Buried under a mistaken identity in Normandy since 1944 - The story of missing SS Sturmmann Torhan

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  • @garygenerous8982
    @garygenerous8982 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Jean-Loup, thank you so very much for what you do. I literally devoured your backlog within days of finding your channel for various reasons not least because of the work you do identifying the unknown fallen.
    I also really appreciate the uncensored archeological work and detailed stories you share here on TH-cam. Most others either can’t or won’t highlight the true horrors of war. This isn’t me enjoying it out of morbid curiosity but more because it reveals the human cost of war in a way that nothing else can.
    So again, thank you for your videos and I eagerly await the next one.

  • @marekeos
    @marekeos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    I was born in Poland prior to emigrating to North America in my early childhood. My grandad was forcefully drafted into the Wehrmacht where he served until having his intestines blown out by shrapnel from a mortar round. After a crude surgery which he miraculously survived he was evacuated onboard the Gustloff.
    It's fascinating how much you do for these boys and their surviving families, bringing closure after almost 100 years. Members of my own family could have been any of these unfortunate folks. Fantastic work on your part sir. An exemplary display of compassion and humanity.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thanks. Have you seen my video about the mass grave at Villeneuve-Loubet. Each and every one of the identified bodies was either from Silesia or Sudetenland: th-cam.com/video/C1nTdO30Pio/w-d-xo.html

    • @marekeos
      @marekeos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I've seen all your videos my friend. Your content is fascinating. And yes, we are from Silesia :) I will be contacting you (if it's ok) with my uncle's case. KIA but with very confusing information. Once I have all info ready, I'll email you. Have a great day!@@CrocodileTear

    • @nerminerminerminermi
      @nerminerminerminermi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Forcefully" is just lies. Who is pressed into Service fully aginst his will is of no use and will surrender or ran off to the enemy at any Chance. Even germans knew that.

    • @marekeos
      @marekeos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nerminerminerminermi Ya, you were there and you know it all. Forcefully meaning you either show up on a given date or you and your family end up in a concentration camp. Nothing like arm chair - TH-cam "historians" who have to rebuke everyone because they read a few books.

    • @kazzzerusss
      @kazzzerusss 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nerminerminerminermi You are ignorant, the draft is forced enlistment. They had no choice. The SS was volunteer, the Wehrmacht had no choice.

  • @louiszemek5058
    @louiszemek5058 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    I can’t tell you how fascinating your videos are. From the time I discovered your channel I have watched every one of the videos. You have provided a very valuable service to these folks. I have determined that you have a big heart for helping others and that makes you a very good man in my opinion. I look forward to more videos. Thank you Jean-Loup!

    • @mobius-1503
      @mobius-1503 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I second everything louis said.

    • @asmodeus1274
      @asmodeus1274 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I can’t believe that this channel has less than 100k subscribers. Like and share his videos and get his number of subscribers up.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks guys. As for the subscribers, I am hoping I may pass the 100k mark this year.

    • @michaelvalentine4867
      @michaelvalentine4867 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I love that you can make a difference to families and or just solve mystery maybe I can send photos of soldbuchs and or ger.dog tags that I feel were taken from dead as souvenirs .I hope and wish u continue. I have closed museum from Los Angeles area closed 1990s

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@michaelvalentine4867 Dog tags are problematic to research for the moment, but names in Soldbuch's can quickly be checked, and if the person is buried in a military cemetery, he can be found.

  • @Tiefschlag
    @Tiefschlag 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    A few years ago I did some research regarding the death of my grandfathers brother who died in 1945. When, where or why was unknown to us. Fortunately I found answers which I could share with my grandfather. Even after all those years it is hard to discribe what kind of feelings the truth is still able to create. Some scars might never heal. But it is special when somebody still cares and names and cold bones can remain a human being. Many thanks for your work!

  • @gemellodipriapo
    @gemellodipriapo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Thank you! You give these fallen soldiers their humanity back. I find your videos so moving.

    • @scrubsrc4084
      @scrubsrc4084 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Would they have shown you any? His regiment executed all their allied prisoners after interrogation

    • @gemellodipriapo
      @gemellodipriapo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@scrubsrc4084 That’s your hypothesis. Showing an individual humanity is a spontaneous gesture and isn’t dependant on the expectation of reciprocation. Perhaps you cannot show humanity and that’s why you say that. Indeed from what you write it appears you’re stuck in the past and that you cannot forgive an individual you have never met or know nothing of.

