Well the main pro of this grinder is the price! I got it for 139 euros and free shipping! It’s a bargain for an electric grinder capable of espresso guys. Great review Tom, we love the reviews of budget stuff!! ❤
Hi, I have this grinder. It's good for its price. I make small changes to the grinding level without turning the grinder on - it's not necessary when there are no beans in it. Even when there are some inside, the engine has no problem with it. The same with the grinder in their H7A coffee machine (which is quite weak to be honest, but I'll make a video about it for my second channel sometime). Stepless adjustment is great, although I regret that I have to adjust the setting every time to be able to clean the grinder. Very bad thing is that you can't separate the burrs from the container. If you break the container or want to clean the grinder thoroughly... well, that's bad. Good thing is that I can always go back to the same place, because it's very consistent. Even when changing coffee beans! On the stock basket I use settings between 9.5 and 10.5, on DEX between 8.5 and 9.5, and on BEP between 7.5 and 8.5. My retention is about 0.2g without RDT. With RDT it is 0. The silicone base is currently shipped without a magnetic element, but I bought a set of neodymium magnets on AliExpress and they work great (15mm x 2mm). Then, even with the silicone base, the dosing cup works as it should. You shouldn't hit the top cover like that - rather press vigorously to push out the coffee residue. Otherwise I would be worried about the plastic container. To sum up - for the price I paid, this is probably the best choice. You can buy it even cheaper on geekbuying - I had some promotion (about 155 USD).
I was waiting for this review as it is really affordable for newcomers to the coffee scene. Such a small machine. Good to see it work well with the Dedica.
As always we espresso ppl on a budget appreciate it very mich when you review equipment we can actually afford Have been the Hibrew G5 for about 6 months even for some loght catering stuff and ran through at least 30kg of coffee through the grinder. Very happy for what it is, especially for the price May I make a suggestion for another grinder? Since you reviewed the Eureka Libra I thought a GBW gribder from aliexpress would be interesting I recently ordered an itop IT-CG-64C 64mm titanium coated flat hurrs(somewhat similar to SSP HU burrs), 400w motor, gbw via BT scale Paid 400eur but will probably have to pay import tax later so its gonna be 480eur Intended as a small café grinder or even someone making lots of espresso at home , perhaps an office
Very good summary of the pros and cons. Thanks to you I now know the catch cup is magnetic (I'm using this thing for quite some time now an never thought of removing the silicone pad.) 😂 I get really nice shots with my Gaggia classic Evo with this. I drink speciality coffee and with the micro adjustments I get everything I want out of my beans. Some times I just have to spray the beans or preinfuse to get the taste just right, sometimes I have to set the temp higher - maybe you can try that in order to get the "brightness" from some of your beans that you miss. I learned that my taste is quite different from time to time and these tiny additional adjustments in prep sometimes really makes the difference Always enjoy watching your videos!
One last thing: I placed a water absorbend silicone mat under my coffe maschine and grinder. I find this way everything is more stable and my kitchen counter stays clean and dry. This way the grinder doesn't move to much when using the bump.
Thanks tom for your fruitful experience, i need advice if i will buy new esspresso machine ,i have 2 options 1.dedica ec885 , 2. Hibrew H10A which one you will choose?
Sooo after your recommendation I bought the Kingrinder K6 for around 120 EUR. How does that compare with this? Is it better? (I will use it mostly for espresso, but also occasional turkish coffee or moka pot.
Great video! Do you think there’s a big difference between the slow setting and the regular one? If so, what could be the difference and what do you recommend for espresso?
Great video Tom! Since its a rather budget option, would you consider a Hibrew G5 vs MiiCoffee DF54 comparison? That would be interesting. Unfortunately to me I cant seem to get a hang of their products where Im located (Japan). When I look on amazon for grinders its mainly pour over stuff. Sigh, tough life of an espresso elitist. Cheers!
I'd just go with the DF54 myself. It's much more stable, and it has flat burrs, so a little different that way. Both good grinders for the money though.
