Timecode for multicam and audio is really underrated thing lot of videographers dont know about. Click of a button and davinci syncs the multicam timeline in 0.1 seconds. No analyzing audio tracks, no waiting, no errors with some audio files not syncing up etc.
Among the fifty bazillion tutorial videos on YT, yours are always among the best! Your pace, delivery, and teaching style are super on point - thanks for being such a great resource for the community.
Im glad you are making this video because I have been preaching timecode with my colleagues, but no one pays attention so I am sure this will help so many people.
This is a good workaround but it seems a little clunky as well. The deity pr2s coming out will negate the need for an ultra sync blue because they have time code built in and can be monitored on the app. Also they will be cheaper. Then you can get the cheaper deity tc1 to mount on camera, overall save money and less parts to potentially fail. I get where you are going with this Matt you are trying to appeal to those who already have their gear but for those that don’t this is a better long term investment.
very timely video Matt, i just started using tc after much frustration syncing audio and video...i use deity tc-1 3 pack ultrasync blue ultrasync one tascam X8 with bt adapter and rode wireless pro ALL TC CAPABLE!!! got my cold breakout and setup tc on devices and Canon r7 and Blackmagic bmpcc 6k PRO, down to about 8-10 minutes to GO SHOOT NOW status, but i gotta tell you it is TRICKY DICKY TIME easy to do once you practice it a few times i would never shoot a wedding without testing this setup thanks for your efforts man it helps those of us looking to up our production values
Thank Matt for this PRACTICAL video. One suggestion, please. If possbile, could you please do a video on Timecoding with Taskcam FR-AV2? One thing that all the TH-cam video reviews have not mentioned is how accurate its time code generator is. In other words, after how many hours will the timecode drift and need to be reset.
Note that the Canon M50 mic input is not true stereo, but one channel will always bleed into the other channel amd vice versa, so recording scratch audio and timecode onto two discrete channels will not work. My workaround: use the Ultrasync slate app on an old iPad, connect that to the Ultrasync Blue and show the iPad screen to the camera at the beginning of each take :)
In one of your videos, you say how much you love the Deity PR2 and how it can jam the timecode in a camera like the Sony FX6 (which I am renting for an important field trip to Indonesia). after watching that and some Curtis Judd videos on teh PR2, I bought it and think it is ALMOST perfect. My problem is I also need to use the Zoom F3 on a boom. Is there any way to use the PR2 to set the timecode on the Zoom, or do I still need to use the Atomos Ultrasync Blue? How to I sync my F3 to the other two; the FX6 and the PR2?
I shoot ceremonies with up to 8 cameras & several recorders/lav mics & I edit in Resolve so I know how hit & miss the sync audio by waveforms can be. My solution to the whole “timecode” scenario was to purchase “Syncaila” & itI have never an issue since. Even all the little individual 5 second clips form my roving gimbal are synced perfectly & I can shoot any frame rate & there is no extra pressure on the day having to worry about all that timecode setup stuff. Nice review but no thanks!…….lol👍🤗🤘👌I’d love to see you test & review Syncaila. 😝
I use syncaila and well is it much better then manually syncing based on waveform……DUH lol. It does work magic in ceremonies I’ve never really had a complaint when it comes to syncing the whole ceremony with multiple cameras and audio recorders and compared to other programs I’ve used it sync even the shortest clips but one thing I noticed is that it’s not that good with loud receptions. It works for ceremonies it does and that alone is worth the cost but a lot of my work is to deliver the complete day ceremony and reception and when it came to reception I started to experience audio drift and man is that a pain to fix when your dealing with 5 hours worth of footage and audio from the dj. That alone is why I’m looking at timecode not blue sync but I’m thinking of Deity. I agree with you that syncaila is a pretty dang good program it amazes me what it can do but the audio drift in the loud receptions is where it’s failing me and if using time code will save me the 3+ hours of my life fixing audio drift in my reception footage im gonna buy it. Sorry for the long winded comment I just hope this gives someone else the info they might be looking for in the syncaila program considering I couldn’t find any info online about it for wedding reception. It is worth the money for sure but I think it’s limits are loud environments. At least for me 😂
so how did you process your slow motion footage to be so smooth if you didnt film at 59/60fps? i have a7iv and im trying to sync music video audio from speaker with timecode due to davinci not syncing because the audio is too far away from the camera to speaker etc..