    • @scrubsrc4084
      @scrubsrc4084 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @gemellodipriapo individual hypothesis? Go look what the regiments in that area did., their actions lost them their humanity.

    • @gemellodipriapo
      @gemellodipriapo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@scrubsrc4084 He was an individual not a regiment. You are not your country or your baseball team or your religion … those are only part of you but not your entire self. In theory you are complex but from what you write you appear simple. You have made assumptions and presumptions about this individual without knowing him. This says lots about you but very little about him.

    • @scrubsrc4084
      @scrubsrc4084 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @gemellodipriapo you didn't get in to that regiment by being a good person. There is no justification for them.

  • @brianbernstein7754
    @brianbernstein7754 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Fascinating story Dr. Gassend. And a very satisfying closure to an 80 year mystery for Mr. Torhan's family. Thank you for all your efforts to help families like the Torhans.

  • @SamuelConsidine
    @SamuelConsidine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Absolutely fascinating! This man was from the same parish (Mazew) as my great-grandfather who served as a machine-gunner in the Polish 37th Infantry Regiment and spent the war as a POW in Germany, afterwards coming to Australia. Amazing to think of the fates of these two men born in the same place.

  • @Redhand1949
    @Redhand1949 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's always a reassuring reading stories like this. It is important that this cataclysmic event be chronicled. The fact that this young man's family wants to know eight decades later is clear proof of this. Thanks for your dedication.

  • @toonverberg1313
    @toonverberg1313 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thanks for your dedication and all the effort you went through to find a missing relative. Excellent work!

  • @user-ix3en1zd7n
    @user-ix3en1zd7n 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have this weird feeling this youtuber will be 90 years old and still solving ww2 missing persons

  • @gvii
    @gvii 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Bravo sir. I can only imagine what it must be like to finally know for certain what ultimately happened to a family member after being completely in the dark for such a long time. What you do matters to so many. I appreciate the fact that you share what you do. Not only are the stories interesting, but they do give the warm and fuzzies even if it is for someone or some family I will never know.

  • @davekreitzer4358
    @davekreitzer4358 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Once again , great work and research , much appreciated and respect to you sir , always looking forward to your next video !

  • @stevejohnston2715
    @stevejohnston2715 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Strong work...again. Your service is appreciated by anyone who has lost a loved due to war. Many Thanks.

  • @tiredlawdog
    @tiredlawdog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You never cease to amaze me with your investigative efforts. I try to share you videos with all my 70+ year old friends.

  • @MarvinHartmann452
    @MarvinHartmann452 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ces vidéos et ces recherches surtout sont vraiment extraordinaires. Merci beaucoup pour ce partage.

  • @harmankevin43
    @harmankevin43 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m WW2 military historian, here in USA , Buffalo NY.
    Love this channel!!!! Wow!
    Amazing information, looking forward to add items information to you/me. Thanks looking forward to have your help in some WW2 Information!
    Keep up the GREAT work dear Sir!!!!!!

  • @Jean-rg4sp
    @Jean-rg4sp หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *Your work and channel are most appreciated. You are one of the good people.*

  • @paulbradford8240
    @paulbradford8240 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Jean -Loup, thank you for another excellent video. I find myself longing for the story to go on. What a fascinating job or hobby you have. Your explanations of events and description of documents make the story much clearer. Also, your tone of voice lends itself to be listened to. I have seen videos which had excellent stories in themselves, but the narration and grammar are so poor, that it is impossible to continue, even more so when it is a commuter generated narration. Keep up the excellent work. If you need an apprentice, let me know!

  • @thegamejunkie1
    @thegamejunkie1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thank you for the help that you give people. From 🇺🇸

  • @thomasweatherford5125
    @thomasweatherford5125 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Whenever I see one of your videos, I know I’m in for a treat. Thank you Jean-Loup for your efforts and energy with this. It’s fascinating to listen to you narrate how you make your discoveries.

