Sorry mate, but the reason for them to block the A 23 is doesn't it still go under the south terminal mind you, it has been over 30 odd years since I was up there and love seeing you going through my old places stay safe, and keep producing good TH-cam
I thought I had it bad when a fire Alarm went off at Gatwick last may and there was no staff around. Felt really bad for all the passengers. Going to be Chaos for a few days at least.
So glad you popped up there when you did!! That gridlock will be very difficult for the additional emergency vehicles to access, and it will take hours to clear that tailback!! Lovely to have missed it!! Happy passenger willing to pay well for their ride...makes for a happy Tony!
"That gridlock will be very difficult for the additional emergency vehicles " Why would they need so many emergency vehicles of one "suspect" item in a passenger's baggage. Why didn't they shut the exit off the M23 if it was such an issue. The North terminal was fully open. Why should people with flights make their way there and people who arrived make their way out of the still open terminal. Why are the authorities so cagey about what the suspect item was?
As Jack Frost (TV cop) said "people are creatures of habit", so make any changes to the normal road route and most have no idea how to do it differently Complacency, along distraction, patience , and stupidity seem to be cause of most dash cam incidents world wide
Sorry to say, but quoting the Independent: "At 8.20am on Friday, staff at the South Terminal discovered a “suspected prohibited item” in a passenger’s cabin baggage. By 10.55am, police had ordered a security cordon and the evacuation of the building and adjacent railway station." So no, did not just happen lol
A bit puzzled by what a “suspected prohibited item" is. Since what is prohibited is specified why was it suspect. Then two and half hours later it goes to a full on bomb scare. But at the end of the day turns out is was nothing.
Incident started about 10:15 ISH when the south terminal was evacuated. A23 was shut because it passes directly under the south terminal hence they were sending the south bound traffic up to the M23.
OK just seen the bit where he went up to the M23. The A23 was closed so why is traffic to Brighton sign posted via the A23? I don't go to Gatwick often, except when I worked there but that was the hanger area, but the road layout does seem very confusing with the A23 going right through the middle of it.
@@kevinrayner5812 No, the road that was closed off runs thro Gatwick using the A23 and would bring you back onto the M23 Junction at Pease Pottage which is the last junction of the M23 before it turns back into the A23.
On the subject of using the correct lanes on a roundabout (at 10:45), have you finally realized the road markings on the Rose Hill Roundabout changed about 8 years ago?
Hi Tony... FFS. The first 15 minutes are usually free here in Ireland if you drop off or pick up in most carparks, but £6 quid is a piss-take. Great rant though...as usual 🤣🤣🤣
Last time I was there, the r/h lane machine wasnt working, and I couldnt back up as there were 5 cars behind me by then - they had to let me out for free.
I heard stories of people having to walk to Horely. I get they want people away from the terminal but why is the only walking route actually on the busy dual carriageway.
So the incident, something found in baggage, happened at 0820 and the cordon wasn't in place until 1100 ish hours. You're driving round at 1200-1230 and police are still setting up road blocks, that's getting on for 4 hours after the suspicious item was reported according to the newspapers. Surely they practice scenarios like this and have a response time and targets they have to hit but if they're blocking roads to the S terminal 4 hours after the initial report of a suspect bomb they missed!!
Just watched the Only Fools and Horses episode the Sky's the Limit where Delboy has accidentally bought a stolen radar dish that was nicked from Gatwick Airport that he thinks is a satellite TV receiver. Utter travel chaos ensues. Sounds too familiar.
My guess would be that Sussex Police do not have the depth of experience of the Met in regards to shutting down, evacuation and all that. I think it all went down about 10.55 so at 12ish they still would have been in headless chicken mode, getting folk out and resources into place, getting the chain of command sorted and working out what they dealing with. If it had been serious ( it was not in the end ) then I expect they would have closed Junction 9 of M23. You then have to consider that you have regular airport police and then bringing in extra resource from wider area who are not up to speed with the airports operations.
1. A23 goes partially under South Terminal. Any explosion could've caused a tunnel collapse. 2. They can't let cars in to the South Terminal due to the risk of a second attack. Someone could drive any old car bomb in, or just start ramming the large crowd of people standing outside. 3. They didn't "let" people block up the road. People just do it. No matter how many you tell them to move on, there's always another car just round the corner that's going to try and stop there. There's clips on twitter from that very roundabout, showing those very officers trying to move cars on, yet more kept piling up there. People just refuse to be inconvenienced. I know you wouldn't have known this at the time as well, but one of the evacuation points for the South Terminal is the drop-off/pick-up area, as far as I can tell from amateur videos. So letting in cars would've been useless, as no one would've been able to get back out anyway due to the giant crowd of people standing in the roads. The rant about the police does clearly seems to be a rant for the sake of ranting about police, rather than a rant based on anything factual or logical. Everything you said about the car park however, I completely agree with. Why on Earth they send you up to Level 4 for a pick-up I don't know.