Hi Matt, I just brought the testacy x6 because you said its good, and now im using Sony FX6 any idea what is the easiest way to do timecode with this to please?
Hey Matt, thank you so much for the video! So I'm a fx30 user and I'm super new to timecode. I also has two DR10L-Pro and a 416 w Zoom F3, I want to sync up all my 4 devices at all times. Does that mean that I should have at least 3 ultra blue ones?
Tentacle Sync E with a zoom F6 is killer easy but ya might need a cellphone -Android and Iphones work great. Tentacle software does all the work...might be a little more expensive but is so easy. Ya just have to pay for convenience. I'm curious if the splitter works with Tentacle with a DJI mic connected . . .
This is such a fail you need to purchase a bunch of these for different cameras I wish it could just jam since many cameras take timecode….is a fail that zoom and tascam went with this instead of tenticle sync or deity
Before anyone with a Nikon Z8 or Z9 runs out and buys two timecode devices, note that both cameras can receive timesync over Bluetooth directly from the Ultrasync Blue. Therefore, for example, a Nikon Z8/Z9 and a Zoom F2-BT, could both receive timesync from one Ultrasync Blue device over Bluetooth.
Actually, the Nikon Z8 doesn’t use the MB-10 grip. It uses the MB-12 grip. I’m not aware of, nor could I find references to any timecode restrictions when using the MB-12 grip. Nikon’s Z8 is a top professional video camera. It would be surprising if it restricted access to a key professional feature. :)
Diety has a nice timecode ecosystem, but the PR-2 is delayed on its release, and their wireless Theos sets don’t record and transmit at the same time for the US. Tentacle also has a nice system.
I don’t think the splitter cable would work with the other time code boxes because they have scratch audio on the other channel. Only will work with this system
Why not go with with a Deity system? The wireless transmitters record internally 32 bit float and support timecode. And the timecode kit from Deity syncs just like the transmitters through the app. You'll be able to monitor audio where as with the recorders you can't. Yes it's more expensive but I think it's a more open system that would work with more gear than the Atomos one.
Deity makes great stuff, but I haven't had a chance to test it yet. I know many filmmakers have Zoom or Tascam audio recorders and want to use timecode with them so I made this video. :) Hoping to make a video about Deity in the future.
@@whoismatt not complaining of course. The contrary, I appreciate the content because it's very helpful. I know it's not easy to keep making videos and I don't take it for granted. The Deity Theos though addressed a concern of mine. In the past I've had unusable audio in cases where there was rustle noise, cables coming undone, drop outs. With it I can monitor the audio for these issues, and in case of a drop out I'd have the recording.
Hello Mr. Matt....what to say? You nail it with the awesome teaching style. When have a chance see if there a way to pair ultrasyncblue with iphone 15 pro max that I use for video recording. I do use blackmagic camera app which pair nicely with iphone 15, but blackmagic app refuses to talk with syncblue :). Pretty sure is a compatibility thing. For audio recording I am using 2 Tascam DL-10L Pro and Portacapture X8 as a back up, I could sync tascam products with ultra sync.... the video portion is what I need to sync too. Hopefully , I don't have to buy a camera :). Send me your thoughts. Note: Thank you for the cheat sheet, I am one of those that like to read (refresher) after a video.
Hello Mr. Matt, when all devices (audio,video and ultrasync blue) are conected and in sync (timecode timer is running and like in 1:30 minutes etc. Then I start to click the record button on all devices....so, if time code timer already started...how the audio and video catch each other even if timecode timer already started? Looking forward to hear from you. Thank You
it's a bit of pain because if you don't use a camera with external timecode input, you can't use the mic of your camera anymore. But for you it works with this downside?
