All three brothers killed in the war - Saving Private Strobel's identity 70 years after World War II
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- Video detailing the investigation that was made to identify the body of Private Enno Strobel. He had been mistakenly buried under the name Eno Strubel by US graves registrations troops when he had died of wounds in September 1944. The video starts with an interview of Eno Strobel's surviving brother Peter, who was born after the war to parents whose first three sons had all been killed during World War II.
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Dear Jean-Loup, you gave my dad and our whole family this unbelievable gift of finding Enno - my uncle, whose picture hung on the living room wall together with those of his brothers for all my life. As long as I can remember I wondered what really happened to him.
We cannot express how deeply grateful we are for the selfless work you do and we were honored to be able to meet you in person and show you how important it is to families like ours to get this kind of closure you provide.
The war tried to burn down my family but my incredibly brave grandparents regrew it from burnt ground and surely would be beyond proud to see it today. Thank you for contributing to its thriving by showing us a part of our roots we thought was lost. ❤N
Were they Nazi's? Serving in Poland and Russia undoubtedly means that they took part in the terrorism of the Slavic speaking people that involved acts too heinous for me to type out here.
If your family feels okay with sharing, may you give some backstory with Enno's two brothers.
A very touching video from Jean-Loup, and a heartwarming, albeit somber, conclusion for your family. Enno, like many soldiers, was a very young man doing his duty, and a testament to how terrible war can be to everyone involved.
May they all RIP 🪦
Great work by Jean as always.
*_Dear Nina, Your touching message should be pinned at the top of all responses. I am the same age as your dad and I was in tears seeing the account of Enno's death and burial, and how your parents were able to visit your uncle's grave in France. Your grandparents were strong people who found the courage to begin life again after they lost their family. They show us that people are magnificent._*
My wifes mother lost her brother at sea in an Atlantic convoy in WW2. He has no grave, but the survivors from his ship (S.S. Egyptian, a 2000 ton tramp steamer) made a journey of over 100 miles from Liverpool to her house to tell her how he had died after their ship was torpedoed. I think that their selflessness, empathy and understanding helped her and her mother immensely to come to terms with his death.
This is exactly what you are doing for many families Jean-Loup, by giving them closure, to whatever degree you are able. I am close to tears writing this as I have some understanding of the impact the work you do has for the people who lose loved ones in war.
I did some research to find out where my Grandfather was. He had gone lost touch with his wife in the 1930's. His daughter had never seen him. After a long look found he was an a Merchant ship torpedoed and sunk in 1940, whole crew lost. The authorities never informed his wife. Never paid a pension. So it took 78 years for my aunt to discover the fate of her father.
Those poor parents; three dead sons and 23 years after the birth of their youngest, a 4th son is born
You could argue that they were slightly more fortunate than others, that they were able to have fourth one. But losing all your children is a horrible thing, no matter what.
Jean-Loup, thank you for all you're doing in this respect. I have a family member who died on the "East-front" as we say here, and ended up in a mass grave somewhere in the baltics. This drove my paternal family apart ever since. I sincerely believe we - the normal people - were duped into hate and mistrust during the biggest (and still ongoing) psy-op of the 20th century.
14:23 The medic reported: "They (the Germans) sent a young soldier (Enno Strobel) with me, why I do not know."
I'm guessing it was to protect the medic from German gunfire as he was planning on returning with a few people to help.
So the Germans figured they wouldn't shoot at some enemies, accompanied by one of their own men. Unfortunately, that didn't work the other way around, and that's why Enno Strobel had to die.
It is somewhat of a tragedy that Strobel, who died protecting an enemy medic, also practiced a broader medical profession, serving as an orthotist helping people with physical disabilities.
I have not been able to get Strobel's US burial report yet, so cannot confirm he is the person mentionned by the US medic. It is just a hunch, perhaps correct, perhaps not.
this does my heart so much good to see a family reunited with a lost loved one, i couldn't imagine not knowing where a close loved one's eternal resting spot was .... especially when they bravely served their country and made the ultimate sacrifice for his country.... I'm so glad he is properly identified and can now rest in peace with proper respect
Even if that lost loved one was a Nazi? Working in a country that saw the Germans actively coalesce Jews into Ghettos and ship them via Cattle Car all the way from France to Auchwitz, Poland? With no water, no food. Where people died in transit and were held up because there was no room to lay them down? Where women and children were separated for immediate death and men to work?
Or the Brother in Russia who was a part of groups who forced townspeople to dig their own mass Graves before shooting them in the head? More than 1 million Russians died during Germany's invasion. Where is your sympathy for those families?
