Hi, I have a doubt for anyone with the knowledge to answer it. In case of thinking of a Commercial small coffee module to serve coffee to transit customers; may this machine could still be suitable ? Like semi industrial use ? Thanks
my Husband ordered a Miele 6350 as a christmas gift. however it appears that model may be discontinued/ upgraded with the Miele 6360. However, I’m very intrigued by the Philips 5400. In your opinion which is better the better option ( i’ve watched your Philips 5400 videos also, and you like it also ) I’m torn.. which do you prefer between the two, and why? Update: The verdict- I received my Miele 6350 and love it! I was concerned, that I wasn’t getting the newer model (6360) - but now I know I really don’t need the wifi, and the other minor updates. After set-up which is not hard at all, I’ve produced some awesome drinks!!! They are hot and tasty, and you can adjust them for your taste and preference 🙌🏻
Just went through this myself…ended up going with the miele 6360. Taste subjective..i thought both were decent to very good..just liked the build of the 6360, also being near seattle..i can get it fixed easier if needed..Things i dont like messy cleanup with sputtering water (not too bad), water\bean lack of sensor to determine if there is enough to start the drink, learning curve is a little bit harder with their buttons (ok button and then select check mark to select ok). App was a little hard to setup for iphone(using wps )..kept in disconnecting…but finally started working.things i liked foam, wow..it definitely was great. Temperature of foam was decent (semi is warmer). Heating top was a plus for cups, ease of cleaning, consistency of grind was good, ..i domt think either one you could go wrong, but we are sold on the miele
I hope you tell us after taking Miele home with you which one you prefer this or the Jura? and why? I have a Jura for almost 6 years now and my only complaint is that the milk is too cold, and not as foamy rich as it used to be when it was new, but other than that it was the only one that lasts more than 2 years and still going.
We prefer the Jura honestly..but we don't drink milk based drinks, mostly coffee. Miele has a new one coming out this fall...actually a webinar today about it. I think milk temp is always an issue with Superautomatics to be honest.
@@ecscoffeeinc which has the hotter and more flavorful coffee, Jura or Miele. Also, you mentioned the better build quality of Miele vs others…better than your Jura?
I had a Miele 5310 for about 8 years! The coffee that this machine makes is wonderful!! Last week the brew unit failed … we looked to replace it and couldn’t find it anywhere! For as great as this machine is, I have to say customer service is totally inadequate!! After many back and forth calls we decided that the cost of repair is not worth it and went ahead and ordered last model! I am looking forward to getting this new “Heaven maker” machine …
I have a CM5200. Miele has a flat rate for repair. 300.00. My brew unit failed. Called Miele and they set up a ticket. CoreSource is the repair place. They sent a special box…. You drain and wap the machine and put in the box - label included. They fix “ everything”. I had a failed motor and they also replaced the ground coffee door flap. Then shipped back. Have had this machine since 2012. Only 1 repair. Parts are easy to get as needed. Notsure why you had bad service but their one price repair is worth it. Includes all the shipping and warranty on the repair
@@sjorlando7282 thank you for your advise ! I will follow it! Although we got the newest Miele abs see very happy with its performance abs features , I think it’s worth it to fix the old one and give it away to friends!
Hi, I enjoy Starbucks grande latte a lot due to that size and taste. Ans I don't drink/haven't tried expresso at all. Now I'd like to have a Miele coffee machine to make coffee equal or superior to what Starbucks has to offer. Any recommendation? Thanks.
Hi Agnes, your Starbucks Grande Latte has espresso in it so you actually have tried it everytime you order! Miele or Jura would be the best bet for an easy way to make something similar. Some people feel that Superautomatics like Miele do not make the coffee or milk hot enough. So if that is a concern you want to go manual (which takes some work) so have a look at the Breville Oracle as a nice Hybrid. But for me, Miele is great.
Does it work for any kind of coffee beans ? I realize the one we use ( Starbucks French roast) is very oily, I saw another video says you shouldn’t put oily beans in some machines?