I would like to know how this works when: -You say are filming a wedding and you’re chopping up clips and using them here and there and everywhere on the time line. -when filming a wedding with multiple cameras and the cameras are in different locations throughout the day and together for parts of the day.
1. You group up synced video with synced audio clips so that no matter where you move them they stay in sync 2. The cameras can be across the world or on a moon and it would sync perfectly.
What Adam said. As long as you start the sync even if the timecode devices lose their wireless connection they will still hold time and reconnect when they get close again. You do have to consider there could be timecode drift where the audio and video could get out of sync by a second or two if the devices are disconnected for many hours.
@@lowerleftsideYes. Just sync everything at the beginning of the day and as long as your gear all stays relatively close together it should stayed synced. If you’re going for a super long day you may need to re-jam timecode part way through. But for a standard wedding I don’t think you’ll have much of a problem.
I don't get why Atomos didn't create a a UltraSync One with bluetooth and why Tascam choose this weird timecode format. Now I need two devices. Hell, create a cheaper Blue addon that converts the bluetooth to 3.5mm.
@@JonathanPajakLensCulture 2 cameras and 2 mics and 1 recorder and maybe 2 recorders if it’s a Catholic ceremony. So ya. But tbh it’s not hard to sync everything because I found a routine and I’m able to organize it in sync on my footage the night of the wedding before I go to bed so 🤷🏽♂️
This is overly complicated set up for simply jamming and syncing time code. Hope they come out with a more plug and play solution skipping all these set up steps when it only has 1 job
This product is expensive and inefficient.I hate it. I don't understand how Tascam didn't make their product with internal timecode. I bought the Portacapture X8 and it has been a headache for me.
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Timecode for multicam and audio is really underrated thing lot of videographers dont know about.
Click of a button and davinci syncs the multicam timeline in 0.1 seconds. No analyzing audio tracks, no waiting, no errors with some audio files not syncing up etc.
Yup it's pretty darn great
After using timecode for multi-camera shoots, I can never go back. Super underrated indeed
My Ai assistant told me it didn't work with Multicam setups so 🤞 Let's see if I can figure this out (By following these steps)
Among the fifty bazillion tutorial videos on YT, yours are always among the best! Your pace, delivery, and teaching style are super on point - thanks for being such a great resource for the community.
Im glad you are making this video because I have been preaching timecode with my colleagues, but no one pays attention so I am sure this will help so many people.
Running Tascam X8 - ultrasync blue - ultra sync one - sync bac pros - annnd the connect and love it. Works like a charm just costy.
Awesome!
Hi Matt thanks for the video. I would like to see syncing FX3 cameras with timecode on FCPX. Thank you.
This is a good workaround but it seems a little clunky as well. The deity pr2s coming out will negate the need for an ultra sync blue because they have time code built in and can be monitored on the app. Also they will be cheaper. Then you can get the cheaper deity tc1 to mount on camera, overall save money and less parts to potentially fail. I get where you are going with this Matt you are trying to appeal to those who already have their gear but for those that don’t this is a better long term investment.
very timely video Matt, i just started using tc after much frustration syncing audio and video...i use deity tc-1 3 pack ultrasync blue ultrasync one tascam X8 with bt adapter and rode wireless pro ALL TC CAPABLE!!! got my cold breakout and setup tc on devices and Canon r7 and Blackmagic bmpcc 6k PRO, down to about 8-10 minutes to GO SHOOT NOW status, but i gotta tell you it is TRICKY DICKY TIME easy to do once you practice it a few times i would never shoot a wedding without testing this setup thanks for your efforts man it helps those of us looking to up our production values
Thanks Rob!
I was looking at the Deity system because I already use their mics and have been pleased with them.
