Dragon’s Dogma 2 vs Skyrim | Asmongold Reacts
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Dude I was fighting a horde of goblins when a gryphon showed up. We killed the goblins then focused the gryph. My thief planeted a Powder Charge on its head and jumped off, and while I was charging that massive overhead slam with a hammer (as Warrior), the gryph leaped into the air to flee... and at the exact same moment, my hammer connected, and he reeled backwards in the air, then the thief detonated his bomb on its head, and it got knocked out and hurtled backwards through the air... right into the river, and died insatntly to the Brine. Fucking crazy moment!
I love the crazy moments you get in this game
The amazing thing about this game is every fucking Scenario sounds super made up but it's just how the game is played
My first drake encounter, the drake decided to go for a swim and the brine took it xD
I hope you clipped that cause it sounds insane 🤣
Lol hell yeah! Crazy moments like this are great, was fighting an ogre and it was almost dead, then I heard a griffin screech and it divebombed me... near the water. And it fucking drowned, I got XP from the ogre and griffin, it was great
I thought the dragons were amazing to fight in Skyrim until I played damn near any other game with dragon fights 💀
They are cool when they are novel, but then you realise that dragons are just another chore that presents zero danger.
i mean the game is like 100 years old or something
Especially Fatalis in Monster Hunter World, imho it's the best dragon fight ever
@@wahtari2994 dragons dogma 1 literally came out 1 year after skyrim. it still blows skyrim out of the water so that's not an excuse
@@BadEnd98 Oooh im looking forward to wilds.
Ah yes, good old IGN comparing every new game to either Skyrim or Dark Souls
Fyi skyrim vs dragons dogma gameplay. Dragons dogma still win in gameplay
back to their roots
@@mray1072 yeah but Skyrim is like a true sandbox world where you can literally roleplay as anything
I mean they’re right to do so, dark souls created an entire lineage of copycats and skyrim is arguably to this day still one of the best open world experiences in gaming
You mean modded Skyrim....(that's literally the only advantage that Skyrim has, Skyrim vanilla is overrated... BIG TIME)@@angryvaultguy
Someone said DD2s open world feels like the world you read about from the books in Skyrim lol
"DD2 is like the dark souls of Skyrim"
- IGN probably
And why is it wrong?
@@anonymousinfinido2540 you and IGN must share the one neuron you guys have
@@shiraisan3779 Insulting me isnt gonna do anything.
@@shiraisan3779 I mean that statement is a bit of a hyperbole, but BBI really kicked your a** 😂 full souls like.
@@shiraisan3779 don't compare me with video game journalist.
This is the re5 is racist guy.
Wait wtf?
lol, yeah he sounded like a jerk, hate his queens english as well 😣😣
Really? Damn, well that explains everything
Same with the Asian girl with the purple hair. She's a beach.
@@MorrisWilsonFvcksa beach, are you sure 😂
I knew DD2 wouldn’t make it a week without being called a soulslike or Skyrim clone 🤦🏽♂️ People genuinely do not think for themselves anymore
the game is garbage
@@arustyitalianhairyasscheek5305 We get it you didn't play it and are mad because it's a CPU bottleneck on PC so your 4090 can't run it well your friend plays fine on a 1080.
But you don't have to tell us every comment hope they patch it and you can play.
Don't forget about the NPCs that say DD2 is a literal 1 to 1 copy of DD1 lol
@@bobdole3804 Lmfaoooo so true :')
Combat immediately reminded me of Skyrim it felt that dated, seem to be in the minority but feel deeply disappointed at dd2
I had a moment I won't forget in DD2. Pawn warns me about a cliff. I spent the next few minutes getting down safely. Then the same pawn who warned me face planted and was down.
All I could think was hey pawn that cliff is steep be careful lol
😂
Skyrim got one thing that 95% of others game dont have, a huge modding support community. Something only a few games like GTA V and Sims could be objectively compared too. Its also why I bought a PC.
Yeah, I just picked up again modding Skyrim after a while. Lol
There is a few mods for dragon's dogma 1 but definitely not as much as Elder Scrolls. I don't think it was a very well-known game at the time.
The Mods are the only reason skyrim is still relevant. Even after 13 years, just use Nolvus Ascension mod pack and u will experience a whole new game with whole new worlds and questlines like vigiliant.
@@ZazeH Exactly. With a few mods you can get a full length playthrough, without ever touching any of the original main questlines.
The vast majority of people playing Skyrim are the silent majority with no mods.
There’s a reason why vanilla skyrim was vastly more popular than dragons dogma. Vanilla Skyrim had good aspects all around (more interesting World, more impactful leveling, ability to do quick movements, the best game soundtrack of all time)
Meanwhile, dragons dogma had better combat but mediocre everything else with an uninspired world.
"This Game Is A 9.5"
Also him : dragon?s dogshit 2
Brainrot
Yea it’s weird lol if the performance issues and micros weren’t there it would be a good 9.5 but it’s more of a 7.5 till they fix the performance at least
performance is great... on console.
Ah yes. 30fps in 2024. That is totally what I would call great. Copium 🤣@@TheHolyBible-sz7um
@@wallflowerdannot really lol
Skyrim is a prime example where a game can thrive with just exploration, ambience, and lore
That said the game is objectively ass gameplay wise
No truer words have ever been spoken. Couldn't have put it any better myself. And this is coming from a dude that has probably at least 2,000 in Skyrim across multiple accounts and platforms.