Or the Brother who died in Poland, possibly at one of several Nazi Death Camps for Jews. Treblinka where the only job was to run the gas rooms, sorting rooms, and crematorium? Auschwitz where they were killed for sport at times and forced to work until they couldn't where they were either shot or gassed then cremated?
Seriously. You can feel bad for the guy in the video. But don't feel sympathy for the father or brothers. They got what they deserved.
@@Ericsaidful"Or the Brother who died in Poland, possibly at one of several Nazi Death Camps for Jews. "
If you know a bit about WWII, you will see that this brother, just like the others, is wearing an army uniform, not an SS uniform. These were front line soldiers, not rear echellon executioners, and that is why none of them survived.
You guys who paint all Germans with the same brush are thinking along the same lines as Nazi Germany did, painting all Jews with the same brush.
These people were individuals, since you dont know anything about their individual stories, dont make assumptions about them.
Its as if I hear about a WWII US pilot, so assume that he dropped atomic bombs on Japan.
@CrocodileTear If you knew anything about World War 2, you would know that the SS was not the only group to partake in mass executions on the Eastern Front. The Wermacht on the Western Front was far more subdued but in the East they did play a role in the SS's duty to identify and round up the identified groups for mass murder.
So it's still an issue that need not ever be forgiven.
@@EricsaidfulYes, I known very well that army soldiers were also involved in executions. However, that is not what I quote you on you dishonnest troll. I quoted you on "Or the Brother who died in Poland, possibly at one of several Nazi Death Camps for Jews."
So tell us, were army soldiers responsible for running death camps? Why would an army soldier die at a death camp for jews?
@@Ericsaidful Your speech of freedom should be revoked. You seem to know nothing about history at all. You are too brainwashed and demagogue to think about the fact that probably the 90% of the soldiers who served during the war (no matter which country) were only serving their fatherland. And stop spreading propagandic nonsense. You are acting as if only the germans would have committed war crimes. And if you would know anything about history as well, which you eventually don't, then you would know, that each army has committed more or less atrocities during the war at some point, no matter which country. If you can't admit this, then you are just purely dumb. Educate and free yourself from your demagogue propagandic views. You keep on hating on a fallen soldier just because of his nationality. How would you know that he was a guard at some camp? Even if he was an army soldier. Even the most percentage of the Waffen SS soldiers were not war criminals, but soldiers. Its just result of the demagogue falsification of history being told over the past decades by people like you.Trolling is one thing but this is just sad. You are one of those brainwashed morons who categorize people and keep thinking that they are anything better than war criminals. These men were human beings who were forced to fight and gave their best to serve their country and families, doesn't matter which side. Its not your duty to tell which of them was a war criminal. Shame on you. PS: If you are try to sound smart about the actions of the Wehrmacht on the eastern front then don't forget to mention the actions of the red army as well. That's how d_mb you are.
Thank you for giving this family closure. You do ao with dignity and respect.
Thank you for your important work. My fathers brother was a german Para Trooper and is still MIA since Summer 1940. So I can clearly say, that it is important to the families of the missing men that someone cares. 👍👍👍
What an amazing story of your compassion and mystery solving capabilities. Jean-Loup, you are one of a kind and the only person on planet earth willing to identify this fallen “Unknown Soldier”.
You are extremely gifted! And what a gift you presented to the family of the soldier. With your ability and dedication, the soldier was given the opportunity to speak from his grave all these years
later. Excellence!
Well done for such dedicated detective work in putting the family’s doubts to rest.
Wonderful work sir 🫡 all families deserve closure. May the three brothers Rest in Peace.
Thank you and my best wishes to Arabia.
Thank you for uploading. Such a touching story. You give the fallen their humanity back.
Dear Jean-Loup, thank you for your hard work! We recently lost a family member and having a place where we can visit and mourn them is very important to us.
Thank you so much for giving this place to all those families whose fathers, husbands and sons were lost to history for 80 years!
Outstanding work that can only come from great attention to detail but also an immense amount of passion fueling this journey to give these men their one final wish, and that is to be reunited with their Family. I know that you have been doing this for a number of years and on behalf of all of us, the families, these soldiers, thank you. I am just know realizing that you speak French, English, German and Russian and possibly others as well. One my most favorite channels. Thank you, Tom - Kansas City, Kansas USA.
Thanks for your usual very kind comments mate
At the end of the day all soldiers need to be honoured. The you for your care
Amazing research, thank you for doing this and getting these guys identified.
This is a wonderful gift you have given them.
heartbreaking 💔
Another excellent video.