I'd rather pay £6 to drive in, drop off and drive out again than pay nothing to sit in a queue for three hours to get in to a layby full of people parked up waiting for delayed flights to arrive. Without the charge and time restriction, that road would always look as busy as that.
Mr P decided to celebrate Dwhali for a second time ? What, no screen mounted radio card for Gatwick car parks' frequent users ? The Continentals have had radio cards for years. No wonder British ex-pats returning to this country to visit relatives can't wait to get back to civilisation. Most of the parking control systems used in this country are carp. Especially the payment units. Poor design and poorly sited. I can only think of one type that in any way is simple simon to use and reliable. Excellent video. Clearly the management and managementvconsultants employed by British Airports Authority and Gatwick and the Police (On earners of £100k + ?) haven't worked out what you spotted in half an hour. More power to your elbow.
I mean, they didn't actually "eff" up here at all, it's just LDC commenting on things he knows nothing about as if it was fact. 1. A23 goes partially under South Terminal. Any explosion could've caused a tunnel collapse. 2. They can't let cars in to the South Terminal due to the risk of a second attack. Someone could drive any old car bomb in, or just start ramming the large crowd of people standing outside. 3. They didn't "let" people block up the road. People just do it. No matter how many you tell them to move on, there's always another car just round the corner that's going to try and stop there. There's clips on twitter from that very roundabout, showing those very officers trying to move cars on, yet more kept piling up there. People just refuse to be inconvenienced.
@Perseus7567 that is exactly my reaction and it's rather sad that LDC put up a very thoughtful video previously about a woman with mental health problems but just completely over reacts here with no background info. The police do a great job with very limited resources.
@@haydensmall8826 that was due to any national emergency like lockdown from an epidemic or nuclear attack. A suspected bomb at an airport does really equate to that level of emergency!
Poor police; damned if they do, damned if they don't, but they always have to take worst case scenario. My guess is a child dropped a tidy bear unnoticed so it becomes a "bomb threat" lol 6 quid (about Au$12) just to drive in to pick someone up?! Seems about right for airports in general.
The German Police aint better. About 17 years ago there was the so called NSU murders (NS underground). At that day we planned to have a work gathering in some club. Well, 3 ppl came as the police completely locked up the whole city and questioned anyone in a car if they had seen something. I was going into the city, parked somewhere a kilometer or heck even a mile away. Went partying up until midnite or so. And until then all questioning was done. Well, the murderers escaped anyway. Or couldve been partying with me, who knows. Result: Absolutely zero. Only years after in an unrelated incident it was found out that the NS trio was also responsible. And why did the police do all of that? Because a colleague of them was also killed...
What an absolute disaster Tony. My sympathies are with you. Good job you knew what you were doing and could make some changes. Police obviously didn't!!!!! 🙄🙄🙄
I'm seriously concerned with the amount of people also failing to apply critical thinking here. Police had more of a clue than almost everyone here, judging by how few people seem to know the A23 goes UNDER the South Terminal, which puts it at risk of collapse following any explosion.
Far too often I find the police or the British workforce have closed a road and sent a diversion directly to... another closed road. The number of times I've been on the M25 and unable to use the A3 as it's shut, only to find the M3 is also shut and then no messages on the boards until the M4 - which is also shut - is unbelievable. I once ended up looping round by Oxford to get from Reigate to Basingstoke at 3am, and that's ignoring the M25 being shut for a bit, sending everyone north on the A3 (south was shut) and back out on the M3 (which was shut past the M25 so had to get back on the M25, which was down to a single lane and 20mph - at 3am!). I'm fucking sick of the whole lot of incompetent fucks. Months now I've been stuck on the M3's 50mph average limit due to a lane closed and I have never seen any work vehicles, let alone workmen - and I've driven the entire length in both directions at all times of day.
I had to take a diversion as you go into chesterfield from the east, about 3 miles later we were back where we started the diversion, so me and the car behind ignored the diversion and went the normal way, yes you guessed it nothing !` a few cones and nobody there.
@@johndilloway9762 Uses a lot of fuel to drive up to Level 4 and all the way back down again. So much for "Net Zero" and "Saving the Planet". Still, looks like all those people flying couldn't give a toss either!
@@AngusMontrose I agree, I think net zero is only for us the public though, starmer flies here there and everywhere, even has a private helicopter for flights in this country, so not leading by example, sod em.
too^ Also, the plan was followed perfectly. Amazing how few people are able to spend 3 seconds looking at the A23 on Google maps and seeing it goes under the South Terminal, therefore they have good reason to divert people away from it.