That's why I refuse to play skyrim without combat overhauls..... that said I can never get my game to work after so I just give up lmao.
mechanically, it sucks ass, but the sheer number of weapons, spells and shouts more than made up for it back in the day... The ambience(Jeremy Soule's soundtrack is 11/10) and the grandeur of the game is what all I wish to experience again, man
Most weapons work the same way and is shitty as fuck, most spells are dumbed down from Oblivion. Shouts were the only fun thing. I got so bored in Skyrim after doing a few quests because the combat is just dogshit. @@ashishbarthwal6961
Skyrim also came out 13 years ago I don't know why they are being compared
Dragon's Dogma 2 is a very specific niche of game perfected and it does it so fucking well
And I love it for it. What you get from DD2 is something that truly is difficult to find anywhere else
Yeah I love it as well, no matter how many people dislike it 😂
i wouldn’t say perfected, there are many valid issues brought up even by the biggest fanboys of the game (lack of enemy variety, gear, weird spawns, fast travel etc.)
@@slick3996 sure, but fast travel ?
@@slick3996 If they are saying there should be no fast travel at all then yes. If they say they need more then disregard it. they are not fans nor do they understand the point of this game.
I’m considering buying Dragon Dogma 2. Can you explain in more detail what’s the niche of the game that you can’t find anywhere? What makes dragon’s dogma special?
Best words ever, been saying it for ages myself, "Just play the game, enjoy the game, stop trying to finish it." Perfect.
yes, this is the Modern way of Playing the game.
Games nowadays are immersive enough to the point that your mind can Believe it.
i often feels like i'm exist in the world, it's no longer a pixel on the screen like previous Gen game.
it's like i'm actually having an Adventure, a very fun adventure.
and not playing a make believe, trying to fool my mind
into believing Lowpoly rock is a real rock anymore
I have a friend who i play games with and its hard to play with him, trying to play a survival crafting game and he will watch a video and where all the best stuff is and meta of building. So instead of just playing the game and having fun you end up speeding running for the best gear/equipment and only build in a certain way and its so fucking boring
Everything about this game from the camp attacks if you try to cycle days to power level, to the one save so you can't save scum out of wiping a town is trying to stop you from meta-gaming it to death and get you to actually play it.
The game isn't that hard every vocation can become completely broken they want you to just enjoy the ride.
@@RyanRoberts-qf5et yup. Modern gamers sadly. Huge reason to that too. Gaming became popular. So all the idiots who would just go play do some sport activity or get drunk every other day, is now a gamer.
Nobody sits down to enjoy anything anymore. Everybody is in a rush. Everybody wants to be the one everyone is in awe for. Everyone wants to be a pro. Everyone wants to be a content creator.
Everybody wants everything easy now. (Im using the word everybody loosely but you get the point.) I started playing Conan recently and everyone in pvp uses the same 3 armor combinations and the same 3 weapons. Its boring.
CoD? Everyone using the fastest ttk gun. And devs instead of balancing it so every gun has some form of chance depending on the situation, they just leave it as is.
Covid 19 really made these weirdos come in and kill gaming.
@@deustauries yup that's basically how it is, we were playing the forest, the first one not the second..he built the base in a certain way where it's pretty much invincible (which he watched on youtube) and within the first 30 minutes he ran to get the sword and did the story within the other hour. We literally had nothing to do, no point exploring because he knew where everything was and already grabbed them because he watched a video where they're all located, he built the base in a certain way as seen on a video so we couldn't even enjoy building a cool compound and see how many days we survived, he recently got Into wow and wanted me to make a new character to play with him and he was always like 5 quests I front of me because I'm actually reading the story for the main quests..his first expereince playing it was grinding dungeons to max level then googling his build and armor and rotations of abilities, his first time playing the game and he hasn't even experienced the game in its slightest. It's always a rush for end game. He tried to play eso with me once, he skipped all introduction cutscenes..spoke to a guy that gives a side quest to fetch something to give to the quest giver to then meet him somewhere to carry it on, he didn't know why he had to meet up with him after handing in the quest because he didn't read shit.shut.. said he was bored, quit and never played again
This is how older games were like Ultima Online and even WoW, play the game and enjoy it and not try to "beat" it. It was a gaming experience. People try to min/max and speed run every game anymore. It's sad to me. I thoroughly enjoy exploring every nook and cranny I can find in a game and taking my time.
Same, I dread the moment when I complete DD2. Wish Capcom would just keep adding more and more lands to explore. Especially a bigger elf city or land area would be my favorite.
Agree, I wish DD2 had more lore elements like books and more temples/ruins with a small history behind. So that you want to explore everything.
Agreed! I cant stand speedrunning! Some like it but to me honestly it ruins a game. I dont want to speedrun. I want to enjoy the ethos, the atmosphere. And really get into the game story and characters.
As someone who bought Skyrim on release day and played over 10k hours which is small fries compared to some. Dragons dogma combat just feels more weighty and have tons of options for how to approach the battle. The spells are varied enough to where I don't feel like I'm spamming the same 2 spells over and over. Skyrim is carried heavily by mods after the first 1k hours which isn't a bad thing but gamers shouldn't have to expect the community to fix major game breaking bugs.
