Do you see us ever going back to Outland? Also I'd like to thank GMG for making this video possible, get gaming glasses at 40% discount only until December 25th: go.gmg-performance.com/doronsmovies
I’ve always wanted to return to existing places in WoW. Seeing an Outland with all the changes would be amazing! I also always assumed there’d be more Outland refugees as they pour into Azeroth from a dying world. Where would they go, what would they do, and what challenges would they bring with them? Mostly the Arakkoa, Sporlings, Mok’nathal, and Sand Gnomes.
They should just say "Guys we are slowly going to update the world. Fix some lore problems while we are at it. We are going to contact people like Doron & Nobbel etc... to make sure the fixed lore is in line." Then Every x.x.5 (or x.x.7 who cares) patch there is a quest line with an updated location. This can be an entire zone or just a sub part. Add some catch up mechanic in those zones for the people that don't have tons of time and it has a function outside of just being updated for the looks of it. Or add something else, maybe a new faction or something where it takes some time to get exalted but once you hit it, you get a unique mount.
@@Tutserman420people cry about literally anything. Change is necessarily. Especially after decades. Classic also exists for those who can't process it
If we see revamps of any zones, I'd rather see them treated like BFA with Arathi and Darkshore instead of Cata. I'd rather see nothing than more Cata styled revamps, as those removed the old versions so that anyone who hadn't experienced them could no longer become as invested in these areas, thus making the new experience in the zone less impactful. Have a toggle, keep the old version for those who wish to go experience it, and then apply updated versions where it makes sense to, giving life back to the world itself, rather than just visiting a continent for an expansion and then leaving it behind, never to be involved again.
Outland is such a great setting overall, great lore, mystic and potential for future stories. I would love to see a single player RPG (Skyrim style) set in Outland years after "we" left. Could be that the portal had been cut off from azeroth because maybe it has been to unstable. You could explore the world in an singleplayer experience. Having an over arching story of trying to stabiliz Outland , while you explore you see the cultures that still lives there, meet broken, orcs, alliance and hord. You fight remnants of the few fel orcs, Naga and burning legions that still exist. Explore the demon Hunter lore and how Outland was ruled by illidan. There is so much potential in an singleplayer experience like these only set in Outland, maybe 15-20 years after TBC.
If Outland becomes relevant again, I’d like for that “falling apart” aspect to be focused on. It’s denizens could be divided between fleeing for Azeroth or stubbornly staying ‘till the end and it’s factions trying to slow or even completely stop the deterioration.
Imagine an entire full game revamp of zones we've already been to in a new expansion, just an adventure that spans Azeroth and the Outlands it would be sooo sick. I've wanted to play in an updated Broken Isles (specifically updated Suramar) for a few years now.
I only just realized Blizzard probably came out the idea of Dreanor instead of updating the classic Outland, because they don't wanted to get the hate they got after updating Azeroth in Cataclysm.
I don’t think that’s the case, since cata they’ve always done some updates with a time walking npc to go back to the old version. The issue with Cata wasn’t that zones were updated (people love that), it’s that you couldn’t go back to the old version
@@prestonrasmussen1758 I also think it was the extreme terrain changes that was hit/miss. Most people wanted the quests in the classic zones to just get updated to the same timeline as the current expansion. I think if Blizzard just updated some quests with new quest givers/mention the recent events from expansions. maybe throw some Vulperra in the Barrens, make the Dark Iron dwarf mobs non hostile (or at least explain these are rebel groups). Have some Horde/Aliiance settlements in Pandaria and get turn the World PVP objectives into PVE quests(since the war is over and everything). Swap out the mobs for quests/rename them. Call the Defias still in Westfall, the Defias Diehards and now it's mostly zone maintence while leveling, with the newest Expanson being where we reserve the world ending threats.
The outland quests are the oldest once you can do in retail at the moment. I went back for the Sabelion quests and it all felt so old, which is funny thinking back to how modern it felt when it csme out.