  • @Militarycollector
    @Militarycollector 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Once again another great video..
    Keep up the good work…👍👍

  • @tomjones7593
    @tomjones7593 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you- the fallen should not be forgotten so far as possible; I was impressed to hear that the British War Graves Commission opened a cemetery especially for German dead. I had not heard of that, but it is touching nonetheless.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You should also watch my video "deadly typos"

  • @KaitlynnUK
    @KaitlynnUK 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you, Jean-Loup, your videos are fascinating.

  • @Bunnyandart
    @Bunnyandart 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im in a very similar situation with the one you explained at the end. My great grandpa was a solider who died somewhere in the Ural mountains in the war, but thats about all we know about him.
    My family is known by his name to this day, so i feel grateful for one of the many unsung heroes. Sadly there's no way i can repay him by finding more information, since i doubt there's any documents anymore.

  • @johnpayne299
    @johnpayne299 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your video’s are always so interesting and I find myself impatient waiting for the next video. Keep up the excellent work!

  • @mmk749
    @mmk749 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is such an excellent channel! Thank you for all your hard work and sharing the results with us!

  • @Zerbey
    @Zerbey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some Poles did fight for the Germans, my Grandfather had POWs on his farm in England with Polish nationality who fought for Germany. He spoke about them with some fondness, he said they were just young men caught up in a bad situation but worked very hard.

  • @gregkelly8014
    @gregkelly8014 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    As a retired soldier myself I have thought often of something happening to me and my body being lost or missed named as well as the hard ship it would have caused my family. I cannot imagine how these families who have lost loved ones from any side during any war deal with the idea that a family member is just missing. I watch these stories from this site and others and enjoy it when a soldier makes it home so to speak. it does not matter which side they fought for at least there is some closure.

    • @NiSiochainGanSaoirse
      @NiSiochainGanSaoirse 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My eldest Son is a serving soldier, and my second Son looks likely to follow his Brother.
      My greatest fear is exactly that...
      A letter to say he's missing, and nothing else.
      No body,
      No grave,
      No answers.
      Just a missing Son...
      God rest those Mothers, man.

  • @carolancarey992
    @carolancarey992 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    fascinating videos and commentary. Thank you for all you do.

  • @ColinFreeman-kh9us
    @ColinFreeman-kh9us 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video. Detailed, informative with a human touch. For anyone interested there is a great clip on YT with a SS combat veteran who served in Normandy he was about 60 at the time of this interview.
    One of the most interesting interviews I have ever seen period on any subject matter. It gives you a new perspective for sure

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Have you got the name of the video or a link you can share?

  • @dtaylor10chuckufarle
    @dtaylor10chuckufarle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congratulations, Jean-Loup! This must be so very satisfying for you and the family. Finally the family has some closure after some eighty years.

  • @kennethrouse7942
    @kennethrouse7942 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a retired American soldier please allow me to thank you for your work in helping these families achieve a final resolution. I don't believe that there can ever be such a thing as "closure." The loss of a loved one, whatever the cause, brings with it, I feel, a psychological wound that will never completely heal. 😢

  • @jodysanders6445
    @jodysanders6445 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You do amazing work, Sir. I really enjoy your videos-

  • @HTN3
    @HTN3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outstanding effort, outstanding report. Thank you for your "energy and motivation" that brings us these fascinating stories.

  • @oceanicfeeling3135
    @oceanicfeeling3135 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your hard work. Very fulfilling and meaningful.

  • @Kinetic--Energy
    @Kinetic--Energy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your work!

  • @offshorequest
    @offshorequest 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great work as usual solving an 80 year old case !

  • @d.g.n9392
    @d.g.n9392 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is very interesting and definitely has provided the correction to the grave record, the family now knows the location.
    Enjoying your videos, and glad to listen to your narration and pronouncing of the French, German names and villages.

  • @th.burggraf7814
    @th.burggraf7814 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for your efforts.
    Very much appreciated ! 🤝🏻👍🏻

  • @StevenJeNova
    @StevenJeNova 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you! For all the good work & wonderful videos. 🙂👍

  • @SNOUPS4
    @SNOUPS4 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    À propos de fautes de frappes: "Sturmmann", et pas "Sturmann", dans le titre :)
    Merci pour le travail et la vidéo! Bravo

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Haha, c'est corrigé.