Thank Matt for this PRACTICAL video. One suggestion, please. If possbile, could you please do a video on Timecoding with Taskcam FR-AV2? One thing that all the TH-cam video reviews have not mentioned is how accurate its time code generator is. In other words, after how many hours will the timecode drift and need to be reset.
Tc-1 like +70hrs
Note that the Canon M50 mic input is not true stereo, but one channel will always bleed into the other channel amd vice versa, so recording scratch audio and timecode onto two discrete channels will not work. My workaround: use the Ultrasync slate app on an old iPad, connect that to the Ultrasync Blue and show the iPad screen to the camera at the beginning of each take :)
Amazing lol
In one of your videos, you say how much you love the Deity PR2 and how it can jam the timecode in a camera like the Sony FX6 (which I am renting for an important field trip to Indonesia). after watching that and some Curtis Judd videos on teh PR2, I bought it and think it is ALMOST perfect. My problem is I also need to use the Zoom F3 on a boom. Is there any way to use the PR2 to set the timecode on the Zoom, or do I still need to use the Atomos Ultrasync Blue? How to I sync my F3 to the other two; the FX6 and the PR2?
I shoot ceremonies with up to 8 cameras & several recorders/lav mics & I edit in Resolve so I know how hit & miss the sync audio by waveforms can be. My solution to the whole “timecode” scenario was to purchase “Syncaila” & itI have never an issue since. Even all the little individual 5 second clips form my roving gimbal are synced perfectly & I can shoot any frame rate & there is no extra pressure on the day having to worry about all that timecode setup stuff. Nice review but no thanks!…….lol👍🤗🤘👌I’d love to see you test & review Syncaila. 😝
Is this the same style of program as Pluraleyes?
@@JonathanPajakLensCulture yes it is, but it works better & is less expensive. I’m really happy with it. Saves so much time!
Syncaila? Link?
@@nicholaspetersen1629 th-cam.com/video/4Qnn4Rjsefo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hKsxILqkWk9GMoi-
I use syncaila and well is it much better then manually syncing based on waveform……DUH lol. It does work magic in ceremonies I’ve never really had a complaint when it comes to syncing the whole ceremony with multiple cameras and audio recorders and compared to other programs I’ve used it sync even the shortest clips but one thing I noticed is that it’s not that good with loud receptions. It works for ceremonies it does and that alone is worth the cost but a lot of my work is to deliver the complete day ceremony and reception and when it came to reception I started to experience audio drift and man is that a pain to fix when your dealing with 5 hours worth of footage and audio from the dj. That alone is why I’m looking at timecode not blue sync but I’m thinking of Deity. I agree with you that syncaila is a pretty dang good program it amazes me what it can do but the audio drift in the loud receptions is where it’s failing me and if using time code will save me the 3+ hours of my life fixing audio drift in my reception footage im gonna buy it. Sorry for the long winded comment I just hope this gives someone else the info they might be looking for in the syncaila program considering I couldn’t find any info online about it for wedding reception. It is worth the money for sure but I think it’s limits are loud environments. At least for me 😂
so how did you process your slow motion footage to be so smooth if you didnt film at 59/60fps? i have a7iv and im trying to sync music video audio from speaker with timecode due to davinci not syncing because the audio is too far away from the camera to speaker etc..
Can you do a walkthrough on using the Deity PR-2 to input timecode in your camera.
Hi Matt, I just brought the testacy x6 because you said its good, and now im using Sony FX6 any idea what is the easiest way to do timecode with this to please?
Hey Matt, thank you so much for the video! So I'm a fx30 user and I'm super new to timecode. I also has two DR10L-Pro and a 416 w Zoom F3, I want to sync up all my 4 devices at all times. Does that mean that I should have at least 3 ultra blue ones?
Tentacle Sync E with a zoom F6 is killer easy but ya might need a cellphone -Android and Iphones work great. Tentacle software does all the work...might be a little more expensive but is so easy. Ya just have to pay for convenience. I'm curious if the splitter works with Tentacle with a DJI mic connected . . .
