Correction - 300 people died in the massacre. Seems like there’s a lot of differing numbers on the scale of it including 36 as mentioned in the video which appears at the top of google. However the NY Times have stated that up to 300 were killed during it. Here's the search I typed in to discover 36 deaths www.google.com/search?q=the+tulsa+massacre&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB868GB868&oq=the+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j46j69i59j69i61j69i60l2j69i65l2.1379j1j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Seems like things are still being downplayed today.
Montrose is the unsung hero of this episode. He's the only one that lived through Tulsa, and truly knew what happened there, and suffers PTSD because of it, but he still willingly went back to relive it, and get the book.
"Reluctantly" is the word. He went because he had to. Michael Williams is a great actor too, he really sold his role in this series. It was a hard watch.
I really didn’t want to see them go back to the Tulsa Massacre, but this episode was very powerful. Props to HBO for educating us on Black History (I’ve also watched The Watchmen). History was my strongest subject in school, but unfortunately, I never heard about these horrific and tragic events. More people would have understood why Black Lives Matter
Yeah same here. England history lessons are very much learning about Henry the 8th and the second world but it’s rare that stuff like this is touched upon. Shame that HBO has to do it.
@@silviainthesky Very emotional. Saying the prayer and just understanding what has to happen. That had me in tears just watching her become engulfed like that.
The scene with Leti walking in the street was NOT a waste of time. Hipp was in the portal 200 years and it was only a week in their time. Leti had no idea Hipp was hurting on the other side. The scene itself was visually symbolic. It's showing us the over all devastation as Leti, a newer generation, emerges traumatized by the death of her unborn son's great grandmother and the rest but unscathed by the bombs and bullets and fire she walks though with real knowledge and power of the past , bringing it to the future! Phenomenal!!!!
Nah, I think the scenes more about the visual itself than making sense for the story/plots. Also, Leti was actually the one that realized Hippolyta is under high stress being the living motherboard for the time machine before they go into portal. She has every reasons to come back as fast as possible knowing full well Tulsa under complete chaos & burning down everywhere, as the portal could be gone from the building being destroyed.
Yeah another blogger innocently stated Leti is a a runner as shown in the Sundown episode, but things can drain you and take the fight out of you and I believed that is what happened with Leti, observing what her people went through in the past and are still going through without any repercussions. I always say, we cry for the dead but sometimes we should be crying for the living.
@lady grey wut? that's a weird comment. How come you think I don't understand the symbolism when I literally replied to OP comment, explaining everything. I understand everything but that doesn't mean it's a good scene, especially in-context with the story/plot itself. In fact, I think it's much better if Leti was actually running & struggling, despite having the invulnerability shielding her. It would portray a much better & stronger symbolism, while also making sense with the stroy/plots. You struggle, you work hard, you run for others & better future, instead of a "catwalk" into the fire ... Also, take notes, that Dee & Hippolyta were on the brink of death from limited time curse & drained exhaustion.
The fact that she was saved by her sons grandfathers and how tic saved his mom dad and uncle love how they played on the past saving the future and future saving the past
When Montrose and Tic were waiting for the "stranger" to arrive, it reminded me of a scene in Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban. The moment when Harry and Hermione go back in time to save Sirius. Harry is convinced his father returns to save them but really it's Harry from the future.
How was Tic a part of his father's past. He was the tall stranger that came out swinging the bat? Did Tic time travel there when he first went into the portal 🤔
Was she? Talk about a dues ex machina.... come in clutch to save D with her new super intelligents and future tech.....Why did she hold the portal open for so long???? They made it clear she could just open the portal at will....
Leti's plot was really powerful. She was protected by magic while everyone died around her. Much like how we watch these tragedies from the safety of our homes and we can't change what had already happened.
And damn, I know it’s a show, but when you think about all the trauma she has been through in the last year… if an actual human being went through that: confronting Monsters (human or not), ghosts, fires, dying!?!, living through Tulsa,… What an adrenaline & cortisol overload. That would send most people over the edge… Then again, after years of persecution and trauma, depression has been woven into the DNA of Black and Jewish people. Both groups suffer from depression in larger numbers than their white European counterparts, not surprisingly.
@@gernblan7071 Please, no, don't compare Black people to Jewish people. Not only Jewish is not a race and are not targeted by their skin color but the amount of privileges they today have and the fact that what they went through is very insignificant to what Black people went through, I think it is really disrespectful of you to include them here.
Historically, I think it is important to note that Tulsa had a THRIVING black community. A community that was just about completely self sustained by its black residents. A utopia for black citizens. I think the show did a fantastic job of demonstrating this and really drove it home when Montrose named many of the well accomplished community pillars that were murdered in the riot. Side note, I bawled my eyes out during this episode. I am 29 years old and in school, I feel that America definitely did a great job with their agenda to re frame and minimize slavery. For many decades public school education and popular culture made it seem as though racism was a thing of the past. Of course today in 2020, most people are aware that is not at all true, racism is still very much present. But one of the effects of this distancing and minimization, is making it seem as though it is less relevant because it was so long ago. This episode hit me personally in a way that made me more deeply aware that just under the surface, generational trauma is seething and emotionally corrosive in a very real way. This episode did an incredible job of showing without having to tell. Fantastic story telling and that poem by Sonia Sanchez was obscenely powerful and expertly placed.
I cried through the whole episode. I’m so sad that the darkness this country was founded on has done so little to change policies. The lynchings in the south were based on the same violence against the people who knew best how to farm the land, and their prosperity lead to a backlash against the black landowner. Can go into the whole genocide of the native american culture as well. These agendas were not hidden. It’s amazing how blind we’ve been and I mean white people, of which I am one. And even now we have white militia groups been deputized or empowered by the government and the police and the name of nationalism .
Funny the connections. I’m not black, nor bought up in the US of A. But from Watchmen and this series have come to know of the generational atrocities committed on black brothers. What I am is, a brother from a community often labelled with pejoratives, I’m part of a minority community in south east Asia. Throughout the series and especially last two episodes - bawled my eyes out. Surely pain has no nationality nor empathy a creed.
@@nettricegaskins1871 Point. Its just not being stolen / whitewashed as much. I wonder if its because of Black Panther or a reaction to the latest President or just a combination of many other things that have brought it all to the fore now but whatever the reason it couldnt have happened at a better time. I never thought I would see shows like Watchmen or Lovecraft country....only Power or the like (not that I dont enjoy those as well)
@@mastersmurfify Jackie Aina did a great video on the subject. It's actually been happening since the late 90s/early 2000s. Think of when Eminem dropped on the scene. Destiny's Child had a huge influence on it too. So, basically once black culture started making money--it became a consumer commodity. Jordan Peele is a large reason Lovecraft Country (written by a white dude) has gotten an adaptation. But the real remarkable thing was who they got to be showrunner, Misha Green. Its sad, but despite how much white people love to emulate black people--they still fight tooth and nail to keep them from having any power (such as executive producer of a major series). I'm glad Green has really been allowed to transform the source material.