I have this. I found that the grind size is not fine enough for my Flair 58 even with fresh medium roast. However, it pairs well with my Flair Classic as I could get decent pressure. This could be due to the physics of water flowing through a smaller portafilter.
Hey Tom, how’s it going? Great video! If you had to pick, would you go for the Hibrew G5 or the Fellow Opus? I mostly use it for espresso. Have you had a chance to compare them, or do you have any other recommendations under $200?
Thanks tom, i have this grinder, it came a little lose and couldn't grind for cafelat robot basket, and couldn't contact hibrew as i live in egypt, and shipping + custom + vat gonna make shims very expensive, i had to design my own 0.3mm shim and 3d printed it from petg, two shims and now i can choke my robot on setting 5, i wish you could compare grind size diffrence and uniformity of the grind, but for the price of it, its soid grinder for me till i feel the need for df64 new gen or whatever they gonna come with next year ❤
Hmm, mine grinds more than fine enough at 8 already, for normal pump machines anyway. But I don't have a lever machine to try it with right now. Glad you got it working though! Cheers!
Hi Tom, hope you doing well. I just bought this G5.And I'm facing issue that I got a little bit electric shock when start & touch start button. The store owner said that it's normal because the anti static technique of this machine. Do you facing the same issue?
@@goldendarkness56 hi there! No, I didn’t get any shock from using the grinder, or I would’ve certainly mentioned it. The potential of the antistatic pins should be isolated from the body of the grinder. Perhaps there’s a wiring issue, however. I would send it back and get a new one.
If you want to single dose, then yes. I personally find single dosing cumbersome for a daily driver. But the G5 also has the advantage of stepless adjustment. Cheers!
My Hibrew G5 is not properly calibrated, it does not grind fine enough for espresso in a bottomless filter, and the after-sales service does not care, it does not pay attention to me
I have this machine (h7a fake dual boiler) and will soon do a review on my second channel. HiBrew completely lies to its customers - it is a double thermoblock. Poor quality of the housing (the latches break when you want to disassemble it, but there is no problem to put it back together, it is just very time-consuming), the three-way solenoid valve works ineffectively, and the extraction pressure is absolutely too high. I had to adjust the safety valve to about 10.5 bar, which at the same time reduced the water flow (fortunately), and I get a 9bar->6bar profile in about 27-30 seconds (e.g. 18g->40g). Unfortunately, you can't do this modification without additional parts: a larger water hose + a sleeve from the larger hose to the smaller one. In addition, the built-in grinder makes a huge mess inside the machine - it is very poorly sealed. imgur.com/a/SFkzl2l imgur.com/a/msJ5rGj
I haven't tried the SD40, but I have tried the MiiCoffee version. I'd say these are all quite similar in performance and ergonomics. Choose the one that's cheapest in your market, I'd say.
You made a huge mistake! When you push on the bellow, it's not a good idea to do it while grinding! The clogging and build up around the chute is because of this. When you push down, coffee grinds get pushed out through the chute, but when you release the bellow, air is pulled back in... all the while the sweeper is try pushing grinds down the chute. This causes upwards (from vacuum force) and downwards (from the sweeper and gravity) forces combine to compress the grinds slightly. Over time, this cause the build up to accumulate... Only push down on the bellow when the grinding process is completed and you don't need to be that forceful either.
Hmm, interesting thought. But in my opinion you need to push the bellows while running, because otherwise the grounds won't get out of the grind chamber, since there's fins in there. But I'll try it out once. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner You feel the need to push or it won't clear is because there is already build-up in the chute. If you clean out the chute really, try to not push the bellow while grinding...and when finish grinding, big a couple spaced out good push and it will clear. That do and watch how the chute stay clearer for longer. I used to do it the way you and it was getting clogged very quickly and finally realized the mistake myself.
