Agreed. Many have written criticizing "labels" as serving Psychs, Rx writers, and lazy armchair psychologists. Label says: "no need to look here anymore". "We know what it's all about." The arrogance and hubris screams from many mouths.
Yesterday I visited Viktor Frankl Museum in Vienna. It was the most astounding epiphany in my life. He states that a person is a compound of a body, a soul and a spirit. The latter is the more important since it's where the pursuit of meaning stems from. Furthermore, he says that the spiritual dimension of a person cannot be transferred by DNA so it's unique to each individual. Since I am a very spiritual person -not in a religious sense- these words struck me quite hard. Being a psychiatrist, he deserves all the credit when he says that doing psychotherapy in most cases turns patients into neurotic people. Going deep into your childhood trauma is quite useless since what someone who doesn't feel well deep inside must do is find a meaning to their existence so they give their life a purpose. It was truly illuminating to me. I am looking forward to read all his books. I guess I should find some contact point with Camus.
Good points made here.. and very important to avoid quashing existential issues with pharmaceutical drugs... but also important to remember that depression is not just one disease but represents a range of different conditions that are also triggered by physical causes such as neuroinflammation from things like chronic toxicity and infection as well as certain nutritional deficiencies. Animals do also get depressed - it is a physiological response to sickness. Important to assess all aspects - physical, psycho-emotional, spiritual, of someone's condition.
@@1134mijoThat's a 200 years old hydraulic view of feelings. Lack of affect is a consequence of emotional exhaustion from the brain having been overworking. Let's not confuse the consequence flatness of affect with a specious cause.The Depressed often have bouts of rage after all. Frankl is right, it's existential.
Dude, you just brought me in a rabbit hole. There is so much to unpack from this short video alone. Me working as a early childhood development specialist, I design a short roadmap for the each specific child for them to "learn" to take responsibility driven by intrinsic motivation, and from that have a solid foundation of self-efficacy. In other words, taking responsibility with gusto to avoid depression and helplessness in adulthood. From this video alone, Im inspired to design a curriculum to shift a helplessness to empowerment. Thank you so much.
Good to remind people about this important book. I'm not in complete agreement with your personal conclusions, but your general point is a good one- sometimes there may be no medical diagnosis at all, only the nature of what it means to be human.
The challenge of living in a 'cultured world' under another's dictates produces much of what we call odd behavior .. meaning behavior not in compliance with the Man. Looking at addiction as a poorly attempted escape route 'mid-game' is another perspective.
Thank you for sharing. The beginning of your speech reminds me of when I was 10 years old. I hated doing chores, so when asked to help out, I would shout, "I never asked to be born!". I did this for about 1 year, until my Mom shouted back, "Nobody ever asked to be born". She had my attention & I then asked, Really? I was so shocked! Up until that point, I honestly thought I was the only person who didn't ask to be born😂.
Thanks for this short straight forward meaningful content. Nothing can enter in my mouth that is toxic getting spitted out then or there or vomiting happens is the way of body systems. But in case of mind the story is different even at rest the mind doesn't rest and small things becomes exponential blooming types is problem of many of us. Now throwing away that undesirable content is the problem and medicines are not the way except what is called pure selfless love is ultimate treatment. We do not love in true scense is the question. Have gone through some videos on Victor Frankel's and this one is pleasant REFRESHING experience. Thaks again.
To the guy who complains about not having asked for any of this; my rebuttal is that merely because he's alive; he can do something about it- but *what* he decides to do, and firmly elects to do himself, is what determines his character as an individual. Yet do not downplay your life as an asset; for with that, what you do is solely on you, and is a measure of your person.
❤mans search for meaning itself isn't very very meaningful to one and all as everyone wants to Express and define oneself. The title itself is fantastic and thanks
9:28 as a general psychology graduated. Which can’t call myself a psychotherapist yet and nor psychiatrist. We were a rare find in psychology major an existentialism approach practitioner.