10k hours? That's fucking nuts
10k in a single player game like skyrim wtf.
dude did every single quest like 1000 time and playing literally every mod that exist, probably even played mod from the future that had yet to exist at this point.
let be honest most review on steam that have 10k+ hour in a random single player game are afk 24h a day just to boost their number (yes this is a thing that people do) not saying they all do that, i mean myself i have 7k hour in POE, over 5k in wow and 8k on osrs/rs3 but these are multiplayer game that get new content every now and then.
@@jasonfortin773 Yea I just gamed a ton back then to the point of no lifing. I have lots of games around the 500-2000 hour area. Unfortunately even with mods now skyrim just feels bland to me since I know how all the quests work and can walk around the map blindfolded. But when it first came out it really captured me.
All games should only be judged on the first 1k of play hours.
Anything after that is such a small minority people that is negligible
@@Giggles4692 I mean usually most people aren't even going to play 1k honestly. Unless it's a mmo because those are just time sinks.
The magic and staying power of Skyrim can be summed up in one word: Mods.
Skyrim is not a video game. It’s a fckn video game engine
True... Bethesda essentially gave us a sandbox filled with tools... And then let us build our own castles .
The magic is baseline, and modding wouldn't work on a shit game. That is why fallout series is not as big as skyrim and why starfield modding is very small. You have to love the game, to work for free and make mods to add to it.
Bad games need mods to be good.
@@rickycool6083 I believe it has to do with the timeline. There were tons of people asking "What if I could" for stuff like no loading screens, flora overhaul and more followers during the time. Modders stuck to Skyrim despite of the Fallout 4 hype probably because Skyrim is just way better than the Fallout series except New Vegas.
In dragons dogma 1 they had drakes, dragons, wyrms, and wyverns. They did it correctly with the right differences as well. Also had bitterblack isle and that hole in the ground that goes almost forever. Dragons dogma 2 is awesome but number one had more enemies i think.
Yes. But there are not much variety in most of the DD1 base game, though. Bitterblack Isle DLC on the other hand, introduce a whole new bunch of monsters into the game, not to mention the difference types of enemies spawning between pre-Daimon and post-Daimon.
Hopefully theres BBI like equivalent in dragons dogma 2
BBI added a ton of content to DD1, so it's a little unfair.
BBI didn’t come along for years after release. So you can’t use that part of DD1 to compare it to DD2 until DLC is released.
The only big enemy i really miss is the hydra. It was my favourite to fight in the first game. i was really hoping they would bring them back with a slightly new moveset, hopefully they will make dlc for the game.
I have been playing DD2 for about 20 hours now and I think I’ve done only 3 main quests I’ve been exploring this whole time and I’m loving it.
Same the world is to distracting compared to the story lol it’s a great game
Me too! I literally stood and watched the fiddle performance at the Inn just taking the vibes. Also, turning off BGM sometimes and just walking by fields or cliffs appreciating the views. This game is so good.
I got lost for 4 hours..cause I followed a pawn. I found a drake, a castle, and a sphinx! I was distracted so long I forgot I was questing...and the quest wasn't even near me.
Sure, let's compare apples to pumpkins...sounds legit.
nope more like banans to cucumbers😅😅
It's more like comparing diced watermelon cubes in plastic containers you find at the grocery store versus cutting open a fresh watermelon to eat yourself
It's no secret that Skyrim's combat is pretty awful. Back then, it was a marvel, but compared to how most AAA ARPG's handle the combat system (GoW, FF16, DMC5, The Witcher 3, Dragon's Dogma 2), Skyrim's could have been much better.
Hell, almost every skyrim modder downloads the combat overhaul mod because it's just way better than the stale stick swinging vanilla Skyrim has to offer.
Are you incapable of seeing the similarity and differences between the two games series? We compare games all the time. There is nothing wrong with that.
Do you not compare foods?
@@bukojoetheslapsoils8273pumpkins don't remind me of apples.
I still play Skyrim to this day, with Nolvus, a mod pack of over 2000 mods that transform Skyrim into a modern game, even over 12 years after its release.
Masterpiece.
Same.
this is madness
@@arnauddelaclos3221 no trust me, Nolvus is a rlly good modpack. Makes the game pretty much look like it came out last year or smth
is Nolvus modpack on PC only? Or is it on playstation too. I wanna try it!
The best part is: There are literally no cutscenes in Skyrim. The story is told in realtime player interactions.
I'm playing Skyrim right now as this vid popped up haha. Yeah if you lay down a world that has a lot of mechanics simply interacting with each other and you drop a player in there to experience it at their own pace, they make their own adventure and share it with others to make a community, and a community will make more content for each other building up onto that base world. If DD2 supports community mods and content, it already has the base to grow into what Skyrim became even if right now is not there yet.
DD2 has anticheat and denuvo. No mods. Only one save. Also why its getting terrible reviews
DD2 has potential. Capcom is keeping it back is the issue. It will never reach levels of Skyrim.
FYI capcom dislikes mods and DD2 has denuvo as the other guys have said. It will never get the same ammount of support as skyrim sadly.
@@TheWretchedEgg12 it doesnt have anti cheat, it has anti tamper
Dragons dogma 2 will never be as good as skyrim shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence this be real
Wait why is he comparing DD2 to skyrim like its trying to copy it? Also "its quest design is only half as good" as Skyrims? Skyrims design is todd(lers) first quest
I hope they port BBi later on just for novelty. It's a really fun dungeon.
