The Dark Story Behind Female KPOP Idols Turning To Adult BJ Streaming
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You want to know what is truly a “dark story”…. Idols being over worked for minimal pay just to make netizens happy. Idols do vlive and bubble posts to stay relevant in the field. Companies know that if idols live their own lives, date or marry who and when they want then fans become so crazed and pissed off that the group is then ridiculed, bullied then ignored until they no longer exist. Companies give fans the power to dictate what their groups can and cannot do and this is the real dark side of kpop and its idols.
Very true. That girl sounds like so many other nitzens speaking of the idols as if they are their property. Saying how they spent such and such on them so they should portray themselves in a way that appeases them. But let's be honest that 20,000 won she spent on that postcard didn't go directly to her it went to the company.
I feel like smaller groups in particular are just being pimped out by agencies (not in a way of sexual acts) but in a way where the actual talent barely gets ANYTHING. They work and work and it's for essentially barely anything with nothing to show for it once the company feels as tho pimping them isn't lining their pockets enough so they throw them to the streets. What are they supposed to do? They're already used to the sexualization anyways.
Being a BJ looks like they've made a lot more money than they ever made during their idol days.
Totally agree. Cameras are on the idols almost 24/7 leaving them no privacy. Pimping out the girl groups is what they're doing. They train them young, oversexualize them, dress them in skimpy clothes even in freezing weather, etc. Kpop industry needs to change. Girls can be sexy and classy without doing these suggestive acts and feel that dressing up like XXX stars will gain them more popularity. e.g. Audrey Hepburn is the epitome of chic and classy.
@Elizabeth Chan It's honestly sad at this point. I've seen stage outfits where you see nothing but the security shorts on idols. I mean like what's the point of the skirt? Might as well make the Shorts the bottom at that point. Anything to appease those guys buying 19 CDs, I guess.
I feel bad for a lot of them. Constantly being degraded by their so-called fans. No peace on their days off because the crazies are calling their phone numbers or hunting them and their families down on vacation.
They are body shame them constantly. I feel really bad for the extremely under weight girls, I know their cycles are most likely nonexistent. Most likely going to end up infertile. I swear in 25 years I wanna see how many kpop girl groups that have debuted from 2006 to 2014, have had children. I hope there are some statistics.
@@sukirinaa I'm just 2 years into kpop, a pandemic side effect. The idols look good on stage. But from what I've seen in videos like these, behind the scenes, the industry treats these trainees as slaves. For those who succeed, they are able to start paying off debts before they can enjoy the fruits of their labor. However, they have to forgo their private lives. And they're still single in their late 30s. What you said all rings true. I really feel for these people who want to be in the entertainment industry. Let's hope positive changes come to the industry as more former trainees expose the mistreatment they received.
Thank you *clap* *clap*.
As long as the streamers are consenting adults who are happy with their choice, I’m supportive. As long as they have freedom in their actions, unlike those in the documentary, I’m supportive.
Haha. Trust me. No.
Yea
@@nothanks5162 🤨🤨
@@nothanks5162 Why tho
Exactly... They showed off their bodies on stage too... The difference was corporate men made money off of it. That is why ppl had no issues in it. The woman having the agency of her own body is the problem ppl critisizing idol turned bjs
If there’s one thing I’ve learned about kpop is that even when you debut you don’t necessarily make money unless you’re very popular, so it’s understandable that people choose to do these types of jobs, good on them
Exactly but yet many still try to be a Kpop idol. Even if they manage to debut, they may or may not make any dough...
they even end up in debt which blows my mind!
you should watch webtoon and movie where trainee should compensate with higher up(sexual way) to become a kpop idol
I don't see anything wrong with it. As long as they're happy, safe, and consenting. Financial security and freedom is something most people yearn for, I'm not mad at them for doing what they can to achieve that.
I agre, I personally think that if it provides a income for them and ther doing because they want to what is the problem? Its not like as a idol the working conditions and the wages are any better.
The problem is that BJing in South Korea is very unsafe. The amount of girls who get assaulted and harrased for BJing is insane.
@@itspowers9107 why is it not regulated like any other industry?