Thanks Tom for your evaluation of budget home espresso products. I'm struggling Abit with my Baratza Virtuoso and Delonghi ECP 3630. I'll take a look at this grinder. Hopefully they'll address the clogging shoot and narrow base issues
@@jeffandersen6233 Every grinder has issues with the exit chute. At least I've never seen one that didn't have those problems. My friend has the Virtuoso+, and that can grind fine enough for his ECP3420, but I think the + model is a little different. Good luck!
I bought one because of this video and ofc because of the price. I used it with my flair neo flex at around setting 5 (espresso). So far so good!
Well the main pro of this grinder is the price! I got it for 139 euros and free shipping! It’s a bargain for an electric grinder capable of espresso guys. Great review Tom, we love the reviews of budget stuff!! ❤
That was a great price. On Amazon DE it's 239 euro atm for me.
@@cristinmarius Buy it from geek buying
Where did you buy it?
Hi, I have this grinder. It's good for its price.
I make small changes to the grinding level without turning the grinder on - it's not necessary when there are no beans in it. Even when there are some inside, the engine has no problem with it. The same with the grinder in their H7A coffee machine (which is quite weak to be honest, but I'll make a video about it for my second channel sometime).
Stepless adjustment is great, although I regret that I have to adjust the setting every time to be able to clean the grinder.
Very bad thing is that you can't separate the burrs from the container. If you break the container or want to clean the grinder thoroughly... well, that's bad.
Good thing is that I can always go back to the same place, because it's very consistent. Even when changing coffee beans!
On the stock basket I use settings between 9.5 and 10.5, on DEX between 8.5 and 9.5, and on BEP between 7.5 and 8.5.
My retention is about 0.2g without RDT. With RDT it is 0.
The silicone base is currently shipped without a magnetic element, but I bought a set of neodymium magnets on AliExpress and they work great (15mm x 2mm). Then, even with the silicone base, the dosing cup works as it should.
You shouldn't hit the top cover like that - rather press vigorously to push out the coffee residue. Otherwise I would be worried about the plastic container.
To sum up - for the price I paid, this is probably the best choice. You can buy it even cheaper on geekbuying - I had some promotion (about 155 USD).
Thanks for posting your experience!
I was waiting for this review as it is really affordable for newcomers to the coffee scene. Such a small machine. Good to see it work well with the Dedica.
As always we espresso ppl on a budget appreciate it very mich when you review equipment we can actually afford
Have been the Hibrew G5 for about 6 months even for some loght catering stuff and ran through at least 30kg of coffee through the grinder. Very happy for what it is, especially for the price
May I make a suggestion for another grinder? Since you reviewed the Eureka Libra I thought a GBW gribder from aliexpress would be interesting
I recently ordered an itop IT-CG-64C
64mm titanium coated flat hurrs(somewhat similar to SSP HU burrs), 400w motor, gbw via BT scale
Paid 400eur but will probably have to pay import tax later so its gonna be 480eur
Intended as a small café grinder or even someone making lots of espresso at home , perhaps an office
Very good summary of the pros and cons. Thanks to you I now know the catch cup is magnetic (I'm using this thing for quite some time now an never thought of removing the silicone pad.) 😂
I get really nice shots with my Gaggia classic Evo with this. I drink speciality coffee and with the micro adjustments I get everything I want out of my beans.
Some times I just have to spray the beans or preinfuse to get the taste just right, sometimes I have to set the temp higher - maybe you can try that in order to get the "brightness" from some of your beans that you miss. I learned that my taste is quite different from time to time and these tiny additional adjustments in prep sometimes really makes the difference
Always enjoy watching your videos!
One last thing: I placed a water absorbend silicone mat under my coffe maschine and grinder. I find this way everything is more stable and my kitchen counter stays clean and dry. This way the grinder doesn't move to much when using the bump.
Thanks tom for your fruitful experience, i need advice if i will buy new esspresso machine ,i have 2 options 1.dedica ec885 , 2. Hibrew H10A which one you will choose?
Nice review. Would you recommend this over a manual grinder for espresso? Like a Kingrinder K4/K6 or Timemore C3 ESP.
Same question!