Outland (+Belf and Draenei starting zones.) Draenei isles dont need a major revamp due to lore, but Quel'thalas could really use a makeover. Its so dumb the Dead Scar still exists canonically, and undead still swarm in Deatholme. Despite like two decades of rebuilding and restoration of the Sunwell. (Ppl just had the belf quests there for the Blood Knight armor.)
I really like trying to imagine what some of the places we visited and cleaned from 'bad people' became. Specialy dungeons and raid like the Eternal palace, or The eye
Blizzard should just make an expansion where every expansion is updated to the current time. Imagine playing a game where you see 10 expansions worth of content.
Outland was always my favorite place. Because of it, I spent a lot of time in AU Draenor exploring the differences and similarities between the two. I really, really wish they would have allowed the red Fel Orc as a customization option for Orcs. I really loved their look. But Outland could be saved. Maybe. We have the blueprint of what Outland is supposed to look like in Draenor and enough Titan magic on Azeroth to "loan" some to Outland to maybe get it to slowly reset itself. Just thoughts that will never come to pass.
Hopefully Blizz knows that a dying planet is much more interesting than a dead planet and we never see Outland actually “die” during the life of the game.
I never got why the demons don't join the void... Chaotic gods that want to spread madness throughout the universe seems like a better cause for demons than a crazy titan that would most likely kill them all when he's done killing everything else.
I want to see a bigger Stormwind. I want Gilneas to be a city. I want Dalaran to return to the Eastern kingdoms. I want lorderon to return to normal. Come on Blizzard make it work
Lordaeron can return to normal, but its people are still the Forsaken and the Scarlets. I think canonically the Alliance took over Plaguelands in Bfa? Not sure... sadly that area is still ripe for conflict. Then again, the Alliance had so many refugees to Stormwind - mostly thanks to the Forsaken, that a new capital could be established for the living in W. Plaguelands. And I think there was info on Gilneas slowly returning to life, too. Which would mean the Forsaken are now stuck between 2 Alliance kingdoms, 3 if Dalaran were to return to its original place.
Fun fact: There are no Naaru left on Azeroth. All Naaru that we know of currently reside in outland. So if we ever return to Shattrath, don't be surprised to see Lightforged Aldor and golden-eyed Scryer.
What if in the light vs void expansion, one of the raids or the megadungeon is "Seige of Shattrath" with us having to kill Ad'al because Yrel corrupted them with too much evil light energies
You know, visiting areas that we've been to previously and seeing how they've changed since we did our heroics there is a great concept; Blizzard might want to consider it. Heck, they could do a whole expansion based around the concept in theory---imagine revamped zones where, every day during the expansion, there are random incursions of elementals/void beings/demons/etc that we have to push back, and you never know where the story will take you.
Great video! A (world) continent that remains of a large world we need to see again either in a book or even in game. I would love to visit Outland again in modern graphics! Lorewise I prefer it to merge with AU Draenor(which might be a timeline about to stop existing) and get some features of both realities ... like a natural look Draenor, where you move around a corner to find yourself in the Twisting Nether! Plus the different races! Speaking of, I really hope they bring back the Fel Orcs some day. I love their style and their history is rather tragic, as they stranded on the wrong side of the Portal and were fully enslaved by Demons. Imagine playing a red orc with spikes! ;-)
I like to think that in Zangarmarsh by helping bring the sporregar back from the brink and killing their natural predators they spread like a plague into an unstoppable fungi horde 😂
A major problem with WoW is that the expansion format eliminates old content. The problem with this is that non of the work compounds over time. Because of this, old zones and systems die out in 1 years time. A solution is to revamp everything that exist now, and make a new expansion model that lets Blizzard continue on the work they made. This way, old zones does not become ghost towns in 1 year, but instead can become a living breathing world that continues to grow.
I dont think anything is going to happen with outlands anytime soon, since for the longest time Blizzard has been only focusing on Expansions instead of World of Warcraft.
To be fair with you, I wish they just update the Fel Orc models. I want Blizzard to retain their horrid appearance, but using newer graphics. Also, the orcs customization in general should feature things like a pigish face, like that orc grunt from the old WarCraft III intro cinematics. Hell, give them pointy noses and additional tusks and body horns.