@@itspowers9107 Sounds like they are often being harrased and assulted due to peoples bigotry, some of which we've seen here. And that has a lot to do with the way people look at the industry, other than the dangers that might come from exploitation within it. And we that there IS a lot of exploitation of Idols in the KPop industry all the time.
Disgusted
The female idols are taught to be cute and sexy, yet chaste, as trainees. As career progresses they strip away the veneer of chastity. The BJ gig is the final move for a few who decide to take control of the career arc for their own profit and enjoyment. Bravo.
well said
yes. awesome.
The implication that the women are only in control of their career if they decide to exploit their sexuality as they age is pure, unfiltered misogyny. And women agree with OP’s statement. Doomed.
@@GG-kn2se Agree. Is it really consent if these women are forced into it due to their financial situations? Given the rampant abuse existing in these communities, I highly doubt that this is a situation where they are taking control of their bodies.
@@GG-kn2se it's not the only way but it's one of the ways and totally fine if the person is doing it on their own.
Iconic that BJs despite its controversial nature of work is still far successful than most Kpop idols in the industry.
BLACKPINK,BTS,twice,watching this rn:👁👄👁
@@blackpinkandbtsandtwiceand5868 she said most not all, BTS,bp twice are exceptions
@@blackpinkandbtsandtwiceand5868 there are artists who doesn't achieve the level of success such as blackpink bts and twice. Most of kpop group debut's don't make it and disband and most don't even get paid years after their debut like MOMOLAND.
@@blackpinkandbtsandtwiceand5868 no bro cause they r own millions most of them will go on fashion or start a company.also rich idols who r bron rich thay have their life set already.
Less than 10 % of the groups actually become successful.
Its a quite crazy and a little frustrating that Dahee went from ruining her group member's career from trying to blackmail a famous celebrity for money to actually being able to earn a lot of money. I hope she reflected on her wrongdoings and how much she ruined other people's lives (specifically her members) and that she won't do any criminal shit again...
@Judas Iscariot Well said. I agree.
@Judas Iscariot Ahaha, there is a possibility
@Judas Iscariot just like you played Jesus😂🤣🤣
@Judas Iscariot tell that to Jesus
@Judas Iscariot not the judas kinnie speaking
“Dignity doesn’t pay the bills”😂😂😂😂 from now on I’m gonna use this phrase in anything I do lol
You guys r so money minded.
@@Vor567tez ?? Well i dont see you paying my bills? I honesly don't know if this was sarcasm or not but I've met people who fell on their knees for a bag of rice, and i think thats more respectable than judging someones orientation based on a comment
@@Vor567tez what do you mean by that? You need money to survive, who isn’t money minded?
@@makeupbyami08 Yeah, as if I don't know that . It just putting money above everything else is wrong.
@@ruu406 Neither I see u paying mine.
Why not make a better place where people who hv to beg on knees for a bag of rice instead of having to sell their body get work based on their merit?
The comments that "fan" made about somyi is disgusting, going to university does not make someone a better person or more respectable. Most idols are adults with actual lives, do they also think their idol has never engaged in sexual activity and has never once gone on a date?
That’s what bothered me the most tbh. Fans seems to create these parasocial relationships with celebrities and just seem to forget that these celebrities are human beings too. Why did she have to feel ashamed simply because the idol she looked up to became a streamer? Cause it didn’t fit with the illusion she had created in her head? It’s just crazy. Makes me so sad people think this way.
It’s like they know their lifestyle and know what’s it like and what’s going on with their life
@@gunzduh she's not allowed to have an opinion?? She doesn't think highly of afreeca streamers (I don't really either), so she feels ashamed for looking up to this person. Is that really so bad?
@@villeperkkola opinions don’t equal blunt hate.
@@terrelcosmeticssubliminals3112 and her comments were so vicious weren't they? Absolutely filled with hate... saying she feels like she wasted time and money supporting her and that somyi is now wearing revealing clothing and dancing for the oppas in afreeca. If you considere that as hate than I don't know what to tell tou
theres a few idols, actors, and trainees on these platforms and i see no issue as long as they're being safe and not harming themselves or anyone. we support them securing the bag and keeping the lights on. and honestly being a bj is hella stressful since you are a freelancer and need to make sure you're making enough within the month to at least get by. plus sometimes you have supporters who go ghost and its just a lot. i hope those who do enter this sort of career are successful and nothing but the best.
what’s bj?
