1:26:44 Plasteel Blades. This is how I expect this card to be played . Someone has 3 spice (or 2 spice if they're going to high council), they go to a Landsraad spot with a Sardauker commander, they trade 3 spice for 2 solari and a Sardauker commander, and immediately trash the card for an additional commander skill. I think it can be quite good. Using 1 spice -> 2 solari conversion, 3 spice for 4 solari and an extra commander skill that can be very worthwhile.
Fun hypothetical - if as Piter you use Insidious to give Duncan Idaho the Calculating intrigue card they could potentially get up to 5 solari from it (normal troop, agent pesudo troop, sandworm, sarduakar commander, dreadnought)
Niche use of the "Controlled" Twisted Mentat`s intrigue could be discarding the last card in your draw in order to increase the chances of drawing particular cards on reshuffle. But you are right that probably that the card won't be used much for that.
I like Uprising but tech tiles and graft cards add such a level of fun to the game that I still preferred Ix + Immo most of the time. These new leaders and tech tiles look ripe for exciting plays and alternate ways to scores VPs. Very excited.
Also, I think one aspect of the commanders that savvy players are going to take advantage of is the fact that if you re-hire your commander when you go to a deploy space, that's a potential extra deployment you can do that turn.
I think you guys get Liet Kynes ability wrong. If you first go hagga basin with the ring then you would only get 2 spice not 4, one from the ability and one from the ring. It’s each time you would summon sandworm you instead get these rewards so you would have to choose sandworms not spice in order to trigger her ability.
Feyd is going to love the spy drones tech. On his reveal turn, he gets all the benefit of all his revealed cards. Then he pulls a spy for 2 swords. Then he flips spy drones and gets a coin and trashes one of his revealed cards.
You guys sounded like you thought a worm valuation of spice trash intrigue was in some sense high or impressive. IMO it is clearly and significantly lower than the actual value of a worm. A worm, I'd say, is worth about that much plus 3 strength, as that's about how much you double in combat rewards.
Yea it's definitely a bit of a weakness especially since you can never double the points ftom conflicts so she has to make it up with disrupting the worm players, thinking down the deck and intrigues.
I think it's still good and kinda cool but yes, Worms are going to be better probably 70-80% of the time. This I don't really doubt sadly but you can't make Liet's ability much stronger really..?
1:26:44 Plasteel Blades. This is how I expect this card to be played . Someone has 3 spice (or 2 spice if they're going to high council), they go to a Landsraad spot with a Sardauker commander, they trade 3 spice for 2 solari and a Sardauker commander, and immediately trash the card for an additional commander skill.
I think it can be quite good. Using 1 spice -> 2 solari conversion, 3 spice for 4 solari and an extra commander skill that can be very worthwhile.
Sardauker Commanders with reveal effects and Amber Metulli retreat ability is going to make her more viable I think
I do wonder just how deliberate this has been...
Fun hypothetical - if as Piter you use Insidious to give Duncan Idaho the Calculating intrigue card they could potentially get up to 5 solari from it (normal troop, agent pesudo troop, sandworm, sarduakar commander, dreadnought)
@@BrendanHead they can indeed. Perhaps a plan in 3v3?
Niche use of the "Controlled" Twisted Mentat`s intrigue could be discarding the last card in your draw in order to increase the chances of drawing particular cards on reshuffle. But you are right that probably that the card won't be used much for that.
I like Uprising but tech tiles and graft cards add such a level of fun to the game that I still preferred Ix + Immo most of the time. These new leaders and tech tiles look ripe for exciting plays and alternate ways to scores VPs. Very excited.
Also, I think one aspect of the commanders that savvy players are going to take advantage of is the fact that if you re-hire your commander when you go to a deploy space, that's a potential extra deployment you can do that turn.
I'm sure many people will totally forget about it and get ambushed a lot.
With enough solari and commanders, any space can turn into highliner 🤣
I think you guys get Liet Kynes ability wrong. If you first go hagga basin with the ring then you would only get 2 spice not 4, one from the ability and one from the ring. It’s each time you would summon sandworm you instead get these rewards so you would have to choose sandworms not spice in order to trigger her ability.
@@michaellai0 That makes sense! Thanks for the clarification.
Not impossible we get something wrong either in this or find out later like Peter's Intrigue draw with the techs
I thought the scenario was to go to Sietch Tabr first, get hooks, then Hagga Basin with the ring. Which seems like a pretty scary start
@@MichelWild I can't recall the exact scenario off-hand, maybe I was suggesting deep desert with the extra water?
Can you choose sandworm if no hook? Doesn't that mean she would have to get hook first?
Feyd is going to love the spy drones tech. On his reveal turn, he gets all the benefit of all his revealed cards. Then he pulls a spy for 2 swords. Then he flips spy drones and gets a coin and trashes one of his revealed cards.
@@michaelwolfe9167 Seems pretty spiffy to me.
Why is background play not available for this video?
@@daSenfgurke not sure. I'll look into it.
You guys sounded like you thought a worm valuation of spice trash intrigue was in some sense high or impressive. IMO it is clearly and significantly lower than the actual value of a worm. A worm, I'd say, is worth about that much plus 3 strength, as that's about how much you double in combat rewards.
Yea it's definitely a bit of a weakness especially since you can never double the points ftom conflicts so she has to make it up with disrupting the worm players, thinking down the deck and intrigues.
I think it's still good and kinda cool but yes, Worms are going to be better probably 70-80% of the time. This I don't really doubt sadly but you can't make Liet's ability much stronger really..?