Maybe we will return to Outland, but it won't feel satisfying. Honestly it's possible they just make the new black dragon aspect's first act with the aspect powers to go to ourland and pull most of the planet back together and stabilize it somehow, maybe with the help of the elemental lords of Outland. And it's going to be wrathion because blizzard has no sense of storytelling. (He fucked everything up so far and never got punished, at most he got a punch in the face for causing WoD and Legion expansions to happen, leading to thousands of people dying). That'll be how he "proves" himself to the other black dragons who lived there for a while, despite that making no actual sense. Main reasons I'm thinking this'll happen is 1. Thrall lived in Nagrand and showed that even though it looks pristine it's still bad and falling apart and 2. Sabellian is from Outland as well and told us a bit about what's going on in Outland. If neither of these pan out into black dragons helping outland, this is a chekhov's gun that never gets used so it feels weird - but totally within blizzard's writing capabilities, of which to say there are very few.
Tinfoil hat here : we might get some new playable races from Outland and Alt Draenor in the future, and are probably setting the foundations for that. Blizz themselves said that they'll work on adding more races, plus 11.0 is going to be very big since it's : a) it's the 10th expansion and b) it releases on the 20th anniversary of WoW
@@snappycenter7863 I want my Furbolg! Or Gnoll! So many races I would prefer over Tuskarr. I never been in to them in WotLK now years later they are still kinda meh to me. I don't know why. I can understand people love them.
I hope we get to go there and learn more about it, we could easily get the excuse to go there through Sabellian, and learn all about what has been going on there through his flight
I know it would be an incredibly expensive endeavor for Blizzard to do and likely have little to no pay off but it would really neat to see maybe a half dozen developers spend a year just updating all the old zones to show what they look like "now" and allows players to explore them with some random quests to see what their actions have caused both good and bad.
It would be cool if we went back to outland in a future patch. It might only be nagrand and a few zone shards floating there. Id like to see what happened since TBC
Is it really considered a planet at this point though? I mean even in TBC was it considered one? Place is literally just rock chunks floating in the void of the Twisting Nether.
Well, Outland may not get our attention for anything since the time we left it behind. However, the alternative Timeline of Draenor is a zone we may be visiting in the new expansion. As the Army of the Light has become the new replacement threat from the Demons. As they will set their sights on the Invasion of Azeroth. With I'm sure Turalion to welcome them from the Dark Portal. And I'm sure the Void won't allow the Light to get a foothold in Azeroth as they tried to interfere with the Titans as well.
they should bring us back to outland as like a side story and update it while keeping the old zone in chromie time and let us playu trhough each zone doing tyical adveturer stuff and the finall part of the quest could be us doing an investigation from day in the first zone we go in that takes us through each zone ( like normal quetslines) that causes us to make ti so the demons who were plotting fail the plot at the last moment
Can you really call Outland a "planet" when it's just a single continent plus a group of islands floating around in the shallow end of the plane of Chaos?
I guess it would be interesting to go back to Outland, but that's basically what WoD was. That said, if Blizzard could create a compelling enough narrative to leave Azeroth, I wouldn't necessarily hate going there for the third time.
I could see us go back to Outland, despite it's state, during BC and WC3 it was shown there were heavy traffic to the place, both demonic and others such as the consortium and old gods, so the place definitely has some heavy potential, we simply don't know what rn (likely the same as the writers). And that's not saying anything about what some of the major players still active on the world are up to, like Teron Gorefiend and Tagar Spinebreaker.
@@svidentkyrponos7530 Teron's death quote literally states that the wheels of death has spun for him many times, implying he has a pattern for coming back to "unlife", and that the wheel is spinning again, so I've no doubts that he'll come back.
How can you claim Azeroth is elemental in nature, when elements are also native to Draneor? They even have elemental lords there too. there are also elementals in Argus. it's one part of the lore i really don't agree with you on. I think the dragons just absorb the powers they're around like dreadlords can. we've seen almost every type of dragon already haven't we? maybe besides holy? unless you count the aspect of dragon mount from the shop, it looks holy, but I have a feeling the Primalists are actually old god puppets.
