j'adore Rene Pape... un des grands chanteurs du xxi°...... son Wotan est émouvant.... mais pas enthousiasmant.... ce rôle a été écrit par Wagner pour une voix impossible......... mi baryton-mi basse...... des graves profonds et des aiguës triomphants.... aujourd'hui peu de chanteurs peuvent affronter cette tessiture..... bravo quand même à mr Pape qui s'en tire plutôt bien !!!
4:10 and on: I always burst literally into tears at this passage, when the motive (I think it is Brünnhildes Liebesmotiv, the most beautiful motiv in the whole Ring) increases, because it's so incredibly beautiful. Just divine - music from other spheres
WOW!!!!!!!! At last we get to hear him as the "Walkure" Wotan!!! Perfect for him,, not since Hotter or London! (Yes I love James Morris's Wotan),,, wonderful conducting!!! I'm thrilled to hear and see this!!!!!!
@serRudyll : this is the "Entsagungs-Motiv" (renounciation to love). It is first heard in Rheingold when Alberich renounces to love in order to obtain the gold. One of the most beautiful motives of the Ring, indeed...
@84Ulysse Thanks! It'll be a while before I've unraveled the whole web of ideas and motives that is the Ring, and I'm glad it is that way. Still so much to discover...
IMO René Pape is what Wagner expected for Wotan: a "hoher Baß ", with easy bottom and top notes (and, of course, strong medium sounds). But he is, nevertheless, a true bass, not a "Heldenbariton"!
@serRudyll I find very interesting how he uses the Entagung letimotiv here. Wotan is forced to renounce his daughter if he is to preserve the existing order of the gods. By using the same love-renouncement leitmotiv introduced by Alberich, the music mirrors how this renouncement is not that different to Alberich's renouncement of love in order to gain riches. In both cases they have a choice and choose to renounce love (which is not done lightly, hence the tragic feel of the leitmotiv).
Do you know why it is sung at the end of the first act of Die Walküre by Siegmund? The "heiligster minne höchste not" part. I don't see the link to renunciation of love.
Siegfried Furtwängler Knappertsbusch Siegmund sings this leitmotiv because, I think, it is the opposite of what Alberich does when he steals the Rheingold. Siegmund does not give up love, on the contrary, but takes the sword out of the tree. It's problematic because Wotan wants a free hero, who acts of his own free will. And Siegmund is not. Hence this tragic theme when he takes the sword... I don't know if I make any sense here... 😆
j'adore Rene Pape... un des grands chanteurs du xxi°...... son Wotan est émouvant.... mais pas enthousiasmant.... ce rôle a été écrit par Wagner pour une voix impossible......... mi baryton-mi basse...... des graves profonds et des aiguës triomphants.... aujourd'hui peu de chanteurs peuvent affronter cette tessiture..... bravo quand même à mr Pape qui s'en tire plutôt bien !!!
Thanks for sharing, wonderful Rene..
Magnifique,je ne m'en lasserai jamais!!!
Far better than the clip I’ve just watched of him singing this under Gatti - conductor sounds as if he actually cares about the music
Magnifique Wotan !!Sans doute une des plus magnifiques scènes de Wagner , et de tous les opéras !!!!
wow, great singing, deep intensity, sheer vocal beauty, careful phrasing, excellent interpretation. I simply love that.
4:10 and on: I always burst literally into tears at this passage, when the motive (I think it is Brünnhildes Liebesmotiv, the most beautiful motiv in the whole Ring) increases, because it's so incredibly beautiful. Just divine - music from other spheres
Wotan's farewell to Brunhilde - this music gives you goosebumps
WOW!!!!!!!! At last we get to hear him as the "Walkure" Wotan!!! Perfect for him,, not since Hotter or London! (Yes I love James Morris's Wotan),,, wonderful conducting!!! I'm thrilled to hear and see this!!!!!!
One of the saddest, most beautiful, touching, and deeply moving passages of all romantic classical music, brutally chopped off at the end.
Sehr gut, bravo
Sehr gut, Meister !
Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'd give anything to hear pape sing wotan over terfel
great
ich bin kein Freund von Pape, aber das ist great!
@serRudyll : this is the "Entsagungs-Motiv" (renounciation to love). It is first heard in Rheingold when Alberich renounces to love in order to obtain the gold. One of the most beautiful motives of the Ring, indeed...
@84Ulysse Thanks! It'll be a while before I've unraveled the whole web of ideas and motives that is the Ring, and I'm glad it is that way. Still so much to discover...
IMO René Pape is what Wagner expected for Wotan: a "hoher Baß ", with easy bottom and top notes (and, of course, strong medium sounds). But he is, nevertheless, a true bass, not a "Heldenbariton"!
@mboschm That's the Siegfried-motif, followed by Wälsungenliebe-motif.
@serRudyll I find very interesting how he uses the Entagung letimotiv here. Wotan is forced to renounce his daughter if he is to preserve the existing order of the gods. By using the same love-renouncement leitmotiv introduced by Alberich, the music mirrors how this renouncement is not that different to Alberich's renouncement of love in order to gain riches. In both cases they have a choice and choose to renounce love (which is not done lightly, hence the tragic feel of the leitmotiv).
What is the oboe motiv at 8:30 called (or what does it represent)? It's one of the most beautiful leitmotivs in the ring.
Do you know why it is sung at the end of the first act of Die Walküre by Siegmund? The "heiligster minne höchste not" part. I don't see the link to renunciation of love.
Siegfried Furtwängler Knappertsbusch Siegmund sings this leitmotiv because, I think, it is the opposite of what Alberich does when he steals the Rheingold. Siegmund does not give up love, on the contrary, but takes the sword out of the tree. It's problematic because Wotan wants a free hero, who acts of his own free will. And Siegmund is not. Hence this tragic theme when he takes the sword... I don't know if I make any sense here... 😆
Please, who is the conductor?
Alan Gilbert, Music Director of the New York Philharmonic.
+Javier Martín Many thanks!!! :)
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Put away the damn music and memorize the words. Looks like a rehearsal instead of a performance.
But it does not sound like a rehearsal.