@@Perseus7567 LDC was talking about where they placed the first cop car before the roundabout, and not moving people on at the second car that was blocking the south terminal entrance.
Blimey Tony. What a palaver! I’m glad you at least know the area so you didn’t end up amongst all the carnage. It seemed that absolutely no-one knew what was going on. I would have gone dizzy driving round and round that car park. I was getting frustrated with the whole thing and I’m sitting comfortably in my living room! I hope your day goes better tomorrow! 🤗
1. A23 goes partially under South Terminal. Any explosion could've caused a tunnel collapse. 2. They can't let cars in to the South Terminal due to the risk of a second attack. Someone could drive any old car bomb in, or just start ramming the large crowd of people standing outside. 3. They didn't "let" people block up the road. People just do it. No matter how many you tell them to move on, there's always another car just round the corner that's going to try and stop there. There's clips on twitter from that very roundabout, showing those very officers trying to move cars on, yet more kept piling up there. People just refuse to be inconvenienced. There was no eff up. LDC just didn't do any research or critical thinking here.
Tony, stop listening to bogus info. There was no bomb scare……the true reason for evacuating the terminal is that they were expecting the flight arrival of the first plane made by the Audi company. They just didn’t know what to expect and wouldn’t take any chances.!!!
Just goes to show we are not prepared or organised for an incident, the police on the road haven't got a clue, makes you wonder if this was a tester to see how we react to yet another potential terror atack, stay safe and well Mr London Dash Cam. (Can't remember your name ☺)
It's Tony!! I don't think many cities are truly ready for an organized incident. Maybe the NYPD after 9/11 got a clue but those plans are over 20 years old, so I hope they have updated them. They really need drills every year...pick one and go!
@@xo2quilt totally agree Tony, we've not organised in one way or another, the chief constable should be ashamed, but then again they're not bothered on a cushy massive salary + perks, winge over☺great channel Tony followd you from the start.👍
Unfortunately, it's the big wigs in the control room who give the orders. The police officers on the front line have to follow the orders, but i do agree with your descriptions and I'll bet those front line officers thought the same as you, because they're the ones who have to clear that mess up.Another good one Tony.
@johndilloway9762 So true, they get all the bad stuff from both sides. Too many degree fast trackers who've never done the work of real policemen, and don't know what they're doing.
What if you want to pick someone up, but only have cash? It's not a legal requirement to have a cash card... Also, what if you are in or on a class of vehicle which is prohibited from travelling on a motorway?
And if it was a bomb and your family were close by but no one reacted because they said 'oh this will cause too much disruption and cost money' but the bomb goes off and kills your family - how do you feel then?
@@johncranna9427 Nobody mentioned a bomb or anything explosive. The suitcase could have been moved to a safer place and life carried on with minimal fuss. I have worked in Angola during the Civil War, been a target in Sasol 2 and 3 in South Africa amongst others. The UK is a joke nowadays, everything is a bureaucratic nightmare. As shown by todays farce.
Terrible reporting lol 1. A23 goes partially under South Terminal. Any explosion could've caused a tunnel collapse. 2. They can't let cars in to the South Terminal due to the risk of a second attack. Someone could drive any old car bomb in, or just start ramming the large crowd of people standing outside. 3. They didn't "let" people block up the road. People just do it. No matter how many you tell them to move on, there's always another car just round the corner that's going to try and stop there. There's clips on twitter from that very roundabout, showing those very officers trying to move cars on, yet more kept piling up there. People just refuse to be inconvenienced. Everything he said about the police in this video was wrong.
Useless? And what would you say had they not closed the A23, it was a real bomb, the bomb detonated, and dozens of people got trapped in the A23 tunnel right below the South Terminal? Hell, maybe even LDC got trapped down there. I bet you'd be one of the first kicking and screaming about how they should've anticipated it. Besides.. not one of the police vehicles here were traffic police, as far as I could tell. There was Armed police, and what looked like some sort of Rural Crime Team Ford Ranger. Budget cuts and a belief that Traffic Police should "focus on real crimes" has led to a lack of police trained in properly managing traffic. People only have themselves to blame for that one. Then again, even if they were there, they'd probably get called racists for daring to tell the driver of a black car where to go. Or "fascists" for telling you what to do. **Although, at the end of the video there was a National Highways Traffic Officer on scene, who should've been managing traffic, but we all know those police-rejects were incompetent anyway.
A road tunnel should not have been closed for suspicious cabin baggage as has been reported here.especially when it was confined to the airport itself.