Any chance you could do something on the netherwing? I always thought they were the coolest flight and they haven’t shown up since cata iirc. I’m just hoping they’re not extinct now.
I think there were some old BC comics where Nether and Black dragons worked together. Shadowmoon is also basically safe now, so I think theyre just fine. But they probably didnt want to come with Sabellian in DF recently. Just how the 5 dragonflights are protectors of Azeroth, Nether drakes likely consider themselves the same for Outland, whatever is left of it.
The Exploring Azeroth books are a major disapointment and have shown that the writers have no ideas and vision for parts of Azeroth, that are not part of the current expansion. Nothing worth mentioning happened in those books. They are completely uninspired. The stuff they came up with in those books, most passionate fans could come up with in a few minutes. I doubt they even have an idea for the current state of Outland at all.
I've gotten that feeling too. It feels like the writers for the Exploring Azeroth series are just basing what's happened on the Cataclysm era quests if they're not relevant to the current expansion.
I can sum this video up as: Doron explains in 50 different ways that outland is doomed "outland is dangerous hellish place and doomed. In the grand picture outland is, dying and hellish. Over all outland is doomed to die" x.x
Hellfire: more fel reavers probably, thrallmar and honor hold have slightly expanded and now send eachother supply agents in case one of the bases ran out of something Zangarmarsh: The dead part of the mushroom forest has started to regrow, the coilfang resevoir still full of naga Terrokar Forest: Lightforged Cultists are in Shattrath City trying to coerce the citizens into joining Yrel's Light army, the Arrakoa are still around Nagrand: Thrall is hanging out with his wife and kids, telling them the stories about him and his adventures in the Shadowlands. Blades Edge Mountains: random ogre stuff, the dead dragons that are pierced on the giant thorns are now skeletons Netherstorm: The arcane vortex machine things that Kael'Thases blood elves were using no longer operate. The ethereal eco-domes still operate and now house different kinds of animals and plants including some species from Ka'resh Shadowmoon Valley: Some of Illidans Demon Hunters still train at the Black Temple.
Do you see us ever going back to Outland? Also I'd like to thank GMG for making this video possible, get gaming glasses at 40% discount only until December 25th: go.gmg-performance.com/doronsmovies
I still remember stepping into Nagrand so many years ago; the sunlight, the floating islands. It was my favorite realm at the time.
That’s where people go to die ( stop playing )
@@jawg2392 oh wow never knew that. But come to think about it, that's probabbly where I would leave my main to "die" too if I ever stopped playing
I’ve always wanted to return to existing places in WoW. Seeing an Outland with all the changes would be amazing! I also always assumed there’d be more Outland refugees as they pour into Azeroth from a dying world. Where would they go, what would they do, and what challenges would they bring with them?
Mostly the Arakkoa, Sporlings, Mok’nathal, and Sand Gnomes.
Im 100 percent with you.
Oh yea, I love me some SAAAAND GNOOOOOMES!!!
sand gnomes?
Really been hoping that blizz will pull another cataclysm on us... just updating all existing zones into what it is today
Ppl, even today still hate on the cata revamp
I mean, i dislike the changes to gameplay since cata, but updating the zones themselves was nice...
They should just say "Guys we are slowly going to update the world. Fix some lore problems while we are at it. We are going to contact people like Doron & Nobbel etc... to make sure the fixed lore is in line."
Then Every x.x.5 (or x.x.7 who cares) patch there is a quest line with an updated location. This can be an entire zone or just a sub part. Add some catch up mechanic in those zones for the people that don't have tons of time and it has a function outside of just being updated for the looks of it. Or add something else, maybe a new faction or something where it takes some time to get exalted but once you hit it, you get a unique mount.