This was a very emotional episode for me i caught myself crying at certain points. I love the way HBO has shown the massacre in Tulsa. I wasn't aware of it until Watchmen also. Its so sad but its also good that people are now aware of this.
I am not black my grandparents were from Mexico and I learned about the Tulsa massacre growing up as a JW. I was always interested in learning how the white Europeans and Spanish took over this land.
Nick Smith the US has caused a lot of horror with their useless war on drugs!! They didn’t learn anything from their prohibition on alcohol. Or maybe they did but our politicians are owned by the for profit prisons, pharmaceutical and insurance companies. We have created the monsters we say we are fighting in South America and the Middle East.
Same. I had no idea about Tulsa until Watchmen. I cried watching that and cried watching this last episode of Lovecraft Country. I’m also glad that history is being told...finally. People need to know.
Christina ain't sh*t. She could've gotten Lancaster's blood and taken it back to the Freeman apartment to permanently remove the curse from Dee. Another great recap from you, Paul.
Montrose saying the names of those killed during the Tulsa massacre and Leti calling the names of those who died in her house ( in episode 3) means a lot.
Ji-Ah is the wildcard in Cristina's plans. She has been waiting around St. Louis to step in and she'll either sacrifice herself to save Atticus or be a magical element to prevent/derail the magical spell of immortality. She is immortal afterall and her role as an alien comforter in Tic's dream will play out in the finale.
@Nick Smith your grandfather's trauma was due to him going to war to fight for his country. Black people's trauma is from white people killing their family members while forcing them too rough labor just because of their skin color. You hate to see the history of your people huh?
@Nick Smith I think you may be missing the point on inherited, it's not meaning that you magically pass on your pain but let's say you father drunkenly beat you because of his pain and you grow up and drink heavily either beat your wife or kids when growing up you say to yourself you will never be like your father. I'm not big on the bible but that is really where the old saying the sins of the father will be inherited by the son. This is heavily implied in this show across multiple storylines. Not just Tic and his father but also Leti and her mother and even Christain. This same trama can also be pass on to a society with racism. You have to learn how to be a racist you not born with it.
I live very close to Tulsa and I was not taught about this in school. Found out about it after I graduated. A good indicator about the attitude around here regarding the massacre: they wanted to change the names of certain districts and roads to reflect the history and memorialize the victims, and everyone got mad. At black people.
From what I got hippolyta had to return this ep because the last thing she said she has to be a mother for Dee. And now that Dee needs her as she is the only one that can help her she returned . Letty had to be the to get the book of names because like tic ancestry she is carrying on the legacy to create a new life being. A new name to the family . I love this. Show growing up to see now as a black scifi and horror and history lover. I have a show I can call my own
I swear this episode saddened me deeply. My Grandpop used to tell me, who fought in the Korean War and would be Atticus’ age now, he told me that I have no clue what true racism was. That he feared for his life daily. I laughed and told him niggas die everyday...I was young then. This episode helped me realize the naive ways even in my own people. I told my dad Emmet Till was in the show and he thought the story about him was made up. That’s scary.
Ruby doesn't care about being a redhead, she wants to understand the process of creating the potion so she can do it herself. Thus allowing her to subvert the relationship dynamic and allow herself (and her family) to survive Christina's plan, but not without sacrifice. A sacrifice who has already said he would do anything to protect his son.
Yes it's sad all these years nothing has changed and the hate is still inside some of them and this is why black lives matter is so important and will always be it's time we turn the clocks of time and stand up and unite ✊🏿
@Sarah Kim They do not teach this in school Black studies in college maybe but most of us our parents or grandparents teach us the truth or we find out from shows like this. America fails to realize the trauma our ancestors and our children will experience. They just want us to forget.
this made me so sad as a 16 year old but that episode made me realize alot. Some of these things STILL happen but is ignored like how Sundown towns still exist but are lowkey. People always question why we bring these things up, its to show how this still has effect its like a literal generational curse. I dont want to keep going through this, i dont want children to go through this either. Its time people stop ignoring this and if they wont then i’ll make sure to make them see it because i cant keep living through it and im not. This episode was so eye opening
It’s amazing what tv can do.. ppl are just realizing Tulsa was a real event and even if it’s 2020 we need justice for it the state of Oklahoma need to pay
Could you imagine being in a past like that and not tell everyone what you knew? I know why they didn’t and couldn’t but imagine the mental gymnastics.
Imagine telling them that in the future, we elected a charismatic black president that was widely viewed very positively by everyone and brought America back from financial ruin, followed by a racist white president so incompetent of his job that he ruined the country and indirectly killed many people
Am I the only one who is demanding for a Hippolyta spin-off series? 200years in the timestream is PLEEEEENTY of open creative material to play with. Great review for a truly SUPERB tv series....my goodness the quality standard for this season is set so high that I worry season 2 will fail to match it or it may end on an agonizingly tingling cliff hanger like Watchmen only to have the creator/writer of the show walk away afterwards. Lol.
I think she is. Remember Ruby told Christina that her mama was a hustler. I think she has a card up her sleeve, which goes back to the deck of cards Ruby had while in the basement.
Does anybody else think that Christina is from the future or has been to the future? How would she know that the police chief would be hurt in the first place? Why did she give leti protection before Ruby even made her promise not to hurt her? How would she know they would get the book of names? Why does everything seem to perfectly align to her plan with out her having to do much?
You have clearly not been paying attention. Leti tells Christina that there was an explosion outside the house that killed the police chief in the scene where they ask her to help save Dee.
Man, this episode was beyond moving. I teared up like 3 times. Your breakdowns are always amazing bruv. So much insight. The woman burning in the house knowing she had to play out the event of her and her family's death. So heartbreaking. Btw, you're acknowledgement to how sensitive this show can be for black folks like myself is awesome. much appreciated. Keep up the great work.
@@kiml.hooper7717 The observatory is in Kentucky. Misa the show runner mentioned on Twitter that they made a mistake by leaving Kansas on Dee's map. Hope I helped.
When Hippolyta turns into ORITHYIA BLUE! whaaaaaaat!!! I was hyped as hell. Definitely had tears. Seeing black woman go super siayan to save everybody.
The scene between Ruby and Christina I interpreted differently. Ruby disclosed that her mom was a hustler which is telling that she has her mom's hustle mentality. Ruby is not going to go against her sister and Atticus. The symbology of her turning the switch on the valve was showing how she is non turning the tables on Cristina. I'm not sure of the significance of the red head but Ruby is now playing Christina.
This episode was POWERFUL and very hard to watch I was in tears because STILL they want to tear us down BLACK PPL stay coming up from NOTHING literally NOTHING and thats wht they don't like and cant stand the pure RESILIENCE
Point of fact. A lot more than 36 people died. There were several black veterans who fortified a church, and fought there for 2 days. Survivors from that battle have Said that they had killed over 100 white men. Just outside the church. There are also survivors who told stories of the rivers and creeks being choked with bodies. And they are still finding mass graves to this day. The death toll was in the thousands.