I just just think after such a thoughtful previous video that youve really hit rock bottom here with a thoughtless video criticising the police at the very early stages of containing an incident where you have little or no appreciation of the scale of the problem. The police have in no way caused traffic. People wanting to go to the South Terminal have caused the traffic. Its also been pointed out to you by two other commenters that the A23 goes under Gatwick so thats why they had to close it off. There are NOT an endless supply of traffic officers to direct traffic and thecploice do the best they can with very restricted resources. I just dont see why you can have empathy for your passenger with the pjs and tea cosy, but you have a cheap shot at the police force!!
I do, our country have been through the utter devastation caused by years of a Labour govt, where the Police no longer serve the people, they serve politicians with the dire ideology, and yes, the coppers on the ground are just taking orders, but Hitler's vicious "police' troops said the same thing, and the govt could not be implementing their awful dictates if the Police at every level said NO. If all you can do is empathise with Police making a pig's ear of a serious situation and not someone who is actually there having to deal with that situation, then just bugger off! Nobody needs your sneering superiority complex here.
@jillga rlick2122 Oh yeah - someone who is there who actually has no concept at all of the whole situation and can only rely on news feeds to know what is happening. I think you are completely deluded to think that LDC has any superior knowledge of the situation over the police.
@@jillgarlick2122 Here Here Jill....cranna is an awful contributor to London Dash Cam channel. He will more than likely report you for cyber bullying, which is his usual tactic for most who challenge his posts.
@@suziforester cannot even spell now thecwhole saturation !!!😁 best of it is as much as he obviously hates LDC, the rest of us, and possibly the whole of mankind, every time he watches a video by LDC, LDC gets more views so gets a better chance of making money from the video, ironic really.
@@johndilloway9762is that all you're able to comment on, a predictive spelling mistake? I assume, therefore, that you must agree with all the points that I made. There are quite a few people who have commented that LDC got it all wrong about the correct need to close the A23 as it goes under the terminal. I and others are not haters. We just hold a different view and get to know the facts. His videos are entertaining, and about 80% are accurate. He just lets himself down on the other 20% and will very rarely own up to anything.
Another Brilliant video - thoroughly enjoyed it. Love all your videos we do.
Sorry mate, but the reason for them to block the A 23 is doesn't it still go under the south terminal mind you, it has been over 30 odd years since I was up there and love seeing you going through my old places stay safe, and keep producing good TH-cam
I thought I had it bad when a fire Alarm went off at Gatwick last may and there was no staff around.
Felt really bad for all the passengers. Going to be Chaos for a few days at least.
The A 23 goes unser the South Terminal !
So glad you popped up there when you did!! That gridlock will be very difficult for the additional emergency vehicles to access, and it will take hours to clear that tailback!! Lovely to have missed it!! Happy passenger willing to pay well for their ride...makes for a happy Tony!
"That gridlock will be very difficult for the additional emergency vehicles " Why would they need so many emergency vehicles of one "suspect" item in a passenger's baggage. Why didn't they shut the exit off the M23 if it was such an issue. The North terminal was fully open. Why should people with flights make their way there and people who arrived make their way out of the still open terminal. Why are the authorities so cagey about what the suspect item was?
As Jack Frost (TV cop) said "people are creatures of habit", so make any changes to the normal road route and most have no idea how to do it differently
Complacency, along distraction, patience , and stupidity seem to be cause of most dash cam incidents world wide
Sorry to say, but quoting the Independent: "At 8.20am on Friday, staff at the South Terminal discovered a “suspected prohibited item” in a passenger’s cabin baggage. By 10.55am, police had ordered a security cordon and the evacuation of the building and adjacent railway station." So no, did not just happen lol
A bit puzzled by what a “suspected prohibited item" is. Since what is prohibited is specified why was it suspect. Then two and half hours later it goes to a full on bomb scare. But at the end of the day turns out is was nothing.
Incident started about 10:15 ISH when the south terminal was evacuated. A23 was shut because it passes directly under the south terminal hence they were sending the south bound traffic up to the M23.
Ah! So there was a perfectly good reason for it to be closed, but of course, it doesn't stop LDC being so bloody judgemental!!
Language....you naughty little boy
May be I am misunderstanding the road layout but why was the road straight ahead closed off to Brighton. That would have been the M23.
OK just seen the bit where he went up to the M23. The A23 was closed so why is traffic to Brighton sign posted via the A23? I don't go to Gatwick often, except when I worked there but that was the hanger area, but the road layout does seem very confusing with the A23 going right through the middle of it.
@@suziforester Yes no need for the "bloody".
The road you were moaning about being closed was closed for a very good reason. It run's right under the South Terminal. ☺
But wasn't the point is was sign posted Brighton and Brighton would be by the M23 not A23.