@@Tutserman420people cry about literally anything. Change is necessarily. Especially after decades. Classic also exists for those who can't process it
If we see revamps of any zones, I'd rather see them treated like BFA with Arathi and Darkshore instead of Cata. I'd rather see nothing than more Cata styled revamps, as those removed the old versions so that anyone who hadn't experienced them could no longer become as invested in these areas, thus making the new experience in the zone less impactful. Have a toggle, keep the old version for those who wish to go experience it, and then apply updated versions where it makes sense to, giving life back to the world itself, rather than just visiting a continent for an expansion and then leaving it behind, never to be involved again.
Outland is such a great setting overall, great lore, mystic and potential for future stories.
I would love to see a single player RPG (Skyrim style) set in Outland years after "we" left. Could be that the portal had been cut off from azeroth because maybe it has been to unstable. You could explore the world in an singleplayer experience. Having an over arching story of trying to stabiliz Outland , while you explore you see the cultures that still lives there, meet broken, orcs, alliance and hord. You fight remnants of the few fel orcs, Naga and burning legions that still exist. Explore the demon Hunter lore and how Outland was ruled by illidan.
There is so much potential in an singleplayer experience like these only set in Outland, maybe 15-20 years after TBC.
If Outland becomes relevant again, I’d like for that “falling apart” aspect to be focused on. It’s denizens could be divided between fleeing for Azeroth or stubbornly staying ‘till the end and it’s factions trying to slow or even completely stop the deterioration.
Imagine an entire full game revamp of zones we've already been to in a new expansion, just an adventure that spans Azeroth and the Outlands it would be sooo sick. I've wanted to play in an updated Broken Isles (specifically updated Suramar) for a few years now.
I think people should make more videos like this, discussing the old zones and what is happening there now.
I only just realized Blizzard probably came out the idea of Dreanor instead of updating the classic Outland, because they don't wanted to get the hate they got after updating Azeroth in Cataclysm.
I don’t think that’s the case, since cata they’ve always done some updates with a time walking npc to go back to the old version. The issue with Cata wasn’t that zones were updated (people love that), it’s that you couldn’t go back to the old version
@@prestonrasmussen1758 I also think it was the extreme terrain changes that was hit/miss. Most people wanted the quests in the classic zones to just get updated to the same timeline as the current expansion.
I think if Blizzard just updated some quests with new quest givers/mention the recent events from expansions. maybe throw some Vulperra in the Barrens, make the Dark Iron dwarf mobs non hostile (or at least explain these are rebel groups). Have some Horde/Aliiance settlements in Pandaria and get turn the World PVP objectives into PVE quests(since the war is over and everything).
Swap out the mobs for quests/rename them. Call the Defias still in Westfall, the Defias Diehards and now it's mostly zone maintence while leveling, with the newest Expanson being where we reserve the world ending threats.
The outland quests are the oldest once you can do in retail at the moment.
I went back for the Sabelion quests and it all felt so old, which is funny thinking back to how modern it felt when it csme out.
Outland (+Belf and Draenei starting zones.) Draenei isles dont need a major revamp due to lore, but Quel'thalas could really use a makeover. Its so dumb the Dead Scar still exists canonically, and undead still swarm in Deatholme. Despite like two decades of rebuilding and restoration of the Sunwell. (Ppl just had the belf quests there for the Blood Knight armor.)
@@Grivehn Yea holy fk Queal Thal Las should be a shining beacon at this point.
A Mag'har orc from alternate Draenor would visit Outland and ask him or herself...
"Who killed the world?"
I really like trying to imagine what some of the places we visited and cleaned from 'bad people' became. Specialy dungeons and raid like the Eternal palace, or The eye
Blizzard should just make an expansion where every expansion is updated to the current time. Imagine playing a game where you see 10 expansions worth of content.
Outland was always my favorite place. Because of it, I spent a lot of time in AU Draenor exploring the differences and similarities between the two. I really, really wish they would have allowed the red Fel Orc as a customization option for Orcs. I really loved their look.
But Outland could be saved. Maybe. We have the blueprint of what Outland is supposed to look like in Draenor and enough Titan magic on Azeroth to "loan" some to Outland to maybe get it to slowly reset itself. Just thoughts that will never come to pass.