Absolutely incredible work youre doing. And Im incredibly grateful that youve decided to share all you do on youtube!
Only found your site brilliant and sad at the same time all these young boys.. Men lost... 👍🍀🇮🇪
God Bless you for your hard work and dedication for putting closure to this missing soldiers family.
Phenomenal work and detailed explanations along the way. Thank you Jen-Loup
This is incredibly moving. Sad times.
You do incredible work. Brilliant. Even though Enno would have shot and killed my American grandfather in the war, I sympathize with his kid brother in finally having his peace.
I didnt know the amis were so meticulous with all the deceased they handled, quite impressive.
Wars never bring happy memories.
Incredible research. My sincere admiration for the work you do, regardless of which side each soldier belonged to. Thank you for all of it.
Heart warming , well done , great work ❤️
Great work, I cant imagine what its like to know you have family killed in a war, and have no idea where they are.
Again just 1000% Respect for you! You are also an role model example for humanity to me! Great work.
Once again, fantastic work!
Your dedication and detective work are simply outstanding, you never cease to impress! Thank you, much respect!
Great work… Thanks for your efforts. Love the channel!
Thank you for giving survivors, widows, families, siblings, long awaited information. Narragansett Bay
4:20 OMG, this brings tears to my eyes. How many millions of broken hearts in World War II.
As always , awesome stuff, your research is first rate....I always look forward to your new videos....great stuff, cheers 🙂🙂🙂
Thank you so much for your work!
I don't think people realize today that when soldiers went off to war 80 years ago, if they were killed it was unlikely their bodies would be returned home for burial. Given the far-flung places involved, the number of casualties being suffered and the logistics involved (taking supplies to the living and returning of the wounded), it's completely understandable. I have seen pictures of German cemeteries in Russia that had all of the grave markers (especially from the SS divisional cemeteries) removed as the Germans retreated; who knows what happened to them. Now most countries go to great lengths to repatriate the bodies of their fallen.
Also in WW1 they lay in beautiful cemetery’s with their comrades now.
Outstanding work you are doing.
Jean-Loup you are doing a great job by finding those missing soldiers for the family members..... Salute you...
17 years old.
I'm glad you brought some closure and peace of mind to the youngest brother his family of the only fallen brother Private Strobel that was finally identified from WW2.
good work! great video!
Your videos are so good! Thank you!
Very interesting.. Another great job done.
Salute for your good works!
Great Detective work
The work you do is truly amazing.
Great job!
Very impressive, great research.
Outstanding story and work.
incredible detective work, righteous !
What wonderful research and story.
I absolutely love your videos and the purpose behind your efforts. All families need closure on the status of soldiers sent off to war on behalf of their countries; and through your efforts, some get that. Your mission is most respectful, heartrendering, and noble. Thank God for men like you!!
Thanks for another great video , with great research , good job , once again !
What a rough job working in Graves Registration must've been. People can get used to anything and after a time I suppose it was just a job but unless these kids could teach themselves how to compartmentalize or create an "OFF" switch, I'm sure the after effects of this difficult but vital work lasted years after the war.
Your work is valuable and appreciated.
Keep it up.🇦🇺
Losing a young sibling can sometimes be worse than losing a parent. He lost three of them! The pain still shows in his voice when he is talking about them. Very good work by the people who made the identifications.
Salute the Graves Registration troops for doing such detailed and in depth work ,to identify their enemy dead ! I have read World War 2 history , European and Italian theater s for the past 60 years, and this video is the first information I have seen on war graves ! how/ohio
You just hit the jackpot sister 💗
Incredible work .
Beautiful detective work. Thank you.
Is it not possible to help fund your research in any way? well done sir.
Great job. Such a interesting story
GOOD WORK!
I could understand lots of Typo errors because I'm sure the people processing the paperwork have worked very long hours,so tired eyes won't type very well.
Many times like this case it is not typos, it that hand written words can easily be misread.
Absolutely incredible work once again. I applaud you. I began researching my family tree here in the U.S. last year. My second great grandparents came from Deutschland around 1870 and in almost every instance their names were spelled incorrectly by someone here in the U.S.. I have found at least 2 variations on their last name alone. These are amazing riddles that you solve.
Hi same here. My ancestors in america got changed from the german Name 'Spengler' to 'Spangler' in the US. Can you imagine how man spanglers live in Seattle?
Hi there, quite often the misspelling of the German immigrants entering the USA was intentional, especially around or just after WW1. You see there was a hatred against these German immigrants at that time and the immigration people who stamped your entry papers into the USA would intentionally change the spelling of their surname to make it sound more American or english. Case in point, i know a family of German ancestry here in my home town in Canada who's name was intentionally changed at one of the US ports of entry, eastern seaboard. How long was this practice going on, i don't know.