This is such a fail you need to purchase a bunch of these for different cameras I wish it could just jam since many cameras take timecode….is a fail that zoom and tascam went with this instead of tenticle sync or deity
Is there a way to sync the x8 with deity’s new pr2 and the tc-1?
This was great. I wanna know about your position on on-camera monitors.
You are the best! Yes would love to see TC with Rose Wireless Pro if possible.
Hey Matt, can you do a video demonstrating the Tentacle Sync E and Tentacle Track E.
Thanks in advance.
Please how to timecode sync FX30 with Zoom F2BT F3 with BT adapter, no audtiotrack but metadata - ? Doesn't seem possible to me.
Great run-down for timecode settings
Before anyone with a Nikon Z8 or Z9 runs out and buys two timecode devices, note that both cameras can receive timesync over Bluetooth directly from the Ultrasync Blue. Therefore, for example, a Nikon Z8/Z9 and a Zoom F2-BT, could both receive timesync from one Ultrasync Blue device over Bluetooth.
Actually, the Nikon Z8 doesn’t use the MB-10 grip. It uses the MB-12 grip. I’m not aware of, nor could I find references to any timecode restrictions when using the MB-12 grip.
Nikon’s Z8 is a top professional video camera. It would be surprising if it restricted access to a key professional feature. :)
Tae, the MB-10 is for the Z6/7. As far as I know, those camera’s don’t have built-in support for the Ultrasync Blue :(
Yes, but only the Z8 and Z9 have support for the Ultrasync Blue built in. It was a cooperative effort between Ultrasync and Nikon. @@tropevp33
@@tropevp33 Apparently, Bluetooth isn’t enough. The camera has to support it, and only the Z8 and Z9 do. Or, you can plug it in with a cable.
Can I put a deity tc1 on a cell phone to have the timecode?
Any idea if the Tascam Bluetooth will synch to a Tentacle TC device?
And by Tascam, I mean the Portacapture device
How does this change with the A7sIII FW 3.0?
Diety has a nice timecode ecosystem, but the PR-2 is delayed on its release, and their wireless Theos sets don’t record and transmit at the same time for the US. Tentacle also has a nice system.
You're right!
I don’t think the splitter cable would work with the other time code boxes because they have scratch audio on the other channel. Only will work with this system
Why not go with with a Deity system? The wireless transmitters record internally 32 bit float and support timecode. And the timecode kit from Deity syncs just like the transmitters through the app. You'll be able to monitor audio where as with the recorders you can't. Yes it's more expensive but I think it's a more open system that would work with more gear than the Atomos one.
Are you referring to the Deity Theos?
Deity makes great stuff, but I haven't had a chance to test it yet. I know many filmmakers have Zoom or Tascam audio recorders and want to use timecode with them so I made this video. :)
Hoping to make a video about Deity in the future.
@@whoismattI’ve used Deity and it’s unbelievable. You should definitely look into it.
@@REMY.C. yes. And the TC-1 timecode units.
@@whoismatt not complaining of course. The contrary, I appreciate the content because it's very helpful. I know it's not easy to keep making videos and I don't take it for granted.
The Deity Theos though addressed a concern of mine. In the past I've had unusable audio in cases where there was rustle noise, cables coming undone, drop outs. With it I can monitor the audio for these issues, and in case of a drop out I'd have the recording.
I lost it when you said we cant shoot at 60fps. i have a sony a7iv and sony a7iii ( how do i run timecode and still shoot at 60fps) please help.
Hello Mr. Matt....what to say? You nail it with the awesome teaching style. When have a chance see if there a way to pair ultrasyncblue with iphone 15 pro max that I use for video recording.
