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Drag races does not establish the better car. Drag races are for dumb people that can only go straight. Never been to a place where you only travel straight.
The 140 is launching in 1st, the Supra is launching in 2nd - in the wet. Same engine, same power, same gearbox - launching in different gears completely nullifies the result.
What I’d rather on the driveway is the supra, but when you consider the price v a f20/f22 140/240 you’d have to have some deep pockets to justify it the supra over its older cheaper counter part options from BMW that are also more practical with rear seats. In fact, for the price diffence you can buy a 140 or 240 and have it running 650/700hp for the price of a standard mk5 supra. Long and short, horses for courses.
Wouldn't say it's driver 🤪..goes to show how the same transmission is TUNED slightly differently with Toyota vs BMW. As well as where the weight is actually distributed in the cars. Also sure it doesn't hurt that your Supra has 285 psFOURS... while the BMW is 255 psFIVES. Wider/gripier tire. 🤪 But I'd have the Supra over both regardless.
Sick vid Jamie as always 🚀 Quick bit of info for those that don’t know; the A90s have a very different B58 setup to the M140i’s, the main changes being that the A90 has an Uprated fuel pump & slightly larger turbo. BUT the A90’s have an internal manifold & charge cooler which causes very high IATs as soon as they’re 460hp+ compared to the 140i’s (which at this moment in time can only be fixed with meth, ethanol fuel or changing out the whole intake manifold for something like the CSF Uprated one). The BM3 OTS Stage 2 is the perfect map on the A90s with STOCK turbo as it doesn’t push enough boost to raise the IATs and pull timing, my A90 when it was stock turbo was running consistent flat 7s & even a 6.9 100-200 & ~3.8s 0-60 which is a fair bit quicker than most Stock turbo M140i’s, uprating my stock turbo to my hybrid turbo was actually slower than the stock turbo until I had the meth installed due to the heavy timing pull because of high IATS 🤣 Not in anyway knocking the 140i though value for money they’re pretty unbeatable & the tuning that MK has done on that M140i running a stock fuel pump really does deserve a 👏
Sounds like biased talk because you own an a90. I've not known anyone to replace intake manifolds on m140is? As you can see in countless videos downpipe is all is needed for stage 2. Stage 2+ is higher pressure fuel pump and another after is hybrid or larger turbo. They is also m140is hitting high 6s stage 2 as you can see on the forums
@@RudeBomberBoy01 really and truthfully no other big powered b58 in this country is keeping up with messuts ting.he's running round about a thousand break.i'd like to see him run against marky though
@@phantom2k10 a thousand? Loool he's closer to 2000. His set up is based on Wrench's and their 100-200 is in the 3s. However messuts is faster. I been taking my car to him for the past 2/3 years now and his car is ridiculous!
I didn't realize I watched this video 8 months ago. Here I am back again. The roll race is what I needed to see. He was spinning in the launches. The next car I plan to get is a 2020 M240i in the future. I am saving up money so I can sell my stock 2016 Genesis Coupe 3.8.
Ps4 tyres are better than 5’s an this proves it.. I’m personally running ps’5 on my 400 bhp volvo 854 T-5R and can’t get the same level of grip as I can with 4’s! Epic vid… nice one Jamie
In early for once, looking forward to this. Still waiting on you doing a BMW diesel battle bro- E vs F vs G series. Be happy to pitch my 435d against your 3 series.
Im sorry, but there really is no supra in this video. Two nice BMWs on the other hand is no bad thing either 👍 Big fan of the 140i, and the b58 🤜🤛 I think you should change the title. Its very misleading to young people that dont know the history and heritage of a toyota supra.
He did it again ladies and gents, anothet sunday goodie!!! Amazing Jamie! I love both cars to be honest, beemer being more practical but the supra sounds so much better holy shit!!!!
B58 is the 2jz of modern era. Keep in mind it makes more power stock and powerband is lot wider than 2jz while complying with all modern emission regulations and weights twice as less.
Jamie cut the fuck! The car is a Toyota Supra, made by BMW. The man who made your house,owns it?? Toyota make that car so great, tuning engine and suspension. Anyways, sweet race 🏁 Toyota Supra, then,now,forever!
Has the 140i got the TU pump? Stage 2+ or is it just stage 2, as the GR will have the TU from stock so has the advantage and will be running more power? B58 are 👑 when I put the TU off the supra on my 340i going from stage 2 to 2+ was a noticeable difference
I just got mine stage 2+ tuned would’ve been a good comparison between the supra b58 and mine dyno proven at 463, if his is only stage 2 I reckon it was pushing 420-440ish. Then again I could be mistaken.