  • @M1sc3
    @M1sc3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fico feliz por duas coisas, uma que tenham encontrado onde esta enterrado esse garoto que morreu tão jovem por uma guerra perdida, outra coisa que me faz feliz é pensar que ainda o honram por buscar seu paradeiro, ele não foi esquecido por seus parentes...
    Não sei se é cultural ou falta mesmo de apego ao ancestrais, mas no Brasil não se preocupam muito com isso, principalmente a geração mais nova, poucas pessoas conhecem algo sobre seus avós e bisavós.

  • @Blue-Red-Blue
    @Blue-Red-Blue 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent channel. Compelling content. Great outcome.

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    And trilingual too. Most impressive.

  • @its_cyfa
    @its_cyfa 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome work again Jean

  • @americanpatriot2422
    @americanpatriot2422 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Always an outstanding video and presentation

  • @tomorrow2K
    @tomorrow2K 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video as always man 👍

  • @paullee-sl9it
    @paullee-sl9it 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The soldiers probably wouldn’t care much about their identities anymore after death. Your excellent research provides most of the comforts for the surviving families and comrades.

  • @ThomasDrehfal
    @ThomasDrehfal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great work for those folks! You have helped them so much!

  • @johnboy384
    @johnboy384 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great work, thanks for sharing this interesting piece. =)

  • @MGB-learning
    @MGB-learning 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always an Outstanding video and presentation.

  • @salernototo
    @salernototo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    glad you are able to put your expertise to good use and give this family closure and peace. Spelling and transcription errors are common. My Grandfather's Battalion history published in 1945 has typos and mistakes. I've had to review the Battalion unit journal and his personal copy and letters to determine the most accurate information.

  • @jasonstclair1329
    @jasonstclair1329 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Would really like to see a collaboration with you and Mark Felton. Definitely 2 of the best researchers of that era.

    • @BaikalTii
      @BaikalTii 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Felton is a hack grifter. very happy to not see such pollution on this channel

  • @karlcat7930
    @karlcat7930 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sehr gute Arbeit von Ihnen, Respekt.

  • @spiraling69
    @spiraling69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your work. I wish I had inspiring words to write, but all I can think of is this. If you don't do it, who will? Thanks for everything you do!

  • @HammyHamster-c2r
    @HammyHamster-c2r 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A similar thing happened to my great grandad in ww1. He was fighting with the Staffordshire regiment in Arras. He was one of a handful of soldiers that survived a failed attack on German lines. There were so few survivors that they were sent to fight with the Durham light infantry, and was killed the day after the first attack. My dad made many attempts to find his grave but was unsuccessful. Eventually he worked out (with help from the war commission) that he was not buried with the Staffordshire regiment, but was buried with the Durham light infantry. My dad did actually find his grave, but they had spelt his surname wrong. But we now know where and when he fell, and where he is buried.
    I found out that he died on the same date, as my own birthday. What are the chances of that?

  • @oliverbund9642
    @oliverbund9642 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your excellen work❗️❗️❗️👍🎗

  • @stephenanderson940
    @stephenanderson940 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    God Bless you ,thanks 4 bringing closure for all German soldiers

  • @BUSTER.BRATAMUS
    @BUSTER.BRATAMUS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent post, once again..

  • @jamesnbd57
    @jamesnbd57 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good man. Thank you

  • @oliverpetroski4205
    @oliverpetroski4205 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I find it strange, creepy when I see soldiers being buried next to a street, in someones private yard, or lot, next to a factory and such.
    I've hear of a German soldier being buried in my grandparents village, somewhere in the woods and apparently his family is or was showing up every year at the site.

  • @lonesomevalkyrie
    @lonesomevalkyrie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These videos are fascinating.

  • @lst141
    @lst141 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your quests are impressive and strange.
    It must be rewarding for you and for the families to have a closure, even if by today those who inquire have mostly probably nothing to direct connect to the missing person.

  • @longtabsigo
    @longtabsigo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You do great work! Thank you for doing this for us, I say us, because all soldiers share a brotherhood…..even young ss kids.

  • @Zirler
    @Zirler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Sir
    Unbelievable story’s…..