I do use blackmagic camera app which pair nicely with iphone 15, but blackmagic app refuses to talk with syncblue :). Pretty sure is a compatibility thing. For audio recording I am using 2 Tascam DL-10L Pro and Portacapture X8 as a back up, I could sync tascam products with ultra sync.... the video portion is what I need to sync too. Hopefully , I don't have to buy a camera :). Send me your thoughts. Note: Thank you for the cheat sheet, I am one of those that like to read (refresher) after a video.
Hello Mr. Matt, when all devices (audio,video and ultrasync blue) are conected and in sync (timecode timer is running and like in 1:30 minutes etc. Then I start to click the record button on all devices....so, if time code timer already started...how the audio and video catch each other even if timecode timer already started? Looking forward to hear from you. Thank You
Video on deity time code on cameras that don’t support Timecode like my a7III. Thanks.
it's a bit of pain because if you don't use a camera with external timecode input, you can't use the mic of your camera anymore. But for you it works with this downside?
Can the Timecode be combined with the Sony ECM-B1M microphones?
I would like to know that too. As far as i know using the mic. mini jack input will override the digital used on the hotshoe
Wait, so we don’t need time code for the audio recorder?
I'm not sure yet but im pretty sure you saved my ass on this one, Why do i do this to myself 😭
I would like to know how this works when:
-You say are filming a wedding and you’re chopping up clips and using them here and there and everywhere on the time line.
-when filming a wedding with multiple cameras and the cameras are in different locations throughout the day and together for parts of the day.
1. You group up synced video with synced audio clips so that no matter where you move them they stay in sync
2. The cameras can be across the world or on a moon and it would sync perfectly.
What Adam said. As long as you start the sync even if the timecode devices lose their wireless connection they will still hold time and reconnect when they get close again. You do have to consider there could be timecode drift where the audio and video could get out of sync by a second or two if the devices are disconnected for many hours.
@@AdamKuzniar so the Bluetooth timecode sync only needs to happen periodically, say once at the start of the day?
@@lowerleftsideYes. Just sync everything at the beginning of the day and as long as your gear all stays relatively close together it should stayed synced. If you’re going for a super long day you may need to re-jam timecode part way through. But for a standard wedding I don’t think you’ll have much of a problem.
How about the new Rode Wireless Pro mics? I’m wondering you’ve reviewed it yet.
Beta premiere pro needs to go live already with audio timecode support.
thanks for sharing this, now I know that time code is definitely not for me.:)
I don't get why Atomos didn't create a a UltraSync One with bluetooth and why Tascam choose this weird timecode format.
Now I need two devices. Hell, create a cheaper Blue addon that converts the bluetooth to 3.5mm.
Matt, I think that you may have linked the wrong splitter cable. B&H Q&A indicates that this is not the intended purpose.
I prefer using Tentacle Sync.
I shoot between 120, 60, and 24fp all day LMAO this is a big no for me
Yeah right and if I have multiple mic I have to have that device for all of them? Like say 4 mics during a ceremony?
@@JonathanPajakLensCulture 2 cameras and 2 mics and 1 recorder and maybe 2 recorders if it’s a Catholic ceremony. So ya. But tbh it’s not hard to sync everything because I found a routine and I’m able to organize it in sync on my footage the night of the wedding before I go to bed so 🤷🏽♂️
@@tropevp33 I have 2 a7sIII it lets me with all the frame rates :)
Why can't they make just a single device with cable + bt so you don't have to go through all this nonsense?
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This is overly complicated set up for simply jamming and syncing time code. Hope they come out with a more plug and play solution skipping all these set up steps when it only has 1 job
Why can't you just use Plural Eyes to sync your footage...one click, that's it!
Maxon (the owner of Pluraleyes) isn’t updating the program anymore and has left it to die. :(
This product is expensive and inefficient.I hate it. I don't understand how Tascam didn't make their product with internal timecode. I bought the Portacapture X8 and it has been a headache for me.
What issues are you having. I love mine. Hate that I’m locked into Atomos Timecode system but overall it works great.
That got exepensive very quickly... and too complicated for one person.