@@kevinrayner5812 No, the road that was closed off runs thro Gatwick using the A23 and would bring you back onto the M23 Junction at Pease Pottage which is the last junction of the M23 before it turns back into the A23.
On the subject of using the correct lanes on a roundabout (at 10:45), have you finally realized the road markings on the Rose Hill Roundabout changed about 8 years ago?
Hi Tony...
FFS. The first 15 minutes are usually free here in Ireland if you drop off or pick up in most carparks, but £6 quid is a piss-take.
Great rant though...as usual 🤣🤣🤣
A23 f to Crawley goes under the south terminal. train station and arrivals is above. They close it every time who knows why.
Last time I was there, the r/h lane machine wasnt working, and I couldnt back up as there were 5 cars behind me by then - they had to let me out for free.
Tony theres one bomb disposal and they had a bomb at US EMBASSY in London today.
Wow. Thats some grumble, but totally deserved. So very glad it wasnt me, lol 🤣. I have actually driven to Gatwick occassionally, but not recently.
@robertbate5790 quite undeserved actually!
Way past your bed time Cranna. Now drink your ovaltine and turn in... Night night😂
Someone at work had a weekend away planned leaving Friday PM from South Terminal... they could not even catch a train to get close.
I heard stories of people having to walk to Horely. I get they want people away from the terminal but why is the only walking route actually on the busy dual carriageway.
@@kevinrayner5812 it isn't if you know but us locals like to keep it a secret... 😂
Dont forget gatwick crosses over the a23 if a bomb gos off over the road there could be some deaths.
Also, why is the drop off charge on line, but the pick charge is completely different process?
I'm guessing to ease congestion in the drop off zone.
So the incident, something found in baggage, happened at 0820 and the cordon wasn't in place until 1100 ish hours. You're driving round at 1200-1230 and police are still setting up road blocks, that's getting on for 4 hours after the suspicious item was reported according to the newspapers. Surely they practice scenarios like this and have a response time and targets they have to hit but if they're blocking roads to the S terminal 4 hours after the initial report of a suspect bomb they missed!!
Funny you mention Jeremy Beadle
His vids have popped up on my feed
They're hilarious
Me too. I never realised he had a small hand till now
Does your app allow clients to pay extra to jump the queue? Should do.
Just watched the Only Fools and Horses episode the Sky's the Limit where Delboy has accidentally bought a stolen radar dish that was nicked from Gatwick Airport that he thinks is a satellite TV receiver. Utter travel chaos ensues. Sounds too familiar.
I retired from Sussex Police 20 years ago... i was glad to walk away from it.
My guess would be that Sussex Police do not have the depth of experience of the Met in regards to shutting down, evacuation and all that. I think it all went down about 10.55 so at 12ish they still would have been in headless chicken mode, getting folk out and resources into place, getting the chain of command sorted and working out what they dealing with. If it had been serious ( it was not in the end ) then I expect they would have closed Junction 9 of M23. You then have to consider that you have regular airport police and then bringing in extra resource from wider area who are not up to speed with the airports operations.
My son who passed his test in July has bought his first car today
1. A23 goes partially under South Terminal. Any explosion could've caused a tunnel collapse.
2. They can't let cars in to the South Terminal due to the risk of a second attack. Someone could drive any old car bomb in, or just start ramming the large crowd of people standing outside.
3. They didn't "let" people block up the road. People just do it. No matter how many you tell them to move on, there's always another car just round the corner that's going to try and stop there. There's clips on twitter from that very roundabout, showing those very officers trying to move cars on, yet more kept piling up there. People just refuse to be inconvenienced.
I know you wouldn't have known this at the time as well, but one of the evacuation points for the South Terminal is the drop-off/pick-up area, as far as I can tell from amateur videos. So letting in cars would've been useless, as no one would've been able to get back out anyway due to the giant crowd of people standing in the roads.
The rant about the police does clearly seems to be a rant for the sake of ranting about police, rather than a rant based on anything factual or logical.
Everything you said about the car park however, I completely agree with. Why on Earth they send you up to Level 4 for a pick-up I don't know.
£6??? You must be joking. For those few minutes that you were in that car park it cost so much. You didn't even use a parking place. Ridiculous!
I'd rather pay £6 to drive in, drop off and drive out again than pay nothing to sit in a queue for three hours to get in to a layby full of people parked up waiting for delayed flights to arrive. Without the charge and time restriction, that road would always look as busy as that.
Lodge a Complaint with the Police !
It did only happen at lunch time!
We should give you permanent observer status on the ministry board.
Mr P decided to celebrate Dwhali for a second time ?
What, no screen mounted radio card for Gatwick car parks' frequent users ? The Continentals have had radio cards for years. No wonder British ex-pats returning to this country to visit relatives can't wait to get back to civilisation.