Something tells me you should watch the video
As long as they are not harmed or they don't harm others, not doing something illegal, people should stop meddling with their lives. Everyone has bills to pay.
Most entertainment companies don't care about their artists. They even let them get sexually harassed and by producers, directors, or anyone they have connections with. There are enough reports and documentaries supporting this.
Yeah.They are the true problem of Kpop.(companies)
It is known that in Korea the sex industry is a very profitable sector and the demand is massive, it is not surprising that many people opt for this type of work, idols are often sold under sexual concepts, it is not so different from being a streamer, you have to act in a certain way to attract the audience.
Not just korea..that industry is profitable in almost every country.
BJ streaming is like OnlyFans. Controversial to some accepted by others. I honestly thought 'BJ' meant "bl*w j*b" I need to wash my mind clean. Lmao
I don't think it's the same as OnlyFans, but more like "Hot Tube" streamers or in some cases IRL streamer on Twitch & TH-cam and there is a fairly big different in my world.
Also I assume that the content streamer & youtubers put on their OnlyFans is lot more adult then dancing in a Dress/outfit, with objectively isn't that different from what you see in a lot of western music videos, movies or fashion magazines.
Anyway I personally think the use of "adult" with this type of streaming is very misleading and no need to wash your mind because it is true that "BJ" do mean something else when we aren't talking about streamers' :-).
I thought the same thing bro your not alone lol
same
Same. Hahah
What does bj mean?
I know I'm being petty but I'm honestly so mad Dahee (or Siwon, whatever you want to call her) is doing so well. She RUINED Glam's career. They had so much potential and were starting to get recognition, and she completely blew it up for the other members. What pisses me off is that despite her wrongdoings, she is doing so much better than the rest of the ex-Glams..
Literally
I thought I was the only one!😭 I felt bad for holding a grudge against her , because I was a glam Stan and she was one of my biases😭 oh well.
She did what she did cause they weren't making any money, so now she is. I understand your frustration but it might be time to let it go. She's living her life and paying her bills.
@@ubergamer2010 still she ruined the dream of the other members. She could’ve left the group and done her scamming and try to ruin an innocent actors livelihood
I miss GLAM so much. I wish they could’ve continued as a trio without her or at least added a new member to replace her. 🥲
When I read “BJ streaming”, I was thinking something else. 😳 I thought, “is that even legal in South Korea?!” 👀
But, even if that was the case, so long as it’s consensual, legal, and they have a decent amount of authority over their work, we shouldn’t think less of them for it.
I thought the same thing at first
I also thought the same
Same, I was all “Um…😳”
Yes and no. Porn is illegal but streaming isn't.... Bj streaming is like a loop hole
I got so curious that’s why I click the video 💀👏
she talked to him like a friend, she talked to him like someone who is working for money lmao he’s weird for being mad
It’s sad knowing some idols couldn’t really afford a living when they were an “idol” hence why they chose this career pathway. It may not seem appropriate but it probably didn’t gave them a choice. People should understand
Nothing is wrong with this career pathway
Or they just really enjoy doing thisn:)
A female idol's career is already so dependent on sex appeal anyway. They are forced to intense diets, dance provocatively as minors, and wear uncomfortably revealing outfits even in winter because their value is so dependent on their beauty. At least this time they do it by consent, as adults, and with profit off their own body. Kudos to them.
@@yoon7217 Honestly, despite popular belief, a lot of sex workers love doing it for themselves.
That’s why they sign up for it and continue to do it, they can leave at anytime. But for a lot of them it’s fun.
@@yellomello6952 If minors dancing 'provocatively' is sexual to you please get some therapy 😊
I think there is nothing wrong with doing those streams and with the topic itself. They can do what ever they want. On one hand we want people, for example women, to be more self-confident, strong and independent, but on the other hand we dont accept the fact that they do what they wanna do. Let them stream in more revealing clothes. Its none of your business.
I like the fact that you talked about it Kookielit but it was very negatively portrait in my opinion. Not everyone who streams on those plattforms is forced to do it and if people want to spend there money on other people for this content its their own decision.