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Drag races does not establish the better car. Drag races are for dumb people that can only go straight. Never been to a place where you only travel straight.
German vs German lol
LOL - didn't actually realise until I read this.. Salty
No 👎
BMW m140i vs BMW m140i! 😆
B58 vs B58…. Aero and weight the difference here. Same power but supra blows 1er away
@@1993j But then you'd have just a m140i...
M140i Vs Z4*
@@1993j Then just buy a 500$ shitbox and tune everything up. Boom spent less than 30'000$ in total and still has 700 HP yet still a shitbox
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH 😐
The 140i was roasting tf outta the back tyres on the drags,great races tho. b58 is an amazing engine 💯
A better diff required maybe
Thats why tyre size matters, the supra had a 285 width tyre, and the 140i had 255 width tyre = less traction for the 140i
The 140 is launching in 1st, the Supra is launching in 2nd - in the wet. Same engine, same power, same gearbox - launching in different gears completely nullifies the result.
It seemed like he didn't know that he could modulate the pedal. Treating like an on/off switch
@@Duncan94 yeah all the new M cars launch in 2nd gear unless they’re X-Drive models.
Same engine but the Supra sounds way nicer IMO. Revs up more freely too
How Supra is revving "more freely", since 100-200 is better on BMW 🤔🤔🤔
@@georgedanilopoulos3023 I'm talking about revving from neutral bro. BMW sounds lazy building up the RPMs
@@ARDEN440i they’re just revving them differently😂
time to take the opelslow to the races
The bmw 140 doesn't have air intake while the Supra does
Video starts at 4:46
real one
@@andersztawiq42 naaaaaah bro
... the real ones watch the full thing!!
the video ended at 0:30, already showing the winner.
B58 engine sounds so much better compared to the M4 S58
I Wasn't a fan of the Supra but i got to say it makes the 140i look like a taxi 🤣
for double the money
What I’d rather on the driveway is the supra, but when you consider the price v a f20/f22 140/240 you’d have to have some deep pockets to justify it the supra over its older cheaper counter part options from BMW that are also more practical with rear seats. In fact, for the price diffence you can buy a 140 or 240 and have it running 650/700hp for the price of a standard mk5 supra.
Long and short, horses for courses.
Wouldn't say it's driver 🤪..goes to show how the same transmission is TUNED slightly differently with Toyota vs BMW. As well as where the weight is actually distributed in the cars. Also sure it doesn't hurt that your Supra has 285 psFOURS... while the BMW is 255 psFIVES. Wider/gripier tire. 🤪 But I'd have the Supra over both regardless.
Toyota didn’t tune the gearbox. The newer ZF8 has a different 1st & 2nd ratio
@@behindthebuild8016 this is it then. The gear ratio slightly better for launch on supra and rolls for bmw. But the tires also helped on launch
No supra has pulled my tu! BMW gave Toyota there slower closed deck engine.
PS5’s have better wet grip than the PS4S’s. And it looks damp so should have more grip
@@HarryG98 not damp enough I guess, but I think the bigger factor on the tires was just the extra width/contact patch
My man’s could not look more disinterested/disappointed in racing 😂 Great video though
6:50 the dmo shift😂
What a mad matchup! This was so good! Can't get over how sideways the BMW was in THIRD gear!! Insane! Loved it OG!
Mark V is the king of the dig. It’s done a fantastic job in suspension and transmission from stock to built
Sick vid Jamie as always 🚀
Quick bit of info for those that don’t know; the A90s have a very different B58 setup to the M140i’s, the main changes being that the A90 has an Uprated fuel pump & slightly larger turbo. BUT the A90’s have an internal manifold & charge cooler which causes very high IATs as soon as they’re 460hp+ compared to the 140i’s (which at this moment in time can only be fixed with meth, ethanol fuel or changing out the whole intake manifold for something like the CSF Uprated one).
The BM3 OTS Stage 2 is the perfect map on the A90s with STOCK turbo as it doesn’t push enough boost to raise the IATs and pull timing, my A90 when it was stock turbo was running consistent flat 7s & even a 6.9 100-200 & ~3.8s 0-60 which is a fair bit quicker than most Stock turbo M140i’s, uprating my stock turbo to my hybrid turbo was actually slower than the stock turbo until I had the meth installed due to the heavy timing pull because of high IATS 🤣
Not in anyway knocking the 140i though value for money they’re pretty unbeatable & the tuning that MK has done on that M140i running a stock fuel pump really does deserve a 👏
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
This comment was so helpful 😅 i knew the b58tu was different but not the actual differences. Are you saying the supra will kill power with high temps?