Most of the parking control systems used in this country are carp. Especially the payment units. Poor design and poorly sited. I can only think of one type that in any way is simple simon to use and reliable.
Excellent video. Clearly the management and managementvconsultants employed by British Airports Authority and Gatwick and the Police (On earners of £100k + ?) haven't worked out what you spotted in half an hour. More power to your elbow.
I can't walk so I would have been royally screwed. Would have to had sat on the curb somewhere and waited it out.
Be careful Tony, the bill won't like you criticising their eff ups! It could be construed as 'hate crime'!
I mean, they didn't actually "eff" up here at all, it's just LDC commenting on things he knows nothing about as if it was fact.
1. A23 goes partially under South Terminal. Any explosion could've caused a tunnel collapse.
2. They can't let cars in to the South Terminal due to the risk of a second attack. Someone could drive any old car bomb in, or just start ramming the large crowd of people standing outside.
3. They didn't "let" people block up the road. People just do it. No matter how many you tell them to move on, there's always another car just round the corner that's going to try and stop there. There's clips on twitter from that very roundabout, showing those very officers trying to move cars on, yet more kept piling up there. People just refuse to be inconvenienced.
Get more time inside than the bombers
@Perseus7567 that is exactly my reaction and it's rather sad that LDC put up a very thoughtful video previously about a woman with mental health problems but just completely over reacts here with no background info. The police do a great job with very limited resources.
Cranna, "Your reaction"....you really do think you're interesting don't you 😂😂😂😂
@@suziforester mental health problems 😁
It's called 'kettling'.
What a nightmare & thanks for sharing Tony The London Dash Cam 🚕😊👍
Wasn’t this sort of thing supposed to be the exact reason why we had the emergency thing on all our phones two years ago 😂😂😂😂😂
Yes what happened to that?
@@haydensmall8826 that was due to any national emergency like lockdown from an epidemic or nuclear attack. A suspected bomb at an airport does really equate to that level of emergency!
17:07 I getting dizzy!!!
Poor police; damned if they do, damned if they don't, but they always have to take worst case scenario. My guess is a child dropped a tidy bear unnoticed so it becomes a "bomb threat" lol
6 quid (about Au$12) just to drive in to pick someone up?! Seems about right for airports in general.
The money is not worth it, I would have just gone back home.
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The German Police aint better. About 17 years ago there was the so called NSU murders (NS underground). At that day we planned to have a work gathering in some club. Well, 3 ppl came as the police completely locked up the whole city and questioned anyone in a car if they had seen something. I was going into the city, parked somewhere a kilometer or heck even a mile away. Went partying up until midnite or so. And until then all questioning was done.
Well, the murderers escaped anyway. Or couldve been partying with me, who knows. Result: Absolutely zero. Only years after in an unrelated incident it was found out that the NS trio was also responsible.
And why did the police do all of that? Because a colleague of them was also killed...
There were told by the police and ncp workers that people have to walk to there car parks
What an absolute disaster Tony. My sympathies are with you. Good job you knew what you were doing and could make some changes. Police obviously didn't!!!!! 🙄🙄🙄
I'm seriously concerned with the amount of people also failing to apply critical thinking here.
Police had more of a clue than almost everyone here, judging by how few people seem to know the A23 goes UNDER the South Terminal, which puts it at risk of collapse following any explosion.
@@Perseus7567
You're " Seriously concerned"...???
You really need a hobby😂
If they sent all the traffic up to the M23 what did any Non motorway traffic do ? L plate drivers, 50cc riders ETC ETC ?.
Police are so shit these days I love your videos Tony and I will continue to support you and cry for you 😁
Far too often I find the police or the British workforce have closed a road and sent a diversion directly to... another closed road. The number of times I've been on the M25 and unable to use the A3 as it's shut, only to find the M3 is also shut and then no messages on the boards until the M4 - which is also shut - is unbelievable. I once ended up looping round by Oxford to get from Reigate to Basingstoke at 3am, and that's ignoring the M25 being shut for a bit, sending everyone north on the A3 (south was shut) and back out on the M3 (which was shut past the M25 so had to get back on the M25, which was down to a single lane and 20mph - at 3am!). I'm fucking sick of the whole lot of incompetent fucks. Months now I've been stuck on the M3's 50mph average limit due to a lane closed and I have never seen any work vehicles, let alone workmen - and I've driven the entire length in both directions at all times of day.
I had to take a diversion as you go into chesterfield from the east, about 3 miles later we were back where we started the diversion, so me and the car behind ignored the diversion and went the normal way, yes you guessed it nothing !` a few cones and nobody there.
it was a total foot-up
I thought you wanted to go to Gatwick to make some money but then get all upset when you are directed off th A23 towards the airport 😂
Can I ask a stupid? question, why was the customer at the airport on level 4,did he have to walk up there?