I much prefer an electric grinder over a manual one, because manual grinding gets cumbersome, quickly. But I do use the K4 at work.
Great preview Tom I’m kind of thinking about it just because of the price I like to get things cheap
Thanks for the video. Would you recommend this over Encore ESP for my Dedica? I am getting both at almost same price in India.
I have this one for my Sage 920. And it does his job perfectly. Totally recommend
Thanks for your feedback!
Sooo after your recommendation I bought the Kingrinder K6 for around 120 EUR. How does that compare with this? Is it better? (I will use it mostly for espresso, but also occasional turkish coffee or moka pot.
Cual es la maxima cercania de las fresas conicas?pegan si se cierra todo ?
Great video!
Do you think there’s a big difference between the slow setting and the regular one?
If so, what could be the difference and what do you recommend for espresso?
I don't think there's a perceptible difference between 400 and 500 rpm. Maybe someone else can tell a difference, but I don't think I can.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner
Oh ok, I thought you chose the 400 RPM for a reason 😅
Great video Tom!
Since its a rather budget option, would you consider a Hibrew G5 vs MiiCoffee DF54 comparison? That would be interesting.
Unfortunately to me I cant seem to get a hang of their products where Im located (Japan). When I look on amazon for grinders its mainly pour over stuff.
Sigh, tough life of an espresso elitist.
Cheers!
I'd just go with the DF54 myself. It's much more stable, and it has flat burrs, so a little different that way. Both good grinders for the money though.
Which grind setting do you use for your espresso? There's a wide number of settings for espresso on this grinder.
I have this. I found that the grind size is not fine enough for my Flair 58 even with fresh medium roast. However, it pairs well with my Flair Classic as I could get decent pressure. This could be due to the physics of water flowing through a smaller portafilter.
Well, the Flair 58 does require a much finer grind. I would have thought this G5 could do it though. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Just shim the burr with 300micron foil folds and yoy are golden, i have shimed mine and i choke my cafelat robot on 5 now!
@@g33ks55shim means placing tinfoil under the burrs to “lift” it up so they are closer to each other? Sorry if i misunderstood hehe
@Ltab249 yes, exactly 💯 👏
You could easily mod it to grind much finer. I did it because mine arrived de-calibrated and couldn't grind fine enough no matter what.
Thanks Tom, excellent review as always. Is it possible to get any more information on your 3d printed funnel?
Sure, it's this one: www.thingiverse.com/thing:3347421
I just brought the file to the library, and they helped me print it. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank You!
they have another one which is the hibrew G3 grinder, it is more a budget friendly one, do you have an opinion on that ?
Small footprint is something that can cause that wiggle. But it's something that I am looking for
The grind for espresso was on which number
8 for me, with freshly roasted beans.
Can you test the new Philips Baristina BAR300/60?
Hey Tom, how’s it going? Great video! If you had to pick, would you go for the Hibrew G5 or the Fellow Opus? I mostly use it for espresso. Have you had a chance to compare them, or do you have any other recommendations under $200?
Honestly, I'd take a DF54 in that price range.
Is it good for v60 ? Am looking for grinder that i can use for both v60 and espresso, or should i go for opus
Thanks tom, i have this grinder, it came a little lose and couldn't grind for cafelat robot basket, and couldn't contact hibrew as i live in egypt, and shipping + custom + vat gonna make shims very expensive, i had to design my own 0.3mm shim and 3d printed it from petg, two shims and now i can choke my robot on setting 5, i wish you could compare grind size diffrence and uniformity of the grind, but for the price of it, its soid grinder for me till i feel the need for df64 new gen or whatever they gonna come with next year ❤
Hmm, mine grinds more than fine enough at 8 already, for normal pump machines anyway. But I don't have a lever machine to try it with right now. Glad you got it working though! Cheers!
This one vs. bratza esp vs. manuale?which one is better
Hi Tom, hope you doing well. I just bought this G5.And I'm facing issue that I got a little bit electric shock when start & touch start button. The store owner said that it's normal because the anti static technique of this machine. Do you facing the same issue?