@@BillionDollars_Stcyr7999 That's just sad, But hey the ones that think and agree or doing it physically is just as guilty, I don't know what they were taught then but for the ones that do know now have no excuse, Pray God lets you in Heaven bc you knew better,and No this is not directly at you or anybody in particular
@@heavyspoilers I'm actually a south african Indian and here we still have issues with racism watching this reminds me of our horrible past and makes me feel like judging people for the way they were born is wrong and racism is racism no matter your race and that's what I take away from this series so far P. Sorry for looking so deep into this
This episode made me so sad, the Tulsa desicration is basically happening again it's okay for them to kill us over envy and destroy our property but as Tamika Mallory said we learned looting from you, we have sacrificed so much in this world so much through health experiments, police brutality, hypocrisy in society and even neglecting family members mental health because of trying to survive through our own stuff, we deserve so much more than reparations because we are still going through traumatic experiences. You broke this down beautifully, I know competition is the root of it all by I wish humanity would do better, I hope by looking back we will start having empathy, Gov. Newsome and his wife's documentary about the American Lie is a great watch and could be a beginning.
definition, have you heard of Henrietta Lacks? If not please look into her. The book "The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks" lays out one of many true life instances of the terrifying relationship between Blacks and science and medicine
Its possible to make Christina think she is all on board but I think that was more of a wink to the book as when she becomes white the woman is a redhead.
Ruby does not want to be white, she says as much in episode 5 and episode 6. They are not a master/slave relationship and Ruby is not as Christina's beck and call. Ruby can 100% pull the okie doke on Christina when they get to Ardham, Christina does not want to be a white man, an argument can be made for her enjoying the power and the ease by which she can move through the world as William, but she doesn't want to be a man, she wants the power the appearing as a man affords her and she also wants immortality. And a key component you are missing is that Ruby and Christina are in a relationship, that is ebbing very close to a romantic relationship, at the very least they are smitten with each other, even under all of Ruby's anger and Christina's coldness and calculating ways. Christina states that Ruby is an unforeseen variable to her accession to the top, to getting the thing she has worked towards for all this time, the thing she killed her father, and his sect of The Order Of The Ancient Dawn for. And does Ruby have a reason to care about Tic? From what she's seen, all he's done is cause her sister and their family problems.
I realize how hard it is to "transfer" a book to film; you cannot possibly get in every detail. What the this series grabs is complimented by your insight into the book and some history. Thanks, again for your telling tale...
Dude, I like “YOU”!!! You didn’t have to apologize for the slave/master analogy, but it shows who you are at the core of your person brotha! 👏🏾🙌🏾👍🏾👍🏾🤙🏾
I love the book and most of the show has left me wishing they stayed more true to it, but this episode was fantastic and it cements my opinion that Hippolyta is the most badass character on the show
Hard disagree letting black creators make their own interpretation of a book written by a middle aged white man that covers so many racial issues he has no experience with was the right choice
This episode is good but I also noticed a lot of Letia hate and I’m not sure. The girl was emotional and she was tired. Protected or not doesn’t stop exhaustion. No one is pointing out Ruby words. She was right into telling Letia about them. Tic and Montrose seems to only care bout themselves and it shows a lot through out the series. I’m starting to see Christina motive she’s not trying to harm women but men. She’s tired of the wheel in a way she’s Dany, from Game of thrones. Like how can anyone get mad at Letia when Tic was doing the same thing. Lying, hiding, casting behind her backs. Montrose also was hiding, lying, secrets. No one on this show is perfect the only one whose up front is Ruby and Christina. But I can’t wait to see the finale sad it’s only a limited show but I’m glad it is. Cause a season two might just ruined it.
Paul, thanks again for a thorough analysis of the images displayed during the episode. The burning of the "Black Wall Street" was a difficult watch indeed. And please take note that this was not the only isolated incident that occurred, there were several brutal attacks on affluent black communities in this era that reduced those communities to rubble and desolation.
Was it my imagination that Letti was wearing a red dress in the fire just like in the dream both her and Atticus shared where they were in the burning house. Good synopsis, once again. Thanks for the correction, we need more people to admit when they made an error or were misinformed.
Couldn't agree more. This show just keeps getting better each episode. I bought the book and am looking forward to diving in. Great video and breakdown!!
It's amazing how shows are educating viewers which shows at least in America how history has been "whitewashed" Thank you for putting in the time and effort into this show and also watchmen to learn a bit of American history and also educate ur viewers. It's disheartening that as a 40 y/o American I learned about tulsa via a fictional television show. Keep up the great work 💪🏾
Thank you for educating yourself on Tulsa and for also not calling it a race riot. But rather calling it what it was a massacre against black people committed by white people.
Being burned alive just seems like one of the most painful and horrific ways to die. If you were lucky, you'd suffocate from carbon monoxide poisoning before the fire got to your body. In terms of being merciful, I had hoped that Leti would have had the strength just to shoot them, rather that let them face the horror of burning. I know she was in the shock of the moment, but I still hoped.
@@gin6781 That's the CO poisoning I was referring to. But, that only happens when the surroundings are burning, not if the fire is directly applied to the body (e.g. Richard Pryor). In this episode, she should have succumbed when the room filled with smoke.
The main thing that upset me in this episode was pacing.... Tic learning about who his father might be deserved a longer conversation. When Hippolyta appeared After being gone for weeks. She did explain but it deserved a longer conversation...
What pissed me off was when Hippolyta was damn near dead tryin to keep the portal open while Leti ass is walkin as slow as possible down the street🤦🏾♂️
Ikr... Clearly I understand the show was trying to make a visual statement with everything getting destroyed all round her.... But it didn't make any sense
wallcity318 I thought it would’ve been equally as cool for Leti to sprint with the book and the fire around her! I wanted Montrose to open up the window and tell her to hurry up!!!!
@Nick Smith does it matter? Any percentage is evil and the fact you're asking trying to promote and ignorant counterpoint is stupid. The ol only 6% of white people had slaves argument. Yet a 100% of the laws of the Land was anti black that was created by white men.
@Nick Smith read the book they were her property. All the information u seek. Read the book from here to equality. Full of research. Read the book the half has never been told. It answers ur questions if u really want to know.
This was a powerful, emotional & in some ways a historically informative episode. Overall it’s a fantastic series deserving of award recognition that shows HBO is still on the ball.
@@MrMlsmitr Hmmm, that makes sense, since Mayfield, KY is just a two hour drive from St. Louis, which helps explain how Tic got there so quick after Leti called him and told him Hippolyta was headed there. Why does Hipp's map have Kansas written on it as corresponding with the coordinates inside the orrery, tho?
Misha Green confirmed on Twitter that it was a mistake. In post production she didn’t notice Dee’s map said Kansas at the top until fans pointed it out later. The observatory is in Kentucky.