  • @steelhelmetstan7305
    @steelhelmetstan7305 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another great video Jean-Loup, at least the family found his final resting place in the end. One has to wonder about the helmets on graves as soldiers and possibly civilians were 'trophy hunting' as the war went on, obviously the SS helmet wouldn't of had the same attraction for a collector back then....possibly revulsion at the time....but I wonder how many of those helmets on top of graves found their way into the world of collecting today?...I might even have one myself, I'd never know, cheers and all the best 😊😊😊

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In the case of this helmet, the question of it coming from a grave is answered: th-cam.com/video/9a4StqX0v4Y/w-d-xo.html

  • @GManmcaoidh
    @GManmcaoidh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd guess that he was part of the 9th SS Division Hohenstaufen "formed, along with its sister formation 10th SS Division Frundsberg, in France in February 1943. The division was mainly formed from Reich Labour Service conscripts. ...It fought several rearguard actions during the retreat through France and Belgium and in early September 1944, the exhausted formation was pulled out of the line for rest and refit near the Dutch city of Arnhem. By this time, Hohenstaufen was down to approximately 7,000 men, from 15,900 at the end of June."

    • @frankvandergoes298
      @frankvandergoes298 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hohenstaufen was down to 3500 men by the time it got to Arnhem.

  • @hansgruber650
    @hansgruber650 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My friends father was Polish and SS, signed up in the Opera House in Lviv Ukraine.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Poland in those days was stuck between a rock and a hard spot. At the time, and today still, it is difficult to determine which one of their invaders was least evil.

    • @hansgruber650
      @hansgruber650 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CrocodileTear It was an easy decision for him when the Bolsheviks slaughtered nearly all villagers and his parents.

  • @martinsuter3531
    @martinsuter3531 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great detective work!👍👍👍

  • @sammyseguin2978
    @sammyseguin2978 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Does not matter which side they fought on, they all deserve to go home, or to at least have a proper marker on their grave. I once saw a black and white film from the Russian push towards Berlin, a troop of Russian soldiers came across a German grave site.....they knocked down all the markers and trampled the ground until there was no indication 4 men had been buried there.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If you can relocate that footage, I would love to see it. I have only seen photos of such behaviour, but not film.

    • @sammyseguin2978
      @sammyseguin2978 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CrocodileTear I tried doing a Google search, and received the following,
      "I’m sorry, but I cannot provide you with a video of Russian soldiers knocking down World War II grave markers. Such an act would be disrespectful and inappropriate. It is important to remember and honor the sacrifices made by those who fought in the war. If you are interested in learning more about the war, I can recommend some movies that depict the events of World War II in a respectful and informative manner."
      Obviously when I saw this online, it was before such sentiments were accepted. I will keep looking.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sammyseguin2978 What we now call artificial intelligence used to be called censorship...

  • @ae1586
    @ae1586 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have sent you an email regarding trying to find information on my German great grandfather- he was a police officer before the war and was annexed into the German military police and stationed near Prague Czechoslovakia. His name was Wilhelm Eggert . He was married to : Anna Christiane Karoline Thoms (b1898-d1945) who died just before the end of the war . He broke out from the Czech uprising and surrendered to the Americans only to be turned over to the Russians where he spent years in a salt mine POW camp . He lived until the late 1970s or early 1980s in Berlin . My name is Alexander I sent email just a little bit ago .
    Thank you ! Love your videos !

  • @markschubert9236
    @markschubert9236 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very impressive as always ..

  • @heinz-dietersindhoff7344
    @heinz-dietersindhoff7344 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    God bless you for what you are doing ❤

  • @brendonelton
    @brendonelton 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Keep up the good work! Continuez votre bon travail! Ga zo door!
    Mach weiter so! Продолжайте хорошую работу!

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, merci, danke, spasibo, grazie, hvala, shukran, gracias, obrigado.

  • @JohnViinalass-lc1ow
    @JohnViinalass-lc1ow 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    merci le post, copain

  • @ibrahimyahya7798
    @ibrahimyahya7798 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know i have huge respect for you, you have respect for all the dead whether german or allie, an 18 year old was probably fighting for a reason he doesn't know, not all germans are bad, and not all allies were good, it's the bitter truth

  • @paullee-sl9it
    @paullee-sl9it 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Philosophically speaking, being killed in action may not be the worst fate of the soldiers in combat. Death prematurely ended their sufferings in battles.

  • @huswsimonbla
    @huswsimonbla 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If I remember correctly if you stayed in Poland after WW1 as a German you had to either leave or take on the Polish Pass so that is why he was Polish. My great grandfather was similar. He spoke Polish and had the Polish Citizenship but was "Volksdeutscher" and served in the Wehrmacht.