Can you tell us a bit more? I'm interested since I'm hesitating between those 2 brands. What differs between both of them? Build quality? Taste...? settings? Thks and greetings from France.
Hello bertrandis, I can’t compare to a new updated Saeco but I can make a good espresso with a nice crema and my wife and son loves the cappuccino. It’s very good and it’s so simple to make. The build quality is very good. Ceaning the machine is super simple and you will be cleaning this machine quite often because it prompts you to do it after making a few drinks. I think you will be impressed and I would go for it because you can’t beat it for the money. Note: I leave my machine on all day because It’s winter in NY and It helps maintain the machine hot for the drinks. I also pre heat my cups as well. I hope this helps!
@@ecscoffeeinc It would be very interesting if you did a video on how you're dialing in coffee with super automatic (if you dial in different beans) for semi-autos golden brew time is around 25-30 sec., does super automatic have some guide numbers aswell?
I've seen that in one of the reviews the person used cheep coffee and brewed it a bunch of times to get that taste out. They said about 30 brews or so did it for them.
@@ecscoffeeinc thank you for the answer! I did everything according to the manual. Even descaled and degreased it with original Miele tablets. Still not working. 😔
@@qazqwertyqaz9551 Did you take the front cover off (chrome part) where the coffee comes out (it is magnetic) then you can get access to the nozzles (they pop out) and clean them
Anyone know how to enter programming mode? miele 6150 stuck in descale cycle AND demo mode... need to kill descale, can be done in programming according to miele but they won't give me the secret button combo over the phone, they want $300 and send it to Chicago...
Hello, what machine you think is better? And importantly what expresso taste better? This Miele CM 6350 or Saeco Xelsis (SM7685)? Can not decide which one I should take. Thanks a lot
Didnt tried miele but i m in love with Xelsis, i have 7683 model, i like the customization features, very easy and fast to adjust accordingly to different beans, you can select exact ml of water, milk before each drink and it can make 2 milk based beverages at once, really useful when guests come over and all want capuccino or latte
Neil, Thank you for a GREAT presentation. I just purchased a Miele 6350. I used to have a top of the line DeLonghi super automatic. Please tell me if Starbuck French Roast is an Oily Coffee bean. I am only asking because it seems many super automatic companies suggest not using an Oily bean. Please make a suggestion of your favorite coffee and how I can purchase it from you. Thank you.
Yes Starbucks and most other French Roasts are Oily. Do NOT use. Try anything Italian....Trucillo and Lavazza...or better yet try our IXXI 88MPH roaster in house in Burlington Ontario.
Starsucks french roast is terrible coffee why would you have an expensive machine and want to use cheap over roasted beans from a place like Starsucks?
Great review. Can you let me know how it does an Americano? Does it ask to go under the hot water spout? Does it just go through the puck and extract like a long lungo?
I’ve got one and it’s broke 3 times. I sent back to Miele to repair twice and it’s just broken again. (Around 2 years old)...It is good when it works. It is bossy though, for example it won’t let you make coffee when it’s says descale/degrease the unit you have to run the full cycle before able to make coffee. For some reason mine would say clean milk pipe work a lot despite it being cleaned. Changing to a different brand, Miele unfortunately had poor customer service for this machine in the uk.
I agree with you! Machine is bossy, but makes good coffee. I would not buy this machine again due to poor customer service and honestly, parts are too pricey if something breaks. $2000+ and lots of plastic.
@Willp are you happy with the milk temperature that produces? Mine is pretty hot when is set to make coffee drinks. But when I use the ‘hot milk’ option, for when I want to make hoy chocolate, it comes at about 130* - warm. Yours?
Glogluxx I’ve only really used it for latte/cappuccinos and i did notice if you make the two drinks the second is hotter. There is a drink temperature setting in the menu ...
@Glogluxx Got my eye on the Siemens EQ9 as the next purchase. Hopefully it will be better...I had a Jura A1 before, it was very reliable but the coffee did not taste great.