Really impressive work,interesting and human..light between shadows,congratulations!
I hope the damage on the book is not what i think it is 😢
If you mean blood, I didnt see any on the Soldbuch.
@@CrocodileTear maybe water from treading the stomach wound? Or something like that 🤔
@@ichdistanzieremichvomnatio8128 As far as I understand, soldiers were supposed to have their Soldbuch with them at all times, so these could get wet with rain, etc. It is a miracle to me that they arent usualy more damaged.
Very nice piece of research!
I think that the document from the US army shown at 17:01 also shows “Strubel”, am I seeing that right?
I am so interested and impressed with your work. Although I am English, I probably have relations that died in both Wars as my family arrived from Germany in the 1880's.
Well done.
This is amazing.
What a great story! It almost brought tears to my eyes, although my own uncle (one of my father's brothers) who died in the war after whom I am named, died fighting in the RAF against Nazis in France too. War is such a waste of young lives on all sides. Yes? ....But Great job Jean-Loup. Please keep making these informative videos. Greetings to you from the faraway Caribbean island of Jamaica.
Hi. Thanks for your comment. By curiosity, where was your uncle from? Also Jamaica?
@@CrocodileTear Yes, in the 1940s Jamaica was a british colony. So most young men volunteered for WW2 service in Empire or Commonwealth service arms, Three of my father's brothers did so in the Royal Air Force and one died on active service in Aug. 1944 with 105 & 107 Squadrons RAF as navigator on Mosquito fighter-bombers 1943 to 1944. The other 2 were in groundcrew so survived the war serving on airbases in England. I am an amateur WW2 historian myself & retired professor of biology. Thank you for asking.
@@karlaiken6152yes I have visited Jamaica and been to the cross of sacrifice there. Lest we forget.
Beautiful work. I’m more than willing to help this cause, so if you need any help from Belgium, please let me know.
EXCELLENT!!
Wow. Thanks
I am convinced that there are two different types of human wiring out there - people like this older man who carry multi generational sorrow for people that they did not know, but somehow they feel connected to, and then other people who simply don't feel that connection to people that they don't know, just to people that they do know firsthand. Honestly, I'm one of the latter kind of people - so this type of thing just doesn't have any emotional significance for me, I'm just puzzled [and a bit saddened] by that aspect. I do have enormous intellectual curiosity and interest in what happened to his family member [and in my genealogical context, what happened to my ancestors] but I don't have much emotional response to the loss or mystery. But I must say that I have immense admiration for this research guy because he is clearly doing such a profound kindness for these people, tracking down the information.
Nice work man. Another great episode. The Germans must have been very desperate to send these kids to the front lines.
A classic case of 'no good deed goes unpunished'. If the Germans had not allowed the American medic to return to his unit after the skirmish and if he had not been escorted by Pte Strobel, who was then shot for his pains by the Americans at that unit........who knows? Maybe Eno would have survived the war and lived to an old age. The moral? - you decide.
I dont have any hard evidence that that soldier who escorted the medic was Strobel. Not yet but I am hunting down his IDPF, which should say where he was wounded.
Well Done.
Was that customary for captured medics allowed to return to their outfits?
Not as far as I know.
@@CrocodileTear me either, I guess those soldiers were in a good mood that day.I do know that your not supposed to target vessels identified as carrying medical personal only.
Bonjour Jean loup
Merci de vos recherches. Pourriez vous faire un sous-titrage en Français ?
Bien à vous
J'ai fait quelques vidéo en Francais, mais personne ne les regarder. Même la vidéo sur le corps X-77, qui concerne des résistants francais mort en france, a été vu 15 fois plus de fis en anglais qu'en francais. C'est désolant...
@@CrocodileTear oui c'est vraiment dommage et désolant . Pour ma part je continuerai à vous suivre, même si je ne comprend pas tout. Continuez vos recherches. BRAVO.
@@xavhart Merci. Mais je crois que youtube a une option pour mettre des sous titres automatiques dans plus ou moins toutes les langues non?
@@CrocodileTear non malheureusement , mais ça me fait cogiter mon anglais très " primaire ". 😅 a bientôt de vous suivre.
Thats common in Germany. Every village and city has a memorial place for the fallen soldiers of WWI and WWII. You sadly can offen read there the names of two to four or five young men, belonging to the same family. The future of families was often wiped out.
Great work my friend. If you come to California, dinners on me❤
my theorie is that the fingerprints where not taken to identify the dead but the living soldiers pretending to be someone else.