If you lie to somebody just to get their money then of course its bad. Thats common sense.
exactly!!!!
Exept its not really lying tbh its just a bunch of Simps gettin played. These women are not dping anything wrong. Its the ppl sending the money its their choice to do this. And its also them that think they in some kind of relationship with the streamers
@@LittleLightIsaOnce I do not think so. You just excused it to make it seem valid. If the "simps" are the issue then the idols should not be the focus in the first place.
The people sending money aren’t necessarily wrong either. It isn’t the bj’s fault either but it is shocking that they can make so much capitalizing on people’s loneliness and fantasy all while essentially lying or creating a facade
I just hope they're not forcing themselves with becoming a Bj streamer just bcoz they wanna earn money.
There are many other ways to make money. They choose to do this.
@@arusu1806 ok and ??? Whats wrong with it lmao
Its way better then being an idol 💀💀
@@LittleLightIsaOnce this, and they're all adults, as another comment say: if they're happy, consenting and safe then there's nothing wrong with it
@@valerialuna3598 exactly
Stop fighting y'all
It has a similar vibe with Japanese idols that graduate from their group and then continue their career as JAV actress (because it is hard to stay in the spotlight, especially if they were not famous in their previous group, or if the group is not well-known)
What’s JAV actress?
Nowdays becoming a Jav actress can ruin your life unless you are in the 1%. Can watch Nobita from Japan's video: "Japan's poverty among porn actresses".
Japan Adult Video(JAV) Actress
This is reallyyyyyyy negatively portrayed and that’s just sad as hell to me. First off, that documentary did NOT show what it’s like to be a streamer. It showed something completely different and more akin to trafficking. University doesn’t make you a better person than anyone else. You giving a person money and gifts without them confirming that you’re together makes you a simp, not a victim. And if you put idols or anyone else on pedestals when you’re carrying their photos cards ma’am, that’s on you.
Not a fan of this video or it’s tone and I guess maybe I expected better in 2022. It’s unfortunate and beyond me that you chose to emphasize the shame element rather than what could have been a valid theme. DIGNITY DOES NOT PAY THE BILLS.
You want people to lie and glamourise this kind of work to the detriment of women. There is a negative light to this. There is more than one valid opinion people can have. It’s 2022 and you, people like you, are bad for women. “Dignity does not pay the bills” you sound like a groomer.
The netizen who talked about how “embarrassed” she was that somyi was a streamer truly irritated me. Why are THEY the one upset and embarrassed over something somyi chose to do with her own time and body? She doesn’t have to enrol in a university to have value, her promiscuity doesn’t detract from her value. She can be sexual and fully functioning, contributing, valued member of society. I hate misogynists 🥴
Right? Especially that netizen comment about collecting her photo cards. Likes in what world do you think a 20$ photo card is gonna save an idol from debt lol
It’s laughable. She thinks she has a say on Somyi’s life decisions because she was a fan and bought photo cards. Someone tell this clown this ain’t the stock market.
People are so closed minded, even the ‘compliment’ about dignity not paying the bills. Who’s to say she’s sacrificing anything. What dignifies us is a personal experience/conclusion. The stigma around mature media so… childish. I think pitying them is a more undignified thing. Let them work how they prefer and without shame
somyi did a live crying and she was saying horrible things about her and that the company wouldn't let her made lives. i hope that now she can be happy i miss her as a DIA member but i support her now in her new job
I'm an AID and it's sad to see Somyi go. But as long as she's happy on what she's doing, I'm more than happy for her though I really want to see her back on DIA.
@@HOGISIMJAYUN i'm and AID too and yes, i really miss her as a DIA member but now she is happy with her new job so i'm going to support her and defend her
it's been a long time since i watch somyi, i was worried at first when she and chaeyeon doesn't include on their latest comback in 2019, also she looks so depressed back then.. but now I'm glad she's fine, i hope this path would make her happier than being an idol in such a weird agency
Honestly, I would do it to for a check. If I was confident enough, i wouldn’t do it as a lifestyle but in college the money would be great.
And idk let BJs be BJs. People willingly give them money. It’s honestly baffling how much money they make
It’s not surprising some idols do it, they often give up SO much in order to be an idol.
