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- Several topics are covered:
1) Unboxing, showing how well it was packed for shipping.
2) Discuss the trials of a newbie and the difficulty of finding a good handpan.
3) Ask long time handpan players in Handpan Facebook groups their opinion on the sound of this handpan and whether it is worth the price paid (Please focus on the sound of the handpan and ignore my playing skill level. This is the first day in my entire life I have ever played a real handpan. I have played my $24 homemade saucepan for two months and a RAV Vast2 for one month).
I have received no compensation for the products described in this video.
Sounds nice Steve! Would be cool if you could upload a new video and show us your progress on the playing.
Great video for beginners! Love your enthusiasm. In regards to your playing, we all go through the same process when we start out. You will find that a lighter touch will get you to your sweet spot. Also, try and relax your hands.
Nice guy having fun like a kid, this is inspiration. Maybe you can upload a video with you playing these instruments, now it's a year already since you got it, you must have improved your skills. Cheers!
You might try with softer touches; that alone should reduce some of the slapping-sound. Think flick!
Thanks again Carol. Yes, you and Angela (below) and several other have told me to use a "significant softer touch". I tried it and it feels magical. Wonderful suggestion! I just have to keep repeating the mantra to myself until it sticks, "This is is not my djembe. This is is not my djembe. This is is not my djembe." :-)
Love your video SteveG. I also bought a Rav new, Dec last year, and have since bought a second used Rav. You are spot on regarding used instruments. I’m happy with my used Rav for the price, however am pretty sure it has been ‘used’. I really want a handpan, and have been listening and watching and researching for eight months now. Been going round in circles, going a bit crazy. You’ve really helped me regarding where to look for purchasing and importantly, tuning. As I’m in Australia, it’s narrowed things down for me a lot. I haven’t played a handpan, but can tell that you may be a touch heavy handed and a quicker, lighter touch would no doubt produce a more refined sound. Lucky for you to have so many handpan makers around you (so to speak). Your HP sounds lovely, btw. I think I’ll settle for the C# Annaziska in the end. Just found your vid, so you’ve obviously had it for a while now. Hope you are still in love with it. Thanks again. Happy playing.😊
Thanks for your comments Cheryl. Yes, my first day of playing was heavy handed and I hit the wrong spots giving a slappy sound. My technique has since improved and I am still enjoying playing. I remember feeling as you, going a bit crazy, around in circles, over handpan shopping. One the handpan arrived, that all went away. I looked on a map and found these two handpan makers down under. You probably already know them, but just in case, here they are: www.handpan.com.au/ and www.celestialsound.com.au/ - meeting them and talking with them would likely help significantly. Enjoy your RAV and your handpan when you decide on one. Once you decide, it may take many months of waiting till your instrument is handcrafted. I was lucky, contacted the maker at a good time, and was able to have one made in two months. Many wait much longer than that. I have heard of some people waiting two years until their handpan was made because of the long waiting list. Enjoy.
You cant go wrong with a Makai. Don't hit the pan so hard! Decrease your hit strength by about 50%. The pan will sing much better! It's all about dynamics. Have fun! I don't like a logo on my pans either. I like the sound to do the talking.
Thanks. Yes, I am working on a much gentler touch and hitting on the edge of the dimple to stop the slapping sound. The slapping sound is now gone on the higher notes, but the two lowest notes i still need to work on.
@@steveg601 will resonate more with a lighter touch - funger taps - and you sound good- i can hear the different tunes with each hit
I ordered a pan from Dave earlier this year. He tells me he's getting to it soon. Thanks for your input :)
Great! You will love the pan.
i think some lessons are in order lol. Joking aside...just curious, why did you give up on the Rav Vast so soon? It would have been a great teaching tool before spending all that money on an expensive handpan.
Hi Josh, I love the Rav Vast and did not give up on it. I enjoy playing both the RAV Vast and the handpan. They are each great instruments.
I enjoyed your whole video sharing your journey getting a handpan … your playing technique is quite nice and you must have drumming experience before from your other instruments…
I think you made a nice choice with Makai instruments 👍… I agree with you that there should be an engraving of the maker, model tuning description, manufacturing month/year, and serial #..etc…not sure why they didn’t do that .. hmm..
Thanks for sharing :) .. keep up your good work 💪💪💪
Steven, I sincerely enjoyed your unboxing video! You did a wonderful job of explaining your thorough research - which was a thoughtful journey covering the various costs that a handpan musician should consider. I want to give you props for your handpan stand (pun intended), what a creative adjustable structure! I agree with your wish that handpan builders would add a logo or engraving, not all of them do. The one thing I would add to your video would be the suggestion of considering what scale (notes) you wish to have. As you are gathering research while viewing all of the handpan videos, start taking note of which scales are resonating with you.
Well, I lied, a second suggestion would be that some handpan builders now also are able to build handpans with different types of metals, nitrated vs. stainless, which produce different sustain times and note blooms, which adds to the things one should consider.
Regarding your handpan practicing, you might consider checking out "Master the Handpan" www.masterthehandpan.com/. David Kuckhermann and Peter Levitov are also wonder teachers.