There are so many gems and insights in this episode which by far was the most moving episode. I had tears, I mean crying spells with snot and all. I mean the issues of internal homophobia, generational trauma, sibling rivalry, parent-child dynamics, generational healing, the power of secrets, self loathing, familial strength, resilience, the glory of mother (board), forgiveness, life altering decisions, the truth in a lie (white lie is a Black truth, hence saying Black's are savage the lie and for Black's saying whites are savage their truth), feminism, power in general, and much more. It feels like we have all been thrown around in a loop within time for an hour and are in a state of emotional and cerebral shock. I don't believe I have ever experienced this much emotion over a creation but then I realize the majority of it is real and ever-present reality today in 2020! Great review !
This was really and truly my most favorite episode. I honestly started to not like the series after the Meet Me in Daegu episode...I could not appreciate the relevance. But in this episode, I actually cried...going back to Tulsa had to be the most traumatizing shit for Montrose...it was so very haunting to me...OMG H finding her true identity sent me over the moon! The blue hair really did it for me....the strength she displayed in saving her daughter is REALITY...I can not wait til it is my turn to ascend to other universes to live and learn...This was just a great episode overall...I fell in love with the series all over again...
I know that Hippolytas dress is kind of a paisley print but as Tic was messing with the wires on the machine, I thought her dress looked like tangled wires...
I teared with anger while watching this, I felt the pain that the characters felt when they couldn’t warn nobody because I would.. imagine what these ppl would achieved if this never happened
As a black man... this episode was by far the most emotional for me and quite a few of my friends as well for we’ve all posted about this on Facebook. Very emotional because did the history our ancestors endured!
Correction - 300 people died in the massacre. Seems like there’s a lot of differing numbers on the scale of it including 36 as mentioned in the video which appears at the top of google. However the NY Times have stated that up to 300 were killed during it.
Here's the search I typed in to discover 36 deaths www.google.com/search?q=the+tulsa+massacre&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB868GB868&oq=the+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j46j69i59j69i61j69i60l2j69i65l2.1379j1j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Seems like things are still being downplayed today.
www.nytimes.com/2020/06/20/us/tulsa-greenwood-massacre.html
300 people died please correct but as always good video otherwise
Mayfield is in the state of Kentucky.
@@pollypuffington2243 Thank you, that bothered me.
@@pollypuffington2243 did he say less?
Thanks for the correction
Montrose is the unsung hero of this episode. He's the only one that lived through Tulsa, and truly knew what happened there, and suffers PTSD because of it, but he still willingly went back to relive it, and get the book.
facts
"Reluctantly" is the word. He went because he had to. Michael Williams is a great actor too, he really sold his role in this series. It was a hard watch.
Reluctant is exactly what I would call it too.
@@hugh_jasso He definitely went reluctantly, but he willingly faced his fears, and went anyway for his family.
I'm willing to reluctantly say you're both right...lol
Montrose's storyline was the most heartbreaking for me.
Yes. But it speaks to the trauma he carries and why he tries to numb the pain.
I hate it really.
@@fonzarelly3154 why’s that?
I really didn’t want to see them go back to the Tulsa Massacre, but this episode was very powerful. Props to HBO for educating us on Black History (I’ve also watched The Watchmen). History was my strongest subject in school, but unfortunately, I never heard about these horrific and tragic events. More people would have understood why Black Lives Matter
There is also the Elaine massacre
There were quite a few massacres
Mirasol Balaga absolutely
Yeah same here. England history lessons are very much learning about Henry the 8th and the second world but it’s rare that stuff like this is touched upon. Shame that HBO has to do it.
@Joey May They never taught it in school...it was along with many other things omitted from school curriculums.
Leti burning in the same dress as her dream....while both times standing in front of a matriarch.....of the same line...
That was a powerful scene.
@@silviainthesky Very emotional. Saying the prayer and just understanding what has to happen. That had me in tears just watching her become engulfed like that.
Leti became Hannah in the flames at Titus' home carrying the book to safety
@@debrajenkins5390 added similarities, both were pregnant. Same bloodline to boot.
Tic is wearing the same tie and shirt in his dream with Hannah. But Hannah spoke to him but not Leti.
Michael K Williams NEEDS an emmy for this episode alone. I cant think of another actor who could've made Montrose more of an 3-D character.
His acting was exceptional this episode
One of the best actors to ever live
His acting overall is exceptional! I've enjoyed his character since episode 2. Definitely deserves his flowers NOW.
Yes, he demands one with this performance. He made us feel the horror of that night!
Hes forever underrated him and Bokeem
The scene with Leti walking in the street was NOT a waste of time. Hipp was in the portal 200 years and it was only a week in their time. Leti had no idea Hipp was hurting on the other side.
The scene itself was visually symbolic. It's showing us the over all devastation as Leti, a newer generation, emerges traumatized by the death of her unborn son's great grandmother and the rest but unscathed by the bombs and bullets and fire she walks though with real knowledge and power of the past , bringing it to the future!
Phenomenal!!!!
Nah, I think the scenes more about the visual itself than making sense for the story/plots. Also, Leti was actually the one that realized Hippolyta is under high stress being the living motherboard for the time machine before they go into portal. She has every reasons to come back as fast as possible knowing full well Tulsa under complete chaos & burning down everywhere, as the portal could be gone from the building being destroyed.
Yeah another blogger innocently stated Leti is a a runner as shown in the Sundown episode, but things can drain you and take the fight out of you and I believed that is what happened with Leti, observing what her people went through in the past and are still going through without any repercussions. I always say, we cry for the dead but sometimes we should be crying for the living.
@lady grey wut? that's a weird comment. How come you think I don't understand the symbolism when I literally replied to OP comment, explaining everything. I understand everything but that doesn't mean it's a good scene, especially in-context with the story/plot itself.
In fact, I think it's much better if Leti was actually running & struggling, despite having the invulnerability shielding her. It would portray a much better & stronger symbolism, while also making sense with the stroy/plots. You struggle, you work hard, you run for others & better future, instead of a "catwalk" into the fire ...
Also, take notes, that Dee & Hippolyta were on the brink of death from limited time curse & drained exhaustion.
The fact that she was saved by her sons grandfathers and how tic saved his mom dad and uncle love how they played on the past saving the future and future saving the past
It also captured how the world and time slow down and become distorted when you are traumatized.
When Montrose and Tic were waiting for the "stranger" to arrive, it reminded me of a scene in Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban. The moment when Harry and Hermione go back in time to save Sirius. Harry is convinced his father returns to save them but really it's Harry from the future.
Yessssss
Yeah
Yes exactly
How was Tic a part of his father's past. He was the tall stranger that came out swinging the bat? Did Tic time travel there when he first went into the portal 🤔
@@andreafrancois8118 with time travel the effect may happen before the cause.thats the confusion with time travel.
When Montrose listed the names of those that died and how they died, it really impacted me. I’m not African American but I sure felt it.
It means you're human😁
you've got a moral compass. hold on to it. you'll need it in this crazy world
Ripped my heart out
Look up Red Summer...
Yes I cried really hard during that scene
Hippolyta was this episodes real MVP, she really came through clutch with the motherboard play.
Big facts
Was she? Talk about a dues ex machina.... come in clutch to save D with her new super intelligents and future tech.....Why did she hold the portal open for so long???? They made it clear she could just open the portal at will....