@@stefanomarcellino6701 no problem bro, & yeah pretty much
Sounds like biased talk because you own an a90. I've not known anyone to replace intake manifolds on m140is? As you can see in countless videos downpipe is all is needed for stage 2. Stage 2+ is higher pressure fuel pump and another after is hybrid or larger turbo. They is also m140is hitting high 6s stage 2 as you can see on the forums
Mans losing face might be the funniest thing I’ve ever seen in a race. 😂😂😂😂💀
Judging by the look on the BMW driver's face, you couldn't tell if he's doing 20mph or 200mph.
Awesome content Jamie! Thanks for the photographs with myself, my stepson and the other Jaime 💪🏻 at the Gravity show yesterday.
I don't think i'm alone in saying I wanna see messuts m140 on the og battles 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
There aren’t a lot that can keep up with him, go on his recent videos where he raced a 800hp TTS and basically slingshotted in front of it 😂
@@RudeBomberBoy01 really and truthfully no other big powered b58 in this country is keeping up with messuts ting.he's running round about a thousand break.i'd like to see him run against marky though
@@phantom2k10 a thousand? Loool he's closer to 2000. His set up is based on Wrench's and their 100-200 is in the 3s. However messuts is faster.
I been taking my car to him for the past 2/3 years now and his car is ridiculous!
Morelike German Vs German🤣🤣
Can’t wait to see Slammed UK event video along with return of mighty 911 Turbo S !!
Get MSB on OG battles🤣💨✨✨
Like if u wanna see this happen
Not to forget the supra comes with the B58 TU HPFP from factory which technically makes it stage 2+
What a sick race on the roll those are the best races when neck & neck
roll races are the best
German VS German ....
No Japanese Supra in this video
0:06 bro sounded like that dinosaur from Jurassic park 🤣
This video just made me want the M140i more and more🥺❤️🔥
im in Australia and every monday morning i wake up to a new upload from og..cheers!
If the launch and traction control on M140i was stable, it would've been a different story...
You should do You in Toyota GR Supra MK5 VS Nissan GTR R35 Nismo.
I didn't realize I watched this video 8 months ago. Here I am back again. The roll race is what I needed to see. He was spinning in the launches. The next car I plan to get is a 2020 M240i in the future. I am saving up money so I can sell my stock 2016 Genesis Coupe 3.8.
Supra is coming along nicely Jamie. 👌
B58 Vs B58 let's go big up man like Jamie and MK performance 👍
I think the Supra (not a supra) has better aerodynamics as it’s lower to the ground. Pretty even though at those speeds!
Its a yamaha
Yeah German Vs German you mean 🤣🤣 but I'd take the Supra over the Beemer any day... Cool vid 👍👍
Jamie lowkey let off at the end on the 3rd for the rolling race. What a sport
Was good meeting you today bro. Next door to Kream👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Let's thank the e90 for introducing these turbo straight 6s to our BMW toys
Brilliant content Jamie! An absolute pleasure to meet you today at Gravity and have a chat, true gent! 😎👍
Lmao you have a big smile on your face(obviously having fun) . Your homies face so serious like yal racing for slips 😆
How can you not love driving an automatic sport car. You lock the steering wheel and press a pedal. Yheaa boy, that's the dream.
Jamie is how I imagine I look like
Mahir is what I actually look like
B58 Vs B58 😂❤️ wicked Video Jamie 🔥🔥
German vs japgerman 😭😂😂😭
Its not about the power orr the setup... its about the response time on throttle! Nice vid! appreciated!
M140i forever! The only RWD hatchback, 3L inline 6. You will never seen it again ❤
Amazing vid and match. They are twin power brothers but IMO, I pick the BMW Supra anyday and everytime!
My favorite out of these two is the M240i ;-)
Ps4 tyres are better than 5’s an this proves it.. I’m personally running ps’5 on my 400 bhp volvo 854 T-5R and can’t get the same level of grip as I can with 4’s! Epic vid… nice one Jamie
Cool Battle ! I would choose the Toyota Supra, JDM for life !
In early for once, looking forward to this. Still waiting on you doing a BMW diesel battle bro- E vs F vs G series. Be happy to pitch my 435d against your 3 series.