They'd have to tweak it a good bit. BBI was meant to be played with as broken a character build as possible. With the way DD2 is designed, it just wouldn't work the same. Honestly though, I rather them do something new instead of bringing back BBI.
The dragons, griffins, cyclops, trolls, they all spawn in the same areas after a day or 2. However griffins and dragons have certain requirements so that they land. For griffins you either have to be close OR if there's OXs near by, kill the OXes and the griffin will fly down.
The Griffins still land in places even if none of those requirements are met.
@levisorenson7873 I said if you were close to them. Otherwise they need to feed on the oxs.
There are no trolls in DD1
There's ogres tho
Don't know where you fought a troll.
@@ugn154 ya ogres
Most of this stuff was in Dragons Dogma 1. It didn't take inspiration from Skyrim, Breath of the Wild, or Elden Ring.
Dragons Dogma 1 came after Skyrim
@@Kings_Crossing Ah yes, a game that was planned, designed and developed all in a single year or less
@surtoz227 If you're implying that Dragons Dogma has any mechanical resemblance to Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowwind or Oblivion aside from base RPG tropes then please explain the similarities, if anything it's closer to the Ultima series.
The Elder Scrolls did not invent RPG mechanics, and the whole comparison the IGN video makes is based on Dragons crashing down etc.
I love Morrowwind and Oblivion and they're some of my favourite games to be clear but implying that they're genre defining and that every other game copies their base gameplay loop or that it was invented by Bethesda is entirely incorrect.
My only complaint about Dragons Dogma 2 Drake(dragon) fight is that once they are on their 3rd health bar. They start spamming “meteor” spells.
That shit is so annoying
Mystic spearhands damage immunity beg to differ
skill issue 😊
True that sh*t is so annoying
I've cornered a beast & it won't let me kill it with ease.
What I love the most about Skyrim is the same thing that ruins a lot of open world RPGs for me. It's the ability to switch pov. You notice it especially with modded Skyrim. The immersion you get with first person is second to none but the advanced combat is really difficult to do or appreciate without third person.
Oblivion said “wouldn’t this be cool?” And Skyrim said “ yes it would let’s make it perfect”
Imagine a necromancer in dragons dogma universe raising dead cyclops armies and stuff would be so awesome
You're the necromancer though xd but the thing you resurrect are the pawns
There actually was in Dark Arisen DLC
@@Shocknfunk really ? I played that but don’t remember I do remember the grim reaper though
@@natevoid9955Yeah about halfway/ 2/3 of the way through BBI, you fight the Lich Cardinal who fights alongside an immortal undead dragon.
@@axolotl3883 even the dude you fight with the power ring that grants haste to spells was a necromancer
I'm literally playing Skyrim right now as I watch this.
As much as I hate how the controls feel in DD2, the clumsiness contributes to the combat's vibe, and I love that. Yet, the number of monster encounters adds to the lack of variety and makes the minor combats repetitive and forgettable.
That depends on how far you are in the game just go to the wiki page there's way more creatures than you think
@@horaceharris1855 "If you enjoy Wolves, and Red Wolves, just wait until you find a small pack of Wargs bodying a Cyclops"
Creating experiences you remember is exactly why RPGs are so great. I am loving this game.
I rarely experienced random dragons dropping down from the sky in dragons dogma 2 - Ogres and Cyclops is whats spawning most. So Skyrim still wins that dragon-spawning award by far.
"skyrim skyrim skyrim elden ring breath of the wild skyrim skyrim"
do these people play any games at all? DD1 is older than any of these titles
Skyrim is the oldest out of these games. DD1 was released a year after Skyrim.
Dragon's Dogma came out a year after Skyrim
Skyrim came out 6 months before DD1. But I do agree, IGN sucks.
DD1 one is newer actually, and Skyrim is much better, DD1 is not even close
Yeah, no. You're wrong. Skyrim 2011, Dragons Dogma 2012.
I really enjoyed the sections where you had to break into the palace and jail. It added so much to DD2 that i was not expecting. Short, sweet little story beats like that were needed
Skyrim’s soundtrack alone is fucking godlike
Yeah nobody can crap on the soundtrack
Jeremy Soule!
Best Soundtrack in my opinion.
Jeremy Soule, the guy who compared piracy to the holocaust.
Have the trailer DLd so I can watch it whenever I want. Up there with the H3/ODST and Reach trailers
I was casually walking to a village yesterday when a beast i can only describe as the gruffello decided to silently 2- foot me into a boulder, killing me instantly.
It was hilarious, and amazing!
So of the quests bring me into the lore in ways i rarely have since skyrim.
The games awesome
its amaysing to think how popular skyrim "was" like people dont go right back to the game ever 1 or 2 years to re complete the thing
Wait for DLC....Wyverns and Wyrms coming to join the team
This take is kinda cringe actually, not every fucking modern rpg with dragons in it HAS to be inspired by Skyrim.
Dragon's Dogma 1 came out the very same year as Skyrim........ and DD2 is just a remake of DD1 in many ways, heck in some ways it even dumbed down the combat
Not every modern RPG with dragons in it has to be inspired by Skyrim, BUT, the games director has explicitly said that he was inspired by the elder scrolls, so in this case they might have a point
@@LucienCallidus drakes are also copy pasted in dragons dogma2 just like in Skyrim and unlike 2 dont have theyre variants.