That is the pick up point, totally stupid it could be on ground level
@@johndilloway9762 Uses a lot of fuel to drive up to Level 4 and all the way back down again. So much for "Net Zero" and "Saving the Planet". Still, looks like all those people flying couldn't give a toss either!
@@AngusMontrose I agree, I think net zero is only for us the public though, starmer flies here there and everywhere, even has a private helicopter for flights in this country, so not leading by example, sod em.
they are supposed to have set plans for incidents, they just pull out the plan and follow it. must be to hard for them to work out how to do that.
too^
Also, the plan was followed perfectly. Amazing how few people are able to spend 3 seconds looking at the A23 on Google maps and seeing it goes under the South Terminal, therefore they have good reason to divert people away from it.
@@Perseus7567 LDC was talking about where they placed the first cop car before the roundabout, and not moving people on at the second car that was blocking the south terminal entrance.
@@johndilloway9762
Perseus is another hater...also a sock puppet account...bogus
I don't understand why you blaming police. They know what they doing... they been told to stop everything...😂
Quite right.
Go on cranna.. pile on😂😂😂😂
What a bum fight
First comment. And view.
Blimey Tony. What a palaver! I’m glad you at least know the area so you didn’t end up amongst all the carnage. It seemed that absolutely no-one knew what was going on. I would have gone dizzy driving round and round that car park. I was getting frustrated with the whole thing and I’m sitting comfortably in my living room! I hope your day goes better tomorrow! 🤗
A 9 year old schoolgirl calls a classmate a re***d and the police are all over it with their rapid response "non crime hate incident" task force.
Well it is west Sussex police in fact Crawley police so what do you expect, the police f*** up doesn't surprise me I live in west Sussex 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Do you remember the drone incident that that they couldn't find and it was even suggested the drone didn't even exist.
1. A23 goes partially under South Terminal. Any explosion could've caused a tunnel collapse.
2. They can't let cars in to the South Terminal due to the risk of a second attack. Someone could drive any old car bomb in, or just start ramming the large crowd of people standing outside.
3. They didn't "let" people block up the road. People just do it. No matter how many you tell them to move on, there's always another car just round the corner that's going to try and stop there. There's clips on twitter from that very roundabout, showing those very officers trying to move cars on, yet more kept piling up there. People just refuse to be inconvenienced.
There was no eff up. LDC just didn't do any research or critical thinking here.
@kevinrayner5812 no I don't recall
@Perseus7567 I know were the A23 goes and I know about Gatwick airport I used to work there
@@ritchieblackmore5204
Perseus has got it real bad...another channel hater😂
UNDER AN HOUR GANGUH
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Tony, stop listening to bogus info. There was no bomb scare……the true reason for evacuating the terminal is that they were expecting the flight arrival of the first plane made by the Audi company. They just didn’t know what to expect and wouldn’t take any chances.!!!
Just goes to show we are not prepared or organised for an incident, the police on the road haven't got a clue, makes you wonder if this was a tester to see how we react to yet another potential terror atack, stay safe and well Mr London Dash Cam. (Can't remember your name ☺)
It's Tony
It's Tony!! I don't think many cities are truly ready for an organized incident. Maybe the NYPD after 9/11 got a clue but those plans are over 20 years old, so I hope they have updated them. They really need drills every year...pick one and go!
@@xo2quilt totally agree Tony, we've not organised in one way or another, the chief constable should be ashamed, but then again they're not bothered on a cushy massive salary + perks, winge over☺great channel Tony followd you from the start.👍
Unfortunately, it's the big wigs in the control room who give the orders. The police officers on the front line have to follow the orders, but i do agree with your descriptions and I'll bet those front line officers thought the same as you, because they're the ones who have to clear that mess up.Another good one Tony.
And get all the flack instead of the idiots giving the orders who do not know what they are doing.
@johndilloway9762 So true, they get all the bad stuff from both sides. Too many degree fast trackers who've never done the work of real policemen, and don't know what they're doing.
What if you want to pick someone up, but only have cash? It's not a legal requirement to have a cash card...
Also, what if you are in or on a class of vehicle which is prohibited from travelling on a motorway?
Keystone cops , ive seen better policing on trumpton
And you know better do you?
Michael Saunders...this fella cranna is barking.....he'll be in bed soon, hopefully😂😂😂
Hours of utter chaos and millions of £ wasted because of ONE dodgy item in ONE suitcase found. I live in despair of what this country has become.
And if it was a bomb and your family were close by but no one reacted because they said 'oh this will cause too much disruption and cost money' but the bomb goes off and kills your family - how do you feel then?