Hopefully Blizz knows that a dying planet is much more interesting than a dead planet and we never see Outland actually “die” during the life of the game.
I made it an entire 22 seconds before I couldn’t handle the dude’s voice narrating the video. Good lord.
I never got why the demons don't join the void... Chaotic gods that want to spread madness throughout the universe seems like a better cause for demons than a crazy titan that would most likely kill them all when he's done killing everything else.
Do more videos with concepts of these ideas :)
You do really well with videos that are “news and new things” , but I love your speculation
I want to see a bigger Stormwind. I want Gilneas to be a city. I want Dalaran to return to the Eastern kingdoms. I want lorderon to return to normal. Come on Blizzard make it work
Lordaeron can return to normal, but its people are still the Forsaken and the Scarlets. I think canonically the Alliance took over Plaguelands in Bfa? Not sure... sadly that area is still ripe for conflict. Then again, the Alliance had so many refugees to Stormwind - mostly thanks to the Forsaken, that a new capital could be established for the living in W. Plaguelands. And I think there was info on Gilneas slowly returning to life, too. Which would mean the Forsaken are now stuck between 2 Alliance kingdoms, 3 if Dalaran were to return to its original place.
One of my favorite lore channels. Keep it up bro 👍
Fun fact:
There are no Naaru left on Azeroth. All Naaru that we know of currently reside in outland. So if we ever return to Shattrath, don't be surprised to see Lightforged Aldor and golden-eyed Scryer.
What if in the light vs void expansion, one of the raids or the megadungeon is "Seige of Shattrath" with us having to kill Ad'al because Yrel corrupted them with too much evil light energies
You know, visiting areas that we've been to previously and seeing how they've changed since we did our heroics there is a great concept; Blizzard might want to consider it. Heck, they could do a whole expansion based around the concept in theory---imagine revamped zones where, every day during the expansion, there are random incursions of elementals/void beings/demons/etc that we have to push back, and you never know where the story will take you.
my question after hearing someone talk for 11 minutes is, what does outland look like today? havent seen anything new.....
Great video! A (world) continent that remains of a large world we need to see again either in a book or even in game.
I would love to visit Outland again in modern graphics!
Lorewise I prefer it to merge with AU Draenor(which might be a timeline about to stop existing) and get some features of both realities ... like a natural look Draenor, where you move around a corner to find yourself in the Twisting Nether! Plus the different races!
Speaking of, I really hope they bring back the Fel Orcs some day. I love their style and their history is rather tragic, as they stranded on the wrong side of the Portal and were fully enslaved by Demons. Imagine playing a red orc with spikes! ;-)
I like to think that in Zangarmarsh by helping bring the sporregar back from the brink and killing their natural predators they spread like a plague into an unstoppable fungi horde 😂
i could see the shamans of the maghar and drenie who want to preserve their home working to keep it from crumbling further.
The grain may have fallen apart because it's harvest time rather than because it's sick or decaying.
I have no idea what you are saying but you speak with such conviction that I think I do
A major problem with WoW is that the expansion format eliminates old content. The problem with this is that non of the work compounds over time. Because of this, old zones and systems die out in 1 years time.
A solution is to revamp everything that exist now, and make a new expansion model that lets Blizzard continue on the work they made. This way, old zones does not become ghost towns in 1 year, but instead can become a living breathing world that continues to grow.
I dont think anything is going to happen with outlands anytime soon, since for the longest time Blizzard has been only focusing on Expansions instead of World of Warcraft.
If it wasn't in an MMO, Outland should have been destroyed long ago.
But transmogs and whatnot.
If they dud a cata style rehaul of Outlands we'd spawn into the portal and just fall into the void at this point lol. A pure flying only land
To be fair with you, I wish they just update the Fel Orc models. I want Blizzard to retain their horrid appearance, but using newer graphics.
Also, the orcs customization in general should feature things like a pigish face, like that orc grunt from the old WarCraft III intro cinematics. Hell, give them pointy noses and additional tusks and body horns.