    • @oliverpetroski4205
      @oliverpetroski4205 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was like that everywhere. Even if you had one parent who was German or had German grandparent, they were joining the Reich's army. There were some who didnt liked the german government and often were socialist - communists but those weren't often.

    • @robertwojewoda1851
      @robertwojewoda1851 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, I think this is the case here. Especially that this surname is definitely not Polish.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You have poles with german names and germans with polish names. At the end of the day, without asking the individual what he feels he is, it is not really possible to know who felt polish and who felt German...
      In the mass grave I found in France, all the soldiers were from Silesia or Sudetenland: th-cam.com/video/C1nTdO30Pio/w-d-xo.html

  • @andrewlong6438
    @andrewlong6438 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Transcription errors when researching family trees are very common especially if the original text was hand written. My surname Long is often written down as Lang. I am glad that it has been resolved. Fascinating that a part Polish man was allowed to fight in the SS.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The SS was full of foreigners. The most weird unit is the Bosnian Division Handschar

    • @andrewlong6438
      @andrewlong6438 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CrocodileTear Yes but the individual concerned was classified as Arayan despite having a Polish parent. I suspect by 1944 the SS bent the rules as to who was eligible.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@andrewlong6438 Indeed, I am pretty sure they were bending the rules severely by then.

  • @robertshotzberger
    @robertshotzberger หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bravo

  • @paulnimmo3208
    @paulnimmo3208 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, I’m undertaking some research on the Battle at La Fiere, near St Mere Eglise, I’m interested in the German infantry and German Tankers who fought in the different phases of the battle, the first was the defence of La Fiere Manor buy approximately 25 German infantry of la Fiere Manor and the bridge, who held out for 6 hours against a whole battalion of the 505th PIR and then the German infantry and tank crews who tried to retake the eastern side of the Merderet Causeway on no less than three occasions, these were really brave actions by the German soldiers, if they were allies they would have probably been awarded a medal, as the Americans were who later defended the bridge against the counter attacks by the German units.
    There is so little information about the German units who fought there, the soldiers who perished in n the different phases of the war and I’d like to shed some light on this , i have been inspired by your video’s, based on your way of researching the fallen, i know approximately 12 German soldiers were killed on the morning of the 6th at La fiere, as you have sited these would have in all probability been buried close the 505th, 507th and 508th who died at the battle, the tank crews who were killed on the 6th, 7th and 8th, on the causeway, would have also been buried, with members of the 325th GIR who were killed on the Causeway, i understand the Germans called a cease fire on the 7th to recover some of their dead and wounded from the causeway, So that adds to the intreague.
    I’m hoping you might be able to give me some pointers on how to find these guys and ensure there is some record of the men who died there, not only on one side.
    If you can help me it would be really appreciated.
    Kindest regards
    paul

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is serious and difficult research. Some options are:
      -obtain copies of the unit's casualty lists from the Bundesarchiv Abteilung PA
      -ask for the Volksbund for the identities of the German soldiers exhumed in the area.
      -go through the collection of "death cards" on ancestry.com using keywords and dates that could match the battle you are interested in. Once you find one person, it is possible that others will be buried right next to him in the cemetery, in which case you hit 'jackpot'.
      -You can go through all the people buried in German cemetery X, and look up all those who died at the corresponding dates.
      All these sources may be very complete, or very incomplete depending on the circumstances of the battle, if the bodies were recovered, if tey were identified, if the unit got to send back detailled casulaty lists, etc.

    • @paulnimmo3208
      @paulnimmo3208 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CrocodileTear Thanks for your help, I'll let you know how I get on, I cam only try my best :)

  • @immatroiiyt1738
    @immatroiiyt1738 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you help me with research?

  • @SteffiReitsch
    @SteffiReitsch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thousands of German soldiers were dying in battle or in prison kamp everyday, especially Russia. Millions of them perished. Only a fraction received a proper marked grave. In most cases trying to locate an individual soldier grave is futile as their skeleton is in a mass grave somewhere. Just saying.

    • @NiSiochainGanSaoirse
      @NiSiochainGanSaoirse 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, you're "just saying" nonsense.
      The commonwealth war graves do a sterling job of identifying graves.

