision the future of X to be at this point given how its probably changed alot since the original scrapped ghost parasite plotline. Also the most likely case currently for the black knight might be him being the lone hero talked about but that would remove cross possibly being the lone hero from the theory list. Hopefully we don't have to wait long for some more info since X really needs some good marketing and deserves a second chance.
@@dave9515 I still see XBX as a different continuation. But I really think it all started at the same point when Klaus pressed the button.
It was connected in the end of Future Redeemed
@@daydreamer.nighthawk Project exodus was referenced, but that was it. And the Project exodus in FR was totally different and not compatible with X's version.
@@MaxM210 you really think they teased Project Exodus right before releasing X DE and it's two different things?
@@daydreamer.nighthawk 1. They also named dropped Dmitri Yuriev and the Philadelphia class motherships, both in contexts they didn't originally exist in.
2. That doesn't debunk what I said. The existence of X DE does not magically change the inherent contradiction between X's exodus and Fr's Exodus, nor does it change the contradiction of X's earth having no orbital rings and being destroyed by an explosion caused by an Alien war, and Blade's Earth having none of any of that.
3. That literally would have always been the case, by Virtue of X being the only one not on Switch. Any reference to X would be noticeable in 3, because by definition the only thing left to put on Switch was X. Nintendo doesn't own Saga or Gears, so they don't have any control over when or of those games return. X is wholly owned by Nintendo,
4. This doesn't debunk that they might connect X to the others in XCXDE, but no direct connect exists until DE does so. Fr made no direct connections, it made references to every other xeno game that may or may not become canon depending on what comes later. That's a very different thing from confirmation, and if there's one thing everyone in this fanbase should have learned by now, its that only fools try insist they know the future with any certainty.
Man Whatever may come from it I just hope that they rework the story to add the work they had originally intended
The Black Knights leg and footwear look similar to Lao in that scene. Hmmmmmmm 👀
Edit: Wow it was in the video 😂
The black knight's JP VA doesn't sound even close to Lao's VA imo, so I don't think he was trying to mimic him.
Xehanort
So will Xenoblade Chronicles x will include a new ending because at the end of the trailer there’s a new scene that was not in the original game
Yes they will add more story after the original ending
It's been a while since I've played X but if I recall, all the real bodies have disappeared at the end of the game, right ?
Could it be that it is someone in Lao's original body ?
Spoilers if you don't wanna know:
Basically the government lied about bringing the bodies. They were abandoned on earth and they only saved their data in the lifehold. Another reason it can't be Laos' real body is because the database is actually wrecked as we see in the end.
I mean.... Why couldn't it be Lao? There's so many ways that it could go. I don't think it's a stretch and obviously they want us to speculate ourselves crazy with that tiny bit of dialogue.
The english VA deffo sounds like Malos.
It’s Demyx
It could his twin brother (don’t take it serious just my theory only)
Obviously he IS The Máster of Masters of Kingdom Hearts and Xenoblade X Will be a world of Kingdom Hearts 4😂😂😂
"us 5" oh there is more than 5 if the TH-cam hype is to be believed 🤣
It’s obviously sora
The voice is 100% Matt Mercer, also look closely at their boots the back knight is now wearing the exact same ones as Lao.