@@johncranna9427 Nobody mentioned a bomb or anything explosive. The suitcase could have been moved to a safer place and life carried on with minimal fuss. I have worked in Angola during the Civil War, been a target in Sasol 2 and 3 in South Africa amongst others. The UK is a joke nowadays, everything is a bureaucratic nightmare. As shown by todays farce.
Ooooo...you are so positive. Your life must be wonderful😂
@@johncranna9427 Do we know whet the "suspicious" item actually was?
@@kevinrayner5812
John Cranna will definitely know...he is the font of all knowledge😂😂😂
Utter shambles. You'd think they'd have had a cast iron set piece in place for such an eventuality. Good reporting.
Terrible reporting lol
1. A23 goes partially under South Terminal. Any explosion could've caused a tunnel collapse.
2. They can't let cars in to the South Terminal due to the risk of a second attack. Someone could drive any old car bomb in, or just start ramming the large crowd of people standing outside.
3. They didn't "let" people block up the road. People just do it. No matter how many you tell them to move on, there's always another car just round the corner that's going to try and stop there. There's clips on twitter from that very roundabout, showing those very officers trying to move cars on, yet more kept piling up there. People just refuse to be inconvenienced.
Everything he said about the police in this video was wrong.
@@Perseus7567
Time for bed fella
Wonder our useless traffic police didn't close the M25.
Useless?
And what would you say had they not closed the A23, it was a real bomb, the bomb detonated, and dozens of people got trapped in the A23 tunnel right below the South Terminal? Hell, maybe even LDC got trapped down there. I bet you'd be one of the first kicking and screaming about how they should've anticipated it.
Besides.. not one of the police vehicles here were traffic police, as far as I could tell. There was Armed police, and what looked like some sort of Rural Crime Team Ford Ranger.
Budget cuts and a belief that Traffic Police should "focus on real crimes" has led to a lack of police trained in properly managing traffic. People only have themselves to blame for that one.
Then again, even if they were there, they'd probably get called racists for daring to tell the driver of a black car where to go. Or "fascists" for telling you what to do.
**Although, at the end of the video there was a National Highways Traffic Officer on scene, who should've been managing traffic, but we all know those police-rejects were incompetent anyway.
Well.....after another BS outburst frim Perseus, it seems clear he is a sick puppet of @Cranna or @AndrewWhite...or one of the other hate watchers
A road tunnel should not have been closed for suspicious cabin baggage as has been reported here.especially when it was confined to the airport itself.
@@jonathanlake6053
This Perseus fella has got a real problem😂
I just just think after such a thoughtful previous video that youve really hit rock bottom here with a thoughtless video criticising the police at the very early stages of containing an incident where you have little or no appreciation of the scale of the problem. The police have in no way caused traffic. People wanting to go to the South Terminal have caused the traffic. Its also been pointed out to you by two other commenters that the A23 goes under Gatwick so thats why they had to close it off. There are NOT an endless supply of traffic officers to direct traffic and thecploice do the best they can with very restricted resources.
I just dont see why you can have empathy for your passenger with the pjs and tea cosy, but you have a cheap shot at the police force!!
I do, our country have been through the utter devastation caused by years of a Labour govt, where the Police no longer serve the people, they serve politicians with the dire ideology, and yes, the coppers on the ground are just taking orders, but Hitler's vicious "police' troops said the same thing, and the govt could not be implementing their awful dictates if the Police at every level said NO. If all you can do is empathise with Police making a pig's ear of a serious situation and not someone who is actually there having to deal with that situation, then just bugger off! Nobody needs your sneering superiority complex here.
@jillga rlick2122 Oh yeah - someone who is there who actually has no concept at all of the whole situation and can only rely on news feeds to know what is happening. I think you are completely deluded to think that LDC has any superior knowledge of the situation over the police.
@@jillgarlick2122
Here Here Jill....cranna is an awful contributor to London Dash Cam channel. He will more than likely report you for cyber bullying, which is his usual tactic for most who challenge his posts.
@@suziforester cannot even spell now thecwhole saturation !!!😁 best of it is as much as he obviously hates LDC, the rest of us, and possibly the whole of mankind, every time he watches a video by LDC, LDC gets more views so gets a better chance of making money from the video, ironic really.
@@johndilloway9762is that all you're able to comment on, a predictive spelling mistake? I assume, therefore, that you must agree with all the points that I made. There are quite a few people who have commented that LDC got it all wrong about the correct need to close the A23 as it goes under the terminal.
I and others are not haters. We just hold a different view and get to know the facts. His videos are entertaining, and about 80% are accurate. He just lets himself down on the other 20% and will very rarely own up to anything.
pC plod