Those prints are on ID document that has nothing to do with the army.
check out the young man bottom right 4:22 looks identical to his brother
That is the grandson
@@CrocodileTear spitting image, dont you think?
@@sugargliderdude There is a reason for that ;)
ITS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHERE YOUR BROTHER DIED AND HOW. ALL FAMILIES WANT THIS, ITS ONLY NATURAL!!!!
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Let’s never have another war
Unfortunately many of the people who have done searched with me (see my video The Stalingrad Digging Camp) are on the front lines as I write.
@CrocodileTear Should the Germans of units responsible for mass murder and systematic expulsion of jews and other groups to death camps, or mass Graves (Eastern European invasion), be left as is? Hardly anyone but the Israelis are advocating for the memory of those people, yet we have the German state actively repatriating Nazi's?
There is a new form of anti-semitism growing and it is reflected in the indifference toward the attempted extermination of them not even a century ago; a grain of sand on a 200 mile long Beach of time in the time horizon of humans as a species.
There should be a remembrance at the end of each of your videos for those who died at the hands of these soldiers. Many of these events were not directed by command but were undertaken voluntarily by units.
By in large, the most respectable group were the submariners, at the beginning of the war. There was a naval code to follow and everyone followed it, until they didn't. Even so, there was a mutual respect.
For the infantry, Waffen-SS, and others, that wasn't the case. It makes me sad to see no one here mention the fact that this many family members were, in effect, supporting Nazi's. Perhaps by the time they joined it was compulsory but, if not, they are as complicit as anyone else whether they were a Komandant or letter runner.
@@CrocodileTear How many of your coworkers are fighting in Ukraine? Did anyone was KIA?
@@bussolini6307 I have not heard of anybody being killed, but one of the better friends was badly wounded.
E lod of respect for what you do for ater peopel
My wife had 5 uncles all brothers , all were in the navy ww2 all came home 😊
👍😊
My grandfahter and his 5 brothers were soldiers in 2. WW.
Just he came back. The youngest was the favorite brothers. He was missed after the war. In the end my grandfather and his son went to women who claims to the things which no others were able of. Eine Weißsagerin in german.
She told my grandfather that the youngst one survied the war and choiced living in Ruessia. She told that he had founded a family and all that stuff. Everybody knows that she just told tings to my grandfather he had hope to hear from her.
It was bullshit of course.
I just can remmember once that I asked him about the other brothers.
One of them seemed to be a every keen soldier. That one died by a handgranate wich ened in front of him as a maskigunner.
My grandfather told it was ugly to look at him. This is the reason I belive that at least these 2 brother surfed in the kompanie.
My grandfather was wounded several times with all kinds wounds.
Small pices of metall stayed in his body for the rest of the life. A short leg wich maked him humbled (?) the way up and on the way back from the garden.
In later years he saw russian snipers in almost every tree by just looking out of the frontal window.
We are a simple family. Of course a lot of Schnaps were drunken surley to hsndle all these memories.
I dont know! What makes me thinking that we are just stuppied is the reason that the germans at the moment want to fight again the russains.
In my own opinion we are not on the good side again.
I hope the russians will succsed!!!
Yes A Good Deed To a Long ago Person!
btw my second name is BernharDT! :D So it can be right with DT! :P
That is probably where the mistake originated.
@@CrocodileTear u see @17:50 they written STRUBEL ENO and then someone add a STROBEL under Serial No.?
@@MrSlayersedge Yes, somehow they managed to send his ID documents back home, but did not figure out the identity of the body. I guess when the Germans looked through the ID booklet they could read the name correctly.
@@CrocodileTear 👍and thank you for your service.
dovrebbero fare serie e serie ....stagioni e stagioni ...su questi poveri cristi ....morti giovanissimi non arrivavano nemmeno ai 25 anni .....quanta sofferenza....invece di fare TV spazzatura !!!!!!!!
I found a picture of a 3rd reich officer in a little military booth, I am very interested in finding who he is or was, if I are able to help I can send you a way to get ahold of me so I can send it to you. Thank you.
Chances are that it is not possible to identify him, but email me his picture and we will see. My email shown in most of my videos.
This is empathy... Sadly the people we are paying our taxes to don't actually care about that... but they will tell you they do..
I don't want to sound cruel but all brothers were killed in places they invaded and where civilians were massacred- France, Poland and Soviet Union. Since I am on the side of the victims (ALWAYS) and never on the side of the perpetrators I am kinda of happy those devils perished.
You are a very amazing person , your will to keep digging is above and beyond , simply the best.