Also, if people are embarrassed to be a fan. Don’t be a fan? When you were a fan she was an idol, not when she was a BJ. Get over it.
I'm neutral about this case as I'm a minor myself
This is a really controversial topic so I hope u don't get hate for making vid on this topic
Anyways stay safe y'all♡
Glam could have been soooo sucessful
They were slowly getting recognition
It's some of the members who ruined it, it's very long I don't remember quite clearly
But their leader went to Unpretty rapster (I think) and wrote it about the members (I think)
It was show me the money. I think. But didn’t pass the round to get in the show. It’s kinda sad cause she’s working a regular job and will never be able to get back into the industry again.
@@ririenko yeah :(
Why do people think idols are actually innocent as if the don't know anything "dirty"? They are normal people too, it's the company that force their innocent image so fans don't leave.
**is ready with popcorn for war in comments**
I too am joining you :v
*joins*:>
Damn just finished eating popcorns now I need to order some..
Lmao i just had popcorns😳😳
How did ya know?💀💀
3d👓🍿
BJ the job that simps will blame the streamer for making them a simp and will want an apology from the streamer because they are now a certified simp
Unfortunately companies and corporations trying to make money off streamers is whats gonna turn into the biggest mess. Which is a problem in many industries not just for BJ's. Somi found her way out of being stuck as a idol not making the money she wants so I don't see any reason her being a bj is a problem. Of course her controlling fans won't let her go without a fight but its the fans job to learn to separate their idols persona from real life. She clearly was not happy in her company so if you want the best for your so called "bias" you should let her be. It's not like she is streaming to her underage fans or anything illegal so they have zero rights to be angry that she found a well paying job.
Somyi from dia I’m happy for her, she was one of my favorite idols of the group. I don’t see an issue with her pursuing an online job such as that. I feel her make that money girl. If I could do a job like that I would right about now. It’s easier than waiting for a pay check and waiting for the money that your saving to grow. While slaving away at work you got taxes, bills and a phone bill and you have to pay for food and gas collecting all that money. People might give her slack for it but maybe she doesn’t mind doing that type of job maybe she thought about it and liked it as a career choice for now. Some people don’t know but sometimes putting on a persona of being sexy or cute is freeing in a way like for example when you dance or put on a favorite pair of heels and walk outside. I’m not saying this like it’s the greatest thing in the world but it’s her life and freedom and her right.
Every last one of them our GROWN ADULTS, they can DO what they want, WHEN they want , and HOW they want with they OWN LIVES💯💯
But, they also have to face the Harsh reality later in their lives.
And must not complain when people called them sl*ts and other things...
@@johnkim6574 no actually these sorts of jobs are dangerous because of people like you. Attacking them, stalking them, harassing them. It will cause trauma to most of these entertainers. They are not sl*ts but I think it’s important to talk about how these jobs affect these woman and that it’s not all empoweringz
@@fdscrl6016 bruh I don't even know these kinds of app exist.
So, you r saying that you are ok with idols being provocative and doing adult stuff!!
@@fdscrl6016 and do you know why I am commenting.
Or u just think I am hating on them.
@@johnkim6574 they're not idols anymore, and they're also all adults. It's not the content that I like or that I would see, but if that's what they want to do it's their problem, no one is forcing them (or at least I hope so) and no one is forcing fans to keep supporting them of they don't want to or don't like what they're doing
So it’s ok if idols are sexualized by others but are outcasted when they choose to do it on their own accord? I- the logic is not there…
U know when something is forbidden ppl tend to want it more and the other way around
They're not just "former kpop idols" though they're also grown ADULTS... Someone help, I'm confused and not really seeing the "controversial" part? Is it bc they are wearing clothes that's "too revealing" according to some k-netizens?...if that's the case it's their body and they can wear whatever they want and feel comfortable with unless the platform itself says otherwise. If they chose bj streaming with a more mature vibe then that is solely up to them, it's their channel. idk maybe I'm missing something here lmao (if I am pls tell me)
Cultural differences probably. Korea is pretty conservative.
they are and there not that open to change(the older people)
but still there is a lot of work to do there
Idols are expected to be squeaky clean.