Yessss
Yeah, but Atticus wit that bat tho...
Yes, a literal motherboard. Being as most mothers would literally do anything to save their child’s life.
Leti's plot was really powerful. She was protected by magic while everyone died around her. Much like how we watch these tragedies from the safety of our homes and we can't change what had already happened.
*Bars*😢
And damn, I know it’s a show, but when you think about all the trauma she has been through in the last year… if an actual human being went through that: confronting Monsters (human or not), ghosts, fires, dying!?!, living through Tulsa,… What an adrenaline & cortisol overload. That would send most people over the edge…
Then again, after years of persecution and trauma, depression has been woven into the DNA of Black and Jewish people. Both groups suffer from depression in larger numbers than their white European counterparts, not surprisingly.
@@anotherbaddcreation 100 percent
@@gernblan7071 Please, no, don't compare Black people to Jewish people. Not only Jewish is not a race and are not targeted by their skin color but the amount of privileges they today have and the fact that what they went through is very insignificant to what Black people went through, I think it is really disrespectful of you to include them here.
@@thatguybutitsactuallyagirl5384 Exactly!
Historically, I think it is important to note that Tulsa had a THRIVING black community. A community that was just about completely self sustained by its black residents. A utopia for black citizens. I think the show did a fantastic job of demonstrating this and really drove it home when Montrose named many of the well accomplished community pillars that were murdered in the riot.
Side note, I bawled my eyes out during this episode. I am 29 years old and in school, I feel that America definitely did a great job with their agenda to re frame and minimize slavery. For many decades public school education and popular culture made it seem as though racism was a thing of the past. Of course today in 2020, most people are aware that is not at all true, racism is still very much present. But one of the effects of this distancing and minimization, is making it seem as though it is less relevant because it was so long ago. This episode hit me personally in a way that made me more deeply aware that just under the surface, generational trauma is seething and emotionally corrosive in a very real way. This episode did an incredible job of showing without having to tell. Fantastic story telling and that poem by Sonia Sanchez was obscenely powerful and expertly placed.
I cried through the whole episode. I’m so sad that the darkness this country was founded on has done so little to change policies. The lynchings in the south were based on the same violence against the people who knew best how to farm the land, and their prosperity lead to a backlash against the black landowner. Can go into the whole genocide of the native american culture as well. These agendas were not hidden. It’s amazing how blind we’ve been and I mean white people, of which I am one. And even now we have white militia groups been deputized or empowered by the government and the police and the name of nationalism .
Yeah it was called the black wall street.
I balled my eyes out too...like a baby. The emotions being drawn out of this series is necessary and not just for black folks but for EVERYONE.
Funny the connections. I’m not black, nor bought up in the US of A. But from Watchmen and this series have come to know of the generational atrocities committed on black brothers. What I am is, a brother from a community often labelled with pejoratives, I’m part of a minority community in south east Asia. Throughout the series and especially last two episodes - bawled my eyes out. Surely pain has no nationality nor empathy a creed.
HBO has been on point with black content for a while now.
@Calvin Johnson It's because their writers are creating with/through an African American lense instead of using stereotypical troupes.
@Calvin Johnson When has black culture not been trendy in America?
It's why I still subscribe to the Pay-TV channel.
@@nettricegaskins1871 Point. Its just not being stolen / whitewashed as much. I wonder if its because of Black Panther or a reaction to the latest President or just a combination of many other things that have brought it all to the fore now but whatever the reason it couldnt have happened at a better time. I never thought I would see shows like Watchmen or Lovecraft country....only Power or the like (not that I dont enjoy those as well)
@@mastersmurfify Jackie Aina did a great video on the subject. It's actually been happening since the late 90s/early 2000s. Think of when Eminem dropped on the scene. Destiny's Child had a huge influence on it too. So, basically once black culture started making money--it became a consumer commodity. Jordan Peele is a large reason Lovecraft Country (written by a white dude) has gotten an adaptation. But the real remarkable thing was who they got to be showrunner, Misha Green. Its sad, but despite how much white people love to emulate black people--they still fight tooth and nail to keep them from having any power (such as executive producer of a major series). I'm glad Green has really been allowed to transform the source material.
That opera music at the end... so beautiful... so emotional...
I love the music in this show
Yes...made me emotional tbh
I loved that piece, it seriously evoked some emotions.
It sounds like it's Audra McDonald singing the song at the end.
@@nhlder1027 Soprano Janai Brugger.
Leti is saved by both Tic’s grandfathers. Dora’s dad is Tic’s grandfather as well.
Correct
Not knowing they saved their great-grandson
This was a very emotional episode for me i caught myself crying at certain points. I love the way HBO has shown the massacre in Tulsa. I wasn't aware of it until Watchmen also. Its so sad but its also good that people are now aware of this.
Yeah definitely and I’m glad they didn’t pull any punches.
there are some really good tulsa docs here on youtube if you're into it.
I am not black my grandparents were from Mexico and I learned about the Tulsa massacre growing up as a JW. I was always interested in learning how the white Europeans and Spanish took over this land.
Nick Smith the US has caused a lot of horror with their useless war on drugs!! They didn’t learn anything from their prohibition on alcohol. Or maybe they did but our politicians are owned by the for profit prisons, pharmaceutical and insurance companies. We have created the monsters we say we are fighting in South America and the Middle East.
Same. I had no idea about Tulsa until Watchmen. I cried watching that and cried watching this last episode of Lovecraft Country. I’m also glad that history is being told...finally. People need to know.
Christina ain't sh*t. She could've gotten Lancaster's blood and taken it back to the Freeman apartment to permanently remove the curse from Dee. Another great recap from you, Paul.
Montrose saying the names of those killed during the Tulsa massacre and Leti calling the names of those who died in her house ( in episode 3) means a lot.
My father and uncles survived the East St Louis race war in 1917. Episode 9 is VERY moving to me. Thanks for the spoilers!
Bless you 🙏🏿
You have the blood of survivors and warriors
@@SymbianBlack THANK YOU!
Bless your family!
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Ji-Ah is the wildcard in Cristina's plans. She has been waiting around St. Louis to step in and she'll either sacrifice herself to save Atticus or be a magical element to prevent/derail the magical spell of immortality. She is immortal afterall and her role as an alien comforter in Tic's dream will play out in the finale.
I peeped she was the alien in the dream sequence also and after this episode the Jackie Robinson character made so much more sense.
Nice observation!
You were right
I also think this show just like Watchman is trying to show us exactly how racism and trauma can be inherited....
Ms. T need to view watchmen once Lovecraft is finished...hearing about the show on a lot of other reviews...
Please do watch it it's so good.... Sadly they do not plan to make any more seasons☹
@Nick Smith your grandfather's trauma was due to him going to war to fight for his country. Black people's trauma is from white people killing their family members while forcing them too rough labor just because of their skin color. You hate to see the history of your people huh?