Maybe we will return to Outland, but it won't feel satisfying. Honestly it's possible they just make the new black dragon aspect's first act with the aspect powers to go to ourland and pull most of the planet back together and stabilize it somehow, maybe with the help of the elemental lords of Outland. And it's going to be wrathion because blizzard has no sense of storytelling. (He fucked everything up so far and never got punished, at most he got a punch in the face for causing WoD and Legion expansions to happen, leading to thousands of people dying). That'll be how he "proves" himself to the other black dragons who lived there for a while, despite that making no actual sense. Main reasons I'm thinking this'll happen is 1. Thrall lived in Nagrand and showed that even though it looks pristine it's still bad and falling apart and 2. Sabellian is from Outland as well and told us a bit about what's going on in Outland. If neither of these pan out into black dragons helping outland, this is a chekhov's gun that never gets used so it feels weird - but totally within blizzard's writing capabilities, of which to say there are very few.
Tinfoil hat here : we might get some new playable races from Outland and Alt Draenor in the future, and are probably setting the foundations for that. Blizz themselves said that they'll work on adding more races, plus 11.0 is going to be very big since it's : a) it's the 10th expansion and b) it releases on the 20th anniversary of WoW
Where did you get this information? On that note, I think it'd be a great idea if the Tuskarr became playable during Dragonflight.
@@snappycenter7863 I want my Furbolg! Or Gnoll!
So many races I would prefer over Tuskarr. I never been in to them in WotLK now years later they are still kinda meh to me. I don't know why. I can understand people love them.
i am curious about the old draenei ships in the netherstorm zone, did the draenei ever reclaim them, do we know?
I hope we get to go there and learn more about it, we could easily get the excuse to go there through Sabellian, and learn all about what has been going on there through his flight
I know it would be an incredibly expensive endeavor for Blizzard to do and likely have little to no pay off but it would really neat to see maybe a half dozen developers spend a year just updating all the old zones to show what they look like "now" and allows players to explore them with some random quests to see what their actions have caused both good and bad.
Wait, how is outland a planet, you can literally fall off the edge.
Ever heard of the flat earth society?
@@felipesoberanski4724 Flat Dreanor society you mean?
But who said Dreanor is flat? It might be curved like it used to be when it was a planet.
My friend proposed the idea that yhe First Ones and most of Shadow Lands are more metaphor than actuality
It would be cool if we went back to outland in a future patch.
It might only be nagrand and a few zone shards floating there.
Id like to see what happened since TBC
nah i 100% can see the whole thing we did in netherstorm helping make whats left of the planet become alive again just small and broken
Is it really considered a planet at this point though? I mean even in TBC was it considered one? Place is literally just rock chunks floating in the void of the Twisting Nether.
Well, Outland may not get our attention for anything since the time we left it behind. However, the alternative Timeline of Draenor is a zone we may be visiting in the new expansion. As the Army of the Light has become the new replacement threat from the Demons. As they will set their sights on the Invasion of Azeroth. With I'm sure Turalion to welcome them from the Dark Portal. And I'm sure the Void won't allow the Light to get a foothold in Azeroth as they tried to interfere with the Titans as well.
i have always wander why should we just dont take the old zones, remake them, put a new threat and reuse all of this in a new expansion
omg he isnt talking at 100mph, its a fucking miracle
they should bring us back to outland as like a side story and update it while keeping the old zone in chromie time and let us playu trhough each zone doing tyical adveturer stuff and the finall part of the quest could be us doing an investigation from day in the first zone we go in that takes us through each zone ( like normal quetslines) that causes us to make ti so the demons who were plotting fail the plot at the last moment
Would love a fresh TBC server where GDKPs are banned
Pretty sure I single handedly genocided all life in Outlands years ago.
Odlican klip! :D Napravi nesto o Med'an-u! :D
So what happened with the alternate timeline with garrosh going back and changing things? What happened after and how was the timeline fixed?
Can you really call Outland a "planet" when it's just a single continent plus a group of islands floating around in the shallow end of the plane of Chaos?