yes
Let’s be honest these idols get little to no money from their labels. They are ridiculed on a daily basis and sexually objectified no matter what they do. So you guys really think they care about how their old fans feel about this?? Firstly they are grown so they can do as they please. Secondly when it comes to the fan talking about the money she spent on a card….. that money probably didn’t even go into her pocket. Thirdly their getting more money than they ever did and probably ever would from being a K-pop idol. Stop bashing people for trying to make ends meet when that’s all everyone is trying to do. At least they can have some financial stability behind it rather than slaving as a K-pop idol and getting nothing in return. And lastly let’s be honest the same thing that they are doing as a bj they did as a K-pop idol. The only difference is they are doing it in a more obvious way than before.
They living good honestly just flirt a little and make all that don’t even have to get naked like onlyfans. ;-; they living the life
if Theres nothing illegal about what they are doing and are comfortable doing it and earning in the process without all the pressure that comes with being a kpop idol, I say good for them...
Honestly compared to all the bs idols go through barely having control over their lives and bodies this is pretty fine in my opinion as long as they're comfortable and have control over their content, good for them for making income in a safe way.
Consenting adults doing adult things isn't bad as long as it is secure and They like it..its kinda funny people are upset over them performing with revealing clothes even minor idols perform with tiny outfits these days.
But Im not happy that Dahee is doing fine after what she did.
The entitlement of that Somyi fan mentioning they spent money on her photo card only to be disappointed. Like boo-hoo I'm sorry that your childhood feels violated because someone needs to feed themselves or their family.
Live streamers, BJs (really hehe), who don't use an agency are in more control of their lives. They work and eat when they want. Unfortunately, it doesn't take long before some lazy ass predators' hone in on easy money.
Love your channel, always very informative and fair.
So... people are hating on Somyi because she sings and dances in short dresses in front of an audience? that already sounds like kpop to me. 🤷♂️
Damn man you SPILLED
FAXX
I love your videos so much.
I respect those that do their job or work passionately. As long as their okay and not hurting others 👍
What they do with their life, as long as it's not hurting others, is no one's business but their own. Too many people feel comfortable thinking they have a say just because they happen to buy merch or support the idol.
G.O is right. It's the individual on the stream. Sadly! The idol early life is very hard and unless the group has a breakthrough. They will never make enough money bec the company. Wow! The girl used to be from Crayon pop right. She was very flirty then too. Can believe the girl that scam B.H now are big deal as a B.J? Glam was good and could be big if not for her. She was prettier then now so much surgeries.
One thing I find sad abt this is that they had spent some years into training to debut and it's not even a guarantee their career will take off from there and worst they don't even get paid enough as an idol. I really hope there's some sort of protection for them, kpop has become one of SK's biggest industry. There should be some law to make sure idols are paid enough or that they aren't overworked. Also the fact that they're now debuting younger and younger idols w/c is very concerning
Dahee looks UNRECOGNISABLE. WOW!
They need to make quick money and still be in the entertainers. They were likely broke for years as idols. I really don't blame them.
It’s absolutely their choice and nothing wrong with this. Why are people judging so hard? Let people live!!!
Also, they can't just take regular jobs because people could recognize them making it unsafe for them and their family/friends. I think this is a safer choice and also earns them good financial stability.
I’m not from korea and I don’t know too much abt the culture, but from what I’ve observed so far, most of the people who are k-pop idols or training do be one have to put their whole future on that gamble. They spend most of their time training to debut, and if they make it then great, but if they don’t then there’s not much of a backup plan bc they have to pay for the training too.
It seems as if it’s a cycle where it’s really hard to get out of since most idols spend all their younger years within or preparing for that industry rather than a career somewhere else, which makes it really hard to change careers or study for one when you’re in your thirties. It also doesn’t help that the companies don’t fully support their idols. Whenever there’s a scandal or smtn against one of their members, most companies avoid or blacklist that person from activities rather than defending and supporting them. Unless you make it really big and become one of the few groups who succeed, it seems really hard to earn a lot for the amount of time spent.
People are quick to shame others to make themselves feel high and mighty. Yet they are here watching them based on their, "impulsive" behaviors.