@Nick Smith I think you may be missing the point on inherited, it's not meaning that you magically pass on your pain but let's say you father drunkenly beat you because of his pain and you grow up and drink heavily either beat your wife or kids when growing up you say to yourself you will never be like your father. I'm not big on the bible but that is really where the old saying the sins of the father will be inherited by the son. This is heavily implied in this show across multiple storylines. Not just Tic and his father but also Leti and her mother and even Christain. This same trama can also be pass on to a society with racism. You have to learn how to be a racist you not born with it.
@Nick Smith some would say otherwise www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/traces-of-genetic-trauma-can-be-tweaked/
I live very close to Tulsa and I was not taught about this in school. Found out about it after I graduated. A good indicator about the attitude around here regarding the massacre: they wanted to change the names of certain districts and roads to reflect the history and memorialize the victims, and everyone got mad. At black people.
From what I got hippolyta had to return this ep because the last thing she said she has to be a mother for Dee. And now that Dee needs her as she is the only one that can help her she returned . Letty had to be the to get the book of names because like tic ancestry she is carrying on the legacy to create a new life being. A new name to the family . I love this. Show growing up to see now as a black scifi and horror and history lover. I have a show I can call my own
Very true. I've never felt this way about a tv show in my life until Lovecraft Country. It's my favorite genre's wrapped into one.
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I swear this episode saddened me deeply. My Grandpop used to tell me, who fought in the Korean War and would be Atticus’ age now, he told me that I have no clue what true racism was. That he feared for his life daily. I laughed and told him niggas die everyday...I was young then. This episode helped me realize the naive ways even in my own people. I told my dad Emmet Till was in the show and he thought the story about him was made up. That’s scary.
Ruby doesn't care about being a redhead, she wants to understand the process of creating the potion so she can do it herself. Thus allowing her to subvert the relationship dynamic and allow herself (and her family) to survive Christina's plan, but not without sacrifice. A sacrifice who has already said he would do anything to protect his son.
And Michael K. Williams is the most underrated actor of all time. Get this man an EMMY!
I cried like a baby at the end but I also had three glasses of wine 😩. The history of our suffering runs deep
missraeray same....it got me...😢
Usually i dont comment but i was super emotional this episode, Montrose really had me worked up
The whole episode got me crying a little. Damn the show hits hard
Me too. ❤️
Ughhh I was crying too this episode was really sad 😢
That old lady finding out they was about to die and choosing not to change the past was the ultimate sacrifice
As a black person I found this episode very hard to watch. I had to fast forward some parts.
Yeah the whole alley scene is really hard to get though
Yes
I'm black as well but, this is our history. Nothing has changed.
Yes it's sad all these years nothing has changed and the hate is still inside some of them and this is why black lives matter is so important and will always be it's time we turn the clocks of time and stand up and unite ✊🏿
@Sarah Kim They do not teach this in school Black studies in college maybe but most of us our parents or grandparents teach us the truth or we find out from shows like this. America fails to realize the trauma our ancestors and our children will experience. They just want us to forget.
this made me so sad as a 16 year old but that episode made me realize alot. Some of these things STILL happen but is ignored like how Sundown towns still exist but are lowkey. People always question why we bring these things up, its to show how this still has effect its like a literal generational curse. I dont want to keep going through this, i dont want children to go through this either. Its time people stop ignoring this and if they wont then i’ll make sure to make them see it because i cant keep living through it and im not. This episode was so eye opening
topsie and bopsie are easily the scariest thing in the show so far
After the realities of white supremacy, I concur
they'd have caught her sooner if they weren't breakdancing all the time
Which is why I skipped the episode lol
I love the fact that hippolyta ends up turning into orynthia blue from her daughters comics. A real superhero
It’s amazing what tv can do.. ppl are just realizing Tulsa was a real event and even if it’s 2020 we need justice for it the state of Oklahoma need to pay
Could you imagine being in a past like that and not tell everyone what you knew? I know why they didn’t and couldn’t but imagine the mental gymnastics.
Imagine telling them that in the future, we elected a charismatic black president that was widely viewed very positively by everyone and brought America back from financial ruin, followed by a racist white president so incompetent of his job that he ruined the country and indirectly killed many people
@@pacificcoastbreeze Obama was garbage I'm sorry
Am I the only one who is demanding for a Hippolyta spin-off series?
200years in the timestream is PLEEEEENTY of open creative material to play with.
Great review for a truly SUPERB tv series....my goodness the quality standard for this season is set so high that I worry season 2 will fail to match it or it may end on an agonizingly tingling cliff hanger like Watchmen only to have the creator/writer of the show walk away afterwards. Lol.
It’s ironic Ruby called out Leti for being selfish when she displays many of the same qualities this episode
It’s about time
I really hope that Ruby is playing Christina. Also hoping the family can flip it to barricade Christina so that Tic survives.
I think she is. Remember Ruby told Christina that her mama was a hustler. I think she has a card up her sleeve, which goes back to the deck of cards Ruby had while in the basement.
Does anybody else think that Christina is from the future or has been to the future? How would she know that the police chief would be hurt in the first place? Why did she give leti protection before Ruby even made her promise not to hurt her? How would she know they would get the book of names? Why does everything seem to perfectly align to her plan with out her having to do much?
Good point!!
Cause the story writing is terrible and they are just throwing in stuff to make it work....
@@skullmore101 so why do you tune in every week?
You have clearly not been paying attention. Leti tells Christina that there was an explosion outside the house that killed the police chief in the scene where they ask her to help save Dee.
Vishwam Sankaran no your not paying attention remember when she had Ruby put that rock in his desk drawer? Rude ass
After Tulsa was bombed and burned, post cards were made of the carnage. Pictures of them can still be found online.
I always come here after my episodes
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Man, this episode was beyond moving. I teared up like 3 times. Your breakdowns are always amazing bruv. So much insight. The woman burning in the house knowing she had to play out the event of her and her family's death. So heartbreaking. Btw, you're acknowledgement to how sensitive this show can be for black folks like myself is awesome. much appreciated. Keep up the great work.
This show is not getting enough attention
You know why.
one more thing Hippolyta is not" shrinking "anymore.... her electric elevation shows her rising above it all.
Mayfield is a City in Kentucky. So, it's the same observatory.
it's also a city in Kansas. Hippolyta's map had Kansas written on it.
@@kiml.hooper7717 The Observatory is in Kentucky, they mentioned it three times.
@@kiml.hooper7717 The observatory is in Kentucky. Misa the show runner mentioned on Twitter that they made a mistake by leaving Kansas on Dee's map. Hope I helped.
@@ayshajohn2439 ah, a continuity error.
When Hippolyta turns into ORITHYIA BLUE! whaaaaaaat!!! I was hyped as hell. Definitely had tears. Seeing black woman go super siayan to save everybody.
i don’t know HOW I DIDN’T CATCH THAT!
i LOVE Hippolyta’s character so fucking much.
The scene between Ruby and Christina I interpreted differently. Ruby disclosed that her mom was a hustler which is telling that she has her mom's hustle mentality. Ruby is not going to go against her sister and Atticus. The symbology of her turning the switch on the valve was showing how she is non turning the tables on Cristina. I'm not sure of the significance of the red head but Ruby is now playing Christina.