I personally don't see how an idea similar to "stop ignoring your responsibilities towards the rest of the world" led to confirm an idea similar to "be unapologetically yourself, at any cost". To me they seem contradictory, one is focused outward and the other inward, one is materialism and the other is idealism, one is collectivistic and the other individualistic (therefore one is civilizational and the other is barbaric)
Life is hard. Do what’s best for you. If you want to suffer then suffer. If you want meditation to help you get through your days then that’s ok also. Both take courage
There would be a belief that the in Instant instinct is dealing with Environmental situation. Now people have to understand that what is there environment (jobs, people, cars,thing,relationships,resources and so on it’s not shown to people vs animal where they have Senses to know a inner Compass they listen to. Where people are Taught to Ignore because of new age meanings of life and guidance:
10:06 Everyone submits to the set of laws within a society, and if they don't they get punished. "It's not going to happen" actually it's happening all of the time around the world since civilization. Civilization is not the same as going back to being an animal, quite the opposite. Because civilization is deliberate and conscious, which allows it to transform itself very quickly compared to the millions of years of evolution it takes for beavers to learn new ways to build damns more efficiently. 10:48 Actually you don't have to remove what is not you and embrace what is you. That would be trying to search for meaning exclusively within the psyche of yourself. Something Frankl explicitly argued against, he said meaning is to be found in the world around us and not within ourselves. Find meaning by doing something, having principles (which somehow means appreciating the experience of love/beauty) or through suffering. You don't create meaning, you discover it. And you can't discover it by looking inward, meaning makes itself self evident through your interactions with the world. Which to me means that this is anything but "radical individualism". The individual has no meaning until you consider the context of the experience of everything and everyone else, he's not isolated in any way to the rest of reality. Viktor rejected the trend in psychology of considering humans as machines that seek to maximize pleasure/joy or minimize pain/despair, to me this sounds like he was rejecting individualism in favor of perceiving humans as intelligent creatures superior to animals that above all want to live meaningful lives.
to remain an addict, it's impossible to also become or be responsible. Responsibility is the route out of pretended and actual imprisonment within one's own behavior.
An addict avoids responsibility. An addict CANNOT accept responsibility, because then they will have to admit (at the very least to themselves) that whatever situation they're in is the result of THEIR own decisions, their own actions, and no-one else's. Although we all do this to a certain degree, addicts are particularly prone to doing this, I believe because they cannot handle the pain of knowing they're fallible and that they did NOT choose wisely. I believe addicts also tend to be relatively immature. Perhaps that goes without saying, since they studiously avoid responsibility...???
@jgarciajr82 by definition an addict isn't responsible for their own conduct ... that does not mean they are not accountable, but they certainly are not taking control over their most personal resource: their own body. However, anyone can learn to take on responsibility for any situation, even their recovery. That's where hope becomes possible.
@@kerryaggen6346 I take it you've encountered some level of addiction with others. Trying to understand addiction has been a decades-long endeavor. Perhaps consider saying: "Do not and have not yet" instead of "can not". Saying an addicted person 'Can not' accept responsibility is false. "Will not" = stay away from them. "Do not" = avoid them. "Have not yet" = offer them a sensible way out. They may want to but are struggling. Hope this provides a bit of perspective. You're on the right track, just slightly off true.
@@drugrehabadvisor I understand what you're trying to say here. However, you just commented before my comment that "to remain an addict, it's impossible to also become or be responsible"... So, you're contradicting yourself. I do believe that addicts MIGHT eventually begin to accept responsibility for their behavior and choices, but they have to WANT to, and to begin making better choices. And, THAT is extremely difficult for them, and impossible for many. I've seen examples of both - addicts who did start to accept responsibility and make better choices, and those who absolutely refuse to. Hence, my comment that there is a large degree of immaturity among them.
So, "sane" people just lack of awareness of how difficult life is or just don't care? Ok, then the more stupid the more "happy" you are... Yeah , ignorance is a blessing 🙄
"The Myth of Mental Illness" would be a great book to include in this discussion.
Agreed. Many have written criticizing "labels" as serving Psychs, Rx writers, and lazy armchair psychologists. Label says: "no need to look here anymore". "We know what it's all about." The arrogance and hubris screams from many mouths.
Or better still, Dabrowski ... _"Positive Disintegration"_
Excellent summary of Frankl's work, put in context for our modern world.