Quality from Holland.
Hi, I have a doubt for anyone with the knowledge to answer it. In case of thinking of a Commercial small coffee module to serve coffee to transit customers; may this machine could still be suitable ? Like semi industrial use ? Thanks
Not designed for that type of use. Look at the Jura X8
my Husband ordered a Miele 6350 as a christmas gift. however it appears that model may be discontinued/ upgraded with the Miele 6360. However, I’m very intrigued by the Philips 5400. In your opinion which is better the better option ( i’ve watched your Philips 5400 videos also, and you like it also ) I’m torn.. which do you prefer between the two, and why?
Update: The verdict- I received my Miele 6350 and love it! I was concerned, that I wasn’t getting the newer model (6360) - but now I know I really don’t need the wifi, and the other minor updates. After set-up which is not hard at all, I’ve produced some awesome drinks!!! They are hot and tasty, and you can adjust them for your taste and preference 🙌🏻
Just went through this myself…ended up going with the miele 6360. Taste subjective..i thought both were decent to very good..just liked the build of the 6360, also being near seattle..i can get it fixed easier if needed..Things i dont like messy cleanup with sputtering water (not too bad), water\bean lack of sensor to determine if there is enough to start the drink, learning curve is a little bit harder with their buttons (ok button and then select check mark to select ok). App was a little hard to setup for iphone(using wps )..kept in disconnecting…but finally started working.things i liked foam, wow..it definitely was great. Temperature of foam was decent (semi is warmer). Heating top was a plus for cups, ease of cleaning, consistency of grind was good, ..i domt think either one you could go wrong, but we are sold on the miele
Nice Seamaster.
I hope you tell us after taking Miele home with you which one you prefer this or the Jura? and why?
I have a Jura for almost 6 years now and my only complaint is that the milk is too cold, and not as foamy rich as it used to be when it was new, but other than that it was the only one that lasts more than 2 years and still going.
We prefer the Jura honestly..but we don't drink milk based drinks, mostly coffee. Miele has a new one coming out this fall...actually a webinar today about it. I think milk temp is always an issue with Superautomatics to be honest.
@@ecscoffeeinc Thank you so much for taking the time to reply.. I really appreciate it.. Wish you all the best.
@@ecscoffeeinc could you kindly tell us when and the model no ? Is it worth the wait in your opinion?
@@saggarwal4213 CM 7750 CoffeeSelect and since I have not actually used one yet, tough to say. It is a lot more money though
@@ecscoffeeinc which has the hotter and more flavorful coffee, Jura or Miele. Also, you mentioned the better build quality of Miele vs others…better than your Jura?
I had a Miele 5310 for about 8 years! The coffee that this machine makes is wonderful!! Last week the brew unit failed … we looked to replace it and couldn’t find it anywhere! For as great as this machine is, I have to say customer service is totally inadequate!! After many back and forth calls we decided that the cost of repair is not worth it and went ahead and ordered last model! I am looking forward to getting this new
“Heaven maker” machine …
I have a CM5200. Miele has a flat rate for repair. 300.00. My brew unit failed. Called Miele and they set up a ticket. CoreSource is the repair place. They sent a special box…. You drain and wap the machine and put in the box - label included. They fix “ everything”. I had a failed motor and they also replaced the ground coffee door flap. Then shipped back. Have had this machine since 2012. Only 1 repair. Parts are easy to get as needed. Notsure why you had bad service but their one price repair is worth it. Includes all the shipping and warranty on the repair
@@sjorlando7282 thank you for your advise ! I will follow it! Although we got the newest Miele abs see very happy with its performance abs features , I think it’s worth it to fix the old one and give it away to friends!
Just bought Miele 6350 but espresso comes out with very sour taste regardless coffee beans I tried. It is annoying. What am I doing wrong?
Could be your water...also clean out the brew group. Other than that, adjust the grind setting.
Can you program other drinks, like flat white?
No but check out the 6360 new model...video coming soon. So subscribe!