Skyrim was 2011 and DD1 was 2012
"Dragon's Dogshit 2" yeah he's still definitely mad about that gay furry stuff
It really is its own game, i get comparing it to Skyrim but all that does is create a "father son" dynamic with the game. A lot like any "souls like game" they will always be good attempts at "souls like" instead of just being a good game on its own. Terribly said but i hope you get my point.
They are more talking about the feeling it creates in the player, the sense of wonder. But I totally agree with you, dragon dogma plays like nothing else I’ve played, and the combat is miles better than skyrim
Skyrim had a lot of issues. Skyrim is overrated. It's not even the best Elder Scrolls game. Dragons were introduced as enemies too early. You will be fighting, and defeating, your first dragon after literally one dungeon if you follow the main quest. The final boss is supposed to be a world eating threat and he is basically a brick that flies around a bit. First person RPGs tend not to lend themselves well to spectacle as well as 3rd person games for whatever reason.
I think it was well said. You did a better job at staying humble than I usually do.
I agree with most everything you said.
Skyrim is not overrated, but the game would be better with your recommendations.
Agreed that Skyrim would be better if it forced player to complete Civil War quest & a guild quest line as a prerequisite for main story line. Agreed last boss fight was too easy.
It's not even a father-son dynamic, because Dragon's Dogma only came out a year after Skyrim. If there was any inspiration from Skyrim, it was some last-minute tweaks, and I really have a hard time believing that.
Dragon's Dogma 2? Maybe, but there's such a huge gap from Skyrim's release to Dragon's Dogma 2's release, it just seems like a very meh thing to say.
The whole video strikes me as something more attention-grabbing than trying to say something of substance, because it just doesn't. You could split apart the Skyrim and Dragon's Dogma 2 parts, and get two videos that work better on their own, rather than together for some lazy and overdone comparison video.
Crazy how Skyrim came out 6 months before Dragon’s Dogma 1 and we’re still years away from a real glimpse at a sequel. Pretty sure IGN even made this exact same video when the first game came out iirc
True ending enjoyers rise up
im sorry, i LOVE dd2 so far but modded skyrim is a game i dont think will be beaten for quite awhile, for the style of game it is atleast
DD2's world is how i'd imagine The Continent from The Witcher was like before Geralt's time. Before witchers existed monsters were rampant and attacks were random while during the time of the books most of the monsters were eradicated and the witchers were also almost extinct like the monsters they once hunted
I beat DD1 on a zero death run. I own DD2, but I'm too busy to play it!
I've been waiting for this game for 8 years!
Listening to disingenuous "Journalist talk" about gameplay is annoying as fuck. They always try to ham up the experience by adding in sheer bullshit it makes me wonder if they are getting a paycheck to do so.
100% they get paid.
Well I doubt these kinds of people would be very unhappy to talk out of their ass without some coin going back into it like its a crane game :)
Most alive game world I have played in since RDR 2. 9.3/10. I do think player movement during combat could be a little better
The first dragon you come across in elden ring was so cool. Just being on torrent and dodging dragon fire and running by and getting some swings in was so cinematic up until our fight went outside the playable area and he just disappeared and when I went back his health bar was full again.
Correct about the Griffin dive bombs. In the first game, you’d see it flying around but the damn thing would barely ever land. I think I killed 2, maybe 3 tops in that one. Now you see them all the time
Problem is even playing the game chill even if it runs well enough first on your system(most of the time it doesnt). You end up with 50-60 hours once you get the true ending. Replay ability isnt there either aside from maybe a quest or 2 or 1 decision you can change.
DD2 needs an expansion badly.
I need them to make the movements better.
Movements? Be more specific, are you talking about character animations or what?
It's kind of odd how so many open world games still choose to focus on a very linear storyline. I kind of wonder what open world games would be like if they would completely remove the concept of an intended progression and would instead completely focus on supporting a choose your own adventure type of experience. I think a lot of people would love to play games like this but it's just not the current industry standard unfortunately. I'd love to see a studio just go all in and remove all quest markers and 'main storylines' and just go ham with the world building and gameplay instead. Just make sidequests the main attraction
In Skyrim adding something like KS Dragon Overhaul mod with randomized stats/custom attacks keeps dragons from becoming stale. You never know what's coming.
The game is fun to play, but it is lacking a bit of depth. Hopefully they flesh it out more in the future without selling fully priced expansions.
Roughly 30 hours in an I have played only 2 vocations and still haven’t completely explored the first main zone after the capital or even moved on to the desert area.
There is still much more to unpack here while I toy around with some of the other game systems, but my biggest issues are the lack of variety in enemies and the ease of combat. The latter could likely be that I am OP for the area, but also once you learn how to beat a certain enemy, you can rinse and repeat the same tactic for every encounter.
Well, it's only a second game with gameplay like this. It's been a niche game since 2012, and the gap between the first one and the second one is 12 years. They need to show it to a wider audience to see how they react to it before they can start refining it and adding more stuff. And Capcom is a greedy corporate company, so most content will probably be released in dlc like Dark Arisen back in the day.