Yesterday I visited Viktor Frankl Museum in Vienna. It was the most astounding epiphany in my life. He states that a person is a compound of a body, a soul and a spirit. The latter is the more important since it's where the pursuit of meaning stems from. Furthermore, he says that the spiritual dimension of a person cannot be transferred by DNA so it's unique to each individual. Since I am a very spiritual person -not in a religious sense- these words struck me quite hard. Being a psychiatrist, he deserves all the credit when he says that doing psychotherapy in most cases turns patients into neurotic people. Going deep into your childhood trauma is quite useless since what someone who doesn't feel well deep inside must do is find a meaning to their existence so they give their life a purpose. It was truly illuminating to me. I am looking forward to read all his books. I guess I should find some contact point with Camus.
Great video; very articulate!
Good points made here.. and very important to avoid quashing existential issues with pharmaceutical drugs... but also important to remember that depression is not just one disease but represents a range of different conditions that are also triggered by physical causes such as neuroinflammation from things like chronic toxicity and infection as well as certain nutritional deficiencies. Animals do also get depressed - it is a physiological response to sickness. Important to assess all aspects - physical, psycho-emotional, spiritual, of someone's condition.
Depression is mainly the repression of feelings
@@1134mijoThat's a 200 years old hydraulic view of feelings.
Lack of affect is a consequence of emotional exhaustion from the brain having been overworking. Let's not confuse the consequence flatness of affect with a specious cause.The Depressed often have bouts of rage after all.
Frankl is right, it's existential.
So good.
Dude, you just brought me in a rabbit hole. There is so much to unpack from this short video alone. Me working as a early childhood development specialist, I design a short roadmap for the each specific child for them to "learn" to take responsibility driven by intrinsic motivation, and from that have a solid foundation of self-efficacy. In other words, taking responsibility with gusto to avoid depression and helplessness in adulthood. From this video alone, Im inspired to design a curriculum to shift a helplessness to empowerment. Thank you so much.
Good to remind people about this important book. I'm not in complete agreement with your personal conclusions, but your general point is a good one- sometimes there may be no medical diagnosis at all, only the nature of what it means to be human.
The challenge of living in a 'cultured world' under another's dictates produces much of what we call odd behavior .. meaning behavior not in compliance with the Man. Looking at addiction as a poorly attempted escape route 'mid-game' is another perspective.
Thank you for sharing. The beginning of your speech reminds me of when I was 10 years old. I hated doing chores, so when asked to help out, I would shout, "I never asked to be born!". I did this for about 1 year, until my Mom shouted back, "Nobody ever asked to be born". She had my attention & I then asked, Really? I was so shocked! Up until that point, I honestly thought I was the only person who didn't ask to be born😂.
Great perspective, thank you for sharing!
Great video, I learned a lot. Keeping this to rewatch.
Thanks for this short straight forward meaningful content. Nothing can enter in my mouth that is toxic getting spitted out then or there or vomiting happens is the way of body systems. But in case of mind the story is different even at rest the mind doesn't rest and small things becomes exponential blooming types is problem of many of us. Now throwing away that undesirable content is the problem and medicines are not the way except what is called pure selfless love is ultimate treatment. We do not love in true scense is the question. Have gone through some videos on Victor Frankel's and this one is pleasant REFRESHING experience. Thaks again.
Frankl has been a refreshing respite from a crazy world. Who's to say globalism is just a bigger camp?
Well done Christopher .You must make more videos
Really brilliant, awesome video
To the guy who complains about not having asked for any of this; my rebuttal is that merely because he's alive; he can do something about it- but *what* he decides to do, and firmly elects to do himself, is what determines his character as an individual. Yet do not downplay your life as an asset; for with that, what you do is solely on you, and is a measure of your person.
Great job on this
Great video keep on posting
Thank you
Great video! Gabor Mate is also talking about this a lot. "The Myth of Normal" is a great book I can recommend.
Thanks for the tip, I will keep that in mind. I appreciate the feedback brother much love.
@@ChristopherTA1997 much love to you too!
thanks
❤mans search for meaning itself isn't very very meaningful to one and all as everyone wants to Express and define oneself. The title itself is fantastic and thanks
Courage.
25 years ago, it was acknowledged that there is no chemical imbalance for anti depressants to cure.
9:28 as a general psychology graduated.
Which can’t call myself a psychotherapist yet and nor psychiatrist.
We were a rare find in psychology major an existentialism approach practitioner.