Hi, i am going to buy Miele 6530, but I am not sure which kind of grinder is use in Mielle 6530 ?
ceramic or steal ? Could someone help me ?
Ceramic Conical Burr grinder :)
What’s the price of this machine?
Depends on country
Hi, I enjoy Starbucks grande latte a lot due to that size and taste. Ans I don't drink/haven't tried expresso at all. Now I'd like to have a Miele coffee machine to make coffee equal or superior to what Starbucks has to offer. Any recommendation? Thanks.
Hi Agnes, your Starbucks Grande Latte has espresso in it so you actually have tried it everytime you order! Miele or Jura would be the best bet for an easy way to make something similar. Some people feel that Superautomatics like Miele do not make the coffee or milk hot enough. So if that is a concern you want to go manual (which takes some work) so have a look at the Breville Oracle as a nice Hybrid. But for me, Miele is great.
@@ecscoffeeinc Thanks a lot. I'll try a Miele soon. :)
Is the Starbucks Verona coffee too oily for the Miele 6350? Thanks for your help!
Yes it would be. Basically if the bean has a shine on it (vs a matte look), it is too oily
Does it work for any kind of coffee beans ? I realize the one we use ( Starbucks French roast) is very oily, I saw another video says you shouldn’t put oily beans in some machines?
Never use oily beans in machines that grind coffee. The oils will cause a lot of problems with grinders.
@@ecscoffeeinc how do you know if the beans are oily? Anything that’s infused with flavours?
@@xt6746 never use flavoured coffee...as for oily beans they will appear wet when you look at them
I just purchased the CM5300 and I know it’s entry level but I love this machine. I replaced my 13 1/2 Saeco Primea Touch Plus. What a difference..
Thanks for sharing!
Can you tell us a bit more? I'm interested since I'm hesitating between those 2 brands. What differs between both of them? Build quality? Taste...? settings? Thks and greetings from France.
Hello bertrandis, I can’t compare to a new updated Saeco but I can make a good espresso with a nice crema and my wife and son loves the cappuccino. It’s very good and it’s so simple to make. The build quality is very good. Ceaning the machine is super simple and you will be cleaning this machine quite often because it prompts you to do it after making a few drinks. I think you will be impressed and I would go for it because you can’t beat it for the money.
Note: I leave my machine on all day because It’s winter in NY and It helps maintain the machine hot for the drinks. I also pre heat my cups as well. I hope this helps!
@@tsgt2007 Thank you for your answer. Yes it does help.
Best of luck!
Milk cleaning looks similiar to Saeco Xelsis, really love that feature.
It is a very nice feature to have. Personally we prefer the Miele to the Xelsis.
@@ecscoffeeinc It would be very interesting if you did a video on how you're dialing in coffee with super automatic (if you dial in different beans) for semi-autos golden brew time is around 25-30 sec., does super automatic have some guide numbers aswell?
@@ecscoffeeinc why? These are two machines i am considering, any chance you can do a head to head?
I just bought this machine and my coffee taste like plastic :/ , there’s any advice can you give me to remove the plastic after taste
I've seen that in one of the reviews the person used cheep coffee and brewed it a bunch of times to get that taste out. They said about 30 brews or so did it for them.
Hi,
My Miele espresso machine has a water container with a black filter in it that always smells of chemicals. Did any of you experience that?
We have not. It sounds like a new filter is required though. Does the water taste funny?
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The water does not taste funny but smells of chemicals
I have the machine and it doesn't Frith there milk, any idea how to fix it?
Hi Qaz,
I would first double check that the pipework in the milk container is properly installed and cleaned.