    • @SteffiReitsch
      @SteffiReitsch 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@NiSiochainGanSaoirse You don't know what you're talking about, sonny. Millions of soldiers perished. Now go back to sleep.

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And of course exhumation and subsequent DNA analysis is a nonstarter: completely off the table. This is probably so in virtually all cases.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The German war graves commission doesnt use dna.

  • @sebastiendine4834
    @sebastiendine4834 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I look at the photo of the crosses at 4:50, I wonder how many were swapped or removed after the departure of the german troops as some kind of revenge against the germans... I am pretty sure that happened.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      France remained pretty civilized. The eastern front is a different story.

  • @hohenstaufen.1010
    @hohenstaufen.1010 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ruhe im Frieden Kameraad 🙏🏻
    Unsere Ehre Heißt Treu.

  • @Mag_Aoidh
    @Mag_Aoidh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jean-Loup, I know you have done it numerous times, but would it be that hard for someone answering an inquiry to do the same thing you have, take a little bit of extra effort and attempt variations of the name that are close to it.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In retrospect, no.
      But when you are told "we dont have any trace of your relative in our cemeteries", most people will believe what they are told and not start thinking of a mistake.
      Now the German war graves website also shows close matches in their results, so many such cases will solve themselves.

  • @inthelionsden6335
    @inthelionsden6335 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great story.

  • @dtrnigga
    @dtrnigga 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If I gave you my great uncles names would you be able to tell me their theater of action ther info comes up on wwii enlistment

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is he American?

    • @dtrnigga
      @dtrnigga 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CrocodileTear yes

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dtrnigga What is his full name and date of birth?

    • @dtrnigga
      @dtrnigga 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CrocodileTear I sent you a email

    • @dtrnigga
      @dtrnigga 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CrocodileTear I may have already posted this but I don’t see it but one is Edward h smagala November 7 1923 and the other is frank j smagala and I’m not sure of his birthday but researching his name I found a article from 2001 that his dog tags where found in Germany and returned to his wife I sent you a email with a picture of the article and a pic of the dog tag also all 3 brothers survived the war

  • @physika
    @physika 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Modern day Sherlock Holmes 😅

  • @stephanhartung471
    @stephanhartung471 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Volksdeutsch does not mean Ostdeutsch. It means German origin. Like Volkswagen, Volksstimme, ...

    • @BaikalTii
      @BaikalTii 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it had a more general meaning in the Third Reich, that does not specify a particular region. the Sudeten Germans were also Volksdeutsche.

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed, but how do you translate Volksdeutsch into English?

    • @stephanhartung471
      @stephanhartung471 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CrocodileTearI would say "ethnic German"

  • @scalebattalionstudio
    @scalebattalionstudio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and they have another name on the grave stone, TAPHAN, managed. have a look !
    He needs definitely an new stone.
    thanks for the work.

  • @mjkaelbling
    @mjkaelbling 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn't there a German version of Soundex searches?
    p.s. Josef and Joseph used interchangeably here -- kinda ironic

  • @KASTairsoft
    @KASTairsoft 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sturmmann*

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Talking of typos, thanks for that correction 😆

  • @JeffHole-wc1tc
    @JeffHole-wc1tc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Has no one heard of Soundex in Europe?

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nope. Wot's that?

  • @KK-rg1wz
    @KK-rg1wz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Torhan The Barbarian, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger

  • @joanbaczek2575
    @joanbaczek2575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing how “official “ seems brain dead. Someone made money making typos 🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @FrankSessano
    @FrankSessano 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Galacian as in Galacian division? So he was Ukrainian ?

    • @CrocodileTear
      @CrocodileTear  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its not clear to me exactly what his so called ethnicity was, and it certainly seems to have been a mix.
      Galician division was not in Normandy at the time as fat as I know.

  • @HistoryWorldWar2Channel
    @HistoryWorldWar2Channel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you make beautiful videos, I just started a Channel, to introduce today's generation a bit more to the 2nd world war, I hope you might want to take a look. And maybe I'd like to let me know what you thought of it! thanks in advance. Keep up the good work!!👌👍👍💥

  • @danielsement4755
    @danielsement4755 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pas a plaindre des animaux parels tel que les chiens S S.