I hope you’re right. I do think Ruby got a lot of her mother and her.
I hope she’s not blinded by her potion power.
I thought the same thing, that she was exposing who she is as well " a hustler". I though of the red hair as being RUBY RED ,, IDK though
This episode was POWERFUL and very hard to watch I was in tears because STILL they want to tear us down BLACK PPL stay coming up from NOTHING literally NOTHING and thats wht they don't like and cant stand the pure RESILIENCE
Exactly, if we were all they portray us to be, we would no longer be here.
Point of fact. A lot more than 36 people died. There were several black veterans who fortified a church, and fought there for 2 days. Survivors from that battle have Said that they had killed over 100 white men. Just outside the church. There are also survivors who told stories of the rivers and creeks being choked with bodies. And they are still finding mass graves to this day. The death toll was in the thousands.
I wasn’t phased at all seeing a cop sacrificing black bodies to save himself. It’s just America
Indeed the bodies & organ trafficking
Sacrificial wow is that the way you see black lives killed, you got issues boy.
@@shyalexander4919 😂🤣😅 how else is it happening
@@BillionDollars_Stcyr7999 That's just sad, But hey the ones that think and agree or doing it physically is just as guilty, I don't know what they were taught then but for the ones that do know now have no excuse, Pray God lets you in Heaven bc you knew better,and No this is not directly at you or anybody in particular
@@shyalexander4919 HUH 😭😭
Damn this episode was crazy imagine how savage the whites were yet called others savages this episode was really crazy
yeah really difficult to watch as a white person as well knowing that this is the kinda stuff my people have done.
@@heavyspoilers I'm actually a south african Indian and here we still have issues with racism watching this reminds me of our horrible past and makes me feel like judging people for the way they were born is wrong and racism is racism no matter your race and that's what I take away from this series so far P. Sorry for looking so deep into this
They still out there
@@bboutthafather who
If I have a girl, I'm naming her Misha. I will gladly tell my daughter why.
Misha is the shit... I wish underground could come back
Isn't Misha a Russian boys name?
@@jadakissable9 I really do miss Underground too!!
@@Kinos141 it is generally a boy name in Russia...means bear and who is like God
Right..She is an AMAZING writer..This show is Just as Great as Underground....I Love both shows#!!!
This episode made me so sad, the Tulsa desicration is basically happening again it's okay for them to kill us over envy and destroy our property but as Tamika Mallory said we learned looting from you, we have sacrificed so much in this world so much through health experiments, police brutality, hypocrisy in society and even neglecting family members mental health because of trying to survive through our own stuff, we deserve so much more than reparations because we are still going through traumatic experiences. You broke this down beautifully, I know competition is the root of it all by I wish humanity would do better, I hope by looking back we will start having empathy, Gov. Newsome and his wife's documentary about the American Lie is a great watch and could be a beginning.
More like Tulsa Massacre.
@@nicolewilliams3647 you are right correction made
Newsome is one of the most corrupt governors currently in office but ok
Great episode I hope there’s a second season
It was, I agree
definition, have you heard of Henrietta Lacks? If not please look into her. The book "The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks" lays out one of many true life instances of the terrifying relationship between Blacks and science and medicine
Ok Meghann. With your gorgeous self
Ruby's redhead comment disarmed Christine and that was Ruby's objective.
Its possible to make Christina think she is all on board but I think that was more of a wink to the book as when she becomes white the woman is a redhead.
I've never been this affected by a show like this one in all my life , never forget Tulsa ✊🏿
hahaha i thought it was just me.
Ruby does not want to be white, she says as much in episode 5 and episode 6. They are not a master/slave relationship and Ruby is not as Christina's beck and call. Ruby can 100% pull the okie doke on Christina when they get to Ardham, Christina does not want to be a white man, an argument can be made for her enjoying the power and the ease by which she can move through the world as William, but she doesn't want to be a man, she wants the power the appearing as a man affords her and she also wants immortality. And a key component you are missing is that Ruby and Christina are in a relationship, that is ebbing very close to a romantic relationship, at the very least they are smitten with each other, even under all of Ruby's anger and Christina's coldness and calculating ways. Christina states that Ruby is an unforeseen variable to her accession to the top, to getting the thing she has worked towards for all this time, the thing she killed her father, and his sect of The Order Of The Ancient Dawn for. And does Ruby have a reason to care about Tic? From what she's seen, all he's done is cause her sister and their family problems.
I realize how hard it is to "transfer" a book to film; you cannot possibly get in every detail. What the this series grabs is complimented by your insight into the book and some history. Thanks, again for your telling tale...
Prefer the series to the book right now tbh
Dude, I like “YOU”!!! You didn’t have to apologize for the slave/master analogy, but it shows who you are at the core of your person brotha! 👏🏾🙌🏾👍🏾👍🏾🤙🏾
I don’t understand how this show keeps getting better. And your breakdown always comes thru👍🏾👍🏾
I love the book and most of the show has left me wishing they stayed more true to it, but this episode was fantastic and it cements my opinion that Hippolyta is the most badass character on the show
Hard disagree letting black creators make their own interpretation of a book written by a middle aged white man that covers so many racial issues he has no experience with was the right choice
@@TrueGamer22887 yeah I just wanted to see Scylla, and the whole "Myst" vibe this chapter gave off in the book was what made it my favorite.
This episode is good but I also noticed a lot of Letia hate and I’m not sure. The girl was emotional and she was tired. Protected or not doesn’t stop exhaustion. No one is pointing out Ruby words. She was right into telling Letia about them. Tic and Montrose seems to only care bout themselves and it shows a lot through out the series. I’m starting to see Christina motive she’s not trying to harm women but men. She’s tired of the wheel in a way she’s Dany, from Game of thrones. Like how can anyone get mad at Letia when Tic was doing the same thing. Lying, hiding, casting behind her backs. Montrose also was hiding, lying, secrets. No one on this show is perfect the only one whose up front is Ruby and Christina. But I can’t wait to see the finale sad it’s only a limited show but I’m glad it is. Cause a season two might just ruined it.
I love how you make it clear u don't know everything lol. Great job! You make the episodes make more meaning! 👏
The fact that you put a picture of the game Road Rash right after you said it and I thought about it makes you super cool. 🤓👌🏾 keep it up!
Paul, thanks again for a thorough analysis of the images displayed during the episode. The burning of the "Black Wall Street" was a difficult watch indeed. And please take note that this was not the only isolated incident that occurred, there were several brutal attacks on affluent black communities in this era that reduced those communities to rubble and desolation.
I just recently found this channel. You're kind of a dork but do really good with the breakdown and pointing out things i didn't notice.
Was it my imagination that Letti was wearing a red dress in the fire just like in the dream both her and Atticus shared where they were in the burning house. Good synopsis, once again. Thanks for the correction, we need more people to admit when they made an error or were misinformed.