@@ecscoffeeinc thank you for the answer! I did everything according to the manual. Even descaled and degreased it with original Miele tablets. Still not working. 😔
@@qazqwertyqaz9551 Did you take the front cover off (chrome part) where the coffee comes out (it is magnetic) then you can get access to the nozzles (they pop out) and clean them
@@ecscoffeeinc yes I did, I also cleaned the pipes with the brush. Nothing seems to fix it. Only boring milk comes out. :(
Sir isn't the 7 series the top of the range to the 6350? Thank you kindly Melbourne Australia
It has not launched yet in Canada and will in the fall....you are correct it will be the top line once launched. That may vary by country though
I'm interested to buy this machine and I'm in india. Could you pls tell me how can I buy this ?
great review! I find that using the pre-grind (1 scoop) it doesn't out with good coffee taste. Too light tasting
Hi Danny, I would suggest trying a different grind for your coffee. It may not be fine enough.
Just out of curiosity: When will miele sell the newest line in Canada and the US? They sell the cm6x60-line here in Germany for months.
No news on these models as of Feb 2021
Anyone know how to enter programming mode? miele 6150 stuck in descale cycle AND demo mode... need to kill descale, can be done in programming according to miele but they won't give me the secret button combo over the phone, they want $300 and send it to Chicago...
Have you tried a factory reset in the settings?
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Hello, what machine you think is better? And importantly what expresso taste better? This Miele CM 6350 or Saeco Xelsis (SM7685)? Can not decide which one I should take. Thanks a lot
We like the Miele better. Issues with the Milk on the Saeco Xelsis.
@@ecscoffeeinc what are the milk issues with Saeco Xelsis?
Didnt tried miele but i m in love with Xelsis, i have 7683 model, i like the customization features, very easy and fast to adjust accordingly to different beans, you can select exact ml of water, milk before each drink and it can make 2 milk based beverages at once, really useful when guests come over and all want capuccino or latte
Neil, Thank you for a GREAT presentation. I just purchased a Miele 6350. I used to have a top of the line DeLonghi super automatic. Please tell me if Starbuck French Roast is an Oily Coffee bean. I am only asking because it seems many super automatic companies suggest not using an Oily bean. Please make a suggestion of your favorite coffee and how I can purchase it from you. Thank you.
Yes Starbucks and most other French Roasts are Oily. Do NOT use. Try anything Italian....Trucillo and Lavazza...or better yet try our IXXI 88MPH roaster in house in Burlington Ontario.
Yeah let's stick a whole bunch of coffee beans in it so they can get stale
Starsucks french roast is terrible coffee why would you have an expensive machine and want to use cheap over roasted beans from a place like Starsucks?
@@Stevesbe I never said that I would put the Starbucks French roast in and not use it. I just wanted to evaluate if those beans were oily.
@@ecscoffeeinc Thank you for your quick reply.
too cheap for proffesional,too expensive for usual user
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Great review. Can you let me know how it does an Americano? Does it ask to go under the hot water spout? Does it just go through the puck and extract like a long lungo?
Will this make a cafe mocha?
No it will not. Having said that, you could if you pre-made the cocoa
I’ve got one and it’s broke 3 times. I sent back to Miele to repair twice and it’s just broken again. (Around 2 years old)...It is good when it works. It is bossy though, for example it won’t let you make coffee when it’s says descale/degrease the unit you have to run the full cycle before able to make coffee. For some reason mine would say clean milk pipe work a lot despite it being cleaned. Changing to a different brand, Miele unfortunately had poor customer service for this machine in the uk.
I agree with you! Machine is bossy, but makes good coffee. I would not buy this machine again due to poor customer service and honestly, parts are too pricey if something breaks. $2000+ and lots of plastic.
@Willp are you happy with the milk temperature that produces? Mine is pretty hot when is set to make coffee drinks. But when I use the ‘hot milk’ option, for when I want to make hoy chocolate, it comes at about 130* - warm. Yours?
Glogluxx I’ve only really used it for latte/cappuccinos and i did notice if you make the two drinks the second is hotter. There is a drink temperature setting in the menu ...
@Glogluxx Got my eye on the Siemens EQ9 as the next purchase. Hopefully it will be better...I had a Jura A1 before, it was very reliable but the coffee did not taste great.
Willp there is a temp setting for coffee drinks. But not for hot milk ....