I love Outland, it brought me to WoW.
I swear, you could be a model
Barrens pvp zone when
Terraform outland expansion plz
I guess it would be interesting to go back to Outland, but that's basically what WoD was. That said, if Blizzard could create a compelling enough narrative to leave Azeroth, I wouldn't necessarily hate going there for the third time.
I could see us go back to Outland, despite it's state, during BC and WC3 it was shown there were heavy traffic to the place, both demonic and others such as the consortium and old gods, so the place definitely has some heavy potential, we simply don't know what rn (likely the same as the writers).
And that's not saying anything about what some of the major players still active on the world are up to, like Teron Gorefiend and Tagar Spinebreaker.
Teron gorefiend was supposedly killed for good in the black temple
But who knows if he could trick yet another poor sod to return from death again
@@svidentkyrponos7530 Teron's death quote literally states that the wheels of death has spun for him many times, implying he has a pattern for coming back to "unlife", and that the wheel is spinning again, so I've no doubts that he'll come back.
How can you claim Azeroth is elemental in nature, when elements are also native to Draneor? They even have elemental lords there too. there are also elementals in Argus. it's one part of the lore i really don't agree with you on. I think the dragons just absorb the powers they're around like dreadlords can. we've seen almost every type of dragon already haven't we? maybe besides holy? unless you count the aspect of dragon mount from the shop, it looks holy, but I have a feeling the Primalists are actually old god puppets.
I wonder what happened to the Nether-Dragon's
Any chance you could do something on the netherwing? I always thought they were the coolest flight and they haven’t shown up since cata iirc. I’m just hoping they’re not extinct now.
I think there were some old BC comics where Nether and Black dragons worked together. Shadowmoon is also basically safe now, so I think theyre just fine. But they probably didnt want to come with Sabellian in DF recently. Just how the 5 dragonflights are protectors of Azeroth, Nether drakes likely consider themselves the same for Outland, whatever is left of it.
Can't they just release dreanor from the crystall and use it to restore outland?
Where it all started for me 💪🏿
Wish WoD wasn’t a thing and instead we got a Outland update
Nothing to do with the video, but man, you're swole. Nice job.
The Exploring Azeroth books are a major disapointment and have shown that the writers have no ideas and vision for parts of Azeroth, that are not part of the current expansion. Nothing worth mentioning happened in those books. They are completely uninspired.
The stuff they came up with in those books, most passionate fans could come up with in a few minutes.
I doubt they even have an idea for the current state of Outland at all.
I've gotten that feeling too. It feels like the writers for the Exploring Azeroth series are just basing what's happened on the Cataclysm era quests if they're not relevant to the current expansion.
Wow doron is handsome
I can sum this video up as: Doron explains in 50 different ways that outland is doomed "outland is dangerous hellish place and doomed. In the grand picture outland is, dying and hellish. Over all outland is doomed to die" x.x
Hellfire: more fel reavers probably, thrallmar and honor hold have slightly expanded and now send eachother supply agents in case one of the bases ran out of something
Zangarmarsh: The dead part of the mushroom forest has started to regrow, the coilfang resevoir still full of naga
Terrokar Forest: Lightforged Cultists are in Shattrath City trying to coerce the citizens into joining Yrel's Light army, the Arrakoa are still around
Nagrand: Thrall is hanging out with his wife and kids, telling them the stories about him and his adventures in the Shadowlands.
Blades Edge Mountains: random ogre stuff, the dead dragons that are pierced on the giant thorns are now skeletons
Netherstorm: The arcane vortex machine things that Kael'Thases blood elves were using no longer operate. The ethereal eco-domes still operate and now house different kinds of animals and plants including some species from Ka'resh
Shadowmoon Valley: Some of Illidans Demon Hunters still train at the Black Temple.
fel orc = epäörkki
clickbait. per usual
A lot of you saying the same thing 10 times in 10 different ways man.
Get to the point lol
You do realize in lore, Outland is gone right?
What outland looks like today.
.....its empty as fuck