Regarding Makai Handpans, did you know that David Galleher hosted the first 10 episodes of The Handpan Podcast? Here they are:
www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-handpan-podcast-the-handpan-podcast-6YhfU1o8OZu/
If you enjoyed those then check out the current Handpan Podcast: www.sylvainpasliermusic.com/the-handpan-podcast/categories/the-handpan-podcast
My last suggestion would be for you to attend a handpan gathering as you'll get the chance to touch and play dozens of other handpans, which is the best as you will get side-by-side comparisons, as well as, meeting members of the handpan community, which will unbox a whole new world for you!
All the best!
Jared
Thanks Jared for all the information in your comments.
Jay of Nirvana Handpan does a good job of demonstrating raw steel hydroformed vs raw steel handsunk vs. nitrided, vs stainless in this video, th-cam.com/video/hikBYUBUKkM/w-d-xo.html
Wolfgang Ohmer gives one of the best introductions to scales that I have come across. It was a big help to me in ending my initial confusion. Also, listening to hundreds of TH-cam videos of dozens of scales lead me towards C# Annaziska. I love this scale. Way down the road a while I might want to match it with an E major, but my budget needs to recover first. th-cam.com/video/MtZvu8MC9pc/w-d-xo.html
I had heard David Galleher had hosted the Handpan Podcast, but hadn’t searched for it yet. Thanks for the link.
I do not know which country you are in. Here in Connecticut USA, the closest gathering is HangOUT in Asheville, NC. However, their website and Facebook have not been updated since 2018 and no one responds to the email or newsletter subscribers list, so I am wondering if it is not going to take place any more. hangout-usa.com and facebook.com/pg/HangOutUSA/posts/?ref=page_internal
Do you know anything about this for 2019 or of any other handpan gatherings on the east coast of the USA?
@@steveg601 Thanks for those links!
I live in Seattle, Washington.
Glad to hear you got a scale that speaks to you.
Saraz Handpans has a great list of handpan gatherings (and great handpans).
www.sarazhandpans.com/hang-handpan-and-pantam-festivals-gatherings-and-events/
I believe HOUSA is post-poned until next year. I've gone to Pantasia twice and loved it (Joshua Tree, CA). You might consider the Reminiscence gathering in NC or if you can make your way to Colorado for the Steel Mountain gathering, or Panada in Quebec. My goal is to someday attend gatherings around the globe! It's worth following the different gatherings on Facebook, that way you get the updates regarding each gathering.
One more shout-out for the Makai builder, David Galleher, at many of the gatherings, we know and love him as Chef D, amazing food and a great guy!
That is a great link for gatherings. Thanks Jared. And thanks for you feedback on Makai. Responses from many people in Facebook Handpan groups have been very positive about Makai builder, David Galleher. His handpans seem to be loved by all and I am very pleased and feel blessed to have this Makai handpan. It has a wonderful sound.
The pan has great sound. You did good for sound and price. I agree with Carol, it only requires a very light touch to get sound. So just lighten up on your touch. You'll get it quickly enough. Just keep playing it and you'll have it down with a light soft touch in no time.
Thanks Angela.
Thanks for posting! Hope all is well on your side!
The sound is great
I know I'm late to the party but I just now saw your video actually, watched a couple of them. That drum you played called RAV vast2 sounded a thousand times better than this one. I'm curious as to what the Rav cost you. If I'm looking at the correct thing on Google search it looks like they cost about $600 and up. Nice video though.
You got a gorgeous handpan & kitty gets a double modular bed AND a box!😍😍😍
Don't know if you have figured this out already or not, but if your vast has the sandy feeling coating, you don't have to use any oils on it at all unless you are going to store it for more than a couple months without getting it out (in which case I believe they recommend vaseline). Their new coating needs no cleaning :)
Of course, I recommend getting in touch with rav themselves through their chat on the site to confirm that, but that is what I was told when I got mine :)
Hi Wandering Heart, thanks for the information. Mine has a smooth feel to it, not sandy, so mine must be an older coating that does need oil.
Why that resonancel?
Anyways thanx for It , i am thinking to but one and its interessant these kind of vids.
Hi Aker, I listened to dozens of different keys and personally liked the C# Annaziska best. Listen to various keys on TH-cam and see which one sounds best for you. There is no right or wrong, just what you like.
Thanks Steven, a very nice review, and especially good for the beginner. Thank you and enjoy!
Thanks Gee.
I think its a good choice. Ive been playing for a year or so btw. hope you enjoy it👍👍
Thanks, you too.
Every handpan need to be tuned each 2 years?!
I have read of some handpans not needing tuning for 5 years, while others need to be tuned every few months. It depends on how well the handpan was constructed. The average is every 2 years.
Very nicely done; thanks for sharing your experience. I think your choice was excellent, and you got a very nice pan. In time, you'll learn to reduce the slapping-sounds, at least a little. I think your video is very helpful for newcomers who want to buy a good pan but are in the same position as you: no previous experience. Thanks!
Thanks Carol. Glad to hear you like this maker's pan. On one of the Facebook Handpan groups, Ray Ford said, "A bit of advice - go slower. Try to hit on the edge of the dimple to lessen the slappy sound. Focus on getting the best, clean sound first. Then cruise into your patterns." Well, I tried that and it was miraculous. Hitting the edge of the dimple totally stopped the slappy sound. I am thrilled.
i want one so bad
Trade ya my guitar