Thanks for the post! I just got weaponmaster so I wanted to try mace, but I guess i'll go straight to shortbow. It looks fun. I use Function a lot to help manage Downs, so it'll be tough. Maybe just treat it like a mantra of concentration. With the smaller circle just have to stay tighter on tag.
Just in case you're not aware, you wont be able to use shortbow until you get the Astral Ward Arsenal achievement that comes from doing Ep. 14 on the SOTO story. Had that issue yesterday when I was setting up this build.
@@JahazielArias Appreciate the reply.. I'm a fairly recently returned player to come back after many years so I'm a bit lost on everything after season 1. I'm trying to inch my way through Story (which I enjoy), but I mostly play WvW. That said, I fortunately had plenty of Jade Heroics and just went to the Heroics Notary in WvW and traded for all the Astral Ward items to unlock it (like I did for Weapon Master). I'd have rather done the story like you mentioned, but I was lucky to have a ton of currency from my previous time here and had this option available.
@@dacsdemons6591 i take it for extra damage reduction on yourself from protection. The other 2 traits are kinda useless, better have that extra ~6.6% damage reduction
Hello Sir. Elixer Gun 5 doesn't cleanse per pulse. it only cleanses on the initial drop, so its only 5 (10 with antitoxin) condi cleanse. Don't waste your time casting it, it's the worst (lowest value) skill on the class. I made a document a while back about the highest condi cleanse contribution on this build that i dont think i saved anywhere (rip) But what i do remember is that the highest value condi cleanse skills (with AntiCorrosion Plating+Antitoxin) are Cleansing Field, and Purge Gyro (and Shredder gyro when you combo it with light field, like purge gyro) I didn't document a Shortbow, so you can consider it as possible skills that might be competitive with those 2. I dont even run E-gun on my build. I replace it with shredder. Fumigate is still pretty good (maybe as good as shredder now since purge gyro nerf) just less swapping, easier W keying, and therefor you can focus on healing (spaming Heal Kit 1) and leaving your cleanses to fields. So its just an option to consider, you'll get the same results.
@@metallonegw2283 Indeed. something i should mention on the topic of fumigate : is that Fumigate might be effected by antitoxin in such a way where each packet the gun outputs is considered a unique condition cleanse (it also words it this way on the wiki) so rather than 5 condition cleanse becoming 6 (as the tooltip suggests)...it might be more like 1 becoming 2, times 5 (packets) for 10 condition cleanses per packet across 5 players hit by the cone (50 total on 5 pulses) rather than 30 total, so long as your always hitting unique sets of players while using the skill. Considering its cooldown, that puts fumigate up there with cleansing field, purge gyro and shredder gyro. I barely play the game anymore...you should test that out. Probably not the easiest test but maybe join a few zergs and see if pushing the fumigate button when you have antitoxin (no anticorrision, or any other skill) produces more than 30 condition cleanse, and just do it a number of times since conditions applied is a variable.
You mentioned going shield for blasts but SB has two as well on 2 and 5, so I go 3-2-4-5 then swap to kits by the time they are done the SB is all off cooldown
at the 19min mark you got realy sick of speaking english^^, but well done!!! thx for the vid! time to dust of my scrapper, see you on the battlefield^^
I think the healing is still too low to compete. Druid has it's heals build into the kit, where as scrapper needs to spam medkit. It's a bit like tempest. Sometimes you miss the ability to burst heal, which can lead to death of your subgroup. Some more buffs and scrapper will be great. They just need to apply a resistance source (as instant cast.)
Thanks for the post! I just got weaponmaster so I wanted to try mace, but I guess i'll go straight to shortbow. It looks fun.
I use Function a lot to help manage Downs, so it'll be tough. Maybe just treat it like a mantra of concentration. With the smaller circle just have to stay tighter on tag.
Just in case you're not aware, you wont be able to use shortbow until you get the Astral Ward Arsenal achievement that comes from doing Ep. 14 on the SOTO story. Had that issue yesterday when I was setting up this build.