@@evgenyomegin I’m not against paying for dlc, but what I don’t like is half baked dlc content for a high price point. Adding one new area and a handful different mobs and bosses and charging $50 is something I don’t want to see and too many games are doing it today with standalone dlc’s.
If however they added more classes and systems, a large new area, a few extra caves, a dozen new enemy types and 5-6 meaningful bosses and could part with a more sizeable chunk of money.
All we can do now is wait and see as well as check their progression on improving the product that is currently released. It looks like it needed a few more months of development for sure, but it’s still a decent game. I just want to see it worth its price point.
If you want to make the combat more challenging, throw all three ponds away in to the garbage can AKA the river with whatever old god swallows anything up, and just play solo. It also depends on what class you use. All melee classes can survive solo. If you wanna play a caster, add only one pawn to your squadron and you’re good. As for archer, I think that entirely depends on how good you are and what abilities you’re using.
After playing DD1, I hated Skyrim.
Is telling how short he memories are for what truly laid the groundwork for modern RPGs. We used to have to RPG uphill both ways to the story and then fight the bosses barefoot in the snow with only a one button mouse....
Problem with Skyrim is the combat is crap. It was crap day one. I still loved the game for plenty of other reasons.
I’m just glad Asmongold has the “yeah the performance and mtx is ass, but what does that have to do with the game and gameplay itself?”
Performance absolutely harms the gameplay. What is "gameplay" at 20 fps
which is a stupid take, because bad performance can absolutely hinder gameplay
@@Dr.AvenVon but it doesn’t hinder his. He’s not saying other people don’t have problems. But he won’t judge it bc of that since he hasn’t had those problems
@@stillnotchill2560 would you judge a game based on something that didn’t affect you? Bc it hasn’t affected him basically at sll
@@stillnotchill2560wait until the patch bro idk what to tell you. Stop getting upset at people enjoying the game and wait until you can play it. Acting like this is a permanent thing is kinda silly even Asmon agrees.
Skyrim doesn't have dragons. The wings being fused with the front legs like that makes them Wyverns not dragons. Ironically for a game that has a story about the return of dragons but actually has no dragons. 😁
Its part of the blue balls Bethesda dev method.
All wyverns are dragons but not all dragons are wyverns. Dragon can also be a category, not just a specific name for the winged, four legged type.
Ahh you’re one of those types
Bros the dragon expert
0:44 needs at least one more elite mob ...
(a few moments later ...)
2:56 Random elite mob dive bombing you ...
IMHO there are other elite mobs hidden away like the Grim Ogre which sure are just tougher variants, but there's no way you've seen all the enemies that game has to offer and even if you have I reckon the DLC will expand on that massively!
Since the first DD, I seen what meta was and as someone who needs to stay dripped up 75% of the time I thought "if this is meta, I don't want it" and equipped whatever I wanted. Staff weak? Defenses low? I'm still melting, I'm still succeeding so no issue
Bethesdas combat is incredibly outdated and imo their biggest fault in their games, back in the day (oblivion & Skyrim days) it was okay/tolerated because 99% of their competitors also had dog combat, now it seems like every company has evolved their combat and Bethesda are still stuck behind, & I honestly don’t see enough of an improvement coming for us in that regard with ES6
Someone tell Asmongold that Dragon Dogma 1 has new game plus, superdungeon, world changes with new monster/effects & a true ending. I find no reason that Dragon Dogma 2 doesnt have exactly the same thins, cranked up to 11 (because the world is much bigger). Even in the trailers the boss Medusa was specifically mentioned to be not on the main story.
If Asmongold wants to be like the other variety streamers who rush to the story and miss out on 70% of the game, so be it.
Sadly can confirm that dragons dogma 2, while having a short postgame section that is time-gated, has no newgame+ changes or additional newgame+ content, the difficulty does not scale and there is no hard mode. Comparitively it's the equivalent of the OG DD1 release, so expect BBI style content and actual new game + world changes with the release of the leaked DLC in november.
DDII doesn't really build upon DD:Dark Arisen, but it builds upon Dragons Dogma and pretends that the expansion/refined release never existed in it's design. Which is weird, but fair enough.
@@ToMo_VOX OG DD1 did have post game, the world changes, the superdungeon can be accessed, the superboss can be accessed. And the post game can lead to a bad ending & the true ending.
Dark Arisen is a different thing, Bitterback Isle is a 2nd superdungeon, Dark Arisen has is own post game as well, the final area & the final boss of DD:DA change.
@@GeoGyf Perhaps I'm getting mixed up here, I always had thought that you had Ur-Dragon, everfall and then there were no changes aside from the hard mode toggle. Apologies if I got that wrong! It's still a huge shame we don't have any of this in Dragons Dogma 2.
@@ToMo_VOX Yes Ur-Dragon, Everfall, world changing is in the post game of OG DD 1. The final boss of OG DD1 is the Gregori multifight & the true boss (of the post game) is the Seneschal.
I havent played DD2 as i am trying to clear my own backlog, so i am going on your word, and if thats the case it will indeed be a huge shame.
Perhaps the devs thought that the extra stuff in the world (Sphinx was revealed to be entirely optional) made up for this?
In any case the stuff in DD were a bonus content, the game was perfectly playable without all the optional stuff.
But there is a worrying trend in the industry to cut down content, Yakuza had also NG+ locked behind a paywall.