Not all idols come from wealthy families and/or lucky enough to join prosper companies.
When the groups have no activity and the contracts are over, they should continue to survive.
Entering spotlights again is not easy when you're independent so some of them will do odd jobs like BJ streaming, waitressing or delivery service.
I'm just glad they manage to live well and have other career options. This video sounds like more of a good news to me.
Financial freedom is what most of the people are looking for including me and you , so I don't think we should or have right to judge someone else in that matter.
So basically BJ streamers are korean twitch streamers
They use twitch a lot there too, but I think people see twitch more as a gaming type of platform compared to afreecatv which is more diverse in what people do
@@staciii Funny cuz Twitch just went through the "Hot Tub Meta" last year.
hello! I love you videos so much. Hope you stay safe. You are quite brave to make this kind of videos because it is quite controversial:) stay healthy! Sending lots of love from Singapore
It's super sad that the girl from DIA thought that was the only alternative. She could have started to prepare for the university exam to go to university whilst doing regular non-explicit broadcasts :(
lmao let her do what she wants. as if going back to school is cheaper than doing adult broadcasting. get a grip, she's making dough and girl bossing.
@@SteveisCool I would agree with you but it's not like she's 30, she's only 22....
@@SteveisCool “making dough and girl bossing” interesting 🧐
@@tulip3172 So she’s taking advantage of her youth to supply income for herself? P smart.
@@blacklungsanji3 ?
Somyi is probably making more money now than when she was in Dia
people who say "as long as it makes them happy" or they're a girlboss and telling them to take that money thinking they are "supporting woman's rights" when in fact they are showing their body on a site that exploits women for the pleasure of misogynistic men how is that feminism to you? no money can fix how broken you feel after these streams. and stop pretending like you care. you never cared for them when they were idols.
I personally think the use of "adult" with this type of streaming is very misleading.
Anyway I should properly stop clicking on this and similar channels video's, because the majority of them are very badly research, generalizing, lack nuanced and often helps spread misinformation.
i mean kpop idols are underpaid.
They aren't underpaid, they are not paid at all
@@Written_in_the_Starss dude, Mitra was agreeing with you...
@@allons_y1001 Sorry it's 1am here...I read it the wrong way.. Sorry. Anywaysthanks
some ppl in the comments are so backhanded, they're grown adults and made their decision.
"omg what their children gets their mum's suggestive photos/videos used against them?"
they don't just say "hey this streamer is my mum"
even my classmates doesn't know who my mum is, neither do i know theirs.
they just like making up hypothetical scenarios...
Grind is Grind, as long as they never hurt or scam people it's all good and people need to respect it..
*Hopefully they are not forced to do so......and they are happy.*
If this is what they choose then I don't see how this is dark. As long as it is something they truely want to do. But I can't deny that it could be a last resort job and of such cases I hope they can find something more sutible that makes them happy
What is it, honestly, that makes Netz think they should tell another adult to stop doing what they want? Who cares if someone like Somyi is on PandaTV? That’s HER choice, she’s in the privacy of her own surroundings, not some red light district. KPop companies do such damage to the idols with the dating bans, faux innocent personalities and all the other shady crap, so they are, truly, the culprits. Just because someone buys a photo card for twenty bucks in high school doesn’t mean they have the right to tell another adult how to live. 😵💫🤬
As Idols they are overscheduled, underpaid, and on social media often over exposed. No wonder when they get out that this is all they can find to do when they don't have a successful group or company willing to back them, or provide some other kind of gainful employment which many don't seem to have.
as long as they’re happy i’m honestly happy for them too
As a DIA's fan since watching them in the Unit, Somyi did surprised me. Maybe bcs she used to be the cute maknae in DIA but then again, it's her choice and the Monsta X guy opinion, I agree though
6:50 people thinking like this are so messed up (: like she is doing what she wants and seeing her happy is a problem for u!
i can’t be the only one that thought this was something else at first 😭😭😭
You are not
No! 😂 Now I can't decide if the acronym is terrible or genius!
I definetly didnt thought about broadcast jockey when i read the title...