@@JahazielArias Appreciate the reply.. I'm a fairly recently returned player to come back after many years so I'm a bit lost on everything after season 1. I'm trying to inch my way through Story (which I enjoy), but I mostly play WvW.
That said, I fortunately had plenty of Jade Heroics and just went to the Heroics Notary in WvW and traded for all the Astral Ward items to unlock it (like I did for Weapon Master).
I'd have rather done the story like you mentioned, but I was lucky to have a ton of currency from my previous time here and had this option available.
In the Inventions trait line, why are you taking "Over Shield"? Is that an oversight since Shortbow is the meta now?
@@dacsdemons6591 i take it for extra damage reduction on yourself from protection. The other 2 traits are kinda useless, better have that extra ~6.6% damage reduction
Yep, I misread the second sentence for Over Shield. Thought it was stating what protection did. Thanks
Hello Sir. Elixer Gun 5 doesn't cleanse per pulse. it only cleanses on the initial drop, so its only 5 (10 with antitoxin) condi cleanse. Don't waste your time casting it, it's the worst (lowest value) skill on the class.
I made a document a while back about the highest condi cleanse contribution on this build that i dont think i saved anywhere (rip)
But what i do remember is that the highest value condi cleanse skills (with AntiCorrosion Plating+Antitoxin) are Cleansing Field, and Purge Gyro (and Shredder gyro when you combo it with light field, like purge gyro) I didn't document a Shortbow, so you can consider it as possible skills that might be competitive with those 2.
I dont even run E-gun on my build. I replace it with shredder. Fumigate is still pretty good (maybe as good as shredder now since purge gyro nerf) just less swapping, easier W keying, and therefor you can focus on healing (spaming Heal Kit 1) and leaving your cleanses to fields. So its just an option to consider, you'll get the same results.
Right, it's only on the first pulse.
I used to run shredder before for the same reason you listed, but skill 3 is still very good
@@metallonegw2283 Indeed. something i should mention on the topic of fumigate : is that Fumigate might be effected by antitoxin in such a way where each packet the gun outputs is considered a unique condition cleanse (it also words it this way on the wiki) so rather than 5 condition cleanse becoming 6 (as the tooltip suggests)...it might be more like 1 becoming 2, times 5 (packets) for 10 condition cleanses per packet across 5 players hit by the cone (50 total on 5 pulses) rather than 30 total, so long as your always hitting unique sets of players while using the skill. Considering its cooldown, that puts fumigate up there with cleansing field, purge gyro and shredder gyro.
I barely play the game anymore...you should test that out. Probably not the easiest test but maybe join a few zergs and see if pushing the fumigate button when you have antitoxin (no anticorrision, or any other skill) produces more than 30 condition cleanse, and just do it a number of times since conditions applied is a variable.
@@NightmareCourtPictures i think it's 50, yep
@@metallonegw2283 very cool. thanks for taking the time and energy to find out.
time to go put egun back on my build lol
Спасибо, будем пробовать!)
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You mentioned going shield for blasts but SB has two as well on 2 and 5, so I go 3-2-4-5 then swap to kits by the time they are done the SB is all off cooldown
True, shortbow seems better in basically every aspect
Nice vid,any modifications you would make for a roaming group of 4-6 people? : )
Probably no mortar kit, the rest should work like this
at the 19min mark you got realy sick of speaking english^^, but well done!!! thx for the vid! time to dust of my scrapper, see you on the battlefield^^
I think the healing is still too low to compete.
Druid has it's heals build into the kit, where as scrapper needs to spam medkit.
It's a bit like tempest. Sometimes you miss the ability to burst heal, which can lead to death of your subgroup.
Some more buffs and scrapper will be great. They just need to apply a resistance source (as instant cast.)
Im not very sure druid is better now,scrapper has a lot of barriers to compensate the lower heals.
@@metallonegw2283 good point! I will give it some testing.
i rly hope scrapper finds a spot in the meta cause its super fun to play.
@@paul6350 druid was much superior also thanks to alacrity, which was removed. Now they are both good imo
still weak to be used in real content and guilds fights
What do you run?