Perhaps the AAA companies see the success of indie games who usually have low amounts content, no voice acting etc (it is a valid concern) & they believe they are owed more stuff. Worrysome!
@@GeoGyf The game is absolutely great and worth playing that's for sure and a successor in many ways to the first! I do reccommend it, but if you go in looking for a similar post/newgame+ experience it'll be disappointing.
There's an absolutely fantastic base game there though that they can add too, so I hold a lot of hope for the DLC and update content to take the game to the heights that it most definetely can reach!
It's funny you say that because dragon's dogma 2 is sort of designed with those players in mind so you can do the playthrough again and get the true ending
What I like about Skyrim is a lot of its dungeons and ruins have story.. Like Deadman's Respite and that another one which is guarded by a friendly ghost in distress because his power to hold an evil lich is waning. Random dungeon's that have memorable short stories behind them..
Imagine if Skyrim had DD2 combat can only hope 4 ES6
DD combat has been good since the first game and nobody has done it again.
Hope and Bethesda is not a good mix bro
How much you gonna hope bethesda has been failing since after skyrim and still people think they can rise up again. Stop funding these fail devs.
Keep smoking that hopium
Es6 will be the defining game for bethesda. Starfield and 76 were by most counts a flop. I can't imagine them sticking around for long as an actual dev studio if es6 flops as well. One can hope, but unfortunately hope ain't enough.
The best part of Dragons Dogma was the dlc Bitterblack Isle probably one of the best dlc's ever. Fighting Death for the first time 😮😮.. and by far going into the hybrid vocations forces you to play the game in different ways.Magic archer is probably the most fun I've had in most rpgs period
I beat daemon first try on hard with my mag archer I min maxed him. I'm playing basic archer in dd2 and it's fun and powerful
I’m 30 hours in and still didn’t start the main story😂
2012 game vs 2024 game. how fair
isn't that Bethesda's fault for not making any games that live up to Skyrim or oblivion for 12 years?
More like "We're so scared of a year 2011 game that we had to go back yet again and compare similar games to it even 13 years later." 🤭
@@DovahZeux fr fr xd
i can personally guarantee as someone who hasnt watched his DD2 streams. he definently did not "finish" the game. he "finished" DD2 like he "finished" armored core 6.
True ending enjoyers rise up
@@figuures6098 here here
Yeah DD2 is lacking when it comes to monster variety. Which is weird because DD1 wasn't even before the expansion
I think you need to replay vanilla dd1
@@twinmonkeycows9267 The fact that you're responding with this. Shows me you need to.
Me bought and played skyrim first time ytd. Was overwhelming with items 😂 wfh to pick, sell. Just kept my things in the magic school dorm.
Dragons Dogma had better combat than Skyrim. Dragons Dogma 2 is in another league compared to Skyrim.
I played Dark Arisen before Skyrim, and as I traveled around Skyrim on foot I often questioned where are the enemies, why is nobody attacking me, why are the wolves didn't hunt in packs.....
Maybe because it's more realistic? Do you expect people to attack you in the Middle of nowhere? Or wolves attacking you on a place where they don't live or hunt? If you don't have bounties why would anyone hunt you down?? So yes it was intended that way and also the monsters where put on locations intentionally so if you dint see a wolf its because maybe it was put near a camp or body to tell a story.
This is one of the more annoying aspects of DD2 I think. There are enemies around every corner, which makes me wonder how anyone ever gets anywhere in this world. I don't find that it's realistic, and it doesn't really give much breathing room between fights.
idk how a game that you just walk and kill the same 5 mobs is a 9.5
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Finally, someone not blind to the rachitic bestiary.
Take one of Asmongolds gameplay vids, click on a random time, and you'll have 90% chance to see the same fight, with the same flaming sword, in a similar environment.
Because you haven't played, your just giving your cry baby opinion when you've never played.
@bohannon2692 Oh wow, I didn't know I had someone watching over me on what I do. That's all you can say because you don't want people feeling negative about something you like, and yes, I've played, I just think it is a mid game being overhyped
@@hent1_boy Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, my friend.
I dont like how dragons dogma has the same terrain everywhere you go. Like the other areas of the map are just different colors of the first map, i kinda expected the desert to be a little more open
If the dude stayed on the Griffin then it would have taken him to its Nest which has a PortCrystal in it, and you Pawns teleport there to continue the fight. Just climb on the back and hold on if it tries to shake you off.
I can't wait for Dragon's Dogma 3
The best griffin moments are when you fall off of its back then a pawn catches you mid air and saves you.
Skyrim was my intro to elder scrolls and still 1 of my fav if not MY top fav of all time!! Sooo many good memories with that game over the years!! And outlasted even numerous gfs!!😂😂😂
dide he said Dragon dog shit 2? wow theshift was fast, went form the game is so great every devs should take example, to tis l in few day, crazy
its trash and we all know it.
@@UriTheImpaleryou really think it’s a bad game?
I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm.
It's a joke
I’m enjoying it…I’m only 6 hrs in but it’s got me hooked so far.
One game is from 2011
Not even. 2011. 11/11/11
@ovolmase6724 your right it seems hardly fair to compare a 360 ps3 game
yep that makes this comparison even dumber...🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Skyrim is on same throne with Elden Ring
Playing Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen killed my excitement to play Skyrim. I am not a huge RPG sucker, so Combat is what really sold me into DD.