I personally don't see how an idea similar to "stop ignoring your responsibilities towards the rest of the world" led to confirm an idea similar to "be unapologetically yourself, at any cost".
To me they seem contradictory, one is focused outward and the other inward, one is materialism and the other is idealism, one is collectivistic and the other individualistic (therefore one is civilizational and the other is barbaric)
Life is hard. Do what’s best for you. If you want to suffer then suffer. If you want meditation to help you get through your days then that’s ok also. Both take courage
There would be a belief that the in Instant instinct is dealing with Environmental situation. Now people have to understand that what is there environment (jobs, people, cars,thing,relationships,resources and so on it’s not shown to people vs animal where they have Senses to know a inner Compass they listen to. Where people are Taught to Ignore because of new age meanings of life and guidance:
❤️👍super!
10:06
Everyone submits to the set of laws within a society, and if they don't they get punished.
"It's not going to happen" actually it's happening all of the time around the world since civilization.
Civilization is not the same as going back to being an animal, quite the opposite. Because civilization is deliberate and conscious, which allows it to transform itself very quickly compared to the millions of years of evolution it takes for beavers to learn new ways to build damns more efficiently.
10:48
Actually you don't have to remove what is not you and embrace what is you. That would be trying to search for meaning exclusively within the psyche of yourself. Something Frankl explicitly argued against, he said meaning is to be found in the world around us and not within ourselves.
Find meaning by doing something, having principles (which somehow means appreciating the experience of love/beauty) or through suffering.
You don't create meaning, you discover it. And you can't discover it by looking inward, meaning makes itself self evident through your interactions with the world.
Which to me means that this is anything but "radical individualism". The individual has no meaning until you consider the context of the experience of everything and everyone else, he's not isolated in any way to the rest of reality.
Viktor rejected the trend in psychology of considering humans as machines that seek to maximize pleasure/joy or minimize pain/despair, to me this sounds like he was rejecting individualism in favor of perceiving humans as intelligent creatures superior to animals that above all want to live meaningful lives.
Frankl said that if you cant find meaning in creating or appreciating (as was in Auchwitz) it must be found within; by changing attitude
**Uncle Ben line
Some need to learn accountability first. An addict can't be responsible. ❤🙏🏼
to remain an addict, it's impossible to also become or be responsible. Responsibility is the route out of pretended and actual imprisonment within one's own behavior.
An addict avoids responsibility. An addict CANNOT accept responsibility, because then they will have to admit (at the very least to themselves) that whatever situation they're in is the result of THEIR own decisions, their own actions, and no-one else's. Although we all do this to a certain degree, addicts are particularly prone to doing this, I believe because they cannot handle the pain of knowing they're fallible and that they did NOT choose wisely. I believe addicts also tend to be relatively immature. Perhaps that goes without saying, since they studiously avoid responsibility...???
@jgarciajr82 by definition an addict isn't responsible for their own conduct ... that does not mean they are not accountable, but they certainly are not taking control over their most personal resource: their own body. However, anyone can learn to take on responsibility for any situation, even their recovery. That's where hope becomes possible.
@@kerryaggen6346 I take it you've encountered some level of addiction with others. Trying to understand addiction has been a decades-long endeavor. Perhaps consider saying: "Do not and have not yet" instead of "can not". Saying an addicted person 'Can not' accept responsibility is false. "Will not" = stay away from them. "Do not" = avoid them. "Have not yet" = offer them a sensible way out. They may want to but are struggling. Hope this provides a bit of perspective. You're on the right track, just slightly off true.
@@drugrehabadvisor I understand what you're trying to say here. However, you just commented before my comment that "to remain an addict, it's impossible to also become or be responsible"... So, you're contradicting yourself.
I do believe that addicts MIGHT eventually begin to accept responsibility for their behavior and choices, but they have to WANT to, and to begin making better choices. And, THAT is extremely difficult for them, and impossible for many. I've seen examples of both - addicts who did start to accept responsibility and make better choices, and those who absolutely refuse to. Hence, my comment that there is a large degree of immaturity among them.
Really?! Dr. Pom-Pom !
So, "sane" people just lack of awareness of how difficult life is or just don't care? Ok, then the more stupid the more "happy" you are... Yeah , ignorance is a blessing 🙄