K-pop is so conservative, lol I’m America soooo many celebrities have only fans and that is waaaay more explicit. They’re get scrutinized just for sexy dancing fully clothed? The contrast is so stark compared to us here in the west.
re: the last case, they will sexualize these girls all throughout their idol career, but the moment they are older and can take their sexuality into their own hands and present it in whatever way they like, they have an issue. how are the basic requirements for being an idol really much different to what they do as bjs? they're still performing, entertaining, etc. except now they're not underpaid children stuck in inhuman contracts.
I think they all should do what they want, it’s their life after all and I see nothing wrong with being a BJ. They earn their money fair and square and just because SK has a big problem with misogyny and prejudice against jobs like this doesn‘t mean that what these girls do is wrong. It‘s honest work and should be respected. ❤️
No
Why would everyone prefer to make an independent, free and lucrative career instead of being in a company that mistreat, over work, underpay and fiscally and mentally abuse you?
Why would everyone choose to be a free artist instead of a slave? And earn more money on the way?
Crayon pop wasn’t paid for 1 and a half years. When they got their fists salary they have to payback banks and pay their debt with the company. Idols have to pay for they training time, their promo and their production.
It shocks me how the government of Korea let all of this happen. It’s literally slavery.
I dont understand today topic but bcz of your vedios i get know alot about idols
Ffs, people saying those things About Sonmi is disgusting. No-one should receive that backlash, specially for something so harmless. It's entertainment, and if that audience is treating her better than the kpop industry, people should be ashamed of the slave-like contracts of the music industry, not their bias turning a new leaf and pursuing streaming
Well is it really surprising? It can be good money if you look good (which almost all idols do) and show a little skin (especially for woman). Basically a lot of young people do it.
I just hope they are mentally stable enough to handle harsh comments from unknown people
I agree with Mblaq member, is not the platform problem or aproach is the individual act. If this former idols feel like this is the route they want to take in their life well is their choice. Personally I believe you can create a fun different unique content on any platform, it all rest in how and what do you want to be for life. Yes money is essencial in life, but at what coast.
With dahee's case, she completed her sentence and now working so i don't think it's problematic. She made wrong decisions to earn quick money. Now, when I look at her, she is unrecognisable, with the amount of plastic surgery she went through she spent a lot of money.
A lot of you guys are saying that its ok if idols leave their k-idol life behind them and just do online livestreaming for a living (which is ok as long as the idol is happy :) but its really the those selfish netizens out there who take these idols for granted when they are LITERALLY WORKING THEIR ASSES OFF just for our happiness...
most idols go to performing arts schools and after they graduate they don't pursue any other courses at uni so they don't have the knowledge and skills to work in other fields so they can only turn to becoming streamers
As an “easy” way to make money? That’s an unfortunate choice of words.
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Training to be an idol prepares them well for this field of work.
I'm an A+ so it was really nice to see G.O being able to manage his own career and life.
who cares if idols change their career
Wow. I never thought someone I know of would be in this vid. So surprised with Ellin. I liked her chemistry with V but he wasn’t having her. Who knew she’d be doing this romance scam.
Somyi was mistreated by her agency, she was force to leave instagram by her manager bcoz she went live on ig..
Early 😁
😩 Ellin was my fave Crayon Pop member.
The audacity of that fan thinking she can dictate how Somyi do her life just because she bought the 20.000 KRW photocard? Lol. Even the 1 mil KRW guy don't even want a refund
I really can’t see the difference between panda tv and vlive! Both streaming apps where idols do things they don’t want to
4:27 Isn't Lee Byung Hun involved in a recent scandal where he attempted to sleep with an actress while married and gave a lot of attitude problems on set?
Love these supportive comments!!!!! But they could have picked another name besides BJ...
Somyi always had people calling her ugly, bad singers and others type of bullying so those people saying that she could have a good career after DIA are just people who want to control her life like they do with other idols, because of the malicious comments about Somyi she even made a live on instagram saying that she had taken strong meds and was wanting to end her life. I know she have fans and I'm one of them but we're not enough to surpass the haters she had in the past, it would only make her feel worst and do something bad. If for her it was the best thing to her mental health than we shouldn't criticize that!
I would too if I were an idol. It’s probably way easier and makes them more money. Being an idol might make you hate pursing music. At least for some