My great grandmother died during the Riot in 1921 .. so seeing how the included the riot in the show brought back so many memories for my mother
Finally!!
Love your vids man, keep it going ❤️
Thank you
Great work! You picked up things that I didn’t even catch 👍🏾
Love that lettie had the same dress 👗 as she did in the dream 😍
Didn't even peep that...
Good job...
Couldn't agree more. This show just keeps getting better each episode. I bought the book and am looking forward to diving in. Great video and breakdown!!
It's amazing how shows are educating viewers which shows at least in America how history has been "whitewashed" Thank you for putting in the time and effort into this show and also watchmen to learn a bit of American history and also educate ur viewers. It's disheartening that as a 40 y/o American I learned about tulsa via a fictional television show. Keep up the great work 💪🏾
Thank you for educating yourself on Tulsa and for also not calling it a race riot. But rather calling it what it was a massacre against black people committed by white people.
Tulsa is only one of many. St Louis, Rosewood are some I know of. It makes you feel helpless.
Being burned alive just seems like one of the most painful and horrific ways to die. If you were lucky, you'd suffocate from carbon monoxide poisoning before the fire got to your body. In terms of being merciful, I had hoped that Leti would have had the strength just to shoot them, rather that let them face the horror of burning. I know she was in the shock of the moment, but I still hoped.
The smoke inhalation will kill you first.
@@gin6781 That's the CO poisoning I was referring to. But, that only happens when the surroundings are burning, not if the fire is directly applied to the body (e.g. Richard Pryor). In this episode, she should have succumbed when the room filled with smoke.
The main thing that upset me in this episode was pacing.... Tic learning about who his father might be deserved a longer conversation. When Hippolyta appeared After being gone for weeks. She did explain but it deserved a longer conversation...
What pissed me off was when Hippolyta was damn near dead tryin to keep the portal open while Leti ass is walkin as slow as possible down the street🤦🏾♂️
Ikr... Clearly I understand the show was trying to make a visual statement with everything getting destroyed all round her.... But it didn't make any sense
@@wallcity318 yes that was annoying. We get it, she’s invincible. No need to drag it out for dramatic effect.
wallcity318 I thought it would’ve been equally as cool for Leti to sprint with the book and the fire around her! I wanted Montrose to open up the window and tell her to hurry up!!!!
I thought she died and they mourned her death
I cried watching the masacre ! What horrible things white men has done to black people! 😭
Don’t exclude white women. They had slaves also
@Nick Smith does it matter? Any percentage is evil and the fact you're asking trying to promote and ignorant counterpoint is stupid. The ol only 6% of white people had slaves argument. Yet a 100% of the laws of the Land was anti black that was created by white men.
i sobbed, i legit had to find tissue because my nose was starting to run. smh
@@djbowus your exactly right it must be something really special about black people to make other races want to put them down so bad
@Nick Smith read the book they were her property. All the information u seek. Read the book from here to equality. Full of research. Read the book the half has never been told. It answers ur questions if u really want to know.
When the bat rolled over, I said “JACKIE ROBINSON!!!” 😂
This episode was powerful and sad.💧 All of my love goes out to those who were victims of the massacre (not riot).❤️🌹
This was a powerful, emotional & in some ways a historically informative episode. Overall it’s a fantastic series deserving of award recognition that shows HBO is still on the ball.
I’m an American person of color and I absolutely love the way you orate the these stories.
For someone who was killing to keep family secrets, friggin' Montrose leaks the most spoilers out of anyone on this show lol.
I was literally shaking with enjoyment when I realized tic was the baseball bat dude and when he said I got ya kid best episode so far
Mayfield is a city in Kentucky, they might of chose to just be more vague since we had been there before 😅
Mayfield also is a city in Kansas. In E7, Hippolyta's map had Kansas written on it.
@@kiml.hooper7717 Hippolyta says its a 6 hour drive. Chicago to KY is 5 plus hours. Chicago to Kansas is over 11hours
@@MrMlsmitr Hmmm, that makes sense, since Mayfield, KY is just a two hour drive from St. Louis, which helps explain how Tic got there so quick after Leti called him and told him Hippolyta was headed there. Why does Hipp's map have Kansas written on it as corresponding with the coordinates inside the orrery, tho?
@@kiml.hooper7717 I cannot understand that part
Misha Green confirmed on Twitter that it was a mistake. In post production she didn’t notice Dee’s map said Kansas at the top until fans pointed it out later. The observatory is in Kentucky.
You’re basically the only reviewer I wanna listen too. Nothing goes over your head bro. You nailed it.
I love how T's dreams came full circle.
There are so many gems and insights in this episode which by far was the most moving episode. I had tears, I mean crying spells with snot and all. I mean the issues of internal homophobia, generational trauma, sibling rivalry, parent-child dynamics, generational healing, the power of secrets, self loathing, familial strength, resilience, the glory of mother (board), forgiveness, life altering decisions, the truth in a lie (white lie is a Black truth, hence saying Black's are savage the lie and for Black's saying whites are savage their truth), feminism, power in general, and much more. It feels like we have all been thrown around in a loop within time for an hour and are in a state of emotional and cerebral shock. I don't believe I have ever experienced this much emotion over a creation but then I realize the majority of it is real and ever-present reality today in 2020! Great review !
Hey Paul been waiting for your reaction, I cried over the spoken poetry at the end
The song at the end was also very beautiful.
Willi Mac very powerful I have never experienced a show like thus ever, I really hope it gets a green light for more seasons
I love the way you unpack these episodes the the symbolism and nuances are so deep job well done 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
This was really and truly my most favorite episode. I honestly started to not like the series after the Meet Me in Daegu episode...I could not appreciate the relevance. But in this episode, I actually cried...going back to Tulsa had to be the most traumatizing shit for Montrose...it was so very haunting to me...OMG H finding her true identity sent me over the moon! The blue hair really did it for me....the strength she displayed in saving her daughter is REALITY...I can not wait til it is my turn to ascend to other universes to live and learn...This was just a great episode overall...I fell in love with the series all over again...
Idk about you guys but this is definitely my favorite show of 2020, every episode has either gave me chills or brought a tear to my eye.
I know that Hippolytas dress is kind of a paisley print but as Tic was messing with the wires on the machine, I thought her dress looked like tangled wires...
Thank you! I wish I’d known about your TH-cam channel before tonight. Your insight on episode 9 is much appreciated.
Actually the Tulsa massacre death count is somewhere in the thousands. A mass grave was just that had thousands of corpses there.
Was going to do my rewatch so I wanted to get a review. Yours have been very good and enlightening. Thanks.
I teared with anger while watching this, I felt the pain that the characters felt when they couldn’t warn nobody because I would.. imagine what these ppl would achieved if this never happened
As a black man... this episode was by far the most emotional for me and quite a few of my friends as well for we’ve all posted about this on Facebook. Very emotional because did the history our ancestors endured!
Misha Green stated that The whole Kansas and Kentucky thing was indeed an accident and the observatory is in Mayfield, Kentucky
Watched the last 2 episodes with my mouth open. This show is driving me insane I love it