I could be tempted to get involved in this ... 335d x-drive ;-)
@@nathanscaddan2297 Nah dude, yours is too fast, wouldn't be fair 🙂
@@bravz_ 😂 I could add a couple of passengers 🤪
@@nathanscaddan2297 mate add 4 passengers, take off the HPFP and then we'll talk 😆😆
@@bravz_ 😂 love it 🤣
Love the introduction to Jamie lol, great race guys.
We need to see Dyno graphs of both cars
LOL the face as he looks over after he burns in first is priceless
yes, brother, you keep nailing it!!
We're friends...but we're not friends like that 😂 love it
Officially Gapped - OG
Im sorry, but there really is no supra in this video. Two nice BMWs on the other hand is no bad thing either 👍
Big fan of the 140i, and the b58 🤜🤛
I think you should change the title. Its very misleading to young people that dont know the history and heritage of a toyota supra.
I'm guessing it was done deliberately to trigger people like...... you?
Big up 140i gang. Got a stage 2 manual myself. Feel his pain trying to launch, loves to go sideways! Class video as always.
I feel ya pain a 1998 Subaru smoked me in the wet 😅
your mans face in the BM every time he got beat lol lol
Big fan of the new Supras, wasn't at first but they grew on me
He did it again ladies and gents, anothet sunday goodie!!! Amazing Jamie! I love both cars to be honest, beemer being more practical but the supra sounds so much better holy shit!!!!
The M140i was never offered with a lsd from the factory , either dealer or specialist retro fitted
B58 engine will always be in histroy
Gotta love sibling rivalrys
I loved the 1 series. Too bad we didn't get much of them in the US.... especially that sweet hatch!! Jealous.
BMW V BMW, Awesome!
Both are complete weapons, but yours definitely looks the part and also sounds more aggressive 👌
The early up shift to 2nd gear is a must 🤣
The factor from the dig was probably just better tyres on a supra plus probably a better driver.
B58 is the 2jz of modern era. Keep in mind it makes more power stock and powerband is lot wider than 2jz while complying with all modern emission regulations and weights twice as less.
I Cant be the only one that thinks that saying stay tuned in the intro is not an intentional pun
Driver reaction time is important here... very good race💪
Awesome Jamie lad 👍🏻
During Supra sound check i started wiping my phone screen...like when did it get dirty & how; ive just been playing with my .... best ger a shower lol
Burning rubber launches are always a win. Love to see ur two are close friends though. Awesome vid, BIGMK × OG let's go!! 🔥❤️
The tyre size diff 285 vs csnt recall 255 is big difference !!
This video goes to all those supra kids out there.
What a lot of people don’t understand that is a Japanese remastered B58 in the a90 supra
My guy in the BMW looks so upset when driving xD
See the supra on m40 today sounded nice he had a bit of a slip on the off ramp
Love the B58 content 🔥😎
please please please for the bmw bois find someone with a N54 . they are so underrated and dont get the spotlight they deserve
Second roll the supra left way early and claimed victory. Not bad win
supra 100% catching him slowly their 👀
Man’s looked fucking depressed in the Beamer
Der bruder mit der glatze fühlt es richtig der kek hahaha
The rear wing adds to the supra they are still sick looking guys 🔥
Now these power r real as per mph 👍🏾
I want the supra badly. Two of my favorite brands in one car and I dont care.
Jamie cut the fuck! The car is a Toyota Supra, made by BMW. The man who made your house,owns it?? Toyota make that car so great, tuning engine and suspension. Anyways, sweet race 🏁 Toyota Supra, then,now,forever!
BMW guys face is priceless
Hate that Spoiler😢 on the Supra 😢
But she’s fast AF ⛽️🔥
Has the 140i got the TU pump? Stage 2+ or is it just stage 2, as the GR will have the TU from stock so has the advantage and will be running more power? B58 are 👑 when I put the TU off the supra on my 340i going from stage 2 to 2+ was a noticeable difference
Supra comes standard with an upgraded high pressure fuel pump ,that's the difference
B58 is top engine nice battle great YT Channel
All I can say is that I prefer the car with the b58 lump 😜
The cheat code is you have 285s on the rear compared to 225s
I just got mine stage 2+ tuned would’ve been a good comparison between the supra b58 and mine dyno proven at 463, if his is only stage 2 I reckon it was pushing 420-440ish. Then again I could be mistaken.
Fair play to Both drivers though, it’s not easy controlling these off the line
Aerodynamic between m1 and SUPRA is different
The title should be BMW VS BMW
Other guy looks like he's about to cry 😂