@@goldendarkness56 hi there! No, I didn’t get any shock from using the grinder, or I would’ve certainly mentioned it. The potential of the antistatic pins should be isolated from the body of the grinder. Perhaps there’s a wiring issue, however. I would send it back and get a new one.
Would you recommend this grinder over a Sage Smart Pro grinder or vice versa?
If you want to single dose, then yes. I personally find single dosing cumbersome for a daily driver. But the G5 also has the advantage of stepless adjustment. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you
you can pay a lot more for the rpm change. if i were just starting out on a budget, it would be a contender. this or a manual.
My Hibrew G5 is not properly calibrated, it does not grind fine enough for espresso in a bottomless filter, and the after-sales service does not care, it does not pay attention to me
Nice video Tom,hopefully one day, I'll see you reviewing the hibrew H7a dual boiler
Hibrew seems to be adding a lot of products. HiBREW espresso H14 sells for $199 for a single-boiler machine that grinds and steams.
I think they're replacing that model with something else, that the American power can handle. That one draws too many amps.
I have this machine (h7a fake dual boiler) and will soon do a review on my second channel.
HiBrew completely lies to its customers - it is a double thermoblock. Poor quality of the housing (the latches break when you want to disassemble it, but there is no problem to put it back together, it is just very time-consuming), the three-way solenoid valve works ineffectively, and the extraction pressure is absolutely too high. I had to adjust the safety valve to about 10.5 bar, which at the same time reduced the water flow (fortunately), and I get a 9bar->6bar profile in about 27-30 seconds (e.g. 18g->40g).
Unfortunately, you can't do this modification without additional parts: a larger water hose + a sleeve from the larger hose to the smaller one.
In addition, the built-in grinder makes a huge mess inside the machine - it is very poorly sealed.
imgur.com/a/SFkzl2l
imgur.com/a/msJ5rGj
This one or turin sd40
I haven't tried the SD40, but I have tried the MiiCoffee version. I'd say these are all quite similar in performance and ergonomics. Choose the one that's cheapest in your market, I'd say.
This one or starseeker 55
Bitte mal die Zuriga testen. Wäre cool ✌️
You made a huge mistake! When you push on the bellow, it's not a good idea to do it while grinding! The clogging and build up around the chute is because of this. When you push down, coffee grinds get pushed out through the chute, but when you release the bellow, air is pulled back in... all the while the sweeper is try pushing grinds down the chute. This causes upwards (from vacuum force) and downwards (from the sweeper and gravity) forces combine to compress the grinds slightly. Over time, this cause the build up to accumulate... Only push down on the bellow when the grinding process is completed and you don't need to be that forceful either.
Hmm, interesting thought. But in my opinion you need to push the bellows while running, because otherwise the grounds won't get out of the grind chamber, since there's fins in there. But I'll try it out once. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner You feel the need to push or it won't clear is because there is already build-up in the chute. If you clean out the chute really, try to not push the bellow while grinding...and when finish grinding, big a couple spaced out good push and it will clear. That do and watch how the chute stay clearer for longer. I used to do it the way you and it was getting clogged very quickly and finally realized the mistake myself.
Wie sagt man gnarled auf deutsche?
Knurled is 'geraendelt.' Cheers!
Shouldn't the coffee extraction time exceed 28 seconds? You're at 34
I am going to buy it only because I am a Jew and the grinder is Hebrew!
Hahahahaha and it is such a bargain ! :):)
Thanks Tom for your evaluation of budget home espresso products. I'm struggling Abit with my Baratza Virtuoso and Delonghi ECP 3630. I'll take a look at this grinder. Hopefully they'll address the clogging shoot and narrow base issues
@@jeffandersen6233 Every grinder has issues with the exit chute. At least I've never seen one that didn't have those problems. My friend has the Virtuoso+, and that can grind fine enough for his ECP3420, but I think the + model is a little different. Good luck!
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@@jeffandersen6233I have that grinder. I do not think it's for espresso.