I just think that their decision of adding in the microtransaction is dumb as fuck. Fortunately, it really does not affect gameplay. However, it creates a big excuse for people to keep talking shit about this game.
Review of the first game was "Greatest 6/10 game ever made." Sounds like the second has overtaken the first as the best 6/10 game.
7/10
Don’t compare these 2 games
Why not?
Ones good and ones dogshit lol
I dont like skyrim either
@@Fekron skyrim is still the most played game of bethesda and thats why its replayability is insane and far surpasses DD2 same with the roleplay
Skyrim had microtransactions, too
is there anything worse than gamers who are so "advanced" that they're too cool to like skyrim?
skyrim is really overrated
bad big enemy fight, magic feels bad, melee feels bad. only archery really works.
Only archery works? That's a skill issue lol. Any build can work
Skyrim at the time it was released it was cool, but what made Skyrim great was the modding community.
Skyrim in no way holds up to today's standards by any means
"do you like it more than Elden Ring?" 🤣😂😆😂🤣 How could anyone seriously make that comparison?!?!
Dd2 is beautiful. Elden ring is just horrible to look at. You have to use narcotics if elden ring nightmare monsters would be pleasant to look at and enjoy. Dd2 is video game. Elden ring is same robotic dead mario 1 experience.
I like dd2 better
The thing that Elder Scrolls does that no other games besides shitty MMO’s is guilds.
Guilds with mission quest lines. Guilds to rank up through. A guild for any play style allows the player to role play as who ever they want and just focus on the content that is relevant to the kind of game they want to play.
They actually captured this in Starfield as well. One of the few things he they did right in that game.
I remember reading a reddit thread of someone wanting to list stuff that was typical 2010 but isn't anymore. Open world games was said by someone with a lot of upvotes along with MOBAs on the list. It's funny how many agreed that open world is a "dead genre that wont get back" and saying it knowing AI is on a high rise.
There will come a day when we get a full fledged open world game run by advanced AI, so advanced it can keep track on characters and make up interesting quests, events and random things to happen that aren't fully random and has a full story to them, which you as the player can fully decide to explore or ignore.
That's the future of open world and many games I'd imagine in the distant future and in that sense a lot of future games will be open world and less linear when there's tech (AI) that can fill in those bits continuously. And if you doubt me, just check up Dungeon Master AI stuff, you'll be impressed by how good the AI is right now at able to hold a D&D style campaign and fill in the mundane.
Bullshit Asmon finished DD2 already, unless he was only doing main story and ignoring the entire point of the damn game which is to explore and have fun. I'm 30 hours in, have have barely done anything with the desert area lol.
Not really, problem with this game is that there's no enough of mobs and vocations. Even after 12 years Skyrim is still the goat
@@yous2244 hell no, skyrim has good roleplay aspects and that's it
@yous2244 and there's plenty of mobs, people just don't explore
@@yous2244 I don't even care to max out or use most of the vocations, don't need to and I'm at 38 hours with a crap ton left to do. If you haven't taken at least 100 hours in DD2, you really haven't played it.
@@ItApproaches oh my God, did you really use the "humfh I didn't need it anyways" argument that me and everyone uses when they're a kid? 😂🤣
Elder Scrolls games' combat takes zero skill and zero strategy. In fact the games suck in almost every way, other than that they're large worlds to explore.
yeah, skill requirement is very low. despite that the elder scrolls games still end up being better than games like dragons dogma and elden ring
A beautiful world you can only explore with a 1960s remote control Rover robot.
@@hellothere4431 I disagree. The last time ES showed the slightest bit of creativity was morrowind, and even then it wasn't enough.
Preach
@@hellothere4431 Yeah, I agree. In an RPG I want to live my story, not necessarily difficult combat
I was fighting a bunch of Goblins when a Griffon ambushed a bunch of cows near us, after we dealed with the Goblins I went after the Griffon. While we were fighting it a Oxcart was passing by and the guards came to reinforce us, random pawns joined later on as well, the beast was overwhelmed and fled.
A few minutes later after I had just finished exploring a cave, the same Griffon came back, and it turns out the beast learned lighting magic, I was cought off guard, and to be honest I almost died. But in the end we prevailed.
This game earned a special spot in my heart.
Friffin in the foglands where zombies constantly spawn is terifying
Dude said all that matters to him is combat but played tf out of WoW, which has the worst combat in history lol
In Skyrim I restarted the game to change character and try new paths multiple times. And it never costed anything, crazy 😱
but it doesnt cost anything???? (bar ur save slot)
Weird its the same in dragons dogma 2 get your facts streight
@@Someone-lg6di glad you can have more than 1 save file and as many fast travels as you want. after all you paid 60 bucks for a game, would be insane to pay for anything else.
Performance is outside of the game 😂
It affects people differently, many games people have performance issues, but I just don't have it, at least I rarely experience it.
As soon as there are problems, I search forum and someone will offer a way to fix it until patches.
yes it is, its not part of the combat, systems, shops, day and night cicle, quests, npcs
you can have the best game of the world and bad performance, or the worst game of the world and good performance
Lmao this cope is pathetic. Ok I'll do some averaging then. If we take Zach's score of 9.5/10, and add it to Charlie's score of 0/10 (because he couldn't play the game), then we have a final score of 4.75.
The interesting thing between these 2 reviews is how closely matched their 2 systems are